May 13, 2025 • 20 mins
We talk (Uncle) Art, hear from Ranger Jessica for some Mississippi fun facts, and how to honor a stillborn sibling.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Minnesota. Goodbye for May thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Here's our
first email, diving right into attacking art. Let's attack art
because we need to attack art. Here we go. I
heard the caller message about the unusual sculpture project in class.
Back in December. I had a sculpture class and a
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girl's project was literally newspapers pinned to the wall, no
other effort involved. The project was called impermanence, or the
project idea was called in permanence. People went ape shit
for her project. I thought man could use more effort.
A few tidbits about sculpture. It has to be conceptual
to be classified as sculpture. Almost all projects are named untitled,
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and sculpture can either be parts put together or taken
away to make a project. I honestly thought you literally
sculpted sculpture, as the name implies. We talked about this.
It comes up maybe once every sek months or so
about how people would go to a sculpture class and
somebody would come in with a shoe with a not
tied in it, and they'd be like, Yeah, that's my sculpture,
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and you could not argue that it was not art.
Because I mean I would, because that's just the way
I think. But somebody would say, oh, well you've got
a reaction out of it, it's art. So but the
thing is, I think you can put in minimal effort.
I could wad up a piece of paper and dip
it in caramel sauce and then call it untitled. Oh
what does that mean? That means I call it, in
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well me inedible. I call it inedible exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's making me I think something, and if I hate it,
it's making me feel something.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And if your intention is for it to be art,
then it's art.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Like art doesn't have to be good, you know, like
it doesn't have to have effort into it, so like, yeah,
obviously good art. Like for me, it's like a beautiful
painting that I can think like, wow, that took a
long time, that took a lot of effort. Then I'll
be like that's the kind of art I like, versus
your caramel dipped piece of paper bought it up.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'll be like, this is crap. And then I'll just
walk along and.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
An uncle art, Yeah, uncle art was it was. He
was very old when I met him, and he pulled
out a giant diamond and it was an uncut diamond.
I don't know where he got it, but it was
a little smaller than a ping pong ball, maybe a
little smaller than that, but it was it was diamond.
Definitely a crystal. It was a diamond. And I remember
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him showing it to me when I was like five
or six or seven, and he's like, yep, that's a diamond,
and I'm like, shit, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He was riding on a greyhound bus, fell asleep and
somebody stole his bag. So somebody stole this diamond that
he carried around with him. Uncle Art, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Was carrying that around with you too.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
He also gave me and my brother silk scarves. Now
my brother was probably ten and I was five, and
so he gave us silk scarves, silk, very nice, and
he's like, look at these, these are for you and
your brother. And he was maybe a little fishy. I
don't know where he got them because he didn't have
any money.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And my mom said, I'm not giving him to the boys.
I'm going to keep them. And she kept him in
her dress or drawer, and we all forgot about them,
all forgot about these silk scarves, and when she died,
we're going through things, it's like, oh my god, there's
these beautiful white silk scarves. And I truly, to this day,
I don't know what happened to him.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Your uncle Art sounds like he's one of those Safari
guys who's like goes to Africa and then comes back
with some kind of like, you know, ancient gem or
a silk scarf.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Right tusk?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yes, I got a giraffe, Yeah, exactly from the Maharasha.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Uncle Art rip. You know what, you were quite a
character in the very few brief moments that I knew you.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I honestly thought you were setting us up for a
bit there as you started talking about Uncle Art.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
So I was waiting for a punchline at yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, do you want a bit? Do you want me
to set you up?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I mean, I love it, I love it, but now
we know it's a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, let me see if I can find one for you. Okay,
you know my gonna tell you guys, my life has
not been the same since my accident.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
What accident, the one.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Where I got my finger stuck in that wedding ring. Okay,
I may have another one, maybe not all right, Nope,
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Okay, next one, the calendar I gave you that you
never even entertain anymore?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Did you throw it away?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I did. I threw it away. I thought if I
threw it away would make a good bit, because I
never read the jokes off your calendar because they're so bad.
So I thought if I threw your calendar away, it
would make a good bit. Jenny's face right now is
as she just saw a ghost. I threw it away,
shrew it away for the bit good money on that.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
But that's okay, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
No, Wow, I am shook because you're a very.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
You're a very You're you like gifts, but not like
you need to receive gifts. You like thought behind gifts.
I do, yes, So that's just why I'm like a
little shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
But well, if you notice look over here. Yeah, what
else did I throw away?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Nothing? It looks no fucking cluster fox.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
No, I true. Remember the rock, the rock that I
bought for forty dollars that's supposed to give off like
positive energy. I threw it away, yeah, because it was
causing clutter. And there was a couple of other little
things over here, like something we never played with, or
the fart spray. Oh remember the bottle of fart spray? Yeah,
because do you see it over there anymore?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
No, I didn't even know there was so much stuff
over there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I don't even know when things are gone because there's
still a bunch of random shit over there.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That book that's called Life Hacks, that's Fallon and Colts.
