Full Show Podcast: 31 October 2024

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for Thursday the 31st of October - stories of intervention on the back of increasing numbers of incidents on public transport.

The Afternoons team debate the value of taking a gap year.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello all you great New Zealanders, and welcome to a
very special Halloween edition of The Matt and Tyler Afternoons
on News Talk zed B. We get to Halloween later on.
We've got some horrible songs, We've got some horrific movies.
And in the first hour.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
We talked about intervention. That was is it okay? Look?
This is on the back of some pretty hairy situations
on old public transport. And we talked about on the
sports field, kids games, parents going a bit crazy. Is
it too full noise to intervene?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (00:50):
We heard a lot of really interesting stories about people
that have intervened in violent situations and terrifying situations, and
we talked to Mark an X cop about what you
actually need to do.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
He was great, wasn't he?

Speaker 6 (01:00):
He was great? So fantastic show.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We talked about the gap year. Wait before we give
him a taste the KeyWe let's talk about the gamp year.

Speaker 7 (01:08):
It was a fantastic how gap Yeah, people coming and
sport on, kids going on their gap year because the
year thirteen's are finishing up for the year right now,
So that's a great hour as well.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Give him a taste of kiwish.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
All right there, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:23):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four News talk zaid.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Hello, welcome into the show Thursday afternoon. Matt's how you doing.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
I'm terrified today It's Halloween.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
It's a terrifying, very.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Very scary day.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Scared though, I've already.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Seen a witch and some cobwebs this morning, so yeah,
I'm on edge.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I didn't nice you about the Trevor of Scott concert. Actually,
you live incredibly close to Eden Park. That's all I
saw online last night, and how blooming allowed that concert was.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, the wind was going the other way so I
couldn't hear at my house. But I live near Eaton
Park because I love the concerts and I love being
close to the sporting fixtures, just being able to walk
down the road.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You're almost like the opposite of Helen Clark. You love it,
you bring it on concerts.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Twenty concerts a year, I'd be happy. Although I've got
to say post post Trevor Scott concert, there. There was
a bit of ruckus on the road just in front
of my house. It was a little bit of a ruckus.
I was about to go out. I was about to
go out and say something.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Not really, you're twitching those curtains and say what are
these youngsters up to? How dare you?

Speaker 9 (02:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:28):
No, it was definitely a sort of a raucous situation
post concert. But no, I couldn't hear a sound from
joining the concert, which is amazing. I'm only four hundred
meters from the ground.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Good insulation obviously, right onto the show after three o'clock.
As you mentioned it as Halloween, so we're going to
be chatting Halloween stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, that's right. How do you celebrate it? I like
to watch a horror movie with my kids. I'm a
big fan of forcing my kids to watch horror movies.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
Wow, forcing them, they love it.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
It's great. It's great to scare them. It's a great
way to celebrate Halloween if you do. How do you celebrate?

Speaker 6 (02:57):
Also? What is the best horror movie ever? I watched?
As I said before, I watched Late Night.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
I was saying to you before Tyler, not to everyone,
that I watched Late Night with the Devil Last Night.
Fantastic horror movie, really really good.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I love that too. It I think it's just dropped,
if that's the right word on Netflix.

Speaker 10 (03:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
And it looks like a B movie, It honestly does.
It looks like this is good.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
It looks it looks like a nineteen seventy seven television
show because it's based around a talk show from that era.
Everything Happens. It's sort of semi found footage show from
a Letterman style talkback show, a late night show which
they bring a kid that's possessed on it all goes crazy.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's great, so well done. That is after three o'clock.
After two o'clock we're going to be talking about gap years.
What is the benefit of a gap year? Have you
done it? Are your children about to do it? Your
one of your children is about to do it?

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, so a lot of kids finishing up your thirteen's
My oldest son finished school, which made me feel amazing.
I managed to get a kid through school, which is
when you're holding it, when you're holding them in your hand,
in their butt is smaller than your head.

Speaker 10 (04:04):
Love.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
If he's saying this, when their butts, they can hold
them in their hand, and they're but smaller than your hand,
and then suddenly there are six foot two hundred kg
mostly monster leaving school. You feel amazing about it. But
he's choosing to do a gap year. He's choosing not
to go to university straight off or any sort of
tertiary education, and I feel good about it. I think

(04:27):
it's a good option because he hasn't decided exactly what
he wants to do.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Before you start.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Running up a debt and wasting a year of life
going on in a course you don't know which way
you really want to go. Whereas being you know, in
the real world for a year that focuses your attention.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
That teaches you a lot of stuff. And there's been
a massive increase in the number of kids leaving school
doing a gap year in the US and the UK.
So that's going to be a good chat after two o'clock.
But right now we want to talk about intervening incidences.
This is on the back of Auckland Transport data which
shows the agency reported an average of more than ninety
three incidents a week on public transport, and also a

(05:05):
story Aren't Today about a police investigation into an assault
at a children's football tournament. This was allegedly one of
the parents took umbrage at what the coach was doing
and assaulted that coach.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
It is the most revolting behavior if you are at
a kid's football match and you assault the coach.

Speaker 8 (05:25):
What are you?

Speaker 6 (05:26):
What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (05:27):
That's crazy town, isn't it that you're getting pretty lowly?
You're getting pretty low on the scale of things that
you're getting up to.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, but we know it is being pretty scary on
public transport, particularly in Auckland over the last couple of months.
But on the intervening, because this is a big question
and Mayor Wayne Brown said that he would like to
see more police officers on these buses, but he admitted
that that's a hard thing to do. Resources at tight
at the moment when it comes to police and we

(05:53):
just can't have them on every bus. But when it
comes to us as members of society, do we have
a responsibility to intervene more when we see these things?

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, I mean, I'd like to think I was the
kind of person that would intervene, but I'm not sure
it's easy to say that you would. And there's definitely
people that have And there was one occasion when I
did an intervene, but at that time I was eleven
years old, so it was a bit of a different,
lower stake situation.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
What happened. What happened.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
A kid was builling another kid.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I waited till we were on Filton Road and we
were at a steep incline, and I ran down the
bus from the back and tackled this guy into that's
much bigger than me.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
He used the gravity to your advantage.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I did, and then wailed on him. But that's a
very different situation. It's terrifying out there, and you'd love
to think you were that person, but then you get involved,
you don't know how much you're going to escalate the situation.
So do you intervene? How do you deal with these
incidents if you see them, if there's not going to
be police around, and there are going to be more
and more incidents happening. I mean, there was fights at

(06:50):
Travis Scott concert last night, and as I said before,
I sort of heard outside the front of my house
what sounded like a fight was about to fire up,
and I was about to sort of go out and
have a lock, but it sort of moved on. I
couldn't see anything when I peered, like a wimp out
the Venetian blinds.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
But it feels more danger us out there, doesn't it.
And I'm in the same campus you. I'd like to
think that I would step up and intervene if I
saw something untoward going on and somebody was in trouble
and I was the only one around, or even if
there are other people around. Someone's got to make a
first move. But in the back of a lot of
people's minds now is what are they caring? Do they
have a weapon on them? If it's a group of them,

(07:27):
are they going to turn on me? And then we're
both in trouble here the you know, victim, and then
yourself you get caught into the mix. I mean, there's
a lot to think about.

Speaker 11 (07:35):
Now.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Should you intervene? Have you intervened? I'll tell you one
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I'll tell you very shortly about a incident that happened
ten years ago on a bus in christ Church where
I didn't intervene as quickly as I should have. But
love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
As Matt said, nine two nine two is the text number.
Have you been in a situation where you wanted to
intervene and you didn't, or indeed, if you have intervened recently,

(08:01):
Love to hear from you, what was a situation going on?
Did other people come around to help you? Love to
hear from you. It is third teen past one.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
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Speaker 3 (08:20):
Be sixteen past one.

Speaker 12 (08:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
A lot more.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Assaults and bad behavior on public transport. There were fights
at the Travis Scott concert last night. There's trouble at kids'
sports greens. Should you intervene? How do you intervene? Have
you intervened? Is it up to citizens to police these
kind of situations? Welcome to the show, Mary Anne, How
are you. You've got a story from subway.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
In New York?

Speaker 13 (08:43):
Yeah, I have.

Speaker 14 (08:45):
So I was over there. It's a few years ago. Now,
I'm in my early sixties, so I was still reason
be elderly.

Speaker 11 (08:52):
At this point.

Speaker 14 (08:53):
I saw this guy and he had his girlfriend up
against the side of the train and he had his
hands around her neck.

Speaker 15 (08:59):
He had one hand around in nick and he.

Speaker 14 (09:01):
Was just quietly throttling her. Now, I have spent a
long time working as a criminal lawyer, and in fact,
now there's a separate offense of strangulation of a man
of a woman, but at that time there wasn't. But
I can tell you it's an incredibly dangerous sign. So anyway,
I didn't physically and then but I yelled out very

(09:22):
loudly in this crowded train, excuse me this for you,
all right, And that drew everybody's attention to what was
going on. And then I said, if you, if you
put her again, I'm fulleing that emergency cord. And you
know he did step away from her. But I remember

(09:42):
I then met my son and he says, oh my god, Mum,
you could have got shot.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Well, good on you, But that seems quite That seems
very brave in another country, because at least in your
own country, you kind of know how things go down,
you know the rules, and you say, people have weapons
over there in the States, So that was very brave
of you.

Speaker 14 (10:03):
Well, I think the other thing was that you know,
immediately at the moment I opened my mouth, everybody could
tell that I wasn't a local, and so it was like, oh, yeah,
this this person, and like, honestly, I got lots of
nods and you know, sort of quiet thumbs up afterwards,
and so I just think it was seriously, it didn't

(10:26):
even occur to me for a second not to say anything,
Well good on.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
You, Mary Anne.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Do you think you were the only person that had
seen what was going on? Do you think people had
sort of seen it and decided not to react, to
pretend like it wasn't happening.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
No.

Speaker 14 (10:41):
I think I probably was the only one that saw
it because it was a busy, crowded.

Speaker 10 (10:46):
You know.

Speaker 13 (10:48):
Train.

Speaker 14 (10:49):
I was standing up strap hanging, so I could see
this guy. He was down towards the end, not that
far away from me, you know, maybe three meters away.
And New Yorkers, you know, they just get in their
zone and maybe don't make eye contact and they whereas
you know, that's not our culture really, So I don't
I don't believe anybody did. But I think, you know,

(11:11):
as soon as I said something, was like, oh God,
what's going on here?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know, Now, Marian got a possibly unanswerable question here,
But do you think if the train had been just
you and the two people on there. Do you think
you would have reacted in the same way.

Speaker 11 (11:28):
Well, I'd like to think I would.

Speaker 14 (11:30):
Yeah, did you like to think I would?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
I mean, I'm not answering you because you've already done
something really brave asking but that would become really really
really really testing, wouldn't it.

Speaker 11 (11:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Did you think about if I say something here, I
could get hurt, this guy could come at me. Or
you didn't even think about it. You just saw this
woman getting hat and thinking I'm going to yell here
because this isn't right.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah, well, Marian, you're a good person.

Speaker 14 (11:54):
I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Yeah, you're a good person, very brave.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to cool love to hear from you if you've been
in a situation where you have intervened, or if you've
been in a situation where you thought, no, I cannot
intervene here because there's no nobody else around and they
could sit on me. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is number to call quick takes to the break.
I wouldn't get involved. Police are more likely to charge
me than the criminal if I get involved.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
I mean, I don't know if that's the case in
New Zealand. It's definitely that some of that stuff'sppened in
America lately. But yeah, I mean, if you're going to
get involved and do the right thing, are you worrying
about the consequences for yourself?

Speaker 16 (12:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (12:34):
I guess that's what bravery is, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Absolutely, It is twenty past one. You're listening to Matt
and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Putting the tough questions to the news speakers, the mike
asking breakfast.

Speaker 17 (12:44):
It's an alarming, if not shocking figures around our public
transport in Auckland. We now know they are dealing with
more than ninety three incidents a week in terms of
security issues. What's been done about this is the mirror
of Auckland is Wayne Brown of course as well.

Speaker 18 (12:56):
As it's probably a reflection of society unfortunately. Or in
the Pavia yesterday, there's shocking numbers of the kids who
aren't going know of them are going to be tradesmen
or doctors. Let's writing as well, So there is an
issue right across the hard society. Transport is reflecting that
they want to draw. That's an increasing their percentage of
people on kitchen transport, which is good that more people
are getting on buses, but more of the wrong people

(13:17):
as well as the right people as well.

Speaker 17 (13:19):
Obviously, back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast
with Bayley's Real Estate News Talk z B.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Very good afternoons. You it's twenty three past one, and
that's what we're talking about right now, the problems on
public transport and safety. Mayor Wayne Brown has suggested more
cops on buses, but we are asking the question about
community intervention. Whether you've been in a situation, not just
on public transport, but anywhere where you've seen untoward behavior,
did you step in? Would you step in? Considering the

(13:47):
dangers that we face now.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Should you step in?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Should you step in? Steve? What do you reckon?

