May 2, 2025 • 30 mins
We talk to Jennifer Mayerle about her recent true crime documentary, Jenny tells us about beloved movies that almost didn't make it, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are full of special guests here in the studio
this morning, and this one I was I found out
about because of a podcast video documentary about a murder
here in the Twin Cities, and I like a lot
of people love true crime, and so Jennifer Maierly, who
is over at Channel four investigative reporter, did this amazing documentary.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning, Jennifer, Good morning. So happy to join you
on this Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm amazed you came in serious. I'm like, you can
be on the phone. She's like, I will come in
if you want to. I'm like, no, okay, Well that's great.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm so happy to come in to be here with
all of you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, thank you. And you've listened to Katie WB of course,
and and that's super cool. And you're from here've been
at Channel four for eleven years investigative reporting. How did
you come across this particular story, And tell me a
little bit about this story because it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
There are so many twists and turns with this story.
But the way that it started is I met the
family in twenty nineteen, and I don't think I'm giving
it away to say I met.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Them during the trial.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
After an arrest had been made in this nineteen ninety
three cold case. So it all started with a relationship
with the family of the victim, Jeanie Childs, and they
always said at some point, when the time was right,
they wanted to tell more of her story than what
people were hearing in court, more of how she lived
versus how she died. And so it started with that.
But if we want to go back to what happened,
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it starts in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Nineteen ninety three, which is the year I started here.
So it was a long time ago, and it was
a murder that they could not solve, and they looked
at different people and they just couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, I will say this was a graphic crime scene.
It was a brutal, gruesome murder. Jeanie was stabbed at
least sixty five times.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Geez, now that's a sixty five times. That's like a
rage killing. Where was this? This was an apartment building
that some of us might recognize.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's called the Horn Towers.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's in South Minneapolis, and it's three distinct, kind of
grayish looking towers, So you might not know it by
that name. But if you've driven by it, you would
recognize these three buildings.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They kind of stand out in self an airplas.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So she lived there, and then how did things develop?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Sure, so some the shower was left running, a neighbor
reported it.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
They came and they found her body.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
They discovered her body, They followed up leads her boyfriend
who was living there. He had an alibi. He was
out of town on a motorcycle trip. They checked his DNA.
So here's what's interesting. Nineteen ninety three. We realized that
DNA was very new, but they knew.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
To collect it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
This scene had a lot of blood, so they collected evidence.
This woman also worked as a sex worker, so they
knew there could be other kind of evidence there. And
one discovery that really stood out in the name of
our documentary is footprint to Murder. There was a bloody
footprint left behind barefoot a barefoot.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
This is not a shoeprint.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh, I was gonna say, I thought shoe, So it
was a fun.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And your actual foot.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And bart Epstein, who was a forensic scientist with a
Bureau of Criminal Apprehension at the time, had the foresight
to say, we need to preserve these we need to
get the DNA. We also need to preserve these footprints
because he thought on that day, June thirteenth, nineteen ninety three,
if they could figure out and match who that footprint
belonged to, they could find the killer.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
But they could not. For a long time.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
They tried.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They tried to match the footprint for years. What's interesting
is it can eliminate suspects as well, because it doesn't
just find the person who did it, but you try
to match it and it doesn't match. So her boyfriend
was eliminated as a suspect, some of her clients were eliminated,
people in the building, and it went cold.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
For years, like fifteenish years.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, it wasn't reopened again until twenty fifteen, which is
twenty fifteen, So yeah, twenty ish years. And then they
didn't get any hits on the DNA through the National
DNA databayt base where criminals DNA can be there. In
twenty eighteen, a couple of years later, there was a
case out in California, a notorious serial killer, the Golden
(04:13):
State Killer. Oh, I've heard of that, Yeah, And they
use a new tool called forensic investigative genetic genealogy.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Have you heard of this?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, what does that mean? Okay, so you know how
we can get our DNA done. You can submit it
to a commercial or consumer database.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah. Well that's what they looked at.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They took the DNA from the crime scene and they
put it in one of those commercial databases to see
if there was any match there. Because this person didn't
have to commit a crime, that would be the National
Criminal Database DNA DABASE.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It is just had to have a relative.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Of the killer to have submitted DNA to try to
create a family tree.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And that's how the biggest break in this case.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Some kind of like genealogy person who's like, I just
wanted to know who my great great uncle is.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, it's like, well, you helped solve a crime.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So they traced it down to this guy who probably
had gotten away with it for nearly twenty years, and
he was like a hot in the podcast. In the
video they call him a hockey dad. He's like a
business owner, hockey dad, family guy, goes to church, normal
ordinary looking guy, met his.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Wife the same year of the murder, one month before
the murder, married three kids. Hockey dad, business owner and
I Santi had arrests in his history, so when they
started looking at him, found arrest for solicitation of prostitution,
one conviction, one dismissed, and so they started following him.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
We detail all of this in the documentary and.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So interesting how they get his DNA because they followed
him around. They went to hockey games and tried to
get his like dirty napkin out of the trash, and
eventually they got his DNA and said, boom, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I feel like I don't want you to tell me
too much more because I want to like go. You
can watch and listen, right, you can watch. So it's
a documentary, so it's all video. And I have to
give props to Grant Virden, who's the photojournalist I worked with.
He was the photojournalist and the editor, and he did
an incredible job bringing this story to life. The other
thing that I mentioned is, you know, I really got
to know this family of Genie Child's, and you know,
(06:19):
it really changed my perspective on true crime because we
watch these and it's interesting and there's these twists and turns, but.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, you're kind of removed from it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But now these are real families real loss, real grief,
real pain. All these years later, and right here there
are neighbors, yeah, you know, right here, And so it's
given me a different perspective, which I really appreciate. And
they wanted all of her story to be told, the
hard parts, the good parts. She lived a happy but
troubled life. And they were okay with the graphic images
(06:51):
that we show because they wanted.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
People to know how bad this was. And it is
a little more graphical.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Give that disclaimer that it's more sensitive than what we
would know normally show on.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
WCCO, but it's because and we didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
We don't show everything, and it's a it's a limited
part of the sixty five minute documentary, but they felt
and we did, it was important to show just how
how gruesome.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is that you don't think it's One of the things is,
you know, true crime is everybody just not everybody, but
Jenny hates it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I think it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I am just not like a graphic person, and I
don't like murder, so I get it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's hard for I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Then some people just don't. But I love true crime.
