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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nils Gravilius, a PI, a Los Angeles based PI who
I would imagine you have all sorts of stories to tell.
In fact, you do have a book, several books out right.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, I've got a few old novels, sinny, but I've
got a professional memoir coming out in tune of twenty six,
in Ted of the Last law Man, about thirty years
in the saddle of a private detective Villies.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah. And the game has changed in thirty years too, right,
maybe you went from the days of zoom lenses to
now you've got cell phones. I mean, as far technology
has really changed the PI game, I would imagine, Well.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's added to it, but it also creates confusion. People
think that you can get everything off of the internet. Well,
looking for real facts on the internet, Vinnie is like
trying to take a drink from a fire.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I said. And have you you
would Los Angeles born and raised or how long have
you been living? Calling Los Angeles home.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Angelus? Sof and on since I was in the elementary school.
I was born in Queensville.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh wow, no kidding, that's really interesting. It's quite a
story and on to talk about and considering your tooling
around Los Angeles. You know there's a lot of Los
Angelino's names. I would imagine we're going to be on
this Ebstein list, if there even is such a list.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I would imagine. So I'll tell you any what this
whole thing looks like is an intelligence operation, maybe by
CIA and MI six. I'm not entirely sure. I spent
a little time in military intelligence. My idea is that
(01:53):
maybe Sheilen Maxwell is the boss and Brian and Epstein
is just the hotelier, and they were running a honey
trap to lure men of influence to be played or
worked in other ways. You'll notice she's the one still alive.
She has citizenship in the UK, France, and the US
(02:15):
all three. She could have gone anywhere, but instead she
chose to go to prison, and she's probably safer there
than she would be out on the hoof somewhere. And
then why is why did Jim Dennihee, the FBI Special
Agent in charge of Southern District of New York, quit
(02:36):
when Pam Bondi demanded the full accountability on the files
and dennehe was in charge of this whole project. Dennihe
wasn't a specialist in child trafficking, sex, abuse of minors, criminality, fraud,
any of that. Jim Denihee was a counterintelligence man. Vinny.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
You know a lot of what you just said right there,
I've noticed began circulating at the very least. I started
seeing that last night about six. I've been I'm seeing
weird rallying cries. Well I shouldn't preface it with weird,
but you know, release Maxwell. I don't know who the
people are demanding her release from jail and on what grounds,
(03:23):
but I six, that's starting to be circulated.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That theory, well, her father, Robert Maxwell, was a checho
national who landed in England in the thirties and served
in the British military. And if you look at his profile,
he looks like either I six or a Bond villain.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, in which case the other theory that I started
seeing or a Bond villain, that's great. The other there,
I can't help jaws immediately comes to mind when I
think Bond villains. But they did get slicker in other installments.
The other thing that I started seeing yesterday, and it
was like a light bulb over the head moment, was
(04:05):
you know, just some you know, sharpshooter on social media
say you think there's only one island? You know, am
I sick? You know how many islands there probably are?
And I believe that?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is This is classic stuff for
intelligence agencies. And I think what happened with the Maxwell
Epstein operation is Prince Andrew wanted into it, and then
it became untenable. You know, He's going to bring all
of his drinking buddies and the word's going to get out.