Speaker 11 (13:52):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (13:53):
Guys? Yeah, this one's quite close to home because I
was just requently over in Sydney of Australia walking through
it all in the downtown city there, and I saw
three guys who I describe as I guess sha is
probably the word the dos know what that is? Bailing
up two young guys do two young well dressed kids

(14:14):
really in the walkway towards the toilet, and I walked
past and went, all, this just doesn't look right. I
said my wife, I'm just going to back peter a
little bit here. She gave me a weird look because
she doesn't like that sort of stuff. But I backed
it a little bit and I just stood there and
I just watched and watched the situation. Then they saw me,
and I just stood there. I just kept staring at them.
These kids were looking terrified. And then the three guys

(14:34):
walked away and left them. So I went upstair to
the guys. He goes the right, excuse me, and then
they explained to me, yeah, look, hey, I don't know
who they are or what was going on there. And
then they said, I don't worry, and then they ran off.
Wow got the better of me and may and I'm
described probably as either a gentle giant or a scary
looking dude, one or the other, depending on who's talking

(14:56):
to me. So I thought, you know what, I'm just
going to follow these guys out here, and my wife's
telling me not to. I'm like, nah, no, no, no no.
So I went up to them and just in the street,
and I said, hey, guys, what's going on there? They said,
what do you mean? I said, well, what was that
all about? Why are you bad? Those kids up in
the toilet and just walking around the mall boiling people up,
And he goes, oh, I've just got beef with them.
I said, what sort of whatever beef you've got, keep
it out of the public. Then as little mate just

(15:17):
turns around and goes, yeah, just stay out of it.
So I turned out to mate, I'm the last person
you want to mess with boys and the space being white,
and they ran off right, and anyway, I go back.
My wife's a bit scared and no way back in.
And then as I'm walking out the door, another guy
comes up and goes, oh, well done there, mate, I
was watching from the other side. He goes, not many
people would stop, and it actually intervene in a situation
like that. He had caught up with the boys as

(15:39):
they ran through the mall and they were boiling their
eyes out. These guys would just walk around the mall
trying to rob people, right, wow, and yeah, just something
about the situation didn't look right and just made me go,
that just doesn't look like a right scene to me. Right,
five people and three of them don't look like the
other two.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, so Stevie, you're you say you're a big guy,
a gentle giant, scary looking guy. Potentially, do you also
have the skills if things went down? Would you back
yourself if things that escalated?

Speaker 12 (16:07):
I would, But it's still done right. They could be
carrying anything, they can have anything on So you know
my wife. That was where my wife was that she's
an emergency nurse and she goes, look that that can
go wrong so quickly.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, did it go through your head, Steve, It's interesting
you mentioned your wife was with you. Did that come
into the consideration that if you step in that because
you've got your wife with you, that she may come
in the crossfire as well.

Speaker 12 (16:31):
We'll tell you what. She's a scary woman. I wouldn't
met with. But you're right, I kept through a distance, right,
I kept through when I walked out to tape and
I left her in the more I wouldn't. I wouldn't
drag her into that situation. But she she had been
an emergency nurse. She had seen some bad situations right,
So to her it was like, wow, I've seen it
all go bad so quickly. But also I felt for

(16:52):
these two young kids who were just getting bailed up. Yeah,
you know they're out them all for a good time
with their mates, and next minute they've got these three
little scumbags, you know, pushing them up for their money
and whatnot.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
So were you good men, Steve that we need to
steve on every corner? Yeah, those boys were lucky they
had a Steve around.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
What are you doing? What are you doing today' Steve?
Do you want to jump on some buses? Maame meya?
Wayne Brown will be happy.

Speaker 12 (17:16):
Yeah, well if he wants to reduce my.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Rate for be happy, good man, Hugh, how are you.

Speaker 19 (17:22):
D just let me pull over?

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Okay, we'll let you pull over. Safety first.

Speaker 20 (17:26):
You how you doing?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (17:28):
We good?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
How are you good?

Speaker 21 (17:30):
So I intervened and it went the other bloody away.
This would be few years back in Saturday night at
eleven o'clock, my wife calls me in a about a
sixteen year old boys getting a beating from an adult skinhead,
this weirdy looking, nasty looking skin head, and he was
playing with him. He was bouncing back with them forwards

(17:51):
and beating this kid. So I grabbed a baseball bat
and ran outside, get out and confront. That's going to
get between him and the kid and go just go away, sorry,
And he goes, oh, you're a tough guy with a
baseball bat, and somewhat unwisely, I went rarely put my
baseball bat down behind me and went here about now,

(18:15):
and I didn't see that he had two mates in
his car, went around behind me, picked up the baseball bat,
hit me in the head so far hard it tipped
me over a fence and broke both my upper and
lower jawsh.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Oh, gosh, wow you and what you know? Were you
left alone at that point?

Speaker 21 (18:36):
Yeah, skinheads took off because they were in trouble. Yep,
it turned out there was another boy with someone that
was being beat up. They got me into my wife
and then they took off. Wow, And yeah, I got
carted off to hospital. Cops came and blah blah blah.
Cops went very interested.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Well that's that's really really horrible. And you know, boy, boy,
what a what a full on situation. I mean, you
saved the day by the sounds of things because the
skinheads went off, but you definitely didn't save yourself.

Speaker 21 (19:09):
No, And I ended up with a long term brain injury,
not a real serious one. That it affected the way
I run my business.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
So going going sorry to you, going forward if you
had your time again and so sorry what happened to you?
You know, it's clearly not right, and I hope those
scumbags were caught and the book was thrown at them.
But looking back, would you intervene again? Well, clearly not.
But I suppose that's the point that's too dangerous.

Speaker 21 (19:38):
I would do it differently. I would bring the police
and go out and yell at them from the two
of the distance away. But yes, I would definitely intervene,
because what happens if we don't y.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Yeah, well that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
So so you think if you went back, it was
the going out with the baseball bat that on the.

Speaker 21 (19:56):
Ground that was there. I actually I shouldn't have taken
a weapon with me. I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah yeah, but I mean yeah, I mean you shouldn't,
should have, could have would What you did was a
brave and honorable thing that turned on you, and so
you don't need to question what you did there. But
and I know they says that that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
I mean, sorry you said you go toime.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
I was just going to say, that's what the police
would say is that you don't use a weapon, because
more times than not they take it off you the
offender and use it against you. But that wouldn't stop
me from taking a weapon in those situations. It just wouldn't.
You've got to have something to try and back yourself up.
But I mean, it's terrible what happened to you, Hugh.
And you're right, you know, going going. If you had
your time again, you'd ring the cops. But when you're

(20:43):
in that scenario there, yeah, yeah, I mean there's a
text that's come through for you, Hue. It says, Hue, mates,
there aren't many people like you left. You're a damn
good human. Sorry to hear what happened to you, Bud.

Speaker 11 (20:55):
That's cool.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Well, thanks for sharing its story, Hugh.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
And I hope your health issues are okay after doing that.
I mean, that's the thing that everyone's fearful of, isn't it.
If they do intervene, then they become the victim.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, have you got a you got a weapon by
your bet? I should rephrase that, have you got something
by your bed that you can use if someone breaks
into your house?

Speaker 6 (21:20):
I'm juvenile?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
No, No, I don't but I do have a baseball
bat by the door and a cricket bat by the
other door. I do, and I've never used them, but
I do have them there because I've never had to
use them. But for some reason, i just think that
maybe I might have to use them. I've got, you know,
kids upstairs, and I've thought about the situation where someone's
just trying to get in and you have to have
to do something. I mean, I've seen defense videos before

(21:46):
where they say you should have something a long stick.
This is what they say they do if someone comes
into your house. It's a bit different when you're outside,
but that you should have a long stick or whatever
it is, but it should have a handle that you
hold on to it so it's around your hand or
so it can't be pulled off you and you just
y'll get out, get out, get out, get out, get out,
get out, get out, and give them an opportunity to
get out. But I mean that's a different situation when

(22:07):
they're on the on the street.

Speaker 12 (22:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (22:10):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call love to hear from you of you have been
in a situation where you have intervened and it either
worked out or like poor old you didn't work out
so well, or indeed that you decided to call the
police and they showed up and did what they needed
to do.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
We've got a text here from Mark Cure a team
as a former police officer self defense instructor, calling the
police should be the first priority. If you fear a
grievous bodily harm or death and you're a confident in
handling the scenario, snapper step in. You will only be
charged if you use excessive force. Use force. Using force
should be the last resource resort. But those scenarios can

(22:46):
go so bad, so quick. That's from Mark. Thank good
for that.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, good text. It is twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 3 (24:12):
Thank you, Ayleen. It's twenty four to two.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yeah, we're talking about intervening in incidence.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
There's a whole heap of concerning incidents happening on public
transport in Auckland, and you know you only have to
read the news any day to see terrible things happening around.
But should you jump in and intervene? I've got a
question for you. Do you think people are more likely
to intervene if there's a lot of people around, or

(24:38):
if there's not very many people around, or if you're
the only person around? Leading question, Well, straight off the bed,
I'd say if there's a lot of people around, I
feel like this is a truck question.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Probably. I think if there's other people around, then you
feel a bit more confident to jump in to know
if it goes sideways, at least you've got Becker.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Well.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Oddly, it's called the bystander effect. Studies have found in
the case of emergency or violent act, when people believe
there are other people around, that are less likely to
help a victim because they believe someone else will take
responsibility or they have plausible deniability for not helping. People
will also fail to take responsibility for the situation, depending

(25:16):
on the context, So start is fine. If you're a
person on your own or with just a couple of people,
you're more likely to intervene than if you're in a crowd. Interesting,
isn't it?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
That's very interesting? Greg get a mate.

Speaker 23 (25:27):
You know, boys, what I like to think we would intervene.
It was probably twenty years ago, the Prendice boil that
I had just now. One of my really good friends
he was telling me don't and with the intent of
a mess and fhetamine. His uncle was equipped to intervene,
and he tried intervene and got himself killed. Yeah, and

(25:48):
he was equipped to do it.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Right, Greg, what do you mean by what specifically do
you mean by equipped to do it?

Speaker 23 (25:56):
It was a policeman intervene, right, and he still got
himself killed, right.

Speaker 24 (26:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (26:01):
So Morelton's story is if you suspect someone's on mess in,
don a divine because they're just bullet present ten feet
tall and it's very difficult, you know. And so I
would have thought of that stage when I was a
lot younger. I would definitely intervened, but not probably not
so much now, unfortunately, depending on the situation obviously. And

(26:22):
then you're talking about things at home. I've got a
candlelabra believe it or not, with four fairly large and
it's quite heavy, and all I do is keep it
by the bed with some candles that look then and
you put it in front of you, and it's like
a shield because it sticks out about the foot and
it's very heavy, and I think someone's coming at you
with the knife. It's got four things out of it.

(26:43):
It's actually would be quite a good defensive weapon. And
if you're not allow you're not allowed to arm yourself.
You know, you're allowed baseball, you get the ones to
get in trouble. But by having the bent candles sitting
by the bed, I figure, you know, I can say
I was just having a nice romantic night.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, smart, very smart.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah. I mean I've seen a few people are methan
fi to mean fire up and it is terrifying. It's
like dealing it's not like it's like dealing with the zombie,
the rage and the terror that they bring to a situation.
I actually saw on a bus at one point, and
this I don't know for sure he was messed up,
but I can that's the only explanation that I can have.

(27:22):
Just banging on the bus. I wasn't on the bus,
but banging.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
On the bus. Tried to get in.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
The bus driver shut the doors on him, and he
was just banging on the bus and the bus.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Driver drove off.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
This was in Grayland and Auckland and he's still banging
on the bus and the bus driver hit traffic and
could get away. It was like a zombie attack. And
I mean that's very very you certainly can't reason with it.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, thank you very much, Greg. But they're not on
their right mind, though, are they? And I think to
Greg's point, whether he would step in now, probably not
when he was a younger man. And I think part
of his point there is it does feel more dangerous.
People are more unpredictable because you don't know what sort
of drugs they are on, what that carrying. Twenty years ago.
I don't think we had that problem, not to the
same level.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
But I reckon as well.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
We all think that we all imagine that where Bruce
Willison die hard and we could step in, Yeah, and
we kind of imagine in our minds something more than
we are. And well, I mean, as Mark said, you know,
the first thing you got to do is called the police. Yeah,
you know, immediately, and then I don't know, scream from

(28:23):
our way back. It's tough. It's like one of those
things that's a complete gray area.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Yep, there's no right or wrong answer.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah. O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty love
to hear from you on this one. It is twenty
to two, the.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything
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Speaker 3 (28:43):
Four US Talk said, be afternoon, Ken.

Speaker 19 (28:47):
Goodday guys. I heard you're talking about protecting yourself if
your head an home invader. The best suggestion I've heard
is a wood saw, just an ordinary handsaw with the
wooden handle on the end of it, plus the candle
on the end of it. You could say, I'm doing
some home renovations and this was just the first thing

(29:08):
I grabbed to protect myself. Imagine someone kind of grabbed
that off you if they broke into your home.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, it wouldn't go well.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Because it's got it's got a strong handle that you
can that you can hold on to, and it's also
got a horrible serrated edge, and.

