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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Vinnie.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey Vinnie, It's Brendan.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Brendan Brown. How are you my man?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Do you get this every time you get on the
phone with somebody, do they just start going, I'm just
a teamy?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I love it, man.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I remember exactly where I was the first time I
heard the song.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Where was that?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I was in a hotel room in Canada. It
was two thousand.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It was the year that it came out, and I
want to say MTV was still playing videos, although I
don't necessarily remember the video for Teenage dirt Bag, and
I knew. I'm like, oh, this this song is going
to be hot. I love the Iron Maiden too, listen
to because I was a big Iron Maiden fan. H
(00:49):
Is it just a great tune. It's great to have
you on the band is Weedest. We're getting you guys
in town here at the space Ballroom, which is a
great room here in Hampden at the end of the
mornth But I wanted to add, as you, uh do you?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You had to see?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean, it became a big trend on TikTok, like
drop this song?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
What did you think when that happened?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I you know, I'm always skeptical because you know, I'm
fifty one years old and we've been around for a while,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but I started really
enjoying it when I took a look at some of
these pictures of somebody like had posted a picture of
themselves like cuffed on the hood of a cop car. Yeah,
I thought that was pretty rad. And then there was
(01:31):
like as it got bigger and bigger, there was like
more and more notable celebrities coming in, and I was like, wow,
this is weird that these people even know our music.
And then it was like, okay, here's Little nase X,
Here's Madonna, you know, here's Cheech and Chong. And then
and then the one that really like made me stop
and sit down was Quincy Jones doing one and that I.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Didn't even know about. What did he do?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
He clearly he just had it playing under him while
he was doing.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What Pictures of himself playing with rachels and like all
like like crazy like old cool jazz, you know, like
real golden era jazz pictures and stuff of him as
a young producer and like with Michael and like I mean,
just like I mean, I just I just had to
sit out. I was like, I can't, I can't believe.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, you know, it's it's interesting too because at the
time two thousand, it's like it's this novelty song.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know, it's it's teenage dirt bag. You know, who
are these guys?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, yeah, we get a long Island man.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That's exactly right, because I interviewed you guys actually at
the time. I don't know if you were coming through
maybe playing Toad's Place at the time.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh yeah with.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Six Oh, I actually love them too. But it's interesting
to look back. The song was fun to me then
and like I said, I love the Iron, but you
look back now and what people were doing with it.
On TikTok, it's an interesting thing with the lyrics because
our protagonist is saying, look, I know I'm someone you
(02:59):
would waste waste time with, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
There was like this self deprecation, and I think people
were just digging on that. Twenty five years later, they're
getting like, look, i know I'm nothing special, but you know.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, and some time the variety of experience that people
were willing to share, like all through like I mean,
the only thing the song really has going for it
truly is the way people see themselves in the narrative,
Like you said, like they can become the protagonist, that
can be their song. Yeah, they can be their story,
you know. And you know, whatever I meant back in
(03:36):
like ninety five when I was writing it doesn't really
matter that much. It's more important what people see, how
people see themselves in it, what their version of it is.
So that's that's been the life of the song. And
that's like we're really really lucky. I mean we're the
luckiest like schloves from Long Island, seriously.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But you're also the guy singing it, and you know,
singing it in your late twenties is one thing. At
fifty one, are you pulling off the angels?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Man?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I actually am still doing it. I don't know how.
In fact, because the crowds have gotten so loud on
that part, I can't really hear myself. I've taken to
going up a higher harmony, up above the original pitch.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So it's like, I mean, again, pure luck, you know,
just not I don't drink, I don't smoke, Like I'm
one of these like sort of boring guys, you know,
like you know, drink some water and goes to bed
at the end of the night. I think so, I
think that I think that helps the occasional like ego
boost from people like Ed Sheeran is kind of cool
(04:44):
and good Charlotte and people who like invite me up
to play it just because they want it in their
set randomly. It's all really cool and I still enjoy
singing this song. It hasn't gotten old. You know, a
lot of bands from our time their song that the
big songs didn't really represent them completely, and Teenage Shirtbeg
does represent us in a good way. Like I wrote it,
(05:07):
I produced it, you know all that, so it feels
good to play. It doesn't feel like we're trying to
be somebody else, and I just we're lucky luck Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, absolutely that. It had the legs that deservedly so too.
