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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Zoe Tannis.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Vinie Penn Project. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm doing well, are you?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
The show Clue at the Palace Theater kicks off December sixteenth,
if I've got it right, right sixteenth through the eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right, So Zoe, I'm looking at your headshot, and
I think I've got a few years on you now. Clue.
Clue was a huge game in my house when I
was a kid. I did bring it back around for
my kids. I have a twenty two year old and
a nineteen year old. We used to have epic games
of Clue. Actually, when my kids were a little bit younger,
(00:38):
not not even all that far back in the pandemic,
we revisited Clue. Did you play it as a kid?
Did you play this game or did you just know
it as the show? I've never seen the show. I'm
intrigued by making Clue into a theatrical production, but first
I want to know if, Zoe Tannis, if you even
played it as a kid.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Of course I played it as a kid. I always
love playing Miss Garlett. My brother was Mister Green. My
parents liked to put up typically. My dad was Colonel Mustard.
I had a really hard time saying that word as
a kid, and I thought I was great at it.
But now that I'm getting older, I like to ask myself,
maybe they let me win. Yeah, But I loved playing Clue.
(01:18):
It was like one of my first introductions to board games.
And then whenever we did like a family game night,
usually I was requesting to play Clue because I just
loved wild three of it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So then it's kind of serendipitous. That's wild when I
revisited it with my kids all these years later with
the original board, like the board from my childhood, you know,
I'll beat up and everything. I think I realized trying
to explain the game to them and read and get
I played it incorrectly throughout my childhood, Like you've got
to be in the room where you're going to say
(01:50):
the murder went down to Yeah, And when I was
a kid, we just got in a room and said
it was Colonel Mustard. We would get theatrical Zoe. The
way we did it in my family was you had
to stand up and get theatrical and say like it
was Kernel Mustard, that sicksob with the This is the
(02:11):
way we had to do it like we were actually acute,
very knives out. We had to get theatrical. But I
didn't know it until I became a dad and was
playing with my kids. You got to be in the
room where it went down, where you're thinking it went down.
But you're exactly right. There was something so gratifying in
solving it. Does the show capture that is the audience
(02:32):
in on it all along or right along with you, like,
oh that too, did how does that go?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The audience is right along with you. We definitely capture
that exhilarating feeling. I think honestly, from the second you
hear any sounds in the show, before you even see
any people, there is a sound that goes off. You know,
oh my goodness, I'm in the world of Clue and
I do not know what's coming next. And the show
feels like you have hopped on a strain. You are
(02:59):
on board and the train keeps getting faster and faster
as you're trying to keep up, and it is a
load of fun. It's a lot of laughs, and it
is surely very very exhilarating. I'm not sure if you're
familiar with the movie, but the movie also kind of
captures that feel, and we take that and heighten it
even more so because it's a live so you're watching
(03:22):
this live experience. A lot of people try to figure
out who did it. I don't think I've met anyone
so far who knows exactly what's going to happen just
from watching.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You say to me, I don't know if you're familiar
with the movie. Like I said, I've got a few
years on you. I was a senior. I was a
senior in high school when that came out. Christopher Lloyd
in there is Professor Plum if I'm remembering correctly, because
he was my go to guys.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So Vette is the friend's maid. He works at Body Manner.
He is in on the secret with Wadsworth. He doesn't
expect the night to happen the way that it does.
There was an original plan and then there's what actually happened,
and pretty quickly in the show, what that thought was
going to happen goes awry, and so she's along for
(04:08):
the journey too. But what I love about her character
is that she is not a suspect. She is not
one of the guests at Body Manner. She knows Body manner.
She knows how to get around. She's is not expecting
the night to unfold the way that it did. So
Colleen Camp played her in the movie and did a
wonderful job. And it's been really fun to get to
(04:29):
play with what was happening in the movie and what
do I bring in the role myself. And there's there's
a lot of really great funny bits. We have certain
beloved lines from the movie, and then as it pertains
to just like what she adds to the atmosphere. I
think she adds a sense of knowing that the quot
that the audience can latch onto.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, you know, I don't, and I don't think my
kids have watched. I might have just seen it that
one time my senior year of high school. I remember
that the legendary man Con was in it. There were
big name stars in the In the film, you're playing
a character that's not part of the board game, right,
I don't remember any event in the board game.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
There's also a series of books where Missus White has
a little bit of certain other qualities to her that
they kind of split apart into different characters, and that's
where Eve comes from. She definitely is like a creative addition.
