September 4, 2024 • 11 mins
A new recycling scheme has launched today.
Developed by the Packaging Forum, it aims to capture and recycle the myriad of plastic and metal caps and lids that currently make their way to landfill.
Approximately 16,000 tonnes of caps and lids are in circulation annually, the equivalent of approximately 900 trucks of waste.
Collection boxes will be placed in supermarkets in Auckland, Christchurch, and Tauranga, with more to be added in coming weeks.
Packaging Forum CEO Rob Langford told Kerre Woodham the metal lids will be sold to metal recyclers across the country, the money then going to the Lions Foundation’s KanTabs programme to support kids with cancer.
The plastic, he said, will be prepackaged in Auckland before it’s shipped over to Australia for processing, with the aim of collecting enough that processing can be moved back to New Zealand.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the carrywood of morning's podcast from News
Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right two exciting news. A new caps and lids recycling
scheme has launched today. It's been developed by the Packaging
Forum and this is after many years. They've been trying
to do this for some time now to capture and
recycle the myriad plastic and metal caps and lids that
are currently going to landfill. So all very well and
good with your jars and your bottles and the like.
(00:34):
The lids can't go anywhere. Approximately sixteen thousand tons of
caps and lids are in circulation annually and that's approximately
nine hundred trucks loaded with waste collection boxes will be
in several supermarkets in Auckland, christ Church and Total and
more will be added in the coming weeks. To tell
us all about it, I'm joined by the Packaging Forum
CEO Rob Langford. Very good morning to.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You, Modern Accuri. How are you today? Good?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, this is exciting news. I know this is something
you've been working on for a long time now.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yes, Nore, we're very excited to have got to the stage.
We have been able to launch the scheme with the
support of all our foundation members who have helped fund
a solution. And so there's you know, imclude the likes
of pac Coli Europe, Pacific lion A, Sahi Pac Group
(01:25):
and Fielder Wadding Solutions, Nestle, lorel From and food Stuff.
So as you said, we are launching in food stuff
stores today and we've just finished the ribbon cutting in
New World Birkenhead Local and they're in twelve stores around
(01:51):
Auckland and Force, Aukland, Taronga and another four in christ
Church and you can find those on our website which
is Captain Lids dot.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Side I will, I will, You don't have to worry
about that. So what has been the hold up in
you know, having the caps and lids is it finding
somebody who will take them and then process and what
becomes of them after they're collected from the supermarkets.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So the important part of these schemes is there's two
really important elements. There's the infrastructure needed to collect the
items of the Captain lids and we work through a
solution that that's we believe is going to be very
effective in sorting plastic leads into one container and metal
(02:51):
lids into the other and getting those back. So and
then as you, says the second that is very much
around the processing of the lids, So what do we
do with them after we collect them? So the metal
lids will be going through to the metal recyclers in
New Zealand. So Hayes Metals in the Auckland here are
(03:12):
supporting us along with SIMS Metals and the Wider Metal
Association is providing us local drop will points of that metal.
They will pay for that metal and all of that
money is going to the Lines Foundation's can Tab program
to support kids with cancer. So we're giving that back.
(03:37):
The plastic leads we are bringing back to Auckland to
packed group who will pre processes that here in Auckland
and then they will required to sell that send that
to Australia for final processing. The ambition is to have
enough caps and lids, plastic clips and lids coming back
(04:00):
that they can then bring that processing here in New Zealand.
That our challenge and ambition.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So you can cut that on your emails and be
even more green.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, it's all about being green.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean when I mentioned this to the boss this morning,
he's like, ah, don't tell me. I have to have
another cart and set aside for recycling because you've got
the food scraps, you've got the soft plastics, you've got
the mixed recycling, and you've got the general rubbish. Do
you fear there might be people getting a bit recycle fatigued.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Look, this is always a challenge and you'll be aware
that the reason, one of the reasons we had to
set this up was because of the decision from the
government to standardized cubeside recycling in New Zealand. And the
reason they did that and really important was to make
(04:57):
the stream cleaner and more effective so we can actually
properly recycle all of those materials. Unfortunately, caps and lids
are problematic going through the current systems, so it was
best that they come out and we find on alternate
way to collect those so yes. But globally, this is
(05:20):
a very normal way to manage product is to stream it.
And because if you stream it, you get very clean product,
and very clean product means that we can reuse and
recover it and we don't have to use viagin material.
So yes, it is another container and we recognize that
(05:41):
for some people that will be a challenge, but the
truth is, if we truly want to believe in our
Green Credentials is New Zealand we need to make some
changes to be be good at.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It does do the caps and lids have to be clean.
What's the best way to recycle? Is it to wash
it out and detergent or just risk it?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Just rinse it with water. They're clean and then just
metal goes into the metal boxes, plastic into the plastic boxes.