That's their book. Because I've said, oh, can I read
this on the air, and she said, no, we read
that on our show, So that is theirs. I have
a pepper shaker, I have two magic tricks. I have
a bag of salt, and I have a bunch of
games and a couple of remote microphones.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And you did hear him correctly? It is a bag
of salt because he was out of salt. So for
his birthday last year, we got them some different things,
but one of them included me putting a bunch of
salt in a bag.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Here you go.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I wasn't going to go out and get you a
new salt chamber. I was salt a home here out
there in the bay.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And it's still there.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, we here we have a ranger Jessica with today's
did you know Fact? Now, let me see if I
can push all the right buttons and make this play correctly,
and uh and play what is that plane?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's a website playing in the background. Hold on, I
like it. That was great when we closed that down,
and then I should be able to play Ranger Jessica
and her did you know Fact of the Day?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
All right, Ranger Jessica, yere back again for your second
edition Did you Know of the Day? And this one's
gonna be way shorter since last week we were talking
about quintessential Minnesota things and someone mentioned the Mississippi River.
I thought, let's talk about the Misissippi River a little bit.
The Mississippi River is the second longest river in the US.
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The Missouri is just a little bit longer, and the
length of Mississippi changes depending on how you measure it
and who you ask. Uh. Saint Anthony falls over in
Minneapolis is the only natural waterfall on the entirety of
the Mississippi River, which is pretty cool. And also there's
a national park here right in the Twin Cities in Minneapoli,
Saint Paul called the Mississippi National River and Recreation Area,
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and it celebrates all things Mississippi River. So if you
haven't been there, go check it out. For just go
get out on the Mississippi River rain rot.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I like that ranger, Jessica, thank you. I know that
there's Saint Anthony Falls. It's that odd kind of a
U shaped falls right by the stone arch bridge.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I know a lot about it because I used to
work at Mill City Museum, and so the reason it
looks like that is because they had to use the
water for water power and to drop in the falls,
so that's where the V shape was like it pushed
the water to either sides of the bank so that
the mills could use it. Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Interesting, now here's something else. I know that it is
concrete reinforced, so in other words, it cannot erode. Yes,
because it's on very soft stone. And I guess centuries
or millennia ago the falls was down by Fort Snelling. Yes,
did you know this too?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
That yet?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But over the millennia the falls is eroded and worked
its way backward up the river.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, it has sandstone underneath and limestone on top, so
the sandstone would he rode away and then the limestone
would break off, so it traveled upstream to where it
is now, and then when they started using it for power,
they were like, oh crap, this is going to keep
eroding away.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, so they put it's called an apron over top.
No shit, it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Looks like a dam, but it's not a dam. It's
an apron and the apron has made up.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
God yours that I'm impressed and disgusted with you at
the same time. That's really amazing that you knew that,
because I really thought that it was very uncommon knowledge
that anyone knew that. I've never been to the headwaters
up by Itasca, and I'd like to take a camping
trip or a motorcycle ride up to Itasca to see,
and I've heard it's not anything spectacular. It's like you
can walk across the Mississippi because it's like, you know,
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four which is deep at that point as it flows
out of Lake Itasca.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
For the novelty, why not.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah, I think I went to Itasca State Park like
a year, maybe last summer, but there was like a
really fun waterfall there that usually was just like a
trickle sometimes, and we had so much rain last summer
that it was like a booming waterfall. So I think
This is different than what you were talking about, but
I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I've always wanted to speak of the Missouri River. One
thing that I always wanted to do and I always
planned on when I had a boy. One day, we
were going to canoe down the Missouri River from Fort
Benton into Fort Peck Lake because my grandparents pioneered or
what's the word homesteaded on land around there, and I
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thought that'd be really cool.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Grandparents Lewis and Clark.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No that would be explored. They were homesteaders and it's untouched.
It's all preserved, so it looks exactly like it did
when Lewis and Clark went through there. And I've always
wanted to do that, and we never That's one of
the regrets my life is that we never ever made
time to take that Carson and Dad canoe trip down
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the Missouri River. And we had it, you know, we
were going to do it alone, and then we just
didn't have time to get experts enough in it to
do it. So we hired an outfitter to take us
down and we had to cancel it because he had
boy scout camp and he had this and that, and
we just couldn't do it. Som' still something I want
to do with Carson. But I don't think that he
is a camping, outdoorsy kind of a guy.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Not anymore. I don't think he used to be right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You know, that's a question. Can I tell you the truth?