I watched like the forty eight Hours Mystery and Joe
Kenda and all that stuff, and I watched I was
telling the story about how I was in the car.
I couldn't watch it, so I was driving through Colorado
for an hour and five minutes. I listened to it
like a podcast, and it was super compelling, even as
a podcast. But then at the airport I had to
(07:49):
go back and see whateverbody looked.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Like, Okay, well, I'm glad to hear that it works
that way too.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So you can listen to it. If you don't want
to see the graphic, you can listen to it. You
have an option.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's called Footprint to Murder, and it's fascinating. It's local,
and it's by a local reporter, Jennifer Marrilely from over
at Channel four. Tell Frank and Amelia that I said what.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I absolutely will and you can find it on the
w CCO YouTube page. We also have a page if
you want to see a timeline of events and some
more information.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
W CCO dot com slash Footprint to Murder.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Will you be doing more of these? Are there more than?
Is this kind of a one off kind of a
thing or what? Do you never know?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I hope we do more. We'll keep your posting yeh
do yes.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Hey once again, it's called Footprint to Murder and if
you look on the WCCO YouTube page you can find it. Jennifer,
thanks for coming in. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
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Speaker 6 (09:15):
So I have a list of beloved movies that faced
so many issues that they almost did not.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Make it to the big screen.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
So I will tell you why they almost didn't make
it to the big screen.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
We'll start with Jaws.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
So I think this is kind of obvious, but obviously
the difficulties of filming in open water were a huge
factor and why production was a nightmare, and then budget
restraints and logistical difficulties. So Steven Spielberg really reeled back
his use of special effects on this movie, like he
wanted more, but and then improvised some stuff and created
more tension and suspense without the special effects, and that's
(09:50):
how the movie was able to be made and done.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You know what, I've heard that the mechanical Shark was
a nightmare. It kept sinking and it wouldn't work, and
it was like, but if you watch that movie, it
is there is not a part where you go that
looks first. Yeah, I agree, so realistic.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I've never seen it, and I'm kind of scared. Is
it scary?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I don't, It's it's dramatic, not sary.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
And also you pretty much know when something bad is
gonna happen because you got the So okay, another movie
toy story two, this is wow.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
If you didn't know this.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
During production, one of the animators was cleaning out the
files on the computer and accidentally erased ninety percent of
the film, like it was completely gone, and the only
reason it was recovered was because a director called Galen
was on maternity leave and had copied the file to
her home computer. Oh my, so they were able to
(10:45):
recover it because she had it on her home computer.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And then make it otherwise than almost.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Wild Because Toy Story two, they say that, like on
a scale of like the best movies of all time
or whatever, that this one met so many different like
bullet points for the scale of best movie.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Really it's the.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Best movie of all times. Toy Story too, and they
almost lost and they almost lost it.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
And I haven't seen some of these movies, but they're
still like class. These are really big movies that made
a ton of money, very well known. But Gladiator also
didn't almost happen because there was like some issues with
like shooting in an unfinished script. But the main thing
was that Oliver Reid played Antonius Proximo, and he died
during the filming and after an incident.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
In a bar.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I asked, wow, okay.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
So the film was still able to be completed after
he had passed away, and they just used a body
double and cgi for him.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Were glad which was twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So really, I know that.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Let's see Let's go to the Emperor's New Groove, Cousco.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Everyone loves Cusco.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
But this classic almost got scrapped entirely because the producer,
Randy Fulmer, wanted to rework the entire concept in two
weeks due to test screenings going badly.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Oh so they did.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
It, tested it, it went so bad, and then wanted
to rework it. But then Randy managed the impossible task
and despite the issues, the movie was still released and done.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
How it was, the test screens were really.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Really bad.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
If I was in that test screen, I was probably
a part of the contribution.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I do not care for that movie. Really, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I like that movie.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
These are movies that almost did make it to the
big screen. They were almost scrapped before they made it.
Rocky Okay. So, while he's known for starring in the hit,
Sylvester Stallone actually also wrote that script if you don't
know it, So while the studios were excited by the idea,
they didn't have as much faith in him as an
actor due to his lack of like star power. Yeah,
(12:45):
but however, Sylvester insisted that the movie being made with
him as the lead or not at all, and his
fight paid off because obviously that happened. So it was
almost not made because they did not want him as
the lead in it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Obviously through like that whole thing when he I went
to see it and it was like just such an
amazing nobody ever heard of this guy And the music.
I mean, you talk about how important music is in
our lives. The music of that show Bump Bump that
I don't think it would have been the film it
was had it not been for that music.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, I agree, I loved it.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
We've talked about this one on the show before, but
it was also new information to me.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
The Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
This one almost didn't make it because of like safeguarding
laws and just like apathy towards the cast and crew.
But we've talked about the big mishap that happened. Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
So Dave, I feel like you've talked about this recently.
Be looking at me like you don't know. So the
film had a lot of rewrites and all of that stuff.
But also the safety issues were huge because Margaret Hamilton
(13:46):
suffered burns all over her body. But Buddy Ebson was
hospitalized after an allergic reaction to his silver makeup and
pretty much everything Poor Judy Garland in heard, which we
kind of know about.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
She went through a lot on that.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
So basically that movie almost didn't happen because of so
many safety issues, which I guess if you think about
how that movie was put together compared to like, I
don't know, a rom com or a drama or something,
and that does have way more like theatric say, and
not Pyro, but you know what.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, special effect.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah, that's why I'm okay, I'm okay, we could do
one more. Let's go to back to the future. This
one almost think it made. So after five weeks of
shooting with the actor Eric Stoltz as the protagonist, the
decision was made to cut the Poor Guy and recast
Michael J. Fox as the time traveling hero. And while
Michael's performance was fantastic, the late decision resulted in around
(14:42):
four million dollars worth of reshoots and also Doc's famous
Car caused significant delays in production to due to the
fact that it definitely wasn't a performance car. So yeah, there,
I mean, there's even more on here. But It was
a very interesting list of movies that almost didn't make it,
but they ended.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Up being If you ever watch clips of Eric Staltz
playing Marty McFly, he played him as dark, and he
played him as like, you know, questioning everything, and it
wasn't working. And so the director's like five weeks in,
going this is not working. So they got Michael J. Fox,
who was like a little cherubic, little cute teenage boy
is cute, and they're like, oh, and he played it
(15:20):
perfect and the chemistry between him and Doc Brown is
like unmistakable. I'll give you one more footnote that the DeLorean.
