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August 29, 2025 • 13 mins
We learn more about working for a National Park, talk home fires, and a trip to Colorado!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, welcome to the Minnesota Goodbye. It's the last one
that I'm gonna be on for next week because I'll
be on vacation, leaving later today and to go to Colorado.
And then I'm gonna spend the weekend like you know,
maybe like on the treadmill, relaxing, getting some like last
minute cardio stuff in sure Carson gets there on Monday.

(00:22):
Then we hike up Pike's Peak halfway up on Wednesday,
spend the night at a little shelter, and then we'll
hike the rest of the way up on Thursday. Then
I get to be back on I'm gonna come back
on Friday because Roger's rescue ride is on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, qust turn around.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, a lot of stuff going on, So I won't
be on the Minnesota gud Bye next week, but you
and Jenny will be here.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes, we will be here and might be a guest
star on a couple of them.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Okay, very good. Send your emails into Ryan's show at
KTIWB dot com. So we got plenty of content for
next week. Let's jump into the emails this morning. First
of all, we have Ranger Jessica and Ranger Jessca is
a literal park ranger, and we were talking last week
about whether you need like a college degree to be
a park ranger, and she writes in she says, I

(01:08):
would thought I would send an email in as I
don't think I could explain ranger jobs and schools in
the talkback feature because it's not long enough and it
always sounds better when Dave reads it. Anyway, because with
my theater training and voiceover training, I always make an
email sound magical.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Okay, I don't know if you had much training for that.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
All right, here we go. So one Bailey yelling at
people is definitely the least oh Bailey Comma, yelling at
people is definitely the least fun part of the job.
And haha. You do have to gently remind people of
the rules very often. Don't feed the squirrels, don't try
to take home a bison, that type.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Of thing on the ground, walking feed only too.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
While the large majority of rangers do have bachelor or
master's degrees are higher, they're not required. You can be
a park ranger based on past work experience as well,
but degree requirements very depending on what kind of work
you want to do. So like Jenny said, the fee
collection staff often have backgrounds in finance, accounting, or business,
whereas the park rangers who lead tours usually have degrees
in education, history or natural science, biology, forestry, et cetera.

(02:13):
The field staff almost always have specific degrees, like biologists
have biology degrees duh, and the fire fighting staff might
have degrees in forestry, natural resource management, or fire ecology.
What an interesting degree?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Fire ecology?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Very specific. Three Law enforcement rangers usually have background in
criminal justice or natural science as well, but they do
have to attend additional schooling training when they are hired.
Typically they go through several months of school and field
training before they even start working at a park.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Four.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Not all those who wear the uniform are rangers in
the typical sense. All staff are required to wear the uniform,
including maintenance staff, facility staff, and administrative staff.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, that'd be fun because then you never have to
choose what you need to wear.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
That's true. I want a little badge. I want a badge.
I think I want to work for TSA just because
I'd be so proud to like, look at this badge.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
A little badge. I'd want the little park ranger hat
that they get to wear like the man in the
yellow hat from Curious Story.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
No right is like we call it a smoky bear hat. Yes,
and that's not as common. I noticed in Yellowstone a
few months ago a lot of the younger ones choose
to wear a ball cap. Oh yeah, fuck, I'd wear
that smoky bear cap.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Funny hat, Yeah, I'd.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Earn that thing. Lastly, all rangers love our jobs and
we love our parks. It can be tough no matter
if you are in the office or out in the field,
work in a remote park or urban park. But the
rangers I've worked with are the best and most passionate
people I know. Thank you for letting me share our
world with you through this podcast, Ranger Out Cool. Thank you, Jessica.