I think he hated Boy Scouts.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I think he hated once his friends were out of
Boy Scouts and he didn't have buddies to hang out
with and be obnoxious and make fart jokes and poop
jokes and booger jokes. At camp, he was kind of
hanging out with the younger kids, and he didn't like
it anymore. Yeah, And I think that one day I
want to ask Carson is like, I know you love
Boy Scouts when you first started, but did you just
hate it? Because I don't think he's quite ready to
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be honest with me yet, but I do want to
know whether he'd liked it or not. He was a
great experience and there's some great adventures he would have had.
But I think it's important if your kid, daughter, son
joined Scouts that they've got a friend that's in with them,
or they want.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
To know it worth it?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, Okay, continuing on, let me see if I can
click the right button here. All right, here we go,
Melissa Wright saying, hello, things, I love all of you.
Things I don't love three hours waiting online at the
government service center to get my kid's birth certificate. But
alas it's given me a minute, one hundred and eighty
minutes to be exact, to finally send an email to
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the show. A few months ago, Bailey mentioned that she
had a sibling who was still born. I'm wondering how
and when her parents told her about her sibling and
how her family did or didn't navigate that sibling's memory
into the family.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, I guess I can't remember when I was told
because I think we were just always told that we
had a brother and his name was Zakias, and I
think they were going to name him Alexander, but once
they found out he was still born, they like chose,
you know, name from the Bible.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, So that's why his name is Zacius. And his
birthday is in December.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So we always like commemorated it, just like, I don't know,
we didn't like do anything for it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
My mom would just tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, so we.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Always just knew about it, and now like every December
on the day, we try and like reach out to
my mom and say something, ah, but that's really it.
We don't like do anything super fancy because he was
before my sister, and my sister's older than me, so
like we wouldn't have been we weren't in.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
The mix yet, I see.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But yeah, my mom still gets sad about it, which
makes sense so rightfully.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So you know, it was kind of a secret in
Susan's family. Susan ed is still born older sister, and
I think this sister would have been She's had two
older brothers and this sister would have been the oldest.
And back then, I guess she didn't really talk about it,
and this would have been back in the I don't know,
the fifties or sixties, which born and Susan doesn't know
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anything about her. They apparently back then you did not
take a photo, which is very common now when if
you have a stillborn baby, you take a photo. Yeah
that's your baby, Yeah, of course. And so Susan's not
sad about it because she doesn't know. But I think
about how different life would be for Susan if she
had an older sister and how wonderful that would have
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been for her.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, I think about mine old. I mean if I
had an older brother.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Every year that whatever age he would have been, she
would give a toy to Toys for Tots for a
kid at that age.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That is so touching. Seriously, that is something that we
don't really talk about that often. Next one, I'm asking
because our first child, oh, same thing. Our first child
was still born. He would have been five years old
this month. We've since had two more kids. They're very young,
but I'm trying to find ways to talk to him
about their brother, to continue to remember our first child
and keep some sort of traditions for him and our family. Thanks,
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I realized it's not a super happy topic. Have a
great day, Melissa aka Juice because that's what my dad
wanted to name me, Huice.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I definitely recommend the Toys for Tots thing because we
would go shopping for a Toys for Tot's gift for Zach.
So we'd be like, Okay, what would Zach like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
He would have been.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Turning fifteen this year, so I remember us getting like,
you know, an iPod or something like not an iPod,
you know, the cheap version of an iPod to give
to toys for tots.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That is kind, that's very sweet. I'm glad that came up,
because that is something that I think a lot of
people just don't address very much. Hello, Favorites. A couple
of questions for you, mostly Dave. I guess, Dave, when
you go to Colorado, do you rent a car every
time or do you store your car somewhere nearby? I've
done both, but I rent a car now and it
is not cheap. It's really ridiculous because Colorado is such
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a touristy state that they rent cars for about six
hundred dollars for five days. Who it is nuts. So
to avoid that, I did keep a car parked there
at the Denver Airport, and so you would ride your
sh to the parking lot about five minute right away,
and then you would get your car in a giant
sea of cars, and you could pay for covered parking,
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you could pay for heated parking. I paid for uncovered parking.
My car was always covered with bird shit by the
time I got there. And then finally that car broke
down and we had to you know, trade it in,
and we certainly were not going to keep a new
work car there, so I just rent now. Interesting question
a thought on doodles because we were talking about you know,
doodles are such great dogs, et cetera. And Josie was
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a labordoodle and she was the best dog, no question,
that I've ever had.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And you also want a snoodle.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm thinking about getting a shnoodle. Yeah, Schnauzer poodle, Dave,
Your sweet Josie was probably near the beginning of the
doodle craze given her age she was sixteen. Now that
doodles are so popular, their breeding is gone down. Allergies
are very common with other health issues too. There's a
reason most professional vets say avoid doodles. I'll bet you
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avoided a lot of that. Considering you got Josie sixteen
years ago. That totally makes sense. She was healthy and
active and she was just the best. Just something to consider.
