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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
You'll know Nick Sortner as the CEO of Eden Park,
but what you probably don't know about him is he
is also the leading goalkicker record holder in the Ossie
Ruads Victorian Football League with a whopping eight hundred and
eighty three goals. He's still the record holder. After his
football career, he studied in China, Germany and the USA
before venturing into sports administration. Since his time as eden
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Park boss, he's led the push to deliver more entertainment,
more culture, community events on top of our very much
loved sporting fixtures changes which incidentally have led to record
revenue and the title of eden Park being Venue of
the Year at the International Stadium Business Awards. It's a
pleasure to welcome Nick Sortner on for six in a song.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hello Nick mate, Good afternoon, Jensen. Thank you for your time.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, thank you may Yeah, speaking of time after your
football career, how come you went to China, Germany and
the States to do your study?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, one other thing that I've always been committed to
education and so I had the opportunity to study in
the NBA in China, German, America, and it broadened so
many opened so many doors, and the learning in the
classroom was almost as important, with the connections in the
room as the content that you provide it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Right, Why did you give up the AFL.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, I always wanted to play at the highest level
for the longest period of time. We were fortunate enough
to playing seven Grand Finals and win seven Premierships. So
got to a stage where I had to make a decision.
My career was going quite well and I felt that
there wasn't too much more that I could have achieved
at VFL level.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Can I ask this question very quickly then? Because you
are a superstar in Australia, like everyone knows who you
are because of your AFL career. Was it hard transitioning
out of that, from being a kind of like an
icon and then to a role that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Good Well again again, it was one of those things
that it's very true when I go back to Australia,
I'm known for my sporting prowess rather than my administration.
But I always had a philosophy that AFL or VFL
football would be five chapters of a book of life
and maybe forty five chapters, So what is the other
forty chapters going to be filled with? And I've been
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very fortunate to work in a number of stadiums in
Australia New Zealand and they've been able to balance both
the sporting aspirations and now administration of our national stadium.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, well, of course that stadium is not just about sport.
You've got concerts that take place there. So how much
work goes behind the scenes to try and get those
big names here, the likes of Taylor Swift and how
do you feel when they bypass us?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Well, it's a huge amount of effort and we're very fortunate.
We've got great relations with a number of promoters, including
Live Nation. I always sound it very challenging when I
started the role. That had taken one hundred and twenty
years for Eden Park to be able to provide artists
with the same opportunities as sports people. So once we
secured concerts and we're in a process now to go
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from six concerts to twelve annually, artist came knocking. And
when you look from Pink to Billy Joel Guns n'
Roses to Ed Sheeran. We've got some of the biggest
artists in the world coming and performing at our national
Stadium and we want to see more.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Are they highly temperamental? I mean you get all the
you know, we make jokes, don't we that they only
they demand blue em and ms and that's all I mean.
Do you get I'm not asking for names here, but
do you get that kind of request for kind of
crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
The artists we've had of being just delighted to perform
at Eden Park. We were fortunate that Billy Joel signed
a piano six sixty, signed a number of pianos and
moments at the park Pink she performed on International Women's Day,
the first female artists to perform at our national stadium.
At about two am after the show, she was sitting
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in my Eden Park or Eden Pink colored and she
left the venue and she was just so delighted with
the way that Auckland and New Zealand responded to her performance.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Look, you've just mentioned some big, some great events that
you've held at Eden Park, But what are you most
proud of during your time there.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I think our team, we have a lean team and
we operate under a game plan that's seven values and behaviors,
the first one being customer service. And we know that
very few people or very few venues are perfect, but
the team takes enormous pride in delivering experiences and moments
for the people of Auckland and New Zealand. And to
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see the pride that arose out of the fief of
Women's World Cup nine fixtures, Hannah Wilkinson scoring the opening
goal and a fief of Women's World Cup to have
the thief of President say the best venue each year
arrived at seven matches of the nine and he say
to me each time, my venue, and I'd say, no,
it's mine, that mine. But it was just so wonderful
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to see the venue on the world stage and actually
showcasing what we could deliver.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well. Speaking of that, of course, there's a huge debate
around another stadium for Auckland, and some have been ruled out.
I think there's a couple that are now being debated.
Eden two point oz is one of them. Honestly, I
mean maybe a typical question to answer, Nick, but what
do you think the likelihood of Eden Park being the
go to from here? Do you think? Is it fifty
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to fifty is at sixty forty against or where Well, I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Very proud and parochial towards Eden Park. I've had the
privilege of traveling the world and people. I was escorted
through Johannesburg Airport when I had Eden Park Seolong my
arrival card. So Eden Park has a brand globally. We
only had to see that recently with forty nine victory
straight or Winds, the All Blacks at eden Park and
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the media coverage the fortress that is our venue, Eden
Park's redevelopment. It's a financially responsible, environmentally sustainable option. It's
a hybrid multi purpose stadium and it's going to be
on a curl station seven minutes from town. Now. I
think there's a huge amount of infrastructure and money that's
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been invested in the current venue is a huge amount
of history. But we know we can be better and
our approach is a staged approach to accommodate the upcoming
calendar events, including a T twenty World Cup for cricket
in twenty twenty eight, by extending the boundaries in the north,
but also then looking at a retractable roof.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I personally hope you get it.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, speaking of those big events, you want to get
the state of ohere, state of origin. How likely is that.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
We're working with both central government and counsel around the
state of origin and there's definitely an appetite for league
at Eden Park. We see the Warriors selling out at
Mount Smart. We want to see more league being played
in this country. The nurl A keem the event. It
does come down to the economics, but our capacity is
very similar to most Marvel Stadium and the City Football Stadium,
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so we're very confident we'll see stay of origin at
Eaton Park in the future.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Interesting you'll be aware Nick Takaha Stadium is being built
presently opening I think mid twenty twenty six, that's the rumor.
