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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm out here at the infamous Gallery Furniture and that
This is the beginning of my newest podcast featuring mattress Math.
It's entitled The Life of mattress Man From Baby to
Betting to Blessing and here's my first episode. So Mac,
I just want to thank you first off for holding
that beautiful vigil the other night. I know, you know,
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people who have been devastated, maybe lost a child in
the Hill Country flooding on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
How did that all come to be?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, you know, I attend the church there right across
from dyke In Park at Annunciation, and my pastor, Father Felix,
really good guy, a very holy man, which I certainly
am not, and so I asked him, cou we have
a prayer, vigil and a mass for the pray for
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the people that died and all the families that are affected.
He said, sure, So we did it and it was
it was great because you know, we get so caught
up in these other things. And one of the things
he said during the homily was, you know, quite often
when somebody loses a loved one, we say all you
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can do is pray. And Father Peele said, what we
should say is the best thing you can do is pray.
So I thought that was very good, That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, I just wanted to share with you. I've been struggling.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We know a family, a precious family, that lost a child.
And on the fourth of July, we were in Montana
and I got a text from my son that this
little girl, she's nine years old, is gone. They can't
find her, and I'm thinking, what is going on? Precious
little girl. They thought she'd never be recovered. You know,
the reports are just the devastation, the silt, it's just unbelievable. Well,
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yesterday I got word that they found this little girl,
and the way it happened was purely miraculous. One of
the recovery ladies was on a horse and she heard
they were twenty miles away from Camp Mystic. She heard
another horse kneeing, and she's like looking around. While she's
looking for that other horse, she sees a statue pointing
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for her to look down. She looks down in all
this wreckage and sees this little arm waits for the
recovery crew to come, and there was this precious little girl.
Harris County Sheriff's bringing her home today, and so it's
so sad, but the efforts of these recovery volunteers, it's
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just been miraculous. And so here's a little girl who
was found and she will at least have closure, her
family will get to say goodbye to her and.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
At some point this week.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So I just wanted to share with that that's their story.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The story of.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
This little girl will forever be in their hearts and
minds and for so many people who knew her. But
I wanted to ask you. You have become such a
worldwide figure. I thought for our first episode, I wanted
to ask you about your childhood because it's made you
the man you are today. And I thought the first
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question was, do you have a memory, whether it's good
or bad, like your most profound memory when you were
a child, whether it's two or four or nine, that
you think maybe got you to where you are today.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, I think that my grandfather, on my mother's side,
they lived in Florence, Alabama. In fact, my grandfather built
the Catholic church there and so it was a little
town called Saint Florent which was a suburb of Florence, Alabama.
And he was like six foot four, A giant of
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a man, worked all the time, and I think I
learned to work ethic from him. But probably the thing
I can remember the most was he was kind of
old and gruff, and we'd become visit, you know, and
me and several of my brothers and sisters were probably
hellions running the whole round. Probably didn't make it real happy.
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And one night we're having dinneries they had jello there,
he says passially that shaky shaky boy, so was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
How many siblings do you have?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Six?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Wow? And where are you in the lineup? Where are
you in the birth order?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm second, my brother George unfortunately deceased, and all the
rest of us are doing well.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And so you think it was grandpa.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And I know I'm a gigi, so I know that
the influence of grandparents can have on their grandkids.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah. Yeah, he had had quite an influence on me
as far as a work ethic, because he worked really
hard and was a good guy, and he gave back
to the community. And I learned that from my father's
side as well, but mainly from him.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's what I was going to ask you next.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You've got this incredible inclination to give back. I know,
something happens, it's a tragedy, and your brain starts thinking,
what can I do to help?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Was that grandpa was.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Anything that happened in your life, maybe that made you say,
you know what I call service.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
My father was a Protestant and my mother converted into Catholicism,
and you know, we went to church every week for
a time I was two years old. At the time
I was eighteen, went to college, and those Catholic values
really helped me. My father was the ultimate giver. He'd
give when he didn't have to give. And I never
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forget one time we were playing a little baseball league
and one of the parents said to my father, the
only sponsor of the league, because your boys aren't and
he said, no, I sponsored because I'm trying to help
all these boys. My father was a legendary giver. Never forget.
He founded the first Catholic high school in East Dallas,
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and the first graduating class was two years ahead of me.
There was a guy in there named Jim Rager who
was a good football player. My father loved football, so
he helped Jim Reager get a scholarship to Dartmouth College.
And that's a big deal, you know, Ivy League and
all that. So Jim went at the first semester and
did well, then came home for Christmas break and his
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parents didn't have the money to send him back to Dartmouth.
So he's going to miss out on this Ivy League
education and miss out on all these things. Had no
way to get back up there. My father was scared
the death of flying, so he put him in the
car and drove him all the way up there. And
Jim ended up being retiring as a vice chairman of
the Royal Bank of Canada. And he tells that story
all the time. That's who my father was. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know your father sold me a bed. Did any
day that you ran a marathon?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
My husband and I up, we came to Gallery Furniture
in solidarity with you, and your dad was there and
sold me the most beautiful king's size bed my daughter has.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The day I tried to run a marathon and you were.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Here picking up the trash when you were done with
the run. I remember that day.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Was there any were there moments of Mattress Mac being
a scoundrel.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
When you were a little kid? Well, did you have
a tendency to be more of a a goodie two.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Shoes, probably Horacecoundrel goody two shoes. We went to the
local grocery store in the neighborhood where we lived, and
back then they had those coke bottles and you could
redeem them for five cents of peace. And so I
took two out of the grocery store, went back into
renamed the money. My mother saw me. Now I caught
hell for that. Look that broke me.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That was something going on in your mind. Right, You're
going if I do this, then I can make this.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And there you wasn't going for that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
What about your teachers?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
How were you any teachers that you recollect that really
made an imp Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I had a teacher when you know, I went to
that Dominican High school at Catholic High School, and there
was a guy named mister Hines. He was a speech teacher,
and so we we all had to take speech class.
