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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is frustrating being from New Jersey understanding what happened with
the election, and then you turn on any cable news
and they're trying to tell you that this is some
sort of referendum on Trump. That and even on the right,
I've seen people on the right say that Cheryl won
because people are upset about Israel. That is not true.
That it's not what happened at all. Here's what happened.
New Jersey is a machine politics state. There is no
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Republican political machine. The Republicans have put zero effort into
the States. The only person that has bothered to do
anything like building a political machine in the States is
Scott Presler. And he's not from here. He just showed
up and was like, Wow, you guys are in shambles,
let me help. And that's not enough. Meanwhile, the Democrats,
there's one person in particular who won this election, and
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that's Brian Stax, who's the mayor of Union City and
he's a state senator. Because you can do that here.
And this is a Democrat who has been building a
political machine like the Tammany Hall political machine, like the
stuff from the early nineteen hundred since he was fifteen
years old, and when I was a little girl, Brian
Stack was going around sweeping the street trying to be mayor.
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And he's been mayor now for twenty five years, and
he's the most powerful person in New Jersey. And he
endorsed Cheryl because Cheryl was running against you Pullip, who
was the mayor of Jersey City. And everyone hates Steve Fullup,
especially other Democrats, and Brian Stack destroyed him to such
a point that you Fillip announced that he's moving to
New York. So the complete destruction of this guy. And
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so once you got rid of Phillip, Stack was stuck
with Mikey Cheryl, who was a terrible candidate. I mean,
she was going around saying pork role was disgusting, going
back to the started.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, I remember you said, yeah, that's how the
whole thing started, and I remember.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You horrible, horrible candidate. But Brian Stack's political machine is
so powerful that if you she won something like ninety
percent in Hudson County and it was all him, nobody has.
Those voters don't even know who she is. So the
idea that this has anything to do with Trump, you're
gonna hear that from people that don't know New Jersey
and that don't think local politics is important. They're gonna
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hear me and be like, what do you mean some
mayor is the deciding factor and they don't get it.
The mayor's on the ground. Brian Stach puts his cell
phone number on everything everywhere in Hudson County, and if
you have any problem in your life, you can just
call him on your cell phone. The man does not sleep.
And there's no Republican counterpoint to that. There's no fifteen
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year old Republican right now trying to build a political
machine in New Jersey. And we're going to keep losing
if we don't have that kind of local grassroots energy
and passion and work ethic well.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And that accessibility. You can't put a private that accessibility
always promised but disappears once they're in office. A guy
that exactly is that accessible. That goes a long way.
But I do have to say this or ask this
rather I feel like Trump's night, you know, Election Eve,
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Please to vote for Chitarelli and to vote for Cuomo
only galvanized at least at least a fringe, at least
some haters. Oh now I'm definitely voting for Mom Donnie.
Oh now, I'm definitely voting for Cheryl. I don't think
Trump endorsements help candidates. Do you think that's going too far?
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Am I flying in the face of exactly what you're
saying here, Like I'll leave Trump out of it, he
has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I half agree with that. I would say that if
you are already in deep enough that you are open
to voting for somebody like Mom Donnie, who's an actual communist,
by the way, is not necessarily to the left of
Andrew Cmo. And that's something else that really bothers. Clomo
is also an authoritarian communist with a deathcount of hundreds
of people. So the idea that Mam Donnie is somehow
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worse is ridiculous. But if you're already voting for Mom Donnie,
what Trump's as doesn't matter. You already hate Trump, and
the same thing with Cheryl, except for this population to
Hudson County that are like Hispanics. And I'm here, I'm
in Hudson County right now. The blind Stack people, they
don't speak English, they're now following, they don't listen to
cable news. They barely know Trump is there, they're worried
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about ice because of their relatives, but that's about it. Yeah,
I don't think that's the kind of person that's gonna
even know that Trump posted something on truth Social So
I don't think it affected that at all. But the
flip side to that is, I don't think Trump's endorsement
helps anybody. I don't think. And if you're already voting
for Cuomo, that means that you are a very rich
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person who is already a leftist. But for whatever reason,
Mom Donnie, maybe because he's young, maybe because he's you know,
of how he looks, you're uncomfortable with, Mom Donnie, for
whatever shallow reason, and you're voting for Cuomo, who's the
same thing. And I don't think you know, I don't
think Trump is. No one who was a already thinking
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about voting for Clomo was going to be moved to
vote for him harder because Trump gave an endorsement. And
same with Jack.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, how Chittarelli, it wasn't even close. Was he just
side dumbfounded by this? Have you done any articles for
Breibar sit downs with Jack?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
He has refused to engage with us, so and this
is his third loss, and before this election cycle he
was he was extremely anti Trump. So that's something that
the New Jersey Republicans have to address. Yeah, is this
the kind of candidate that is going to move forward?
