Tyler Grey: From Iraq To On Set

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Going to the Project hotline right now. Welcoming to the show,
Tyler Gray, the actor and star of Seal Team, a
former Delta Force operator, the author of Forged in Chaos,
a Warrior's Origin Story. I appreciate you taking the time
to come on this morning. Thank you so much for

(00:20):
having me and the main thing we were looking to
talk about here or what caught might to There's lots
to catch one's attention on this press release, if you
will here as it pertains to Tyler Gray, but it
was the Trump's Iran strategy just redefined modern warfare. I've

(00:40):
been covering what's been going on in Iran for quite
some time, it seems, and the media was doing it
right along with me, the mainstream media. It seems like
the attention on Iran has kind of fallen away. And
yet Tyler, during that time that I was having guests

(01:01):
on my show to talk about how there's got to
be a regime change, nothing changes in Iran until I
amassed like a bit of a following from those either
living in Iran or right outside. It was really an
interesting development and they're tweets at the very least for

(01:23):
the last couple of weeks they remain alarming daily executions
Iran is they need a regime change more than ever.
So what exactly does it mean when our liaison writes
he can talk about Trump's Iran strategy and how it
just redefined modern warfare. What exactly what did I miss there?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think, really the I don't think he necessarily missed anything.
I think really what it was is, first of all, yes,
nothing one hundred percent. To your point, nothing is going
to change until the regime changes, and the regime is
doing the same thing that it's been doing for quite
some time, and you know they're not going to change

(02:11):
until those people are no longer in power. So I
think Trump's strategy, you know what happened with the attack
or or the the bombings, whatever you want to call it,
it was obviously it wasn't a regime change policy. What
it was was a policy where it was a very

(02:33):
strategic strike that allowed the US to essentially take out
another nation state's capability at least for you know, an
undetermined amount of time, and essentially do so without a

(02:53):
lot of without really any boots on the ground from
the US and with very little essentially, with such a
strategic strike that it showed our ability to intervene in,
you know, certain foreign foreign affairs without having a massive involvement,

(03:17):
and I think that was really the what was unique
about this strike.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You know, My concern as it pertains to Trump when
it comes to any world leader, any president of any country,
is he takes people at their word. And when it
comes to Iran and what's going on there right now,
there's this Miriam Rajavi, who's who's looking to get elected there.

(03:45):
It's an uphill battle. If you ask me, I'd love
to see it happen because I've been a you know,
I'm a fifty eight year old man, Tyler. I don't
know how old you are. I was in eighth grade
when the hostage crisis took place. It seems like around
you know, they've been a concern of mine. It feels
like the majority of my life. But it wasn't until

(04:05):
recently that I realized the Iranian people are no finn
When that hostage crisis went down, you know, it terrified them.
To the Iranian people too, they don't like who's been
leading them for decades. They want change, and I feel
like Trump will take this regime at their word and
they're not to be trusted. No, they're not.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I mean one thing that I learned, you know, from
being in the Middle East multiple times, in really anywhere,
but since we're talking about the Middle East, but you know, look,
the government no temperate than the US. The government is
not the people. And to assume that the any government

(04:49):
in any country represents the people to a large degree
is is just generally not true. And I think Iran
is no different.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And so.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I think, look, I think Trump to a degree, and
I'm not going to speak for him or his policies,
but look, I don't think there's any real trust in
that regime. I mean, they say, quite frankly, things that
are just not just not true, but they say things

(05:21):
that are literally absolutely ridiculous, and we know they're ridiculous.
They rarely speak any form of the truth and rarely
say anything that actually has a basis in reality. And
I think our government knows that, and the people that
are dealing with the Iranians know that, or the Iranian regime,

(05:41):
I should say no that, And so it comes down
to look, one thing that I was trying to say
is our government, I've seen it many times, is similar
to every government in the sense that you'll say one thing,
but behind the scenes you're doing another. So even if
you see certain things that are said by our administration
publicly about or on you know, behind the scenes, I'm

(06:06):
sure there's backdoor things happening all the time. So we
have to take everything in stride.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Oh yeah, and make no mistake, Tyler, I wasn't necessarily
a criticism of Trump. I would say that right to
him too, because I believe and he would probably agree
with that, because I believe the way he operates is
I'm going to take you at your word, and if
you prove yourself to be a liar, you're not going
to like what I do as a result. I think
that's just the matter of fact way he rolls. You know,

(06:34):
all I can do. There's a sitting president or you know,
a leader that I'm going to sit at the table with,
I'm going to strike a deal. If they don't hold
up their end of the bargain, then they're not going
to like what happens. And that's the way he rolls.
I wish we could play a more active role in
assisting with the regime change and Iran, just because I

