June 10, 2025 • 33 mins
There’s been plenty of buzz around AI in the last few years.
The most recent headlines have been highlighting its evils, such as the creation and lack of regulation around deepfake technology and fake pornography.
However, there are many positive applications for AI technology, particularly in business.
Justin Flitter, founder of NewZealand.AI, joined Kerre Woodham to discuss the potential it holds to transform a workplace, as well as taking listener questions as to how it all works.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Carry Wood and Morning's podcast from
News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He'd b good morning, it is seven past ten, carry
what I'm with you through until midday. And for this
Justin Flint, founder of New Zealand AI, is joining us
to take all your questions regarding AI and how you
can use it in your business. I met Justin when
earlier this year IMCD to the Building Service Contractors World
(00:33):
Congress and one of the guest speakers was Justin the
founder of New Zealand AI. Absolutely fascinating, fascinating presentation. I
really really enjoyed it. So given the headlines around the
evils of AI, which of course gets the clicks, the
headlines about how AI is going to take jobs and
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how it's not accurate, and how it's going to replicate
people in deep fake pawn, etc. The way Justin talked
about it was extremely positive, especially in business and can
be used to transform workplaces in so many different ways.
And so Justin joins me now in a very very
good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Good morning, it's great to be here, Thank you so much.
And given the show that's on in Hamilton at the moment,
let's just clarify that this is not artificial insemination. We
are talking about artificial intelligence here.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's true, actually very good point. But could AI as
an artificial intelligence be used in farming along with artificial insemination?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Absolutely, there'll be plenty of applications for artificial intelligence, least
of all in you know the work that companies like
Halter are doing with their fenceless farms and Gallagher animal
management as well as you know, figuring out, you know,
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what grass do I need to sew or you know,
what fertilizer should I be putting down, and then getting
into like precision agriculture where we've now got machinery that's
kind of like almost got lasers that's pinpointing in secticide
and things on weeds and that sort of thing. Rather
than spraying the whole farm, we're actually getting really focused on,
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you know, where those those things need to be so
that we're reducing I guess the cost and the usage
of some of those chemicals in the earth.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So for people who are listening and who are like,
what what is AI? Is it just is it just
a broad spectrum name for cutting edge technology? How would
you define it?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, So artificial intelligence is not you It's been around
since the nineteen fifties. Of course, Alan Shearing coined artificial
intelligence and the Turing test, which one could argue has
now been past. Artificial intelligence is the use of computer
systems to think and act like humans. So you know,
(03:05):
it is a broad term. There are lots of different
types of artificial intelligence. Generative AI, which is very much
what most people will be talking about now with the
use of chat, GPT and those types of things, and
meta AI is what we call generative AI, and that's
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really only been around in the public sphere since October
November twenty two.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
What blew my tiny mind during your presentation was seeing
you introduce yourself in about six or seven different languages,
the languages of the people who were attending the conference.
And it wasn't dubbed. It wasn't your voice dubbed over.
It was you speaking that language but using AI. It
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wasn't you speaking the language AI doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yes, So I created a digital clone of myself, very
handsome one, no enhancement. So if you've seen the Skinny
mobile ad, they use the same technology.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It's a platform called Hagen and we go into a
studio or you record some video of yourself on your phone.
You upload that into a platform and it creates a
digital clone of you, including all the crazy hand gestures
and everything like that, and it will clone your voice.
And the voice cloning part is probably the hardest part
to get right to sound really authentic. There's a tool
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called eleven Labs which we use, and you need at
least thirty minutes of you speaking, which for your eye
is probably quite easy, but for others it's quite hard
to get that. And actually if you get get to
an hour or two hours of voice recording, then that
training data will give you a much better output. It
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will such sound much more like you. And then in
these tools, we can just change the script whenever we
want to create a new video, and you know, change
it to be any language that we want. And it's
not dubbing over. It is lip syncing me to speak
in Mandarin or Spanish or French or whatever language.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Your mouth was forming the shape needed to produce the sounds.
See I can see immediately, as you pointed out at
the conference, how that would be really useful for people
who wanted to give instructions to staff, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
For housing safety training, for customer onboarding, even for product videos,
even for CEOs that have got to do market updates.
Every time you want to create a new video, you
have to stand in front of a camera with a teleprompter.
You've got all of the production work that goes into it,
and it costs a lot of money. Now, if you
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can record someone for five minutes in a studio once
a year and then use that to create one thousand videos,
then all of a sudden, your cost goes from you know,
six figures down to one hundred bucks a month.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Which is extraordinary. And you're doing it in the language
of the people that you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yes, And you know, while the counter for that is
the creative production teams that would have otherwise been hired
or needed to produce that content. It's not to say
that we don't need those, you know, the the cameraps
and that video production capability. It's just for that, you know,
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high frequency content that doesn't have to be super well produced.
Then we can now use AI tools to automate that
that content production.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, I guess that's a question that Jason has. We've
got to call a straight out of the blocks for you. Jason,
Very good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Oh good morning guys, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Okay, So my question is, so from what from what
what I can see this, this is going to completely
remove all lawyers, accountants, the lovely lady that answers the phone,
she's definitely for the high jump. I can do that.
I don't even know why we'll need school teachers anymore.
They'll be for the high jump or me. So what
what this is? Yeah? Maybe you two carry So what
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this is going to do is this is just going
to transfer wealth from the from the everyday individual to
corporations like Google and Amazon and our mates. Who's your
interviewing there? And so basically, you know everyone hates Russia,
and but you're just going to basically turn the world
into Russia by having a whole lot of oligarchs that
do everything and everyone else is broken, unemployed. I don't
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know why we don't. I don't know why we don't
burn all these things down. Right now, that's here.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
It's a good question, right, and it's about and it's
a valid question, right, and it's something that we do
need to be conscious of and aware of. The fact
is at that we are never not going to need lawyers.