Because I will say this about Jack, he worked really hard,
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and he campaigned really hard, and he went into Union City,
he went into the heart of the Cheryl machine and
was going door to door. So the problem here was
not laziness or apathy. I think the problem here was
incoherent ideology. I don't think he was significantly you know,
he has never been right winging to really galvanize the right.
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And the other problem is just the infrastructure of the
machine of campaigning and of getting out the vote. And again,
the only person who noticed this somehow was Scott Pressler,
who is not from here, and this is not his problem.
He's just, out of the goodness of his heart, came
in here and tried to help. And the New Jersey
Republican structure organization didn't even you know, didn't do enough
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to build on that. And Jack didn't do enough to
build on that, and he really hasn't. So that's where
the heart of the problem is. I can't imagine Chitarelli's
gonna run again for what a fourth time and be
a loser of fourth time. But we'll see, because nobody
loves making the same mistake over and over again more
than a New Jersey Republican.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah. No, it's interesting to hear you say too. Yeah,
he never interactive with us. Is one thing I found
trying to do my same old coverage, as you reach
out to all of the players, and usually my invitation
to Democrat candidates kind of fall on deaf ears. Invitations
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to Republican candidates. I get not all yes is, but
I'll get some. There's just not enough hunger, There's not
enough hustle. This time around, every Democrat said yes, we
were airing commercials on this station. The only advertisers were
Democratic candidates. Republicans weren't even spending on their ads. They
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think social media is the way to leave the election booth,
you know, victorious. I feel like that's I ran into
the same thing. A few of the Republicans that I
could not get to come on here. I was kind
of dumbfounded, like, Okay, nice hustle, you're feeling pretty cozy
and comfortable. I don't know what you should.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Be there's a sense that that real conservative journalism and
media that from the Northeast. I think this is a
Northeas problem is not just New Jersey. They think we're ecky.
They think that there's something unsightly about being unapologetically conservative,
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and they think that any association with unapologetic conservatism is
going to somehow tank their chances, when in reality they
keep losing because they don't stand. They don't have enough
of a backbone, and everybody can see that they don't
have enough of a backbone. So actually engaging with conservative media,
I mean Jack Sheon really didn't even he had some
sort of virtual rally with Trump. He didn't even appear
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anywhere with Trump. Meanwhile, they have Obama speaking of hardline
communists who are to the left of mom Nanni Borack
Obama was in New Jersey, you know, campaigning for Ryl
and Jack wouldn't have Trump, never mind Breitbart. So I
think that cowardice is something that every voter innately fields
and they're turned off by it, and I, for whatever reason,
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Northeast Republicans in New York is the same thing. Look
at how abandoned Curtis Leewa Curtis was an unapologetic conservative.
He won far and square his primary, and there were
you know, there were Republicans quote unquote in New York.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
He's scared. He's scared some.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We want owned cast. That's not a legitimate reason not
to defend an unapologetic conservative candidate who won his primary.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, he's he's a great I don't know if you've
ever interviewed him. I've had him on several times. I
wish it's been a long time though, since I've had
him on. Yeah, he did. He was doing radio himself
for a while too. Republicans can't reconcile with the vigilante
end of the equation.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And what he did, which was so groundbreaking, but what
that guy did back I was in awe of that
at fourteen years old. But for instance, see if you're
with me on this. I don't even say this for
Punchline's sake, but I believe in twenty twenty six, one
of the busiest in industries where the most money could
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be made is be a mover work for a moving
company moving. I really, I genuine genuinely believe that. I
believe people are going to be moving out of New
York to Connecticut, aut of New Jersey, maybe to New York,
maybe to Connecticut. There's going to be a lot of
hustle in our court or for moving companies. I honestly
believe that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, well we're I think we're going to see interest
rates fall too, and that's going to add to the chaos.
But it's yeah, I think that's coming. I hope it
goes to Florida. I hope it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You know, I hope that left the New.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yorkers that destroyed their own country just go away from
me because we can't have that. We can't have more Montclair's.
You know, we can't have more of these towns that
are completely filled up by leftists out of Staters who
have no cultural or emotional connection to our state. You know,
we can't have more Virginians and Massachusetts liberals as governors
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of our state. We cannot afford to not have people
from New Jersey run New Jersey. But you're I think
there's gonna be a lot of movement. I think a
lot of it is going to be media driven too,
because all those horrible promises that mom Donnie's throwing out
there that he's going to have a Venezuela style, you know,
rational government, supermarket. They're not possible. He's not going to
be able to do any of these things. So I
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think people are going to panic, flee New York, and
then they're going to regret it. It's going to be
a little like COVID