You might think it's a really cool car. That car
was underpowered, mechanical, bucket of boltsan was a garbage car. Really,
Oh it really was. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
So there was a time, a very long stretch of
my life where I thought a Delorian was only a
car that's in back to the future.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I did not realize it was a real car back.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
In the eighties. All right, thank you, Jenny, will be right.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Back show on Katie w B.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, let's get into it. I'm gonna give you this
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happy because it's Friday, and it's supposed to be gorgeous
summer like this weekend, but not too hot, and the
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Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah.
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Speaker 5 (16:30):
It's been a minute since I've asked a stupid question
on the Daily Bailey, So I've got a stupid question today.
If you could anamorph's style transform into one animal for
thirty minute increments, what animal would you choose?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
And why?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I got it?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Are you familiar with anamorphs, David?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean I think I can figure out what it
is just by the context of the.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Book series, where there's like a person on one end
and then they slowly like morph into an animal. Andy, Uh,
that's animorphs. Okay, Okay, it's also a TV show. I
think I've heard of it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, So if you could anamorph's style transform into one
animal for thirty minute increments.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
What would that animal be, Dave a moth.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
By the top of my head, I almost hid a beagle. No,
an eagle. An eagle, yes, an eagle, because they're majestic
and they're beautiful and they fly and live on cliffs
and people respect them. You know. I would want to
be like a robin, because robins are you know, there's
ordinary the worms.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, but he's smart too, because you could travel. Yeah,
you could get places pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Exactly right. Yeah, and I got big talents.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
They got pretty big talents tallengs.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yes, yeah, okay, Jenny.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Well, I was going to say some form of a bird,
like an eagle as well, so that I could travel
to like different places in those thirty minutes or whatever
however long I'm an eagle, but I actually I am going
to switch to a mountain lion because then I could
be like kind of the king of the hill in
the Rockies and stuff, because people are scared of mountain lions.
Other animals are scared of mountain lions. And I could
(17:59):
still go have these beautiful views of the mountains because.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm living in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, okay, dang.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay, vont uh some type of bear?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
What.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I've been doing a lot of research on bears. What's
that thing they say? If it's brown, laid down, if
it's white, good night, If it's a black attack.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It's yeah, black attack, brown, get down, white, good night.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But you're supposed to attack a black bear?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
No, you go, you make yourself big, You puld your
hands up, and you're like, you go, hey bear.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Hey bear, want some of these duckarous Hey bear? I
would run. I would do the wrong thing. I would
run to a tree and climate, which is exactly what
you're not supposed to do. And that's why I want
to be a bear, because I want to chase after you.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Oh okay, okay, Well you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Guys all picked really good ones because honestly, the first
one that I thought of was I'd want to turn
into a cat because it's only for thirty minute increments,
and that can be my thirty minute nap, because no
one naps better than a cat in a sunbeam. Okay,
what if you were a cat, Dave, and you lay
down in a sunbeam, they close their eyes out like.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
A like this is the difference between me and you? Yeah,
because I'm looking for adventure flying and you're looking for
a better way to nap.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Well, I think I think we.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
All picked something that very much fits our personality. Like
I wanted to be in the mountains, wants to terrorize people,
wants to just see the world and see the majestice,
and Bailey wants to.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I want to nap and get a tan at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So could you throw a snack in there too, Give me.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
A little snacky That sounds nice. So there's the daily Bailey.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Just if you could anamorph style transform into one animal
for thirty minutes, what animal would that be?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And why?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Ask your family? Ask your friends?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, why not, think Bailey. We'll be back when we're
not going anywhere. Ed Shearon has got new music out.
I'll play some of that for you on Dave's Dirt.
Coming up next, Dave Ryan Show, kd WB. The wild
season has ended. They lost Vegas in game number was
game six? I think it was, Yes, it was it
was a game five or game.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It was game six.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Okay, Actually, hold on my friend host for the while
I can look up his thing.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh okay, there, while you're looking, they're opening a hotel
on Lake Minnetonka.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, it's open.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I think I think it was open technically yesterday.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
What part of Lake Minnetonka is this hotel? Because back
in the early nineteen hundreds that used to be like,
you know, nobody really lived out there, but there was
resort hotels and you would take a train or a
trolley from Minneapolis out to Lake Minataka to stay at
the fancy resort.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Hotel boardwalk like somewhere in time.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I mean, okay, sure, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's very close to Fletcher's.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Oh okay, it's like super super right off of Shoreline Drive.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Okay, very cool. Anyway, that is opening, and I think
that is it for that. There was one Oh what
do you guys doing this weekend? I will just tell
you a little bit about what I'm doing this weekend.
We got an RV. I've always wanted an RV my
entire adult life, and I've never gotten one. And I
finally said, what am I waiting for? What do you?
Sometimes in life it's like one day, one day, one day,
(20:55):
what are you waiting for? Get your damn thing? Get
you want a snowmobile? Get you damn snowmobile? You want
to go to Greece? What are you waiting for? Go
to Greece. So we got the RV and we are
taking it out camping this week into a local campground
and setting it up and trying to work the everything
from the toilet to the water, to the electric to
(21:17):
the heat to the generator, all that stuff we have.
Me ain got no idea what we're doing, no idea.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I want to tell the story about how you can
figure out why the lights weren't going on yesterday.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Well there was a little bit of a story there,
thanks Shin. So I take it out and I start experimenting.
I level it, so I'm pretty much that was cool.
I got it leveled, and then I'm like, okay, what's next. Electricity?
Well we didn't. We weren't at a campground. We were
in Lakeman to wash the park, just parked on a
level spot. So I got the generator fired up. Oh good,
Well that's a good start. Butator's humming. No lights, no power.
(21:53):
Lights in the fridge are on microwaves, not on what
ah man, I'm about to call the dealership. And I
noticed a big giant switch about the size of a
human head that says power. I hit that switch and
everything came to life, bought like a Christmas tree. You know,
that's what it takes.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Looking around, looking.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Do you think you're going to be the smarter one
when it comes to working this RV or is it
going to be Susan?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
No question. No, she's left everything up to me.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It seems like there is some question you couldn't find
the power question.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
No, no, No, she didn't do nothing. She was busy
like she is making the bed.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, I was going to say, I don't believe she
didn't do nothing. She's going to be the one that
plans to make sure you guys have all of the
silverware pans you need.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Easy easy stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Generator, you plug it in. I'm gonna work on the
Wi Fi Wi Fi, I'm gonna work on the.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
The the poop you do have to empty that? Are
you going to try to avoid using the bathroom and
try to use the campground correct? That's the smart thing
to do because otherwise you have to deal with emptying
and cleaning it all the time, and it's much easier
to just walk to the campground bathroom.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And use that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, here's what we found on Amazon. Basically, it's like
a garbage bag for your toilet. Oh yeah, so you
put it onto your toilet, you do your business, and
then you crinkle it up and you toss it out
the window.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I mean, I just use a coolip container when I
go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You're amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Number one. I won't go into details about when I.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Say, for number two, it's a stump. For number two,
you go find a vener at stump.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Sometimes it doesn't work when you're doing a snowboarding trip.