And I was afraid to go up there and say
my name is Jim mcaveil blob blah blah. I couldn't
get those words out. But he nurtured and coached me
for two years and taught me how to do speeches Now,
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I do speeches all over the country. So he had
a lasting impact on my life. Taught me how to
be a public speaker, and people are amazed I can
do all that. Well, it all goes back to him.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, what did he do that taught you how to
overcome that fear. I'll bring kids up to the station
and I'll take the loudest one in the group and
put them behind the microphone silence. They're petrified. So how
did he get you to be the point where you're
really comfortable in sharing your story and your message.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think it was just, you know, inch by inch thing,
say a word, say your name. The next time, say
a sentence, and say a couple of paragraphs. So that
was type of thing. And then that encouraged me to
go on and join Toastmasters after high school and that
was a big help too.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So during high school, did you ever do presentations? What
was your favorite study, your favorite class, your side hustle
that you did in addition to academics.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh, I was just sports. I played football and baseball.
That was my side hustle. That's what we did all
the time. We had my brother and I had a
great childhood and we had some fast cars. We had
a good time.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What about academics, how were you in your class?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
That was pretty good? That was pretty good. You know,
I wasn't exceptional. I didn't work at it as hard
as I probably should have, but I was. You know,
my high school education really was a formative for my
whole life. And I took Latin for three years and
that really helped.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's it now, that was offered as a class in
your Catholic school.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Right right. Latin killed the Roman dead as dead can be.
Latin killed Romana's now is killing me now, you.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Know that's right now.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
For kids who are watching this, what advice you know,
and they're struggling in school.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
They've got things that you didn't.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Have, like iPads and video games and so many distractions.
You know, they're not having the time to study Latin
because they're so lured by video games.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What would you say to kids today.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Think back at your own childhood, Like the best advice
you could.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Give, best advice I could be is to.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Kids living in today's world with social media.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
First of all, I'd turn that stuff off as much
as possible because it's so so disruptive. And I would
find a class you really like, the two or three classes,
and try to excel in them. You know, try to
be the best you can be at whatever you're doing.
And if you do that, then you're going to have
a big time future. If not, you're going to struggle.
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So I think getting a great education is important and
finding something you like is important. Find something you like
to do and it may not lead to college, Maybe
it'll lead to a job as a welder, as a plumber,
as an electrician, as a construction guy, as they furnisure salesman.
Find something you like to do and learn a lot
about that craft.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And then one other question. You had a great support
system your siblings, your mom, your dad, You've got grandparents
who loved you and supported you. Some kids don't have that.
And I know you know some kids who don't have
that situation. Yeah, we've spoken about it. How would you
talk to those kids who didn't have the kind of
upbringing that you had that they can still be a success.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I just give him a mentor, you know, that's what
they need as a mentor more than anything else. And
they need somebody to help mongway come around here.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yere's my guy say of Miss davia life, sweetie?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Tell him what you learned here from me?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Work?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
His life's great into therapy and if you want to
do anything in life, you have to get up, go
to work and make some of them out of your life.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And how are you doing that? First of all, how
old are you, honey?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I'm twelve, okay?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And how did you meet Mattress?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Matt I walked in here one day and I like
to talk a lot, so we started talking.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And so you just walked in and Max sitting at
the front desk like he always says.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What was the first thing you said to him?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
How are you? I think it was a while ago.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And do you remember when? How did he get you
to engage? Did he say, look, kid, I'm too busy,
go on home.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
He's here, he's he responded back, and he asked my name,
and then we started.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Talking and so, oh were you then? Eight eight and
a half? Wow?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So you just come in, you hang out summertimes. You're
here working with Mac, yes, ma'am, and learning and what's
the greatest I'm asking Mattress Mac about his childhood and
he seemed to have a pretty good childhood. And some
kids don't have all the wonderful mentors that he did Grandpa,
mom and dad. And but yet you can still be
a success. What have you learned from Mattress Mac?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I have learned that.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
That by watching him, you know, and talking to.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Him, the customers are like the most important thing and
the best thing you can ever do in life is fine.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's find a job you love to do. You'll never
have to work. Dare in your life?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Amen?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's excellently. And what do you want to do when
you grow up?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I want to own my own interest. Are you going
to put me out of business? He's gonna put me
out of business?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That is excellent, And that would be a good thing.
You know what, that would be a good thing. That
is excellent. I'm so glad Mac brought you into our story.
I'm doing a podcast with Mac about his life and
how he is such a blessing to Houston And how
would you tell Houston, Like, what would you say about.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Mac if I were to say? Is this guy a
blessing to our city?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Just going back and I love being on like the
internet and all the research I've done and just looking
at mister Mac.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
He's amazing for Houston, like doing what Hurricane Harvey.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
He was the only person in Houston that opened up
the doors to the his for interest and let everyone
in here, no charge, no anything, pretty food and everything.
And I think we and we.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Need more people like him everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And you could be like him. Yeah right, and I
know that's what your goal is.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, you two, thank you so much for joining me
on our first episode. Episode is we did deep into
Mattress Max's life and find out what makes this guy
tick because without you, Houston would not be the city
that it is.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So Mac, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And next episode you are free to join us at
any time with any new discoveries that you've learned. But
I'd like to dig a little deeper into your life
and find out about your sports obsession.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Could we say it's an obsession? I would say so, yeah,
it's an obsession. Thank you, Mac, and thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Love, Thanks Danie,