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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got an email that I wanted to read to you. Guys. Actually,
you know what, it's painful to read, Jenny, Can you
read the email about the pet the whole thing, because
somebody is over the top angry about something we did
on the show last week. So and it's me. They're
mad at me, they're not mad at you, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Buckalo up, David, Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm ready?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Okay, It says Dave.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I've been listening to you for the past twenty five years,
and you have said some stupid stuff here and there,
but a lot of the time it's either harmless or it's.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Kind of funny. This time you crossed the line.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
They say, I know you're looking for a dog to
replace your sweet Josie, but I can't believe you even.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Set foot in a pet store.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You were talking about how cute the puppies were, and
you even called your wife Susan on the air to
ask her if you could buy a pet store dog.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Shame on you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
There are so many other adoptable dogs out there that
aren't bred.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
For purposes of greed.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You said the dog you were looking at was about
thirty five hundred dollars. That is absolutely outrageous. There's no
such thing as a reputable breeder. They are breeding dogs
and flooding the market with expensive designer dogs that are
overpriced and probably inbred.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
And not healthy.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Wow, promoting shop shopping at a pet store is not
a lot different than promoting drunk driving or beating on
your kid. Jeez, you owe all of us an apology,
and that comes from someone named Faith.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Jeez, Dave Ooh, she is not half over there.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I think I'm just like I'm okay. Number one, you're
being ridiculous. Faith. Promoting shopping to pet store is no
different than promoting drunk driving or beating on your kid.
This woman is a lunatic. She is a load of tick.
I'll go ahead and say it. I hate to make
(02:00):
a statement about that like that to somebody who listens
to the show and has listened for a long time,
you are a lunatic because comparing that to shopping to
the pet store. Number one, people have the right to
do whatever they want. You want to buy a petitive
pet store, then go you want to go to a breeder,
go All dogs need a home, even pet store dogs
need a home. They're just innocent little creatures. They're not evil.
(02:25):
The evil might be in the breeders, but that's another story.
But I didn't buy a dog. I went in because
I miss having a dog, and a pet store is
one place where you can go, and not every pet
store does. But this put pet store is like, do
you want to hold one? I'm like, can I? So
I held a little docks into the little Wiener dog. Oh,
it was so cute. It was like eight weeks old,
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just adorable. Not the dog for me because I want
a dog that can run with me. And then I
held this other one. It was a mini Bernie doodle.
H man, it was just oh, he was so great
and he was so sweet. And I did ask susan
kind of tongue in cheek, should I buy this dog?
And she's like, no, you're not gonna because I really
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want to get like a five year old adult dog
that somebody just couldn't take care of anymore. And to
go into a pet store, there's nothing wrong with it.
If you want to buy from a pet store, you
have every right to do it. But most people know, hey,
I want to get like an adopted like you know,
a shelter dog or a foster dog or something like that,
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and that's probably what we're going to go for. But
there's some people they specifically want a burn a doodle,
or they want a pure bread Collie or whatever it is.
I don't think that breeders are evil. I think that
some breeders are unscrupulous. But what do you guys think?
Was she a little bit over the top with this?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't think it's not your fault that these dogs
are in a pet store because of breeder's actions that
they took and now they couldn't find anyone to take
those dogs and all they are in a pet store.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So I don't think that that's your fault.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And equating it to something like abuse and drunk driving.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Right, if you got a dog from a pet store,
you're doing a good thing for that dog.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know, It's not like that is harming that dog.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It's not like you went in and just started punching
dogs then. But no, you were just going to look
at them.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I hold some puppies, and you know what, would I
consider buying a pet from a pet store? Yeah? I
got Josie a pet store and she was wonderful.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
She was.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Just such a sweet girl and she had her and
her brother, and we looked at both of them, and
Josie was a little bit more friendly and so, but
then we got Gracie down at the Golden Valley Humane Society.
Rex was like a foster dog and he was like
seven years old and nobody wanted him anymore. And they
were great dogs. But I think that I don't know.
(04:51):
Let me read some text messages. Faith is so ridiculous, Dave.
There are plenty of reputable breeders with healthy Wait, they're
coming in so fast that it's we're updating here. I agree,
it's disappointing that you went to a pet store for
a doodle no less, they're not even a real breed.
