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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Sarah. Do we have you?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, Well welcome, No, thanks for calling in. I thought
I lost you a few days ago. Began our correspondence,
I believe on Sunday, Sunday or Monday, and then I
lost you for a little bit. So I was glad
to hear from you yesterday. And I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh, thank you for having me so glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So, Sarah is someone I befriended on Twitter, if you
will on ex while I'm trying to cover I'm trying
to help everything that's going on Free Iran. But I
don't know your You know, we came to meet each
other in a very strange way, you know. I reached
(00:46):
out to you. I saw that you would like a
couple of things that I posted. Are you you're born
in Iran? Do you still live there or did you
move away? What's your pastor Please no.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm not born there. So yeah, you and me got
connected on X and I'm very happy about that, and
thank you for everything you're posting in support of the
people of Iran. It's much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm born and raised in Sweden. Actually I've never been
to Iran. My parents are from Iran, so they fled
during after their revolution, they were imprisoned by the Iranian
regime and they were able to flee fortunately, so they
came to Sweden and that's how I ended up here.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You don't sound Swedish at all, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I know a lot of people say that. I think
it's because we love from Sweden and watched a lot
of American shows and movies, so I think we adapted
accents well.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well. Plus your mother and father obviously didn't sound Swedish
at all, and so around the house that you're raised in,
so you were You did make your way to Brussels
on Saturday, though.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Exactly I came. I just came back actually from the
Brussels Slee Iran rally. It was, at least to say,
it was incredibly energizing to be there. I was surrounded
by different people from different backgrounds, different ages, countries, cultures.
It was just incredible to be amongst such an amazing gathering.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, and I mean, looking at the photos, the crowd
is extraordinary. The speakers did a fantastic job. Do you
think that momentum can be sustained?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, of course, we have had a lot of rallies
and this magnitude, but this was very special considering what
time Iran is right now with the political stance and
how the people of Iran are reaping up and geting
know to o quession, So I think absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, you know, I've been posting a lot for a
while now, Sarah, I don't know when you started noticing
my post, and I've got nothing but support and thanks
and appreciation, and that's all well and good. But it
was only until very recently. I don't know who I
had on or maybe it's just the momentum you and
(03:07):
I are talking about right now, But I've only just
recently started getting a few and I don't know if
they're just the regime, you know, they're just terrorists playing
ordinary citizens. But only recently I've started getting some Rajavi
anti mek stuff, be on the right side, started getting
(03:31):
some aggressive tweets just recently. What can you tell me
about that?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, that's unfortunately not a new phenomenon. We could see
that with everyone from politicians to former like Olympus medalists
that supports us, like literally everyone who supports this cause
with this human rights, yet unfortunately targeted by the Irane
(03:56):
regime and the Fiber army, and yeah, they they just
get scrutinized online and it's the heart renting and it's horrible.
But that's I could give you this much advice you
could see, is that that you're making some you're doing
something well because if you know, you hit where there
was where it hurts the regime most is you're doing
(04:18):
something good.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well. I mean, I appreciate that, and you're probably right.
One interesting thing that I got hit with was about
Emmy k and American blood on their hands from nineteen
seventy three. So I went and I looked up that
story and it was it was interesting for a guy
like me, who you know, I was fourteen years old.
(04:41):
I don't know your age. Judging from your picture, i'm
considerably oh well, and you're quite lovely. But I knew
I had quite a few years on you. But I
was fourteen. I was fourteen years old when the hostage
crisis took place here in America, So I know I
knew of Roan what I did, only up until recently
(05:04):
when I started realizing, you know, the Iranian people themselves,
they're being executed on a daily basis, artists and you know,
regular citizens. This regime has been horrific, you know, my
entire life. So when this person said, you know, there's
some American blood on their hands, I looked at that
(05:24):
story from nineteen seventy three and it was interesting to
see the evolution of m K and how there was
a time when they were armed, but it was not
long after the hostage crisis that they became There was
a transition and they laid down their arms, became a
political movement, and Rejavi came along as part of that
(05:47):
long afterwards.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Exactly precisely. That's the narrative that the urinary regime wants
to twist that the MK had innocent people, not just
America and innocent people and overawe blood on their hands,
and that's just completely false. It just goes against everything
the core foundation and the core values of the MEK
(06:10):
and the movement as it holds. There's never been any
civil casualties that the MAK have occurred. And during that time,
during the hostage crisis, the Iranian, like the fundamentalist the
how Komani came and he basically took this revolution, hosted
and tricked people and made people the Iranian people do
(06:34):
stuff that they normally maybe wouldn't do. But the hostage
situation was plainly one hundred percent the Uranian regime and
their fundamentalists behind it. And as you can see today,
the ones praising it is the people within the Uranian
regime who takes the full accent and full responsibility for it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And is that why ultimately the MK decided, all right,
we've got to be unarmed at this point, which I
think was around nineteen eighty three, because we're struggling against
a government where we're under the rule of the Shah
and we don't want this, but we're just being you know,
positioned as yet another terrorist organization. So let's lay down
(07:18):
our arms and they you know, they can't call us
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, I wasn't around at that time, so I really
can't answer that question as to the fullest, but I
would assume that they m kate for the first never
wants they as you can see now that what Mayam
Rajavi presents is the Iran third option was basically says
no to war and no to appeasement and just or
(07:42):
supports the people of Iran and they're organized resistance, so
it all turns back to the powers to be in
the hands of the people. So I feel like to
really make a commit a true change in society, you
have to do it from the ground up. And that
could never happened through war and guns and violence. That
(08:03):
could only happen from really taking this rooted evil regime
from the boots and really talking it and burning it away.