(03:47):
I think that's probably true because if you work, let's say,
I don't know, if you work at a you're in
a field that you love because you chose that outdoorsy.
I love nature, I love parks, kind of a five field.
Whereas if you work in accounting, you might not love
the place you work because you're, you know, counting sales
figures for paper clips.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Right exactly. So I wonder, so park rangers do they
work for the DNR like or is the DNR just like.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
For because I think they work in the Park Service.
I think the Park Service is its own thing.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, so the DNR, so I don't know. I don't
know either.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
The Department of the Interior.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe Jessica get back to
help us always. Thanks thanks for your your input. We
really appreciate that one. As I looked.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Up fire ecology because I was curious, and it is
a scientific field that studies how fire influences ecosystems and
the organisms within them. That sounds fascinating.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, yeah, I'm sure probably does. Like how long does
it take for the forest to regrow? And what hamp
is with animals? And how long until the squirrels come in?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
And do the squirrels come in first, followed by the mice,
followed by the.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Bears the squirrels come in.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know, we definitely get fires here in Minnesota and
in Colorado. There have been some very devastating fires in
twenty thirteen. I grew up in a pine forest, a
massive thousands and thousands of acres pine forest called black Forest, Colorado,
and my dad, growing up he always said, it's not

(05:22):
a matter of wind. There's a fire, it's not a
matter of if it's a matter of wind. And I
was always like, dad, you know whatever, you know, like technology,
it's modern times. There's not forest fires here anymore. And
about like I said, in twenty thirteen, something started a
fire and it was windy and hot and dry, and
this fire destroyed about six hundred homes in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It came within easily a half a mile of my house.
And it just depended on the way the wind blew. Wow,
And it just the wind blew the other way, and
so our house was perfectly safe. Mile half a mile
away are charred dead trees. And some of my friends,
childhood friends, their parents lost their home or their former

(06:08):
home and all these And there's a lot of log
cabins out there because it was in the forest, and
so there was a lot of one hundred year old
log cabins that people still lived in. And the community
center in Black Forest is at log cabin building that's
one hundred years old. And it missed a lot of them,
but then it took out a bunch of other ones.
And it was funny because when my mom and dad

(06:29):
lived there. It was a very affordable place to live.
But now it's where rich people go to build a
you know, like a five a lot, like a five
million dollar home. And a lot of rich people lost
their five million dollar home. And there were some that
after the fire you would drive by and there was
just the burnt out shell with just like the chimney

(06:51):
still standing. And they said that a lot of the
rich people didn't have insurance or didn't have adequate insurance
to rebuild because they just never expected that they would
need it. And they thought, this house is a five
million dollar home, it's too expensive to ensure. I'll just
roll the dice and take my chances.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh my god. Yeah, I would have been so nervous too,
if like there's a fire come in. I am sure.
That's how everybody feels, you know in California, Canada, whatever
fire's coming, you know, your house is on the line, Like, well,
what are you gonna do? Like you can't really do anything.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, the funny thing was a lot of people. There
was one couple that tried to stay because they thought
that they would like you know, not wait it out,
but maybe fight it off with a garden hose or something.
They stayed too long and they died trying too. I
think they found their car with the doors open in
the driveway. Wow, and they couldn't get out. So you'rer.

(07:46):
Do you ever have a friend who lost a house
and a house fire?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I do. So. My friend Winnie, who we've talked to
on the show before, her house was struck by lightning,
maybe like six or seven years ago and they were
not home, so it burned, like the entire top floor
of her house was completely burned. Oh really, and so
she lost like a ton of stuff. I still think