Might be worth reaching out to a vet professional to
see if there are healthier breeds. I'm a dog mom
of two rescues, but my dad bred labs for many
years and had to do rigorous testing to confirm both
parents were healthy. Hope this helps from Nanda, Yeah, thank you.
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But then the next email says, I love our shnoodle.
Her name was Mitsubishi. We called her Mitzi. She was
so loving to I don't see the problem. Get one
if you want one, She listened, never had bathroom issues
and lived a long time from Naomi.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Do you want a dog that's gonna go on like
hakes with you?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And yeah I do.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I don't know if schnoodles it, then you might be right. Yeah, yeah,
I feel like walks. Yeah, but I don't know about hiking.
But I say that, And I have a friend who
lives in Colorado and he has a Corgie, and that
little Corey loves a good hike, a.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Nice fourteen er.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
That thing just climbs up the mountain faster like three
times the speed of us.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's you know what. There are certain dogs that I
don't find cute, and somebody's gonna get mad. I don't
find Corky's cute. I don't find pugs cute. I would
never get a Corky or a pug because I want
to look at that dog and go, oh, I'm so cute.
Josie was cute. She would wop walk and I would
stand behind her, walking behind her and her little ears
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would flop up and down as she walked. Yeah, and
it was just so fucking cute. Yeah, and she just
was so happy all the time.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I used to be obsessed with Corky's and then I
feel like that kind of became a big popular breed
for a little bit. And then I met there is
one Corky that I know that kind of really bugged
the shit out of me, and it kind of made
me think that I don't actually want a Corky, not
the one I just mentioned that my friend has in Colorado.
Libby is the shit and I love her, but a
different one.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I got one final email, and this person's really well meaning,
but she says, I want to send you the sweet
dog who's available for adoption to the Golden Valley Humane Society.
And he is a pit bull mix and she sends
a little picture along with him. And I'm not gonna
say the name because I don't want to, like, you know,
like you know, give the dog a bad reputation. But
they says about three and a half years old, he
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is a big boy at almost one hundred pounds. He
is a very sweet, silly, affectionate, and fun boy. I
honestly would never adopt a pit bull mix. I just
would never do that.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Could you say you wanted a smaller dog.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I do, yeah, just with little girls around the house.
Two four and another newborn coming in August or September.
I just would never. And you can judge me all
day if you want to. I know that some are wonderful,
and but I just know that any strong dog, when provoked,
can be a dangerous dog. You can take a little
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miniature Pomeranian and provoke that dog like a four year
old or a two year old mike, pulling its tail,
grabbing its ears, trying to sit on top of it,
and that little Pomeranian, if provoked provoked, can get really angry.
I would never, in a millillionaires have a dog around kid.
It's kind of like giving a kid a pack of
matches and saying, yeah, don't don't do anything bad with
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these matches. Well, they're kids. Yeah, So if I'm wrong,
you and I will just have to disagree on that one. So,
but I do love dogs, and I'm looking for like
an older dog like three ish, potty trained, not shedding,
and adorable.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Old three isn't old, No, it's not all just like
trained you want.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They don't want to take a senior dog. I would
take a seven or ten year old dog. I saw one.
It was you see these sad dog videos on Instagram,
and it was like a like a Great Dane kind
of a dog and his owner got old and had
to move to like, you know, assisted living or something.
So this dog had been their loyal dog for like
eight years. And they're showing this dog at the shelter
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and you know how dogs will give you those fucking
puppy dog eyes, Yeah, where they almost raise their eyebrows or.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
They're like, did you want to come in, Peppy?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And the dog looks so sad sitting in its cage,
and it was like, this dog has been a loyal
dog and now it's scared and it doesn't know what
to do, and because they can't be with their beloved
owner anymore, so then they adopt it. And then they
show this fucking happy Great Dane dog frawl licking in
the park and it was just so heartwarming. It was
like that's what dogs love to do. They love to
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frolic and be happy. So do we Yep, we're gonna
go do that. Now we're go go frawlic and be happy.
So we are out of here. Have a great day.
Thank you sincerely for listening to the Minnesota Goodbye. Tell
a friend about the Minnesota Goodbye. It's like, you know what,
you listen to War of the Roses. You should hear
the Minnesota Goodbye because there's some cool stuff on there.
And then send an email in because we always love
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fresh emails. Whatever you want to talk about, and I
will say, Katie, thank you for sharing the story about
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Minnesota. Goodbye for May thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Here's our
first email, diving right into attacking art. Let's attack art
because we need to attack art. Here we go. I
heard the caller message about the unusual sculpture project in class.