We are never not going to need teachers. We are
never not going to need accountants. It's just that some
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of the things that they do, they won't have to
do anymore, the repetitive, time consuming stuff that we all
hate having to spend money on. With their race, they
will be able to be augmented with AI. And so
when we do need a lawyer, it'll be because we
actually need their advice and their decades of expertise or
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years of expertise that AI doesn't know about that they
can contextualize and understand because the law is gray. The
law is not black and white, and so when we're
deciding we're helping to negotiate something or make a judgment
on something that is nuanced, and that is something that
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we are as humans, we will look to and value
and trust that human component. Now, sure AI is going
to get really good at this over time, but for
we at the moment, it is not that we're not
going to need those people. We do need those expertise
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in our society, and we certainly do not want to
be outsourcing the determination of our legal system to some
AI algorithm.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Does that ass I mean, that's not actually accurate at all,
Because you're right, a law firm will need three lawyers
instead of thirty, So basically it's still the same thing.
Twenty seven of them are still for the high jumping
because three loyals of us oversee all of the AI
for everyone else. And then I have a couple of
jeniors contents. I mean, they're just completely one hundred percent
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for the high jump because numbers are not wrong. There's
no gray area in numbers. So they're all gone everyone
Like the lady that answers the fine, they're all gone,
school teachers. It's any a matter of time, they'll be
all gone. That's a disingenuous what you just said.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, that's not at the moment, that's not you know,
but that's.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
What you're building. That's what you're aiming for. So what
you're saying is that the AI that your building is
never going to be any good, because that's not what
you're saying. What you're saying is the AI that your
building is going to be unbelievable and is going to
get better and better and better, and it will replace lawyers.
All the lawyers will go. It's only a matter of time.
It might not happen until it might be. So that's
where I build it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's where I disagree with you. As I will agree
with you that some companies will not need as many lawyers.
I don't agree with you that we will never need lawyers.
I think that that is something that that that we
will always need lawyers. There are always going to be
new problems to solve, new decisions, and new issues that
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we will need human lawyers to assess and evaluate based
on their breadth of capability.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Thank you, Jason. I get where you're coming from, but
I also understand where you're coming from too, because when
it comes to AI, I was talking to Wendy Pie,
who's like cutting edge into.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
She's amazing, isn't she. She's a phenomenal woman.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I know, and she is working on a program that
is going to be able to teach children who struggle
with reading through AI, freeing up the teachers to teach,
which is exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I mean, we don't have enough teachers as it is. Yeah,
so you know, if we can free up the teachers
with you know, five or ten percent of their time
with some AI, so they can actually spend more time
with the students that need it, firing up or you know,
or just actually reduce the stress level in their role
so that they get a little bit more enjoyment out
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of going into class every day. Isn't that a good thing?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah? I just saw overnight that the teachers have been
approved have been approved to allow to be allowed to
use AI for marketing because they can easily I can
work out if it's right or wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Fantastic news talk said.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
By John A very good morning to you.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, Hi, good morning. How are you goes this morning?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Good? Thanks, good morning.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Great. Hey, listen, I've just got a just a quick
comment I guess on the use of AI, and I
think there can be a lot of positive and I
guess it's a lot of negative. And I guess I've
got one positive story. I've got a son who lives
in Western Australia. Now. He is a general manager of Creed,
a major brand both here and in New Zealand. Sorry
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over there end in New Zealand. And look, he's creating
a bot through AI that will basically answer a lot
of his emails because he is creating the spot where
he puts so much data into it so when an
email will come in, it'll have the capacity to answer
for him and will not send it, he has to
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proof for read it. But he was telling me the
other day that'll say him thirty hours a week in
front of the computer.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
That's amazing, love, isn't it great?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I mean so for a guy, young guy, I mean
he's mid thirties. You know, he's got a young family,
and he's a general manager obviously, you know, so it's
pretty busy. So you can imagine that gives him so
much time for other things, I guess, you know, more family.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Think about what will he be able to do with
all that increased capacity to strip get through his backlog,
to start growing that business, to spend more time on
you know, with his with his staff, with his customers.
You know, this is exactly what we're hearing and seeing
across businesses around New Zealand. And it is a fantastic example.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Yeah, I mean it says a lot of work involved,
you know, putting the spot together because he's got it
and put so much data so it can answer as him.
It's like a virtual person that well.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
We keep saying, you know, chat GPT is the world's
greatest consultant that knows nothing about you, right, so the
more information that you can share with these tools within
a secure environment that coaches them and teaches them how
to respond in your voice as can only help to
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increase your capacity to be able to drive growth.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
News Talks said, be justin the founder of New Zealand.
AI is here taking your course if you have any
on AI and its possibilities. Ree Jason's course is a
text of the same argument arose at the end of
nineteenth century when cars appeared, much talk of all the
folks involved with horses soon becoming redundant, end of civilized society,
et cetera. We just have no age years, no idea
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of the opportunities AI will create. Although you know, when
you think back to when you had the production line
became more mechanized, and you had the biscuit packers who
were part of a team, part of a factory, part
of a workforce, and then their job was taken away
and they biscuit packing was about the limit of their intelligence.
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And then they no longer had a job to go to,
no longer had a community they felt involved with. And
we've seen multi there wasn't unemployment, but with the arrival
of machines, there watts and these people couldn't do anything else.
