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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now we get ready for our I want to
say our weekly check in with Attorney Norm Pattison, but
I guess I'm forced to say our final check in
with Attorney Norm pass.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh yeah, I think it's time, and I want to
thank you and your listeners for being so kind to
have me. How long have we been doing this city?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You know, I thought I wondered the same thing. I
remember one Chris is December, I was getting ready for
my holiday break and you and I had hatched. We
were talking about I floated it by you, and You're like,
that does sound good, and it's just so long ago.
I mean I was married and I've been divorced now
four or five years, and I mean I remember we
(00:41):
were all in the room that Christmas tree was there,
and I'd say six years, seven years.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
At least, Yeah, at least. But in any case, you know,
I you know, I was doing podcasting for a while.
You know, along the way, I've had newspaper columns, I
did a brief radio show, I've done podcasting, I've done
this with you, and every now and then I just
kind of reach a point where I'm thinking I'm saying
the same thing over and over again it's time to
step back, group and reassess. And part of it, I think,
(01:10):
for me, is driven by the politics of our time,
which are just so bitter and make no sense. And
I don't really have an answer. But what I do
have our commitments that I need to or you know,
commitments to my clients and to my family and whatnot.
And you know, we had my wife had some surgery
not long ago, and in the course of recovering from that,
(01:30):
and she's fine, by the way, and in the course
of recovering from that, I thought, you know what am
I spending my time in the last four or five
years have been such a blur running around the country
after this case or that, And the things that are
important to me are our family and obviously my vocation
and running my mouth has been an avocation. And so
I think that I'm going to take some time and
(01:50):
reassess whether I re emerge in another you know, talking
head phenomena. You know that's probably likely some days somewhere,
but not anytime soon. So just thank you. It's been
a lot of fun. I've enjoyed getting to know you.
And one of the biggest thrills is when somebody will
stop on the street and say they enjoyed listening to
(02:11):
Vinny and me as well. And you know, I'll miss
that and I'll miss you, and I want to thank
you for your generosity.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Failing kind, you leave a gaping hole in the show.
I mean, I don't want to make it feel bad,
but you know, it's a It's my favorite segment on
the show and gave the show a little bit of
credibility every once in a while. I took some hits
for you, but I mean that's the nature of the
beast considering some of the cases you take. You know,
we're both New Haven guys. I'm gonna I'm gonna miss
(02:43):
it terribly. I do have to tell you, I don't
know how connected we got over the years. I like
to think in a lot of ways quite a bit
because norm I hate to break it to you, totally.
I totally felt it in the air totally months ago.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, how did you what did you know?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You said that you're totally mad man.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I should not be I should not be playing I
better not be playing poker with many.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah. Well, I don't know about that. But the final
when you you said, uh, oh, are you on vacation?
Or something. You're like, we'll regroup on uh, And you
gave me some Friday in August. I'm like, jeez, that's
three weeks from now. Norm usually doesn't like to skip
one week. So that was like the tipping point. But
(03:29):
long before that, not to make you question yourself, but
last handful of segments we did with you, there was
just an air about sometimes I give it off too
of I don't know if I want to keep you know,
I feel like I'm just talking into a void here,
and this is getting repetitious and not gratifying it. It
(03:50):
was palpable, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, that's what I didn't want to bring that out
of you because I related to it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I relate to it well. The last three weeks. I mean,
let me tell you something. Grandparents to six children age
five and under, and we decided we'd spend a few
weeks together, all of us in one house. Oh my gosh,
you know, I you know, that was that was quite
the ordeal. It's great to be a grandpa, but man,
(04:18):
making human beings out of the chaotic mess of infancy,
toddler and young and young childhood is a lot of work.
And I give my kids credit. I'm not sure I
was up to the task, but it was great to
be with family. And you know, that's one of the
things that I'll be doing a little bit more, you know.
I mean, I continue to obtain a heavy caseload in
a busy world professional life, but you've got a time
(04:38):
find gotta find time for family, and that's what I'm
going to be doing. Thank you very much to you
and to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, no, thank you for coming on and doing the
show deeming me worthy. You know you may not know
this norm but one day, very early on. I don't
think you and I ever talked about this, but when
you first started doing the show, and I'll just let
you do your thing, you know, there was and often
a lot of back and forth. But I spied on
your Facebook page during one of the times that you
(05:06):
had it off because over the course of all these years,
you know what you would do, I'm off social media forever,
I tell you, yeah, and then you would just come
back on. But I remember once a very respectable, high
profile gentleman in New Haven questioned you right on your page.
