Full Show Podcast: 15 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to the Matton
Tyler Afternoons pod for the fifteenth of November twenty twenty four.
Hell of a show. A lot of talk about doc
and whether they should charge people or not to get
into doc parks. A lot of talk about that, and
then we went deep into printer chat and then we

(00:38):
had the New Zealand of the week, didn't we.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
We did, and topical tunes as well. Some great songs
there and I think the right person won, just like man.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah yeah, And look we're accused of hitting light topics
when there were heavy topics around and to that, I say, yeah,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, it's what we do. It's what we do, and
we love it.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
There'll be some light and there'll be some dark, So
enjoy the show and look, have a great weekend. And
you've seen busy. I let you go give my taste
KEEI from me.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
All right, then you're new for insightful and enter teening Talk.
It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, good afternoon here, you know, and we're going to
show to do man apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
How did that happen? We were just standing out over
the guest begging yeah, and then we notice we have
to rush over here and do a radio show.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I kind of forgot we're on radio now.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's not. It's Friday. But it's not a knockoff yet, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Only you have to run meet as an on puff
to mean. I'm gott to do some exercise.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I tell you you got three hours of quality and
insightful talk back to do before you can. You can
rest up.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
One thing we are is we are professionals here. Don't
worry about that. Right onto the show after three o'clock,
because it is Friday. We've got topical tunes, where Matt
and I each peck a song related to a theme
of the week. You were the ragning champ Man.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yep, I believe I'm at five to one. Yep, yes,
so eight hundred and eighty ten eighty bit if best
of three calls decides whose song is most topical and
the better tune. We've also got our weekly announcement of
the new Zealander of the week. Makes sense it would
be weekly. If it's New Zealand of the week, who
will it be? I mean, so many people putting up
their hands this week and doing amazing things. But who

(02:21):
will win?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, looking forward to that after three o'clock, after two
o'clock this well, this is going to be a good discussion.
So Craig christ Strong name says he is angry after
Auckland Council declined his request to plant a tree on
a patch of what he calls Baron land. It was
his wife's last wish to have a native tree planted
in Point Whels. This is a rural settlement and Rodney,

(02:44):
the council's headers request not meet the criteria in their
memorial guidelines. It's something a council would say. I say,
let them plant the tree.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You say that, yeah, wow for you, you say that
you don't need mister rules, Tyler. I thought you'd be like, well,
if someone plants a tree there, then everyone plants a
tree on everything that happens in their lives. Suddenly we're
living in a forest.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'll tell you what. If he wanted to do Dowey's
on his jet ski in memory, I'd say no way, mate.
But in this instance, I just think, where's the humanity.
I mean, does it really matter the council if he
wants to plant a native tree.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I just can't believe he asked, I mean in terms
of crimes that you might get in trouble with trouble
for I mean, just go and plant the tree. I mean,
I mean I've planted, as you know, Tyler, I've planted
an illegal perhutakawa and that's growing strong. I didn't ask permission,
and the council have me a few letters, but I
will chain myself to that podaca if they're go and

(03:44):
shop it down.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I look forward to that day. Please let that day come.
That is after two o'clock though, because right now we
want to talk about potentially charging thawsand New Zealanders to
enter our national parks. There's a consultation document out at
the moment, and I've raised some key questions that they're
asking the public.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, Conservation Minister Tama Putake says, and he says, we
are consoling on a proposal to introduce access charges for
some public conservation areas, which could create new river new
streams to support the maintenance and upkeep of our most
iconic landscape. So How do you feel about having to
pay to go on your national into your own national park.

(04:27):
This isn't just international visitors. This would be all New
Zealanders going onto their own national park and having to pay.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
How do you feel about that? If you were to
go to let's say kohu Angi National Park that's the
top of the south and you enter into that area
and all of a sudden they say, hey, where's your ticket?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think rubbish. I own that park as a New Zealander.
That's mine, it's my get out. No, I'd say no,
But if a tourists came over here, I'd say, charge
them one hundred and fifty bucks. Charge me nothing, and
a tourist one hundred and fifty bucks is what I'd say.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
A lot of people would agree with that. I don't.
I actually am okay with being charged to go into
these areas. And I say that as an advert tramper
of being in these areas A lot to go into
the huts, right, But I actually, once I did enough trampine,
I get the season passed. So I paid doc eighty
bucks a season and I can stay on whatever hut
I want outside of the great Walks, and that to me,
is an investment in those areas.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I agree with paying to stay in a hut, yeah,
one hundred percent, And I don't have a problem with
paying to walk the Great Walks. But all I'm just
saying is a bit weird if you're going to charge
just to be in a national park. So you're here
and you're on New Zealand Land, and then you walk
a little bit further and you're also in New Zealand Land,
but it's called a national park, so then you get

(05:43):
charged for it. That just seems a little bit weird
for me always to pay for them in our Texas.
We already pay for them in our Texas, right.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Well, one of the questions being asked is where should
the charges apply? Well, the first question is should should
there be charges? One for international win for kiwis the
second question? I like, we should those charges apply because
they already apply to the Great Walks, right And you
said that there's a good reason for that. They're very
popular and we need to have some way to keep

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the numbers at a sustainable level, and it makes sense
to charge the international tourists more. But to me, extend
that out to all national parks, I think that makes
sense to me.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, okay, No, I'm not for it.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Let's get into it. Nine two nine two is a
text number they are ripping in now. It is eleven
past one. You're listening to Matt and Tyler very very
good afternoon to you.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
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Speaker 3 (06:43):
There'd be good afternoon. Fourteen past one. So the Department
of Conservation or the Minister Tama Portaka has put out
a discussion document asking a range of questions. One of
the key ones is around charging tourists and potentially Kiwi's
for access to our national parks. So the three questions
they'll put in the document who should be charged? Should

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fees apply only to international visitors or also to Kiwi?
Or should we or should charges apply? What types of
locations are suitable for such bees? How should revenue be used?
It's a big discussion. I say, I'm okay with a
charge to Kiwi's. Matt doesn't, But what do you say?

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call Lydia very good afternoon to.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
You, Jordan, Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 8 (07:27):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
We're good. So you, ah, well, you are very involved
in tourism, aren't you. You look after McKenzie tourism.

Speaker 8 (07:34):
I do.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
I'm a mckensey tourism manager and we obviously have the
old acumunt Cook National Park beautiful, which is arguably one
of the busiest national parks in the country and has
some of the most severe I guess over tourism and
tourism pressures in that park. So I probably come from
quite a place of passion and probably reasonably well about
the topic.

Speaker 9 (07:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Absolutely, And what's what's your opinion on charging people to
enter national parks?

Speaker 7 (08:02):
Yeah? Look, we need to find a solution for this right. Tourism,
the funding of tourism needs a complete review and there
needs to.

Speaker 10 (08:10):
Be much more user place model because what we.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
Are currently seeing in our country is unsustainable. You know,
I really feel for doc and I feel particularly for
local government who are responsible for a lot of the infrastructure,
the public toilets and whatnot in those places of high tourism.
And look, if you look at the McKinsey region and
Lake Tekipo, for example, you know we have to service

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a population of fifteen times our resident population purely just
on tourism and around. This is a global problem and
so we need to look globally at solutions, and a
lot of that does come into you know, a user
pays models, and I'm not against dual up pricing, so
a chieper price for Kiwi's and charging internationals a lot

(08:54):
a lot more. I think that's that model works overseas.
But we serainly need to be trying new things and
I really it's encouraging to see the ministers, both the
Tourism Minister and the Conservation Minister look at new new
solutions because what we have that is just not working
and it's not sustainable.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
LYDIA, how much would you think would be a reasonable
cost to New Zealanders and a reasonable cost for international tourists.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Totally, we probably just need to see some modeling first
and make a more informed decision. I certainly don't think
there's any appetite from anyone in the sector to make
it unaffordable for Kiwi's. We love Kiwi's exploring your backyard,
but we just need to source of revenue and it
can really help our friends and doc tourists in a
conservation of state.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
What about the concept that we already pay for these
parks and an hour with our tax dollars. And it's
kind of odd to say to New Zealanders, you you
can walk here, but you can't if you go into
this area, which is also part of your country, you
have to pay.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
Yeah, and look, that is one of the biggest struggles
that we have because tourism affected pre COVID generated one
point eight billion dollars in GST alone from and we
would love to see that and into tourism assets such
as conservation estates.

Speaker 11 (10:11):
And the.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
Reality is it goes into the big black hole of
government and it doesn't have a direct flow into any
of those assets that need maintenance. So, you know, we'd
love to see that happen and maybe the government could
look at that, but they haven't. And we have been
advocating for a new model for a long time, so
it is encouraging for them to see, you know, to

(10:33):
explore new revenue models.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Really in your area, what percentage is it Kiwi tourists
and what percentage is it international?

Speaker 7 (10:42):
And then McKenzie, yeah, yeah, so it really depends on
the season. So in summer, for example, we're probably about
fifty five percent international forty five percent domestic, but that
s whitches completely full winter where we see much higher
domestic visitation.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Do you think it would sorry to jump in there?
Do you think it would put off some Kiwis if
they there was legislation came into place that if they
wanted to go into National Park with the McKenzie District
and they needed to pay for that, that would put
off some of that local tourism.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
I think it just depends on what that price point
is right, and nobody in the sector wants to just
see it at an unaffordable level for Kiwis. I think, yeah,
there needs to be some really robust modeling.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
M M. Yeah, because I would say charge the international
tourists up the wazoo, because when I'm overseas, I never
question a charge. I just expect that those are the
rules for the country. So I say, work out how
much money you want to get and plant that on
the international tourists and leave the kiwis alone.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Yeah, and I guess we do. You do still have
to look at whether if there is enough revenue from
international to make it affordable. I mean, you know, they've
just increased the international visitor levy. There's there's visa increases.
So we are kind of reaching a point in I
guess the market where we are unaffordable and what we
don't want to do is kind of distributive. Sector is currently.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Sector and you know pre COVID it was.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
So there's a balance there and there's some really robust
financial worldling to be done. But certainly we need to
explore revenue models, we need to review what's happening overseas,
and we need to look at more user pays.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
You mentioned before, Lydia that another story that popped into
the headlines this week was charging for parking at the
lux of Mount Cook and some other areas. Friends, Joseph,
has that been controversial or has that been pretty straightforward?
People understand that, Hey, you know car parks are at
a premium. You may you should be paid for that.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
Look, if you've seen that national I can only speak
on behalf of obviously old akimunt Cook National Park, but
if you've seen the numbers of cars and the numbers
of campers line us right there over the summer summer months,
it's heartbreaking because you just see this too much so
my community is I'm pretty pleased about it, but they

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also acknowledge it's not the silver bullet and more work
needs to be done to ensure that we have a
sustainable tourism sector and that goes across everything from our
conservation estate to our public toilets and other facilities that visitors.

Speaker 12 (13:13):
You.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, very interesting, Great to chat with you, Lydia. Thank
you very much for giving us a call. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Love
to hear your thoughts on this as well. Nine two
nine too is the text number.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah this Texas through nineteen nine two. It's hard enough
getting our kids outside. No charge for New Zealanders using
the national parks. Make the international tourists pay.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yep, good text that one. All right, get on the phone.
Oh e one hundred and eighteen eighty is a numbered call.
It's twenty one past one.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 13 (13:42):
Last year there were eight hundred ninety two thousand visa applications, right,
how many of those were skilled workers? Turns out one
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Speaker 14 (13:53):
What we're saying is the ONLYCD and other research organizations
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not only in processing visas but attracting the people that
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on whether or not to come here.