Will the same be.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
True of the but are they still unemployed?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Third generation, fourth generation unemployed?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So while yes, there might be people that in some
roles in some businesses, they might not need so many
of that. There's AI is also going to create and
we are already seeing it. Lots of new roles and
new opportunities, and no doubt as worth the right of
any new technology that we have seen over the last
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hundred years, there will be new jobs and new industries
that will be created. I'm optimistic, I'm positive. I fundamentally
believe that humans want to contribute to society and that
they will find something else to do. There will be
other opportunities with it for them that they will be
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able to move to. But it is important, like we
have to be having these conversations. This is changing ridiculously fast,
faster than any other technological innovation that we have ever
experienced in humanity, and if you want to be in
a position to adapt to this change, then you need
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to lean into AI. You need to be learning how
AI works. You need to be learning how to combine
your physical skill or your domain knowledge with artificial intelligence
so that you know in five years time you're not
irrelevant to an employer or irrelevant to your your peers
because you just don't have those skills. You're actually just
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you're not even going to be competitive in the economy.
If another company has been working on this for five years,
or you know, someone else that's going for a job
for you has has built up, you know, five years
worth of AI skills, they're going to be miles ahead
of you. You just not even going to be considered.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I was I used a makeup artist whales down for
another MC and gig in Wellington, and she said, how
did you find me? And I said, I googled and
you came up. And she said, huh. She had just
had a baby, and she said, I asked. I asked
chat gpt how do I build a great platform? And
I followed the instructions and she said, I've had so
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much work and she said it was so she didn't
have to pay anyone. She just followed the instructions of
what chat gpt told her to build a successful platform.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And here's an example of how to use AI as
a collaborator.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Right. Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You know, we're always looking for advice to validate our thinking,
to consider how to problem solve in a different way.
And so you know, asking chat, GPT or any of
these AI tools, Hey, here's the here's the situation on
can you give me some advice? How might how might
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I do it? And then you you augment that with
you know, your own values, your own knowledge, the knowledge
you might get from a business mentor you know, from
from an advisor to build a plan. Right, It's not
like we're just taking it for taking everything that an
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AI tool says. It's it's just a part of our
knowledge gathering, you know. And you know, Google search volume
is slowly coming down because more and more people are
going to chet, GPT or Perplexity or any of these
tools now to ask it the questions that they would
normally have gone to Google, except Google just gave them
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one point five trillion pages to sift through, whereas chat
GPT will actually give them a coherent answer, a blended
search result.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
A distillation of the knowledge that's out there. Hi guys,
this AI discussion is interesting. You'll always need a tradee
for many reasons. A plumber when the toilet blocks, a
mechanic to fix your brakes, and engineer to install the machines,
and an electrician to wire.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Them absolutely, but that plumber also has hours every day
to do the invoicing and the paperwork and the accounting
and the customer service and support. Now, if you've got
AI tools that can handle some of that, then the
plumber and the brick layer will have more time, more
billable hours to build a more profitable business.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Perfect Murray, you've got a question.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Yeah, which of course means the plumber of course doesn't
leave the account and the lawyer and the other things.
And AI am agreeing that they can be and with
an app on their phone.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, arguably you don't now if you can use Henry
if you're a sole trader. But you know, most businesses
will still need an accountant to sign off on charted
accounts and do other things. It's actually just the day
to day automated tasks which the accountant probably doesn't do.
It's actually on the business owner to do many of
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those things, which you know suck up productive time.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
I've been playing with chet GPT just like it. I've
just discovered it in the last couple of months, and
in the process of buying a new car, I've been
using chet GPT to compare different insurances for the motivehicle
breakdown stuff. What I found interesting was this it didn't
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just answer the questions that I put to it. It
intuitively knew the next part of the questions that weren't asked.
Chet GP so far. Example, I gave, tell me about
this motor vehicle insurance company. Not only did it say yes,
they've got a good reputation, as they've been in court
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three or four times. These were the reasons that people
complained about them, so it gave me an expansive answer.
And then it went on to you need to make
sure that if you're getting it through a dealer, that
you're not getting charged xtra. You can go through brokers
or go through them directly. These were part of the
questions that weren't formulated, but they were definitely part of
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the overall it was. It was an interesting exchange, and
I really questions, this is just the beginning of this
ten fifteen years down the track. Then you're not you know, teachers,
lawyers and stuff. Certainly, phone operators, taxi drivers, truck drivers,
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those sort of things. While they're not going to replace everything,
it's going to take a big chunk of a lot
of that stuff away and back when we were shoveling
holes with shovels and stuff. The first mechanical diggers put
hundreds and thousands of people out of work because the
Industrial revolution changed the way it worked. We're now in
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the AI revolution, and it's going to be a huge change.
It's such a speed. How are we going to keep
up economically?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Look, you raised some big questions. These are conversations that
we need to be having as a society, that our
politicians need to be having with their communities. You know,
when we look at the pace of change from AI.
In twenty twenty two, when chat chebt launched, it could
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do tasks that took humans, you know, a minute, or
today it can do tasks that takes me would take
me a day or two to complete that piece of work.
If we extrapolate that the pace of change with AI
is doubling every seven months, that by twenty thirty, AI
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is going to be able to do tasks that take
humans a month to do. That is going to change
the shape of our businesses. It is going to change
the shape of our economies, and we need to be
having these conversations now around how we're building sustainable business,
sustainable careers, and what our economy is going to look
like and how we're going to support that, and we're
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just not having these conversations enough, with enough seriousness and
enough honesty throughout New Zealand. And this is why being
on the show today with Kerry and talking at all
the conferences and the AI Academy that we run, all
of these things in the work that the AI Forum do,
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all of these parts of the New Zealand tech sect
to driving it are incredibly important to raising awareness around this.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, because you don't have the answers as to what's
going to happen to society. You just know how AI work.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I'm just at the point to the end of the
sphere where I'm seeing this stuff all day every day.
I'm studying the research I'm hearing from business owners around
the country, the good, the bad, the positive, the opportunity,
and you know, I can see what we can see
what's coming down the pipeline. We can see how this
change is impacting business. We know that businesses in New
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Zealand are already letting people go because AI is doing
the work right. We are on the precipice of an
incredible period of change and people are not going to
be able to adapt if they're not skilled to adapt.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yep, So bearing your head in the sand is not
going to make it go away.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Bearing your head in the sand is not going to
be helpful for anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And like my makeup artist Atext writes to, AI is fantastic.