But it's definitely not the same as promoting trunk driving
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or child abuse. But she's got a point that it
shouldn't be promoted. This lady is sick. Who cares if
people want to go to a pet store. It's part
of finding your forever friend. Faith sounds like a white
woman who's never stood for any human rights in her life.
I don't know about that one. Puppy mill dogs go
to pet stores. If you want a preer bred collie,
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do your research and go to a reputable breeder. The
guy that I talked to down to the pet store,
and again, I'm not promoting pet stores, but I'm also
not going to bash them just for existence. He says.
You know, it used to be that way. Now it's
all USDA governed and regulated, and the breeders have got
to be reputable. And if you want to burn a
doodle and you can't find one at the Humane Society,
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then you know you have every right to go to
a breeder. And people bash on doodles all the time,
but I aren't doodles great dogs. I mean, I love them.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I watch a lot of doodles and they're very well behaved,
most of them. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't shed,
or at least none of the ones I watch shed,
So that's great.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Josie was a labradoodle and she didn't shed at all.
Steve's got a what is his h Steve's got one.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
He's got a golden Golden doodles, Golden doodles, and then
they have want one little one too.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Hmm.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Okay, So people aren't texting us saying like good breeders
are different than pet stores and that pet stores support
puppy mills.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So that's where that the difference is there.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I don't know that. I don't know that that's true.
Does every pet store promote a puppy to promote a
puppy mill? I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I don't know if they're promoting it, but I think
maybe they get their dogs from puppy mills. It seems like,
I mean, we're getting a lot of text messages that
are kind of saying that same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I guess I don't have the information, Dave.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I've got some people calling on the phone if you
want to talk to them. Nicole's on the phone right now.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Absolutely, Nicole. We got an angry letter from a woman
who said, Dave, I can't believe you promote it, even
going into a pet store. It is it is a
terrible thing to promote. Breeders are breading expensive dogs, they're unscrupulous,
blah blah blah. And I'm like, well, I don't know
that it's that bad of a sin. I don't want
a dog from a pet store, but I want a dog, Nicole,
(07:13):
what do you want to say?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Man?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Right away, I thought, oh, Dave, you're gonna rile the
animal rescue community that. Yeah, that is one of the
worst sins is to go to a pet store. Oh,
they do. They all come from puppy mills. And as
a former foster I fostered for over ten years. Until
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you've seen first hand dogs come from puppy mills, you
just don't know. They don't know what humans are. They're
terrified of everything. They don't know how to most of
the time, go through doorways, walk on grass, what tile is?
They get scared of their collar hitting their water dish,
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I mean, and it's a completely different world. So equating
it to abuse, there's nothing short of the definition.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Really, I'm actually surprised to hear that because you know
that I'll be honest with you, nic Call. The dogs
that I held were so sweet. They were playful. The
one bernadoodle was like he couldn't stop licking my face.
He was so happy. And I'd put him down, he'd
run them down the little enclosure. Then he'd run back
to me and he'd try to jump up on me.
And they seem really well adjusted.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Absolutely as puppies they are. They don't know any different.
They are sweet little puppies like anything else. The biggest
thing that you can do is as the parents. If
you're at a store or you're at somewhere that you
think is a reputable breeder. That's the a number one
biggest rereadful heg is if you cannot be the parents.
(08:48):
Most of the time they're neglected, they're matted. If you
knew a simple Google search just for any puppy mill,
you'll see they're in tiny cages, which is why they
don't know how to do those things. So I figured
that you would be going with a rescue dog, and
I'm glad to hear that you are looking for an
(09:11):
adult dog because you'll already know their temperament, you'll know
the things that they know, and you'll know how to
help them best adjust.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of reasons
why I go for an older rescue dog because number one,
I want an older dog because they're usually trained, they
got out of the puppy stage. They're not going to
chew on you and bite you every chance they get.
And also just want to find a home for a
dog that really needs a home. And we came really
close to adopting one from Spot's Last Stop, and somebody
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else got that was Gavin, and Gavin was close to
be in the right one, but maybe not exactly the
right one. So we're still looking with you, like little
rescue places and the Humane Society and that type of thing.