Speaker 13 (14:15):
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Speaker 3 (14:22):
Good afternoon, it is twenty four past one.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
We're talking about a proposal from Conservation Minister Tama Portucker.
He's saying, we are consulting on a proposal to introduce
access charges for some public con preservation areas. We're talking
about natural parks. You think you should pay to be
on them? And I was trying to articulate a thought
I had in my mind about it, and I couldn't
quite get there. But this texture, I think sums it up.
So I live in Wellington and the McKenzie District wants

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to charge me to visit the parks there. So when
the Mackenzie residents come to Wellington, are are they going
to pay us? It kind of leads to that question
because everywhere needs more money. And so you could argue,
say Queenstown puts a perimeter around it because you have
so many tourists going there and the ratepayers there are
having to cover the cost of all the tourists that

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comes through Queenstown. So do you put a fence around
there and charge people going to Queenstown? And then do
you start and then from there do you naturally go
out around put it around christ Church? You know, there's
so many areas that need need money. And a national
park is part of New Zealand. It's owned by New Zealanders.
Our tax payer dollars go to running dock and running
the park, so you can put a fence around everything

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inside it. There's a reason to get money for being there.
But I just say, look, international tourists, you don't pay
the tax here, so you come over and when you
go on to a national park you pay not Bloody me.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Is a number of goal patsionate Michael, how are you.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Good?

Speaker 15 (15:50):
Thank you? I just many years ago I actually suggested
to dog maybe that was the wrong people. That my
partner and I've done the don Arena a crossing, for example,
three times.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yep, so we paid.

Speaker 15 (16:04):
We paid the bus that picked us up from our motel,
dropped us off at the start and then picked us
up at the end, and that was forty dollars ahead
and nothing towards the track up keep. So that the
bus driver said, when I've also done a lot of
trekking in rapport in the MLAs and there the Nepolice,

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the native people. If you want to go on the
plane and to go into the park, into the every
regional park, they pay a hell of a lot less
than us as foreign tourists do. So, I mean, the
ton Arera track is such an iconic one day holiday.

(16:48):
If you want more experience, I wouldn't mind paying twenty
dollars as a New Zealander. But yeah, charge to the
tourists fifty bucks nothing. I just feel that at the moment,
the wrong people in one way, the bus drivers or
the bus companies, the ones who transport them there I'm

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making the money.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean, but you could take that to the
next level and I say, you know, let's charge the
Kiwi's nothing and charge the international tour it's seventy dollars. Yeah,
we it's our parks. So when it's there are parts,
but you're you're a keen tramper. You're a keen tramper,
and you do pay for the great walks, right, Oh, you.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Definitely pay for the great walks. And I can only
speak on Abel Tasman was the last one that me
and my partner did, oh gosh, about five years ago,
and I and from memory, we actually got charged to
the international rate by mistake because we did the kayaking trip,
so it was packaged up that we had to pay
per night plus the kayaks.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, I bet that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, it's fantastic. But when the warden, the local warden
at the campsite, he looked at our ticket and he said,
you're getting paid the international So yeah, he was furious.
He said, no, no, no, that's not right. You're in
New Zealand and no, we're going to sort that out.
And I was going to let don't worry about it's fine.
It's what was what was the difference about thirty bucks?
So twenty bucks for kiwis per day, fifty bucks for
international to do the.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Walk yep, and then you paid for hearts as well.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
That was not yes you did so we were tending,
so that was just to be in the park.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So then if you're in the Heart yet, I don't
think it was an extra twenty bucks a night.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Right, Yeah, I don't know. If you're doing the Great Walks,
I kind of get it, But I'm just talking about
if you if you're driving across the country and you
pull in with your family to have a lock, Yeah,
then that's then I don't think you should get out
of your car, but I wonder if you get out
of your car and you have a bit of a
look around then, But I mean if you're maybe And
I actually don't think ke we should be charged for

(18:41):
the Great Walks either, because we were already paying for
everything anyway. Yeah, But what I would say is that
the Great Walks you're on there, there's there's more upkeep
for the Great Walks, and there is just the park
in general, right, yes, yeah, because you have to keep
the tracks going, and so I'm not so anti the
charge for that, but I think that international tourists should
get charged. I love a lot more than that, definitely,

(19:03):
And I would say Keywi should get charged minimal, if anything,
to be on the Great.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
But thank you you've helped me articulate my point a
bit better than I have until this point, and hopefully
I nail it now that I pay my eighty buck
back country pass, so that means that I can go
on to any dock hut that's not on the Great
Walk for the season, for the whole year. And I'm
happy to pay that money because it's ring fenced to
go to those tracks and those conservation areas, as are

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the Great Walks. That's all ring fence. That money cannot
be used for anything else but going into those tracks.
So if that was the situation here, that if people
have paid to go into the likes of the Khudangi
or the tuttador Is near Wellington the National Park, then
I'm not saying charge them as soon as they land
in Wellington Airport. They have to go to a National

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park first, as long as it goes back to that park. Okay, well,
I haven't sold you yet.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now I'm going to set up a toll at the
end of my street because tourists driving down my street
there's a little bit of upkeep for that.

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Speaker 3 (21:29):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. And we are talking about
the potential of charging kiwisan international tourists for use of
national parks. I mean that's one of the options. Tama Portucker,
he is the Minister of Conservation at the moment, has
floated in a discussion document and I will say I
have floated the idea of national parks. The actual question
they have raised is if there are charges, where should

(21:51):
those charges apply it?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
But everything needs money and every and we keep adding
new charges to everything. But do charges ever go away?
Has anyone ever heard of it of someone going, oh,
we don't need some money in this year, so we're
moving the charges. There's just charges freaking everywhere.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I'm going to make a massive allegation here towards some
international tourists. So when you go to a dock hut yea,
you are meant to pay a hut fee and that
changed itself. It's a basic hut which has bugger all
in it. It's a bit run down. You pay five
bucks a night. If it's the standard hut, you pay
ten bucks. If it's the high level hut, you pay
I think fifteen. I would say most key we pay that.

(22:29):
If they go into a duck dock hut, they will
get their dock ticket and they'll pay that money. International tourists,
I don't think. No, I'm serious. The amount of times
have been in the dock hut and they claim ignorance
is we didn't know we had to pay.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Boo yeah, boo yeah. I think you should definitely pay
if you stay in one of the huts. I'm not
talking about that. I'm just talking about going on to
a national park and when we've already paid for them
in their taxes and there's just everyone putting out the
hand saying I've got another charge for us, another charge
of that to make it work.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
But where does it stop?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Where does it stop?

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Jesse, what's your thoughts.

Speaker 9 (23:01):
On this, fellas. I actually live on the border of
Tongodell In National Park.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Lucky Man, beautiful.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
There's no way I'm going to be paying, right, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
But if you're on the border, you just don't, you know,
you just keep your feet on the.

Speaker 9 (23:14):
Other side fence. Yeah, but no, in terms of using
the tracks, you know the sign marked maintained built tracks,
why not there should be some form of views of
pay to maintain it, and most definitely international tourists, like
I think that's it. Anywhere else in the world you go,

(23:35):
you pay a fee to access some natural land. Yeah yeah,
and even I think in Germany in some places beaches
you even have to pay to go to some of
the beaches.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
So I'm charge the international tourists. Hey, what kind of
stuff do you do when you jump the fence into
the national path?

Speaker 9 (23:50):
Well, that's the other thing. We do a lot of
conservation work with pets control where hunters fishing. Unfortunately in
some cases we end up cleaning up after some of
our international tourists.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, disgusting, and just on that, just on that, Jessey,
because I don't know one hundred percent that I think, well,
you're going to have a fishing license, So that goes back.
Some of that goes back to the deplotment of conservation.
The hunters do they have to pay for a permit.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
No, they don't pay, but there is a permitting system.
But again maybe, Yeah, I've always toyed with the thought
that maybe paid hunting permit. It's hard for us because
all of our species are exotic species and class as
pests here. So yeah, it's a bit hard to charge
people to because.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
You're actually helping out.

Speaker 12 (24:36):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 9 (24:38):
User pays man, especially when it comes to anything that
needs ongoing maintenance and upkey.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, that's that's what I agree with. If you're going
to be if you're walking a track, sure, yeah, but
it's been ridiculous to charge charge him to jump over
his fence. So that's what all I'm saying. I'm saying,
isn't the idea that you would charge to go on
to a national park at all, any way, shape or form,
even if you're walking on the hunting, fishing or whatever.

(25:04):
That seems crazy to me because it's all New Zealand, right. Yeah.
If you're walking the track, then sure, that's a totally
different thing because the track has to be built specifically
for it and the huts all that stuff. Charge that,
But I say charge the international tours up the wazoo.
We as a country needs to be an international just
a fleecing system here that idea. You get them here

(25:25):
and it's our job as New Zealand is to fleece
them for everything before they go away.

Speaker 9 (25:32):
Jesse Y Mets for Department of Conservation Ministers.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, exactly, get them to the top operation fleece the tourists.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Tony, how are you mate.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
I'm good. I'm just going to have a little take
map to shoot. As do you own, you still have
to pay for it. If you drive on the road,
you entrol tax. If you want to race your car,
you pay the race track. So tourists and Kiwi's possibly

(26:04):
should pay the same to use the facility.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, but what if you're not using facilities. What I'm
saying is I'm taking a very pure and we don't
know if that this would ever this happen, but it's
very vague in what they're saying. But if you're a
family and you've driven down the roads and you've paid
your taxes and you've paid your registation on the roads,
and you pull off the road to just go and
have a little walk through the bush with your family,

(26:30):
you know, just a little a little look around that
would seem ridiculous to me that you'd pay for that.
I get if you're on the track because you're actually
using something to actually build something, but just having a
little nosy around some trees, you're going to charge people
for that?

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Look at a ten minute walk, nos. But if you're
doing your two hour bush bash, yeah, pay for it.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, but don't we want Keywis to be out doing
a two hour bush bash. Yeah, that's exactly what we
want to do. If you're bashing bush, go for it.
If you if you're on the track and staying in
a heart, then then maybe pay. But what ever happens,
let's just make the international tourists pay a lot, because
whenever I'm overseas, I seem to get fleeced completely everywhere

(27:15):
I go. You go here and there's an international fee
and you pay it and you don't care because you're
a tourist and these those are the rules of where
you have gone.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Well, no, if you've been overseas, how many times have
you not done something because of.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
The cost, Well, every time I go overseas?

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, but the local.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
But sorry, so you go, sorry, Tony, you go?

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Yeah, So after local paces, tame amount it's there. So
if you want to go to the Tom Lorrero, but well,
if you want to go into the White Jack res
the Cowdy Woman, Yeah, that's five back.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
The more I think about it, Tony though, and and
just I'm kind of coming in the middle here that
and this is what annoys me that I think people
like you who get into the bush, and people like
me you get a to the bush, we pay because
we know that's the right thing to do. We care
about where we're walking, and that's something we love to do,
so we're happy to pay for that because it goes
back to that activity. The tourists don't have that same mentality.

(28:19):
So that's what I'm right behind, as Matt says, fleecing
the tourists. But maybe if you ask someone that uses
those those areas, you're going to pay anyway. So it's
not a compulsory system, but it's it's heavily implied that
it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, a lot. If you go to the museum, you
mean to pay, unless you're a rate payer, but even
then the rates should put a dollar coin in. Yeah,
So yeah, I think it should be a fair thing
where local pays the same as a turtle.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, but but locals are already contributing with their tax
dollars before they before anything happens. An international tourist hasn't
contributed anything. So surely you should get at least a
discount because a certain amount of your money's gone to
dock already if.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
You pay the tag and your tax money. As you say,
is that not only your area, So if you're from Wellington,
then coming to Auckland, surely you should pay because it's
not your area.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Well well doc DOC is as a central government agency.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
But.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
You could also the Walentonians, as some textas said before
on nine two nine two, could start charging people for
coming to Wellington. I wouldn't go, So they go, you're
from Auckland. You played rates in Auckland. You don't play
rates in Wellington. I just want to I'd buys. So
you have to pay twenty bucks a night to hang
out in Wellington. It's kind of the same. It could

(29:49):
go anywhere, and you could get to the point where
you're charging people to go to the beach as well.
So there are reasons. There's upkeep on the beach, there's
there's a whole lot of you know, restoration, of sand
dunes and such, So maybe you could, maybe you could
charge people go to the beach as well, if you're
going to get into charging people for going tonal natural
country assets.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Depends on what beach. What beach are we talking about here? Kai, Terry,
Terry again, I just wouldn't pay. I wouldn't pay to
go to the beach. There's plenty of coastline in New Zealand.
Eight hundreds.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, that's kind of special to get there.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
And they charge me five bucks to do that. Oh,
e one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number of call.
Nineteen nine two is a text number back in it
is eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred eighty
and Taylor Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four youth Talks, say'd.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Be Mark, good afternoon. You think visitors already pay through levies?

