Kerre Woodham: We have to be willing and prepared to play our part

Well, we were a little in advance of the day yesterday, weren't we? If you were with me yesterday, I was looking at the armed forces lowering their standards to try to attract more people into the services. They're leaving in droves, finding it very hard to recruit new people, men and women, to join the services. And instead of lowering standards, I said, why not make the Defence Force more attractive as a career? Address the poor pay, the substandard housing and the lack of opportunities for career advancement for servicemen and women to stop them leaving in their legions. And what do you know? Twelve hours later they have.  

A huge investment into our services, $12 billion over the next four years for a modern combat capable New Zealand Defence Force, $9 billion of that 12 is new money. Where is it going to come from? Who knows? All will be revealed. It's an unprecedented investment into services and it will certainly bring them into the 21st century. Morale must have gone through the roof. So to the grandad that texted in yesterday and said we've just encouraged our grandson onto a Pathways Programme into the Navy, have we done the right thing? This time yesterday morning, no. Today? Abso-bloody-lutely!   

The Defence Capability plan released yesterday afternoon will see all sorts of things. It will see the ailing Boeing 757s replaced – that'll cost between $600 million to $1 billion. Other smaller vehicles, including light armoured vehicles, will get around the same – $6 million to $1 billion in funding. The maritime helicopters will be replaced, that'll cost $2 billion plus. There'll be uncrewed autonomous vessels. There'll be javelin anti-tank missile upgrades, enhanced strike capabilities, long range remotely piloted aircraft, space capabilities. You name it, Uncle Tom Cobbley and all. The Governments chosen not to replace the two Anzac frigates, Te Mana and Te Kaha, certainly not in the first part of the plan. Instead, they're going to spend around $600 million to keep them going. 

Former Defence Minister Ron Mark says he sees NZ First’s hand in the defence commitment. He said there would have been a lot of nudging, a lot of feeing on, a lot of encouragement from NZ First, and he told Mike Hosking this morning that this significant commitment to our defence will only enhance our standing with our long term allies.  

“This will play well with our strategic partners globally. I mean I'm thinking right now ASEAN, FPDA, and the Indo Pacific. I'm thinking of security comfort that the South Pacific Defence Ministers will get. Five Eyes also, and NATO, can't forget NATO. But it's also going to enhance the Prime Minister and the Minister of Foreign Affairs ability to secure our economic future. You can't have prosperity without security and right now we're living in possibly the most insecure times that we've seen since the Second World War.” 

Amen to that. He also told Mike that he wanted to get the contract signed as soon as possible so that in the event of a Labour/Greens coalition there wouldn't be a U-turn on this defence commitment. But Labour leader Chris Hipkins said he broadly agreed with the plan as it stood on Monday. He was interested in seeing how it would be paid for, as indeed are we all, but what would he care about that? Didn't bother him in the past where the money came from. He basically sees an increase in defence spending as an extension of Labour's 2019 plan, and they did put in a considerable sum of money, again, probably as part of the coalition commitments.  

I guess when you see Chris Hipkins saying he broadly agrees with it, political leaders with an ounce of experience and pragmatism, who are not blinded by ideology, understand that the world is indeed a precarious place. We have to be willing and prepared to play our part in helping ourselves and helping our friends, and with that co

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, we were a little in advance of the day yesterday,
won't we If you were with me yesterday. I was
looking at the armed forces lowering their standards to try
to attract more people into the services. They're leaving in droves,
finding it very hard to recruit new men and new
people men and women to join the services. And instead

(00:34):
of lowering standards, I said, why not make the defense
force more attractive as a career. Address the poor pay,
the sub standard housing, and the lack of opportunities for
career advancement for service men and women to stop them
leaving in their legions. And what do you know? Twelve
hours later, they have a huge investment into our services

(00:59):
twelve billion dollars over the next four years for a
modern combat capable New Zealand Defense Force. Nine billion of
that twelve is new money. Where's it going to come from?
Who knows or will be revealed. It's an unprecedented investment
and to our services, and it will certainly bring them

(01:20):
into the twenty first century. Morale must have gone through
the roof. So to the granddad that texted in yesterday
and said, oh, we've just encouraged our grandson onto a
pathways program into the navy. Have we done the right thing?
Yesterday morning, this time yesterday, no today, abs of bloody
lately you were onto it. So the Defense Capability Plan

(01:44):
released yesterday afternoon, well, goodness me, it will see all
sorts of things. It will see the ailing Boeing seven
five sevens replaced. That'll cost between six hundred million to
one billion. Other smaller vehicles, including light armored vehicles, will
get around the same six million to one billion in funding.
The maritime helicopters will be replaced two billion dollars plus.

(02:07):
But who doesn't love a new chopper? Love a chopper.
There'll be uncrude autonomous vessels, There'll be javelin anti tank
missile upgrades, enhance strike capabilities, long range remotely piloted aircraft,
space capabilities. You know it. Uncle Tom Cobley and all.

(02:28):
The Government's chosen not to replace the two ANZAC frigates,
Tamana and Takaha. It will certainly not in the first
part of the plan. Instead, they're going to spend around
six hundred million to keep them going. Former Defense Minister
Ron Mark says he sees New Zealand First's hand in

(02:48):
the defense commitment. He said this there would have been
a lot of nudging, a lot of geeing on, a
lot of encouragement from New Zealand First. And he told
my Costing this morning that this significant commitment to our
defense will only enhance our standing with our long term allies.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Will play well with our strategic partners globally. I mean,
I'm thinking right now RC in FPDA, in the Endopacific,
I'm thinking of security comfort. There will be the South
Pacific Ense Minister, it will get five eyes also and
NATO can't forget NATO. But it's also going to enhance
the Prime Minister and the Minister Foreign Affairs ability to

(03:30):
secure our economic duty. You can't have prosperity without security,
and right now we're living in possibly the most insecure
times that we've seen since the Second World War.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Amen to that, that's former Defense Minister Ron Mark and
of course former serviceman Ron Mark. He also told Mike
that he wanted to get the contract signed as soon
as possible so that in the event of a Labor
Greens coalition there wouldn't be a U turn on this
defense commitment, but Labor leader Chris Hopkins said he broadly
agreed with the plan as it stood on Monday. He

(04:03):
was interested in seeing how it would be paid for,
as indeed are we all. But what would he care
about that didn't bother him in the past where the
money came from. But he basically sees an increase in
defense spending as an extension of Labour's twenty nine teen plan.
And they did. They did put in a considerable sum

(04:23):
of money, again probably as part of the coalition commitments.
I guess when you see Chris Hipkins saying he broadly
agrees with it, political leaders with an ounce of experience
and pragmatism who are not blinded by ideology understand that
the world is indeed a precarious place. We have to

(04:45):
be willing and prepared to play our part and helping
ourselves and helping our friends. And with that commitment yesterday,
we're certainly showing that we're willing to do so.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
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