(05:28):
You know, I'm not friends with him on Facebook, but
I became friends with him on Facebook thanks to you,
but he questioned, what are you going on that stupid
guy show for? Yeah? He you know, and he's got
you know, he's a smart, successful, talented, high profile guy
new Haven. Your response was quite kind because you just
(05:49):
wrote I like Vinnie and I I think I might
have hit that guy up as a response like and
said something, you know, I'm sorry you feel that way,
because then we since went back and forth and we
were friends, at least briefly on Facebook. I think ultimately
he probably wound up. He's a lib. He wound up
(06:09):
dumping it in he dumping me again. But I remember
thinking you liked me like I didn't think Norm liked me.
I thought you liked doing a segment, and it was
I just felt, you know, uh, it was kind of you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You as a as a breath of fresh air. Every
now and then, you know, I don't get to see
much television. It's because the way it is. It's not
that i'm so it's not that I don't like it,
but I'm just not around enough. But every now and
then I'll have something on in the morning and I'll
catch like a segment or a tease for one of
your movie reviews or and I'm thinking, man, I want
to go to that movie dead guy. You see you
(06:43):
see dead people, you know, and so keep doing what
you're doing. You bring joy to a lot of people's life.
I'm smiling ear to ear talking to you, and I'm
gonna miss you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, thank you, miss you too, Uh, Norm pattis things
so much for coming on, Thanks for all these years.
And when you you know, if you're feeling a return
is in the air, a new season. You know, we
could just act the HBO way, this is probably a
lost on you and just act like it hasn't been
an x amount of years and be like a new
season is coming. Whenever you want to come back, the
door is open.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Thank you, Vinnie, thank you, you will.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Thank you. We'll obviously we'll stay in touch via tacks,
et cetera, et cetera. I don't want to get too
melancholy right now, but that's a staggering blow to the show,
to my psyche, and I do have abandonment issues. That's
actually something I really do have. I'm going to try
not to day this is the latest one, but I
actually do have abandonment issues. I'm going to go right
(07:35):
now to nurture them, and we'll be back
Right now we get ready for our I want to
say our weekly check in with Attorney Norm Pattison, but
I guess I'm forced to say our final check in
with Attorney Norm pass.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh yeah, I think it's time, and I want to
thank you and your listeners for being so kind to
have me. How long have we been doing this city?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You know, I thought I wondered the same thing. I
remember one Chris is December, I was getting ready for
my holiday break and you and I had hatched. We
were talking about I floated it by you, and You're like,
that does sound good, and it's just so long ago.
I mean I was married and I've been divorced now
four or five years, and I mean I remember we
(00:41):
were all in the room that Christmas tree was there,
and I'd say six years, seven years.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
At least, Yeah, at least. But in any case, you know,
I you know, I was doing podcasting for a while.
You know, along the way, I've had newspaper columns, I
did a brief radio show, I've done podcasting, I've done
this with you, and every now and then I just
kind of reach a point where I'm thinking I'm saying
the same thing over and over again it's time to
step back, group and reassess. And part of it, I think,
(01:10):
for me, is driven by the politics of our time,
which are just so bitter and make no sense. And
I don't really have an answer. But what I do
have our commitments that I need to or you know,
commitments to my clients and to my family and whatnot.
And you know, we had my wife had some surgery
not long ago, and in the course of recovering from that,
(01:30):
and she's fine, by the way, and in the course
of recovering from that, I thought, you know what am
I spending my time in the last four or five
years have been such a blur running around the country
after this case or that, And the things that are
important to me are our family and obviously my vocation
and running my mouth has been an avocation. And so
I think that I'm going to take some time and
(01:50):
reassess whether I re emerge in another you know, talking
head phenomena. You know that's probably likely some days somewhere,
but not anytime soon. So just thank you. It's been
a lot of fun. I've enjoyed getting to know you.
And one of the biggest thrills is when somebody will
stop on the street and say they enjoyed listening to
(02:11):
Vinny and me as well. And you know, I'll miss
that and I'll miss you, and I want to thank
you for your generosity.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Failing kind, you leave a gaping hole in the show.