Speaker 17 (30:44):
I do.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
Look, I just want you to have an informed position
before you make any further comments and continue to dish
out on these valuable international tourists that we we're hosting.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Charge the more.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
No carry on already well.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
Already do no, we already do.

Speaker 17 (30:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
I think that's important that you guys understand.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, we were. We were aware that we charge them.
We understand that we're about where do we charge them
chide and when they arrive in the country eight hundred dollars,
Yeah we should and that's fine and then we should.
But we don't know where they're going to go when
they come into the country. So I'm just saying charge
them when they go to the parks, charge them again, Well, they.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
Do if they do any not not similar to New
Zealanders when they go into the parks, so they take
any by a triple commercial operation, they pay Quitt quite
a lot of money and that does go back to
dock in quite a you know. So they go skin
on current peak or a triple cone, what kind peak
money goes there? They go on a boat of Milford,
they pay there. If they land on the helicopter on

(31:42):
the way, there's twenty eight dollars.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
They have holly.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
Skinning fifty dollars a year. So you know, we've got
to take this into consideration. There's a couple of things.
There's also to spillover from visitors to New Zealand. You know,
GST going to the coffee shop buying petrol and they
just help to get it as our biggest export owner.
So if you want to shut the gate, so we'll
make it, make New Zealand uncompetitive on the world stage

(32:07):
and so visitors stop coming.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, you could argue we're already uncompetitive on the world
stage because we're so far away. But all I'm saying
is in my experience when I go overseas, and I'm
always charged more as an international guest. An international tourist
into a country happens at the parks in America. So
I don't see what the problem is. New Zealanders already

(32:31):
pay tax that goes to DOC and goes to the
national parks upkeep, So we've already paid some So personally,
I don't think we should pay anything New Zealanders, but
we should definitely pay less than the international tourists who
haven't contributed anywhere near as much as we have over
the years, or as we do yearly in our tax.

Speaker 8 (32:51):
Yeah, so if you host somebody to your house on
the weekend, you do charge them with the door to
get across the threshold. Look, we're hosting these people. Look
I don't disagree. No, just give me a chance. I
don't disagree. So if you go worldwide and look at
the various national parks, look at America. Americans to pay
your combined annual pass eighty dollars and you can go

(33:11):
to any of the parts or you go to some
of them. So all I'm saying to you is, let's
take an informed position on this, take a balance view,
and not make it so restrictive to as you get
people to come in and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
What's not balance? What's not balanced about the view that
we should charge international tourists if we're going to charge
people to go to national parks, if we're going to
charge everyone to go to national parks. What's not balanced
about saying we should charge tourists more.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
Well, well, we just did, didn't We just shifted the
international visitor levy from thirty five dollars to one hundred
for them to step across, you know, to get out
of the airport, and and that money that was tag
back to conservation. Then every time they pay on any
of those trips, we have a new Zealander or international visitor.
So there's two things here is where do we colleck
the money? Number one, do you do it out of

(34:01):
border or do your national pass? And then how is
it spent, and that's a key one. So a lot
of that those fees going into consolidate the fund and
how is it actually spread out? And I suppose that's
an argument today on this and your channel is how
do you then apply those funds? So my argument is,
let's just be careful how we click those funds, let's

(34:22):
do it in a smart manner. And then further to that,
how do we then apply that and where does that
money go to?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Mark, I know who you are. You've spent a long
time in tourism and you've been very successful in the
tourism space. But is it genuine when people because this
argument keeps popping up that if we charge the international
tourists too much, they just won't come here. I just
don't buy that. I mean, clearly there is a level,
but what we're talking about here, to me, I just
don't see that.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
Okay, No, I don't disagree. But if we charge too
much and they stop coming here, then with a major problem.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, Well, what I would say, the only reason why
we want them here is to charge them and as
much as we possibly can, right up to the limits.
So as a country, we should be looking at charging
tourists right to the very limit they can bear to
come here, because that's what we have them here. If
we're treating it as a export earning, which it is
when they come here, then that's what we should do.

(35:17):
What that limit is, I'm not sure. But when they
go to a park. You can come into this country
and you don't go to a park and you don't pay,
But if you want to go to the park, you pay,
and you pay more than keywis.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
Yeah, And it's a circular argument. So what we've got
a problem at the moment. Are we providing a good
experience and good facilities everywhere? And you know, I'm sure
most most in the national visitors or most visitors are
happy to pay, but as long as they get in
the quality experience in generally they are. But some of
our facilities are not up to standard. And that's one
of the problems we got there. So I think we're

(35:51):
probably both agreeing on the one thing.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, all right, thinks you call Mark?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah, very good to chat. Oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. It is tend
to do.

Speaker 11 (36:05):
Maddie Tyler Adams seeking your calls.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Oh eight hundred Tyler Adams afternoons news.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
It is seven to two.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
So Tyler, how much do you think they have to
pay to go to Yossi MC National Park and Yosi MC?

Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yo might yes, Yo might?

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (36:22):
M yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Where's that?

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yo MC?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Is that in your I?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
O S E M I T E yos might National pank?

Speaker 11 (36:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Is that how the that's how the local yost It
sounds like a nice pluck.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
How much do you think you have to pay for?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
And I think about what fifty bucks UIs or euro.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's thirty five dollars thirty five thirty five dollars and
it's just a step foot yeah, yeah, all right, roll Bruce,
you've recently been to the US.

Speaker 18 (36:50):
Yes, we were there three or four years ago and
we were driving around in the middle of nowhere. I
can't actually remember which national park it was. It might
have been death fairly. I don't know whether that's a
national park or not. And like it was the middle
of now were all of a sudden, we're driving long
I was a few years is here we get up
a bit closer. There's a hut on the side of
the road with a barrier across he said fifty dollars

(37:12):
to drive through this park thancake. So we gave him
fifty dollars and carried on.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Did he look legit?

Speaker 18 (37:18):
Yeah, oh yeah it was legit. Yeah, no doubt about that.
He was in the uniform and everything, you know. Yeah,
so I don't know he was the local guard or whatever,
ranger or whatever you call them.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, and I don't remember. You're okay with that for
Death Valley? Paying?

Speaker 19 (37:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (37:36):
Yeah, I think it was Death Valley and yeah, no, no,
no problem.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
We got out.

Speaker 18 (37:40):
We looked all around death Elliott was great.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, I think you don't. You don't mind paying. If
you're an international tourist in someone else's country, you're aware
in your mind that you are a visitor, and you
do you just pay pay what you pay. Yeah, I'm
so annoyed. I said, you'll see might And I said to.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Tyler, so exactly what you were doing?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I said, If I said that, I'd get hundreds of
texts people correcting me.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
But they hey, they're coming through, are they you helmets?
It's Yosemite?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Is it? Is it? I didn't know. Amazing, Oh one.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Hundred and eighty ten eighty here they come through now good.
You guys know exactly what nine two is the ticks number.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
We're going to carry juvenile from me from me? We
got I know it. Darcy water Graves just come out.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
He's furious you've upset everybody. Actually, they're all coming through
now right. We've got time for Scott's gott. We've got
a minute before the news get a Scott are you yeah? Good?

Speaker 20 (38:47):
K No, not at all. We already paid our taxes.
We already charged a bizinessor levy for international businesses coming here.
But also Trump played past National Park a couple of
years ago. Doc no longer maintained that track, So why
am I paying to went through park? The doc don't.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Maintain good points?

Speaker 20 (39:09):
Has it been made years? Because it doesn't get the traffic.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
So do you also not think we should charge international
tourists as well?

Speaker 20 (39:18):
Well, we already do charge international tourists and visitor levy
to come here. I'm happy to charge them more, but
again it becomes that fine line of charge too much, well,
then go somewhere else. But also just to throw a
cat among the pigeons, our own New Zealander is going
to pay or are a certain percentage is going to

(39:38):
claim customary rights and therefore be exempt from paying.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Well there's been no details on that.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, yeah, but thank you very much, Scott.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I guess my point being around the levy. They
might not go to the National Park, so different lev
there for international tours.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, we're going to pick this up after the news.
Oh under and eighty eighteen eighty is the number of
COO nine two ninety two is the takes number News
Sporting Weather or on its way.

Speaker 11 (40:05):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
It's met he Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty
four News Talk zib.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Good afternoon, seven past to welcome back into the show. Friday.
You should be feeling good on a Friday. Life's too
short to be grumpy and upset on a Friday.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yesterday I went to RNZAF Base aid or HOCKEYA and
I flew out of Wellington down there in one of
the yeah, one of the king years, and we did
a what it was called a buzz and break anyway,
let's not go into those details. Was fantastic and met
a lot of their people down there, service people down there,

(40:43):
the pilots, the support, star fuel people, maintenance people and
they are just the best New Zealanders in the RNZAF.
They are incredible people and what they do is phenomenal.
Got to write in some simulators. I did a bit
of a I did a keynote addressed and then I
went along to a formal dinner as well, yep, and

(41:04):
had the best time. And the things they do a
phenomenal for our country, you know, search and rescue and
you know transporting around the important people and all the
things they do that is so much stuff and they're
just the absolute best of us. Beautiful and beautifully So
I hadn't been born so dumb. I would have loved
to have been a pilot.

Speaker 17 (41:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Good keep and we should be proud of our military
and the Air Force. Absolutely right. We have been talking
about potentially charging New Zealanders to use places like national
parks as part of a discussion document that the Department
of Conservation has put into the ether. They want to
hear from us about whether this is a good idea.
And one of the questions they ask is around potentially
charging tourists an international tourists, And I'll just read out

(41:46):
these key questions. Who should be charged? Should fees apply
only to international visitors or also to Kiwi tourists. Where
should those charges apply, what types of locations are suitable
for such vis and how should that revenue be used.
Plenty of feedback coming through on the text machine. Nine
two nine tours that number, and we'd love to have
a check with you on this one oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
My vi honor has charged the internet national tourists and
don't charge kiweks because we already pay our taxes for it.
But this TEXTI here says guys, I pay my taxes
and don't go to national parks. So why so for
thousands like me, I'm not getting anything out of it? Well,
I think you are knowing that your country's got beautiful
natural parks. I mean I think I think spiritually you

(42:26):
might be getting something out of it.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah, And just just to the point of what the
caller last hour who said that the tracks weren't up
kept and they are a bit run down, I mean,
that's the whole point about charging people. That the money
is ring fenced to go back into those tracks.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
How pristine does it have to be? You don't need
the red carpet rolled out as you walk up the track.
It's got to be a bit.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I refuse to walk those tracks. They're boring. I want rugged,
I want to buschbasher.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
But yeah, it's got to be a little bit challenging
or what's the point?

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yeah, Carl, what do you feel about this?

Speaker 21 (42:57):
Absolus?

Speaker 8 (43:00):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah? Gotcha?

Speaker 22 (43:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Clear?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Key, keen on your thoughts. Is it a wise move
to look at charges?

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Well?

Speaker 21 (43:07):
Look at the reality is in New Zealand the tourism
industry really highlights the problem that we have here, and
that's we don't have enough people to pay our rates
to pay for infrastructure and tourism, especially tourism areas high
density areas are really struggling, particularly those low populations. See
absolutely I support a levy and not The reality is
it's expensive to fly or get to New Zealand anyway.

(43:31):
Adding one hundred bucks or two hundred bucks on is
really to me here or there. The problem also is
how does that get divvied up when it gets here
because at the moment that's controlled by central government, but really,
in my mind needs to go to the areas where
the terists are spending their money to pay for that infrastructure.
Otherwise it just gets lost and there are a lot

(43:52):
of ways you can tax or charge people for going.

Speaker 20 (43:55):
To certain areas.

Speaker 21 (43:56):
Obviously, you can have your arrival levy, which they're doing
at the moment as you say, they put up from
twenty five to one hundred bucks.

Speaker 23 (44:03):
But you could have taxes.

