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December 16, 2025 18 mins

Jenny tells us about her exciting day off, Dave goes on and on about the Buddy Holly plane crash, and we talk about what keeps us in MN.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jenny, what did you do with your time off? You
were gone? What were you gone? Friday and Monday?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
No, just Monday. VOT was off Thursday and Friday.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
That's what it was. Okay, I knew that something was off.
What'd you do with your day off?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I really didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I have been just I guess overwhelmed with a lot
of shit lately that I've had to do, just adulting shit.
It's nothing like bad or anything, so genuinely, I allowed
myself to not do shit and it was honestly not
great because my personality thrives on doing shit. Shitty Yeah, no,
not doing shit, but being productive. So I feel like

(00:34):
I wasted the day. Yesterday I watched a new Knives
Out movie that's on Netflix. Honestly, it was the worst
one of all of them. Oh no, have you guys
watched those movies before. It's always like a murder and
it's crazy how they find out who the murderer is.
You'll I feel like you can never really guess it,
or maybe you can have an idea, but how it
actually happened.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
You can't guess.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
This one I didn't really like because it was like
it involves like religion, and it just not because it
involved religion. It just felt darker than most of the
Knives Out movies. They are a little bit more humorous. Yeah,
so yeah, and those movies are always like two and
a half fuck an hours long.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
So that's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Pretty much the only thing I did yesterday besides like
some other adult and shit like, I had to figure
out some insurance stuff because I got.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
A new roof and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm fun. Yeah, okay, so fun. An email about you, Jenny.
I'm not caught up yet of the Minnesota Goodbye this week,
but I have a question for Jenny, if you're comfortable sharing,
and just let me know if you're not. Jenny, how
was it. How has it been going this year since
starting anxiety medication? You inspired me to seek it out
for myself. I for many years have been silently struggling

(01:36):
and trying to go the natural way, but this year
was the year I finally could no longer manage it
on my own. From what I remember you sharing about
your symptoms, it's almost exactly what I've been going through.
I'm starting on medication and I'm truthfully very scared of
possible side effects in the general stigma of it, but
I hope it can start to give me some normalcy
back in my life. For somebody who is genuinely very happy, motivated,

(01:56):
excited about life, this anxiety has flipped my world up
side down. Thank you for sharing your story and being
so vulnerable. Any advice or words of wisdom you can
share would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
So I've actually been.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
On anxiety medication for like coming up on two years
this May, I think.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
So it took me up until probably.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Like nine months in truthfully to feel better, like not
to feel better in general. I think the anxiety medication
really helps me out within like a month, but to
really get back to myself. And I know that that's
probably not like exactly what you want to hear, because nine.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Months is a long time, but it's been good.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'm getting a little bits tad right now because I'll
be honest, I am struggling a little bit with some things,
but I know that, like my medication has helped me,
and I would like not be doing us good right
now if it wasn't for it. So I really hope
that yours helps you, and if it doesn't, like keep

(02:59):
talking to your doc or and find either the right
medication or a higher dosage because I had to up
my dosage at the beginning because it wasn't doing much
so well.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Way to trigger Jenny, goddamn it, I mean, what the fuck? No,
I'm kidding. I'm trying to lighten the moment a little
bit here. No, that's a I'm thanks for sharing that.
I just can't imagine listen with listening to you, Jenny.
And you know I love you so much that anything
nothing could make me cry immediately like that. I am
just like mentally steady Eddy. I'm quirky, I'm maybe a

(03:32):
little bit paranoid, but I have I'm just very blessed
and very lucky that if something upsets me, I'm like,
I get pissy or I get quiet, but nothing really
fucks me up, you know what I mean? Does that
make sense? Are you the same way, Bailey or No?
Nothing you could say to me right now outside of
your family just died in a train crash would make

(03:53):
me that upset.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, I mean, but I also don't have I don't
struggle with like mental illn.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Right, And that's what and that's what I mean. Yeah,
And that's what I mean. We're very blessed to not.
I don't want to make it say like I'm normal
and you're not. But I don't wrestle with that, and
I feel bad that Jenny has to struggle with something
like that. Yeah, but I will give you this bit
of praise ninety four point seven percent of the time.