Though there's not many stumps around. They're all hidden in
the snow bangummer, so that doesn't work. But yeah, I
just go in a cool wip container and then I
throw it out the window.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You're magnificent.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You are magnificent, Jenny, Jenny appreciate that. All right, let's
do Dave's Dirt on KTEWB and.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
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Brought you by Himer and Lammers. Six one two injury law.
Speaking of skiing and snowboarding, Gwyneth Paltrow got into a
ski accident with an old guy a couple of years ago,
and he is suing her for a ton of money.
She says the whole trial is ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
The idea that somebody could ski into your back and
knock you down and then sue you. I was like,
this is everything that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
With our legal system.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Literally, I felt like I had to fight it. I
was like, I'm not going to be shaken down here,
like I'm not doing that.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Nobody likes Gwyneth Paltrow anymore, but I think she does
have a point. If somebody skies into the back of you,
they are pretty much guilty. But they saw Gwyneth Paltrow money,
And if you hire a lawyer, you're going to find
some shady lawyer who will be like, I'll take the
case and they'll settle, because what they're hoping is Gwyneth
Paltrow will settle. So if they sue her for fourteen
(24:45):
million dollars and they settle for like twenty thousand dollars,
well that's a win. I guess, yeah, I guess. After
Blues Clue, Steve Burns became a depressed, overweight alcoholic until
he took advice from his TV characters. Is very, very
very dark Gears right after Blues Clues, which is kind
of sad to think because he was such an iconic character. Yeah,
but he said he put on a lot of weight, drank,
(25:06):
stayed in his apartment for like ten years at a time,
and then finally realized that his character on TV says,
when you need help, go ask for it. So that's
what he did. He went and asked for it. I'm
glad this year's Goop Mother's Day Gift Guide. Remember Gwyneth Paltrow,
she's in the dirt twice today. Goop is her website.
It is Goop. They have a Mother's Day Gift guide
(25:28):
includes an adult novelty called The Womanizer Enhance. It's gonna
run you one hundred and fifty nine dollars. I can't
imagine giving that to your mom and going, hey, happy
Mother's Day, Mom.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm thinking of you. You know what to do with this, geez?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It is exactly what you think, but it doesn't look
like what you think.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Well, of course not, because Goop, so it has to
be something stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's kind of stupid. Yeah, but you can go check
that out if you feel like you need to bring.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Three hundred dollars for it or twenty seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Do you know the Kentucky Derby is this weekend.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, going to a Derby party tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Are you really wearing a hat?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Wow? Because I have to leave and go to an
event like right after, so I'm not really getting like derbified.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Can you wear like a fascinator?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So something a little? I have a pink little headband.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I okay, Yeah, it's funny because the Kentucky Derby always
cracks me up. It starts at like five am and
goes until seven pm. It runs all day and I'm exaggerating,
but it does start.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
It's because I think what people don't understand is races
have like nine races throughout the day. I used to
work at Canterbury, so like usually the main races are
race number like seven or eight or something, and the
Derby doesn't happen until like five thirty. But there's five
races ahead of time before the Derby actually happens.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That's the actual race people care about. But it is
a whole day of racing cool.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And then it's like over in two and a half minutes.
And then you see some rich eighty eight year old,
ugly white dude with his gorgeous thirty two year old
wife and it's like, I'm not a fan of you.
How can I be a fan of you? I guess
I'm a fan of the horse and maybe the jockey,
But I'm not a fan of the eighty eight year
old rich white dude with a thirty two year old
hot wife. How can I be a fan of that?
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
My, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Okay, you don't have to be a fan of it.
The support the animal and the jockey.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, all right, that is the dirt on Katie. I'm
gonna give you a couple more because I guess I
want to do some new music for you.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Ed Sheeron's got a song called old Phone. It's brand new,
feeling overwhelming. Sid Maroon five has the new music has
new music called Priceless featuring Lisa very catchy. Selena Gomez
and Bennie Blanco have new music. It's called Talk You
(27:47):
Don't Think So No. This is like a track from
their extended version of the album they put out.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's just okay, I don't mind it. I think it
sounds like slithery, like year.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Do cat. Don Tolliver have a song out called Lose
My Mind, which we World premiered this morning. And it's
part of the F one movie soundtrack with Brad Pitt,
which comes out later on this month. Here is Lose
My Mind. Kesha is in the dirt today. She has
spotted walking around with a rumored boyfriend. So I guess
somebody asked is like, is that your boyfriend? Are you guys? No? No,
(28:23):
I'm just using him him, which is kind of funny
and very very Kesha. Nick Cannon ensures his bizzles for
ten million dollars.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
They were like, well, what's your most valuable asset? Mom?
And you know, I got the insurance policy of office.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's like it's it's you can be so stupid as
to think having what he got sixteen kids now something
like that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Really, what is it?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I was joking twelve kids to think that you can
be a good father. So these kids are going to
grow up without a good father. And all the moms
are not that bright because they slept with Nick Cannon
just because he's Nick Cannon.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
You could argue that they are really bright because they
slept with Nick Cannon because he's Nick Cannon.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Would you argue that they're bright they got that money?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, okay, I got the money.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I think there's more in life than Nick Cannon's money.
Like maybe your present father might be a good idea.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
You know, some people put that high on the list.
Some people put it pretty low.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think I'd rather have a present. I think I'd
rather have a present present father than you know, like
a nice.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Car money could buy you a present father.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I guess the circle continues. All right, that is it
had a great weekend. We will see you back here Monday.