Speaker 19 (29:25):
It's not a defensive weapon, ye anything, As you've been
doing some home renovations and that's what your head's handy. Yeah,
Fortunately I've never had to use it, and whether I
ever would, who knows.

Speaker 25 (29:38):
Well.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
What I've heard, Ken, is that the best thing you
can do if someone comes into your house is tell
them what to do, because often they've been surprised that
there's someone in there, or they are in a bad state.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
The drunk, or they're on whatever.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
So saying get out, get out, get out, get out
the door, get out the door, get out the door,
just yelling them and giving them an option to get out,
because they're not thinking very clever, so you might just
get into the head and they might run out the door.
Soa a wave a handsaw at them and get them
out of there.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, it's good idea.

Speaker 24 (30:08):
Though.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
A dog also works really well, even if in My
dog Pepper, beautiful dog. She's not a guard dog, but
she goes absolutely ballistic and she sounds mean. She's not
a mean dog. If they ever got close to it,
she'd run away and leave us for dead. But in
the moment someone breaks in or get us into the house,
she doesn't know how she goes crazy.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Well, there was an incident on my street and I
went out with to have a lock what was going on,
to try and be a good Samaritan and see what happened.
And I went out and I went down the driveway
and I looked out, and then I looked back. My
dog Colin, who's a mini snail as a jack Russell cross,
a little snack. He was standing in the door with
his head around, peering around the corner at me like
a coward.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Edge your back.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
No, it was zero backup. He was more scared than
I was. Zero backup from Colin.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Liam, how are you doing all right?

Speaker 26 (30:55):
Thinks?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
What's your thoughts on this one?

Speaker 27 (30:58):
I was just saying, like, well, you were saying, how
it's sometimes you know, better to do nothing and just
call the police. But and many times, you know, when
you really need the it takes a really long time
to get there, and the amount of time it's going
to take for them to get there, if something's going on,
it's going to happen. Yeah, And so yeah, just anything

(31:18):
like if you've got a mag light or any sort
of torch, especially if you're in the dark, you've got
a very good way to blind them, startle them, and
then like you're saying, commence them to get out of there,
but you know you also have the that's all always
a very good viable option, any sort of heavy torch.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Yeah, Liam, even if the police are going to take
a while to get there, though, I guess before you
do anything at all, if you can ring the police
so the call has been put through.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, and I think you know, I thank you
very much for your phone call, Liam, And I know
people have had their frustrations with the cops in the past,
but I think the person on the other line at
the call center, when they can understand the gravity of
the situation that you're facing and you tell them you
stay with them the whole time or the police are coming,
then that starts to escalate it up. And if your
life is in danger, they will get there. Don't worry
about that.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, And if you're on the phone to the police
at the same time saying that I'm on the phone
to the police, that's something. And look, the police may
take whatever time they take to get there, but it's
a lot sooner from when you call. So if you
call sooner, the police will be there sooner.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Absolutely. It is thirteen minutes to two. You're listening to
Matt and Tyler. Good afternoon to.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
You, Mattiat Tyler Adams seeking your calls on eight Tyler
Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
News doorgs be news?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Doorgs? They'd be mark very good to chat to you
because you're a former police officer, is that right?

Speaker 28 (32:39):
Yes, with the police from two thousand and seven to
twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Great, And so what should people do if they see
something happening on the street that is untoward or they
think that somebody might be in danger? What should they
do in that scenario?

Speaker 28 (32:55):
So again, as you perst for your callers, they've all
called in and each scenario even though that has been
quite different, and you know it's time place circumstances. You
had your caller who was stuck on the subway train.
You know, if it turns bad, you've.

Speaker 12 (33:10):
Got not to go.

Speaker 28 (33:11):
You know, you're locked in the tube. If you're outside
of your house, you can retreat to the security of
your home. So it depends where you are and what
level of confidence you have in dealing with an aggressive person.
My advice is, if you're going to make that decision
to step in, do it from a distance. That first engagement,

(33:31):
they will kind of respond either aggressively or walk away.
But you don't want to be standing next to them
when you engage. Try and use distance. As your friend
always called police. You know, if it's that bad that
you need to step in. I would inform police you're
going to be stepping in that there is a possibility
of a violent situation that's going to happen. Rather have

(33:53):
like you've said before, rather have police on their way.
Then it becomes really bad and now you're trying to
defend yourself and call police. So is it fear a
little things? All the smartphones now have a built in
so fetcher Apple use them so you can go into
Apple settings and set yours calls up so you don't

(34:14):
have to unlock your phone and automatically goes through to
police and it will show your location.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
That's great advice.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
That's a really good thing for everyone to set up
on their phone so they're just ready to go so
they're not fumbling around trying to unlock their phone and
tend it on. When you say that you step in
from a distance, mark, what would you suggest is the
first kind of things that you start selling saying or
yelling from a distance, so.

Speaker 28 (34:41):
Distance a noise is your friends. You know, likes to
teach self affairs classes. We have a lot of females
and people walk go quiet. A lot of people can
go fly when they're going to shock. It's a natural defense.
But make noise. You never know who's nearby. You never
know if there's if your early morning jogger or whatever

(35:02):
out by yourself. Make noise. You don't know who's going
to hear you. So make noise, bring attention to that person,
and it helps bring other people's attention who may not
be aware of what's happening to you and what's happening
near there.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
So do you describe what's going on? Do you say,
I'm calling the police? Do you yell them, yell directions
at them?

Speaker 12 (35:26):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 28 (35:27):
I would just be yelling how I'm on the phone
the police. Have your phone in your hand and be
forming it, have it extra Yes, I'm on the phone
right now.

Speaker 25 (35:34):
Police.

Speaker 28 (35:34):
They're on their way, they're coming on their way and
just yelling. Other people say, hey, look what that person's doing.
What of that person's doing. But again this is right
because they turned and they want to charge at you.
Make sure you know where you're going to go. You
know if your vehicle's near by, and make sure you
can get into your vehicle or going into a store
somewhere where you can just have some sort of barrier

(35:55):
of delay or safety.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah, brilliant stuff. Great advice. Why did you leave the
force just quickly, Marke?

Speaker 28 (36:03):
I went into the private sector. Yeah, I was close protection.
We're bringing your government to the weks of private sector.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for your expertise, Mark, brilliant,
brilliant way to finish that discussion.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
It is seven minutes to two.

Speaker 8 (36:18):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
We'll change tack here a little bit. It is Halloween today.
I'm a big fan of Halloween's so, and after after
three we're going to be talking about scary movies and
how people celebrate Halloween and how people feel about Halloween.
I love it, and so I have concocted the official
Matt and Tyler Afternoons on ZB top five Halloween songs,
Yes You of all Time and at number five, so

(36:44):
called Killers from nineteen seventy seven.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
Talking here, it's Psycho Killer. What a tune?

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, very goods a little bit.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Speaking at number four to Michael Jackson, thriller, although I
think he meant to sing horror, not thriller. I think
you've got the word wrong there. It's not really he's
not really describing a thriller. He's just decribbing a Horror
with the zombies. Great music video, fantastic music video. Add
number three, D.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Add number three.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
A bit of mixing problems there for the DJ number
three Ghost Basters Ray Packard Junior No. Ninety four from
the movie When I was a kid, the song used
to scare me. Yeah, yeah, if it came on a
night in my room by myself, I'd get quite scared.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
The movie is not that scary as.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
In the library it's scary.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, okay. At number two from ninety four Zombie
by the Cranberries terrifying zombies.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, nobody likes sombies. Everyone loves the Cranberries.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
That and what will number one be? From nineteen seventy eight.
Brian Devon Wals of London, Good List, goodlest there are
your top five, your official top five Halloween.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
That is a great song, isn't it Wherees of London?

Speaker 18 (38:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Yeah, was that before.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Sweet Home Alabama? The other way around? Did they kind
of cross at the same time or.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
It's a very common chord progression.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
They're very very similar songs.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah right, very good And thank you for all your
phone calls and text on intervention. After two o'clock, we
are going to talk about gap years. This is a
growing trend around the world US, UK and here in
New Zealand. Doll children once they leave school to go
on a gap year.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, and a lot of parents out there will be
in my situation. Year thirteen is ending this week. They've
got their exams to do. But my son had his
last day of school ever on Tuesday and now he's
heading off into the world. So what do they do?
Go to tertiary education? But what if they haven't got
anything decided? They're just doing a pointless, pointless course that'll

(39:11):
cost them a lot of money.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
Do they take a gap year?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Are you backing him to take a gap year? I
mean clearly you're saying, Charlie, whatever you want to do,
you do. But are you excited that he's eyeing up
doing a gap year rather than going to TERUSI I think.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
A gap year is a good idea.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
I think it's quite good as long as you do
something in the gap year. You can't do nothing. You
can't just sit around on the couch and play video games.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
You've got to get a job. See what it's like
to work.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Full time in a minimum wage is a really good
way to focus your attention in life.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
But I think, yeah, I think a gap year is
a good thing.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
You've had so many years of school, thirteen years of
being part of an institution in school, it's not bad
to just get a little taste of the real world.
I mean different for different kids, but for some, I
think it's a great one.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. You can also tax through on nine to
nine to two. If you're a parent, you're encouraging your
child to take a gap year. Do you feel a
bit concerned about it? Did you take a gap year?
Love to hear from you. It is three minutes to do.
Good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Zebby.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Welcome back into the show. Very good to have your company.
As always, you're listening to matt and Tyler with you
until four p m. Gap years.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Yeah, So a lot of parents will be in my
position today, and a lot of parents have been in
the past, and a lot of parents will be there
in the future. And we've all been in this position.
Finishing year thirteen or seventh form as well as in
my time. Yep, yeah, my son finished on Tuesday. He's
not sure what he wants to do in terms of
his tertiary education, so he's chosen to take a gap year.

(40:50):
And I support him, although I wouldn't support him if
he sat around and did absolutely nothing for a year
and just played video games. But I think there's there's
something really, really really good and just getting a sniff
of what the real world's like.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Does he know what he wants to do for the
gap year at this stage.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
I think he's he wants to get a job. He
wants to get a job. And I've got a nephew
that went worked in a supermarket for a year for
his gap year, and he worked in the fruit and
prodiscce the area. He thought it was good, he met some
good people, but it really really really motivated him to
go off and get the degree he eventually got.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, did you do it?

Speaker 8 (41:26):
Keep you? No?

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Stupidly, I left universe.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
I left high school, went straight to university and did
a degree that I've never used of.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
What was the degree?

Speaker 6 (41:37):
I did a degree in anthropology.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
And philosophy, Oh and smart, Yeah, but it was I
didn't even unwrap it. I didn't turn up to the graduation.
I didn't even up wrap it until last year, where
I unwrapped it and put it in a frame and
put it on the wall as a joke, like making
the din in my house look like it was a clinic.
Because you know, you can't make money out of anthropology. Well,
some people can, but basically it has to be in

(42:00):
a life, in an education. If you're going to do that,
you're quite a using it human behavior and then philosophy.
You know, yeah, use that on a regular basis, don't you.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
Yeah, But I mean, was it worth the student alone?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I had to probably not. I mean I had a
lot of friends who went straight from school to university,
didn't know what they wanted to do, so just did
a b comb. That was kind of what you did
if you didn't know what you're going to do. My
older brother as well, actually did a b comb. Never
used it.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
No, there are people that I know people that had
did a b comb and then didn't use it, and
then it's helped them get into the business world many
years later when their chosen career that they went for
fell through.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
Yeah, So I don't know. I don't go running down
the becomb. It's a great degree.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Hey I'm not running it down, but for my friends
and I love them to love them to death. But
they never really got into you're.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Saying, if you haven't decided what you're going to do
in life, you just just do a.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
B com No, no, no, go go do a gap yere,
don't just don't just sign up to a becomb. I
think they signed up to becom because it was the
easiest paper to do at the time. And hey, don't
get me wrong, they love the Scarfee days that was
down in the University of a Tago. They absolutely adored
that year.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
But then a students know how to party. That's fine,
yea being a person that we into a targer university
as well.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
But was it worth twenty thousand dollars on this student loan?

Speaker 5 (43:17):
I don't know it was.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
But gap, yeah I did. I left school at sixteen
and the reason I left at sixteen is because I
didn't think I was going to get much from my
seventh form year at the time of the year thirteen now,
and I didn't really know what I wanted to do.
But Mum said to me, you've got to do something,
whether you go into polytech or tertiary education, or I
go and get a job. And I ended up working

(43:41):
out Mount Upei. Oh yeah, as a lifting.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Oh I see, that's the dream, going working on.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
A ski field.

Speaker 12 (43:46):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I was seventeen, couldn't get into the bars, which was problematic.
Managed to get into a couple. Oh really yeah yeah,
but that was a great six years my life.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Yeah, six years, six.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Months, six months, six months. Yeah, it's a long since.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
It's a long six months at the at the lift
as a long shift.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
But our gap gap is a good thing. Have you
been on a gat year? I think they are.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
I think I think if you don't know what you do,
what you're going to do, and you do plan to
do some tertiary education, then that's a fantastic thing to do.
Do a gap year, get some space, but you've got
to make it a gap year.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
What about traveling?

