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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Simon Barnett and James Daniels Afternoons
podcast from Newstalks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
EDB News Talks edb Rix Celito. He's done it all
in the world of media and professional sports. He played
rugby and Italy himself. He was the All blacks first
ever media liaison and until very recently was CEO of
New York's professional rugby team. He's also been a journalist,
a TV presenter, and producer, most recognized for his role
in producing presenting the iconic sports tat show sports caf
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That's Now Back, We're kind Of The aptly named sports
Cafe Ish podcast features some of the original cast, including
Alarican's Mark, Alice Lee Hart, Lana Kocroft, and of course
Rick himself. It is a real joy to welcome Rix
Seleitta on for six in a song, good a mate.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Good a mate.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You know, whenever whenever someone says, I Rick played rugby
in Italy. I know John Kerrwan's like, but he was useless.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I was gonna ask you that, to what level did
you play over there?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Oh? I know it's seniors. It was I was young
and this the club I played for Kassali had a
real tradition of New Zealand players and so I was
one of them. And then but they also had Zinzan
Brook and Wayne Smith. So I think the year they
got me ed.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Is this the right person that can we check that
this is the same person that we thought he was?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What position did you play?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Well? I was a loose forward and but they I
was tall, so they put me in that lock, which
I hated. And then they put me on the wing,
which I've never done before.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
That's because they hated you.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I won the sprints that their training and they said, oh,
you must be fast going the wing. I was like,
I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, hey, you actually ricked just before we get into
the thick of it. Am I right in saying? My
recollection was you were kind of one of the first
producers of behind the scenes sports dockers. Didn't you do
those all Blacks on tour with with zim zan Brook
and riding a donkey from memory histerical?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah? So good to bear the rugby and the theme
that was yeah, in hindsight was ahead of its time.
You know, whenever it goes on about oh my god,
if one driver survive it's amazing. I was like, we
did that in nine eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, I thought the same thing.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
So how did you get that gig?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Again? I went to school with JK. So we've run
each other since we're sixteen years old. And he just
said to me one day, he said, you know, he said,
we should books have sort of on the way out,
maybe because he did not reading.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Books are on the way out. Great line.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We should do a VHS like the old tour box.
So we did this VHS and look, we had no
idea what we're doing, but it just went really well.
And you know, I think we sold one hundred and
fifty thousand copies of something ridiculous, but it was. Yeah,
that was a great experience. I loved that.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
So you went to school with John Coohan, Tell us
a little bit more about where you grew up and
how you grew up.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So I grew up in South Auckland, in Mungray and
or when I grew up it with mangry times of changes.
Its cool, And yeah I went to a school called
or Sorry and just bat packing my car, no worry, sorry,
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And then yeah I went to Telself College and and
Jake and I am the first esteen together. I was
a bit old. I was a couple of years older,
so I was the wiser, you know. Yeah, yeah, they
had a big future and I was helping this young
funner out.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's interesting, Rick, because what I'm keen to hear your
take on the media relationship with rugby players now, I
don't know, it just feels very boring, if I'm honest.
It feels like you get the pat answers. It feels
like that all too this is the player. It's too
scared to say anything outside the framework of what they've
been advised to say. Journalists are scared to tread on
the toes of sports stars because that's their bread and butter.
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I don't know, it's just really really boring.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah, I look, I think I think there's an element
of truth there. I mean, the first thing to remember
is all the rugby team that all blacks are really
good people, and you know privately when you talk to them,
they're just great people. You know, they're just interesting and stuff.
But you know, you you get one thing slightly wrong,
you say something slightly sort of you know, sort of
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controversial or something, and you just cop it. You know,
you just you just cop it in social and stuff,
and so they're just careful. But I'm a bit with you.
