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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Carry Wooden Mornings podcast from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Rounding of our roundups of the year with our high
ranking ministers with Chris Bishop, the Minister of Infrastructure, so Transport, Housing, RMA, Reform,
Leader of the House, Minister for Everything, basically Chris Bishop.
They've been incredibly busy and I think the ministers we
might as may well have been the Parliamentary Christmas Party,
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but working up until the twenty third Chris Bishop with
a Leader of the House hat On sent out twenty
twenty five. By the numbers, there were fifty five bills introduced,
one hundred and five first readings, eighty nine third readings, oney,
five hundred and sixteen papers presented to the House, seventy
nine question times, and as of Wednesday morning, fifty eight thousand,
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nine hundred and thirty eight written parliamentary questions asked of ministers.
Chris Bishop, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Good morning. That's been a busy year.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
How many of those came from Tati Mardi?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Not not that not that many, not many of.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Any, as the Great Scribe would.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Say, exactly, they're not that many here, They're not Yeah,
they're never really in the debating chamber to be honest,
and did any out for the budget debate earlier in
the year, which is like the big set piece thing
for the year.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So well, let's not talk negatives. That was my fault.
Let's talk positives. What are your big wins for the year, Minister.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm really proud of how fast tracks going.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, you've been talking about mining this morning, and you
know the Wayhi North expansion and it took like one
hundred and twenty days for that to be consented and
you know people opposed to it obviously, but you know
that would have been just stuck in the courts for years, right, five, six, seven, eight,
nine years, So that's got consents to that would be expandeds.
We've now had I think eight or nine projects are
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consented through fast Track.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It only went live in February.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You know that Port of Auckland expansion, you know that
five months that's underway. Now they we've turned the sod
on that they're underway. The cruise ship expansion there they
reckon it would have taken five years normally.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's underway.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Some big new housing developments coming through as well, renewable
energy projects and there's many more coming through, you know,
coming through my office. I've got a bit of a
roll through the process.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I have to.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
There's a lot of paperwork around it, and there's more
coming through all the time, which is really great.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So I'm proud of that.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
And obviously the wider RMA changes which we announced the
other day, which I think are going to be transformational
for the economy. Not so much in the short term
because it's going to take time to get it in place,
but in the medium term, for the twenty twenty nine
period onwards, it's going to be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Form his own, why.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Does it take one hundred and twelve working days to
assess a proposal for an extension of a mind that
is already an operation and that has in some iteration
been mined since eighteen seventy four.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, well, I think people would that's a legitimate question.
But I think people would say, you want to you
want to dot your eyes and cross your teeth. So
there's Wildlife Act, there's there's all of the mining does
have an impact on the environment, right, And the Oceania
guys who run why he would say to you that
they work very hard alongside the local community to get
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social license from the mine and to make sure they
are having as least intrusive impact on the environment as
they can, you know, within the confines of doing a
mining project. So there'll be thousands of pages of you know,
impact reports and all that stuff associated with it. And
what we've done is bundle it all up into a
one stop shop. So you're not doing your Wildlife Act
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and all these other permits separately from your RMA processes.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You're doing them all at the same time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
So I think one hundred and eighteen days just pretty good.
To be honest, I'm pretty proud of it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, and you and you do want to know that
it has been considered that it's that it's not just
rubber stamped without being being looked at properly.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I think people thought that's what fast Track would be,
you know, all of these wild claims from peace people
when it all started, people saying, oh, this is just
going to be the Minister's assigning all these things and
there will be no environmental protections, and then that that's
just proven to be absolutely nonsense. And it's you know,
most most people, even people who have been quite critical
of it, are now saying, oh, look it's actually going
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pretty well.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So I am genuinely quite proud of that.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Why do you think National is languishing in the polls.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think it's been a tough couple of years economically,
that's the biggest thing. And you know, like that been
too political about it. I mean we inherited an absolute mess,
as you know, yep, And and people people unsurprisingly want
fast progress, right, you know, when you're you're in recession,
you know, I mean if you go all the way
back to twenty twenty, you know, COVID was rough. Then
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we had, you know, these awful economic period on the
back of COVID, you know, huge spending increases, massive inflation
that costs live in crisis on the back of it,
you know, Grant Robertson borro all that money, not not
for COVID, but for anything else that they wanted to
spend money on. That that induced your high inflation. Then
we went into recession. And so if you go all
the way back, it's frankly it's been a rough five
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years for the country, right, and go on the way
back to the twenty twenty period, and I think people
just want things to be better, you know, that's the underlying.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Thing and they want them to be better now.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And they want it now. You know, they want the
cost of living to be cheaper now. You know, they
want they want them, you know, So I get that.
So I think there's a sort of enduring sense of
frustration around the country around that, and I think that
that flows through to our numbers. On the other hand,
I think twenty twenty six is going to be a
good year for New Zealand. You know, I've just I've
just landed in Auckland up here doing another sid turning
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today of a transport project. But if you think about
what's coming for twenty twenty six, You've got city rail
and hopefully you've got the Convention Center opening next this year,
next year. You know, I've got huge projects underway in Auckland,
and you know Cross Chuch has got the new stadium opening,
Cross Reaches going game buses by the ways down at
the end of the day, you know, it's an incredible city.