Back in December. I had a sculpture class and a
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girl's project was literally newspapers pinned to the wall, no
other effort involved. The project was called impermanence, or the
project idea was called in permanence. People went ape shit
for her project. I thought man could use more effort.
A few tidbits about sculpture. It has to be conceptual
to be classified as sculpture. Almost all projects are named untitled,
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and sculpture can either be parts put together or taken
away to make a project. I honestly thought you literally
sculpted sculpture, as the name implies. We talked about this.
It comes up maybe once every sek months or so
about how people would go to a sculpture class and
somebody would come in with a shoe with a not
tied in it, and they'd be like, Yeah, that's my sculpture,
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and you could not argue that it was not art.
Because I mean I would, because that's just the way
I think. But somebody would say, oh, well you've got
a reaction out of it, it's art. So but the
thing is, I think you can put in minimal effort.
I could wad up a piece of paper and dip
it in caramel sauce and then call it untitled. Oh
what does that mean? That means I call it, in
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well me inedible. I call it inedible exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's making me I think something, and if I hate it,
it's making me feel something.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And if your intention is for it to be art,
then it's art.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Like art doesn't have to be good, you know, like
it doesn't have to have effort into it, so like, yeah,
obviously good art. Like for me, it's like a beautiful
painting that I can think like, wow, that took a
long time, that took a lot of effort. Then I'll
be like that's the kind of art I like, versus
your caramel dipped piece of paper bought it up.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'll be like, this is crap. And then I'll just
walk along and.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
An uncle art, Yeah, uncle art was it was. He
was very old when I met him, and he pulled
out a giant diamond and it was an uncut diamond.
I don't know where he got it, but it was
a little smaller than a ping pong ball, maybe a
little smaller than that, but it was it was diamond.
Definitely a crystal. It was a diamond. And I remember
(02:24):
him showing it to me when I was like five
or six or seven, and he's like, yep, that's a diamond,
and I'm like, shit, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He was riding on a greyhound bus, fell asleep and
somebody stole his bag. So somebody stole this diamond that
he carried around with him. Uncle Art, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Was carrying that around with you too.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
He also gave me and my brother silk scarves. Now
my brother was probably ten and I was five, and
so he gave us silk scarves, silk, very nice, and
he's like, look at these, these are for you and
your brother. And he was maybe a little fishy. I
don't know where he got them because he didn't have
any money.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And my mom said, I'm not giving him to the boys.
I'm going to keep them. And she kept him in
her dress or drawer, and we all forgot about them,
all forgot about these silk scarves, and when she died,
we're going through things, it's like, oh my god, there's
these beautiful white silk scarves. And I truly, to this day,
I don't know what happened to him.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Your uncle Art sounds like he's one of those Safari
guys who's like goes to Africa and then comes back
with some kind of like, you know, ancient gem or
a silk scarf.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Right tusk?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yes, I got a giraffe, Yeah, exactly from the Maharasha.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Uncle Art rip. You know what, you were quite a
character in the very few brief moments that I knew you.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I honestly thought you were setting us up for a
bit there as you started talking about Uncle Art.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
So I was waiting for a punchline at yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, do you want a bit? Do you want me
to set you up?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I mean, I love it, I love it, but now
we know it's a bit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, let me see if I can find one for you. Okay,
you know my gonna tell you guys, my life has
not been the same since my accident.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
What accident, the one.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Where I got my finger stuck in that wedding ring. Okay,
I may have another one, maybe not all right, Nope,
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Okay, next one, the calendar I gave you that you
never even entertain anymore?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Did you throw it away?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I did. I threw it away. I thought if I
threw it away would make a good bit, because I
never read the jokes off your calendar because they're so bad.
So I thought if I threw your calendar away, it
would make a good bit. Jenny's face right now is
as she just saw a ghost. I threw it away,
shrew it away for the bit good money on that.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
But that's okay, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
No, Wow, I am shook because you're a very.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
You're a very You're you like gifts, but not like
you need to receive gifts. You like thought behind gifts.
I do, yes, So that's just why I'm like a
little shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
But well, if you notice look over here. Yeah, what
else did I throw away?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Nothing? It looks no fucking cluster fox.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
No, I true. Remember the rock, the rock that I
bought for forty dollars that's supposed to give off like
positive energy. I threw it away, yeah, because it was
causing clutter. And there was a couple of other little
things over here, like something we never played with, or
the fart spray. Oh remember the bottle of fart spray? Yeah,
because do you see it over there anymore?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
No, I didn't even know there was so much stuff
over there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I don't even know when things are gone because there's
still a bunch of random shit over there.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That book that's called Life Hacks, that's Fallon and Colts.