I built my computer website using AI. I have no
knowledge of website building or coding, just gave it instructions
that coded everything for me. Then I deployed my site.
Saved me thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours, which
is true. And I was talking to the researchers at
the Center for Brain Research Trust who are trying to
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find the cure for dementia and Alzheimer's and all that
sort of thing, and they said, AI now can crunch
the kind of boring papers and numbers that they need
to crunch that used to take hundreds of hours. That
leaves them the ability to get on and use their
brains to find cures.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
AI is helping people be better business owners, be better scientists,
be better teachers, be better astronauts if they know how
to use it, if they know how to use it right,
So you know you'll get left behind if you don't
because you've just become irrelevant. As I said earlier. So
you know, what are you? What do you do? Where
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do we Where do we start? You know as as
business owners, you know, go and get a business mentor
from business mentors and Z we're building an AI project
with them to help that relationship thrive. Jump on learn
dot New Zealand dot AI, which is our AI academy.
Everyone can join for free. We want rerund webinars and
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workshops and training programs you know every week through there
to do skills training at scale. We go into companies
and we help senior leadership teams tackle the big problems,
think about governance and privacy and strategy and use cases
and operations and start utilizing it. If you can ask
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a question, you can use AI.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Nathan, does that answer your question about how you learn
an up skill? And AI.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Certainly go some way towards it. I suspect it's one
of those cases where what you learn and this an
element having to teach itself by applying generic context for
your situation.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, so do you do you want to learn about
certification or.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Well I was a not a curious so just yes,
So just to give a bit of context, so everybody understands.
I'm a business analyst by trade. So a lot of
my job is about implementing new systems and helping people
help helping businesses do their business better using technology. And
so part of my job is for traders to actually
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learn these fools and have to come up to speed
with how they're being applied. And I wanted to sort
of like just share my experiences that over the last
six months I've been progressively uptilling myself by doing a
short course online and the basis of technology of chat,
g GPT, et cetera, and understanding what it can do,
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and then using that as a basis to go away
and supply the skills in my daily life.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And is that the sort of thing you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Absolutely, it's people. It's people like you who ambassadors for AI.
You're the champions of AI, people that are influencing the
practical and responsible use of artificial intelligence in businesses, organizations
and community groups around New Zealand. We have an AI
Ambassador workshop and course that we have through our AI Academy.
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But you know, you're a standout example of someone who's
taking the ball by the horns looking for a free
practical course to start learning and start being curious around
how it's going to impact your world in the world
of those around you. So well done, bear.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
If you have a question, oh yeah, well actually it's
more just one, just a couple of things to say. One,
I just believe as humans we create and if that
door shuts, another one will open. I've been using AI
for a while and learning bigger part of learning about it,
but I've been working with young people for thirty years,
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use at risk and using while people are It's been
hard getting people to discuss the positive outcomes of it.
But while everybody's having these discussions on waking in high schools,
and these kids have already the train has already left
the station, you know, as into using using AI and
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so it's been just the most amazing tool. And as
I said, this thing is here to serve you, it's
not the master. And helping them write their stories if
they're having trouble with spelling or even parts of the
education is to you know, uh, put the information in.
But even when it comes down and it's formatted like incredibly,
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and the confidence these kids are getting now to write
things is phenomenal. All of a sudden, they don't feel
so dumb about what they're doing. It actually comes out.
But what I'm doing with them is saying like, yeah,
that's really cool, but I want you to humanize it now,
and they actually have to rewrite it for their writing,
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and they're putting their own stance of what's been uh
you know, put out with chet GPI. But this that.
There's a dozen also, which I honestly can't remember them all.
I've even got one young man who used photoshop to
do a character and then he put it in the
AI and it's he put all the writings. He actually
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wrote the thing said just bullet points. Just tried to
sit with him because he's very creative and he got
himself a comic with characters with but he did it.
I did it, but he did. He had to put
it it just think and put it in. So I'm
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just saying that people these conversations that you say, but
we need to have, we should have had them a
year ago that this has been going on. So I
just interested listening to you that fear sometimes overtakes people,
but I think it's something that we have to embrace.
(31:28):
And I'm in my seventies by the way.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So I'm glad you said that because I was going
to ask you good on you in your seventies and
a monk news talk said, b that's it doesn't an
hour go quickly fast? Isn't it? Can AI make time extent?
Speaker 7 (31:41):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It can't. Justin just if you could repeat those websites
again where people can get and I should stress this
for free information.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, So come and visit us at New Zealand dot
ai and you'll find links there to the AI Academy
and all of the events and things like that that
you can get on and be a part of and
start your AI learning journey with us.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And business mentor true yeah, and business mentors.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You know, sign up to become a mentor. If you're
a business owner, sign up to access our mentors. You know,
it's a fantastic service. I've been around thirty plus years
and we've got fantastic people from right around the country
all there to lend their expertise to help your business grow.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Absolutely love AI. It's helped so much in every aspect
of life. My child is in between schools at the moment.