Speaker 21 (44:05):
Going into high quality or high demand areas such as
Mount Cook National Park for instance, or Fieldland National Park,
where the kiwi's have got to pay is a whole
other question, I guess, But again it comes down to
quality of infrastructure. And as a tourism operator myself, I know,
you know, I'm a little bit apprehensive about making ourselves

(44:28):
too expensive, but you need to have good product and
I always used to say that, you know, we've advertised
for a party of one hundred, we actually had a
thousand people turn up. And if you look at infrastructure
such as the national I've got going now, a lot
of it doesn't have toilets, it doesn't have facilities, so

(44:49):
it's untidy and those things impact on people's quality of experience.
So I fully support a tourism needing for people arriving here.
If you go to most other countries in the world,
you pay it, and we do suffer from not having
enough people to pay for those sorts of things one percent.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I think it's interesting though when people say, you know,
maybe tourists won't come or if it costs too much.
But everything you do in tourism, if you if you're
traveling overseas, if you're coming to New Zealand, we absolutely
fleece tourists. Anytime you go to do something that's that's
in a popular tourist place, whatever you think it's going
to cost, it costs three times that. And it blows

(45:30):
your mind. Why wouldn't we do the same thing with
our national parks? Why would a tourism operator who works
out the right amount to keep them in business and
make a profit and keep going. They work out a
price and tourists will pay it, and if it's too much,
they don't. But why don't we do that in national parks.
Let's just see, Well tourists still do the walks. If
it's five hundred bucks, well let's let's try it, because

(45:52):
otherwise they're just coming over there and we're not. If
we're not making money from them, then what's the point
in the tourists.

Speaker 21 (45:57):
If you're paying five hundred bucks, you're doing it through
a private company. If you if you're doing it on
your own, it's either going to be that much.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
But the next time, I'm just using it as as
an example. You find the cost that is that is
at the exact point where you make money off the
tourists and they still they still come. That's what you do.
You don't charge them nothing. You find that, you find
the cost that is the right cost for us to
make money off them and for them to keep coming.
And that's what every tourism operator does. That's what that's

(46:23):
what we do, but we don't do it in our
national parks. So just find out what that money is.
Five hundred sounds a lot. I was just using that example,
but maybe it's two fifty. I mean, how much do
you pay for a bungee jump?

Speaker 11 (46:34):
It's about that.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Well, it's quite expensive. And you're right, you know you
get the young tourists coming through. I mean, car, what
what do you do in tourism? What's your business?

Speaker 21 (46:44):
I know, well, their own Tikopa springs that make Tekea pots.
So we've about one hundred and seventy thousand people through.
You have probably divided fifty fifty between international and domestic.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Your era gets absolutely punished by the amount of people
coming through and the amount of locals that have to
pay for the infrastructure.

Speaker 21 (47:04):
Well, we're a basic example. I guess I've look four
and a half thousand rowe as. We've got huge tourism
growth and we our infrastructure is really struggling.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (47:12):
So, but you know it's central government have to change
legislation so that these areas get some of that money back. Definitely,
and at the moment.

Speaker 24 (47:20):
That's not how it works.

Speaker 21 (47:22):
I mean, there are examples and other places in the
world of Switzerland and Germany where those high use areas
get a lot of that money back.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
But it's good to check to you, Carl, because in
the McKenzie district, I think you guys are the canary
and the coal mine. You know, we've talked about Queenstown
and I wrote to all and Topoor, but I think
you guys have been feeling it more than anybody else
in terms of how much it's tried to expand and
how much tourists are flooding into the area and the
infrastructure can't cope and you can't do bed levees and
you can't charge tourists to go on the walks and

(47:52):
in the McKenzie districts. So it starts to get hard
for you guys, right.

Speaker 21 (47:57):
Yeah, well, there are a lot of things we could
do that would that would help.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Them in favor.

Speaker 21 (48:01):
I mean, you know, you have road tolls and all
sorts of places in the world you simply drive through
it and it'll send you a bill. And I don't
see why those sorts of things couldn't be introduced again,
it comes back to legislating a central government level to
actually be able to do these things.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, great to chat with you, cal Thank you very much.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.
Tichoo Springs are amazing by the way you've been.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Oh yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Oh good and winter incredible area of the world. Yeah. Absolutely.
It is a quarter past two.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
You're a new home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams
Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Said, be seventeen past two, and we are talking about
the potential to charge international tourists more to go to
our national parks and maybe even us keywis.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah, And I said before that it's it's our job
and why we have tourists here is to try and
fleece them for as much as we can. We work
out what the prices to bring them in, and they
do give a value to the country or us. There
is absolutely no point. And I think it's every the responsible,
every man, woman and child in this country to lease
the people that come here to at the extent of
our abilities. And boy, am I getting a lot of

(49:10):
hate for this. It's really firing up. That is that
overtly demonstrative statement has really fired people up on nine
two nine two, and I love it. Matt. That is disgusting.
Tourists are here to enjoy what we have, not to
be treated like a commodity. Matt Heath, you might like
using people for money. I prefer to welcome them with

(49:32):
open arms. Oh wow, Okay, that is no way to
treat people. Says another text. The tourists are humans, not
eight ms. Look, if people move to this country and
start paying taxes, then they can fleece them and open them. Welcome. Yeah,
welcome with open arms and welcome tourists. One of the
best ways to fleece tourists is still be welcome. Them

(49:53):
with open arms. You welcome them open arms, You show
them where the great things are, and then you charge
them to go and use them. And if that's the
national parks, then so glad you came to a country
love visitors from overseas one hundred and fifty bucks, please
and go and enjoy our natural wonderlands.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you want to
abuse Matt's you're more than welcome right now.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Is loving me today?

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Mall you mate?

Speaker 5 (50:22):
I'm very good, thank you?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
And what's your thought about charging tourists more? Fleecing them
for all their worth? As Matt said, enjoying your show, guys.

Speaker 20 (50:33):
And yeah, look, I don't know if we'll be.

Speaker 24 (50:35):
Calling it pleecing, but I actually agree with them, and
the fleecing is probably not the right word.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
But if not the word we'd share, we would we
wouldn't share that word with them, We wouldn't let them
know that we were calling it out.

Speaker 24 (50:48):
Okay, let's keep check that on the lowdown. We'll just
make sure that they've got an absolutely pleasurable experience and
that we've managed to extract every single nickel or dimeon
and they've enjoyed the ride, and I think that there's
a number of countries around the world that are very
very very good at doing that. And I've recently had

(51:09):
the experience of going to Ireland and it was very
very expensive and I found by the time I finished,
my pockets were absolutely empty that I had and enjoyed
the experience, and that's suck efic thing they possibly cout
out of my pocket. And so I agree with you,
you know, but please sing no. So kwis kiwis as

(51:32):
a birthright. I think we're entitled because of everything that's
been contributed to have access to the bush, and there's
no doubt about it. We're trying to encourage a healthy
populace and one way of doing that is making it
readily accessible to people, no.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Matter who they are.

Speaker 24 (51:48):
We're one people, one country, and they should all be
entitled to it as their birthright, and the overseas visitors
that come they should obviously contribute. I think it should
be a little bit targeted, particularly where we can and
there's some fantastic information centers up and down the country
and people going to be doing these work walks, they

(52:10):
should go there and they should obtain the permits. The
permit should be relatively cheap. But like overseas, you know,
some of the places, if you get caught and you
don't have that permit and you're a tourist or whoever,
you know, you pay handsomely for being.

Speaker 11 (52:27):
Tinged, you know.

Speaker 24 (52:28):
And if you've got a top worker and you're a
tourist and you get caught on the trail and you
haven't got your permit or whatever else with you, you know,
there's a handsome fine which can be extracted before you
leave the country.

Speaker 18 (52:38):
Thank you very much, Yeah you.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Know, yeah, well I think thank you so much for
your call. This this Texas hit says do other seat?
Where is it that's gone? Disappeared on me? One second?
But Bubba, so many texts abusing me coming in, it's
hard to get to the one that or boy, where's
it gone?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Well, here's one that agrees with you. Yes, Matt love
what you're saying, New Zealand is a business? Is it not?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Well, I'll just remember what Basically here we go on
with Matt. Text coming through this keeps going down on
on with Matt. Other countries do other country overseas fleece us?
Of course they do? Wake up people. That's one hundred
percent correct. But it took me a long time to
find a text that was about focus.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
With blooding in. At the moment, you've really put the.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, because because I go You know, I went to
Hawaii not so long ago, and they absolutely fleeced me.
Hawaii is a well oiled tourist fleecing machine. You wouldn't
believe the ways they get money out of you. The
money just you leave, you're completely stripped of all the
cash you could possibly they can possibly get off you. Yeah,
but I had a great time and I'll probably go back.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Same with Thailand. I went to Thailand as a somewhat
wealthy guy and they took most of my money and
I'm still making up for it now.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
That's that's all I'm saying. That's the point of tourism.
It's not a nasty thing. You We love to meet people.
We love all people from all around the world. But
you're naive if you think when you go to another
country that they're not doing everything they can to fleece you.
That's the point. People are on holidays, they've got that's
when they're going to spend spend money. So my point
is that if our tourism operators are so good at
fleecing people as they are, and I know fleecing this

(54:09):
is a triggering word for the text machine. It's operation
Secret fleece. We just we don't say that to the tourists.
We say it's operation Everyone in New Zealand knows that's
their job to fleece the tourists. We don't tell the
tourists that that's what we're doing. To all intentsive purpose,
they come here and just they have a wonderfull time.
But we are fleecing them. But that's that's the point.
And I'm all I'm saying is that the national parks
that people that tourists go on to, why aren't we

(54:30):
doing treating the same way as a bungee jump operator
would or a jetboat operator a would we find the
price that they're willing to pay and then we charge
them that.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, And you know, just as it's oigned.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
By the government doesn't mean that it shouldn't. We shouldn't
be trying to make money from the tourists that come
here for its upkeep and Kiwi's We're already paid for
the upkeep with our taxes. So kiwis free International tourists
get charged a lot to go to our international park
in national parks.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
One hundred percent pure fleecing. That's the new campaign slogan.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two nine two is the text number. It is
twenty four past.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Two matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
News talks HEB twenty six past two.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Just got a text here in nine two nine two,
Mett you discussed me, not that one. That wasn't when
I was going to read out this one here, kiwis
are too nice. We are allowed to make money from people.
That's all I am saying is that it is. We
have tourists here for one reason, and that's to make
money off them. And why do the tourists and operators
make as much money as they can But the government

(55:35):
national parks don't make all the money they can, so
charge them, find the limit that they're willing to pay
and charge them just like any other business. And key
wes that have paid their taxes get to go to
the national parks for free. Do you disagree? Oh e
one hundred eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Mark, how do you feel about that?

Speaker 6 (55:50):
Yes, yeah, I'm in full agreement with charging for the
national parks. There are good facilities being offered and I myself,
I use them and I don't mind paying for them.
But there should be no exemption. So at the same time,
everyone pays, regardless whether they are THEOC worker off having

(56:12):
this time off and whatnot not. They pay Indigenous people,
they pay to no exemptions. We all pay and yep, add.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
The same racers international mark or do we get a discount.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Now?

Speaker 6 (56:27):
I think you keep it all the same and you
go online to buy the tickets bought online and if
you get caught in a park without a permit, without
a paid ticket, then you get fined heavily. And on
the other hand, the doc wants a good shake up.
We need to get those people out of those people,

(56:47):
the staff, those permanent staff in, the officers out and
roll this leaves up and do some work for a change,
rather than get out getting contractors because they just sit
in their office and get contractors out and corporate office
and all that. We need to get them guys out working.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Thanks so much you call Mark. This textra gorues me absolutely.
Tip the tourist upside down, shake all the money from
their posts and sent them home. But someone also points
out on nineteen nine two, don't miss the point that
oversees visit's pay directly Circle n zed one billion dollars
in GST per Ani the at tax. That's true, But
we get more GST the more we get them to

(57:24):
spend here, so that that GST take goes up once
we get them here and we get them paying for
Once operation fleees the tourists, it gets underway.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Quick text here, gooda guys, here we go again. We
are the nation that wants everything but doesn't want to
pay for anything. Wake up. There is a cost to everything,
but it should be a reasonable cost from us. I
suppose to your point, Yes, there is a cost in
the international tourists. Yeah, I can pay for it.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah. And the national parks we already pay for with
our taxes. Yeah, the tourists ston't.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Tony, how do you feel about this hike?