That is the only way with each like real truth
freedom in Iran and the Middle East as well.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Ay, even there, Sarah, and again we'ron with my new
friend Sarah from Sweden, parents born in Iran, and we're
talking about this event in Brussels, Mike Penn's former vice
president speaking God at Mariam Rajavi speaking God to so
many great speeches given. You know, it was only two
months ago or so when you know, as I continued
(08:41):
my coverage in this, I still thought a diplomatic solution
was possible. I'm now coming. I came to the realization
only within the last month or so. Now for them
to be ousted, they've got to be physically removed, and
that's going to necessity a very real uprising exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And you're not the only one that was thinking like that.
Just a few months ago. So I feel like the
whole world is starting to wake up and to really
see what's the core and true problem in the Middle East,
And eventually the world is and it is the fundamental
terrorist regime in Iran that is pulling the swings in
the Middle East, that is making Middle East this horrible hellhole,
(09:24):
which it doesn't have to be. With the right hole
and the right forces, we can strive for a better
future for all.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's well said, Sara. Let me ask you this, your
mother and father, you still have family back in Iran.
I would imagine your parents must have friends still there.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, we have actually a lot of our family live
in Iran. Unfortunately, not all was so lucky that my
as my parents who was able to make it out.
But we have a family there, and of course they're
under oppression and a repression from the regime. And yeah,
it is hard to speak and have open communication with
(10:02):
our family because they're always under constant surveillance from the regime.
So yeah, it's very hard to be able to speak
to them in their way and the manner that you
would want to.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, you know, my heart goes out to you. Early
on in our little interview here are exchange. You said, no,
you know my parents are from Iran. I'm born and
raised in Sweden and I've never even been to Iran.
And you've got family there, family you've never been able
to meet because you can't go there. What a horror,
(10:35):
you know, as an American, I can't even wrap my
head around that exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And the regime is basically holding them hostage as well.
They don't have all the resources that they're not free.
My cousins can travel freely to another country. A woman
in Iran, she can't travel without her male guardians approval.
And if her male guardian her father or husband is
not present, it's her younger brother. So basically, a six
(11:03):
year old is a legal custody, a custodian over my
thirty year old cousin. It's just crazy. That is crazy,
crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Are you saying you have one too, a thirty year
old cousin someone who would like to come and visit
you and has to get permission.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
We do have a lot of family that would want
to come and visit us, but it's not possible. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, this is this is a long time coming, and
I'd like to stay in touch with you as we
continue to Yeah, and I hope the momentum, you know,
can be sustained. I'd like to think that it will be.
And let's stay in touch online, and thanks so much
for taking the time today. Prayers for your family. I'm
so sorry that I can't even imagine having relatives you'd
(11:51):
like to meet, you'd like to you know, sit down
with in person, and not being able to. So prayers
for them, and let's stay in time.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, thank you so much. Of course we will and
absolutely in again. Thank you so much for supporting our cause.