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We are full of special guests here in the studio
this morning, and this one I was I found out
about because of a podcast video documentary about a murder
here in the Twin Cities, and I like a lot
of people love true crime, and so Jennifer Maierly, who
is over at Channel four investigative reporter, did this amazing documentary.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good morning, Jennifer, Good morning. So happy to join you
on this Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm amazed you came in serious. I'm like, you can
be on the phone. She's like, I will come in
if you want to. I'm like, no, okay, Well that's great.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm so happy to come in to be here with
all of you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, thank you. And you've listened to Katie WB of course,
and and that's super cool. And you're from here've been
at Channel four for eleven years investigative reporting. How did
you come across this particular story, And tell me a
little bit about this story because it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
There are so many twists and turns with this story.
But the way that it started is I met the
family in twenty nineteen, and I don't think I'm giving
it away to say I met.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Them during the trial.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
After an arrest had been made in this nineteen ninety
three cold case. So it all started with a relationship
with the family of the victim, Jeanie Childs, and they
always said at some point, when the time was right,
they wanted to tell more of her story than what
people were hearing in court, more of how she lived
versus how she died. And so it started with that.
But if we want to go back to what happened,
(01:24):
it starts in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Nineteen ninety three, which is the year I started here.
So it was a long time ago, and it was
a murder that they could not solve, and they looked
at different people and they just couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, I will say this was a graphic crime scene.
It was a brutal, gruesome murder. Jeanie was stabbed at
least sixty five times.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Geez, now that's a sixty five times. That's like a
rage killing. Where was this? This was an apartment building
that some of us might recognize.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's called the Horn Towers.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's in South Minneapolis, and it's three distinct, kind of
grayish looking towers, So you might not know it by
that name. But if you've driven by it, you would
recognize these three buildings.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
They kind of stand out in self an airplas.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So she lived there, and then how did things develop?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Sure, so some the shower was left running, a neighbor
reported it.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
They came and they found her body.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
They discovered her body, They followed up leads her boyfriend
who was living there. He had an alibi. He was
out of town on a motorcycle trip. They checked his DNA.
So here's what's interesting. Nineteen ninety three. We realized that
DNA was very new, but they knew.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
To collect it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
This scene had a lot of blood, so they collected evidence.
This woman also worked as a sex worker, so they
knew there could be other kind of evidence there. And
one discovery that really stood out in the name of
our documentary is footprint to Murder. There was a bloody
footprint left behind barefoot a barefoot.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
This is not a shoeprint.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh, I was gonna say, I thought shoe, So it
was a fun.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And your actual foot.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And bart Epstein, who was a forensic scientist with a
Bureau of Criminal Apprehension at the time, had the foresight
to say, we need to preserve these we need to
get the DNA. We also need to preserve these footprints
because he thought on that day, June thirteenth, nineteen ninety three,
if they could figure out and match who that footprint
belonged to, they could find the killer.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
But they could not. For a long time.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
They tried.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They tried to match the footprint for years. What's interesting
is it can eliminate suspects as well, because it doesn't
just find the person who did it, but you try
to match it and it doesn't match. So her boyfriend
was eliminated as a suspect, some of her clients were eliminated,
people in the building, and it went cold.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
For years, like fifteenish years.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, it wasn't reopened again until twenty fifteen, which is
twenty fifteen, So yeah, twenty ish years. And then they
didn't get any hits on the DNA through the National
DNA databayt base where criminals DNA can be there. In
twenty eighteen, a couple of years later, there was a
case out in California, a notorious serial killer, the Golden
(04:13):
State Killer. Oh, I've heard of that, Yeah, And they
use a new tool called forensic investigative genetic genealogy.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Have you heard of this?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, what does that mean? Okay, so you know how
we can get our DNA done. You can submit it
to a commercial or consumer database.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah. Well that's what they looked at.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They took the DNA from the crime scene and they
put it in one of those commercial databases to see
if there was any match there. Because this person didn't
have to commit a crime, that would be the National
Criminal Database DNA DABASE.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It is just had to have a relative.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Of the killer to have submitted DNA to try to
create a family tree.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And that's how the biggest break in this case.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Some kind of like genealogy person who's like, I just
wanted to know who my great great uncle is.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, it's like, well, you helped solve a crime.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So they traced it down to this guy who probably
had gotten away with it for nearly twenty years, and
he was like a hot in the podcast. In the
video they call him a hockey dad. He's like a
business owner, hockey dad, family guy, goes to church, normal
ordinary looking guy, met his.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Wife the same year of the murder, one month before
the murder, married three kids. Hockey dad, business owner and
I Santi had arrests in his history, so when they
started looking at him, found arrest for solicitation of prostitution,
one conviction, one dismissed, and so they started following him.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
We detail all of this in the documentary and.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So interesting how they get his DNA because they followed
him around. They went to hockey games and tried to
get his like dirty napkin out of the trash, and
eventually they got his DNA and said, boom, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
I feel like I don't want you to tell me
too much more because I want to like go. You
can watch and listen, right, you can watch. So it's
a documentary, so it's all video. And I have to
give props to Grant Virden, who's the photojournalist I worked with.
He was the photojournalist and the editor, and he did
an incredible job bringing this story to life. The other
thing that I mentioned is, you know, I really got
to know this family of Genie Child's, and you know,
(06:19):
it really changed my perspective on true crime because we
watch these and it's interesting and there's these twists and turns, but.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, you're kind of removed from it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But now these are real families real loss, real grief,
real pain. All these years later, and right here there
are neighbors, yeah, you know, right here, And so it's
given me a different perspective, which I really appreciate. And
they wanted all of her story to be told, the
hard parts, the good parts. She lived a happy but
troubled life. And they were okay with the graphic images
(06:51):
that we show because they wanted.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
People to know how bad this was. And it is
a little more graphical.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Give that disclaimer that it's more sensitive than what we
would know normally show on.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
WCCO, but it's because and we didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
We don't show everything, and it's a it's a limited
part of the sixty five minute documentary, but they felt
and we did, it was important to show just how
how gruesome.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is that you don't think it's One of the things is,
you know, true crime is everybody just not everybody, but
Jenny hates it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I think it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I am just not like a graphic person, and I
don't like murder, so I get it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's hard for I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Then some people just don't. But I love true crime.
I watched like the forty eight Hours Mystery and Joe
Kenda and all that stuff, and I watched I was
telling the story about how I was in the car.
