NEIL MUNRO

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the show, Breitbart News immigration expert Neil Monroe.
It's been a while. Glad to have you back on
Hope all as well.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh yeah, it's completely busy. Been thrown over Niagara falls
in a barrow every day.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah. Well, especially on this way. I want to start
with the one about Trump sketching a plan to deport many,
but and then recall the ones for farm and hotel
jobs because a listener called me out on this on
Friday before the weekend kicked off, and he was outraged

(00:38):
by it. He painted a little bit or at least
the way it came across to me is different, very
negative than the article I'm reading that you wrote, which
is just basically Trump telling his cabinet is very big
self deportation operation we're in. We want to work with people.

(01:01):
They go out in a nice legal way, go back
to their country. We're going to get them to return legally.
It gives them an incentive to leave and for us
to get it right. Am I understanding? Let's start on that.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, and your care would make a great DC lobbyist
in DC who everything is drama, an emergency, crisis, chaos,
disaster unless I get my way in the next five minutes,
and frankly abs that's the way American citizens should respond
to this. The President is making a remarkable attempt to

(01:40):
use all the tools he's got, including laws that have
never been applied before, to push some to push illegal
imigrants out. It's about I mean, arguments back and forth.
But there's at least fifteen million, maybe twenty one million,
and the President is really trying to implement and his

(02:00):
promise to reverse this. Biden brought in ten million or so,
and so it's just extraordinary the stuff he's doing. They
just revived the law last in the fifties or so
that said migrants when they come into the country, visitors,
you name it, everyone, not everyone, all visitors must register

(02:23):
with the federal government doll I'm in the country after
thirty days, and if they don't do it, they're violating
a crime. Now, this Congress passed this doll, nobody's applied
it in a fifty sixty years, seventy years. But Trump
brings it up and he says, okay, guys, we're going
to follow this law because if it means that that

(02:47):
the nation's population of legal imments has now commissioned a
clear obvious federal criminal crime. Normally, it's not a civil
crime like most immigration laws are. It's a criminal crime.
And so under these new rules, when the Feds when
they come across a criminal, when they come across the

(03:07):
legal immigrant, they can say, well have you registered, and
the guy will say no, I have not, and then
the Feds can say, well, you have now commissioned a crime.
You're out of the country, fast tracked, no fuss, no musk.
So he's doing lots of those things. Yeah, and yet
he is also under tremendous pressure from other members of

(03:29):
the gop. By hotels, there's a huge number of hotels
that are operated by Indians and the nor citizens the
kind of weird visa category they come and live here,
providing the operated business. Well, how do you make profits
in hotels? You cut labor costs to the minimum. And

(03:53):
in practice, what that means and has been happening on
a large scale is the Indian hotel operations just call
up the mayor of their town or back in India,
are relatives back in India and they say send over
like our kids, you know, visitors. They have a a

(04:13):
group of visitors from India come and work for two
dollars an R or something like that. And so we've
got numerous hotels that have taken out loans based on
the assumption that they're going to have work at two
three dollars an R. This is just not acceptable.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
You know, I'm tickled by this. This is going to
be a reach. You're probably not going to be with
me on this, Neil. But because going way back to
when Trump is first term, maybe even before it, on
one of the daytime talk shows, Kelly Osbourne, I don't
know if that name's even from Ozzie Osbourne's daughter, she

(04:58):
made a crack. She's like, you know, he owns all
these hotels, who's gonna work in his hotels if he
deports all these people? And she got canceled. She's done.
She hasn't been on TV ever since. But what she
was really saying was the hotel industry is really exploiting
that labor and they were and are. Anybody who stays

(05:20):
at a hotel knows it.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes, you have the cleanest commonly scared you and they
don't speak a word of English and they've been working safety.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, it's not they're not wonderfy I exchanged pleasantries in
the hallway. But they don't know what the hell I'm saying.
I don't know what they're saying a cam com me
And they're probably getting, like you said, two dollars an hour.
That's best case scenario. Some are probably getting less.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, And it's and it's there's a shocking amount of this,
But it's this human by the way. They work hard,
and they'll go back to India after a year or
so with the savings of a thousand dollars, which is
worth a fortunate India. It's rational for a poor person
Indy to work for two dollars in our year. But
it's terrible for American community, they say. So in American community,

(06:09):
instead of having that has a hotel, let's say, instead
of having ten people with jobs in that hotel who
get decent wages and then they raise their families and
they pay taxes and they buy stuff at the local store.
The Indians don't do that. They live in the basement,
so to speak. They spend as little as possible. It

(06:29):
drains money from the town. But so what the President
is saying, Look, I have a practical problem. I've got
to deal with all these hotel guys coming to me
every day. And it's the same with the farmers, only
not as bad as that. And so we were as
Americans you sort of expect a politician to act like