AI has populated daily literacy, numerous en science to do
daily without any kind of agenda. So that's very good.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Whatever you want to learn at school, at university, go
and learn it, learn it with AI. If you want
to be a biologist, a lawyer, accountant, a builder, whatever
it is, go and learn that. Be your best at it,
do it with AI running alongside you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Perfect Garry, this AI chat would be one of the
best for ages. I'm eighty one. I see this AI
talk will lead to me doing a to assist in
aspects of our consultants.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's Peter from Takapona. You're fate eighty one and he's
going to be learning the AI. Go you and thank
you so much for your time too. I really do
appreciate it. I found the preso fascinating and the information
and the potentials for fascinating as well.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
He'd b good morning, it is seven past ten, carry
what I'm with you through until midday. And for this
Justin Flint, founder of New Zealand AI, is joining us
to take all your questions regarding AI and how you
can use it in your business. I met Justin when
earlier this year IMCD to the Building Service Contractors World
(00:33):
Congress and one of the guest speakers was Justin the
founder of New Zealand AI. Absolutely fascinating, fascinating presentation. I
really really enjoyed it. So given the headlines around the
evils of AI, which of course gets the clicks, the
headlines about how AI is going to take jobs and
(00:54):
how it's not accurate, and how it's going to replicate
people in deep fake pawn, etc. The way Justin talked
about it was extremely positive, especially in business and can
be used to transform workplaces in so many different ways.
And so Justin joins me now in a very very
good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Good morning, it's great to be here, Thank you so much.
And given the show that's on in Hamilton at the moment,
let's just clarify that this is not artificial insemination. We
are talking about artificial intelligence here.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's true, actually very good point. But could AI as
an artificial intelligence be used in farming along with artificial insemination?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Absolutely, there'll be plenty of applications for artificial intelligence, least
of all in you know the work that companies like
Halter are doing with their fenceless farms and Gallagher animal
management as well as you know, figuring out, you know,
(01:56):
what grass do I need to sew or you know,
what fertilizer should I be putting down, and then getting
into like precision agriculture where we've now got machinery that's
kind of like almost got lasers that's pinpointing in secticide
and things on weeds and that sort of thing. Rather
than spraying the whole farm, we're actually getting really focused on,
(02:20):
you know, where those those things need to be so
that we're reducing I guess the cost and the usage
of some of those chemicals in the earth.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So for people who are listening and who are like,
what what is AI? Is it just is it just
a broad spectrum name for cutting edge technology? How would
you define it?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, So artificial intelligence is not you It's been around
since the nineteen fifties. Of course, Alan Shearing coined artificial
intelligence and the Turing test, which one could argue has
now been past. Artificial intelligence is the use of computer
systems to think and act like humans. So you know,
(03:05):
it is a broad term. There are lots of different
types of artificial intelligence. Generative AI, which is very much
what most people will be talking about now with the
use of chat, GPT and those types of things, and
meta AI is what we call generative AI, and that's
(03:27):
really only been around in the public sphere since October
November twenty two.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
What blew my tiny mind during your presentation was seeing
you introduce yourself in about six or seven different languages,
the languages of the people who were attending the conference.
And it wasn't dubbed. It wasn't your voice dubbed over.
It was you speaking that language but using AI. It
(03:55):
wasn't you speaking the language AI doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yes, So I created a digital clone of myself, very
handsome one, no enhancement. So if you've seen the Skinny
mobile ad, they use the same technology.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It's a platform called Hagen and we go into a
studio or you record some video of yourself on your phone.
You upload that into a platform and it creates a
digital clone of you, including all the crazy hand gestures
and everything like that, and it will clone your voice.
And the voice cloning part is probably the hardest part
to get right to sound really authentic. There's a tool
(04:38):
called eleven Labs which we use, and you need at
least thirty minutes of you speaking, which for your eye
is probably quite easy, but for others it's quite hard
to get that. And actually if you get get to
an hour or two hours of voice recording, then that
training data will give you a much better output. It
(05:02):
will such sound much more like you. And then in
these tools, we can just change the script whenever we
want to create a new video, and you know, change
it to be any language that we want. And it's
not dubbing over. It is lip syncing me to speak
in Mandarin or Spanish or French or whatever language.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Your mouth was forming the shape needed to produce the sounds.
See I can see immediately, as you pointed out at
the conference, how that would be really useful for people
who wanted to give instructions to staff, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
For housing safety training, for customer onboarding, even for product videos,
even for CEOs that have got to do market updates.
Every time you want to create a new video, you
have to stand in front of a camera with a teleprompter.
You've got all of the production work that goes into it,
and it costs a lot of money. Now, if you
(06:01):
can record someone for five minutes in a studio once
a year and then use that to create one thousand videos,
then all of a sudden, your cost goes from you know,
six figures down to one hundred bucks a month.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Which is extraordinary. And you're doing it in the language
of the people that you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yes, And you know, while the counter for that is
the creative production teams that would have otherwise been hired
or needed to produce that content. It's not to say
that we don't need those, you know, the the cameraps
and that video production capability. It's just for that, you know,
(06:45):
high frequency content that doesn't have to be super well produced.
Then we can now use AI tools to automate that
that content production.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, I guess that's a question that Jason has. We've
got to call a straight out of the blocks for you. Jason,
Very good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Oh good morning guys, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Okay, So my question is, so from what from what
what I can see this, this is going to completely
remove all lawyers, accountants, the lovely lady that answers the phone,
she's definitely for the high jump. I can do that.
I don't even know why we'll need school teachers anymore.
They'll be for the high jump or me. So what
what this is? Yeah? Maybe you two carry So what
(07:33):
this is going to do is this is just going
to transfer wealth from the from the everyday individual to
corporations like Google and Amazon and our mates. Who's your
interviewing there? And so basically, you know everyone hates Russia,
and but you're just going to basically turn the world
into Russia by having a whole lot of oligarchs that
do everything and everyone else is broken, unemployed. I don't
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know why we don't. I don't know why we don't
burn all these things down. Right now, that's here.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
It's a good question, right, and it's about and it's
a valid question, right, and it's something that we do
need to be conscious of and aware of. The fact
is at that we are never not going to need lawyers.
