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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go to the project houtline right now. I just
want to get to know someone I've been dare I say,
friends with for a little while, Metri Metrid, Do I
consider you a friend?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes? I do too. I do consider you a friend
as well.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, you've been very informative. I've missed. I've gotten a
lot wrong these last few months, and you've been quick
to correct me. You. Uh, you're a wonderful I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
If I'm as quick on my feet.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So yeah, no, you are. You are now you lived here.
I just want to get a few things straight. Like
you you called New York home for a while, right?
Do I have that right?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes? I had a long internship in Manhattan. Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
How how long do you buy my ass?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
How long were you in.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The States for a year?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
For a year? Okay? Yes, but born and raised in
Iran and until born born in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Your on and raised until six and then we fled
your on obviously because my parents were in the resistance.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, fled. It's so interesting, Mitra. You know some of
the guests that I've had on over the last few
months from and none of them used the word fled.
They all came here for education. Nobody's used the word
fled before. It's so interesting because I could see why
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you would in my lifetime from what I've seen, and
you know, I always referenced the hostage crisis of nineteen
seventy nine. Yeah, that's when I first came to even
know anything about Iran. But all of these scholars and
even the professor who lives here in Connecticut but was
born and raised in Iran, they don't used the word fled.
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They were like, oh, no, I came here, you know
for college.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We fled. We really fled. I remember fleeing Iran like
it was yesterday. Yeah, we led the Iotola's rule. So no, Yeah,
my father did study in the States, but that was
before I was born, and then he came back to
(02:15):
you on to start his family. And actually he walked
the seventy nine rally, you know, against the show for
you know, like a brighter future for her family and
for his children. But unfortunately it took a really long turn.
(02:37):
The Iolas hijacked that revolution. So yeah, after that, he
was like not having it. So he was like, we're
out of here.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, as a father was you know, looking out for
his family, I do I would do the same, especially
if it was beginning to just feel feudal. Although what
I get from you, you don't even like using the
word feudal. Right now you feel like it's within your
grasp finally in your lifetime like this can happen. You
wouldn't use the word feudal. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, I think it is within grasp and I'm willing
to commit to it. So as long as there are
people committing to it, it is within grass. And in
the rally in Brussels, I saw the third and actually
almost the fourth generation of resistance, you know, LIKEKMRI supporters,
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so that we celebrated sixty years of the people majority
in the organization of Iran at the rally as well.
So and they're going strong. And the founder of the
PMRII was twenty seven years old when he founded the
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organization during the time of shock, and now on stage
was a young boy who's I think was twenty two
or something like that, and he was, you know, holding
a speech as well, and it was very impressive. It
was like a full circle moment, you know, like sixty
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years later and it's still going strong. So as long
as we are there and the next generation is there
and we are handing the baton back and forth. It
will come. So yeah, I have hope.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah. Well, looking at the looking at the photos of
the rally in Brussels on Saturday, tens of thousands of people.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It was a nastivey of people going to a rock concert.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, how did it wind up being Brussels? Why was
that chosen as the location as the place to have
this rally? Was there a reasoning behind this?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I'm not sure if there was a reasoning, but I
think we needed to have the European that's my.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Reasoning for it.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
We need to stop in Europe, stop appeasing the mullas
this regime because it doesn't like appeasement doesn't bring security
in by fascism, so it needs to end now. And
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in Brussels, that's the capital of the European Parliament. So
that was the best thing to make that known.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, and former Vice President Mike Pence, and he had
to speak, who I didn't realize, you know, I did
a little bit of homework after I saw that he
was speaking there, because he's been a little low profile
since last many years here Stateside anyway, but he's been
an advocate for a free year round all along, speaking
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on the subject as far back as seventy eight nine
years How is it? How did you feel his speech
when was it well received?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well, Dinny, if I'm I got the I pad, so
I got you are, Yeah that I was like, Wow,
this guy is tall and he's like, you know, like
you could like look up to him.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He was like a calm presence and a man of God.
So I really liked his presence.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And yeah, he is like a.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Silent force, but it was a force though, you know,
it was a force to be, you know, to to acknowledge.
And he and his wife went to Asha Tree in
Albania a couple of years ago and he said that
and yeah, he talked about the human spirits and that
there is you know, no greater power than the power
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of you know, the will and the courage of three
men to you know, to stand up for other people's freedom.
And uh, yeah, he gave a beautiful speech and.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, we were very impressed. But the former Prime
Minister of Belgium was there too, you know, guy from Hostels,
So that was impressive. The former Vice President of the
European Parliament Alego without quad Russ was there. Speaker of
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the House of Comments of the UK was there. Congressman
Kennedy was there. He gave a speech, great speech too,
But the most surprisingly, mister was there Lives. I know.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I was surprised, too, surprised. I'm glad to hear you
say that, because I didn't know why. I was surprised
that she would be there. It seemed like she needed
to be there. And yet I felt the same way, like, oh,
I didn't expect for Javi to be there and to speak,
and she gave a great speech.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yes, took it was a high hot she took a lot.
