TEDDY PIERCE Returns To The Project

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Teddy Pierce, welcome back to the Vinie Penn Project. I
have to tell you you weren't not. I don't know
if you realize you're just done. A couple of weeks back,
you got rave reviews Teddy Pearce being your last time
on the project. Yeah, I heard about that. For the
next couple of days, a lot of people following you
on AX as a result. One guy was all excited.
He's like, he followed me back. I had a right

(00:21):
to him. Well, that's that's great that I don't even
think you're following me. Teddy the author of De Throne
Davos Save America. And the question in front of me
today is is the new American pope a globalist foil
to Trump's America First agenda? And it sparked a question
in me that I immediately wanted to ask you, Teddy,

(00:43):
And that's on the services. It's a crazy question, but
considering he's American, maybe it's possible. Do you think the
President of the United States was taken into consideration at all?
Was a potential even conversation during the conclace.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know, those tea leaves are very hard to read,
but in looking at what you have, as far as
mechanisms of power and control, who controls them? I would
not put it past the media industrial complex for a
moment to use the American pope as a foil, at

(01:25):
least in trying to narrative build against the American presidents.
And will I guess I was a little hard on
the Pope when the announcement first came out, So I
will let time tell and let him carve out his
own way, as it were. But what I see with
Pope Leo the fourteenth is he was one of the

(01:48):
biggest cheerleaders to Pope Francis, especially on cinidelity. This idea
that we're going to democratize the doctrine of the church, which,
for better or worse, and maybe that is in principle
a good thing, but it's not a good thing when
you have globalists trying to foil you and undermine you

(02:09):
at every turn. And so you know, time will tell.
But Francis's papacy represented a lot of ambiguity, a lot
of handholding, playing foot seat, and just this idea that
we were going to nice the globalist into into our
way of thinking, you know, And I think that that

(02:31):
was a method for Francis where he thought he was
evangelizing these people and had no idea he was the
one being essangelized in the end. And so I hope
it's not Francis two point zero. I hope that he's
got more of a spine, more of a kind of
freedom and sovereignty backing by virtue of being an American.
But time will tell. He served as a missionary in Peru,

(02:54):
so he's very aware of the of liberation theology, and
like I said, he seemed to be on mission and
on point with Fancis.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know, Leo Is, it's interesting, very easy to not
necessarily jump to conclusions but form an actual opinion on
So I don't blame it, like when you say, ah,
you know, I jumped real quick and I got to
let time. You know, only time will tell, et cetera,
et cetera. Because if you stand by your Twitter feed

(03:25):
and you're on there often and you're saying what you
mean and meaning what you say, I can get a
handle on who you are. I'm not a fan of
when people pull something controversial somebody posted from twenty eleven out,
but if it's like oh, in this past year alone,
here's you know, five, six, seven posts that really can

(03:48):
give you an insight to a person. Leo did that.
You know, he gave us that. It's not like he
ran and deleted anything. And I think you would stand
by everything held him. So you know, anything you felt,
I think you were right to feel and think about.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Him well absolutely. And you know one of the things
that I posted on X a couple of weeks ago
and before the vote was I said, here's the litmus
test for you to know whether we get a good
pope or a bad pope. If we get a pope
and the decision comes down and he is lauded by

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the mainstream media and fawned on by the secular world,
you'll know that we got a bad pope. If we
get a pope that gets criticized, immediately, criticized as stodgy
and old fashioned and fuddy duddy, and is looked down upon,
you'll know that we get a good pope. And so

(04:47):
the media reaction being mixed something that tells me that,
you know, again, that's a sign for hope. But also,
you know, he's very critical of He was very critical
of our immigration policy, particularly under Trump. Some of those
tweets are suspect and go back to that concern of mind,

(05:10):
which is are they going to try to placate the
media narrative? Are they going to try to play footsy
with the globalists moving forward and thinking that they're, like
I said, niceing their way over to their way of thinking.
If they do that, they're going to continue to be
infiltrated by this movement, which makes no bones about it,

(05:30):
wants to undermine the power of the Catholic Church. That's
a huge mechanism standing in the way of their power.
So I hope he's a little more clear eyed than
Francis was.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, you know, it's an interesting thing too. I raised Catholic,
a former alter but you know, my experience a great one.
I went to Catholic school for until I was sixteen
years old. You know, the scandal that would later erupt
and plague the church for years. It's horrible to see
so many of those stories. But I kind of hate

(06:02):
the fact that America has arrived at a place, if
not the entire world. And I don't know what your
upbringing was like where you just bring up the Catholic
Church and there's a media but dump pump. It's like
all that must mean A B and C. No. I
don't want the Catholic Church to be in any danger,
is my point. And I feel like it is under

