April 29, 2025 • 10 mins
Paige calls in in a pickle over who she should ask to be the sperm donor for her and her wife's baby.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dat ryoshell there. Okay, I think we do. We have
the person on the phone. Okay, Page is on the phone,
and you and I have met before, because we actually
have had a little bit of a connection. Go ahead
and explain Page how we know each other.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So you actually married me and my wife in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I remember, I remember, I remember that. Yeah. So, but
now there's trouble in paradise. Page. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, me and my wife are looking into having a baby,
and I have been trying to talk to her about
potentially using my ex boyfriend as a scrim donor because
I'm always a good person. He's smart, he's good looking.
So I just don't want my wife to feel uncomfortable
because she's she's like weird about it since it's my
ex and since we have relationship prior, she's just a
(01:01):
little bit weird over it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But I see your point. I don't know a lot
about you know, sperm donors and that type of thing.
But I'm gonna guess if you go through a sperm
donor and they stay anonymous, you find out about them,
you know whatever, their you know heighth and whatever. I
don't know their whatever, and uh, and then there's a
process and you pay for that, and then you pay
for the whatever the process is to be inseminated. And
(01:27):
you were talking about how you kind of want to
save all that money and just kind of a DIY
sperm donor kind of a thing, right, yes, definitely, Yeah, Okay,
But what she's uneasy about this one because it's like
she doesn't want your ex boyfriend that you had feelings
(01:49):
for involved in your child's life, right exactly. Talk talk
about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I mean mostly she's she's uncomfortable because she doesn't want
there to be any emotional connection with you know, us
and a baby that it's like she's kind of left
out of the picture. It's like I feel like there
might be a slight bit of jealousy, but more so
just like because it's obviously a baby that we're going
to be raising together. So it's like she doesn't want
my old partner to have any sort of like leeway
(02:19):
over our relationship with our child and things like that,
So she prefers it to be even though it's a
lot more expensive, just going through it more like a
disconnected route.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I wonder what the process is, and I'm not trying
to be gratuitous or silly. But I wonder if you
do you YouTube the process or do you go online?
Like how do you do DIY incemination? Is it as
simple as you know? Like you know, I mean there's
the old turkey based or joke, and I don't really
know that anybody uses a turkey Did you know Bailey
somebody that used like artificial incimination? No, I did.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I have a friend who is so his sister is
also in a two women relationship and they wanted a child,
so he ended up I literally think it was with
a turkey baster giving sperm to his sister's wife. So
so obviously it's not like weird because it's not his
(03:12):
actual sister. Yeah, his sister's wife yep. And so yeah,
and then it worked, so they did it. Yeah, definitely
super DIY, but it worked. A kid looks just like
him and it's I mean, he's his nephew but technically
his son, which is wild to me, but it worked
for him. So I don't really know exactly the way
he explained, it was definitely turkey based situation.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, the turkey baster is like a big eye dropper. Yeah,
I mean it's like and and and you know, not
to get it too much into the physics or the
or anything like that, but I think an eye dropper
would be like the more correct volume, but at the
same time, probably not the right I don't know, okay,
But that's just something else.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I wonder if you're are you like still like friends
with the ex or it was just this kind of like, well,
he was a good guy when we were together, so
now I want to go through him.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well it's not that we've been like really in communication,
but you know, I mean I have seed, you know,
relatively in decent terms over the last couple of years.
But you know, we're not talking all the time or anything.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But you know the guy, you know that he's like,
you know that he's easy, willing. I mean, have you
asked this guy to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
He would be willing.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, he would be willing, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Creation But it's you know, just a question of whether
or not he's doing it for the right reasons.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I guess I do have Tracy on the phone that
we could talk to who about this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So basically, if you just turned the radio on, we're
talking to I think that it's Paige and It's funny
because Paige, I actually married her and her wife back
in that I want to say, twenty seventeen. Does that
sound right? Yeah? Okay, look at that. And so now
you are wanting to have a baby, so you need
the semen donated. And you're like, well, let's use my
ex boyfriend because you know, I don't have feelings for
(04:58):
him anymore. But easy. You know, he's healthy and he's this,
and he's this, and he's this, and he's smart and
he's kind, he's got all the good genes. Let's just
huge him and your wife is like a new Tracy.
Whose side are you on?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Hi Tracy, you hurt the whole conversation. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Had friends that had a baby with their ex and
have raised and he's older now and having kids and
co parenting and figuring that out is messy, and so
I would say I would not do it, because as
a child gets older, it just can get really messy
and become really hard.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But what about what the consensus is via text? I
don't think there's anybody who's saying, yeah, it's a great idea.