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Yeah, well, I mean that age. Yeah, well, I mean
I know a lot of people that have done that
and it's been very positive. But I'd prefer if my
son didn't just go overseas immediately right now. I quite
like going help with them.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, good call, I'd miss him. Oh, eight one hundred
eighty eight. If you've done a gap year yourself, love
to hear from you. If you're in that situation now
where your child is about to leave school, are they
thinking about a gap year? Are you encouraging them to
do that? I've got to say, the stats out from
the UK over the past ten years, the students going
for a gap year has increased fifty percent, from twenty

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thousand students to thirty thousand students. That's a big increase.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Yeah, and I think a lot of that is people
are asking if university is going to deliver what they
need in the future, whether their degree will be anything
for them in years. Yeah, that's that's a question you're
looking at. I mean, what can't you what can't you
learn on YouTube?

Speaker 8 (45:12):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Exactly nine two ninety two is the text number. It's
eleven past two.

Speaker 29 (45:17):
Good afternoon, your new home of afternoon Talk and Ethen
Tyler Adams Afternoon call.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be very.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Good afternoon, fourteen past two. What are the benefits of
a gap year, particularly for children leaving high school? With Nita?
How are you hi?

Speaker 30 (45:36):
Good in you?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Very nice to chat with you. So what's your story.
Did you take a gap year?

Speaker 31 (45:41):
No, I didn't, and I went into hairdressing school right
after school and I took the career beyond that. So
that's great. But my brother took a gap year and
he just played golf for that whole year and he's
actually a successful golf player and he works for Titless
titleist in South Africa. So yeah, I say, there is

(46:05):
quite a it's quite a good thing I think to
do a gap year some times, because then you really
want to suss out what you want to do in
your life, because I always say an eighteen year old
can't always decide what a forty year old wants to do.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Yeah, that's a very good, very very good point. Now,
when so when you say your brother took a gap
year and just played golf, was he playing the golf
with a plan in mind? Or was he just playing
golf for fun with his mates and it turned out
that he was very good?

Speaker 31 (46:30):
No, he actually loved golf since school and then he
just decided, oh maybe I should just play golf for it. Yeah,
and it became his job and he yeah, it just
you probably had a mind or a plan with it,
because he did study through the PGA, and he did
do a marketing degree as well, and I think that's
why he ended up with Titlis. So that's awesome for him.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
Yeah, that's working.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
That's the dream, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Well it sounds like he was following a passion. So
a gap year before you lock yourself in, as you say,
with what you're going to do right through your forties,
and you've got a passion, that's that's the time to
follow your passion. When you've got all that energy and
to be honest, not a lot of responsibility, when you're
in your late teens early twenties, that's the time to
really lean into a passion.

Speaker 31 (47:18):
And I think he's you like to say, he's just
living the dream.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
Congratulations to her.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
What's his handicap?

Speaker 31 (47:25):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 32 (47:26):
Mine is something.

Speaker 31 (47:26):
I'm not sure. I don't even know if he's got
a handicap anymore.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Yeah, do you play a better golf yourself?

Speaker 12 (47:32):
Oh?

Speaker 31 (47:32):
I tried, but then I got angry on the course
and I was on the on the yeah, the golf course,
and then he said, no, you go off now, and
then I need to play golf.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Anger is a part of golf. With don't let anyone
tell you otherwise. The most frustrating sport on the world
of fear. Not very good luck. I am Brett. How
are you mate?

Speaker 33 (47:50):
I'm good.

Speaker 20 (47:50):
How are you?

Speaker 28 (47:51):
Yeah good, I'm good normal.

Speaker 33 (47:54):
And four or more four golf gap years. I've got
two kids. My daughter your golf years.

Speaker 11 (47:59):
I wish I could.

Speaker 34 (48:02):
So.

Speaker 33 (48:02):
My daughter left school knew what she wanted to do.
She knew whether that from fourteen, went straight out and
got a degree and got a career. My son, on
the other hand, who was very, very clever, you know,
he was clever at sciences and maths and things like that,
and there was all this pressure, you need to go
and do engineering, go and do engineering, and so we
tried to convince him to take a gap year, and
he wouldn't. And he went and did engineering and he

(48:24):
went from straight a's and year one to straight season
year halfway through year through it too, and we said
to him, mate, just give it up, go and take
a gap and go and do something else. So he
went overseas and while he is away, he figured out
what he actually.

Speaker 11 (48:40):
Wanted to do.

Speaker 33 (48:41):
And he's actually in China when he figured out what
he wanted to do, came back to the four year degree,
got a first class honors degree and he's laughing. But
there was so much pressure on in the high schools,
and there was so much pressure put on him, you know,
because you know, he was doing unie papers when he
was still at high school and calculus and things like that,
you need to go and do this, and they put

(49:02):
so much pressure on And as the last caller said,
how can an eighteen year old know what they want
to be and doing? And when they're forty and so,
I honestly, and anyone says to me, what do you think,
I said, it's one year.

Speaker 10 (49:13):
Out of their life.

Speaker 33 (49:15):
You know, they're working for the rest of their lives.
Take some time off to consider what you actually want
to do. Because you're a long time working you can
be a hell of a long time unhappy too.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
So, Brett, did your son have an interest in engineering?
Was that just because he was a smart kid that
seemed like the logical thing to do at the time
when he chose to do it.

Speaker 33 (49:32):
Yep, because he's a maths and science and that sort
of thing, you should be an engineer. And it was
really funny. So when overseas with a friend and wandered
into a museum and Gwang and Shanghai. That was about
how she Shanghai has been planned in the city. I've
actually been to her. It's quite amazing. It's about three
stories this building. And he walked out, came home and said,
I'm going to be a town planner.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Wow, I love that.

Speaker 33 (49:55):
And as I say, you know, first class honors degree,
so you know, pretty clever. But he was just wasted
what he is doing and was.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
And is enjoyed being a town planner.

Speaker 33 (50:06):
He loves it.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
See that's a brilliant story. So if he just battled
on and the engineering that he didn't like, thenpy Man,
he would never have found that true passion.

Speaker 10 (50:16):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 33 (50:18):
So you know, I just when people say, oh, you've
got to go and get a degree, I just say
to forget about it. It's you know, I got a
degree when I was in the mid thirties, so it
didn't stop me. And I just think kids got to
find find their place in the world.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Yeah, and I think a lot of for a lot
of kids, going into tertiary education is kind of like
not making a decision in a way because you're not
ready to leave the institutions. You've been at school, it's
quite terrifying to just go out into the world, so
you might end up getting a degree essentially, so you're
staying at school and keeping those guardrails going. When I
believe that at that young age, that's when you do

(50:54):
the take the risks and follow the dreams.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Because it does get harder, doesn't it. The older that
you get and you get more roots, you get tied down, well,
tied down is not the right word, but you know,
you get responsibilities in life and then you start maybe
having a family of children gets harder and harder and
harder to go and do those things. And when you're
young and you can absorb all that stuff, that's the time.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Eh yeah, I miss You're me Tyler and you follow
your dream of moving up to news talks.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Edby and here you are, look at you now, Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty gap years? Are you
encouraging your children to take a bit of a gap
year before they may go into a trade or two?
Re education? And did you do one yourself? Love to
hear from you. Nine two ninety two was the text number.
It's twenty past two.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Call oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on News Talks,
edby Good Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
It's twenty two past two and we're talking about gap years.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
Yeah, that's right, because your thirteen. It's the finishing school
this week. Mine finished on Tuesday. Got exams to do,
but he's chosen to take a gap year. Getting a
lot of support from gap years on the on the phones. Yeah,
and you've got a text here from Lucy. I went
for a gap year, sort of joined the Navy until
I decided well to do twenty seven years later, I

(52:10):
left the Navy in our work and search and rescue.
So the gap year became an exciting, adventurous life for Lucy.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Fantastic Thor. How are you doing?

Speaker 10 (52:20):
Hey, guys, have things good?

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Love the name Thor.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
I just kind of want to put my two cents
in hand to say I didn't take a gap year
straight out of high school. But I went to university
and finished my degree, and you know, got a job
at an office and sort of realized that wasn't for me,
and then I got my trade, so after three years,
became a registered electrician. But you know, we're getting a

(52:49):
little bit older, So people us me to talk to
the young kids, saying, you know, can we give them
some advice? But I'm leaning heavily towards just taking a
gap year, you know, figuring it out, maybe go to
hospitality work and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
Yeah, good on you, that's.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Got I like the idea of an electrician beer being
the god of thunder though that kind of works a
going of funder him later.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
And was that was that a hard thing to convince
your appearance that that's the best thing for you? Did
you get any pressure to stick with, you know, the
idea of the trade or were they quite encouraging that.
And it's actually a good thing to go and do
a gap here and just figure out the world a bit.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 34 (53:29):
I feel like, you know, an eighteen year old doesn't
necessarily know exactly what he wants to do.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
So year old doesn't know anything.

Speaker 34 (53:39):
Yeah, yeah, I generally didn't, but yeah, yeah, but I
just think give some real world experience under your belt
and you know, nine to five with whatever it may
be in an office or an hospitality or it just
it just opens up your horizons and moving out and
paying bills and you know that gapia doesn't necessarily mean

(54:02):
traveling as such, but you know, just taking on the
real world straight out of school.

Speaker 11 (54:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
You may follow your paw and find what that is,
or you might find something incredible, but you might also
find exactly what you don't want to do. And you know,
for example, I was talking before about a nephew that
was in a supermarket. He discovered that he didn't want
to work in the fruit and produce section of a
supermarket and he wanted to get back, and when he
went to university he was very, very very focused on

(54:29):
creating the career wanted. So there is something in seeing
the real world as well for exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely great stuff. Thanks very much for giving
us a buzz. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call, Sandy. How are you?

Speaker 35 (54:43):
Oh, I'm just thank you good my experience as a
mother at our eighteen year old had been accepted for
a course in the July of the following year, so
he left school seventh form and was going to start
the course in the July, but he wanted to put
it off until the following January. He wanted to take

(55:05):
a gap year. He was in the end see a
guinea pig year they called it, and the very first
year lots of work, lots of study, all that sort
of thing. So when he said to me that he
wanted to put the course off until the following year,
I said to him, why don't you just get on
and do it. And he said, Mum, he said, I

(55:27):
want a year off, and I said.

Speaker 24 (55:29):
Fair comment.

Speaker 35 (55:30):
What can you say?

Speaker 24 (55:31):
You know?

Speaker 35 (55:32):
So he got a job doing the helping out with
the grape season, and when he finished that, he didn't
have a job. So that wasn't about the April and
I was coming home from work and he was sitting
on the computer and he had enough money saved for
his petrol and his takeaways, and Mum and Dad would

(55:53):
look after him, of.

Speaker 15 (55:54):
Course, and so got a bit tired of this.

Speaker 35 (55:57):
So in the end I said to him, and we
said to him, okay, we need some board from you.
It's going to cost us to keep you. You're in
the house all day doing nothing. So well, he was
off that year. Down to the supermarket.

Speaker 24 (56:11):
He found a job.

Speaker 35 (56:13):
And he worked as that off for the rest of
the year. Got so sich of getting four or five
hundred dollars a week when he knew how much he
would be getting going forward when he qualified for the
job that he was going to study in, and so
it's fantastic. I'd tell people go for it. However, there

(56:35):
is the other side, and people said to me, oh,
what say he gets you to that supermarket job and
he doesn't want to look for anything else. But that
year that made him even more determined. So it wasn't
what he wanted.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Because that's the concern, isn't it, Sandy, that you could
end up on a gap decade and then you're looking
back and going I never did that, and now I
can't because I've got too many responsibilities.

Speaker 35 (57:00):
What we did with that board money, we said to
him and we presented it with him before he went
off to do his study, this nice check and he said,
what's this four? And I said that the money that
you gave us for board, we didn't need it, but
you needed to be made responsible for yeah, for living
in the house here it is. So we actually put

(57:21):
it away and bonus formed for him and gave that
to him before he went away.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
What a great mum you are, Andy, Yeah, great, looks
like you crack the code there.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
So we're going to continue the gap year chat afterwards.
I'm a big supporter of it. My son's doing it.
But after in just a few minutes, I've got a
question for you. What are the top five Halloween costumes
in the United States this year?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Join me to have a crack at it. I'll give
it a top top two. Okay, oh this year eighty.
I'll have a thing about it, and I'll come back
to you very shortly.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
I feel the list here.

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Speaker 3 (59:11):
Thank you very much, Rayleian. Just before we get to
the discussion about gap years, you mentioned do we tease
before the headlines?