And you can't run an operation if you've got a
(04:38):
bunch of big, splashy celebrities coming in all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's it. And then also the release of these names
or whatever this is. We're seeking here.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
A laptop.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because I doubt there's a client list like on a
Steno pad somewhere. But now you've got a president who's
got to concern himself with international relations too, you said,
Prince you know, so there's also that element. Although Trump
should have never made the promise.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well that's a political thing, and you could be right
about that, Vinny. If anybody can play this to a
national advantage, it's Donald Trump. Yeah, anybody else would just
be stepping in it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, he hasn't made a concrete move yet. Would I
be surprised here is name on the list. There's not
a name that could be read off of that list
that would surprise me. But that's me. I'm a jaded
fifty eight year old. You know. We spent a few
minutes on the phone before you came on here. There's
no name that's going to be on that list. It's
(05:43):
going to surprise me. I've long believed too. And I
don't know if you feel the same way that there
are some people who might have gone to Epstein Island
and just they were hobnopping, you know, with the rich
and famous. They had no idea that there was such
a CD underbelly and now their names on the list,
and they're like, I didn't know anything, just like some
(06:04):
people probably went to a ditty party and were liked,
that was a good time. I didn't know anything. I
didn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's a possibility, Vinny. I think you're correct. And just
as though, just as there are many Pitcaren islands, there's
probably five didty parties being planned in Los Angeles, Houston
and the Hamptons. Right now.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That's it. That's it. Just different host well, or you know,
the host remains concealed and again Aroun with Nils Gravilius,
Los Angeles based private detective. Do you think the celebrity
the celebrity count will outnumber the political figure count or
(06:49):
the power broker count, Because I think that's another thing.
I think there's a lot of radio hosts out there
who took n TV, you know, hosts who take you know,
if I got that list, I would right now. And
they're going to see the names of big advertisers, CEOs
of corporations. And there's a lot of names on this
(07:10):
list that people cannot say, Oh, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Sure you're correct about that. And then when you're running
an intelligence operation like that, you want a few names
in there that are just throwaways, you know, party guests. Yeah,
because your real play might be for some financier from
Ghana or somebody who's in charge of rare if mining
in Kazakhstan or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah. Yeah, And all of that is stuff that the
president and his administration is dealing with in a lot
of levels right now, minerals, et cetera, et cetera. And
so the international implications are larger than at the very
least I initially believed. How do you feel Bongino has
(07:57):
been and Bondi have been firing during all of this.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I think they're doing very well. This conflict between them,
I think is largely imagined. People want to be first
to the story, and if you make something up, you
are certainly first to the story. Bongino's never been shy
in the past about saying when he's in conflict with
an idea or a person or a group of people.
(08:24):
Same thing with Cashpateel. Cash Pateel risked his very freedom.
A year ago, Democrats were talking about prosecuting cash Btel
Nils Gravilius, a PI, a Los Angeles based PI who
I would imagine you have all sorts of stories to tell.
In fact, you do have a book, several books out right.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, I've got a few old novels, sinny, but I've
got a professional memoir coming out in tune of twenty six,
in Ted of the Last law Man, about thirty years
in the saddle of a private detective Villies.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah. And the game has changed in thirty years too, right,
maybe you went from the days of zoom lenses to
now you've got cell phones. I mean, as far technology
has really changed the PI game, I would imagine, Well.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's added to it, but it also creates confusion. People
think that you can get everything off of the internet. Well,
looking for real facts on the internet, Vinnie is like
trying to take a drink from a fire.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I said. And have you you
would Los Angeles born and raised or how long have
you been living? Calling Los Angeles home.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Angelus? Sof and on since I was in the elementary school.
I was born in Queensville.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh wow, no kidding, that's really interesting. It's quite a
story and on to talk about and considering your tooling
around Los Angeles. You know there's a lot of Los
Angelino's names. I would imagine we're going to be on
this Ebstein list, if there even is such a list.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I would imagine. So I'll tell you any what this
whole thing looks like is an intelligence operation, maybe by
CIA and MI six. I'm not entirely sure. I spent
a little time in military intelligence. My idea is that
(01:53):
maybe Sheilen Maxwell is the boss and Brian and Epstein
is just the hotelier, and they were running a honey
trap to lure men of influence to be played or
worked in other ways. You'll notice she's the one still alive.