You don't need to separate aluminium from steel, just put
them in. You don't have to separate place that type
two or plastic type five out of the caps. Just
put them all in the box and we will do
(06:25):
the rest for you. So we've tried to make it
as easy as possible, but also make sure that we
can truly recover that material and reuse it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
As are all businesses that produce products with Captain bloods
putting money towards this or is it only your big
players who are funding this to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
We've got as I said, I listed the ones that
have signed up at the moment, we have a we
have a lot of other organizations that are just working
through onboarding themselves into the scheme. So it's not for
a lack of interest. It's just as we've tried to
get this up. Everybody has to go through their internal
systems to get on board, and there are there many
(07:09):
others behind that that are working through that. What's equally
as exciting is the amount of community recycling centers supported
through the Zero Waste Network and councils that are very
engaged in the solution. So it shows that where all
it's industry, community councils all working to a common solution
(07:35):
to get all the caps back so we can make
sure that we recover those to an end, a reuse
and to a new use. So it's really exciting. It's
the first time we've managed to get all of the community,
all the sectors on board to achieve.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
This absolutely, so it doesn't just have to be the
lids and caps from the companies you mentioned. It's all
lids and caps, but initially the funding is coming from
the ones you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Mentioned, correct, We don't differentiate. If it's a living a
cap and you bring it in lean into our collection
points which you can find on our site, we will
accept them. And we are in the process of rolling
this out nationally, so if you haven't got it in
(08:19):
your town as yet, we are working very hard in
the background to as quickly as possible create that reach
into more communities.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Tony says, please, could you clarify metal lids from jars
and tins? Yes, that's right, isn't it? Metal lids from
jars and tins, the screwtop ones, the can open the ones,
the ring pool ones, the drinks, the plastic cap everything.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So the easiest way to think about a cap and
lid is if it closes liquid or other things like
ice cream and things, or even your turner lids. Can
you rip them off if they come off, they're a
lid or a cap. If they stay attached, please leave
them attached, like.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
The flip top type things that stay on.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yep, yeah, yep, and a good example. People often says,
you know they tab from a aluminium can. Should I
take that all? No, they should stay on there. They
can go through the system as aluminium and go to
the right place. So we can make that as efficient
(09:30):
as possible. But if you screw it off and it
comes off, or you open it like a crown seal
or a beer cap, then yes, absolutely, we want to
recover that through the system.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Does anyone make money from this or is this just
the packaging forum trying to clean up after itself.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And we don't make any money out of this, right
and it's not our intention to make it as to say,
there is some value in the metal, but we are
going to it's not a lot, so we are going
to give that charity for the amount we get and
saying not a lot. We got sixteen thousand tons of material,
(10:11):
which is a lot of materials, nine hundred truckloads. It's
worth about two million dollars worth of value. But as
we collect that, as we say, there's a greater cost
in running this scheme than that than that recovers that material.
(10:32):
So there is there is. We're not doing this to
make money, and we're doing this because it's the right
thing to do.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Nice, excellent, lovely to talk Rob. The website is Capsulids
all one word capslids dot recycling dot, Kiwi dot in z.
Capsulids dot recycling dot Kiwi dot in z.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
For more from Kerrywood and Mornings, listen live to news
Talks there'd be from nine am weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the carrywood of morning's podcast from News
Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right two exciting news. A new caps and lids recycling
scheme has launched today. It's been developed by the Packaging
Forum and this is after many years. They've been trying
to do this for some time now to capture and
recycle the myriad plastic and metal caps and lids that
are currently going to landfill. So all very well and
good with your jars and your bottles and the like.
(00:34):
The lids can't go anywhere. Approximately sixteen thousand tons of
caps and lids are in circulation annually and that's approximately
nine hundred trucks loaded with waste collection boxes will be
in several supermarkets in Auckland, christ Church and Total and
more will be added in the coming weeks. To tell
us all about it, I'm joined by the Packaging Forum
CEO Rob Langford. Very good morning to.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You, Modern Accuri. How are you today? Good?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, this is exciting news. I know this is something
you've been working on for a long time now.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yes, Nore, we're very excited to have got to the stage.
We have been able to launch the scheme with the
support of all our foundation members who have helped fund
a solution. And so there's you know, imclude the likes
of pac Coli Europe, Pacific lion A, Sahi Pac Group
(01:25):
and Fielder Wadding Solutions, Nestle, lorel From and food Stuff.
So as you said, we are launching in food stuff
stores today and we've just finished the ribbon cutting in
New World Birkenhead Local and they're in twelve stores around
(01:51):
Auckland and Force, Aukland, Taronga and another four in christ
Church and you can find those on our website which
is Captain Lids dot.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Side I will, I will, You don't have to worry
about that. So what has been the hold up in
you know, having the caps and lids is it finding
somebody who will take them and then process and what
becomes of them after they're collected from the supermarkets.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So the important part of these schemes is there's two
really important elements. There's the infrastructure needed to collect the
items of the Captain lids and we work through a
solution that that's we believe is going to be very
effective in sorting plastic leads into one container and metal
(02:51):
lids into the other and getting those back. So and
then as you, says the second that is very much
around the processing of the lids, So what do we
do with them after we collect them? So the metal
lids will be going through to the metal recyclers in
New Zealand. So Hayes Metals in the Auckland here are
(03:12):
supporting us along with SIMS Metals and the Wider Metal
Association is providing us local drop will points of that metal.