I don't think it's a great idea.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
But I mean I feel like if they come up
with like an agreement, like, I feel like it could work.
I'm not saying it it will or it won't, but
I feel like it could work if you make the
agreement with your ex boyfriend, like, hey, I'm married now
we've moved on and hopefully it ended amicably, amicably with yourself. Yeah, yeah,
so I think that he could understand.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Jenny, what do you think.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think that it's too messy. I think that it's
a really bad idea. I just think and also, you
have to think about the kid later in life too.
Who's going to want to know who their father is
most likely? And if it's just like some random person
generated through doctors, that's a different story versus someone who
lives in the same city had a relationship with one
(06:30):
of your moms. I don't know. I think it's a
little too messy, and I feel like I actually am
more so on the wife's side here, where I would
say it's better to go with someone that you don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's kind of what the consensus is via text messages.
I mean, Bailey's looking at text messages and most people
are saying, do not have your ex boyfriend as a
sperm don't.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, they're saying it's like a nightmare waiting to happen,
that there's going to be a lot of jealousy there,
and that makes sense, though I don't see why it
can't be someone you know, maybe not your ex, but like, yes,
if down the line, if the kids like I want
to meet my father, it'd be way easier to be like, oh, well,
your father is my friend Rick and uh here, let's
(07:10):
go meet him. But if your father is like, oh,
it's my ex boyfriend, then that's a little bit yeah, dicey.
So even though I mean, hey, props that your ex
boyfriend was good looking and you want those jeans in
your gene pool, But maybe choosing someone else that's more
like a mutual friend between both you and your wife
would be a good in between, because yes, like going
(07:31):
through a stranger is probably you know, just as there's
no jealousy regardless or in that way. But find like
going through that is probably going to be more expensive,
and that's I think what they're on the struggle bus
here with is the cost.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So these two women, they're married, they want to have
a baby, and one woman used to date guys, and
so she wants to use his sperm to have the baby.
And and a DIY and I guess a lot of
people are saying they sell like home DIY insmination kids
at Target. And it's not a turkey baster nor an eyedropper.
It's more like a syringe and it actually walks you
through the most effective way to do it, which okay, great.
(08:09):
And one of the things that was motivating page is
it's free. It's well, it's basically free for the price
of the kit down at Target. Yeah, I realized there
was a kid at Target. So that's wild.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Seeing those sex messages come in.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Uh, there's a bunch of text messages. This is an
awful idea, too messy with all the feelings that you
would come up with after you had a kid, feelings
that you don't even know yet. Somebody else said there
was a recent news story about a local couple that
used a male friend as a sperm downer, and he
promised he would not be in the child's life as
anything more than a family friend, and then years later
(08:42):
he ended up trying to fight for custody of the child. Oh,
I mean you could, you could probably at least have
a lawyer sign up a document that like, you know
that said that you're not going to ever do anything
like that. And then somebody says, what in the Love
is Blind is going on with group therapy today? Didn't
do you not learn from the show? Was that on
Love is Blind?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It was, but not this past Minneapolis season. It was
a different season where two people got engaged and the
guy had like helped get his ex or friend pregnant. Yes,
she was in a relationship with a famous and then
it was messy and then he actually ended up being
sort of a father figure in the kid's life. And
now the couple from Love is Blind is no longer together.
(09:25):
So yeah, it was a whole dramatic thing.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm sorry, Paige, it looks like nearly I don't think
there's a single person that that I saw that texted
in go ahead and do and you know, use the
ex boyfriend's sperm for the donation. I'm sorry if you
if you're asking for opinions and that's what you did,
nobody is I hate to say it, nobody's on your side.
Page fun Yeah, you know, I mean I think it's
(09:54):
I think it's valuable information. If there was like, you know,
fifty to fifty or it was split a little bit
then be one thing. But people are either given their
opinions or tell them their stories. And I don't think
it sounds like it's a good idea, But I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Could still make a list of other people that could
potentially be donors for you if that's the avenue you
want to go down. That is less strings attached than
an ex.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Page. Good luck, I hope whatever you do, happy baby.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, thank you, thank you, Yeah you.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Bet hey page. Good to talk to you again. Tell
your wife, I said, okay, I will for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Cool that I got to marry them years ago and
here they are still listening to the show. It's funny
how people's lives have changed and now should they're like
at a point where they want to have a baby. Well,
I hope you do.