I couldn't watch it, so I was driving through Colorado
for an hour and five minutes. I listened to it
like a podcast, and it was super compelling, even as
a podcast. But then at the airport I had to
(07:49):
go back and see whateverbody looked.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Like, Okay, well, I'm glad to hear that it works
that way too.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So you can listen to it. If you don't want
to see the graphic, you can listen to it. You
have an option.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's called Footprint to Murder, and it's fascinating. It's local,
and it's by a local reporter, Jennifer Marrilely from over
at Channel four. Tell Frank and Amelia that I said what.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I absolutely will and you can find it on the
w CCO YouTube page. We also have a page if
you want to see a timeline of events and some
more information.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
W CCO dot com slash Footprint to Murder.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Will you be doing more of these? Are there more than?
Is this kind of a one off kind of a
thing or what? Do you never know?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I hope we do more. We'll keep your posting yeh
do yes.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Hey once again, it's called Footprint to Murder and if
you look on the WCCO YouTube page you can find it. Jennifer,
thanks for coming in. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
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Speaker 6 (09:15):
So I have a list of beloved movies that faced
so many issues that they almost did not.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Make it to the big screen.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
So I will tell you why they almost didn't make
it to the big screen.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
We'll start with Jaws.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
So I think this is kind of obvious, but obviously
the difficulties of filming in open water were a huge
factor and why production was a nightmare, and then budget
restraints and logistical difficulties. So Steven Spielberg really reeled back
his use of special effects on this movie, like he
wanted more, but and then improvised some stuff and created
more tension and suspense without the special effects, and that's
(09:50):
how the movie was able to be made and done.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You know what, I've heard that the mechanical Shark was
a nightmare. It kept sinking and it wouldn't work, and
it was like, but if you watch that movie, it
is there is not a part where you go that
looks first. Yeah, I agree, so realistic.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I've never seen it, and I'm kind of scared. Is
it scary?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I don't, It's it's dramatic, not sary.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
And also you pretty much know when something bad is
gonna happen because you got the So okay, another movie
toy story two, this is wow.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
If you didn't know this.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
During production, one of the animators was cleaning out the
files on the computer and accidentally erased ninety percent of
the film, like it was completely gone, and the only
reason it was recovered was because a director called Galen
was on maternity leave and had copied the file to
her home computer. Oh my, so they were able to
(10:45):
recover it because she had it on her home computer.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And then make it otherwise than almost.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Wild Because Toy Story two, they say that, like on
a scale of like the best movies of all time
or whatever, that this one met so many different like
bullet points for the scale of best movie.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Really it's the.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Best movie of all times. Toy Story too, and they
almost lost and they almost lost it.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
And I haven't seen some of these movies, but they're
still like class. These are really big movies that made
a ton of money, very well known. But Gladiator also
didn't almost happen because there was like some issues with
like shooting in an unfinished script. But the main thing
was that Oliver Reid played Antonius Proximo, and he died
during the filming and after an incident.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
In a bar.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I asked, wow, okay.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
So the film was still able to be completed after
he had passed away, and they just used a body
double and cgi for him.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Were glad which was twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So really, I know that.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Let's see Let's go to the Emperor's New Groove, Cousco.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Everyone loves Cusco.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
But this classic almost got scrapped entirely because the producer,
Randy Fulmer, wanted to rework the entire concept in two
weeks due to test screenings going badly.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Oh so they did.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
It, tested it, it went so bad, and then wanted
to rework it. But then Randy managed the impossible task
and despite the issues, the movie was still released and done.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
How it was, the test screens were really.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Really bad.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
If I was in that test screen, I was probably
a part of the contribution.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I do not care for that movie. Really, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I like that movie.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
These are movies that almost did make it to the
big screen. They were almost scrapped before they made it.
Rocky Okay. So, while he's known for starring in the hit,
Sylvester Stallone actually also wrote that script if you don't
know it, So while the studios were excited by the idea,
they didn't have as much faith in him as an
actor due to his lack of like star power. Yeah,
(12:45):
but however, Sylvester insisted that the movie being made with
him as the lead or not at all, and his
fight paid off because obviously that happened. So it was
almost not made because they did not want him as
the lead in it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Obviously through like that whole thing when he I went
to see it and it was like just such an
amazing nobody ever heard of this guy And the music.
I mean, you talk about how important music is in
our lives. The music of that show Bump Bump that
I don't think it would have been the film it
was had it not been for that music.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, I agree, I loved it.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
We've talked about this one on the show before, but
it was also new information to me.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
The Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
This one almost didn't make it because of like safeguarding
laws and just like apathy towards the cast and crew.
But we've talked about the big mishap that happened. Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
So Dave, I feel like you've talked about this recently.
Be looking at me like you don't know. So the
film had a lot of rewrites and all of that stuff.
But also the safety issues were huge because Margaret Hamilton
(13:46):
suffered burns all over her body. But Buddy Ebson was
hospitalized after an allergic reaction to his silver makeup and
pretty much everything Poor Judy Garland in heard, which we
kind of know about.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
She went through a lot on that.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
So basically that movie almost didn't happen because of so
many safety issues, which I guess if you think about
how that movie was put together compared to like, I
don't know, a rom com or a drama or something,
and that does have way more like theatric say, and
not Pyro, but you know what.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, special effect.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Yeah, that's why I'm okay, I'm okay, we could do
one more. Let's go to back to the future. This
one almost think it made. So after five weeks of
shooting with the actor Eric Stoltz as the protagonist, the
decision was made to cut the Poor Guy and recast
Michael J. Fox as the time traveling hero. And while
Michael's performance was fantastic, the late decision resulted in around
(14:42):
four million dollars worth of reshoots and also Doc's famous
Car caused significant delays in production to due to the
fact that it definitely wasn't a performance car. So yeah, there,
I mean, there's even more on here. But It was
a very interesting list of movies that almost didn't make it,
but they ended.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Up being If you ever watch clips of Eric Staltz
playing Marty McFly, he played him as dark, and he
played him as like, you know, questioning everything, and it
wasn't working. And so the director's like five weeks in,
going this is not working. So they got Michael J. Fox,
who was like a little cherubic, little cute teenage boy
is cute, and they're like, oh, and he played it
(15:20):
perfect and the chemistry between him and Doc Brown is
like unmistakable. I'll give you one more footnote that the DeLorean.