They will pay for that metal and all of that
money is going to the Lines Foundation's can Tab program
to support kids with cancer. So we're giving that back.
(03:37):
The plastic leads we are bringing back to Auckland to
packed group who will pre processes that here in Auckland
and then they will required to sell that send that
to Australia for final processing. The ambition is to have
enough caps and lids, plastic clips and lids coming back
(04:00):
that they can then bring that processing here in New Zealand.
That our challenge and ambition.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So you can cut that on your emails and be
even more green.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, it's all about being green.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I mean when I mentioned this to the boss this morning,
he's like, ah, don't tell me. I have to have
another cart and set aside for recycling because you've got
the food scraps, you've got the soft plastics, you've got
the mixed recycling, and you've got the general rubbish. Do
you fear there might be people getting a bit recycle fatigued.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Look, this is always a challenge and you'll be aware
that the reason, one of the reasons we had to
set this up was because of the decision from the
government to standardized cubeside recycling in New Zealand. And the
reason they did that and really important was to make
(04:57):
the stream cleaner and more effective so we can actually
properly recycle all of those materials. Unfortunately, caps and lids
are problematic going through the current systems, so it was
best that they come out and we find on alternate
way to collect those so yes. But globally, this is
(05:20):
a very normal way to manage product is to stream it.
And because if you stream it, you get very clean product,
and very clean product means that we can reuse and
recover it and we don't have to use viagin material.
So yes, it is another container and we recognize that
(05:41):
for some people that will be a challenge, but the
truth is, if we truly want to believe in our
Green Credentials is New Zealand we need to make some
changes to be be good at.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It does do the caps and lids have to be clean.
What's the best way to recycle? Is it to wash
it out and detergent or just risk it?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Just rinse it with water. They're clean and then just
metal goes into the metal boxes, plastic into the plastic boxes.
You don't need to separate aluminium from steel, just put
them in. You don't have to separate place that type
two or plastic type five out of the caps. Just
put them all in the box and we will do
(06:25):
the rest for you. So we've tried to make it
as easy as possible, but also make sure that we
can truly recover that material and reuse it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
As are all businesses that produce products with Captain bloods
putting money towards this or is it only your big
players who are funding this to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
We've got as I said, I listed the ones that
have signed up at the moment, we have a we
have a lot of other organizations that are just working
through onboarding themselves into the scheme. So it's not for
a lack of interest. It's just as we've tried to
get this up. Everybody has to go through their internal
systems to get on board, and there are there many
(07:09):
others behind that that are working through that. What's equally
as exciting is the amount of community recycling centers supported
through the Zero Waste Network and councils that are very
engaged in the solution. So it shows that where all
it's industry, community councils all working to a common solution
(07:35):
to get all the caps back so we can make
sure that we recover those to an end, a reuse
and to a new use. So it's really exciting. It's
the first time we've managed to get all of the community,
all the sectors on board to achieve.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
This absolutely, so it doesn't just have to be the
lids and caps from the companies you mentioned. It's all
lids and caps, but initially the funding is coming from
the ones you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Mentioned, correct, We don't differentiate. If it's a living a
cap and you bring it in lean into our collection
points which you can find on our site, we will
accept them. And we are in the process of rolling
this out nationally, so if you haven't got it in
(08:19):
your town as yet, we are working very hard in
the background to as quickly as possible create that reach
into more communities.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Tony says, please, could you clarify metal lids from jars
and tins? Yes, that's right, isn't it? Metal lids from
jars and tins, the screwtop ones, the can open the ones,
the ring pool ones, the drinks, the plastic cap everything.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So the easiest way to think about a cap and
lid is if it closes liquid or other things like
ice cream and things, or even your turner lids. Can
you rip them off if they come off, they're a
lid or a cap. If they stay attached, please leave
them attached, like.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
The flip top type things that stay on.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yep, yeah, yep, and a good example. People often says,
you know they tab from a aluminium can. Should I
take that all? No, they should stay on there. They
can go through the system as aluminium and go to
the right place. So we can make that as efficient
(09:30):
as possible. But if you screw it off and it
comes off, or you open it like a crown seal
or a beer cap, then yes, absolutely, we want to
recover that through the system.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Does anyone make money from this or is this just
the packaging forum trying to clean up after itself.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And we don't make any money out of this, right
and it's not our intention to make it as to say,
there is some value in the metal, but we are
going to it's not a lot, so we are going
to give that charity for the amount we get and
saying not a lot. We got sixteen thousand tons of material,
(10:11):
which is a lot of materials, nine hundred truckloads. It's
worth about two million dollars worth of value. But as
we collect that, as we say, there's a greater cost
in running this scheme than that than that recovers that material.
(10:32):
So there is there is. We're not doing this to
make money, and we're doing this because it's the right
thing to do.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Nice, excellent, lovely to talk Rob. The website is Capsulids
all one word capslids dot recycling dot, Kiwi dot in z.
Capsulids dot recycling dot Kiwi dot in z.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
For more from Kerrywood and Mornings, listen live to news
Talks there'd be from nine am weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
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