That's their book. Because I've said, oh, can I read
this on the air, and she said, no, we read
that on our show, So that is theirs. I have
a pepper shaker, I have two magic tricks. I have
a bag of salt, and I have a bunch of
games and a couple of remote microphones.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And you did hear him correctly? It is a bag
of salt because he was out of salt. So for
his birthday last year, we got them some different things,
but one of them included me putting a bunch of
salt in a bag.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Here you go.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I wasn't going to go out and get you a
new salt chamber. I was salt a home here out
there in the bay.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And it's still there.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, we here we have a ranger Jessica with today's
did you know Fact? Now, let me see if I
can push all the right buttons and make this play correctly,
and uh and play what is that plane?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's a website playing in the background. Hold on, I
like it. That was great when we closed that down,
and then I should be able to play Ranger Jessica
and her did you know Fact of the Day?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
All right, Ranger Jessica, yere back again for your second
edition Did you Know of the Day? And this one's
gonna be way shorter since last week we were talking
about quintessential Minnesota things and someone mentioned the Mississippi River.
I thought, let's talk about the Misissippi River a little bit.
The Mississippi River is the second longest river in the US.
(06:59):
The Missouri is just a little bit longer, and the
length of Mississippi changes depending on how you measure it
and who you ask. Uh. Saint Anthony falls over in
Minneapolis is the only natural waterfall on the entirety of
the Mississippi River, which is pretty cool. And also there's
a national park here right in the Twin Cities in Minneapoli,
Saint Paul called the Mississippi National River and Recreation Area,
(07:20):
and it celebrates all things Mississippi River. So if you
haven't been there, go check it out. For just go
get out on the Mississippi River rain rot.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I like that ranger, Jessica, thank you. I know that
there's Saint Anthony Falls. It's that odd kind of a
U shaped falls right by the stone arch bridge.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I know a lot about it because I used to
work at Mill City Museum, and so the reason it
looks like that is because they had to use the
water for water power and to drop in the falls,
so that's where the V shape was like it pushed
the water to either sides of the bank so that
the mills could use it. Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Interesting, now here's something else. I know that it is
concrete reinforced, so in other words, it cannot erode. Yes,
because it's on very soft stone. And I guess centuries
or millennia ago the falls was down by Fort Snelling. Yes,
did you know this too?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
That yet?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But over the millennia the falls is eroded and worked
its way backward up the river.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yes, it has sandstone underneath and limestone on top, so
the sandstone would he rode away and then the limestone
would break off, so it traveled upstream to where it
is now, and then when they started using it for power,
they were like, oh crap, this is going to keep
eroding away.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, so they put it's called an apron over top.
No shit, it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Looks like a dam, but it's not a dam. It's
an apron and the apron has made up.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
God yours that I'm impressed and disgusted with you at
the same time. That's really amazing that you knew that,
because I really thought that it was very uncommon knowledge
that anyone knew that. I've never been to the headwaters
up by Itasca, and I'd like to take a camping
trip or a motorcycle ride up to Itasca to see,
and I've heard it's not anything spectacular. It's like you
can walk across the Mississippi because it's like, you know,
(08:59):
four which is deep at that point as it flows
out of Lake Itasca.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
For the novelty, why not.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah, I think I went to Itasca State Park like
a year, maybe last summer, but there was like a
really fun waterfall there that usually was just like a
trickle sometimes, and we had so much rain last summer
that it was like a booming waterfall. So I think
This is different than what you were talking about, but
I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I've always wanted to speak of the Missouri River. One
thing that I always wanted to do and I always
planned on when I had a boy. One day, we
were going to canoe down the Missouri River from Fort
Benton into Fort Peck Lake because my grandparents pioneered or
what's the word homesteaded on land around there, and I
(09:42):
thought that'd be really cool.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Grandparents Lewis and Clark.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
No that would be explored. They were homesteaders and it's untouched.
It's all preserved, so it looks exactly like it did
when Lewis and Clark went through there. And I've always
wanted to do that, and we never That's one of
the regrets my life is that we never ever made
time to take that Carson and Dad canoe trip down
(10:06):
the Missouri River. And we had it, you know, we
were going to do it alone, and then we just
didn't have time to get experts enough in it to
do it. So we hired an outfitter to take us
down and we had to cancel it because he had
boy scout camp and he had this and that, and
we just couldn't do it. Som' still something I want
to do with Carson. But I don't think that he
is a camping, outdoorsy kind of a guy.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Not anymore. I don't think he used to be right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You know, that's a question. Can I tell you the truth?