(04:21):
I don't you're just Jenny.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah you know, yeah, but that's like because she's good
at it and she's had a lot of practice with it,
so she's just because she seems normal doesn't mean I'm
not that you're not normal Jenny. But you know what
I mean, like, Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's fine, you know, I'm like, I really am not
like I feel like I'm crying right now, but I'm
not like struggling that much.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I just the holidays are hard. It's been a hard
year for me. So yeah, if we.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Saying Christmas carols, would it cheer you?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Up?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Deck the halls with bows up fall? No? Nothing, I
want to hip hoppoonamous. Bailey's not having any of this,
because Bailey usually like joins right in with my silliness
and stupid. I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
I don't want to make light of Jenny.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I make light of everything I think my job is
to make light of things that people shouldn't make light of. No,
this joke, this joke again is falling flat. But see
that's my that's my going right.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Also it's hard for me to laugh.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's my go to is when you.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Appreciate the lightheartedness that Dave brings to these conversations. Because
I don't want to be crying right now, but I
can't control myself a lot of times when I do
get upset about something, so I do appreciate it instead
of just like harping on my sadness.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
And I think you know me. Also, if I didn't
know you, I wouldn't be being a dick over here.
But you know me, and you know that I'm like,
you know, doing it with the best intentions of like
you know, like shifting you abruptly and you know, making
your move. I learned that a lot of that from Steve,
because Steve was one of the funniest people ever, and
so much what Steve was did was bad timing, inappropriate,

(05:55):
horribly offensive, but it always made me laugh. Like I
went through some shit. I think I've told you guys,
and I've never talked about it. One day maybe I will.
I went through some shit ten to twelve years ago
and it was awful, and Steve, that motherfucker knew how
to shift me instantly by coming over and trying to
give me a kiss on the lips, you know, something
like that, And was like that, how can you be

(06:17):
in a bad mood? How can you be upset when
some big goon is trying to give you a kiss
on the lips and make you laugh.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
So Steve, anyway, Steve was like the king of that,
because well he was the king of that, or the
king of being awkward as fuck because I came in
one morning after my car had been hit like one
week and then a week later it got hit again
because it was a bad winter, yeah, at the park
on the street, and it was all of our last
days before Christmas, and I came in and I just

(06:43):
broke down because I was just like so stressed out,
and Steve and I were the first people here, and
he didn't know what to do. So then Fallon comes
in and Steve is like, I don't know what to do.
Jenny's crying, and found like, well, go fucking just give
her a hug or something like Jesus, why do you
have to be so awkward sometimes? Because like Steve was
like that, but he also was awkward and didn't know

(07:03):
how to handle things like it was part.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Of his charm. Seriously, I really missed Steve in that
way because I always love Steve because he was just
everybody loved him. He was just one of those guys.
Now I'm going to cry because I love Steve and
I miss you. Here's an email. Joe Gonzalez, our buddy
who lives out and I think Turlock, California. Remember Joe

(07:25):
came out with his wife, Yes, this summer. He'd never
been here. He found us on iHeartRadio and decided, like
another handful of people, I want to go see Minnesota.
I've never been there before, so inspired solely by this
radio show, Joe came to visit. He went to the
state Fair. The state Fair. Oh no, he.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Wasn't here for the state Fair, but it was early
print the Paisley Park, I know, and he saw the
like cherry in the spoon and his birthday, Yeah, it
was his birthday. I think was here and more like
so in like springish that sounds right, but I don't
remember what else he did. I think he went to
like Matt's Bar and all of you know the stuff
that you tell people to do when they visit Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
For well, he writes, and he says, I'm planning my
second trip to Minnesota, but this time down by Albert Lee.
Can you or any fellow listeners give me some ideas
of what to do down there? Spam museums already on
the list, and it can be a state over but
maybe not more than a two hour drive. There is
a cave down there, and I want to say, is
it Wind Cave or Wonderland Cave? Oh, or it could
be Eagle Cave because the boy Scouts camped out down

(08:27):
there one time. I didn't go, but there's a giant,
touristy beautiful cave. Also, you're not terribly far from Bluff
Country like Wabashaw and red Wing. And if you come
in the summer, I would say, maybe go on a boat.
They have beautiful big boat cruises like dinner cruises on