But I went into the pet store because I love
dogs and I wanted to hold a puppy of like
somebody who really loves babies. You can't go into a
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baby city and hold a baby baby city if you
could still at the mall. It's in the mall, it's in.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Harmar, is it upstairs or downstairs?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's upstairs in Harmar in the North wing, and then
the Gay City and then you can hold it. Wouldn't
that be great? Though? But I just I don't know.
Somebody says, I, this is it. We had a tons
of text messages. I am an adopt don't shop gal myself,
but I wouldn't waste my time going after you. In
an email, another one says she's nuts, just to make
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a point about having to buy a dog from a
breeder versus shelter. Some of us have allergies to most dogs,
so it's got to be the right mixture in order
for us to have a dog. All dogs and animals
of that sort of deserve love no matter where they
came from. And I think there's a point to that too.
You know, you see a pet store dog and it's
still a helpless little creature that needs love. So, you know,
(10:55):
I hope they all get sold. I don't know. Yeah,
I'm I'm I'm not on the fence. I'm definitely on
the rescue foster side. But but I just wanted to
hold a dog. Yeah, and I didn't buy a dog
from there, and I'm not going to buy a dog
from there, but boy, people get fired up.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I want message what happens to the someone to text in?
If someone doesn't adopt the dogs at the pet store,
then who will? They are animals too, and those dogs
didn't choose to be in that environment. Why should they
not get the opportunity to be adopted to So I
understand not going to pet stores because you don't want
to support like the whole puppy mill thing, but I
do wonder, like what happens to those dogs if no
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one goes to that pet store.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's a really really good question, because you know what,
Let's say there's a dog that's you know, like not
desirable for whatever reason, and they're eight weeks old when
they come in, and then they're like, you know, maybe
like they're ten months or a year old, and they
don't fit in the little kendle in the pet store anymore.
What happens to them? What does they happen to a foster?
Speaker 5 (11:52):
What do they do or like do they end up
going to, you know, like a rescue or like a
humane society or something.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I wonder what they go through.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Text messages. I love rescue, of course, but puppy mills
are completely different than reputable breeders. Depends on the pet
store and where they get their dogs. Question. Is there
even a pet store that's open in the Twin Cities anymore?
The only one that I knew of in Colorado Springs
has been there for like forty years or something like that.
Are there pet stores still in Minnesota?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I don't know the last time I've seen one, but
I feel like otherre's stores that obviously sell pet things,
but I don't know if they have dogs and.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Elmore like there or anything.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
There's one in the North Town Mall, and I know
that that one is not a good one. I'm pretty sure, yeah,
but I think that's the only one I've because I
grew up near there, so like that's the only one
I remember of like seeing in my youth.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But I haven't seen one. I mean I always just
go to the Humane Society to get animals.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's where. Yeah, I mean, we've been to the Humane Society,
and yeah, it's just an interesting thing. People are so
passionate about their pets, and we are too. I mean,
Jenny Foster's are like, you know, babysits dogs, dog sits dogs.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
The dogs, dogs, babysitting dogs.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And Vaughant wants to get a dog, and Bailey grew
up with huskies and I've had a dog most years
of my adult life. And you know, you just want
you just want to meet your new little buddy. Yeah,
I tell you a little thing about Gavin.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So Gavin was like a yellow lab and he was
about ten months old and he was you know, he
was great. And I saw him at Spots last stop
and we had him come to the house and we
really like Gavin, but he's just you know, he's a
little bit more puppy. And Susan wasn't quite ready. So
Gavin was adopted by somebody who lived in an apartment
and then unfortunately, they weren't able to keep him because
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they said it's not working in an apartment, so they
gave them back. So Gavin is still available with spots
last stop.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
That happened with my cat too, Like he got adopted
and then they gave him back. But I'm glad they
did because then I got him. But oh, I feel
bad for Gavin. I wonder if his name if they
changed his name when they adopted them and gave them
back and always get a new name.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's what happened to money.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
We can thanks roll the feedback on that one, so
judge away. I mean, you know, I'm not perfect, but
I think I am, and I think that's the important thing.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It is the important thing. As long as you think
you're perfect, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, yay. Support each other all right. It's Katie
able to be