(06:50):
some idealistic judge making wise decisions every day. That's not true.
They get up in the morning and they spend all
day off requests and please from politics from voters. Give
me this, give me that, let me have this job,
let me move there, sign this document, change this policy.
Most of them just want to say whatever they can

(07:14):
to get rid of these people asking for stuff. Your
average politician will say, sure, maybe, sure, call me back
to have your lowyers called me. Yeah. Maybe. And so
when you watch Trump do things, part of the time,
he's just doing that. He's just giving vague answers to
send off people coming to his door asking for stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Well, I just love that you singled out to the politicians, uh,
the elected officials who talk about uh, you know, they're here,
they're great for the economy. They're they're they're living here
and spending here. Not as the wayes they're making that
they're not helping our economy. And anyway, that's been such
a laughable talking point. We have that right here in Connecticut.

(08:02):
They're great for the economy. Connecticut is so expensive, they're
dying here right and you.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Know you can make Also, it's not easy this because
so for example, if the hotel has suddenly said, well,
we can't hire people for two dollars an hour, are
we now out to pay fifteen to twenty Okay, some
hotels are going to go out of business. On the
other hand, some hotels are going to buy some kind
of technology or are They're going to do some clever things.

(08:30):
And ordinary Americans will gain from this because it will
forces businesses to be more efficient and more productive. It's
not easy being a politician. There are many contradictory things.
Good policies require some people to make to work harder,

(08:51):
pay more money. And Trump is doing an extraordinary job
in doing what he said. I mean, how often do
actually get do what he said? He he came in
said I'm going to fix the border. The border fixed.
They just like a trickle of people coming over the border,
just a tiny numbers compared to Biden was importing a

(09:14):
couple of million people deliberately over the border. And Trump
to fix that just extraordinary.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Where I'm with Bry Part News immigration expert Neil Munro.
I just want to make sure people know who they're
hearing right now, and in your article you do say
really quickly, I did want to ask you this that
the exit and return process that we initially were talking
about here would be around sixty days. Trump thinks, how
could he hazard a guess on that number? And I mean,

(09:47):
I hope that that's accurate and the return process. Will
they be here legally at that point, because that's really
what's got to happen here is us finally fixing the
broken system and making it streamlining it so like, Okay,
you're here, You're not here on a temporary visa. You're here,
you are a legal American citizen. That's what we really

(10:09):
that's what the endgame has got to be.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well maybe, but like I'd argue, the endgame has to
be pressure on companies so they pay people decently and
buy more technology. We want to be Switzerland, are Singapore,
not Bolivia. We want good wages and people getting good

(10:33):
job But so the president says, well, you'd leave the
country and you'll be back in sixty days. Well, like,
the more you know about this stuff, like in a
way it's funny. There's a program called the h two
a program which allows farmers to import to import workers
for the farm. They can stay ten months and they
got to go home. These are temporary workers. So when

(10:56):
Trump says I'm going to work with the farmers, we're
going to send the illegal home and then they're going
to come back sixty days later, what he's in effect
saying is we'll get all your illegals out of the country,
and then you can import people, including the former illegals,
on legalized temporary work permits. Okay, So but there's no

(11:20):
problem with doing that. We under the current law, this
HQA program is uncapped. The farmers can import as many
temporary workers as they want. It just happens that the
wages and housing rules for those temporary workers make them
more expensive for farmers that many farmers prefer to hire

(11:41):
illegals than to bring in these temporary workers. So in
that sense, the President says it gives nothing to the
farmers except words. When he says, we're going to send
your illegals home and you can bring him in sixty
days later, and that just means we're going to send
your illegals home and then you can bring in the
world because you want via this H two A program,

(12:02):
And there's a similar program for blue collar laborers only
that's called the H two B and that's capped, so
it's not clear. I don't think the president can do
anything can help the hotels by saying he can't offer
the hotels unlimited workers. Admittedly, that's what Biden did. Remember

(12:23):
I told you about all the Indian hotel operators bringing
in Indian workers. They come through the airport, they say, oh,
I'm a tourist. I'm going to visit Disneyland. And under
Biden's rules, the border patrol has to say, Okay, I
believe you whatever you say in stamp their passport company
ability to say no, we don't believe this, yeah, and

(12:45):
stop that flower worker.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
It's interesting too to see hotel jobs and farm jobs
in the same in a headline, especially because farms are
typically an American farm that's in a family, that's family owned,
family run, you know, generation upon generation. I wouldn't have
thought that that was in an area where a lot
of labor was being exploited, unless it's within the confines

(13:10):
of generations of family