I think she's a really fun kind of like light
contrast to the rest of what's going on on the stage.
I love playing her. She's got this sense of structure,
(05:32):
I think because she knows what's going on and she
knows the house, but also when she gets surprised, it's
it's obvious, and so it's really exciting to get to
play her and get to play with the other suspects
on stage and bring this new character in front of
audiences around the United States and Canada. People have a
lot of questions about her, and I just I love
(05:54):
getting to add something new for people who are familiar
with the board games.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, I got to get out there with my kids.
Check it out. When you get to the palace here,
I would love that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Definitely say hi.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But before I let you go, Zoe, I did notice
in your credit another speaking of movies, one of my
favorites though not to disrespect Clue, but Heather's one of
my favorite movies ever. And I'm a big Broadway guy.
I see a couple of shows a year. You know,
I still haven't gotten out to that musical, and I
totally get how you could make that musical my daughter.
(06:27):
She's got the soundtrack. I don't know why she We
just saw The Outsiders. That was tremendous, by the way,
just BT doves, that was tremendous. Yeah. She even went
to see John Proctor as the villain. But that's played
to you. I'm sure you're aware of that one as well.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, that's also amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff going on right now.
But who are you in? Heather?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I was Heather macnamara. Honestly, the musical version that I
did was in a Bridge Erson.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, I see it. You're like, probably the most likable
Heather in Heathers is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, it's definitely the most likable Hunter. He's got this
beautiful song in the show called Lifeboat where she talks
about well, I guess it gets a little darker, but
you know what, Yeah, it's a great show. They just
revived it off Broadway, and I know that I've been
dying to see that production for sure. Yeah, honestly, I
would love to be in it. I feel like it
kind of relates back to Clue, you know, this concept
(07:22):
of murder and what happens next, but then they take
it a little bit in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, But I remember leaving that movie and loving
that movie, and my daughter says that the songs are fantastic,
and I always trust her. She said the same about
the Outsiders, and they were fantastic. But you know, Zoe Christian,
that line seven different schools and seven different states and
the only thing that changes is my locker combination. That's
(07:50):
great writing, right, is that in the show? Did that
make it into the show? That should be the name
of a song. He was so world weary, Christian Slater.
Had you watched a movie before you did that show?
Had you watched that movie?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I actually had not watched the movie. I was just
very familiar with Seeing Guy.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, oh it's a must yet.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I still haven't had to see the musical live. I
just we were able to get our hands on the
script and doing a bridged version for what we were
up to at my school, and it was awesome. It
was a great production that we put on, but we
did have to cut quite a lot in order to
make it work for our school production.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah. Oh, well, you while you're on the road, while
you're traveling with Clue one night, just open up the
laptop and watch Heather it's the original movie. It just
it holds up. It's a great movie, and it's Zoe Tannis.
She's coming to town with Clue. The show at the
Palace in Waterbury December sixteenth through the eighteenth. I'll be there.
I'm gonna I'm gonna force my kids. I'm just I'm
(08:50):
going to blackmail.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Them to you know what, very very fittic for the show.
And I think that you'll really enjoy it, just like
how you enjoy Heather's. That's the translation of what Clue
from the board game to the movie to the show
that we've put on with our amazing writer Sandy Rustin
and director Katie Hushion. I think you'll leave laughing. I
(09:12):
think you'll leave with that same sense of love that
you've got for Heathers after seeing Clue. It really is
that kind of sense of nostalgia that I'm hearing in
your voice.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yes, I'm a very nostalgic guy. You detected that, Joey.