You might think it's a really cool car. That car
was underpowered, mechanical, bucket of boltsan was a garbage car. Really,
Oh it really was. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
So there was a time, a very long stretch of
my life where I thought a Delorian was only a
car that's in back to the future.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I did not realize it was a real car back.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
In the eighties. All right, thank you, Jenny, will be right.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Back show on Katie w B.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, let's get into it. I'm gonna give you this
one more time. Happy is the keyword. You should be
happy because it's Friday, and it's supposed to be gorgeous
summer like this weekend, but not too hot, and the
mosquitos are not here yet.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Watch for ticks though, because it's going to be a
bad tick season. A friend of mine found nine ticks
on likes her dog or her Yeah, watch your dogs, Yeah,
and watch your dogs, watch kids, Hija dogs. Okay, happy
is the keyword katiewb dot com and the keyword happy
in the box that pops up and you are in
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for one thousands dollars.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
It's been a minute since I've asked a stupid question
on the Daily Bailey, So I've got a stupid question today.
If you could anamorph's style transform into one animal for
thirty minute increments, what animal would you choose?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
And why?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I got it?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Are you familiar with anamorphs, David?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I mean I think I can figure out what it
is just by the context of the.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Book series, where there's like a person on one end
and then they slowly like morph into an animal. Andy, Uh,
that's animorphs. Okay, Okay, it's also a TV show. I
think I've heard of it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, So if you could anamorph's style transform into one
animal for thirty minute increments.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
What would that animal be, Dave a moth.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
By the top of my head, I almost hid a beagle. No,
an eagle. An eagle, yes, an eagle, because they're majestic
and they're beautiful and they fly and live on cliffs
and people respect them. You know. I would want to
be like a robin, because robins are you know, there's
ordinary the worms.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, but he's smart too, because you could travel. Yeah,
you could get places pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Exactly right. Yeah, and I got big talents.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
They got pretty big talents tallengs.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yes, yeah, okay, Jenny.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Well, I was going to say some form of a bird,
like an eagle as well, so that I could travel
to like different places in those thirty minutes or whatever
however long I'm an eagle, but I actually I am going
to switch to a mountain lion because then I could
be like kind of the king of the hill in
the Rockies and stuff, because people are scared of mountain lions.
Other animals are scared of mountain lions. And I could
(17:59):
still go have these beautiful views of the mountains because.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm living in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, okay, dang.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay, vont uh some type of bear?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
What.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I've been doing a lot of research on bears. What's
that thing they say? If it's brown, laid down, if
it's white, good night, If it's a black attack.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It's yeah, black attack, brown, get down, white, good night.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But you're supposed to attack a black bear?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
No, you go, you make yourself big, You puld your
hands up, and you're like, you go, hey bear.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Hey bear, want some of these duckarous Hey bear? I
would run. I would do the wrong thing. I would
run to a tree and climate, which is exactly what
you're not supposed to do. And that's why I want
to be a bear, because I want to chase after you.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Oh okay, okay, Well you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Guys all picked really good ones because honestly, the first
one that I thought of was I'd want to turn
into a cat because it's only for thirty minute increments,
and that can be my thirty minute nap, because no
one naps better than a cat in a sunbeam. Okay,
what if you were a cat, Dave, and you lay
down in a sunbeam, they close their eyes out like.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
A like this is the difference between me and you? Yeah,
because I'm looking for adventure flying and you're looking for
a better way to nap.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Well, I think I think we.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
All picked something that very much fits our personality. Like
I wanted to be in the mountains, wants to terrorize people,
wants to just see the world and see the majestice,
and Bailey wants to.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I want to nap and get a tan at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So could you throw a snack in there too, Give me.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
A little snacky That sounds nice. So there's the daily Bailey.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Just if you could anamorph style transform into one animal
for thirty minutes, what animal would that be?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And why?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Ask your family? Ask your friends?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, why not, think Bailey. We'll be back when we're
not going anywhere. Ed Shearon has got new music out.
I'll play some of that for you on Dave's Dirt.
Coming up next, Dave Ryan Show, kd WB. The wild
season has ended. They lost Vegas in game number was
game six? I think it was, Yes, it was it
was a game five or game.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It was game six.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Okay, Actually, hold on my friend host for the while
I can look up his thing.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh okay, there, while you're looking, they're opening a hotel
on Lake Minnetonka.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, it's open.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I think I think it was open technically yesterday.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
What part of Lake Minnetonka is this hotel? Because back
in the early nineteen hundreds that used to be like,
you know, nobody really lived out there, but there was
resort hotels and you would take a train or a
trolley from Minneapolis out to Lake Minataka to stay at
the fancy resort.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Hotel boardwalk like somewhere in time.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I mean, okay, sure, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's very close to Fletcher's.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Oh okay, it's like super super right off of Shoreline Drive.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Okay, very cool. Anyway, that is opening, and I think
that is it for that. There was one Oh what
do you guys doing this weekend? I will just tell
you a little bit about what I'm doing this weekend.
We got an RV. I've always wanted an RV my
entire adult life, and I've never gotten one. And I
finally said, what am I waiting for? What do you?
Sometimes in life it's like one day, one day, one day,
(20:55):
what are you waiting for? Get your damn thing? Get
you want a snowmobile? Get you damn snowmobile? You want
to go to Greece? What are you waiting for? Go
to Greece. So we got the RV and we are
taking it out camping this week into a local campground
and setting it up and trying to work the everything
from the toilet to the water, to the electric to
(21:17):
the heat to the generator, all that stuff we have.
Me ain got no idea what we're doing, no idea.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I want to tell the story about how you can
figure out why the lights weren't going on yesterday.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Well there was a little bit of a story there,
thanks Shin. So I take it out and I start experimenting.
I level it, so I'm pretty much that was cool.
I got it leveled, and then I'm like, okay, what's next. Electricity?
Well we didn't. We weren't at a campground. We were
in Lakeman to wash the park, just parked on a
level spot. So I got the generator fired up. Oh good,
Well that's a good start. Butator's humming. No lights, no power.
(21:53):
Lights in the fridge are on microwaves, not on what
ah man, I'm about to call the dealership. And I
noticed a big giant switch about the size of a
human head that says power. I hit that switch and
everything came to life, bought like a Christmas tree. You know,
that's what it takes.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Looking around, looking.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Do you think you're going to be the smarter one
when it comes to working this RV or is it
going to be Susan?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
No question. No, she's left everything up to me.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It seems like there is some question you couldn't find
the power question.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
No, no, No, she didn't do nothing. She was busy
like she is making the bed.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, I was going to say, I don't believe she
didn't do nothing. She's going to be the one that
plans to make sure you guys have all of the
silverware pans you need.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Easy easy stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Generator, you plug it in. I'm gonna work on the
Wi Fi Wi Fi, I'm gonna work on the.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
The the poop you do have to empty that? Are
you going to try to avoid using the bathroom and
try to use the campground correct? That's the smart thing
to do because otherwise you have to deal with emptying
and cleaning it all the time, and it's much easier
to just walk to the campground bathroom.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And use that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, here's what we found on Amazon. Basically, it's like
a garbage bag for your toilet. Oh yeah, so you
put it onto your toilet, you do your business, and
then you crinkle it up and you toss it out
the window.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I mean, I just use a coolip container when I
go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
You're amazing.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Number one. I won't go into details about when I.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Say, for number two, it's a stump. For number two,
you go find a vener at stump.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Sometimes it doesn't work when you're doing a snowboarding trip.