Dat ryoshell there. Okay, I think we do. We have
the person on the phone. Okay, Page is on the phone,
and you and I have met before, because we actually
have had a little bit of a connection. Go ahead
and explain Page how we know each other.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So you actually married me and my wife in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I remember, I remember, I remember that. Yeah. So, but
now there's trouble in paradise. Page. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, me and my wife are looking into having a baby,
and I have been trying to talk to her about
potentially using my ex boyfriend as a scrim donor because
I'm always a good person. He's smart, he's good looking.
So I just don't want my wife to feel uncomfortable
because she's she's like weird about it since it's my
ex and since we have relationship prior, she's just a
(01:01):
little bit weird over it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But I see your point. I don't know a lot
about you know, sperm donors and that type of thing.
But I'm gonna guess if you go through a sperm
donor and they stay anonymous, you find out about them,
you know whatever, their you know heighth and whatever. I
don't know their whatever, and uh, and then there's a
process and you pay for that, and then you pay
for the whatever the process is to be inseminated. And
(01:27):
you were talking about how you kind of want to
save all that money and just kind of a DIY
sperm donor kind of a thing, right, yes, definitely, Yeah, Okay,
But what she's uneasy about this one because it's like
she doesn't want your ex boyfriend that you had feelings
(01:49):
for involved in your child's life, right exactly. Talk talk
about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I mean mostly she's she's uncomfortable because she doesn't want
there to be any emotional connection with you know, us
and a baby that it's like she's kind of left
out of the picture. It's like I feel like there
might be a slight bit of jealousy, but more so
just like because it's obviously a baby that we're going
to be raising together. So it's like she doesn't want
my old partner to have any sort of like leeway
(02:19):
over our relationship with our child and things like that,
So she prefers it to be even though it's a
lot more expensive, just going through it more like a
disconnected route.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I wonder what the process is, and I'm not trying
to be gratuitous or silly. But I wonder if you
do you YouTube the process or do you go online?
Like how do you do DIY incemination? Is it as
simple as you know? Like you know, I mean there's
the old turkey based or joke, and I don't really
know that anybody uses a turkey Did you know Bailey
somebody that used like artificial incimination? No, I did.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I have a friend who is so his sister is
also in a two women relationship and they wanted a child,
so he ended up I literally think it was with
a turkey baster giving sperm to his sister's wife. So
so obviously it's not like weird because it's not his
(03:12):
actual sister. Yeah, his sister's wife yep. And so yeah,
and then it worked, so they did it. Yeah, definitely
super DIY, but it worked. A kid looks just like
him and it's I mean, he's his nephew but technically
his son, which is wild to me, but it worked
for him. So I don't really know exactly the way
he explained, it was definitely turkey based situation.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, the turkey baster is like a big eye dropper. Yeah,
I mean it's like and and and you know, not
to get it too much into the physics or the
or anything like that, but I think an eye dropper
would be like the more correct volume, but at the
same time, probably not the right I don't know, okay,
But that's just something else.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I wonder if you're are you like still like friends
with the ex or it was just this kind of like, well,
he was a good guy when we were together, so
now I want to go through him.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well it's not that we've been like really in communication,
but you know, I mean I have seed, you know,
relatively in decent terms over the last couple of years.
But you know, we're not talking all the time or anything.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But you know the guy, you know that he's like,
you know that he's easy, willing. I mean, have you
asked this guy to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
He would be willing.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, he would be willing, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Creation But it's you know, just a question of whether
or not he's doing it for the right reasons.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I guess I do have Tracy on the phone that
we could talk to who about this.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So basically, if you just turned the radio on, we're
talking to I think that it's Paige and It's funny
because Paige, I actually married her and her wife back
in that I want to say, twenty seventeen. Does that
sound right? Yeah? Okay, look at that. And so now
you are wanting to have a baby, so you need
the semen donated. And you're like, well, let's use my
ex boyfriend because you know, I don't have feelings for
(04:58):
him anymore. But easy. You know, he's healthy and he's this,
and he's this, and he's this, and he's smart and
he's kind, he's got all the good genes. Let's just
huge him and your wife is like a new Tracy.
Whose side are you on?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Hi Tracy, you hurt the whole conversation. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Had friends that had a baby with their ex and
have raised and he's older now and having kids and
co parenting and figuring that out is messy, and so
I would say I would not do it, because as
a child gets older, it just can get really messy
and become really hard.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But what about what the consensus is via text? I
don't think there's anybody who's saying, yeah, it's a great idea.