She has citizenship in the UK, France, and the US
(02:15):
all three. She could have gone anywhere, but instead she
chose to go to prison, and she's probably safer there
than she would be out on the hoof somewhere. And
then why is why did Jim Dennihee, the FBI Special
Agent in charge of Southern District of New York, quit
(02:36):
when Pam Bondi demanded the full accountability on the files
and dennehe was in charge of this whole project. Dennihe
wasn't a specialist in child trafficking, sex, abuse of minors, criminality, fraud,
any of that. Jim Denihee was a counterintelligence man. Vinny.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
You know a lot of what you just said right there,
I've noticed began circulating at the very least. I started
seeing that last night about six. I've been I'm seeing
weird rallying cries. Well I shouldn't preface it with weird,
but you know, release Maxwell. I don't know who the
people are demanding her release from jail and on what grounds,
(03:23):
but I six, that's starting to be circulated.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That theory, well, her father, Robert Maxwell, was a checho
national who landed in England in the thirties and served
in the British military. And if you look at his profile,
he looks like either I six or a Bond villain.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, in which case the other theory that I started
seeing or a Bond villain, that's great. The other there,
I can't help jaws immediately comes to mind when I
think Bond villains. But they did get slicker in other installments.
The other thing that I started seeing yesterday, and it
was like a light bulb over the head moment, was
(04:05):
you know, just some you know, sharpshooter on social media
say you think there's only one island? You know, am
I sick? You know how many islands there probably are?
And I believe that?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is This is classic stuff for
intelligence agencies. And I think what happened with the Maxwell
Epstein operation is Prince Andrew wanted into it, and then
it became untenable. You know, He's going to bring all
of his drinking buddies and the word's going to get out.
And you can't run an operation if you've got a
(04:38):
bunch of big, splashy celebrities coming in all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's it. And then also the release of these names
or whatever this is. We're seeking here.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
A laptop.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because I doubt there's a client list like on a
Steno pad somewhere. But now you've got a president who's
got to concern himself with international relations too, you said,
Prince you know, so there's also that element. Although Trump
should have never made the promise.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well that's a political thing, and you could be right
about that, Vinny. If anybody can play this to a
national advantage, it's Donald Trump. Yeah, anybody else would just
be stepping in it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, he hasn't made a concrete move yet. Would I
be surprised here is name on the list. There's not
a name that could be read off of that list
that would surprise me. But that's me. I'm a jaded
fifty eight year old. You know. We spent a few
minutes on the phone before you came on here. There's
no name that's going to be on that list. It's
(05:43):
going to surprise me. I've long believed too. And I
don't know if you feel the same way that there
are some people who might have gone to Epstein Island
and just they were hobnopping, you know, with the rich
and famous. They had no idea that there was such
a CD underbelly and now their names on the list,
and they're like, I didn't know anything, just like some
(06:04):
people probably went to a ditty party and were liked,
that was a good time. I didn't know anything. I
didn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's a possibility, Vinny. I think you're correct. And just
as though, just as there are many Pitcaren islands, there's
probably five didty parties being planned in Los Angeles, Houston
and the Hamptons. Right now.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That's it. That's it. Just different host well, or you know,
the host remains concealed and again Aroun with Nils Gravilius,
Los Angeles based private detective. Do you think the celebrity
the celebrity count will outnumber the political figure count or
(06:49):
the power broker count, Because I think that's another thing.
I think there's a lot of radio hosts out there
who took n TV, you know, hosts who take you know,
if I got that list, I would right now. And
they're going to see the names of big advertisers, CEOs
of corporations. And there's a lot of names on this
(07:10):
list that people cannot say, Oh, I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Sure you're correct about that. And then when you're running
an intelligence operation like that, you want a few names
in there that are just throwaways, you know, party guests. Yeah,
because your real play might be for some financier from
Ghana or somebody who's in charge of rare if mining
in Kazakhstan or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah. Yeah, And all of that is stuff that the
president and his administration is dealing with in a lot
of levels right now, minerals, et cetera, et cetera. And
so the international implications are larger than at the very
least I initially believed. How do you feel Bongino has
(07:57):
been and Bondi have been firing during all of this.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I think they're doing very well. This conflict between them,
I think is largely imagined. People want to be first
to the story, and if you make something up, you
are certainly first to the story. Bongino's never been shy
in the past about saying when he's in conflict with
an idea or a person or a group of people.
(08:24):
Same thing with Cashpateel. Cash Pateel risked his very freedom.
A year ago, Democrats were talking about prosecuting cash Btel
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