(08:10):
she's like dealing with that because that was she had
a rough year that year, and it was wild because
then we got to work and everybody's like, hey, when
you won't be in today because her house caught on fire.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, and we're like, oh what when when I first
moved here, I had a friend come visit and when
she was visiting, she got a phone call from her
sister or roommate that her apartment burned down.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Got like the whole building, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Like everything was destroyed. Everything. And so here I am,
what do you say to somebody who just got a
phone call that your house is burned down? Anyway, she
was devastated, and that was years ago and she still
brings it up occasionally to this day as a reference point,
like before the fire or after the fire. So just
very I mean, you think all the things that you lose.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I know, and sentimental stuff, yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
My dad's old stuff and the baby stuff and pictures
and things.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So it makes me sting.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
All right, we got a couple of more. Well, we
got plenty of time on the Minnesota Goodbye, but we
don't have a whole lot of emails. So Bailey has
a question. The question.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, So speaking of Colorado, because we're just talking about it,
I have a friend of mine messaged me today saying,
do you want to go to a Colorado wedding in October?
Because he can't convince his other friend to go. And
I said, asking you, asking me if I wanted to go?
And I said what day and where? And it's in October,
like mid October. And he said it's in Monument.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Colorado, very close to my house, which is what I said, Yeah,
you can stay there if you want to, That's what
I said.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, I said, so my boss has a house in
Colorado Springs, which is twenty two minutes away, and I
bet that dude would let me stay there.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh totally.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And then he said, oh, you'll be closer to the
venue than I am. I'm staying an hour north so
I can go hiking. Like, bitch, I'm not going to
go alone. Yeah, stay alone and rent my car alone.
Like why am I going? Why? Now?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah? Why are you going? He should be like, well,
let's stay together.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I would say, like he could cancel his where he's
paying to stay.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, and then we could say your house stay for
free and you'll love it a whole lot more than
like a hotel room.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right, But he's like, well, a hot taking up north
an hour north. I'm like, you can go hiking anywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well, there's great hiking in Colorado Springs. Yeah, probably within
thirty thirty five minutes of my house. There's world class hiking.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well I he literally just messed with me today. So
this is only what's happened this morning. But it's funny
because I have a little bit of a crush on
this guy. But I've only met him in real life
once at my friend Justin's wedding. Okay, and so, but
we like talk on Instagram and that's kind of like it.
We just like chat occasionally mostly, I don't know, every
other day ish. But now he's like, Hey, I want
to go to this wedding with me, And I'm like,

(10:51):
what that.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Sounds like almost like a like a little tiny bit
of a romantic interlude.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right, but it's he says it's because his friend Justin
doesn't want to go.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And Okay, but you're a good backup and you're a girl.
I am a girl, and you well you should say, like,
you know, listen, cancel, stay at Dave's house. Right, he's
got a jacuzzi. And here's the here's the clue. Because
I used to live in Arizona and I had a
pool in my backyard and the biggest way to get
somebody to want to get naked was to be like, oh,

(11:22):
I've got a pool. Well I don't have a swimsuit,
and I guess we can get in naked. Oh Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Don't know if I'm that type of person, but really, yeah,
I don't think I would ever. Well, at one, I
can't swim too.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's a jacuzzi, Well.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I would send the rakuzi. Well, probably a chacuzzi though, Yeah,
maybe a JACUZI yeah, but anyway, so I might go
to I've never been to Colorado, but he said, you
want to go to this wedding with me, and I
love a freaking wedding.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And it's in Monument, which is Monument. If he's up
an hour north of Monument. You're twenty minutes away from Monument. Yeah,
stay with you. There's four bedrooms. You don't have to
stay in the same bedroom. Yeah, there's we got Wi Fi. Right,
we got electricity, there's Wi Fi. We have hot and
cold running water, hot diggity dog, we do. So I'm
going there this weekend. I love it. It is my

(12:08):
happy place.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll shoot.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Anytime you want to use that house. I offer it
to everybody.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I let her know, so I'll see what happens and
maybe I'll end up being there mid October.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
We'll see, let me know. And you can totally stay
there by yourself. My friend Ben stayed there by himself.
My friend Chet stayed there by himself. Actually I think
Chet brought along his boyfriend. I'm not really sure.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, I mean, I could stay there alone, but I'm
thinking about why would we rent two cars? That's stupid.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, so he should not be an idiot.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
All right, Okay, let me know, let me know, and
that is it. Minnesota Goodbye. Kind of a shorter version
today if you wanted to be longer, we would love
to read your email on the Minnesota Goodbye. And I
will tell you somebody wrote called in during the no
phone screener Friday today and they said, how can you
never read my email? And honestly it is there is
a chance that I hit the delete button when I

(12:55):
was trying to hit the red flag button. So if
you wrote in an email and we didn't read it,
it's likely that I just lost it in the shuffle.
I am a bad manager of the email box. So
go ahead and send it in to Ryan's show at
ktwbat dot com. Thank you for listening. Have a great
week next week. Follow me on Instagram, especially next Thursday
and no Wednesday and Thursday because I'll be doing live

(13:18):
reports on Instagram for my hike up Pike's Peak with
my boyson.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Your boy Carson.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, it is. Have a great week. We'll see you soon.
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