Though there's not many stumps around. They're all hidden in
the snow bangummer, so that doesn't work. But yeah, I
just go in a cool wip container and then I
throw it out the window.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You're magnificent.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You are magnificent, Jenny, Jenny appreciate that. All right, let's
do Dave's Dirt on KTEWB and.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Now the stories that TMC and People Magazine won't touch
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Speaker 1 (23:53):
Brought you by Himer and Lammers. Six one two injury law.
Speaking of skiing and snowboarding, Gwyneth Paltrow got into a
ski accident with an old guy a couple of years ago,
and he is suing her for a ton of money.
She says the whole trial is ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
The idea that somebody could ski into your back and
knock you down and then sue you. I was like,
this is everything that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
With our legal system.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Literally, I felt like I had to fight it. I
was like, I'm not going to be shaken down here,
like I'm not doing that.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Nobody likes Gwyneth Paltrow anymore, but I think she does
have a point. If somebody skies into the back of you,
they are pretty much guilty. But they saw Gwyneth Paltrow money,
And if you hire a lawyer, you're going to find
some shady lawyer who will be like, I'll take the
case and they'll settle, because what they're hoping is Gwyneth
Paltrow will settle. So if they sue her for fourteen
(24:45):
million dollars and they settle for like twenty thousand dollars,
well that's a win. I guess, yeah, I guess. After
Blues Clue, Steve Burns became a depressed, overweight alcoholic until
he took advice from his TV characters. Is very, very
very dark Gears right after Blues Clues, which is kind
of sad to think because he was such an iconic character. Yeah,
but he said he put on a lot of weight, drank,
(25:06):
stayed in his apartment for like ten years at a time,
and then finally realized that his character on TV says,
when you need help, go ask for it. So that's
what he did. He went and asked for it. I'm
glad this year's Goop Mother's Day Gift Guide. Remember Gwyneth Paltrow,
she's in the dirt twice today. Goop is her website.
It is Goop. They have a Mother's Day Gift guide
(25:28):
includes an adult novelty called The Womanizer Enhance. It's gonna
run you one hundred and fifty nine dollars. I can't
imagine giving that to your mom and going, hey, happy
Mother's Day, Mom.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm thinking of you. You know what to do with this, geez?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It is exactly what you think, but it doesn't look
like what you think.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Well, of course not, because Goop, so it has to
be something stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's kind of stupid. Yeah, but you can go check
that out if you feel like you need to bring.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Three hundred dollars for it or twenty seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Do you know the Kentucky Derby is this weekend.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, going to a Derby party tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Are you really wearing a hat?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
Wow? Because I have to leave and go to an
event like right after, so I'm not really getting like derbified.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Can you wear like a fascinator?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So something a little? I have a pink little headband.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I okay, Yeah, it's funny because the Kentucky Derby always
cracks me up. It starts at like five am and
goes until seven pm. It runs all day and I'm exaggerating,
but it does start.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
It's because I think what people don't understand is races
have like nine races throughout the day. I used to
work at Canterbury, so like usually the main races are
race number like seven or eight or something, and the
Derby doesn't happen until like five thirty. But there's five
races ahead of time before the Derby actually happens.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
That's the actual race people care about. But it is
a whole day of racing cool.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And then it's like over in two and a half minutes.
And then you see some rich eighty eight year old,
ugly white dude with his gorgeous thirty two year old
wife and it's like, I'm not a fan of you.
How can I be a fan of you? I guess
I'm a fan of the horse and maybe the jockey,
But I'm not a fan of the eighty eight year
old rich white dude with a thirty two year old
hot wife. How can I be a fan of that?
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
My, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Okay, you don't have to be a fan of it.
The support the animal and the jockey.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, all right, that is the dirt on Katie. I'm
gonna give you a couple more because I guess I
want to do some new music for you.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Ed Sheeron's got a song called old Phone. It's brand new,
feeling overwhelming. Sid Maroon five has the new music has
new music called Priceless featuring Lisa very catchy. Selena Gomez
and Bennie Blanco have new music. It's called Talk You
(27:47):
Don't Think So No. This is like a track from
their extended version of the album they put out.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's just okay, I don't mind it. I think it
sounds like slithery, like year.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Do cat. Don Tolliver have a song out called Lose
My Mind, which we World premiered this morning. And it's
part of the F one movie soundtrack with Brad Pitt,
which comes out later on this month. Here is Lose
My Mind. Kesha is in the dirt today. She has
spotted walking around with a rumored boyfriend. So I guess
somebody asked is like, is that your boyfriend? Are you guys? No? No,
(28:23):
I'm just using him him, which is kind of funny
and very very Kesha. Nick Cannon ensures his bizzles for
ten million dollars.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
They were like, well, what's your most valuable asset? Mom?
And you know, I got the insurance policy of office.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's like it's it's you can be so stupid as
to think having what he got sixteen kids now something
like that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Really, what is it?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I was joking twelve kids to think that you can
be a good father. So these kids are going to
grow up without a good father. And all the moms
are not that bright because they slept with Nick Cannon
just because he's Nick Cannon.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
You could argue that they are really bright because they
slept with Nick Cannon because he's Nick Cannon.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Would you argue that they're bright they got that money?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, okay, I got the money.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I think there's more in life than Nick Cannon's money.
Like maybe your present father might be a good idea.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
You know, some people put that high on the list.
Some people put it pretty low.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think I'd rather have a present. I think I'd
rather have a present present father than you know, like
a nice.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Car money could buy you a present father.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I guess the circle continues. All right, that is it
had a great weekend. We will see you back here Monday.
To get your Monday started the Dave Ryan Show, check
out the Minnesota Goodbye That's our after the show podcast,
And if you missed anything on the show, you can
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