Speaker 6 (59:18):
I certainly did.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
It was the top five.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
Halloween costumes in America this year, and I.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Said I was going to have a crack. I'll just
have a crack at one in the top five. I
reckon must be this is in America, raygun the Australian Breakdancer.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
Surely that should.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Be in there.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Yeah, it should be in there, And I'm sure it
is in Australia. And it was a horror show what
she performed at the Olympics. But it isn't in the
top five in the United States.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
All right, Well, Craig reckons. He knows Craig I reckon
number one.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
Well in America, maybe in New Zealand, although she does
have a high profile in the United States. You got
another guess.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
What are the latest cultural trends over the last year? Oh, Beetlejuice.
Beetle Juice movie just came out.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
You would think that, all right, Okay, no, no, no, no,
no no. According to stats taken from Google searchers and
sales figures, this week in the United States, the number
five the number five Halloween costumes most in America.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah, she's not scary, though I.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
Find her a little bit scary.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Jessica Rabbit. That's an old one from She's coming back.
Well for the kids, that's an adult Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
Well, I mean this isn't for kids.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
I mean this is everyone, so a lot of people,
and you know, Halloween parties are huge in the United States,
so people go there as a sexy Jessica Rabbit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Fair enough.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Inflatable check it isn't inflatable.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Checken is back.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Inflatable. Chicken's doing very well. I didn't pick that one
about time time. I don't know what's happening over there
that inflatable chickens are so popular. And then number two
and number one Wolverine and Deadpool.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Oh nice, because that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Movie was the hugest movie this year, wasn't it. Wolverine
and dead Pool, Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jack to the Ego,
Tator Swift, Jessica Rabbit inflatable check and Wolverine and dead
Pull at number one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Love it all right, We're going to have Halloween chatting
about half an hour's time. But we have been talking
about gap years, a big increase in the UK and
the US and the number of students leaving school and
then going on the gap year fifty percent increase over
the past ten years in the UK, They're huge, Vaughan,
did you take a gap year yourself?

Speaker 13 (01:01:32):
No, no, but we're backing a versity in my forties
and my great point which went up twenty points twenty years.

Speaker 11 (01:01:40):
It was great, but.

Speaker 13 (01:01:42):
It was a really niceable note the first year students,
they were extremely naive, very mature. I was serving in
one class one day at the back and with some
of the third years that I was startying what we're
doing a first year class and serdly the whole right, boys,
in front of it just turned to the right. What's

(01:02:02):
going on? So look over and the girl below them
was a look shoving for a new bikini. So there
was also quite nice. But when you're when you're in class,
how many the kids are actally on Facebook. They weren't
really in the class, so they were very naive. The
guy as I started with that when the early twenties

(01:02:22):
three twenty fourths off had been out working. They were
really sharp. They liked way up. There's the Friday night.
They were not scared to ask questions. They were they
knew the way of the world. I didn't have to
hold each other's hands. Then it's quite nice. I live
in wealth without Lincoln. But at the start of the year,

(01:02:43):
when all the guns ride, you see all these kids
in the through or fourth breasts like you were dead school.
As you said earlier on Tyre, you know, it's almost
like an extension of school. Too scared to leave, and
they all walk around to the supermarket and all this,
and they're all walking in a line as a group
about half a two the year, having to become individuals.
And I think that's the big thing you get out
of a gap years. You learned how to be about

(01:03:04):
you and not necessarily about the crowd.

Speaker 11 (01:03:07):
And you like.

Speaker 13 (01:03:08):
Some of the callers, I said, you look at what
makes you teck and what you really want to do.
A number of people I know that were at union
with me that started off on one course and swapched another.
My list daughter would be a classic. She started doing
a s. Sgreend and then switched a Commis degree towards
an end And what's been great because she's now a
rural banker. So well, yeah, it's funny your own way

(01:03:30):
in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
So well, it's absolutely true Vaughan that when you're that age,
you've been in school for thirteen years and there's rules.
You've got to go to assemblies, you've got to be
there in time, you know when your classes are. And
then you go to university and it's much freer. You
have to motivate yourself. And I was an absolute idiot
when I started going to the university. And I'd listen
to the adult students in class and they seem to

(01:03:51):
be so onto it that asked the right questions.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
I wouldn't even know what was going on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
I remember I went flatting really early on, and me
and my mate were trying to make pasta spagetti bolog knaze,
and we put the pastor and roasted it, and we
was trying to work out why why it was an
orbandie like it was when Mum made it. And so
that person trying to decide what they're going to do
for the rest of their life, let alone concentrate, and
the lecture was never ever going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
That's nice one, Vaughan. Thank you very much mate. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call quick text of the break yaday, guys. I'm twenty one.
Love listening to your show. I left school at sixteen.
I'm now a national business development manager for a very
successful company. Well, I didn't go to university. I believe
that if you have the motivation to go somewhere, a

(01:04:37):
bit of paper doesn't always require you to get there.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Look at that twenty one a national business development manager.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
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Wonder can keep those techs coming through on nine two
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Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
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Speaker 8 (01:04:52):
Matteeth.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty Matteth and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
They'd be very good. Afternoon twenty to three, we're.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
Talking about gap years, Dylan, you're a gap year doubter.

Speaker 36 (01:05:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't really a good idea
if you're not necessarily too sure what you want to do.
But I don't. I don't really think that going straight
into university is necessarily the best idea, just because most
people end up just wasting a whole bunch of money.

(01:05:28):
They go to study what they think they want to do,
and then chances are they don't actually end up wanting
to do that by the end of it, and they
end up with a big debt. I ended up just
going straight in to work straight after well during school,
but I ended up finding while I was working, finding

(01:05:50):
that I wanted to be an electrician, so I studied
at the same time. But yeah, yeah, I don't. I
don't necessarily think that it's the greatest idea to go
traveling or anything like that. I think it's better just
to go straight in to work. The other issue with
I'm straight into studying is you don't have any experience,

(01:06:12):
so you come out with a degree. But most workplaces
want some kind of experience, so it's hard to find
a job even when you have a degree because you
don't have any any work experience.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
But yeah, so Dylan, you you went in and eventually
win a study become an electrician, and you're still an
electrician and you're enjoying that. That's that's the career that
you're glad you ended up in that spot.

Speaker 11 (01:06:37):
Christ delplp. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
And how old are you now?

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
Dylan?

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Still a young man, so you're right, you're right now?
And where are you at in your electrical trader? You qualified? Now?
Oh what time did you start that? So you left
school bang on seventeen and got straight into it? And
is it four years?

Speaker 11 (01:06:58):
I take it?

Speaker 14 (01:06:59):
Ye?

Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
Over three years.

Speaker 36 (01:07:02):
I actually did the course. It was my first three
year and banged off a year and a half of
your apprenticeship.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Tell you what, Dylan, you're in a good spot. You're
twenty one, You're a fully qualified electrician.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
I've got a question for you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
Are electricians the smartest trades?

Speaker 36 (01:07:22):
I wouldn't say yes. I wouldn't say no.

Speaker 26 (01:07:26):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Would you say who's the dumbert trades?

Speaker 12 (01:07:30):
Uh?

Speaker 36 (01:07:31):
Probably the later?

Speaker 26 (01:07:32):
Theah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Yeah, yeah, do you get on with the jib stoppers.

Speaker 36 (01:07:37):
When they don't cover your jib when you when they
don't cover your box.

Speaker 14 (01:07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:07:42):
Other than that, yep, yep.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
What about? What do you say to allegations that electricians
are elitists? They come and they leave all their bits around.
There's there's wires left everywhere, and they just rock out
of there.

Speaker 36 (01:07:53):
I think that used to be a big thing back
in the day, but I think since everybody gives so
much shit to electricians, that doesn't necessarily happen anymore. Usually
websites are putty onto it too. They Yeah, see wire
laying around, go straight up to the until mess up exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Dylan, you're a good man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
Thanks so much for you called Dylan.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Have we got time for carry? Yes? We do. Hey
you Carrie, Hi, how are you good? What's your take
on the gap year?

Speaker 20 (01:08:24):
I think it is absolutely great because not all children
at that age know what they want to do. So
my own personal sensory, I have two children currently at university.
Both of them have gone straight from school to university.
They have had sort of, in some ways a little

(01:08:45):
bit of an interesting journey, especially my youngest, who gipped
the year then in her final year thought she was
smart and didn't quite get enough for nca Level three,
at which point I then sat her down and had
a conversation with her and laid out her options of

(01:09:05):
where to now. She made the decision to go and
do the CUP course, which is the Certificate University Preperdness course.
It was a six month course. She went and did that,
walked away with that from it with a bursary because
your agrees were good enough. She've got a bursary and
then she's gone straight into her degree. But I did

(01:09:28):
also suggest her a bit of a gap. Yes, you know,
go back to school, do six months at school, get
the rest of the NCAA credits, and then been six
months working, living life, et cetera. But she wanted to
do that, and she's at university now and absolutely excel
at this can He failed NCAA level three is getting a's,

(01:09:51):
B plus's those type marks doing fantastic, and so was
the oldest. So they it was the right choice for
the end. The oldest knew exactly what she wanted to do.
The youngest was for several years adamant what she wanted
to do. And going straight into university it's a different

(01:10:12):
environment to school, and I've seen my children absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Thrive fantastic And Kerry, I mean, as you mentioned they
your daughter or both daughters knew what they wanted to do.
Did that give you the confidence to say, you know
what you need to do and you go out there
and do it in an old back you Yes.

Speaker 20 (01:10:30):
And I was also very supportive, and more so with
the youngest because she was I did wonder if she
needed a bit more time, and I was actually trying
to be very supportive of her. But if you wanted
to take gap year, that's fine, if you want to
do that. They had a cousin who did two year,
yet gap year, wasn't one hundred percent sure what she

(01:10:50):
wanted to do. She took a two year gap year
and then went and studied down in Wellington. Yep, my
oldest daughter, her best friend from school who wanted to
be a teacher, has taken gap year, which ends up
into a two year gap year out there living life.

(01:11:12):
Has gone and worked in Austronia for a bit as
a manny and is absolutely just loving living life right now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
You're great, Carrie. I love those stories. Did you take
a game yourself? Sorry?

Speaker 20 (01:11:24):
Sorry to jump down I never got I never went
to university. I went straight to work before at the
age seventeen, I was working. You know, I think a
lot of it depends on the child, it really does.
I mean, my best friend right now is battling with
her boy who's just finishing up year twelve, hasn't got

(01:11:44):
the grades really that he needs be for even year thirteen,
and he's kind of going, I have no idea what
I want to do. He has absolutely no idea what
he wants to do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
It's a lot of pressure for kids who don't know
what they want to do after leaving school. And you
know clearly that pressure is still there, Carrie, for kids
that think they have to go to university or dutiury.
But so glad to hear your daughters knew what they
wanted to do, took that gap here and now they're thriving.
Thank you so much. Uh, Nick, how you doing.

Speaker 12 (01:12:16):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
You go very good?

Speaker 15 (01:12:17):
On this Thursday, mate, I'm just popping over to Cambridge
from Hamilton for my vocal lessons, so it was an
interesting topic. I thought i'd give you guys a call
the vocal.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
You're a singer, Nick, Oh, I'm I'm in.

Speaker 15 (01:12:31):
A local band in Hamilton, and it's sometimes I think
it's worth seven of your vocal lessons just to get
myself on on track, keep myself sharp.

Speaker 6 (01:12:40):
So you're playing originals or covers? Nick?

Speaker 15 (01:12:43):
Oh, it's mainly covers. Yeah, I've written a few originals,
but they're.

Speaker 6 (01:12:47):
A bit what's the what's the band's name.

Speaker 15 (01:12:49):
Nick, it's called the Unfold Scene.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Good name? And what's music? What sort of covers do
you do?

Speaker 10 (01:12:57):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:12:57):
Look at everything?

Speaker 25 (01:12:58):
So a little bit.

Speaker 15 (01:12:59):
It's even teeth rock. I don't really like the eighties
glam rock stuff. I'm throw more of a kid Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
A bit of punk or yeah, what about a bit
a c cr.

Speaker 15 (01:13:12):
Oh's funny you say that, because I've actually just been
learning the Courts of Green River today, which is a
great trait.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
To John Foggery. That's a hard person to replicate in
terms of a singing voice.

Speaker 15 (01:13:23):
It is, so you don't try and replicating. You've just
got to make sure if you're in the same range
and and just do.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
Your thing is not easy to do either.

Speaker 25 (01:13:33):
No holiday in Gamebo.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
In California, OBErs great songs. What sort of places do
you play? We've gone off topic here because it's interested
about your bear.

Speaker 15 (01:13:47):
Yeah, so playing it's a local Irish pub Hamilton called
Biddy Mulligan. So we played here and and we're actually
playing Saturday night, playing at a bar called the Patron's Bar,
which is t You got a really neck caage set
up as well for a little bit, a little bit
moments with crowds and people not for.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
Well, well, get get along and support get along.

Speaker 15 (01:14:15):
Yeah, he look, I was just I was interested in
the topic. So so I'm actually geo technical engineer sort
of work in Hamilton. I'm I'm actually doing a post
grade the Plumber of psychology at the moment too, because
I've sort of become a little bit more interested in
people in behavior other than than things, and which is
sort of an interesting concept. But but I I sort

(01:14:37):
of grew So my old group and teams are in
the Coromandel where and my old man was actually needs
ex French fore allegiant combat soldier and he wasn't a
key we so I grew up pretty tough and he
was pretty pretty rugged, to be honest, and so I
had a bit of a hat. I got knocked around
a bit, and there was other things sort of browing

(01:14:58):
up in the eighties and teams. It was a hard town,
you know as well. I was very academic, but I
just had a of conduct, sort of antisocial.

Speaker 10 (01:15:09):
Stuff going on.