It was a high risk beneath I was like, this
woman is sacrificing her life to be there.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I didn't want to put that out there. I didn't
want to say that out loud. That is what I felt, but.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Listen, I was there. I was like, this is my god,
this is like really it was an open space, you know,
like they could attack from everywhere, and they have tried
every rally, every gathering. So she took, you know, in
man's frisk but she walked the walk.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's not just talking or sitting idle and saying stuff
has been through the ringer. But it was just all
the guests. I didn't expect a former vice president to
be there as well, but I think for security reasons
they didn't mention that, because you know, people can plus
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stop beforehand of you.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Sure, oh yeah, sure, sure that makes sense. You know,
I do have to say if I'm going to be
completely honest, and I always try to be with you, Mitra,
because I'm a little because I'm a little intimidated by you.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I am.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You're my international friend, but I mean, this is serious business,
and uh, you know, and I want to make sure
you know a few of my interviews that I posted
you didn't necessarily like the direction the guests that I
would have on about it would go to and then
and then I'd get all nervous and be you made me. Well,
you didn't make me. I shouldn't put it that way.
(09:56):
But one one of my posts, You're like, I don't
understand the ODO that you used, so I changed it.
I'm intimidated by you, so I went and wow, there's
no reason but for vincent yes, ma'am, yes it is, yes, yes, uh,
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And but I did want to put out there that well,
first of all, I mean my thought process behind all
of this is and why my tune kind of changed.
As far as you know, a country I've been afraid
of since I was a little boy is you know,
if its own people are living in fear every day
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until we resolved that until that gets resolved, will stay
living in fear too. So you know, it's just logic.
But I did want to put out one thing to
you there. This is the yesterday I posted something about
the rally, and it was the first time every time
I've commented, and you know, in hashtag free Iran, and
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you know, I've gotten nothing but love and support from
the Iranian people, from people across the globe. This was
the first day and somebody said to me on on
Twitter on x they said, you're going to hear from
Mullah's in disguise, acting like everyday folks, You're going to
hear they're going to come for you now. And I thought, why,
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you know, I've posted a million times, but I did
get a few uh Anti Rishavi like some some.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
They're normally there. They are now the Shaw affiliates who
are prostration for the Mullas and for the Shaw. So
the knife cuts both ways, you know, like they they
we say, they are, you know, two sides of the
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same coin.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
That's the line they use. That's that's what one of
them used, they said, Marion Rajatte, they said to me,
they just said, it's two sides of the same coin.
It would be the same outcome. And I thought, how
do you find anyone to even trust? Their trust must
be so hard to come somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Jinny, that's the problem. That's that's why they tell us.
They labeled the supporters and the ny KY like as
a call because you know, we are we only to
trust each other, you know, like we only because we've
been prosecuted, you know, like bombs, jails executed actually on
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the day of the rally, they executed on such a day.
Iran executed a cmo I affiliate on that day.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, like audacity, and it's not and it's not even
getting global that should get global coverage, media coverage.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It doesn't get media coverage. We are the censorship of
the West, they college because you know, they just don't
want to, you know, they want to appease them all
us so and they know that the ancr I or
the resistance is the antidote to them, so they don't
want to give them space to you know, coverage.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
So and I know that, yeah, and I know that
the goal on Saturday was to get the message out
you know, no war, no appeasement. We we just want
a peaceful transition. And I have to be honest, mitra,
and what do I know. I'm a full hardy American
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in New Haven, Connecticut. But it doesn't seem like that's possible.
It seems like this regime has to be physically removed.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
To me, it has to the people have to reclaim power.
That's going to be uh while sitting at home, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You know, like.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You need to stand up and reclaim that power. So
but the transition people say there will be chaos, and
that chaos that one we can peacefully transition because there
is a parliament in exile. That one we can transition.
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But the people need to stand up and reclaim their
you know, resist tyranny and reclaim their power because that
system that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Would necessitate bloodshed. Unfortunately, I think to reclaim to physically
remove is going to necessitate you know, blood will be spilled.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, there will be blood spilled.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
There will be blood.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It is it is the you know, how many have
been executed already, one hundred and twenty thousands, So for freedom,
and it is for the freedoms of the country.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Is for a better.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Future, for inheritance for your children, for that, you know,
like you can't sit at home watching TV hoping that
you know, like the regime goes away and if you
bomb it, they get the replaced one. Itolog with another one.
Because when Romani died, you know, the founder of the
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lot of this system, that this draconian system that's running
the running the country died, they replaced it, but with
harmon a So that system needs to be uprooted and
the people need to stand up. And how many in
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the uprising of two thousan twenty two, how many young
people did this they torture, did they rate, did they kill?
So it is not it's eon has sacrificed so many
lives already.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, well, Saturday was certainly a first and a major
move in the right direction. Got to keep that momentum
up though right now.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But there wasn't a one off. It was the NCRI
and the pm I celebrated its sixty ad birthday, but
it was they from from the eighties on they have
rallies and gatherings all, you know, like annually. So it's
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not that you know, liked, but this was a very major,
important one since.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
The beginning a couple of ds. I'd like to say
it's the beginning at the end, but that's optimism speaking.
But I hope that it is the beginning of thegning
of the end.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, because the people, you know, the power outages, the
water shortages, people are fed up the infrastructure in Iran.
They spent all the money, all the resources they spent
on Foxy Wars and on terrorism abroad and on repression
in Iran, and nothing goes to the people. So at
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some point, you know, like the price of bread is,
you know, like they can't even it's almost priceless.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You know, So I would imagine, Yeah, so, Metra, this
is also the beginning. I'd like to think of you
being a regular on the show. Let's let's let's why
you know what you laughed at that suggestion. I would
like you to be a regular on the show. My correspondent,
my Iranian correspondent, if you will.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Your Iranian crosspland is something egollent.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yes, I'm making you that offer right now, You've become
a very important friend in my life, I'll say again.
I'll circle around and say you're my my international bestie.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's how that's an internationals. I don't know if I
have so much value to add, but you certainly people
I can't suggest.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yes,