And freedom will and is near and soon we will
hopefully see each other in Tehran and a huge party,
a party of freedom.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Maybe you and I will meet in person one day ourselves, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We will, we will. We can definitely space online, but
we will.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I love the optimism, and we'll talk again soon. Thanks
so much again for your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Thank you Minnie for having me have us such a
good day
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You too, sir,
Hi, Sarah. Do we have you?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, Well welcome, No, thanks for calling in. I thought
I lost you a few days ago. Began our correspondence,
I believe on Sunday, Sunday or Monday, and then I
lost you for a little bit. So I was glad
to hear from you yesterday. And I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh, thank you for having me so glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So, Sarah is someone I befriended on Twitter, if you
will on ex while I'm trying to cover I'm trying
to help everything that's going on Free Iran. But I
don't know your You know, we came to meet each
other in a very strange way, you know. I reached
(00:46):
out to you. I saw that you would like a
couple of things that I posted. Are you you're born
in Iran? Do you still live there or did you
move away? What's your pastor Please no.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm not born there. So yeah, you and me got
connected on X and I'm very happy about that, and
thank you for everything you're posting in support of the
people of Iran. It's much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm born and raised in Sweden. Actually I've never been
to Iran. My parents are from Iran, so they fled
during after their revolution, they were imprisoned by the Iranian
regime and they were able to flee fortunately, so they
came to Sweden and that's how I ended up here.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You don't sound Swedish at all, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I know a lot of people say that. I think
it's because we love from Sweden and watched a lot
of American shows and movies, so I think we adapted
accents well.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well. Plus your mother and father obviously didn't sound Swedish
at all, and so around the house that you're raised in,
so you were You did make your way to Brussels
on Saturday, though.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Exactly I came. I just came back actually from the
Brussels Slee Iran rally. It was, at least to say,
it was incredibly energizing to be there. I was surrounded
by different people from different backgrounds, different ages, countries, cultures.
It was just incredible to be amongst such an amazing gathering.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, and I mean, looking at the photos, the crowd
is extraordinary. The speakers did a fantastic job. Do you
think that momentum can be sustained?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, of course, we have had a lot of rallies
and this magnitude, but this was very special considering what
time Iran is right now with the political stance and
how the people of Iran are reaping up and geting
know to o quession, So I think absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, you know, I've been posting a lot for a
while now, Sarah, I don't know when you started noticing
my post, and I've got nothing but support and thanks
and appreciation, and that's all well and good. But it
was only until very recently. I don't know who I
had on or maybe it's just the momentum you and
(03:07):
I are talking about right now, But I've only just
recently started getting a few and I don't know if
they're just the regime, you know, they're just terrorists playing
ordinary citizens. But only recently I've started getting some Rajavi
anti mek stuff, be on the right side, started getting
(03:31):
some aggressive tweets just recently. What can you tell me
about that?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, that's unfortunately not a new phenomenon. We could see
that with everyone from politicians to former like Olympus medalists
that supports us, like literally everyone who supports this cause
with this human rights, yet unfortunately targeted by the Irane
(03:56):
regime and the Fiber army, and yeah, they they just
get scrutinized online and it's the heart renting and it's horrible.
But that's I could give you this much advice you
could see, is that that you're making some you're doing
something well because if you know, you hit where there
was where it hurts the regime most is you're doing
(04:18):
something good.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well. I mean, I appreciate that, and you're probably right.
One interesting thing that I got hit with was about
Emmy k and American blood on their hands from nineteen
seventy three. So I went and I looked up that
story and it was it was interesting for a guy
like me, who you know, I was fourteen years old.
(04:41):
I don't know your age. Judging from your picture, i'm
considerably oh well, and you're quite lovely. But I knew
I had quite a few years on you. But I
was fourteen. I was fourteen years old when the hostage
crisis took place here in America, So I know I
knew of Roan what I did, only up until recently
(05:04):
when I started realizing, you know, the Iranian people themselves,
they're being executed on a daily basis, artists and you know,
regular citizens. This regime has been horrific, you know, my
entire life. So when this person said, you know, there's
some American blood on their hands, I looked at that
(05:24):
story from nineteen seventy three and it was interesting to
see the evolution of m K and how there was
a time when they were armed, but it was not
long after the hostage crisis that they became There was
a transition and they laid down their arms, became a
political movement, and Rejavi came along as part of that
(05:47):
long afterwards.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Exactly precisely. That's the narrative that the urinary regime wants
to twist that the MK had innocent people, not just
America and innocent people and overawe blood on their hands,
and that's just completely false. It just goes against everything
the core foundation and the core values of the MEK
(06:10):
and the movement as it holds. There's never been any
civil casualties that the MAK have occurred. And during that time,
during the hostage crisis, the Iranian, like the fundamentalist the
how Komani came and he basically took this revolution, hosted
and tricked people and made people the Iranian people do
(06:34):
stuff that they normally maybe wouldn't do. But the hostage
situation was plainly one hundred percent the Uranian regime and
their fundamentalists behind it. And as you can see today,
the ones praising it is the people within the Uranian
regime who takes the full accent and full responsibility for it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And is that why ultimately the MK decided, all right,
we've got to be unarmed at this point, which I
think was around nineteen eighty three, because we're struggling against
a government where we're under the rule of the Shah
and we don't want this, but we're just being you know,
positioned as yet another terrorist organization. So let's lay down
(07:18):
our arms and they you know, they can't call us
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, I wasn't around at that time, so I really
can't answer that question as to the fullest, but I
would assume that they m kate for the first never
wants they as you can see now that what Mayam
Rajavi presents is the Iran third option was basically says
no to war and no to appeasement and just or
(07:42):
supports the people of Iran and they're organized resistance, so
it all turns back to the powers to be in
the hands of the people. So I feel like to
really make a commit a true change in society, you
have to do it from the ground up. And that
could never happened through war and guns and violence. That
(08:03):
could only happen from really taking this rooted evil regime
from the boots and really talking it and burning it away.