I mean I miss I miss the mark Ellis's and
the zinzam bros. Yah, even the Jk's. You know, they
always say what they thought, sometimes didn't think. It's a
great combination.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, that's very interesting, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
So you got this podcast Sport Cafe Ish. Sports Cafe
itself was the legendary as well. Now you had some
big names on that program. Who was your best known
guest and what were they like?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I was thinking about the show today and I was thinking,
what was unusual about Sports Cafe when we started is
that we had them then and and mark Ellis on
the show, and both of them were current like Zinny
was currently in the All Blacks and Macca was playing
for the Warriors, and then JK would join us and
he was playing for the Warriors that year. You know,
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Eric Rush was sort of captain the sevens team. So
it was really cool that we would have guys that
on the Saturday were in the middle of the park
and then on the Wednesday sitting on our couch. Some
of the favorite guests, I mean, George Best was a
big favorite the footballer. I loved having people like Peter
Snell and Dick Quax. You know, those people were my heroes.
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Were the surface Sunny Garcia who was a legend, you know,
Colin Meads was was brilliant. We had Lucy Lawless was fun.
You know, we just had a yeah, a lot of fun.
And when the guests came on that sort of understood
the attitude of the show, it just took off and
we had so much fun.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Is it difficult to I mean, I would imagine it's
difficult now being a producer of a show like that
that had you know, I mean some of the stuff
was hysterical, but it would struggle to fly. Now you'd
be canceled. We do live in an age of the
canceled culture. Is that a minefield as a producer of
a show now to still maintain that kind of Larican edge,
that risky kind of on the edge thing, but not
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get canceled.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It should be for a good producer, not for me.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I forget You're good.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm glad to hear that, because it's just, I don't know,
the world's so serious. You need Look, it's okay if
we're offended every now and then yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yes, I don't think people are. I think I think
the bulk of people are the same in New Zealand.
I think New Zealand has a great sense of humor
and most key RESI I know have got it, have
got that sense of humor. But it's just that layer.
It's just that layer. It's I don't know, it's almost
like the middle management of the country that's just looking
for things to be angry about.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
They call it social media, actually wreck. I think that's
the biggest issue. Hey, speaking of New Zealand, and you're
not working in New Zealand. You've been in the USA.
What happened there? How did you get over there? What
were you doing over there?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
So? I was living in Austin, Texas. I was working
on a startup with j K and we decided to
take it to the US and it was it was
going pretty well till COVID came along. And then there's
a competition there called Major League Rugby and a new
New Zealand group, the Bolton The Bolton's brought him to
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the New York team and and they asked me, first
of all, just for some thoughts on it, and then
they hired me as a CEO. So I did three
or four seasons, four seasons up there and it was
just an amazing experience. I had Andy Allis with men. Yeah,
he's a good man, he was my neighbor. He's annoying
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half back.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So Rick going forward, do you do you see just
re quickly before we take a break, do you see
the growth of rugby? You know, are the markets they're
trying to get into, like Japan, like the States, are
they a genuine viable future?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I think so. But I think you've also got to
look at your backyard as well. I think I think
it's important that we reconnect more people to the game.
You know that that we you know, when you go
to a game, you want to get involved. You don't
want to sit passively. So we need to look you know,
you've got to constantly be looking after home first. You know,
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it's flow life. You know, you can't be really good
at work and the pain in the arts at home,
as I found out, you know, so, so I think,
you know, it's great to look at the US, it's
great to look at the UK, South Africa, all these countries,
but it's also important that we make sure that we
have full stadiums, and that everyone and not just at
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all that level, but at super level, and that those
people are connected and passionate and they're spreading the Gospel
and so so I think that's really important too.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Very good newstalksa'd be. Our guest is Rick Salito. Thank
you very much, made for your time. Much to do
park a car, run over a guy?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, it's only a small guy.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Now, quick fire questions. What's one of the nicest compliments
you've ever received.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's a good question. You're not as fad as we
thought you were.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I get you're not very tall, are you. That's my one.