Speaker 25 (57:56):
I got here like absolutely charged tourists. I don't think, key,
we should be charged you with quite earlier on who
said that that is at birth right, and you know,
to a degree I agree with that. All those you
know some facilities will need to be charged for. But
if you go off shore, you know, all things you do,
whether it's a walk or even just to walk down

(58:17):
onto the beach, you know, you get charged for.

Speaker 17 (58:19):
You get for.

Speaker 25 (58:20):
And one of the things that is in the headlines
recently is about, you know, the number of tourists sort
of reaching pre COVID levels. Well, I actually don't want that.
I want a lower volume of higher value tourists because
a few years ago now, but coming up through the
Mckenji Country you're talking about it before tighter coming up
through the Mckenji Country in central Otago, and it's just ghastly,

(58:44):
you know, the freedom and the number of people just
swarming through these natural, natural areas. We just we can't
sustain the tourism that we have at the moment.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
It's it's you know.

Speaker 25 (58:57):
Destroying the beauty that everyone wants to come and see.
And I'm actually all for this movement that you that
you heard about and where was the America's Cup Bartolona
and you know an in Florence, in Venus and these
other you know, really highly touristed areas about pushback against
over tourism. Absolutely charged the tourists lower than volume of tourists,

(59:20):
but that increased the revenue to her head.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
If they do more damage than good, then then what's
the point. I like this text on nine two nine two.
We fleece each others hard, so why aren't we fleecing
the tourists. That's true. We are fleecing each other, and
you seem nothing's cheap at the moment.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Let's wrap other people off, right, Thank you very much.
We're going to pick this up after the headlines, but
we're going to change tech a little bit.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, and look we are in talkback radio and keis
love talking about weather. But I was talking to an
international pilot yesterday because I was down at an airbase
and I was twitted this interational payer and he said,
after a few drinks he said this and this, this
might this might fire people up. It wasn't any of
the good people of the in zaf that said that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Right, this is an internetional pilot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, I was speaking down it haka and afterwards in
the formal dinner I got talking to it. I'm not
going to say what.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Nation, no keep that he was from, but he said that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
New Zealand has the worst weather in the world that
he has flown everywhere in the world, and he said,
we have the worst climate in the world. And he
couldn't believe it that no one said before he came here,
that New Zealand has rubbish weather from the top to
the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
How dare name and shame? Who is this guy?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Look it it's on an R and Z base. So
this this overseas pilot and look the New Zealand pilots
didn't agree. In fact, we had a bit of discussion
and they said New Zealand it's a challenging place to fly, absolutely,
but you know they love that part of it. But yeah,
he said, New Zealand has the worst weather in the world.
Do we do, people that have traveled the world a lot?

(01:01:03):
I mean, we have a lot of rain, We have
a lot of weather. It's variable and it depends what
you mean by worse weather as well, because I like it.
I like seasons. But it does rain a lot. Where
we're a thin island and we get we get we
get stuff from all sides.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
It's changeable.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
But do we have the worst weather in the entire world?

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Oh ten eighty nine to ninety two is a text number.
Oh Man you've upset people again, Matt Right, get on
the phones. It airs twenty eight minutes to three.

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(01:02:46):
Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Thank you, Rayleen. It is twenty four to three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
I was at the rnzaf A base at or Hockeya
yesterday for doing a speech, as I said before, and
the people down there, those pilots, the people everyone involved
in the air force that I met are just the
most fantastic people, the best of us, absolute great New Zealanders.
I met an overseas pilot there as well during the
formal dinner and he was a nice guy. But he

(01:03:11):
says to me, he says, he says, he says, New
Zealand has the absolute worst weather in the world. He's
flying everywhere in the world and New Zealand has the
absolute worst weather. There was a lot of kickback from
the Kiwi pilots on that. Yeah, they said, we had
interesting with her here, but not the worst weather in
the world. And it was a great discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
But do we how dare he and what do you reckon?

Speaker 11 (01:03:35):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (01:03:36):
Absolutely, we don't have the worst weather in the world.
I was brought up in Angram. I've been a Kiwi
for years now. We came out here and had our
children here, and I'm a Kiwi. But I go back
to when I was a teenager on a farm and
I can remember one particular morning. It was so cold
the inside because nobody had inside. It was a great,

(01:03:59):
big old farmhouse and we had no warmth at night.
You know, they just used hot water bottles and what
you could do. And it was frozen on the inside,
and the goldfish got frozen and they then the little
cheap thing and my mom had to defrost them slowly
and they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Lived and bring it back and it still lives.

Speaker 26 (01:04:21):
There was a little bit. But one thing I do
want to tell you was I went outside I can
remember as a child and walked towards it and there
were birds and they were frozen to death and they
were still clutching on the hedge. It was so cold.
And my interest was farming, which I pursued, and you

(01:04:42):
know it was you had to get hot water out
to get the open the gates to get into the cattle,
and they knocked you over because you were trying to
give them hay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
And where is the housecape that you're talking about Obviously
it's in England, but what part of.

Speaker 26 (01:04:55):
It and this would have been I don't know where
I was at that stage. I worked all different times.
I went to the college at Rittle and so around
there somewhere you had to do practical work. But I
had plenty of practical work on my own farm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
We don't know what cold is here in New Zealand.
So you know, this guy's saying we've got the worst
weather ever. He was complaining about wind and rain. But
you know, if you people in Canada and certain times, yeah,
if their cat gets gets out of the house, that's
in a frozen cat. You go out in the Yeah,
that's that's a catsicle. You there's nowhere in New Zealand

(01:05:31):
that will produce catsicles. But I mean the question is
what is the worst weather as well? Because I like
the four seasons in one day. I like the variety.
And as someone texts here another fan of Captain Scott Buttery,
who's my favorite ATR Pilot in New Zealand. Great pilot
rams it into like a tent pig and when he
lands in Napier but a great pilot and a crosswind.
But as everyone knows in New Zealand. You that the

(01:05:52):
pilots always say there's a bit of weather about. When
you're flying, there's a bit of weather about, And that's
what you say about New Zealand. There is always a
bit of weather about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
We love saying that phrase.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Does that make it the worst weather in the world. Yeah,
I don't know. And also what's good and bad? Like
you know, I've often been jealous of that those states
in America. I quite like the idea of it being
snowed over and then you come into summer and it's
really hot and you experience a couple of things. You
might say that's freezing cold temperatures are the worst weather
in the world, But they're interesting and they're dramatic and
they're different and it's the rich test tapestry of life.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yeah. I've got a couple of English mates and they
live here now they've got their residency the citizens, I think,
and they love it here. But they kept talking about
if there was a day that we have here in
New Zealand like ninety percent of the time, if that
day happened in England, the beer gardens would just be
absolutely crammed with people. Even if it's a light dusting
of rain. They'll still be crammed out saying this is

(01:06:42):
the best day we've had a month's here in New Zealand.
If it's a little bit of rain, no one's going
to the beer gunner.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Yeah. Well, I grew up in Dunedin and I feel
like there was pro dunedan weather propaganda that I was
under growing up because I thought I lived in a
tropical paradise. I just thought that we had the best
weather in the world and it was terrible in London
and we were in New Zealand were basically a tropical country.
I didn't know. I must have been climatized, and I
was blown away when I moved to Auckland and found
out that the duneedan weather substantially colder than now to

(01:07:08):
be half the time, favorite city in the world, but
substantially colder than it needs to be from time to time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Sue, how are you?

Speaker 12 (01:07:16):
I'm fine?

Speaker 27 (01:07:17):
Thank you? Am I talking now? Tore?

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Yeah, we want to hear weather. New Zealand has got
the worse weather.

Speaker 27 (01:07:23):
Oh yeah, Well, my son is in southern Queensland on
the coast, and I was talking to him a couple
of days ago, and you know what the temperature was,
thirty six degrees. Now, why would you want to bask
in that?

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Yeah? That's not fun.

Speaker 22 (01:07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
I mean, on one hand, you have frozen cats if
you go outside in Canada, and then on the flip side,
thirty six degrees where you can cook an egg on
the bonnet. Neither of those things sound good to me.

Speaker 17 (01:07:52):
No.

Speaker 27 (01:07:53):
And the thing is it's going to get hot at
what's it going to be in February?

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Yeah, well, good question. This will be the first summer
that I lived in Auckland. But I've been told that
it's going to get pretty crazy up here. Come fed
and the humidity that's hard for me to get used to.
I've got to be honest to you.

Speaker 27 (01:08:09):
Yeah, you going to get a heat pump.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Yeah, very true. Words, Thank you very much, Sue.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
If you look at the climate of New Zealand, you know,
I just looked it up on an American site and
it says New Zealand has a large, largely temperate climate
looking up on an American site, because it doesn't matter. Well,
the far North has subtropical weather during summer, and the
inline alpine areas of the South Island can be as
cold as negteen. Most of the country lies close to
the coast, which I mean the temperature. It's moderate with

(01:08:34):
heavy rainfall but also abundant sunshine. Yeah, that sounds pretty
good to me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yeah, heck here, oh one hundred eighty ten eighty. Do
we have the worst weather on the world, as this
international pilot from some country told Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
As the texts said on nine two nine two, don't
forget Americans think the world consists of the USA and Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, it is eighteen minutes to three.

Speaker 11 (01:08:55):
It's done.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
You take on talk bag, Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons,
have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks.

Speaker 11 (01:09:03):
They'd be so.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Quarter to three? Do we have the worst weather in
the world?

Speaker 10 (01:09:07):
Collein, My goodness, I can't believe we're talking about the weather.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yeah, that's the key with favorite topic, but specifically for me,
because I was I was talking to an overseas pilot
and the overseas pilot told me we have the worst
weather in the world. And it's only it's only been
five weeks on talk back for me, and I'm already
talking about the weather.

Speaker 10 (01:09:29):
That's what I mean. I mean, you know, it's trying
to wake up the smell of coffee. I would say
he's a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Well, I don't know how many. I mean, he is
in the Air Force, so.

Speaker 10 (01:09:44):
Whatever, they're everywhere, they're lurking, they are, they are.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
What's your take on, Colleen?

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Oh rubbish, Yeah, rubbish.

Speaker 24 (01:09:55):
It's rubbish.

Speaker 12 (01:09:56):
That's the end of it.

Speaker 10 (01:09:56):
That's all I've got to say on that. But I
do have something to say on this thing about going
to part Yes, I've got to get on because I can't.
He's talking about the weather. I'm sitting here and absolutely
teeming down and the curves of everything's just rushing with
leave the water.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Well let's talk about fleecing international tourists then, yeah, let's
see that.

Speaker 10 (01:10:18):
It sounds better for me.

Speaker 28 (01:10:20):
I think.

Speaker 10 (01:10:22):
I actually think because of the state of our rate,
because of our infrastructure. Now I'm going to get very deeper,
meaningful here.

Speaker 24 (01:10:29):
So they bear with mac.

Speaker 10 (01:10:31):
We need to start paying for our stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Otherwise it all just.

Speaker 10 (01:10:34):
Gets pulled into our rates and then only the rate
payers are paying for all these services. Otherwise they're taking
it from our tax So again we're suffering a penalty.
So if you want to go play down the park,
and I don't know, get a license and shoot them
there and have a good weekend campaign whatever you're doing

(01:10:56):
down there. I think we should pay fifty percent and
the tourist per Matt, how do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
You feel about that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I think the touris should definitely pay more because, as
you say, they're not playing tax and but but I
personally think the key we shouldn't pay anything. And anything
we were about to charge the key, we we should
charge the overseas people if there's amount of money we need.
I mean, what is doc's budget, you know how much?
How much does DOC? What do they get?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
And I don't get much.

Speaker 10 (01:11:26):
I'm not I'm not knocking dock or you know, death.
They've got a huge job on their hands. But I'm
saying that there's too much. There's too much management. There's
too many management people in these places taking salaries. I'm
not saying they're not doing a job. But the country's

(01:11:47):
infrastructure is completely stuff everywhere.