Speaker 15 (01:15:10):
By the time I've passed my book was system certificate
at the time, quite happily, but I, you know, I
was just scrapping all the time, and I ended up
having to leave school.

Speaker 12 (01:15:20):
I just had to.

Speaker 15 (01:15:23):
So left for a couple of years, went back and
then did sort of did sixth and sixth form and
seven form as well. I didn't sort of really get
Universe entrance. It's just on the cusp of of get
the whole yea thing, and I sort of quite I've
sort of forgot what happened, but I ended up I
was sort of had quite a few emotional issues. I

(01:15:45):
got best and I was sort of working in the
local meatworks and one of the young guys the sort
of said to me, well, you're a pretty smart guy
the way you talk and so forth, and you had
to hit yourself off the yearni. I was actually on
probation at the time, and I sort of for you know,
some silly stuff, and as soon as my probation finished,
I just picked my bags up and just said said

(01:16:08):
sorry to mum. Leaving Bloody went straight off to Hamilton
and enrolled at ko Yeunie and I basically had to
plead with the the the square of study because I
didn't actually you know, the qualitation go to union at
that time. And you know, you've just just bleed my
heart and said, look, you've got to You've got to
let me in, you know, I just and I ended

(01:16:30):
up rolling and I sort of got accepted and enrolled
in a faculty of their sciences. So I started a
scientists and engineering. But you know, at that time I
was sort of that twenty two twenty three. Then I
sort of remember my first, my very first lecture in
engineering one O one, and I just felt this relief,
this weight lifted off my shoulders that this is where

(01:16:53):
I'm supposed.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
To be, so so that that that gap was the
perfect for you and you found it out. Sorry, we've
just got got to move on because we're running out
of time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
How much life you've lived there.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
But before you go, nick name of the band and
when you're play where you're playing on Saturday.

Speaker 15 (01:17:06):
Oh so it's the Unforeseene. It's called spelt sc and
e we're playing at the Patrons by Hamilton at seven
thirty on Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Brill, good long, love it, Thank you very much. Nick.
It is seven minutes to three.

Speaker 8 (01:17:20):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four you talk SEDB.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
It's five to three. Man, it's very exciting because the
dog go at the baseball. Like just before you give
an update, we'll get heavy and get a hemmy, we've
got about sixty seconds, my friend.

Speaker 11 (01:17:42):
Here, buddy, Yeah, on fortually, I didn't do a JAP year,
But I didn't think I did a DIEP year because
I I went to work at fourteen and I didn't
go to school yep, for a whole year. And I
worked because my parents both worked. But we had I

(01:18:03):
had five brothers and two sisters and a grandfather staying
their name. Yeah, and I watched them straight back.

Speaker 10 (01:18:08):
In the day.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Well, yeah, you did what you needed to do that
at that point. Here me, but your daughters asked to
do a gap year. Are you happy for.

Speaker 25 (01:18:16):
Her to do that?

Speaker 11 (01:18:18):
And then when growing up she I have my daughter
and she did she did good that at school. Then
she asked me, well, gap year and most yeap, what
you going to do? And she said, oh I name
you said, you're not going to stay home. I'll get
you a job with me because I work at Frontier.

Speaker 12 (01:18:37):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
And she's going to do that.

Speaker 11 (01:18:40):
Oh, she did that for the whole year. The first
place she got. She goes, hey, look.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
At this, and she was shot how much money she had?
Good times, hear me. I wish we had longer, but
the news is hot on our tale. After three o'clock
we're going to be talking Halloween.

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
I'm excited. I love Halloween. Do you do you celebrate it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heath and Tyler
Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Good afternoon to you. Saw a lot of excitement in
the studio over the past fifteen minutes, and it is
related to baseball.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
How dare you, Tyler? I'm watching, I'm watching the text machine,
the phones and you, and I'm very concentrated on the
show and I don't have any interest in this incredibly
exciting game happening at Yankee Stadium, Dodgers. My beloved Dodgers
in the World Series, up three to one. They were
down up three to one in the series, they were
down five nothing in the game, and then an incredible

(01:19:40):
rally on an era by Cole. I'm going to say
the picture didn't run over Anyoay, let's not get into
the technical details. Yeah, yeah, that is an incredibly exciting game.
It's now five to five. And look, if the Dodgers
win this game, we're at the where at the top
of the fifth Now, if the Dodgers win this game,
they win the World Series.

Speaker 6 (01:19:56):
It couldn't be more exciting right now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
But you were saying before you hope they lose, because
then they've got a away day. Then they've got the
final game back in LA and that's a Saturday, and
you can be on your count.

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
Well, when I said I hope they lose, I don't
want to say that I would love them to win now,
but I was trying to It was sort of happiness insurance.
I was saying, if they don't win today, at least
I'll get to watch it live because I won't be
on the radio. I'll be at home with a bunch
of mates watching it on the couch and it'll be
a win in LA.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
Hopefully.

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
I sound like I'm jinxing the whole thing if you
can jinx it from ten thousand kilometers away, bit, but
it would be It would be quite something to win
the World Sorry Series at home in La because the
Dodgers are beloved in La. Their rival the Lakers for
the most important team in La.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
I love happiness insurance. Great phrase. Now, just before we
get on too Halloween, I just wanted to read out
the sticks that came through on the Gap year Kidday. Guys.
I had to pull over, as this is a brilliant topic,
gap year. I have a seventeen year old son. This
is his last year and we were all set for
him to go to UNI next year. But now have
asked us parents to have a gap year. He asked

(01:20:57):
with such motivation that I'm so proud of them. He said,
I want to find my way in this world, as
I don't know what I want to do yet. It
was always set that his past passion was flying, so
aviation messy was set. Now he wants to see what
else is out there for him, so we said, yes,
he can have a gap year. Love listening to you guys,
what a great tech sir.

Speaker 30 (01:21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
Wow. So if your kid comes to you and passionately
says that with such reason and conviction that they want
to have a gap year for those reasons, then.

Speaker 6 (01:21:24):
You would be proud, wouldn't you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
Yeah, because they know what they're doing. That's wise beyond
your years. So my son's on the same thing. He
said he wants to have a gap year this year
because he's not sure what to do. He was on
a path to quite a heavy career and heavy degree,
and he said, no, I need to take a gap
year because I'm not sure if I feel the same
way as I did when I was fifteen about what
I want to do with my life. And I felt

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proud as well. But if he sits on the couch,
then I won't feel proud. He's he's got to get
out there and use that gap year to follow a
passion or find out what the real world's like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Yeah, great discussion, But we are going to chat about
Halloween because it is Halloween today in New Zealand.

Speaker 37 (01:22:04):
How terrifying, how terrifying, spooky. Look at it out there
and it is, Well, it's one of those things. It's
one of those holidays that was a slow burn in
New Zealand culture, but now we have embraced it wholeheartedly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Most how Hallow holiday, Yeah, I'd love to have Hallow.
So they have Halloween off in America.

Speaker 6 (01:22:22):
No, it's a celebration as opposed to holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
But yeah, but I have been surprised by the wrap
it up take in New Zealanders getting behind Halloween. So
they get the costumes. It's a good day for Kmart
in the warehouse. They of Halloween because they sell a
lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
And look sharp and look sharp.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
But they get into the costumes and they put the candy,
the lollies out. Candy is a very American term, put
the lollies out for the kids. And I don't know
if I was a hallw Halloween grinch. I just didn't
really get into it. We don't have kids ourselves yet,
and I didn't really feel the vibe. And I thought
the trick of treaders were just a bunch of hooligans
on the street, you know, getting into trouble. I've changed
my mind, and tonight when I get home, we'll put

(01:23:00):
out a wee bowl of some sort of lolly candy
whatever it is. But I'm not going to answer the door.
They going to put a bowl on the door. Yeah,
and help yourself. That's what you don't enough.

Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
The first kids that turn up are can help themselves
to the entire bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
So be it so bad.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Like you're feeding a dog. Just put it out in
a bowl out the front.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Well, I'll scatter it on the driveway. Is but you
you do love Halloween.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
I love Halloween. I love the creativity about it. I
don't believe that that thing where people say it's just
an American tradition, it's not. I mean, it's it's comes
a long way from before America. It came to America,
it came to New Zealand. It's it's a fun thing.
Who kids where it comes from? Anyway, I like kids
dressing up. I like horror movies. When I was a kid,
I went out. I was nearly adopted back in Dunedin

(01:23:48):
of going out and trying to trickle treat back before
no one knew what the hell was going on. How
old were you I reckon?

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
I was eight.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
I went out onto the streets of Malorti Hill and
the first house we went to, knocked on the door,
got taken inside by a World War two veteran who
gave us a one hour lecture on begging. He didn't
understand what Halloween was at all. He just thought that
we were knocked on his door and threatened him, threatened
him with a trek if he didn't give us lolly
so threatened. Event he basically locked us in and lectured

(01:24:18):
us about what degenerates we were. But since then, my
kid's gone out trickle treating. I love the costumes. I've
gone to Halloween parties, but nowadays, primarily what I do
for Halloween is watch a movie. I watch a horror
film every year. We watched one last night, but well
we'll I'll force the kids to watch horror films with
me and and I think that's a great way to

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celebrate Halloween. It's good getting scared. I love getting scared.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
You're gonna have another watch party tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
Yeah, one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Do you know what you're gonna watch it?

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
Well, look, I've been thinking about that, and maybe at
the end of the hour, I was thinking about going
through some horror films of recent years, because he obviously
is the classics, and I'd love to hear people on
our eight hundred Hodechi.

Speaker 6 (01:24:59):
I did it for the first time there. It is funny.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
At some point I'd say, Waite hundred hodew eight, I'm going.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
To be happy with you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
Well, I believe that took my fourth week before I said.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
The cameras remember from my last job, welcome to the
first floor, mat Yeah, suggestions for horror movies and what
are the greatest horror movies of all time?

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
Like to talk about that? And how do you sell
about Halloween? And are you for it?

Speaker 5 (01:25:27):
Or are you again it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Are you going to put lollies out for the kids?

Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
Well, I kind of live in an interesting situation now
since my life changed. Back in the old house was
it was easy to do because you know, we're in
a villet, we're on a street and put it out.
I'm sort of living an apartment building situation now, so
it's a bit a bit more more difficult. But you know,
if you want kids to come to your door, you
put a few few fake cob webs on the door.

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You signal to people that people don't just go and
knock on every door. They knock on the doors that
signal that they want to be involved.

Speaker 8 (01:25:57):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Yeah? That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
Yeah, you put it as I feel like, I feel
like Auckland is way more into Halloween than any other city, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
I mean down in christ the kid's just knocked on
any door. I mean, if the gate was open, they'd
come on through and say, you know, we're polite about it,
Happy Halloween. And if we didn't have any canteen, we didn't,
And I felt like a real scrooge is that we
just didn't answer the door, close the curtain, send off
the lights, we're not home kids.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
Well, in Auckland, it's definitely a new signal that you
are involved. And some people go to full full lengths
on it. There's some streets in Auckland that are very,
very into it. There's there's a guy that's not too
far from me that will fire up a fake chainsaw
who takes the chain off and he'll chase kids out
of the front yard and they do a whole plava
around it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:39):
And it's fantastic. But you have to signal.

Speaker 5 (01:26:43):
You buy the fake cob web, you put a you
put a fake grave in there, you run a run
a graveyard in your front yard and people know that's
that's a house that's given out the lollies.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call of you into Halloween. Love to hear
from you. Nine two ninety two is the text number
of text is more your thing. Let's go Dodges, Let's
go touches. Quarter past three. News Talks there, b we're
talking about the right of Halloween, the New Zealan rise
of Allowen. John, You're torn on the issue.

Speaker 9 (01:27:16):
Absolutely, you f that a little bit inspired a cool
because I'm in the car listening to news talks. They'd
be on a Thursday afternoon and welcome to your new
time slot and brand fellas here the radio during Yeah,
I don't often hear the radio during the day, but
I have just quickly absolutely torn. I've got eleven and

(01:27:37):
twelve year old that the southnoon, very excited and about
the head out and dress up. Now I am torn
because essentially, as lots of other parents, we're talking about
a situation with Halloween where we're actually encouraging our kids
to wander around the street and that's strangers for candy,
and I just think that's Britain.

Speaker 15 (01:27:56):
You know, not that cool.

Speaker 9 (01:27:57):
But then the other side of it is they're really excited,
they dress up, they're out with their mates. But I
don't Just a bit of happened to do a bit
of a drive by in a particular suburban christ Church
that previous years has supported Halloween. There's lots of houses
dressed up, so you know that that's where people go.
I'm driven down the street that I'm will not name,

(01:28:19):
and I could only see two houses out of the
bundle of houses that look like they're ready could be
invaded by children.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Give us a suburb, John, give us a suburb.

Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
No, I won't.

Speaker 9 (01:28:32):
Well, it's it's near Cashmere, sort of off Columbo Street,
heading towards the hills.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Right, Okay, I know where you're right now. Yeah, I'm
not going to name it, but I know where we're
at yet.