It's really exciting things happening in Prostitu' looking better And
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it's the.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Thing, I mean, there are a lot of people who
are doing just fine and and you know sort of
have to have to be polite when they listen to
people complain. And the South Island's doing just fine, and
our primary industries are doing just fine after a period
of tough times.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So it's also going through the roof, even despite the
tariffs and stuff. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, and economically you no one point one percent growth
last year announced yesterday, most people saying point eight point nine.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
We ended up at one point one. So better times
are ahead.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
And I know people will say, oh, yeah, you know,
you say that, you know, yeah, yeah, but it is
it is true, you know, all all the sort of
economic commentary is now twenty twenty six is going to
be a much better year and that will start to
flow through to wages, to jobs, just people's sense of optimism,
to hospitality, all of those things that are important.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Did you feel it as taking your politicians had off,
but as as a dead and a mortgage holder, did
you feel the tough times?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Well, I'd be lying if I said to you that
it had been easy. It had been hard because I'm
an MP and i'm a minister, and we're well paid
and people, you know, most people for us, we're overpaid,
you know, uh, you know, we don't see our salaries.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It is what it is. So you know, our family
has been fine.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So I'm not going to sit here and you pretend
sack cloth and ashes.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It hasn't been.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
But for many of my constituents, you know, I'm the
MP for hut South, uh so for many of my constituents.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Life has been hard and and broad and broader Wellington
as well where I live.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, So you know, it's like life has been challenging
for a large and it's not like it's been you know,
that's the thing that hasn't been just a year or two.
It's been a it's been a rough few years for
the country. And you know, one of these discovernment's driving
ambitions is to improve the living standards for New Zealanders
and and that is that is difficut and involves hard
decisions and we are having to make them on a
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daily basis.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You are, So, what are the plans for twenty six
is election year? Elections do good in the way, don't they.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well, we're going to govern all the way right up
until then whenever the election is called. So you know,
we've only got three year terms. You know, we've had
two years now. Next year's election year. Obviously, Parliament comes
back in January, We'll we'll be we'll be governing all
the way up until whenever the election campaign starts. And
that's what I think the znors expect, and I think
sometimes people say, oh, you know, you take election year
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off and.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You spend your life campaigning.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Now there will be a bit of politics next year, obviously,
you know, people it's hard to avoid it. But also
people expect us to govern the country and legislate responsibly
and get on with the job that we're elected to do.
So we'll be doing that clearly. We've got one eye
on the on the election later in the year, and
then it will be later in the year. Don't know
when yet. The PM will announce that in due course,
but we'll always be thinking about that. And you know,
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I'm looking forward to a good, good couple of weeks
off like I think many people, and then sort of
coming back kind of I'll be back back on the
back on deck sort of early January and get get
straight back into it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
RMA is my big focus for next year, that the
replacement Planning Regime. Got to get that into law and
mid year, so that'll be my number one focus next year.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
How much inter party support are there for the big
grunty projects that you've got coming.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Up, Actually more than you would think. So we've worked.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
We've worked relatively constructively with Labor in particular on the
planning reforms, so they voted for it first reading, so
suns to sleep committee. And you've got a lot of
respect for Rachel Brooking, whose Labors spokesperson on planning and
an RMA. So we've had a number of meetings with
her already and said, look, you know, if there's a
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way we can kind of meet in the middle of
it to get it over the line in a bipartisan way,
I think the country would really welcome that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So just wait and see where that goes.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That they're sort of being constructive and open to that,
so let's let's and see. But we've also going to
get good public policy, right, like we're not going to
We're not gonna you know, because you don't want to
end up with creating something by committee because you know
sometimes when you create like even school projection and by
committee that are not quite working.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Out that well.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So you know, you do you have to start with
good policy. So that'll be our starting point. But yeah,
there's potential to meet in the middle. On the infrastructure
funding and financing changes we're making also really important, very
boring people probably listening there, tuning out, but very important
for a functioning housing market and sorting out our infrastructure deficit.
You know, Labour's been pretty broadly supportive of those as well.
So yeah, there's probably a bit more than you'd expect,
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you know, once you strip away all the kind of
the noise around politics on some of the big things
we're trying to do. We are working quite constructively with
with people who are sensible.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
That is reassuring. And so what are the plans for Christmas?
You'll take a couple of weeks off to are you
a beach or a lake or a lay by the pool?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Kind of we live We live in Lower Heart right
right by in Day's Bay, so right by each we
just we're just back from the beach, so and our
sons just those three and a half now, so he's
at that age where the beach is fun and exciting,
and so we'll be there and.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We're going away to Riversdale for a week as well
to the beach.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Been an hour and a half north of Wellington for
a week with some friends, so yeah, looking forward to that.
Like many key we're just kind of you know, getting
out of the major cities and I'm tough. I've just
just landed in Auckland and I'm told that this is
the busiest travel day.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Of the year. It is at our airports, and I
suspect the.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Southern Motorway out of Auckland tonight will be fairly busy
with people heading.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Away and probably north too, actually right, people going.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
North absolutely, So it's a very good time to go
back to Wellington. I would have thought and escape all that.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So yeah, yeah, well just Christmas Day in Wellington, so
looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Have a lovely, lovely break and thank you for the
work you've done this year and look forward to talking
next year.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Thanks carry having Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
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