I've enjoyed our chat and safe travels, and we'll see
you when you get to Connecticut with Clue.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Thank you so much for having me. I enjoyed our
conversation
Zoe Tannis.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Vinie Penn Project. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm doing well, are you?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
The show Clue at the Palace Theater kicks off December sixteenth,
if I've got it right, right sixteenth through the eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right, So Zoe, I'm looking at your headshot, and
I think I've got a few years on you now. Clue.
Clue was a huge game in my house when I
was a kid. I did bring it back around for
my kids. I have a twenty two year old and
a nineteen year old. We used to have epic games
of Clue. Actually, when my kids were a little bit younger,
(00:38):
not not even all that far back in the pandemic,
we revisited Clue. Did you play it as a kid?
Did you play this game or did you just know
it as the show? I've never seen the show. I'm
intrigued by making Clue into a theatrical production, but first
I want to know if, Zoe Tannis, if you even
played it as a kid.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Of course I played it as a kid. I always
love playing Miss Garlett. My brother was Mister Green. My
parents liked to put up typically. My dad was Colonel Mustard.
I had a really hard time saying that word as
a kid, and I thought I was great at it.
But now that I'm getting older, I like to ask myself,
maybe they let me win. Yeah, But I loved playing Clue.
(01:18):
It was like one of my first introductions to board games.
And then whenever we did like a family game night,
usually I was requesting to play Clue because I just
loved wild three of it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So then it's kind of serendipitous. That's wild when I
revisited it with my kids all these years later with
the original board, like the board from my childhood, you know,
I'll beat up and everything. I think I realized trying
to explain the game to them and read and get
I played it incorrectly throughout my childhood, Like you've got
to be in the room where you're going to say
(01:50):
the murder went down to Yeah, And when I was
a kid, we just got in a room and said
it was Colonel Mustard. We would get theatrical Zoe. The
way we did it in my family was you had
to stand up and get theatrical and say like it
was Kernel Mustard, that sicksob with the This is the
(02:11):
way we had to do it like we were actually acute,
very knives out. We had to get theatrical. But I
didn't know it until I became a dad and was
playing with my kids. You got to be in the
room where it went down, where you're thinking it went down.
But you're exactly right. There was something so gratifying in
solving it. Does the show capture that is the audience
(02:32):
in on it all along or right along with you, like,
oh that too, did how does that go?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The audience is right along with you. We definitely capture
that exhilarating feeling. I think honestly, from the second you
hear any sounds in the show, before you even see
any people, there is a sound that goes off. You know,
oh my goodness, I'm in the world of Clue and
I do not know what's coming next. And the show
feels like you have hopped on a strain. You are
(02:59):
on board and the train keeps getting faster and faster
as you're trying to keep up, and it is a
load of fun. It's a lot of laughs, and it
is surely very very exhilarating. I'm not sure if you're
familiar with the movie, but the movie also kind of
captures that feel, and we take that and heighten it
even more so because it's a live so you're watching
(03:22):
this live experience. A lot of people try to figure
out who did it. I don't think I've met anyone
so far who knows exactly what's going to happen just
from watching.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You say to me, I don't know if you're familiar
with the movie. Like I said, I've got a few
years on you. I was a senior. I was a
senior in high school when that came out. Christopher Lloyd
in there is Professor Plum if I'm remembering correctly, because
he was my go to guys.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So Vette is the friend's maid. He works at Body Manner.
He is in on the secret with Wadsworth. He doesn't
expect the night to happen the way that it does.
There was an original plan and then there's what actually happened,
and pretty quickly in the show, what that thought was
going to happen goes awry, and so she's along for
(04:08):
the journey too. But what I love about her character
is that she is not a suspect. She is not
one of the guests at Body Manner. She knows Body manner.
She knows how to get around. She's is not expecting
the night to unfold the way that it did. So
Colleen Camp played her in the movie and did a
wonderful job. And it's been really fun to get to
(04:29):
play with what was happening in the movie and what
do I bring in the role myself. And there's there's
a lot of really great funny bits. We have certain
beloved lines from the movie, and then as it pertains
to just like what she adds to the atmosphere. I
think she adds a sense of knowing that the quot
that the audience can latch onto.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, you know, I don't, and I don't think my
kids have watched. I might have just seen it that
one time my senior year of high school. I remember
that the legendary man Con was in it. There were
big name stars in the In the film, you're playing
a character that's not part of the board game, right,
I don't remember any event in the board game.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
There's also a series of books where Missus White has
a little bit of certain other qualities to her that
they kind of split apart into different characters, and that's
where Eve comes from. She definitely is like a creative addition.