(08:49):
Lake Pepin And that's red Wing Lake city area. That's
a little ways away, but it's about a two hour drive.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah, you're not if you're in down by Albert Lee too,
you're not too far from Rochester.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
In Rochester's got so much cool stuff?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Do they there?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
And yeah, I guess, oh fair Ball, Oh you're you're
near Northfield, Ish Mancato Ish Saint Peter Ish. I don't know.
I got my cat at the Blue Earth Humane Society.
If you want to head over there to see that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Write that down, Joe, Blue Earth Humane Society, Joe, good luck.
I mean seriously, I think maybe if you know something,
let us know right in and Joe would appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Far from the Buddy Holly crash site in Iowa, I guess, okay,
anything do you want to.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Hear the story about the Buddy Holly Crash. I guess
I've got some time here. I'm a pilot, so I
know a little bit about this one. So Buddy Holly
was on the Winter Dance Tour in nineteen fifty nine
and he was on it with Richie Vallens and the
Big Bopper and Waylon Jennings and they were in Clear Lake, Iowa,
at the Surf Ballroom which is still there and looks

(09:53):
exactly like it did when Buddy Holly played his last show,
and they was the middle of winter. It was the
Winter Dance Party and their bus was the heater on
the bus was broken down. It was February and Buddy
Holly was doing pretty well, and he said, I am
not going to ride on that bus. They had to
go to Fargo or Grand Forks, but I think Fargo

(10:15):
that night, so he didn't want to. He charted an
airplane to fly from Clear Lake, Iowa, and I think
the airport's actually in Mason City. But he charted an airplane,
a little four seater airplane to fly to Fargo, so
he didn't have to freeze on the bus. Yeah, So

(10:35):
he and the Big Bopper, these are all fifties rock stars,
Richie Vallens who was seventeen, and Waylon Jennings. They were
gonna get in the airplane, but then Waylon Jennings did
a coin flip and he lost to the Big Bopper,
and so Waylon Jennings didn't get to fly on the airplane.
And Waylon Jennings said to the Big Bopper, I hope

(10:57):
your darn plane crashes, and he regretted that for the
rest of his life. So the plane took off. It
was flown by a twenty one year old pilot, Jeez,
who was not qualified or licensed to fly in thick weather,
so he could fly only if you could see outside.

(11:18):
You are on an airplane and you look outside, you
can't see anything but clouds, or you're above the clouds
and you can't see the ground. You have to be
specially licensed to fly in that. This kid was not.
But he also didn't know the weather was going to
be that bad. Yeah, so he took off. And then
when it's kind of like if your friend blindfolds you
and then spins you around, you don't know which way

(11:40):
is up or down? Oh no, And that's what happens.
They call it spatial disorientation. He didn't know which way
was up or down, left or right, and he crashed,
and he did. The plane exploded into a million pieces,
and you can still go visit the crash site. They
all died instantly, and the crash site is still marked
down there in the armor that owns it doesn't mind

(12:01):
you coming on to take a look.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
So that's what I know. I know too much about
the body Buddy Holly plane crash.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
All I know about Buddy Holly is that I thought
he was cute, and that's kind of it.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Honestly, didn't know that. That's how he died.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
But so you're like, as a pilot, you said that
you don't know if you're going up or down? Is
it not a matter of pulling the wheel like back
and that would take you up versus forward would take
you down.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's the That's a really good question, because you can
be going straight up and your inner ear, if you
can't see anything outside, your inner ear will tell you
you're going down.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh geez.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
So you could be going straight up and if you
think you're going down, you're going to pull back on
the yoke and then you're going to go up, and
then the plane will stall and fall into the ground.
Or you might think you're straight. This is much more common.
You might think you're straight and level, but you're actually
in a steep turn. So then you will try to

(12:57):
turn and it only gets worse. So it's called space disorientation,
and it is overwhelming. That's what killed JFK. Junior. Is
he took off. He wasn't qualified to fly in fog
and clouds, and he did. And it's there's just all
kinds of other things that I could talk about. But
you think you are headed straight and level when you're

(13:18):
actually headed straight toward the ground.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I feel bad for Whylan Jennings too, just in general,
like knowing that you're the only one who didn't go
and then you're the only one who survived and.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
He dealt without the rest of his life. And he said,
I hope your darn playing crashes. So very interesting. Okay,
let's do another one. This one says I want to
ask Bailey if you got the Christmas Diet Coke sweater
that I sent her. Tyler wants to know.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
I did get one, and Fallon got one too, and
they're here. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Tyler.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Fallon got one too.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh so we're gonna match. Ah.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
I said that we could potentially wear them to the
Christmas party and hold hands.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Is there a Christmas party?