Speaker 29 (01:11:50):
Yeah, it's time.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
Nobody wants to up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Yep, it's not fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
The Department of Conversation was directed by the government to
find savings of thirty one million per annum. So it's
an interesting thing when a government department finds savings by
charging New Zealanders to use their facilities that they went.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Before A good point. Now you mentioned that, I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Mean, are you finding savings or are you just finding
another way to get your tax base?

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
That changes it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah, so so is that why? That's where it is.
It's like, so, so what do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
We say that at the start? That changes? I've cut
the budget and then they want to fleece us for more. Yeah,
I'm not paying anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
You haven't made the if you haven't made efficiencies to
drop that by thirty million. What you've done is just
come up with an idea to to to indirectly tax us.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Garth, how are you, mate?

Speaker 30 (01:12:42):
Close?

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Get a? What do you reckon?

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Am?

Speaker 24 (01:12:46):
I on?

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Ere?

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
You certainly mate? This is your moment?

Speaker 17 (01:12:49):
I just I got I heard the last caller. I
think it was the topic being weather.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:12:57):
I'm up here in Orkland at the moment, just sitting
in my car trying to lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Isn't it out of the rain?

Speaker 17 (01:13:02):
And it's just been constantly raining up here, which is Orkhand,
which is from what I Yeah, from what I know
Auckland is all I know is rain.

Speaker 30 (01:13:12):
Yeah, yeah, but no I grew up on Hawks Bay,
so yeah, and traveled extensively sort of around New Zealand
pretty much.

Speaker 17 (01:13:22):
And I think Orcan's probably got the most diabolical weather
of the country, to be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Honest, even even over Wellington.

Speaker 31 (01:13:30):
Yeah, even over Wellington, which is pretty awful, but it's
just it's just miserable in Auckland and it's sort of yeah,
and I'm very much a person who likes to get
around by foot, and you know, and walking in Orklansa,
it's not a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
Desirable city to be walking in, whether.

Speaker 17 (01:13:48):
You've got an umbrella or not. I guess Wellington is
not either. But saying that, I mean, I've also lived
abroad in Europe and I think, you know, weather patterns,
we've got a lot better than a lot of other
countries in the world in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Well, I guess, I guess if you're from hawks Hawk's
Bay originally, that's a pretty I mean, no one could
say that that has the worst climate in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
That is almost the perfect climate Hawk's Bay for me,
if I was going to if I was going to
get what I want in the climate, notwithstanding when there's
hurricanes in a cyclone's coming through But apart from that, oh.

Speaker 17 (01:14:24):
Gets it gets very hot and dry down there. I
mean even the humidity. Fact. I lived in Christis for
six years and I found going up in Hawke's Bay
living in christ Church only three years ago a very
similar climate. I mean a lot of humidity in christ
Church now in the summers it gets really really humid
in the summers.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
As an Elson boy, I'd take your Hawk's Bay and
presents you Nelson on the top of the South. It
doesn't get better than that, surely. I mean, Hawk's Bay
is pretty nice, but Nelson takes the cake.

Speaker 17 (01:14:52):
Yeah, yeah, I just make comparison to I mean, I look,
I lived in Europe for eleven years in Italy, but
that was very much inland, in the sort of the
north of Italy, and the climate over there it's just extremes.
In the summers, you just.

Speaker 8 (01:15:08):
Get the is really very, very really humid.

Speaker 17 (01:15:11):
If you think Awkland humid, nothing like the humidity I've
experienced in northern Italy. And it was basically that it's
there a place called Corona, which is in the north
of Italy and I live there, like I said, a
number of years. But humidity fact just being it's basically
trapped up against the mountains and you just not being

(01:15:34):
near the ocean, which you know New Zealand, you're always
you're pretty much initiative. And yeah, unfortunately live in Parmersan
North or Hamilton or somewhere or and obviously around central
the Central Plateau. But yeah, extreme hot, extreme heat in
the summers. Really in the winter's very cold and humid

(01:15:55):
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Yeah, exactly, I think if you cool Garth. Yeah, we're talking
about someone that came up to me, a pilot from
overseas and see we've got the worst weather in the
World's interesting something that gar said there about if you're
from Dunedin when people say you that it's cold here,
you go, but it doesn't rain nearly as much as
it does in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Exactly. Yeah, I don't know why you put up with
it up here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
The precipitation. There's a lot of precipitation. There's a lot
of weather about in Auckland. As the pilots say, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call.
It's eight to three.

Speaker 11 (01:16:25):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four news Talk said be five to three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
We were talking about tourists, international tourists and how I
believe we need as operation fleece them. But I said
it needs to be a secret operation. It can't get
out there with the fleecing. So the tourists know they
have to be welcomed with open arms. And then every man,
warning child shouldry and take as much money off and
they can for the good of your economy. This Texas
sums up with the problem with that, you knuckleheads listening
to the radio while driving my rental car in the rain.

(01:16:57):
I am a tourist in New Zealand, arrived three weeks ago.
I'm going to tell my friends not to come. Hotels, restaurants,
car rentals are very expensive already, and you're telling us
to We're telling people to fly even more. That was
the problem with operations secret fleece the tourist. You should
never said it on the biggest radio station in the country.
It was bound to get out to the tourists. They
were bound to find out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
But dear tourists, you're inside the house now, so you're
going to keep that secret. You know you're part of
the crew now, so you know, just play the game,
would you, Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Don't fleece Amar's he's in on operation super Fleece Mars.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
How are you mate?

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Yeah, I'm good man, Tyler. Hey, good show.

Speaker 17 (01:17:34):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
I just wanted to comment on the weather and this
proposal for park charges.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Yep, we'll only going to just quickly. Marc has only
got about thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Crap crap, whether he's crap.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
What's that?

Speaker 32 (01:17:46):
Yeah, absolutely crap. I was overseas for twenty years. I'm
a fisherman here and the weather's definitely crappy in New Zealand,
no doubt about it, in terms of chirt or fishing days.
To get compared with other countries in the world, Asia, Africa, Europe,
et cetera.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
It's yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:18:03):
I mean, we're very proud of our country and our weather,
but it sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Yeah. I think you call marcuson on that a positive note.
We'll we'll end up we'll finish the weather chat.

Speaker 9 (01:18:11):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
I would say there's a lot of weather about in
New Zealand. It's the pilots today that so I'd say it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Yeah, nice phrase. Right after three o'clock, we're gonna have
new Zealander of the Week which we always look forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
And also the top will tune two songs, one for me,
one from Tyler. You vote on Oh I turned at
eighty teen eighty, Who's is the best?

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Nine nine two is the teach number? New Sport and
Weather on its wave. We'll see on the other side
of three.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
O'clock your new home for insightful and enter teening talk.
It's Maddie and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Talk Sebby Good afternoon, Happy Friday, Welcome back into the
show for our last hour.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
And that's my favorite hour of the week on Met
and Tyler Afternoons on News Talk s EDB because we
announce the new Zealander of the Week coming up next,
and we have a top call tunes as well. I'll
play a tune on a topic Tyler plaid tune on
the topic oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
first of three wins. I'm currently sitting five to one up.
I believe what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
I believe?

Speaker 22 (01:19:19):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
For wow, you've got the whee teally there, but yeah,
very much, I believe very much. Looking forward to that
now before we get there. I want to talk about printers.
And I so want to talk about printers because I
heard Mike Costkins show this morning and it wasn't meant
to be part of the show. I could tell that,
but it was coming out of an air break and
you just hear Mike muttering and screaming under his breath,
and I think Glenn has produced. He had to say, Mike,

(01:19:40):
you get a show to do, will you stop mucking
around with that printer? And he was so angry. He
was angry at the printer. He was smacking the thing.
He was angry at his producer Sam, who had come
in to try and fix the printer for Mike. But
it had me thinking as I heard Mike yelling at
the printer, I thought, go Mike, because I hate printers
with a vengeance.

Speaker 24 (01:19:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
They are the worst appliance, not just in the office
of all time. I swear Hewlett Packard and Brother they
designed these things just to muck around with humanity.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Yeah, I was thinking when you were say this before
over a coffee, I was thinking, is there any more
appliance that's more consistently annoying than a printer? In terms
of the ink running out paper, running out the communication.
I mean, I've been working at this company z ME
for a long time, well over a decade, and I
still have no access to any printing here. And when

(01:20:27):
I moved up to ZB, I said, can I get
some access? They're still trying to get me access to
that printer there that was driving Mike crazy this morning.
Printers that I cannot think. I wonder if anyone else
out there nineteen nine two eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is there another appliance that is regularly used that
is so incredibly annoying. And I actually read this thing
that will drive you crazy about printers. So there's a

(01:20:49):
certain brand of printer. I won't say who they are,
but this happens a lot across the board where there's
two prices of printer. Yep, they've actually got the exact
same tech, except for the cheaper one has an additional
chip added to it that slows it down, so they're
just as good. So you the actual the cheaper printer
has actually got more in it because it is designed

(01:21:09):
and they have to add to it to slow it down.
So there's two prices of printer.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
See that is dirty cartel behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
That's the kind of dirty operation that printers are running.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
And what is it with the price of ink? Where
does this inc come from? Are they hand squeezing octopi
in the North Atlantic or something? I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Well, buddy, it's the same operation. It's the same operation
that drug dealers use, big Raiser uses, and the printer's used.
They get your hot to the handle and then they
charge your heaps for the blades.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
That's exactly it. I put them up there with this
and the lower cartael these ink cartails evil men, the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Same the drug dealers. The first the first hurt is
free or cheap, and then it gets a lot to speak,
more expensive, so you know, by the printer, and then
keep paying with for the ink through the nose forever.
So yeah, is there is there a worse Is there
a worse suppliance out there than the printer? I seriously
can't think of one that infuriates me more. Potentially ear

(01:22:02):
drop on phones on high phones.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Oh yeah, that's pretty awful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Yeah, that the communication between want one thing and another.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
That never works the way that you think it's gonna work.
If you watched that movie Office Space, Yeah, you know
the scene when they all get in and they finally
get the printer and they take it out to a
field and they get the baseball bats and just go
to town on this printer. I dream about that scene
that to me, I might go half with Mike Coskin
smash that printer. Now, Idar, maybe I will have We
got baseball bats.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
In here asking how to go, and he worked it
over this morning we finish it off. It's been weakened
up for.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
You, right all right, oh, eight one hundred eighty t
and eighty. We might get the video rolling on that one. Andrew,
we'll find a baseball bat and go to town. Our
printer's the worst office appli It's nine two nine two
is the text number. But right now it is ten
past three.

Speaker 11 (01:22:49):
Zib By.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Every Friday on Matt and Tyler afternoons on news Talk
zid B, we name the New Zealander of the Week,
an honor that we bestow on your behalf to a
newsmaker who has had an outsized effect on our great
and beautiful nation over the previous seven days. As always,
there'll be three nominees, only one winner. And remember, like
the Time magazine Person of the Year, the New Zealander

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of the Week isn't always an agent of good, So
without further ado, the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons
New Zealander of the Week are nominee one, with Coleplantown
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hundred and fifty thousand people this week, lest we forget,
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(01:23:34):
and you're man of the match performance to help New
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and og Chris Martin, you are nominated for New Zealander
of the Week. Who nominee two. They're calling it quits
after nearly forty years and going on tour one last
time with hits like Run, Pacify and Home Again our

(01:23:57):
unofficial national anthem. They have burnt their songs into our
collective consciousness. They're fantastic. We're gonna miss them. She hard.
You are nominated for New Zealander of the Week. Yes,
but there can be only one and the winner is
this is huge, Okay, I hope everyone's ready for this.

(01:24:20):
For having more pace than professional footballers, for the most
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owners so much you wanted to go to work with her.
Captain of the Wellington Woman's Phoenix football team, Annalie Longo's
dog Tiger, whoop you are? Matt and Tyler Afternoons New
Zealander of the Week Adam Tiger? Good dog? Who good doggy?

Speaker 29 (01:24:45):
Tiger?

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Who's a good boarder?