We are never not going to need teachers. We are
never not going to need accountants. It's just that some
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of the things that they do, they won't have to
do anymore, the repetitive, time consuming stuff that we all
hate having to spend money on. With their race, they
will be able to be augmented with AI. And so
when we do need a lawyer, it'll be because we
actually need their advice and their decades of expertise or
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years of expertise that AI doesn't know about that they
can contextualize and understand because the law is gray. The
law is not black and white, and so when we're
deciding we're helping to negotiate something or make a judgment
on something that is nuanced, and that is something that
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we are as humans, we will look to and value
and trust that human component. Now, sure AI is going
to get really good at this over time, but for
we at the moment, it is not that we're not
going to need those people. We do need those expertise
(09:32):
in our society, and we certainly do not want to
be outsourcing the determination of our legal system to some
AI algorithm.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Does that ass I mean, that's not actually accurate at all,
Because you're right, a law firm will need three lawyers
instead of thirty, So basically it's still the same thing.
Twenty seven of them are still for the high jumping
because three loyals of us oversee all of the AI
for everyone else. And then I have a couple of
jeniors contents. I mean, they're just completely one hundred percent
(10:08):
for the high jump because numbers are not wrong. There's
no gray area in numbers. So they're all gone everyone
Like the lady that answers the fine, they're all gone,
school teachers. It's any a matter of time, they'll be
all gone. That's a disingenuous what you just said.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, that's not at the moment, that's not you know,
but that's.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
What you're building. That's what you're aiming for. So what
you're saying is that the AI that your building is
never going to be any good, because that's not what
you're saying. What you're saying is the AI that your
building is going to be unbelievable and is going to
get better and better and better, and it will replace lawyers.
All the lawyers will go. It's only a matter of time.
It might not happen until it might be. So that's
where I build it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's where I disagree with you. As I will agree
with you that some companies will not need as many lawyers.
I don't agree with you that we will never need lawyers.
I think that that is something that that that we
will always need lawyers. There are always going to be
new problems to solve, new decisions, and new issues that
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we will need human lawyers to assess and evaluate based
on their breadth of capability.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Thank you, Jason. I get where you're coming from, but
I also understand where you're coming from too, because when
it comes to AI, I was talking to Wendy Pie,
who's like cutting edge into.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
She's amazing, isn't she. She's a phenomenal woman.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I know, and she is working on a program that
is going to be able to teach children who struggle
with reading through AI, freeing up the teachers to teach,
which is exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I mean, we don't have enough teachers as it is. Yeah,
so you know, if we can free up the teachers
with you know, five or ten percent of their time
with some AI, so they can actually spend more time
with the students that need it, firing up or you know,
or just actually reduce the stress level in their role
so that they get a little bit more enjoyment out
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of going into class every day. Isn't that a good thing?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah? I just saw overnight that the teachers have been
approved have been approved to allow to be allowed to
use AI for marketing because they can easily I can
work out if it's right or wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Fantastic news talk said.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
By John A very good morning to you.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, Hi, good morning. How are you goes this morning?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Good? Thanks, good morning.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Great. Hey, listen, I've just got a just a quick
comment I guess on the use of AI, and I
think there can be a lot of positive and I
guess it's a lot of negative. And I guess I've
got one positive story. I've got a son who lives
in Western Australia. Now. He is a general manager of Creed,
a major brand both here and in New Zealand. Sorry
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over there end in New Zealand. And look, he's creating
a bot through AI that will basically answer a lot
of his emails because he is creating the spot where
he puts so much data into it so when an
email will come in, it'll have the capacity to answer
for him and will not send it, he has to
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proof for read it. But he was telling me the
other day that'll say him thirty hours a week in
front of the computer.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
That's amazing, love, isn't it great?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I mean so for a guy, young guy, I mean
he's mid thirties. You know, he's got a young family,
and he's a general manager obviously, you know, so it's
pretty busy. So you can imagine that gives him so
much time for other things, I guess, you know, more family.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Think about what will he be able to do with
all that increased capacity to strip get through his backlog,
to start growing that business, to spend more time on
you know, with his with his staff, with his customers.
You know, this is exactly what we're hearing and seeing
across businesses around New Zealand. And it is a fantastic example.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Yeah, I mean it says a lot of work involved,
you know, putting the spot together because he's got it
and put so much data so it can answer as him.
It's like a virtual person that well.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
We keep saying, you know, chat GPT is the world's
greatest consultant that knows nothing about you, right, so the
more information that you can share with these tools within
a secure environment that coaches them and teaches them how
to respond in your voice as can only help to
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increase your capacity to be able to drive growth.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
News Talks said, be justin the founder of New Zealand.
AI is here taking your course if you have any
on AI and its possibilities. Ree Jason's course is a
text of the same argument arose at the end of
nineteenth century when cars appeared, much talk of all the
folks involved with horses soon becoming redundant, end of civilized society,
et cetera. We just have no age years, no idea
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of the opportunities AI will create. Although you know, when
you think back to when you had the production line
became more mechanized, and you had the biscuit packers who
were part of a team, part of a factory, part
of a workforce, and then their job was taken away
and they biscuit packing was about the limit of their intelligence.
(15:28):
And then they no longer had a job to go to,
no longer had a community they felt involved with. And
we've seen multi there wasn't unemployment, but with the arrival
of machines, there watts and these people couldn't do anything else.
Will the same be.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
True of the but are they still unemployed?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Third generation, fourth generation unemployed?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So while yes, there might be people that in some
roles in some businesses, they might not need so many
of that. There's AI is also going to create and
we are already seeing it. Lots of new roles and
new opportunities, and no doubt as worth the right of
any new technology that we have seen over the last
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hundred years, there will be new jobs and new industries
that will be created. I'm optimistic, I'm positive. I fundamentally
believe that humans want to contribute to society and that
they will find something else to do. There will be
other opportunities with it for them that they will be
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able to move to. But it is important, like we
have to be having these conversations. This is changing ridiculously fast,
faster than any other technological innovation that we have ever
experienced in humanity, and if you want to be in
a position to adapt to this change, then you need
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to lean into AI. You need to be learning how
AI works. You need to be learning how to combine
your physical skill or your domain knowledge with artificial intelligence
so that you know in five years time you're not
irrelevant to an employer or irrelevant to your your peers
because you just don't have those skills. You're actually just
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you're not even going to be competitive in the economy.