I mean, I don't want to make it feel bad,
but you know, it's a It's my favorite segment on
the show and gave the show a little bit of
credibility every once in a while. I took some hits
for you, but I mean that's the nature of the
beast considering some of the cases you take. You know,
we're both New Haven guys. I'm gonna I'm gonna miss
(02:43):
it terribly. I do have to tell you, I don't
know how connected we got over the years. I like
to think in a lot of ways quite a bit
because norm I hate to break it to you, totally.
I totally felt it in the air totally months ago.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, how did you what did you know?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You said that you're totally mad man.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I should not be I should not be playing I
better not be playing poker with many.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah. Well, I don't know about that. But the final
when you you said, uh, oh, are you on vacation?
Or something. You're like, we'll regroup on uh, And you
gave me some Friday in August. I'm like, jeez, that's
three weeks from now. Norm usually doesn't like to skip
one week. So that was like the tipping point. But
(03:29):
long before that, not to make you question yourself, but
last handful of segments we did with you, there was
just an air about sometimes I give it off too
of I don't know if I want to keep you know,
I feel like I'm just talking into a void here,
and this is getting repetitious and not gratifying it. It
(03:50):
was palpable, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, that's what I didn't want to bring that out
of you because I related to it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I relate to it well. The last three weeks. I mean,
let me tell you something. Grandparents to six children age
five and under, and we decided we'd spend a few
weeks together, all of us in one house. Oh my gosh,
you know, I you know, that was that was quite
the ordeal. It's great to be a grandpa, but man,
(04:18):
making human beings out of the chaotic mess of infancy,
toddler and young and young childhood is a lot of work.
And I give my kids credit. I'm not sure I
was up to the task, but it was great to
be with family. And you know, that's one of the
things that I'll be doing a little bit more, you know.
I mean, I continue to obtain a heavy caseload in
a busy world professional life, but you've got a time
(04:38):
find gotta find time for family, and that's what I'm
going to be doing. Thank you very much to you
and to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, no, thank you for coming on and doing the
show deeming me worthy. You know you may not know
this norm but one day, very early on. I don't
think you and I ever talked about this, but when
you first started doing the show, and I'll just let
you do your thing, you know, there was and often
a lot of back and forth. But I spied on
your Facebook page during one of the times that you
(05:06):
had it off because over the course of all these years,
you know what you would do, I'm off social media forever,
I tell you, yeah, and then you would just come
back on. But I remember once a very respectable, high
profile gentleman in New Haven questioned you right on your page.
(05:28):
You know, I'm not friends with him on Facebook, but
I became friends with him on Facebook thanks to you,
but he questioned, what are you going on that stupid
guy show for? Yeah? He you know, and he's got
you know, he's a smart, successful, talented, high profile guy
new Haven. Your response was quite kind because you just
(05:49):
wrote I like Vinnie and I I think I might
have hit that guy up as a response like and
said something, you know, I'm sorry you feel that way,
because then we since went back and forth and we
were friends, at least briefly on Facebook. I think ultimately
he probably wound up. He's a lib. He wound up
(06:09):
dumping it in he dumping me again. But I remember
thinking you liked me like I didn't think Norm liked me.
I thought you liked doing a segment, and it was
I just felt, you know, uh, it was kind of you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You as a as a breath of fresh air. Every
now and then, you know, I don't get to see
much television. It's because the way it is. It's not
that i'm so it's not that I don't like it,
but I'm just not around enough. But every now and
then I'll have something on in the morning and I'll
catch like a segment or a tease for one of
your movie reviews or and I'm thinking, man, I want
to go to that movie dead guy. You see you
(06:43):
see dead people, you know, and so keep doing what
you're doing. You bring joy to a lot of people's life.
I'm smiling ear to ear talking to you, and I'm
gonna miss you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, thank you, miss you too, Uh, Norm pattis things
so much for coming on, Thanks for all these years.
And when you you know, if you're feeling a return
is in the air, a new season. You know, we
could just act the HBO way, this is probably a
lost on you and just act like it hasn't been
an x amount of years and be like a new
season is coming. Whenever you want to come back, the
door is open.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Thank you, Vinnie, thank you, you will.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Thank you. We'll obviously we'll stay in touch via tacks,
et cetera, et cetera. I don't want to get too
melancholy right now, but that's a staggering blow to the show,
to my psyche, and I do have abandonment issues. That's
actually something I really do have. I'm going to try
not to day this is the latest one, but I
actually do have abandonment issues. I'm going to go right
(07:35):
now to nurture them, and we'll be back
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