I think he hated Boy Scouts.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I think he hated once his friends were out of
Boy Scouts and he didn't have buddies to hang out
with and be obnoxious and make fart jokes and poop
jokes and booger jokes. At camp, he was kind of
hanging out with the younger kids, and he didn't like
it anymore. Yeah, And I think that one day I
want to ask Carson is like, I know you love
Boy Scouts when you first started, but did you just
hate it? Because I don't think he's quite ready to
(10:54):
be honest with me yet, but I do want to
know whether he'd liked it or not. He was a
great experience and there's some great adventures he would have had.
But I think it's important if your kid, daughter, son
joined Scouts that they've got a friend that's in with them,
or they want.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
To know it worth it?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, Okay, continuing on, let me see if I can
click the right button here. All right, here we go,
Melissa Wright saying, hello, things, I love all of you.
Things I don't love three hours waiting online at the
government service center to get my kid's birth certificate. But
alas it's given me a minute, one hundred and eighty
minutes to be exact, to finally send an email to
(11:31):
the show. A few months ago, Bailey mentioned that she
had a sibling who was still born. I'm wondering how
and when her parents told her about her sibling and
how her family did or didn't navigate that sibling's memory
into the family.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, I guess I can't remember when I was told
because I think we were just always told that we
had a brother and his name was Zakias, and I
think they were going to name him Alexander, but once
they found out he was still born, they like chose,
you know, name from the Bible.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Okay, So that's why his name is Zacius. And his
birthday is in December.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So we always like commemorated it, just like, I don't know,
we didn't like do anything for it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
My mom would just tell us about it.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, so we.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Always just knew about it, and now like every December
on the day, we try and like reach out to
my mom and say something, ah, but that's really it.
We don't like do anything super fancy because he was
before my sister, and my sister's older than me, so
like we wouldn't have been we weren't in.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
The mix yet, I see.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But yeah, my mom still gets sad about it, which
makes sense so rightfully.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So you know, it was kind of a secret in
Susan's family. Susan ed is still born older sister, and
I think this sister would have been She's had two
older brothers and this sister would have been the oldest.
And back then, I guess she didn't really talk about it,
and this would have been back in the I don't know,
the fifties or sixties, which born and Susan doesn't know
(13:02):
anything about her. They apparently back then you did not
take a photo, which is very common now when if
you have a stillborn baby, you take a photo. Yeah
that's your baby, Yeah, of course. And so Susan's not
sad about it because she doesn't know. But I think
about how different life would be for Susan if she
had an older sister and how wonderful that would have
(13:25):
been for her.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, I think about mine old. I mean if I
had an older brother.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Every year that whatever age he would have been, she
would give a toy to Toys for Tots for a
kid at that age.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That is so touching. Seriously, that is something that we
don't really talk about that often. Next one, I'm asking
because our first child, oh, same thing. Our first child
was still born. He would have been five years old
this month. We've since had two more kids. They're very young,
but I'm trying to find ways to talk to him
about their brother, to continue to remember our first child
and keep some sort of traditions for him and our family. Thanks,
(13:58):
I realized it's not a super happy topic. Have a
great day, Melissa aka Juice because that's what my dad
wanted to name me, Huice.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I definitely recommend the Toys for Tots thing because we
would go shopping for a Toys for Tot's gift for Zach.
So we'd be like, Okay, what would Zach like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
He would have been.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Turning fifteen this year, so I remember us getting like,
you know, an iPod or something like not an iPod,
you know, the cheap version of an iPod to give
to toys for tots.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That is kind, that's very sweet. I'm glad that came up,
because that is something that I think a lot of
people just don't address very much. Hello, Favorites. A couple
of questions for you, mostly Dave. I guess, Dave, when
you go to Colorado, do you rent a car every
time or do you store your car somewhere nearby? I've
done both, but I rent a car now and it
is not cheap. It's really ridiculous because Colorado is such
(14:46):
a touristy state that they rent cars for about six
hundred dollars for five days. Who it is nuts. So
to avoid that, I did keep a car parked there
at the Denver Airport, and so you would ride your
sh to the parking lot about five minute right away,
and then you would get your car in a giant
sea of cars, and you could pay for covered parking,
(15:08):
you could pay for heated parking. I paid for uncovered parking.
My car was always covered with bird shit by the
time I got there. And then finally that car broke
down and we had to you know, trade it in,
and we certainly were not going to keep a new
work car there, so I just rent now. Interesting question
a thought on doodles because we were talking about you know,
doodles are such great dogs, et cetera. And Josie was
(15:29):
a labordoodle and she was the best dog, no question,
that I've ever had.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And you also want a snoodle.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm thinking about getting a shnoodle. Yeah, Schnauzer poodle, Dave,
Your sweet Josie was probably near the beginning of the
doodle craze given her age she was sixteen. Now that
doodles are so popular, their breeding is gone down. Allergies
are very common with other health issues too. There's a
reason most professional vets say avoid doodles. I'll bet you
(15:57):
avoided a lot of that. Considering you got Josie sixteen
years ago. That totally makes sense. She was healthy and
active and she was just the best. Just something to consider.