If another company has been working on this for five years,
or you know, someone else that's going for a job
for you has has built up, you know, five years
worth of AI skills, they're going to be miles ahead
of you. You just not even going to be considered.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I was I used a makeup artist whales down for
another MC and gig in Wellington, and she said, how
did you find me? And I said, I googled and
you came up. And she said, huh. She had just
had a baby, and she said, I asked. I asked
chat gpt how do I build a great platform? And
I followed the instructions and she said, I've had so
(17:56):
much work and she said it was so she didn't
have to pay anyone. She just followed the instructions of
what chat gpt told her to build a successful platform.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And here's an example of how to use AI as
a collaborator.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Right. Uh.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You know, we're always looking for advice to validate our thinking,
to consider how to problem solve in a different way.
And so you know, asking chat, GPT or any of
these AI tools, Hey, here's the here's the situation on
can you give me some advice? How might how might
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I do it? And then you you augment that with
you know, your own values, your own knowledge, the knowledge
you might get from a business mentor you know, from
from an advisor to build a plan. Right, It's not
like we're just taking it for taking everything that an
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AI tool says. It's it's just a part of our
knowledge gathering, you know. And you know, Google search volume
is slowly coming down because more and more people are
going to chet, GPT or Perplexity or any of these
tools now to ask it the questions that they would
normally have gone to Google, except Google just gave them
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one point five trillion pages to sift through, whereas chat
GPT will actually give them a coherent answer, a blended
search result.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
A distillation of the knowledge that's out there. Hi guys,
this AI discussion is interesting. You'll always need a tradee
for many reasons. A plumber when the toilet blocks, a
mechanic to fix your brakes, and engineer to install the machines,
and an electrician to wire.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Them absolutely, but that plumber also has hours every day
to do the invoicing and the paperwork and the accounting
and the customer service and support. Now, if you've got
AI tools that can handle some of that, then the
plumber and the brick layer will have more time, more
billable hours to build a more profitable business.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Perfect Murray, you've got a question.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Yeah, which of course means the plumber of course doesn't
leave the account and the lawyer and the other things.
And AI am agreeing that they can be and with
an app on their phone.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, arguably you don't now if you can use Henry
if you're a sole trader. But you know, most businesses
will still need an accountant to sign off on charted
accounts and do other things. It's actually just the day
to day automated tasks which the accountant probably doesn't do.
It's actually on the business owner to do many of
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those things, which you know suck up productive time.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
I've been playing with chet GPT just like it. I've
just discovered it in the last couple of months, and
in the process of buying a new car, I've been
using chet GPT to compare different insurances for the motivehicle
breakdown stuff. What I found interesting was this it didn't
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just answer the questions that I put to it. It
intuitively knew the next part of the questions that weren't asked.
Chet GP so far. Example, I gave, tell me about
this motor vehicle insurance company. Not only did it say yes,
they've got a good reputation, as they've been in court
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three or four times. These were the reasons that people
complained about them, so it gave me an expansive answer.
And then it went on to you need to make
sure that if you're getting it through a dealer, that
you're not getting charged xtra. You can go through brokers
or go through them directly. These were part of the
questions that weren't formulated, but they were definitely part of
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the overall it was. It was an interesting exchange, and
I really questions, this is just the beginning of this
ten fifteen years down the track. Then you're not you know, teachers,
lawyers and stuff. Certainly, phone operators, taxi drivers, truck drivers,
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those sort of things. While they're not going to replace everything,
it's going to take a big chunk of a lot
of that stuff away and back when we were shoveling
holes with shovels and stuff. The first mechanical diggers put
hundreds and thousands of people out of work because the
Industrial revolution changed the way it worked. We're now in
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the AI revolution, and it's going to be a huge change.
It's such a speed. How are we going to keep
up economically?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Look, you raised some big questions. These are conversations that
we need to be having as a society, that our
politicians need to be having with their communities. You know,
when we look at the pace of change from AI.
In twenty twenty two, when chat chebt launched, it could
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do tasks that took humans, you know, a minute, or
today it can do tasks that takes me would take
me a day or two to complete that piece of work.
If we extrapolate that the pace of change with AI
is doubling every seven months, that by twenty thirty, AI
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is going to be able to do tasks that take
humans a month to do. That is going to change
the shape of our businesses. It is going to change
the shape of our economies, and we need to be
having these conversations now around how we're building sustainable business,
sustainable careers, and what our economy is going to look
like and how we're going to support that, and we're
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just not having these conversations enough, with enough seriousness and
enough honesty throughout New Zealand. And this is why being
on the show today with Kerry and talking at all
the conferences and the AI Academy that we run, all
of these things in the work that the AI Forum do,
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all of these parts of the New Zealand tech sect
to driving it are incredibly important to raising awareness around this.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, because you don't have the answers as to what's
going to happen to society. You just know how AI work.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I'm just at the point to the end of the
sphere where I'm seeing this stuff all day every day.
I'm studying the research I'm hearing from business owners around
the country, the good, the bad, the positive, the opportunity,
and you know, I can see what we can see
what's coming down the pipeline. We can see how this
change is impacting business. We know that businesses in New
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Zealand are already letting people go because AI is doing
the work right. We are on the precipice of an
incredible period of change and people are not going to
be able to adapt if they're not skilled to adapt.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yep, So bearing your head in the sand is not
going to make it go away.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Bearing your head in the sand is not going to
be helpful for anybody.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
And like my makeup artist Atext writes to, AI is fantastic.