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
And they are all shorts of I is trying to
tempt the canine. I think I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Hard and long Ago reunited with her poach.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
This is indeed the best league in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
It's the biggest topic in the country Right now. My
costumes printer, which sits beside Tyler, is not working properly.
Mike had to go. He tried to smash it out
this morning. Tyler's asked the question, is the printer the
most annoying appliance in the world? Can you think of
another one? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty?

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
It is big news, It is Sean. What do you reckon?

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
Ye mate?

Speaker 15 (01:25:53):
He just quickly.

Speaker 19 (01:25:54):
Marto would have been my New Zylander of the week
without a doubt. Just to love a professional athlete, they'd
still like to have a sneaky cigarette every so often. Yeah,
that's true, true legend Old christ Man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yeah he was, he was nominated. He was unlucky, wasn't he.

Speaker 19 (01:26:13):
Yeah, he was very unlucky.

Speaker 33 (01:26:15):
There you go.

Speaker 19 (01:26:18):
Yeah, my printer drives me nuts.

Speaker 7 (01:26:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (01:26:21):
It's got a mind of its own. Sometimes, you know,
you set the folds up and it's supposed to print
both sides and every side. Often it decides you flick
the button the printed twenty past and only printed on
one side, and drive you that, and I've just wasted
another keen pieces of paper. And then and then it
decides to go to sleep and won't won't connect to

(01:26:42):
your y. You push the print button and it won't print.
You've got to shut everything down. And but he rebooted.
But hey, you guys, you'll know the movie The Castle.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
What a movie, great movie.

Speaker 19 (01:26:57):
One of the best movies of all time. My coffee
went straight to the poor room.

Speaker 15 (01:27:03):
Of course. But but there's a there's.

Speaker 19 (01:27:07):
A scene and there were the lawyer Denis Denudo is
having an absolute patty with his printers, breaking living crappy
out of it. And every time I'm having problems with
my printer. I think about Dennis.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Yes, yeah, yeah, God, that's a great movie. I've got
to watch it again. I don't think i've watched my
shown that to my kids. This is turning into a
printer therapy session. Someone else, I throw it out. There
Is there a more annoying appliance. It's not technically an appliance,
but staplers are pretty god damn annoying.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Yeah yeah, they do my headden. Yeah, Or if you
get the wrong staple, or it gets stuck and you
gotta wedget out, and then you gotta find a pair
of scissors.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Yeah, they're They're terrible, terrible things.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
So Andre, how are you fine?

Speaker 34 (01:27:50):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Are you a fan of the printers?

Speaker 34 (01:27:55):
I'm not for you, but I'm the thing that the
most annoys me as a paper shredder.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Paper shredder, what have you got against paper shredders?

Speaker 34 (01:28:04):
I say, you can spread like eight to ten pages
in the sreder. So you do it, and you've saddled
along really good, norvous Sadden, it's jamed, and you find
you've got about twenty pages jammed inside.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
You're not wrong, You're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
The irs is arriving at your house and you're just
trying to shed everything before they turn up, and you
can't get more than eight through at a time.

Speaker 33 (01:28:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 34 (01:28:28):
So it was a good subject that because something Sny
listened to the radio's reading papers?

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
What a how do you have? Why do you have
to Why do you have to read so much paper?
What's going on?

Speaker 34 (01:28:42):
Just documents from the past?

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
You don't want?

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Yeah, up to you. Thanks so much for you call
Sandra quick couple of texts.

Speaker 23 (01:28:50):
Tier.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
The only thing that has broken more than a printer
is the ice cream machine a McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
I mean, that's become a thing. That is the What
is it with the ice cream machine that McDonald's. Yeah,
it has problems.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
They just don't want to clean it, do they. That
is the suspicion. That is the conspiracy theory. Then it's
not working because I just cleaned the bloody thing and
they don't want to clean it again. Oh really apparently?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
So I see so because I guess you would have
to clean it a lot because it would get disgusting,
wouldn't if you didn't clean it. And so as soon
as you put another ice cream through it, it's when we
coming to the end of the shift or something. Then
you'll have to clean it again.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Smart move. If you work at McDonald's, that is that
the case that you don't want to clean the thing
against you say, oh, it's broken, oh hundred eight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Everything else at McDonald's is so efficient it seems crazy
that there's one one thing they've got that keeps breaking down.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.
It is twenty past.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Three Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty On News Talk ZIB twenty two past three.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
We're talking about printers. Mike Costking, sheares a print with us.
It's causing a lot of problems throughout the day. It's
a huge issue across the country right now. Early is
we're trying to go paperless, but the printer is holding
on and it's causing a lot of problems. To get
a lot of texts coming through. On ninety two, two, nine, nine,
two and eight hundred eighty ten eighty, he is a text.
The most annoying appliance in the world is the radio.

(01:30:12):
When met Heat's on it. I love Tracy, I love Okay.
That's my partner sticks in that three.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Yeah, which she's a smart woman, Tracy isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
That's a that's a trojan horse sticks.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
Now, Tyker, how are you?

Speaker 28 (01:30:25):
I'm good?

Speaker 35 (01:30:26):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Printer. Are they the worst appliance in the.

Speaker 35 (01:30:29):
Office, Well, I would say they are one of the worst,
but they're not the worst. They're just in my opinion,
they're the worst, just solely because I don't see why
I need Magenta.

Speaker 10 (01:30:40):
Ink to print an all black document.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
On such a good point. It won't let you print.
I'm never using any other colors. I just want.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I just want black and white.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
That drives me crazy when I do that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Hang on, I just don't understand why they can't, you know, brother,
for example, that's a good company. You know, there's been
some other nefarious printer companies out there that I won't name,
but come on, I mean, I just want to print
print in black and white.

Speaker 8 (01:31:07):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 28 (01:31:07):
But you know what annoys me almost as much Staples.
I know that they've been talking about before, But what
I'm so annoyed about Staples is that when if you
run out, you can never find the right size staple.
There's always too small or tubaic and you're like, hmm,
I think I've got just the right size for most
stapless and then you come home, you put the staples

(01:31:29):
on the stapler and then you realize, oh no, I
just raised fifteen dollars on the staplers that are two
centimeters too small.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
You're speaking our language, tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Yeah, because you get like there's weird markings like a
twenty six steps six or ten slash.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Five universal staplers. I mean, come on, get with the program.
Staple guns a good time though, Yeah, thank you, tiger.

Speaker 33 (01:31:52):
Don O'm not quite. It's more of a tall one
than appliants. But we did it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
You know.

Speaker 33 (01:32:00):
You you finally get them thread of that you use
them as straight away the cord breaks to press the
bottom down, you get the feed going.

Speaker 29 (01:32:12):
It doesn't work.

Speaker 33 (01:32:14):
Three times and then finally when you run out of cord,
you're going to thread the things. Well, there must be
a simpler way of designing the carousels that they go through.

Speaker 11 (01:32:25):
Just a nightmare, Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
I was going through this just the other day with
the with the with the we eat a cord and
it just kept breaking. It was driving me crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
The line from that, but it's because don you want
to take out everything right when you line for me
and there's a rock or something that gets in the way,
just run the line from and through it and you're right.
Then it takes the cord off and you think, what.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Yeh, I was slamming it up against a bit of concrete,
so it's probably my fault.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Don That's a great one, Jonathan.

Speaker 18 (01:32:50):
How are you good?

Speaker 36 (01:32:52):
Up to you guys, and good thank you. Yeah, we're
going to pay the print of its too. It does
an amazing job because when you think about it, prints
on the paper, what you see on your monitor black
and white or color, and no matter how or mate
or complex set is so and it produces that pretty
much about, you know, in a replica. So I don't

(01:33:17):
know what's going on in there, but it's obviously got
some how it does that, I don't know, but it
does it pretty well. But when it does decide to
go fair, and it's possibly being mentioned already, it's the
paper jam, and then it gives you an indication of
where it is, and then you end up pulling out
all the trays and then you've got to finger inside

(01:33:40):
and not try and touch the drum because it's hot.
And yeah, and I've been I've just walked away from
it sometimes and said sorry, I can't help. So, yeah,
it's the paper jam and you literally have to pull
the whole thing apart try and find it. I still
can't find anything. You pull all the trays back and
then you haven't going to go and move paper jam

(01:34:03):
play for.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
And you get the paper out, and then you close
it all up and you think, good to go, and
it's still saying there's a jam. There's not a jam.

Speaker 36 (01:34:11):
I've got the papers actually, and you've you've just built
that in into the program just to you know, basically
wind you up, brother, and one other those one l if.
I've got our little little little chip in there saying,
you know, I'll just have a paper dream party.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
The more I think about it, Jonathan, the more I'm
adamant printers are just a social experiment to see how
far humans will go before they just absolutely break and
go postal.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
This is an interesting text here. Stapless staples are awesome
using the food industry. I've never heard of a stapless staple.
How does the stapless staple work? Ye don't know what
what are you stapling? If there's no staple? What? What
what comes out of a stateless staple? This is this
is peak my interest?

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Yeah, I have to find this out Google that. Yeah, James,
how are you?

Speaker 12 (01:34:57):
Yeah? The may of my life when I was working
in the was the office copier, especially the digitally more
modern digital ones with when you could you know, choose
different you know, sort paper out, you know, I forget

(01:35:18):
what they call it now, but trying to line up
the bits of paper, the especially when you're trying to
pay the copy of single page off off a book,
you trying to line it up. And then you got
to into the office copy of code because they want
to keep the shaker who's got the paper. And then

(01:35:40):
much like printers, they paper jams too, and that's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
And then scanners came along, James, and they weren't much
better because they never scanned, you know, the right dimensions.
There was always a little bit off center and it
looked ugly. I'm with you, yep, James, you're a good man,
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
The stapleless staple works by punching out tabs that get
folded hanging on there's a stapleless The staple staple works
by punching out tabs to get folded over and pushed
through a tiny slip. The device only works when fastening
up to four sheets of paper. Anymore, in the stack
of tabs is too thick for the stapler to push
through the slip. Wow, a staple of stapler. I see

(01:36:25):
how it works.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
It's a great tech. Yeah, I could see that being
frustrating though. Why well, because if you've got six pages,
then you bug it, don't you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Yeah? Yeah, for for you six page enthusiasts, it's a
problem people like me, they are unto four pages. We
love the staples of stapler.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Yeah, Luke, what does your head?

Speaker 29 (01:36:43):
The first of the song the Home of Weather chat
back as well.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
I needed that thing I was missing missing. I was
missing Jerry at that point.

Speaker 12 (01:37:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:37:05):
So ink ink it's the first one problem, not the
sense that it's such a small problem that it shouldn't matter.
It's the fact that the third world has got to
fig it out. I worked there in India and there's
an ink guy that comes around. You just call the
ink guy and I might get head hunted by a bigger,
big ink for letting this out. But yeah, and they

(01:37:27):
just come around a little bottle and just squeeze it
into the cartridge. You've got to just peel the sticker back,
squeeze it and fill it up. If you pay them
like a dollar, and you've got your ink done and
away he goes. He's like a little little black market dealer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
That's what we need opened the borders. When we're looking
at immigration and who we want into the country. When
we need to get the ink, the black market ink
dealer isn't here.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Put them on the green list, Redeka, How are you hello? Hello? Printers?
Are they the bane of your life?

Speaker 16 (01:38:01):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:38:01):
Yes, I am a teacher.

Speaker 10 (01:38:03):
Tell me about it.

Speaker 37 (01:38:05):
Well, we actually ask for a special bild from the
printer man so that they can teach us all the
nooks and cranies and all the tricks, and of course
you get it all next day, and then we're stack.

Speaker 38 (01:38:18):
We know all the trades. When the paper gets back
to how to change the thing, from making booklets to
stapling to everything I mean. And then after learning all that,
they tell you all the printer's being upgraded, and we
are like, we're going on strike if you're changing the
printer turn out to opread it.

Speaker 37 (01:38:40):
Oh goodness, no, it's a scary thing, but we have
to learn it.

Speaker 38 (01:38:44):
But once we learn it, we don't want to let
it go.

Speaker 37 (01:38:46):
We don't want to upgrade at all.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Yeah, thank you so much for you call Ridiculous Texas
season nineteen nine two. The printer knows if the document
is on a timeline or deadline, and then there's a
special bressure of that. When the software won't work, it
needs an update. That's true. A printer does know when
you need it now. Yeah, when you need it soon,
it knows, and it will not print it.