I'll tell you I love the whole record though. Truffles
was a great kickoff track. You know, it's set the
tone perfectly.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I was.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
The tone of nineteen eighties Catholic boys school trash talk.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah yeah, no, but it was.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You know, it let me know who the band was
before I even got you know. I mean, I heard
teenage dirt bag first, like I said, in a hotel
room in Canada, I don't even know what the how
I wound up in Canada. Those were gravy days for me.
I was doing top forty radio at the time and
getting paid in amount of money nobody should be getting
paid for.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Doing glory days, I remember, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, and those are long over, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
So I would go on these little jaunts and I
actually you know why, and I thought, I'm like, oh,
this must be a Canadian band, which at the time
we had a lot of you know, we had our
Lady Piece, we had a couple, you know, a lot
was coming out of Canada.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But then I went.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Band yeah, and Tragically Hip one of my favorites. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But if I had just grabbed the CD and just
you know, popped it in and heard Truffles, I would
have known exactly, you know, it's set the tone, like
I said, I would have known exactly what I was
going to get. And you know, a lot of the
bands of your era too great, follow great soft, no
sophomore slumps to be at well, I guess they were
because they didn't get their due. But you had a
(06:41):
good follow up record. To that too that I remembered getting.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, Handover Your loved Ones was the second one we
still to this day as week of a delivery as
it got from the label. I mean, no videos, no nothing,
you know, no radio promo. We still have in our
top ten the song Lemonade from that record. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And there was another one with a really funny It
had a really long title.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'm an American in Amsterdam. You mean that one or no,
you mean the song that I wrote when you get
the song that I.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Wrote when you dissed me. It was a great tune, man.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And I just remember there was a I don't know
if you were. There was a band named Ludo at
that time. There was an American high five demone, you
know there was. There was great rock happening at that time.
But you're right, we would latch onto this one song.
It would get the top forty. But I just remember
the sophomore. The second records were just as good, if
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not better, more often than not. But I think that
was the turning point when fans just started moving on
much more quickly. That I'm a child of the eighties,
They're not far behind me. I'm fifty eight years old.
We got a record from our favorite band every year,
if not every other year. When I was it, we
didn't move on from them. In the early two thousands, millennials, dear,
(08:01):
I say, they move on, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, great, we moved on quick. You know, you have
to also remember that, like our first record came out,
then September eleventh happened, humongous change in attitude and see
and then after that was our second album, and it
was like it was almost like the world that we
started making music and didn't exist anymore, you know, it
was it was a big tea change, and you know,
(08:25):
it was difficult to adjust, and I think rightly, so
you saw some more like introspective, dark, deeper stuff cut
rise to the surface like the inner Pole, and like
like early two thousands indie rock was kind of like
you know, acknowledging that change. And for I guess better
lack of a better term, like pop punk or power
pop rock bands from the nineties. It was like a
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weird adjustment. It was like, oh my god, like you know,
what do we even say now? I remember my music
feeling like relatively frivolous in light of all of that
suffering and tragedy. So it was kind of like, yeah,
you know, we got to figure some we've got to
retool it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
No hooks are there, though, but you had the hooks man,
you're a hook master.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well that.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I've always liked pop music. You know. My first job ever,
I worked in a fish market, you know, in Huntington,
Long Island, and they had the KJOI on twenty four
to seven and all of those humongous you know, pop choruses,
those big songs. They shaped the way I write stuff
(09:25):
without me, I mean, and I would go home and
listen to Metallica, right but yeah, but and what I made? Yeah,
but I was inundated all day with this like kjoy,
like hits from Whitney Houston and Luther Vandros and the
big radio songs from the eighties and seventies.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
The guy who wrote Teenage dirt Bag was listening to
Whitney Houston at work.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Have you? Of course?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Who who saw that coming? You know?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I wanted to say to you though, too so interesting.
You're right that tour that I first interviewed, well, I
don't know if it was you, I could have gotten
a drummer or a bassist, you know. I came up
covering the bands who came through town on the newspaper
first before I landed on the radio. I was even
writing for like Circus and Hip Parader, and yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Like, I had some you know, some great cover stories.