I built my computer website using AI. I have no
knowledge of website building or coding, just gave it instructions
that coded everything for me. Then I deployed my site.
Saved me thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours, which
is true. And I was talking to the researchers at
the Center for Brain Research Trust who are trying to
(25:30):
find the cure for dementia and Alzheimer's and all that
sort of thing, and they said, AI now can crunch
the kind of boring papers and numbers that they need
to crunch that used to take hundreds of hours. That
leaves them the ability to get on and use their
brains to find cures.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
AI is helping people be better business owners, be better scientists,
be better teachers, be better astronauts if they know how
to use it, if they know how to use it right,
So you know you'll get left behind if you don't
because you've just become irrelevant. As I said earlier. So
you know, what are you? What do you do? Where
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do we Where do we start? You know as as
business owners, you know, go and get a business mentor
from business mentors and Z we're building an AI project
with them to help that relationship thrive. Jump on learn
dot New Zealand dot AI, which is our AI academy.
Everyone can join for free. We want rerund webinars and
(26:30):
workshops and training programs you know every week through there
to do skills training at scale. We go into companies
and we help senior leadership teams tackle the big problems,
think about governance and privacy and strategy and use cases
and operations and start utilizing it. If you can ask
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a question, you can use AI.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Nathan, does that answer your question about how you learn
an up skill? And AI.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Certainly go some way towards it. I suspect it's one
of those cases where what you learn and this an
element having to teach itself by applying generic context for
your situation.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, so do you do you want to learn about
certification or.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Well I was a not a curious so just yes,
So just to give a bit of context, so everybody understands.
I'm a business analyst by trade. So a lot of
my job is about implementing new systems and helping people
help helping businesses do their business better using technology. And
so part of my job is for traders to actually
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learn these fools and have to come up to speed
with how they're being applied. And I wanted to sort
of like just share my experiences that over the last
six months I've been progressively uptilling myself by doing a
short course online and the basis of technology of chat,
g GPT, et cetera, and understanding what it can do,
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and then using that as a basis to go away
and supply the skills in my daily life.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And is that the sort of thing you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Absolutely, it's people. It's people like you who ambassadors for AI.
You're the champions of AI, people that are influencing the
practical and responsible use of artificial intelligence in businesses, organizations
and community groups around New Zealand. We have an AI
Ambassador workshop and course that we have through our AI Academy.
(28:38):
But you know, you're a standout example of someone who's
taking the ball by the horns looking for a free
practical course to start learning and start being curious around
how it's going to impact your world in the world
of those around you. So well done, bear.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
If you have a question, oh yeah, well actually it's
more just one, just a couple of things to say. One,
I just believe as humans we create and if that
door shuts, another one will open. I've been using AI
for a while and learning bigger part of learning about it,
but I've been working with young people for thirty years,
(29:17):
use at risk and using while people are It's been
hard getting people to discuss the positive outcomes of it.
But while everybody's having these discussions on waking in high schools,
and these kids have already the train has already left
the station, you know, as into using using AI and
(29:41):
so it's been just the most amazing tool. And as
I said, this thing is here to serve you, it's
not the master. And helping them write their stories if
they're having trouble with spelling or even parts of the
education is to you know, uh, put the information in.
But even when it comes down and it's formatted like incredibly,
(30:03):
and the confidence these kids are getting now to write
things is phenomenal. All of a sudden, they don't feel
so dumb about what they're doing. It actually comes out.
But what I'm doing with them is saying like, yeah,
that's really cool, but I want you to humanize it now,
and they actually have to rewrite it for their writing,
(30:25):
and they're putting their own stance of what's been uh
you know, put out with chet GPI. But this that.
There's a dozen also, which I honestly can't remember them all.
I've even got one young man who used photoshop to
do a character and then he put it in the
AI and it's he put all the writings. He actually
(30:47):
wrote the thing said just bullet points. Just tried to
sit with him because he's very creative and he got
himself a comic with characters with but he did it.
I did it, but he did. He had to put
it it just think and put it in. So I'm
(31:07):
just saying that people these conversations that you say, but
we need to have, we should have had them a
year ago that this has been going on. So I
just interested listening to you that fear sometimes overtakes people,
but I think it's something that we have to embrace.
(31:28):
And I'm in my seventies by the way.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So I'm glad you said that because I was going
to ask you good on you in your seventies and
a monk news talk said, b that's it doesn't an
hour go quickly fast? Isn't it? Can AI make time extent?
Speaker 7 (31:41):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It can't. Justin just if you could repeat those websites
again where people can get and I should stress this
for free information.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, So come and visit us at New Zealand dot
ai and you'll find links there to the AI Academy
and all of the events and things like that that
you can get on and be a part of and
start your AI learning journey with us.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And business mentor true yeah, and business mentors.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You know, sign up to become a mentor. If you're
a business owner, sign up to access our mentors. You know,
it's a fantastic service. I've been around thirty plus years
and we've got fantastic people from right around the country
all there to lend their expertise to help your business grow.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Absolutely love AI. It's helped so much in every aspect
of life. My child is in between schools at the moment.
AI has populated daily literacy, numerous en science to do
daily without any kind of agenda. So that's very good.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Whatever you want to learn at school, at university, go
and learn it, learn it with AI. If you want
to be a biologist, a lawyer, accountant, a builder, whatever
it is, go and learn that. Be your best at it,
do it with AI running alongside you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Perfect Garry, this AI chat would be one of the
best for ages. I'm eighty one. I see this AI
talk will lead to me doing a to assist in
aspects of our consultants.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's Peter from Takapona. You're fate eighty one and he's
going to be learning the AI. Go you and thank
you so much for your time too. I really do
appreciate it. I found the preso fascinating and the information
and the potentials for fascinating as well.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
For more from Kerry Wooden Mornings, listen live to news talks.
It'd be from nine am weekdays, or follow the podcast
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