That is the only way with each like real truth
freedom in Iran and the Middle East as well.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Ay, even there, Sarah, and again we'ron with my new
friend Sarah from Sweden, parents born in Iran, and we're
talking about this event in Brussels, Mike Penn's former vice
president speaking God at Mariam Rajavi speaking God to so
many great speeches given. You know, it was only two
months ago or so when you know, as I continued
(08:41):
my coverage in this, I still thought a diplomatic solution
was possible. I'm now coming. I came to the realization
only within the last month or so. Now for them
to be ousted, they've got to be physically removed, and
that's going to necessity a very real uprising exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And you're not the only one that was thinking like that.
Just a few months ago. So I feel like the
whole world is starting to wake up and to really
see what's the core and true problem in the Middle East,
And eventually the world is and it is the fundamental
terrorist regime in Iran that is pulling the swings in
the Middle East, that is making Middle East this horrible hellhole,
(09:24):
which it doesn't have to be. With the right hole
and the right forces, we can strive for a better
future for all.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's well said, Sara. Let me ask you this, your
mother and father, you still have family back in Iran.
I would imagine your parents must have friends still there.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, we have actually a lot of our family live
in Iran. Unfortunately, not all was so lucky that my
as my parents who was able to make it out.
But we have a family there, and of course they're
under oppression and a repression from the regime. And yeah,
it is hard to speak and have open communication with
(10:02):
our family because they're always under constant surveillance from the regime.
So yeah, it's very hard to be able to speak
to them in their way and the manner that you
would want to.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, you know, my heart goes out to you. Early
on in our little interview here are exchange. You said, no,
you know my parents are from Iran. I'm born and
raised in Sweden and I've never even been to Iran.
And you've got family there, family you've never been able
to meet because you can't go there. What a horror,
(10:35):
you know, as an American, I can't even wrap my
head around that exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And the regime is basically holding them hostage as well.
They don't have all the resources that they're not free.
My cousins can travel freely to another country. A woman
in Iran, she can't travel without her male guardians approval.
And if her male guardian her father or husband is
not present, it's her younger brother. So basically, a six
(11:03):
year old is a legal custody, a custodian over my
thirty year old cousin. It's just crazy. That is crazy,
crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Are you saying you have one too, a thirty year
old cousin someone who would like to come and visit
you and has to get permission.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
We do have a lot of family that would want
to come and visit us, but it's not possible. Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, this is this is a long time coming, and
I'd like to stay in touch with you as we
continue to Yeah, and I hope the momentum, you know,
can be sustained. I'd like to think that it will be.
And let's stay in touch online, and thanks so much
for taking the time today. Prayers for your family. I'm
so sorry that I can't even imagine having relatives you'd
(11:51):
like to meet, you'd like to you know, sit down
with in person, and not being able to. So prayers
for them, and let's stay in time.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, thank you so much. Of course we will and
absolutely in again. Thank you so much for supporting our cause.
And freedom will and is near and soon we will
hopefully see each other in Tehran and a huge party,
a party of freedom.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Maybe you and I will meet in person one day ourselves, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We will, we will. We can definitely space online, but
we will.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I love the optimism, and we'll talk again soon. Thanks
so much again for your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Thank you Minnie for having me have us such a
good day
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You too, sir,
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