Who were they?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
The Toadies? I did the Toadies. I got Vruca Salt,
who I think is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Great band. Yeah, great, great bands.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And uh, it's interesting that you would say Eve six
because to my point to you, I think your stuff
only gets better. Eve six is actually a band. Look,
that was a great song. I want to put my
Tender Horror in a blender. We played that crazy when
I got the top forty. Their subsequent releases were far
better than that, and that was a great That was
(10:45):
a great record.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Inside Out.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, with inside Out they just keep and they're
still putting out great music.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah. Their second record, Horoscope, that was the one. That
record is is wal to wall Bangers. I don't think
people understand that that there's there's no bad song, no
skips on that record. It's crazy good. Yes, yeah, I
mean that's one of my favorites of the era.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Horoscope.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's like, you know, I agree, but.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's why I was surprised when I went and did,
because I knew, I'm like Weeds. I got their first
two records, and then I thought I was going to
see you all this stuff. Miss you guys really only
a hint. You've only put out a handful of records.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, I think we have approximately seven on release. We're
working on our seventh studio record right now, but we
have like seven albums work. I think there's about eighty
songs streaming right now. We did our third record in
two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, I'm looking I did have too soon Monsoon I
had that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, that was the one. I think that was where
we kind of retooled and got back to like the
more seventies rock stuff that I had grown up listening
to a CDC and like pretty deep purple and like
that kind of those tones, you know, fascinated me as
a kid. So and you know, as making our first
two records, I was too much of an amateur to
(12:01):
try and capture that kind of palette, you know, like
didn't know how to get that s those sounds on record.
But we went for it on a third one. But
you know, it's it's it's still to this day that
the record that gets the most songs called when We
Do Our All Requests, that is the third one.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah. Uh, that's interesting to hear. Yeah, looking it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So it's the twenty fifth anniversary too. I should mention that,
because good lord, it was twenty five years ago. I
was living it up in Canada, Brenda Thath, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Gotta let go of that.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, and we're getting you here at a great Saturday
night show August thirtieth, you know, wrap up the summer
here at the space Ballroom.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
But let me ask you, thus.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Far on the shows, are you getting all sorts of
crazy talent like half your age and they want to
they turn they turned their back to you while you're
singing teenage stirbag and they filmed their little clips for TikTok.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You must be no, no, we have we have. First
of all, it's all it's still all ages. Is really
actually happening at our shows. There's families there. There's like
ten year old and then mom and dad are there,
and then like the teenage sister is there and it's
like this whole like family event and it's a sing along.
We don't get a lot of camera stuff. I mean,
(13:15):
I do some selfies after the fact, you know, just
like but but but we don't. We don't get a
lot of that. We get a lot of people just
kind of wanting to sing it. And you know, like
we were talking about earlier, it's their song now right
like it doesn't even belong to us anymore. It's their
music and we have to just we're just there to
deliver it, right like, that's it. So, yeah, we have
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a we have we again. The luck factor is incredible
with the kind of people who who still care about us. Yeah, crazy, Yeah,
I can't get over it.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
But you learned it, man, And I know you had
some success with some covers too, from Erasures a little respect.
You did some Pat Benatar some does that find its
way onto the set list and we kind.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Of absolutely all the time. Yeah, I love playing Pat Banatar.
She's one of the greatest singers and and also Neil,
her partner, just the guitar playing, it's just sick.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
One of the most underappreciated guitarists in rock and roll
truly is Neil Giraldo. Yeah, without without a doubt, was
I wildly intimidated The one time that I interviewed him,
and I kind of don't get that way because they've
been doing it for so long. There's only a handful
of times I was kind of like and and you know,
I was like that old Chris Farley sctch sketch.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I'm like, and remember the time, remember the time you
were playing the guitar. It was just like humiliated myself.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But I would be like that too. Yeah, you know
that's royalty, Like you can't even look at them.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's gonna be great stuff. I
can't wait for the show.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's Weedst Saturday night, August thirtieth at the Space. Brendan
Brown lead vocals. Thanks for coming on, and I really am.
I'm looking forward to the show. I'll be there with
my two kids, so hopefully welcome. Hopefully we'll get to
hang out for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, I appreciate it. Thanks for having us on and
thanks for paying attention to our music. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Thanks you man. All right, we'll see you soon later