(06:24):
siege and has been for a long time. You know,
I think there are plenty of Americans whose experience was
not like those horrible ones that take center stage. Mine was.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
You're exactly right, and it is. It is certainly something
that we don't need to run away from. I'm fully
willing to admit that that's a dark spot and a
bad thing for the church. But sure, you're exactly right.
You know, we're getting to this point. I remember when
I was a kid, you know, we would talk about

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living in the Bible Belt, you know, minority as a Catholic,
and we would have all of these different theological arguments
about why one church believes one thing versus the other.
And I want to get to a place again where
we are secure enough, we live in a peaceful, pure order,
enough that we can quabble, quibble about our differences here. Yeah,

(07:22):
as a matter of Christianity, but you know, we need
to stand together as Christians and understand that all Christians
of good faith, who are all speaking the truth, we're
going to be we're going to need to come together
and put those differences aside, or we're going to lose

(07:42):
the ability to stand up and speak the truth, at
least on the legal level.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's gy. I love hearing what you said too about
being younger and having the questions. I felt like I
had so many questions about that too, trying to susce
out the difference. Okay, what's the difference in that church
versus our church? It seemed in some cases like the
nuances could be very subtle and just having open, comfortable
theological conversations. So I love that you said that. And

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again we're on with Teddy Pierce, author of Dethrone, Davos
Save America, writer, speaker, political commentator. I'm comfortable enough with
you now at this point. Fourth grader question for it,
total fourth grader question for you, Teddy, if you don't
mind how much of what a pope says and to

(08:32):
clear outside of the church, how much does it really
affect America? If the pope speaks and says this is
my thought, right, this is my feeling, and this is
God's word. Okay, in the church, it'll reverberate. But how
much can a pope affect America.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know, there have been I think we have a
couple of different historical records to indicate how much that
is going to affect us. Really, when the Pope speaks that,
there is a very narrow, very very narrow context in
which he speaks ex cathedra and speaks for doctrine, and

(09:12):
that applies to all Catholics, you know. And so when
when Francis put out lidauto see about really trying to
understand the climate and speak about that in a doctrinal
way or how those relate together, you know, did very
little to actually impact any sort of climate things that

(09:34):
we did here here in America. And so I think
that really it's important from a you know, from a
religious standpoint to take for Catholics to take seriously, you know,
American Catholics to take what the Pope says seriously and
vet that out. You know. There there were plenty of

(09:56):
times where Francis would say something again try trying to evangelize,
trying to reach out to the secular world and thinking
that he's having a good faith conversation with people who
are not having a good faith conversation in return. That
was one of the really frustrating parts, yes, for conservative
Catholics in this country, but ultimately, you know that becomes

(10:18):
a personal frustration and a personal religious struggle for conservative Christians.
But you see that it really doesn't have certainly long
lasting policy impacts on the American populace and our laws,
which I think in many ways is good insofar as
we are aligned on the truth, which our government should

(10:39):
be aligned on seeking justice and the truth through our laws.
There's a lot of overlap, but you know, it's not
like a one for one.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Crossover, and I think America's got to get to a
point where they're able to tell the difference, perhaps just
to the left specific specifically the difference between conservatives and
traditional lists. I think they have a real struggle with that.
I'm struggling with saying it. Traditionalists, they really struggle. There's

(11:09):
a difference between It's slight, but traditionalists too, I just
don't think they see a difference there. They see conservative
and they think past. They think stuck in nineteen fifty two.
That's what that report you're stuck in, especially as it
pertains to church. That's got to change too. I think

(11:30):
I think.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You're right, and it's a narrow road to walk. And
I think you're really opening up that cultural divide that
is becoming a chasm in this country between this conservatism
as painted as the Handmaid's Tale, yeah, and the only alternative, right,

(11:51):
there's no other where, just in this false binary. It's
a you know, the false binary between Handmaid's Tale Christian
THEOC or this completely morally relative progressivism that's going to
throw all morals and all tradition out and we're going
to march into the brave new world.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
But it's easy if you're waging a psyop and you're
waging fifth generation warfare on a country, Creating these false
dichotomies is exactly what you would do. And then that
pulls anybody who's left of center or even slightly right
of center over to the progressive way of thinking because
they think the alternative is so bad. And we're about

(12:36):
to see a major demographic snapback as as Gen Z
gets older and as the boomer generation gets older as well,
we're going to see just a I believe in the
next decade, we're going to see those huge demographic changes
in the way people think and in ideology and in

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rejecting the false dichotomy, and we've got to be there
to have a positive vision and to speak the truth
in order for the truth to prevail in the end.