I don't think it's a great idea.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
But I mean I feel like if they come up
with like an agreement, like, I feel like it could work.
I'm not saying it it will or it won't, but
I feel like it could work if you make the
agreement with your ex boyfriend, like, hey, I'm married now
we've moved on and hopefully it ended amicably, amicably with yourself. Yeah, yeah,
so I think that he could understand.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Jenny, what do you think.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think that it's too messy. I think that it's
a really bad idea. I just think and also, you
have to think about the kid later in life too.
Who's going to want to know who their father is
most likely? And if it's just like some random person
generated through doctors, that's a different story versus someone who
lives in the same city had a relationship with one
(06:30):
of your moms. I don't know. I think it's a
little too messy, and I feel like I actually am
more so on the wife's side here, where I would
say it's better to go with someone that you don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's kind of what the consensus is via text messages.
I mean, Bailey's looking at text messages and most people
are saying, do not have your ex boyfriend as a
sperm don't.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, they're saying it's like a nightmare waiting to happen,
that there's going to be a lot of jealousy there,
and that makes sense, though I don't see why it
can't be someone you know, maybe not your ex, but like, yes,
if down the line, if the kids like I want
to meet my father, it'd be way easier to be like, oh, well,
your father is my friend Rick and uh here, let's
(07:10):
go meet him. But if your father is like, oh,
it's my ex boyfriend, then that's a little bit yeah, dicey.
So even though I mean, hey, props that your ex
boyfriend was good looking and you want those jeans in
your gene pool, But maybe choosing someone else that's more
like a mutual friend between both you and your wife
would be a good in between, because yes, like going
(07:31):
through a stranger is probably you know, just as there's
no jealousy regardless or in that way. But find like
going through that is probably going to be more expensive,
and that's I think what they're on the struggle bus
here with is the cost.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So these two women, they're married, they want to have
a baby, and one woman used to date guys, and
so she wants to use his sperm to have the baby.
And and a DIY and I guess a lot of
people are saying they sell like home DIY insmination kids
at Target. And it's not a turkey baster nor an eyedropper.
It's more like a syringe and it actually walks you
through the most effective way to do it, which okay, great.
(08:09):
And one of the things that was motivating page is
it's free. It's well, it's basically free for the price
of the kit down at Target. Yeah, I realized there
was a kid at Target. So that's wild.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Seeing those sex messages come in.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Uh, there's a bunch of text messages. This is an
awful idea, too messy with all the feelings that you
would come up with after you had a kid, feelings
that you don't even know yet. Somebody else said there
was a recent news story about a local couple that
used a male friend as a sperm downer, and he
promised he would not be in the child's life as
anything more than a family friend, and then years later
(08:42):
he ended up trying to fight for custody of the child. Oh,
I mean you could, you could probably at least have
a lawyer sign up a document that like, you know
that said that you're not going to ever do anything
like that. And then somebody says, what in the Love
is Blind is going on with group therapy today? Didn't
do you not learn from the show? Was that on
Love is Blind?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It was, but not this past Minneapolis season. It was
a different season where two people got engaged and the
guy had like helped get his ex or friend pregnant. Yes,
she was in a relationship with a famous and then
it was messy and then he actually ended up being
sort of a father figure in the kid's life. And
now the couple from Love is Blind is no longer together.
(09:25):
So yeah, it was a whole dramatic thing.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm sorry, Paige, it looks like nearly I don't think
there's a single person that that I saw that texted
in go ahead and do and you know, use the
ex boyfriend's sperm for the donation. I'm sorry if you
if you're asking for opinions and that's what you did,
nobody is I hate to say it, nobody's on your side.
Page fun Yeah, you know, I mean I think it's
(09:54):
I think it's valuable information. If there was like, you know,
fifty to fifty or it was split a little bit
then be one thing. But people are either given their
opinions or tell them their stories. And I don't think
it sounds like it's a good idea, But I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Could still make a list of other people that could
potentially be donors for you if that's the avenue you
want to go down. That is less strings attached than
an ex.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Page. Good luck, I hope whatever you do, happy baby.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, thank you, thank you, Yeah you.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Bet hey page. Good to talk to you again. Tell
your wife, I said, okay, I will for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Cool that I got to marry them years ago and
here they are still listening to the show. It's funny
how people's lives have changed and now should they're like
at a point where they want to have a baby. Well,
I hope you do.
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