Speaker 9 (01:28:41):
Yeah, and a particular street that has has been pretty supportive.
But as I said, quick drive by, I don't think
there was into it this year as they have been,
and that could be for a number of reasons. But
I guess the point I want to make is I'm
from a generation I suppose where Halloween was just not
a thing. Now I've got young kids that it is,
and I enjoy the fact that they want to hang

(01:29:03):
out with their kids, and they dress up and stuff.
What I don't like is we're about to send kids
one on the streets and packed pretty much begging for Kendy.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
What I would saying that, John, I don't know what
it's like in the rest of the country. And as
I said, I grew up in Dneda and when I
went out, it wasn't a thing, and you basically did
get dragon into houses and lectured about begging. But when
you say wandering around, I mean when my kids will little,
I'd wander around behind them. I'd be like three hundred
meters behind them, keeping an eye on them. Also, there

(01:29:33):
are streets and suburbs where it's encouraged, and you see
the houses that will have the decorations out to say
that you can go in there. So as long as
they make an effort. What I don't like as a
kid just turning up in no uniform at all, no
costume at all, and just begging. You've got to put
an effid in and they should be rewarded for the
amount of iff it they've put into the costume.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
But I mean, if it was any day of the year, generally.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
Speaking, going around knocking on doors begging for Lolly's is
not a good idea as long as it's drilled into
the kids that this is an October thirty first thing.

Speaker 6 (01:30:05):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
You've got to put the effort in it, and you
only go in of the houses that are marked that
they want to be.

Speaker 11 (01:30:11):
Yeah, they want to be.

Speaker 9 (01:30:12):
Involved time team because you have probably wanting tool. But
I'm going to head home now and potentially be laying
a sea with my kids going. I don't think where
they're going tonight is into it as they have been
in the past. Plus what you've said, we've got two
of us tonight, one of my my partner's going to
base yourself at a basically spot the very close and

(01:30:36):
I'm going to follow my younger one without here knowing
I'm following. They're very they're out with their mates and
don't come with us, so that it's like I'm torn
on the issue. I think it's cool that they dress up,
not so cool it's candy. I mean, if it was me,
we're our long driveway so no one comes to see,

(01:30:56):
I'd be giving them fruit, well.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
Brussels sprouts or something covered in chocolate.

Speaker 9 (01:31:05):
Anyway, we'll be interested to see what the rest of
your listeners happen on a subject. But this particular stub
over in christ you're just uf known, not sure, not
as they have been in the past, disappoint your kids.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
Thank you so much, John, thanks for you calling, thanks
for tuning. And it is an interesting thing though, the
kids going out on their own. I read this fantastic book.
He's got a new one out by Jonathan Hyde called
The Coddling of America, and his main point is that
the dangers out there aren't what they have been hyped
up to be. And we with the helicopter parenting, we're
actually not teaching kids to be able to do things

(01:31:38):
on their own. So sending your kids out with a
group of five or six or ten friends to actually
go door for doors actually teaching them competence.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
It's actually really, really really good for.

Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
Kids that generally these days are sitting on the on
the couch, you know, playing video games or on social media.
It's actually actually really really really good for them anytime
they can go out. And I used to send my
kids down to the dairy because I was I was
in my eyes. If they could go and do that,
they have to talk to an adult. They have to
find their way there and they have to go back.
But first time I ever did that, when they were

(01:32:10):
really little, I followed them down the street, hiding behind
trees and watching them.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
Well, I thought I got away with it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
When they got back they said, and I say, oh, wow,
you wento the deary for the first time. Your kids
are amazing. And then my oldest son said, what were
you doing behind the tree?

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
We saw you in the bushes.

Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
But I really wanted them to be independent and get
out there, and I think that is a positive part
of Halloween. You're going out, you're talking to adults, you're
knocking on doors, you're experiencing a little bit of stuff,
free range unless you've got a five o'clock shadow, a
deep voice, and you're just wearing a T shirt like
I've seen in the past.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
If you're over eighteen, stay at home.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
No trick or tree you and.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
No, absolutely no lollies for people without a costume. If
there's ten kids and want of them to have a costume,
give it to the nine and get out of here.
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number of coool it's twenty three past three.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZIB.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Twenty five past three.

Speaker 5 (01:33:14):
Welcome to show, Debra. I love Halloween. You don't?

Speaker 15 (01:33:18):
Hello?

Speaker 32 (01:33:19):
Is that Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
That was Matt's This is Tyler, Hello Debra, Hello, Hello.

Speaker 32 (01:33:24):
Hy Tyler. So I really don't like Halloween. I don't
like seeing children walking past. There's lots of children in
my suburb. I don't like seeing children walking past looking
ugly looking and having sort of gassy, sharp faces, ugly faces,
sharp clothing. I think it's really really awful. New Zealand

(01:33:45):
didn't need to receive it. I lived in America when
I was a child for a year and I did it.
I don't think it's great and it's it does there
are realms of negativity, which I'm not going to talk
about over the radio. I just think it's a sad thing.
And you, guys, I can see why, Matt, I know
why you like it. I can see why you like it.
But I also Matt loved the fact that you followed

(01:34:07):
your children because I think that's a good thing. I
think it's a really good thing, and there's so many
people who do like Halloween, but I just think it's
a horrible thing and the source of Halloween is completely ghastly.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Yeah, Debra. Yeah, So just to go back to that,
Jonathan Heights's latest book is called The Anxious Generation.

Speaker 6 (01:34:25):
It's brilliant. That's what I was talking about before.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
That's a texta that's in that through and that thing
with kids walking out and putting on costumes and going
around from househouse. It is great though, in a time
when kids are being coddled and being helicopter parented and
not being competent in the world.

Speaker 6 (01:34:39):
Don't you think there's.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
Something good in at Deborah when they get out and
they roam by themselves, they put on a costume and
they talk to adults and they are, you know, the
master of their own destiny for a while, for an afternoon.

Speaker 32 (01:34:53):
To a degree, Matt. But I think the thing is sadly.
I mean, look what you guys are talking about. I
think in the first are you know people who punch
people on buses or something, and would anyone stand up
for them?

Speaker 15 (01:35:06):
It's really sad.

Speaker 32 (01:35:07):
But in New Zealand there's too many defunk people who
don't seem to have respect for others. And oh gosh,
I thought of you know your children. That's why Matt
get up there and follow your children?

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
Yeah, yeah, I think if you are going to follow
your children, though, I think it's quite good to follow
them and then them not know to a certain extent,
so they are making their own decisions. And I think
that makes kids stronger and more independent, and the more
independent they can be, the better. And Jonathan Hyde talks
about leave them at home as much as you can
as well, you know, like, don't be they're worried once
that you know, I know, there's you've got to keep

(01:35:41):
your eye over them. You've got to know that they're safe.
But the more time they can be independent, the sooner
that they're they're at home and looking after themselves and
making decisions for themselves, the better. And it's really hard
for parents now to allow our kids to be independent
because we worry about them more than that my parents.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
I like the idea of meeting the neighbors. I think
that has been lost in New Zealand. And look, I
put my hand up. I don't know our new neighbors
that well. Didn't really know our neighbors that well. In
christ Church knew them a little bit. We did Christmas gifts,
so I suppose it's more than a lot of people.
But getting to know your neighbors, you know that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
Look at this text Tyler nineteen nine two came through.
I call it Hello Ween. Great way to grow community.
To know your neighbors' kids and their parents. That stand
back abit safe communities when you know your neighbors. That's
from Simon.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
There you go, that's exactly what I was getting at.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
Hello Weeen beautiful Simon.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Now we're going to carry this on after the headlines,
but we also want to talk about horror movies because
you're a massive horror movie fan. It's something you do
with the kids on Halloween.

Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:36:37):
I wrote an article about it on my substackmanhet substack
dot com. It was about how watching scary movies with
your kids is actually a good thing because there's a
buzz you get from being scared, and there's there's a
endorphin that you get after being scared, and I think
it kind of makes it again and making your kids
more more robust, and that's the point. You want to

(01:36:58):
make kids that are competent and strong and can live
in the world on their own, and scaring them is
a great great way to do that because they get
used to fear and how to deal with it. So
every Halloween, I make sure I watch a really scary
movie with my kids, and I have done it for
a very long time, probably movies that were way too
scary for their age.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
What are you talking about here? Like Saw? No, I
hate those movies. That's too much.

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
I hate those torture movies. That's not a horror.

Speaker 5 (01:37:24):
I want a psychological horror. I want I want, you know,
the Exorcist type situation. Actually the Exorsus is too full
of the kids. Yeah, but I just I will never
I hate those films like Saw. I hate the ones
that are just pure violence and indulging in that side
of it. But later on, I don't. I don't want
to ruin this discussion by saying my.

Speaker 6 (01:37:46):
Favorite horror films.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
I'd like to hear what other people's favorite horror films are.

Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
Oh, eight hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:37:51):
Eighty ten eighty I really said at nine two want
to I want to know what your favorite horror films are.
And at the end, I've got a list of the
five best horror films I believe of the century, of
the last twenty four years.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Looking forward to that, it's bango and hop ass three.

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Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
Thank you, Rayleen. It's twenty six to four.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
I just want to point out something good for people
that are interested in halloweena and Auckland and outside Eden
Park on Cricket af which is the east end of
Eden Park. They've got the fortress that they built, which
is a kid's playground based on the idea that Eden
Park is a fortress. But they've done that up beautifully
for Halloween. Lit up the tunnel. It's got a whole
lot of slides on it and stuff the Haunted Fortress.

(01:39:55):
And between four thirty and six thirty today you can
go along and the CEO of In Park, Nick Shawtan
is going to be handing out lotas there so Cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
He's a good man, nixt Aughtner.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
So if you're around that area and there's a bit
of Halloween in the Mount Eden area, it's a good
spot to past if you're in the area.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Fantastic, Simon. We're talking horror movies. You're a fan.

Speaker 10 (01:40:15):
Oh, I'm not a huge fan, but I've seen a
couple that have just absolutely changed my life. You know,
I've only just started going outside recently. Again, you know,
not a proud thing for growing. Man. I did see
one years ago Mel Gibson and Yokwan Phoenix called Signs.

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
Oh yeah, Signs, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:40:41):
Blood and go one but bloody hell, and it scared
the Bejesus out of me.

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
I'm a huge m Night Cemlin fan.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Obviously, Sixteens.

Speaker 6 (01:40:53):
Sixteens is phenomenal. I love the village. I love them.
I mean they're they're up and down.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
I like knock on the on, the knock on the
Kevin door whatever. It was the most recent one. But
Signs is interesting, isn't it? Because that's a horror movie.
But it's about aliens, and in the nineteen fifties, aliens
are really scary for people.

Speaker 10 (01:41:10):
It's not said in the nineteen fifty No no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
What I'm saying is that in the nineteen fifties, lots
of horror movies about aliens and The m Knight Shamala
and brought that back with signs being scared.

Speaker 10 (01:41:22):
The suspense you don't see the aliens too well in
the movie The Noises in the Cornfield and when that
dog goes running out of it and then it goes silent. Yeah,
and it just brings it all back. I've actually said
to my kids, never watch this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
It is terrifying. Yeah, great twist at the end, as
a lot of his movies do have.

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
Well, I'll give a bit of a dodging twist. But
but the thing is cornfields. Corn there's something terrifying and
they come up a lot in American horror films, just
been chased through corn fields, getting lost in corn fields,
things coming out of the cornfields?

Speaker 12 (01:41:54):
Are you going to have?

Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
And what's the other one, Simon?

Speaker 10 (01:41:57):
Hostile that's a little bit of a bloody gore, but
the youth to suspense, Well, it's not all about the
blood and gore, but it's bloody scary.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Thank you so much for your call, Simon.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
But in two movies, as you mentioned, you don't want
to end up in a corn field at nighttime that
you know, nothing good can happen from that. And same
with hostile. You just don't want to go to East
East Europe at any time of year. Eighty Matthew, how
are you?

Speaker 10 (01:42:23):
Oh good guys, Maddie again, how are you good?

Speaker 6 (01:42:26):
To talk to you?

Speaker 10 (01:42:28):
A few life changes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
The Omen, Oh god.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Yep, Damien, Damien was the kid.

Speaker 10 (01:42:36):
Damien and then she jumps off.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
Yeah yeah, the candy Man.

Speaker 6 (01:42:41):
Yeah, that's that's a terrifying movie.

Speaker 16 (01:42:43):
Yeah, that's a terrifying movie. That's a terrifying movie. And
Children of the Corn that's another one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
You go, that's the that's the corn of creepy kids
and the movies you're watching, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 16 (01:42:55):
But the Omen that really impacted me. And Salem's Lot
Stephen King, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
You haven't seen that one.

Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
So so the first Dimend movie was terrifying. They've re
made it recently that that is a truly terrifying movie.
As actually came to Barana, but but you always think
it as I used to work in a record store
and whenever the Omend played on TV, people would come
in and try and buy Marina Barana. But it was
not not not the same. But then of course you
Zealand Sam Neil was in the in the in the

(01:43:21):
third Imen movie, wasn't he?

Speaker 18 (01:43:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:43:24):
Yes, so no terrifying.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
Yeah, that is a truly terrifying movie.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
The first dimond one one that I saw, I actually
will go to Jet and first kid a Jettam Hey
how are you? Yeah, goods, what's your Halloween movie?