Do you have concerns about that that that will take
business away from you.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'm looking forward to seeing a route stadium in christ Church.
We've got one in dun Eden and how good would
it be to have a Route stadium in Auckland, that
being Eden Parks. So there's going to be challenges for
all venues with a new stadium coming on board. But
our point of difference is we have a capacity for
concerts in and around fifty five thousand for an end
non stage and over sixty five thousand in the round.
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We're seen with the likes of Pink or Coldplay. The
cost of infrastructure to take from Auckland, from Brisbane to Auckland,
or Melbourne to Auckland then on to christ Church and
dun Eden is very challenging. Lot of artists now are
going to one city and getting people to come to
that venue and playing model the Knights.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Lots of those stadiums that you mentioned sell off the
name right they get sponsors and will you do that
for Eden Park?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We have looked at in the past, but we want
to retain our name. It's one of those iconic stadiums globally,
and we've been fortunate to align with a number of
international leading bands like Katar Railway, Samsung, Tia and then
local brands like AA Insurance who have all invested in
the future of our national stadium. So we've been able
to retain our name and then align with market leaders
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in a number of categories to deliver actually a greater
yield than a naming rights partner would have provided.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
If I was able to give you a magic wand
now neck and say waive it and you can have
one guest to perform at Eden Park, one that would
be on your WESH list the top of that, who
would it be?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well. I was fortunate enough to recently go to Wembley
with my four and six role to see Taylor Swift
and she was genuinely unbelievable. She performed over three hours.
There was ninety thousand fans per show and majority of
them knew every lyric and the way that she engages
with the audience is something that I didn't go across
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to Australia for the tour. I was a bit bitter
and twister that we weren't able to can't have her
at our National Stadium. But on this occasion we went,
we experienced and it was the highlight of the trip
for my girl. So I think they never forgive me
if I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Tape Yeah, no, I think that was a good call. Hey. Lastly,
when you have a music star. I know when Forsyth
Bar opened in Duned and I think their first guest
was Elton John which was great, but there were some
real rumblings then. I'm not sure if it's the same
now to be honest, but there certainly were rumblings about
the acoustics of a big stadium like that. How difficult
is it to get the acoustics right at Eden Park.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well, when you look at now the technology that comes
with artists. They I started out in the industry in
the Earth of two thousand and bands like ACDC they
used to have speakers stacked thirty seven meters tall and
you could hear it as far as Geelong when you're
in Melbourne. Now these days you've got acoustic guitars where
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Ed Sheeran wants every person to hear every lyric. So
the advancements in technology and the productions. You see over
four hundred staff in some instances traveling with artists and
it really is tailored to eat specific venue and eat
specific need of the artist.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Very good, well loving chatting with you. Nick Saortner is
our guest CEO of Eden Park.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Quick by questions, what's one place you never get tired of?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Vited in Queenstown when you land and see the remarkables
and head to third Bakery. I don't think there's anything better.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Great answer. If you had the power to change one
thing in your world, what would it be.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Provide every child the opportunity for education. I think that's
critical and provides a future of our society.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Where did that thirst for education come from? With you?
You've touched on that a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's just been something I was fortunate. Unfortunately my father
passed away when I was two, and much dedicated her
life to three boys, and she put us through a
private school, and it was something that she always emphasized
the importance of education, even though you.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Had a big sporting career, and then of course you
went you went overseas for the NBA at the end
of that, but well done. Hey, what's something you thought
was important when you were young, but as you got
older you've realized it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well. I ran these questions past my wife and she said,
straight up, physical positions. She always says that I've got
too much stuff. My daughters have got too much stuff,
so we do focus on experiences and memories rather than stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Lovely, what's the what's the material position that you just
go on? Man, that's cool sort of. I hear what
my wife says, that flipping cool.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I just I just always feel as though a new
suitor is always needed. Given the role I play. I'm
always wearing suits, so I am a big partial to
a new suit.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Good.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
What are you most proud of in your life so far?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
My wife and my two beautiful girls. My wife's due
in nine weeks time, and we don't know the gender.
I was one of three boys and I've had two girls,
so we'll see what the thirties lovely?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's really nice. Where did you meet your wife?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's a long story. I met her at an ATM
and without without bumping into each other, it was fair
to say she had no interest in really my sporting prowess.
But over time she gained an appreciation.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's an outstanding thing. Well mate. Lastly, if you could
invite any one person for dinner, they have to be
still alive. Any one person who would it be?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well, it was again an interesting question if they were dead.
I was going to say Pt. Barham because he's entertainer.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Isn't that a wonderful movie? Greatest Showman?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
It's just a wonderful story and it actually is so uplisting,
and I think in the challenges that we face as
a society, to have someone who actually provides joy and
entertainment is you can't underestimate. But I will say linking
into an earlier question Taylor Swift, because then I make
sure that she comes and plays Eden part time.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
She do it?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Gotchat you out for dinner? You will say to oh,
cook dinner for you and if you play at Eden Park.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah a very nice. Well, we have really enjoyed chatting
to you, Nick, You're a fascinating man. Before we leave you,
you get to choose one song, any song. What have
you chosen? Please?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And why coldplay Sky Full of Stars. It was actually
our wedding dance on my beautiful wife Eliza and I
and looking forward to their three sold out shows at
Eden Park in November this year.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Brilliant. Thank you so much, Nick, all the very best
and thank you for your time.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Mate, Absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Next Saughtner, I love the song. Good choice. I wish
I was going to Cold plas I should I should
have got tickets and I didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Oh Little Dropkicks sold out? Yeah, dumb bum Cocure sky
the Cosure sky Foo Start
Speaker 1 (14:18):
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