Might be worth reaching out to a vet professional to
see if there are healthier breeds. I'm a dog mom
of two rescues, but my dad bred labs for many
years and had to do rigorous testing to confirm both
parents were healthy. Hope this helps from Nanda, Yeah, thank you.
(16:21):
But then the next email says, I love our shnoodle.
Her name was Mitsubishi. We called her Mitzi. She was
so loving to I don't see the problem. Get one
if you want one, She listened, never had bathroom issues
and lived a long time from Naomi.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Do you want a dog that's gonna go on like
hakes with you?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And yeah I do.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I don't know if schnoodles it, then you might be right. Yeah, yeah,
I feel like walks. Yeah, but I don't know about hiking.
But I say that, And I have a friend who
lives in Colorado and he has a Corgie, and that
little Corey loves a good hike, a.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Nice fourteen er.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
That thing just climbs up the mountain faster like three
times the speed of us.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's you know what. There are certain dogs that I
don't find cute, and somebody's gonna get mad. I don't
find Corky's cute. I don't find pugs cute. I would
never get a Corky or a pug because I want
to look at that dog and go, oh, I'm so cute.
Josie was cute. She would wop walk and I would
stand behind her, walking behind her and her little ears
(17:19):
would flop up and down as she walked. Yeah, and
it was just so fucking cute. Yeah, and she just
was so happy all the time.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I used to be obsessed with Corky's and then I
feel like that kind of became a big popular breed
for a little bit. And then I met there is
one Corky that I know that kind of really bugged
the shit out of me, and it kind of made
me think that I don't actually want a Corky, not
the one I just mentioned that my friend has in Colorado.
Libby is the shit and I love her, but a
different one.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I got one final email, and this person's really well meaning,
but she says, I want to send you the sweet
dog who's available for adoption to the Golden Valley Humane Society.
And he is a pit bull mix and she sends
a little picture along with him. And I'm not gonna
say the name because I don't want to, like, you know,
like you know, give the dog a bad reputation. But
they says about three and a half years old, he
(18:07):
is a big boy at almost one hundred pounds. He
is a very sweet, silly, affectionate, and fun boy. I
honestly would never adopt a pit bull mix. I just
would never do that.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Could you say you wanted a smaller dog.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I do, yeah, just with little girls around the house.
Two four and another newborn coming in August or September.
I just would never. And you can judge me all
day if you want to. I know that some are wonderful,
and but I just know that any strong dog, when provoked,
can be a dangerous dog. You can take a little
(18:43):
miniature Pomeranian and provoke that dog like a four year
old or a two year old mike, pulling its tail,
grabbing its ears, trying to sit on top of it,
and that little Pomeranian, if provoked provoked, can get really angry.
I would never, in a millillionaires have a dog around kid.
It's kind of like giving a kid a pack of
matches and saying, yeah, don't don't do anything bad with
(19:06):
these matches. Well, they're kids. Yeah, So if I'm wrong,
you and I will just have to disagree on that one. So,
but I do love dogs, and I'm looking for like
an older dog like three ish, potty trained, not shedding,
and adorable.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Old three isn't old, No, it's not all just like
trained you want.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They don't want to take a senior dog. I would
take a seven or ten year old dog. I saw one.
It was you see these sad dog videos on Instagram,
and it was like a like a Great Dane kind
of a dog and his owner got old and had
to move to like, you know, assisted living or something.
So this dog had been their loyal dog for like
eight years. And they're showing this dog at the shelter
(19:46):
and you know how dogs will give you those fucking
puppy dog eyes, Yeah, where they almost raise their eyebrows or.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
They're like, did you want to come in, Peppy?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And the dog looks so sad sitting in its cage,
and it was like, this dog has been a loyal
dog and now it's scared and it doesn't know what
to do, and because they can't be with their beloved
owner anymore, so then they adopt it. And then they
show this fucking happy Great Dane dog frawl licking in
the park and it was just so heartwarming. It was
like that's what dogs love to do. They love to
(20:17):
frolic and be happy. So do we Yep, we're gonna
go do that. Now we're go go frawlic and be happy.
So we are out of here. Have a great day.
Thank you sincerely for listening to the Minnesota Goodbye. Tell
a friend about the Minnesota Goodbye. It's like, you know what,
you listen to War of the Roses. You should hear
the Minnesota Goodbye because there's some cool stuff on there.
And then send an email in because we always love
(20:38):
fresh emails. Whatever you want to talk about, and I
will say, Katie, thank you for sharing the story about
the dog that is up for adoption and I hope
they find a home for that dog soon. Send your
emails to Ryan's show at KDWBT dot com.
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