Speaker 30 (01:43:37):
So we recently wotched Alien and I know it's mortal
for sci fi but also has that total part to attach.

Speaker 12 (01:43:43):
To that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Tearfully.

Speaker 30 (01:43:44):
It's one of those pretty pretty old ones as well,
and I think ahead of their times. But I think
the other thing I just wanted touch basis about the neighborhood,
which we're talking about as well. I think this movie
actually watched all three Neighbors next Door at one of
the neighbors places, back to back board the movies and
the it's good to know that you've got the good

(01:44:04):
neighborhood and just keeping an eye and being vigilant just
in case someone to wait for Christmas break or long
weekends as well, so you've you've got and cover yourself
as well. So yeah, definitely you need your good neighborhead
and you just need to being alone as well.

Speaker 5 (01:44:18):
Yeah, I mean anytime you can get out of your fence,
because a lot of New Zealanders we go to work,
we come home, we shut the door, and we stay
inside our fence. And so many people don't know their
neighbors either side. So what if you think about Halloween,
if the kids in the neighborhoods and they go out
and do something together, whether it's playing sport together or
whatever it is. I don't know, singing carols maybe unerstanding

(01:44:41):
what happened, But I think Halloween sits in that same
same category of kids getting out and meeting their neighbors.
And it's so cool if you know that the neighborhood's kids,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
Yep, No, I agree, Jeton, Thank you very much. Now,
I've just remembered our horror movie that actually traumatized me
as a kid, and it's not a hugely popular one.
Tommy Knockers. Oh Tommy Knockers, Stephen King, Oh yeah, and
I'll tell you why. I would have been not years
old at my friend's place. And you know how the
videos used to have trailers at the start, the old VCRs.

(01:45:13):
And I can't even remember what movie we've got out,
but there was a trailer for the Tommy Knockers and
it was terrifying. It was just a slow zoom in
to the back of someone's head. Then they turn around
and it's this grotesque face, and then it was sort
of my mate disappears, Jonathan, where you gone? And he
comes running out with a stocking over his head, yelling
in my face. And I've never forgotten that still even

(01:45:34):
watched the movie. I don't know what it's about. I'm
too scared.

Speaker 5 (01:45:36):
Yeah, when I was a kid, me and my mate
Jacob Cooper, we used to He's had quite a big
house and we'd set up in front of the TV,
just on two stools, turn the lights out so there's
a huge amount of distance behind us, and watch movies.
We watched The Shining together like that, and his mum
came home and opened the door just quite politely, and
I screamed and screamed and screamed and fell off the
chair and ran across the room and ran into the door.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Love it the most horror fying horror movie You've seen,
the scariest horror or your favorite? Love to hear from you. Oh,
eight hundred at ten eighty is the number to call
nine two nine. It was the text number.

Speaker 29 (01:46:09):
It is nineteen to four, your new home of afternoon
tourth Tyler Adams Afternoon.

Speaker 8 (01:46:17):
Call, Oh eight hundred and eighty gen eighty News Talk
said be.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
Good afternoon to you at seventeen minutes to four.

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
Hey, guys, this is the tipt we got through on
nineteen nine two Loving you Together on the air.

Speaker 6 (01:46:28):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:46:29):
So I didn't actually mean to read that, but at
earlier Matt mentioned a Halloween movie he watched on Netflix.
The movie is Late Night with the Devil when I
watched last night, great movie to be as good as
it is. It's set in nineteen seventy seven and it's
just set in a late night talk show and they

(01:46:50):
bring onto the late night talk show a possessed child
and things spiral out of control.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Yes, Soham, how are you?

Speaker 32 (01:46:59):
Oh good?

Speaker 9 (01:47:00):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
What is there's good? What's your favorite horror?

Speaker 10 (01:47:04):
So the scariest one I seen and the one I
like just gave me a real cack was probably talk
to me.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Oh yeah, I couldn't finish that.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
That is a terrifying film.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
I generally could it, and I always I love horror
movies and I usually watched at the end, but that
one just it did something and I couldn't finish it. Yeah,
how old are you so?

Speaker 32 (01:47:28):
Fourteen?

Speaker 5 (01:47:29):
Oh wow, you're a brave fourteen year old, because there
was fourteen year olds in that movie. For people that
haven't seen it, it's an Australian movie and it's about
a group of kids and they start it's made by
two Australian brothers actually, and they start, there's his hand.

Speaker 6 (01:47:44):
And when you hold onto it, you see a dead person.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Yeah, I mean they were that. The lead actress saw him.
She was very good, wasn't she.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
I think she was.

Speaker 14 (01:47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:47:55):
And did you find it more terrifying because there were
kids in the movie that were your age?

Speaker 14 (01:48:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 36 (01:48:00):
I was traumatized for that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
I'm worth you there.

Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
So that is a truly scary movie. It's only a
couple of years old, and it is really good. If
you talk to me, boy, oh boy, that one really
hit me. And it's based on the idea these two
Australian brothers that made it that they saw a kid
having a convulsion at a party and everyone, all the
other kids just stood around and filmed the kid instead
of helping, and so they thought they was horrible and
they made a movie about people filming instead of helping

(01:48:27):
out in a paranormal situation.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Yeah, great movie. Just before we let you go, Sohm,
are you going to go trick or treating tonight, Levy?

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:48:36):
Probably?

Speaker 5 (01:48:36):
All right, all right, good man, thanks so much for calling,
and thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Craig, how you doing.

Speaker 26 (01:48:42):
Good day there, boys, good show. We're hearing now, Thank
you mate. A few years ago, well, it was quite
a few years ago. When I was about nine or ten,
my parents took me to a movie, and me and
my brother to a movie and dropped us off and
it happened to be Stephen King's Kujo Oh, And my
mother said, let's take the kids to a lovely doggy movie.

(01:49:06):
I hated horror movies.

Speaker 10 (01:49:08):
Everson.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
So how old a lovely dog?

Speaker 32 (01:49:11):
How old were you en?

Speaker 12 (01:49:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
Boys, So mamma had no idea you'd be sitting there
with your brother and suddenly realizing this is terrifying.

Speaker 13 (01:49:21):
It was awful.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
What did your mom say? I mean, I haven't seen
ko Joe, but I I was at some sort of
demon dog?

Speaker 10 (01:49:27):
Is it? It's a dog that gets written by a bat.

Speaker 26 (01:49:31):
Yeah, kids, rabies and then goes out to people that
is so close to home.

Speaker 6 (01:49:38):
And are you more scared of dogs or bats?

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
Now crag both it's bitten by bats? Wise man, Greg, Hey,
that hasn't really interesting text. Hey guys, great show question.
What was that substack called again? It's Matt Heath got
substack dot com and I've got an article on there
called forcing kids to watch horror films the Benefits. But
that's a little bit back. Today's the most recent one

(01:50:04):
is American sport pink cocaine.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
Anyway, Yeah, this tex is good. Kujo is basically a
rabbit Beethoven. I, John, there you going horror movies? What
are you reacking?

Speaker 25 (01:50:19):
But you had a caller on saying about the Omen earlier,
and I just wanted to give you a story in
relation to it. So that the church that they use
and the Omen is in the grounds of an army
camp in Britain, right, And when whenever I was in
the Army and you would arrived at this camp to
do guardship, they used to have the Omen playing in
the guardroom and they wouldn't tell you the church was

(01:50:43):
on your route. So you'd arrived then and you'd watch
the Omen, and then they send you out and you
ended up walking through the grounds of that church used
to win and hide stuff and get noises and things.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
That's terrifying. That's the one scene I remember, John specifically
from the Omen is the spire scene and we all
know it, but right outside the church and the pastor
is him what he needs to be doing, and then
it was sudden the spiral falls down and we know
it open there.

Speaker 25 (01:51:14):
Yeah. Well, it was all good fun until one of
these breaked out and discharged his firearm stopped after that?

Speaker 5 (01:51:22):
Wow, So did he dis judged it at someone or
just in the air? Did you charge it? Did judge
it in rage or in just by accident?

Speaker 25 (01:51:30):
End of the bushes he freaked out and things that
when you would walk past, they would hide and filled
the ropes and make everything shaken, and he freaked.

Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
Well, it seems understandable. So that theme to the Omen.
People think it's Kamena barana, but it's not. It's ave
Sentani right, Avei from the ninety six seventy sixth film
The omens Cerifying, composed by Jerry Goldsmith.

Speaker 6 (01:51:56):
You'll know it if you hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Yeah, John, fantastic story. Thank you very much, Chris. How
you doing.

Speaker 38 (01:52:02):
There's a lot of recent ones you think of a
conjuring one and two.

Speaker 12 (01:52:05):
Oh yes, it follows small all all those.

Speaker 38 (01:52:09):
But the best horror sci fi horror is the great
Kurt Russell and John Carpenter is the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:52:17):
Tyler was mentioned this before.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Yeah, that's my favorite. Chriss. That is such a good movie.
Terrifying but so good. The atmosphere, oh man.

Speaker 38 (01:52:25):
And the best the best Spielboog film was Jaws. Not
too horrible, but you know that made ever run not
want to go to the beach. And then the reality
ones these days, like even the original o g. The
Blear Witch Project fantastic, that is actually quite freaky.

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
I just watched I just watched The Blue Witch Project
the other day, actually again because I was trying to
work out what happened at the end. I watched that
and then then then the sequel, because it was two sequels.
The one quite a few years later was just called
the Blair Witch Project. Again, that was okay, but the
original is terrifying. Not a lot happens, arguably, apart from
some stones being piled up in front of some tense

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people getting lost in some weird wooden things hanging from trees.
But it is terrifying, Thank you, very.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Much, Chris. The thing about The Blair Witch when it
first came to movie theaters is the viral marketing around
it was so clever. People thought it was a snuff
Well there was a documentary on Tell You about the
Blair Witch, and everybody thought it was an actual documentary,
which was terrifying.

Speaker 8 (01:53:26):
Les.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
How are you?

Speaker 39 (01:53:28):
Yeah, thank you guys.

Speaker 12 (01:53:29):
Yep.

Speaker 39 (01:53:30):
This was another oots that didn't involve me. My husband
was quite a young man in the early eighties. Meet
a girl he liked, nice Christian girl. It sort of
take her to a nice Christian new movie that Exodus.

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
Yep, the Exodus, but it wasn't It wasn't exod.

Speaker 6 (01:53:54):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
Yeah, what that would about? I mean it had a lovely,
you know, too lovely past, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:53:58):
Or priests?

Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
Yeah, yeah, well we can go wrong.

Speaker 20 (01:54:01):
I think they had to leave.

Speaker 15 (01:54:04):
Yeah, basically, I mean too much.

Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
This different some challenging. There's some definitely some challenging stuff
in that movie. But the exociusse When did that came out?
That probably would have come out about nineteen seventy three,
I believe. But it's still the scariest movie to this day.
It is a truly chilling.

Speaker 20 (01:54:22):
Movie called the Exodus, or not that they got to
see that, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's great, thank you very much. Whether it's
a myth or not. But there was some pretty nasty
stuff that happened on that film. Seit wasn't it. There
was a there was a person that died, there was
some spooed.

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
Market. There's been some stuff since there.

Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
But William Friedkin, who directed it, he did things like
freezing the sets so when they were shooting those scenes,
it was actually basically in a bear fridge genius, so
people were cold. There was that you know when you
can see the breath. It was really that cold there.
They did a lot of stuff, but they set the
whole rooms they were shooting in so they shaked around,
so you know, I think it was Yeah, it was

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Linda Bleir. She was a kid and absolutely terrified when
she it so slightly dodgy, but fantastic movie.

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Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Hey you Ashley, watch your go to horror movie.

Speaker 24 (01:55:30):
Yeah, how are you doing?

Speaker 12 (01:55:31):
Boy?

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
Yeah, we're very good, excellent.

Speaker 24 (01:55:34):
I've got a bit of a yarn. So when I
was a kid, which was like fifty years ago, because
I'm really old, when I grew up in a place
called Too Danny, and we used to have movies every
now and then in the local Scout Deans. Now, you've
got to realize that back in the day, the scariest
thing we ever saw was on the television. It was

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probably Enid Sharples with their heads Scout.

Speaker 5 (01:56:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Now I hate to rush you, Ashley, but we've got
about thirty seconds.

Speaker 14 (01:56:04):
Oh good, we'll this.

Speaker 24 (01:56:05):
Will be really fast. So anyway, the name of the
movie was called Lohr, Bobby and Rose and it was
the first time in my life I saw someone get
shot and I had to run to the toilet. She
haunted me till this day. I had the saut I know, right,
like even your old kid. And I even googled it,
like last year. I got brave enough last year to

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google it, and this was fifty years ago to see
if it was real.

Speaker 13 (01:56:28):
And it was real.

Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
Oh, happy Halloween.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
That's fantastic. Actually, thank you right quickly. Your top three, okay,
my top three.

Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
I'm going to my top six because the satanic number
Talk to Me twenty twenty two, The Cabin and the
Woods twenty eleven, Late Night with the Devil twenty twenty three,
Paranormal Activity twenty eight days later, Hereditary give a Taste
of Kiwi, Happy Halloween.

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