I think she's a really fun kind of like light
contrast to the rest of what's going on on the stage.
I love playing her. She's got this sense of structure,
(05:32):
I think because she knows what's going on and she
knows the house, but also when she gets surprised, it's
it's obvious, and so it's really exciting to get to
play her and get to play with the other suspects
on stage and bring this new character in front of
audiences around the United States and Canada. People have a
lot of questions about her, and I just I love
(05:54):
getting to add something new for people who are familiar
with the board games.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, I got to get out there with my kids.
Check it out. When you get to the palace here,
I would love that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Definitely say hi.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But before I let you go, Zoe, I did notice
in your credit another speaking of movies, one of my
favorites though not to disrespect Clue, but Heather's one of
my favorite movies ever. And I'm a big Broadway guy.
I see a couple of shows a year. You know,
I still haven't gotten out to that musical, and I
totally get how you could make that musical my daughter.
(06:27):
She's got the soundtrack. I don't know why she We
just saw The Outsiders. That was tremendous, by the way,
just BT doves, that was tremendous. Yeah. She even went
to see John Proctor as the villain. But that's played
to you. I'm sure you're aware of that one as well.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, that's also amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff going on right now.
But who are you in? Heather?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I was Heather macnamara. Honestly, the musical version that I
did was in a Bridge Erson.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, I see it. You're like, probably the most likable
Heather in Heathers is.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, it's definitely the most likable Hunter. He's got this
beautiful song in the show called Lifeboat where she talks
about well, I guess it gets a little darker, but
you know what, Yeah, it's a great show. They just
revived it off Broadway, and I know that I've been
dying to see that production for sure. Yeah, honestly, I
would love to be in it. I feel like it
kind of relates back to Clue, you know, this concept
(07:22):
of murder and what happens next, but then they take
it a little bit in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, But I remember leaving that movie and loving
that movie, and my daughter says that the songs are fantastic,
and I always trust her. She said the same about
the Outsiders, and they were fantastic. But you know, Zoe Christian,
that line seven different schools and seven different states and
the only thing that changes is my locker combination. That's
(07:50):
great writing, right, is that in the show? Did that
make it into the show? That should be the name
of a song. He was so world weary, Christian Slater.
Had you watched a movie before you did that show?
Had you watched that movie?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I actually had not watched the movie. I was just
very familiar with Seeing Guy.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, oh it's a must yet.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I still haven't had to see the musical live. I
just we were able to get our hands on the
script and doing a bridged version for what we were
up to at my school, and it was awesome. It
was a great production that we put on, but we
did have to cut quite a lot in order to
make it work for our school production.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah. Oh, well, you while you're on the road, while
you're traveling with Clue one night, just open up the
laptop and watch Heather it's the original movie. It just
it holds up. It's a great movie, and it's Zoe Tannis.
She's coming to town with Clue. The show at the
Palace in Waterbury December sixteenth through the eighteenth. I'll be there.
I'm gonna I'm gonna force my kids. I'm just I'm
(08:50):
going to blackmail.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Them to you know what, very very fittic for the show.
And I think that you'll really enjoy it, just like
how you enjoy Heather's. That's the translation of what Clue
from the board game to the movie to the show
that we've put on with our amazing writer Sandy Rustin
and director Katie Hushion. I think you'll leave laughing. I
(09:12):
think you'll leave with that same sense of love that
you've got for Heathers after seeing Clue. It really is
that kind of sense of nostalgia that I'm hearing in
your voice.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yes, I'm a very nostalgic guy. You detected that, Joey.
I've enjoyed our chat and safe travels, and we'll see
you when you get to Connecticut with Clue.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Thank you so much for having me. I enjoyed our
conversation
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