(06:54):
want that threat off the table. It's dominated my life.
And like you said, when of the greatest lines I've heard,
I've got to give it up to Tyler Gray, who's
almo us right now? Is the government you know, more
often than that does not represent the people. You know,
I ran was a people I feared for decades until
I learned we're getting executed on a daily basis by

(07:17):
these lunatics. This baby sha this baby sha Is if
he comes into power, they remain a foreign in our
nation side for decades. It stays, it continues.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I mean a great example. You know, you look
at let's say North Korea as an example, and I mean,
obviously North Korea is led by a dictator, all these
different things. But if you do any kind of digging
or look at defectors from North Korea and listen to
them talk, again, it's the North Korean people are very

(07:52):
different by and large than or at least what they want,
what they deal with on a daily basis. And again,
I don't think honor most places is any different. I
think the biggest things and again, you know, I was
part of a you know, a war for lack of a
better term, that was a regime change in Iraq, and

(08:14):
I agree the regime needs to change. However, it's a
very very dirty, dangerous it's not easy to do. And
the problem I think that we have as a I
don't want to say as a country, but maybe as
a I don't know what the term is, but the military,

(08:34):
the US military is not designed for regime changes. It's
designed to win wars. And when you when you try
and remove a you know, a regime and install a
new one, it's it's really risky. It takes a lot
of time, and there's almost really no way to do
it without having a ground occupying force. And as soon

(08:58):
as you do put those boots on the grounds and
all the boots on the ground and all the accompany logistics,
you know, it's difficult not to create a forever war
in those scenarios, or at least a long proactive one.
And so it's it's just very dangerous, and I do
understand their hesitancy to do that.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah. Plus it also looks the optics to other countries
as all, you know, there's a loyalty here, you're playing
favorites here, You'll create enemies while doing it too.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, Yeah, And I mean, look, make no mistake. I
think the Iranian regime is bad and it should change,
but that's an Iranian issue. That's not a US issue.
It's it's you know, look us bombing them because you
know they're achieving in nuclear capability and threatening to destroy

(09:54):
another country as well as to US farm is one thing.
But taking out a regime because we say it's bad,
that would be like a foreign country hating Trump and
coming and occupying part of the US because they don't
like Trump. And it's like like I used to tell
the Iraqis when I was there, Hey, look if the

(10:15):
roles were reversed and you were in my country because
you hated you know, Bush at the time, I'm like,
I try and kill you too, you know what I mean,
I don't care what you're here. Get out. I was like,
I don't blame you for doing that. Like I get it.
We're cool with that, you know. And but there's other things.
But I just think that it's really something. I think

(10:36):
we should try and help the Iranian people, you know,
do what they want to do. But I think it's
very risky for US to get involved, and I think
it's overthrowing. It's none of our business to take it
up on ourselves to force a regime change without you know,

(10:57):
it should come from the Iranian people in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh yeah, well, and they're trying diligently right now. But
I mean as recently is yesterday to pro democracy activists
executed by the Iranian government. I mean, it's there's still
blood in that soil. There's been blood in that soil
for again, I say, for decades. Let me ask you

(11:20):
this though, really quickly, and again we'ren with Tyler Gray,
who now a former Delta Force operator, who now and
thanks for your service. It goes without saying, oh pleasure
now you know, playing Trent Sawyer on ceiling? How did
the and writing books? I mean, how did how did
this artistic side emerge? I would imagine it would when

(11:40):
you're in a Fox ol maybe you start thinking, you
know what, I'd like to play this character. I don't
know if I actually want to be him right now?
How did it happen? Man? Congratulations on all this success.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
No, thank you, And it's it's funny you said the
artistic thing, because I just had a guy that was,
you know, in the Special Operate and he went to
the three letter side and we were having this conversation
literally about art and how so many special operations people
you know, go to art after they get out. And
for me, I love telling stories. I just that's how

(12:16):
we learn about ourselves, as you know, that's where storytelling
comes from, is about informing humans, you know, teaching lessons
and all those things. So for me, when when I
got out, the one thing that I wanted to do
is try and go into Hollywood. Veteran and military stories
are going to be made whether we like it or not,
or a part of them or not. And so I said,

(12:38):
I want to go out there and try and shape
these stories about us in a more authentic way so
that you know what what's being put out there is
a more accurate and being wanted to inspire the next
generation of warriors and and really both you know, working
on the shows and the book is a part of that,

(13:01):
trying to inspire that next generation.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
And again the name of that book is Forged in Chaos,
a Warrior's Origin Story. It's available now. Actor and star
of Seal Team Tyler Gray, great stuff. I appreciate you
taking the time to come on and continued success