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
We don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Okay, we've said we kind of joked about this off
last week, but we'll find out a week before it happens,
because that's typically and that's usually not till January, which
is always kind of like, why can't we do it
before the holidays? I don't really get.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
That cheaper rent over at the bowling Alley. Yeah, I
think is what it is.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
When our Halloween party wasn't until after Halloween too, and
then I feel like anytime you're doing something after the
holiday itself, it feels weird. So like that true that
Halloween party after Halloween. Okay, we're dressing up still.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Titler goes on to say my other question. Have any
of your office pranks been so funny that HR or
your bosses wanted to hear them too? Or got you
in trouble? He says, I recently got in trouble by
putting random Playboy magazines above coworkers' desks. I placed it
so would fall out onto a desk when a cabinet
was open. Well, admin was in the room when the

(14:54):
magazine fell out, and I got called to their office. Lol.
They were not happy. Good bit, Tyler. Anyways, Thanks, I
hope you all have a merry Christmas. We appreciate you, Tyler,
and thanks for the sweaters. That is very kind.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Did the mouse prank on Dave, but I don't think
anyone wanted to get involved.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I'm looking back on that, I don't know why I
fell for that.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I don't know either because I was so good at acting.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well you were, But I if I look back, there's
no way that you two number one would have tried
to catch a mouse under a pan. Number two would
have been able to catch a mouse under a pan.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
That was the part that I thought that you would
know we had to be pranking you because I've had
mice in my house. They're impossible to catch unless you
get someone out to help you, or you put out
some traps. So I was shocked that you believed and you,
I mean at least unless you were acting.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
And you weren't acting though. Yeah, I was like, wow, we.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Got them, except for you didn't do what we wanted.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
We wanted you to, like, try to get it into
something else.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I don't want to get bit by a mouse. No,
the video is still on Dave Ryan's show on Instagram
if you want to check that out. Good bit. Last email,
and here we go from Josh, who is a contributing
writer and also a pilot checking in. He says, I
know the question was asked before on the Minnesota Goodbye

(16:21):
on why you all like to live in Minnesota, But
my question is what would make you leave Minnesota. I
lived there for thirty eight years and those cold winners
were too much. I now live in Texas. Reason I
ask is my job currently brought me here to Minnesota
over the weekend it was minus five and minus nine.
It reaffirmed my decision to leave six years ago. Thanks
for the playing porn pictures. I appreciate that he is

(16:42):
a pilot now and flies for the airlines, and that
is super cool because I've known Josh long enough. I
think I knew him when he was just a new pilot.
So what keeps you here? I'm going to say, my
job and Alison and I like it here. Yeah, but
I can see why somebody would want to leave because
it's so cold.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
I think the only reason I would leave is if
I went somewhere on vacation loved it so much and
wanted to stay. Because I love it here so much,
I never want to leave because I have my job,
I have multiple jobs here, I have my family is here,
I have there's things to do here. But I would
never leave.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I have not left because I could not afford to
probably live in any of the places I want to
live in, because they all involved being around mountains, and
all of those cities have gotten so ungodly expensive to
live in, so I don't think I could ever afford
to live in those cities or at least like afford
to live in home with the lifestyle I have here.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Honestly, No, that totally makes sense because if you move,
it's like, if you live in Oklahoma, it's a more
affordable because it's Oklahoma and it's like prairies and not
very pretty. I'm sure there's pretty parts of Oklahoma. But
if you live like anywhere in Colorado, if you live
on the flatland, it's affordable. The closer you get to

(17:54):
the mountains in Colorado, or if you're on a mountain side,
it's more expensive. Yeah, that's just the way it is. Yeah, Okay,
what about you? What would make you leave? I don't
think that. I think that the only thing is that,
you know, we get tired of the cold. But you know,
we don't want to leave Alison here because Alison is
I mean, she's actually got the most extended family. She's

(18:17):
got a husband, she's got three kids, in laws, that
type of thing. But we just I don't know she
We would feel bad leaving Alison stranded here. So I
don't know. What about you and what do you want
to say? In a Minnesota goodbye email? Send your email
to Ryan's show at KDWB at dot com and we'll
get you on tomorrow's Minnesota Goodbye.
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