That's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
If you had the power to change one thing in
your particular world, what would it be.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Mark Alice would do what he's told.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
He's always been like that. I remember I've done a
few things with him over the years. I remember somebody
said to me once the great thing about Mark, he's
not bad, he's just mischievous. And it really stayed with
me because he is a mischief.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Isn't he. Well, do you remember we did telethon? Yes,
and it was you and Jason Gunn yourself that the wizard.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That's me Brian, that's right, You've got a good memorable
that's right, lovely care.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, and all I remember is I got sent up
to Cocua and by helicopter with Jason, and the helicopter
landed and we got off and thousands of four hundred
of people came running out, and they all ran past
me to Jason. I was literally standing by myself and
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Brian Ford, the ex all black, come up and said,
Jesus man, I'll stand next to you.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That is too funny. I tackled him once.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Wreck What's something you thought was important when you were young,
but as you got older you've realized.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It wasn't trying to impress people?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I reckon. That's a good one. What
are you most proud of in your life so far?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
My family? How many?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
How many kids have you got?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Just I've got one Carlo He's he's in Ireland. But yeah,
it makes me proud.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Every day, lovely old.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
He's sorry.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Okay, yep, thirteen, We'll let it. That's out.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Hey, what would you consider your worst quality?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I'm ridiculously competitive, and I compete with people that don't
know I'm competing with them, So when I'm walking across
the road. It's a race. It's just no one else knows.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Isn't it a funny thing? I mean, I guess it's
just the their DNA. It's they're hard warring. Because I
did the show years ago called Clash of the Codes,
and we stopped. We were going down south and we
stopped at Topol by the Lake. They all piled all
the effects from different codes, all got out of the
bus and they just found something to compete with everything.
It was like throwing sticks in the lake. It was
picking up how many stones could.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You get in one hand.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I couldn't believe they just turned everything into a comp
And you're obviously like that.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I'm like that. I'm just not quite as talented as
they are.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
How did you get on the move? How did you
get on a villa?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Then? Ridiculous? Vinny and Sean Fitzpatrick two of the most competitive,
aggressive people in the world, and I take them on
all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You get a hide in.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, if you could invite any one person still alive
for dinner, who would that be, Jess.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I've been thinking about this, actually, Yeah, I mean, I
love I'd love to sit down with people like Matt Damon.
I think it's fascinating. Marissa Tom is someone that I
just thinks amazing. Yes, you know, yeah, yeah, I'll have
both of those two.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Thanks, you're only allowed one. I'll have Marissa. Then you have.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We've really enjoyed chatting with you, Rick, Thank you very much,
all of their very best with the New Sports Cafe podcast.
And before you go, mate, you've got a choice of song.
And why have you chosen this one?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Please?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah? I thought about this and it's about the only
thing I thought about and the song that has inspires
me all the time as the water Boys, the Whole
of the Moon. Good choice, yeah, and but but it's
not the chong I'm going to choose. Song I'm going
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to choose is when I was in New York, I
learned a really important lesson. You know that there's New
York's got an incredible skyline and all these skyscrapers, and
there's all these people that work in the skyscrapers and
and they do amazing stuff. But there's a group of
people called the iron workers that built the skyscrapers, and
they Our rugby team was called the Ironworkers, and we
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spent time with them and they used the phrase which
really stuck with me, is changing the skyline. And it's like,
you can be a person that works in the office,
or you can be someone that changes the skyline. And
I just found that so incredibly inspirational, and that's who
I want to be. Want to be someone that changes
the skyline. You know, that just makes a difference. And
so the song that really every time I hear it,
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you know, brings up a really emotional feeling of living
in New York. And it's Alicia Keys and jay Z.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know, is that New York?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, well that is a better choice than I got.
Goose Bumps man, Yep, the water Boys suck. We're going
to play that song for you, wreck mate. Really enjoyable
chatting with you. Thank you so much for your time.
My pleasure, Rex Alita And this is a banging song
New York at News Talk zb banger actually.
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