Speaker 18 (01:39:06):
Michael, how do you feel about Hey, guys, have you
seen the movie The Castle sums up printers to a tea?

Speaker 35 (01:39:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Yeah, someone did mention that before and you bang on
the lawyer. What's the lawyer's name again?

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Yeah, I mean that is one of that. If you
haven't watched The Castle out there, I mean it's a
film from nineteen ninety seven, but it holds up. It's
one of the greatest films of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
The Kerigans is that the name of the family. Garrel's
the patriarch.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Yeah. Yeah, it's made by directed by Rob Search is
just an absolute genius.

Speaker 5 (01:39:39):
Yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
Asler? Great saying thank you Michael, and one more, Craig.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
Know how's the game?

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Good office equipment talk to us.

Speaker 23 (01:39:55):
I used to work in it, and a lot of
things would have been in my life, especially people uploading
holiday photos and putting viruses under the server. That used
to really are nice. But your printers were. We used
to service them and they were quite interesting. You have
to get people will go it's not working, and you
go and have a look at it, and yeah, but
the worst one we ever had was a mechanic company
in Hamilton here where they said the printer wasn't working,
can you come and have a look. We'd have a

(01:40:16):
go try and fix so we can't.

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
Figure it up.

Speaker 23 (01:40:18):
So I turn up there and there's like a thousand
pieces on the floor sitting in front of the printer
with a guy who the spanar and book at that
game no, and he goes, I tried to fix it
where all the parts go back, and I'm like, I
just said to the guy, I think you really. But
my bain was people who had a problem with the
printer they decided to fix themselves, the old home handyman
and you go, oh, just pull this out, pull that out,

(01:40:39):
and then we turn up there and it's like I
didn't even didn't even know that part came.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Out, So what you're saying, Craig is the printers are fine,
but humans are idiots. No no, you're not saying that.

Speaker 23 (01:40:55):
No no, no, no, no no, I'm just saying people are.
The printers have got i don't know, sort of sort
of evil chips and or something like that. But the
worst part is when you get people who think they
know what they're doing and pull this thing apart to
try and be helpful and cause a little more of
an issue. But yeah, I've had printers at home, even
where it says like one of the countries empty, so
I've changed the characters, put the whole thing back together,

(01:41:16):
and you just about a print a page and it says, oh,
now the one next sort of empty, and you're like.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
What the yeah, yeah, exactly very much right there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
It wasn't Craig wasn't saying that printers are awesome and
people are idiots.

Speaker 17 (01:41:27):
He wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
He kuind was was He wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number
to call it is twenty six minutes to four.

Speaker 11 (01:41:40):
You talk the headlines with.

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(01:42:03):
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(01:42:23):
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Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Thank you very much. Raylene.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Now, while I was talking to a producer before in
our management in New Tyler and you were saying, could
you you went to see Coplow you would you do
a review of the concert?

Speaker 9 (01:43:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Please?

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
And I said, no, I will not do that because
I've already done it. I did it on the My
Costing breakfast show yesterday, said and work smarter, not harder.
I'm not going to double down and double hand on it,
so I think. So I said, let's just play the
one that I did with my costing. It's it's the
perfect review of the concert.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Okay, Well, let's have a listen, eh, what is your
concert experience?

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
How many concerts you reckon? You've been to? Roughly, I
think I've been just thousands of concerts all over the world.
I think you okay, so more than most.

Speaker 13 (01:43:39):
Okay, So you got good cred as a concert Then
from your thousands of concerts you've gone to, where would
you rank this one?

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Having seen them for the first time? Look, before I
went in there, you know I knew Coldplayer buts and
I knew this songs, but I wasn't like an album listener,
go to set snower kind of thing. And I always
found Chris Martin flatly punishable, as you know, a talented band,
but there was sort of a punishable vibe out of
it around him. But after watching that concert, I'd follow
that guy into battle. He's one of the greatest fun

(01:44:05):
men I've ever seen. He's up there with Freddy Mercury
and Mick Jagger. He's all dancing, all singing. Just the
presence is quite phenomenal. How much would you pay? I
was thinking about that, and I was also standing there
thinking typical of me not to have paid, but I
think it would be worse. I don't know how much

(01:44:25):
of the ticket star because I never paid for tickets.

Speaker 24 (01:44:27):
I would say worth it would be worth four hundred dollars.

Speaker 13 (01:44:30):
Wow, I don't think they were worth four hundred dollars,
don't I never pay for tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
He lives in a different world from US folks, So.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
A couple of things there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
I certainly do. I live in a different world from
a much higher slon than my cost ging.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
So on the back of saying in that review that
Chris Martin had a punishable vibe about him. The manager
of Coldplay has got in touch with you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Well, no, you're adding an extra little bit there, Tyler.
The management of Coldplay have gotten in touch with me
after that interview, because you know that's a truncated version
of it. I talked about the spectrolical of it. I
talked about the wristbands that are all GEO located, so
there's mess just come through the fireworks. The whole spectacle
is phenomenal. I talked about that. So I got listen

(01:45:15):
to this. This this is what I got.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
Yeah, here we go, Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Hi, Matt Hope you're well. Chris from Coldplays management. Here
we heard your kind words about the band's first Eden
Park show on news Talks. He'd be would love to
invite you back for tomorrow tonight or tomorrow night's show
as the band's special guests. Wow, if you're around and

(01:45:38):
you're going to go, I said, nah, No, I said yes,
I'd love to.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Kid to meet the band potentially.

Speaker 24 (01:45:46):
You don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Look, I mean we're reading between the line, s heat,
what do we say here? We would love to invite
you back as the bands the band's special guest. So
I mean, I don't know, people might be able to
what would you read? I feel like that means I'm
going to best mates at the band forever and potentially
get us to go and talk with them.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
I think so. Or do you think you know? Because
you made those comments and you're right, you did say
that it was one of the best concerts you've ever
been to, and you've been to thousands. Yeah, but maybe
Chris Martin wants a bit of a word.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Yeah, well maybe. And look, it's not just Chris Martin.
The band's also Johnny Buckland and world champion and Guy
Berryman you know, yeah, no, I mean in Phil Havy.
There's a lot of members of the band.

Speaker 22 (01:46:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Yeah, Well, looking forward to hearing that story next week. Mate, Right,
it is time for Topical Tunes. This is the part
of the show where Matt and I each pick a
song related to a theme of the week. First to
three votes via phone oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty wins.
Winners get to start first, met or joant me to
start first.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
As you start, let's give you a chance because you're
on the on the back foot here. I am on
the back foot, right, so I'd love to see you
do better.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
Now, I reckon, I know what you've gone for here.
But before we get to yours, this is my pitch.
We're having a good chat about gen Z on Tuesday.
Apparently they're lazy, they don't want to put on a
full day of work, and it got into a bit
of a generational warfare situation. You didn't like millennials. Gen
X got a free pass, the Boomer's got some stick,
and certainly gen Z got some sticks. So I've picked

(01:47:18):
my generation.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Will say I have a die before I get Old's
big pushing eighty now so absolute tune that I'm getting
a lot of stick on the text machine nine two
nine two about not giving those tickets away because I've

(01:47:46):
already been, And to that, I say, sorry, I'm going anyway.
There's no there's probably no surprises. What band I'm going
to play a song from? As I was saying before,
the Coldplay concert was just so good. I didn't you know.
I'm not an album listening cole player. I didn't know
all you know. I don't know every one of these songs,
but they've just got so many hits that when you're

(01:48:09):
at the concert you sing along. It's it's so such
a great concert. And I mean it's ridiculous to say
if you're a Coldplay skeptic like some people are, because
they've sold one hundred and fifty thousand tickets in Auckland.
So if you're a cold Play skeptic and you say
they're not a very good band, then you know you're
you are in the minority. I think they're a great band,
and they're a fantastic life band. So so I eight

(01:48:36):
hundred eighty ten eighty Is it Viva Lavida by Coldplay?
Or is it whatever your song player can.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
My generation by the who you know what to do?
I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you want to teach through. You're
more than welcome as well. Nine two nine two the
first of three takes it Our, Get on the phones.
It is sixteen minutes to four, the.

Speaker 4 (01:49:02):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between. That Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty
twenty four US Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
Right topical tunes, here's my song today?

Speaker 24 (01:49:14):
Age is this?

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Because you're from the worst generation, the millennial?

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
I know you hate millennials. But genicks, So what do
you get a free pasty? Anyway? My generation? By the who?

Speaker 5 (01:49:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:49:25):
And mine?

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Is this from Coldplay? Viva Lavida? Such a great concert.
When I went on Wednesday, going again on Saturday, I
didn't know it was such a huge Coldplayer fan till
I went along. If you're going tonight, the weather is
not so great out there in Auckland, so get yourself
a poncho. You will be warmed by the quality of
the show.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Oh you're good?

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Eighty?

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Is it my generation or viava livida?

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
Sarah? How are you?

Speaker 33 (01:49:53):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 27 (01:49:55):
I reckon?

Speaker 24 (01:49:56):
It's Coldplay all the way?

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
Did you get to go along to the concert? Oh? Sorry,
all right?

Speaker 24 (01:50:03):
Saday?

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
What going all right today? Well I might see you
this sound like you had a car accident, so.

Speaker 11 (01:50:08):
We'll you go.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Thank you, Sarah. Colin, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
How are you good? What do you reckon? Who's your
vote for?

Speaker 23 (01:50:15):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Colin?

Speaker 15 (01:50:17):
I'm sorry guys, it's going to be cold Playing all
the way.

Speaker 5 (01:50:20):
Good on you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
You got the same name as my dog and you
voted for me. I think I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Colin Kushler, who you're voting.

Speaker 10 (01:50:26):
For, oh, for my generation?

Speaker 15 (01:50:28):
Bug?

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
Yeah, you just made it interesting. I always liked you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Bochler.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
If you one, If you can't get through I eighte
hundred and eighty ten eighty, keep trying, Lisa, who you're
voting for?

Speaker 10 (01:50:38):
Hey, yeah, Tyler, I'm voting for you my generation.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
I was going to roll it out if you're voting
for Tyler because it's not in competition, but.

Speaker 36 (01:50:48):
That if you do get to talk to Chris, give
him a kiss for me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
Oh nice, right on the list on the lips. This
is from Lisa.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
I think this is it. It's all down to James.

Speaker 12 (01:51:00):
Call them about my generation MATEO.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
Yeah, boy, James, you're a good man. Oh who would
have thought?

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Who would have thought? So that makes it five two
overall competition.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
He's coming back, he's coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Well it's a fantastic song, so I'm not too angry
about it. All right, I can't crack its.

Speaker 11 (01:51:27):
Doing show Baptie before get old general.

Speaker 35 (01:51:42):
Why don't you.

Speaker 11 (01:51:46):
Don't shop dig right? We asked say trying to calls
a big sensortion.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
She's talking er salation, but.

Speaker 24 (01:52:31):
Don't jump fair with.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Don't jap pick what we all.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Shot out fixed sensation.

Speaker 10 (01:52:45):
She's talking about my generation, my generation.

Speaker 22 (01:52:58):
Jewish Jelish.

Speaker 37 (01:53:05):
The job put us to say, just the cars we
can get around.

Speaker 6 (01:53:15):
The right song.

Speaker 11 (01:53:24):
It is a good song.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
I needed that. I needed that when But.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
Who aren't playing in an Auckland tonight? Are they?

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
So Coldplay wins in the end because fifty thousand people
are going to see them in Aukland tonight. I'm going
to take those fifty thousand votes.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
You hold on to that, right.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
It is nine to four, the big stories, the big issues,
the big trends and everything in between. Mat Heath and
Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US talk.

Speaker 11 (01:53:52):
Said, b dead bos.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
Talk to be Dancy water Graves in studio. Get a
dance you can't help it?

Speaker 22 (01:53:58):
Can you drag me back in here a gig?

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
We love you?

Speaker 19 (01:54:01):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Wow, there's been this huge news, isn't there? Black Caps
veteran Tim Southey to retire after Test series against to England.

Speaker 39 (01:54:08):
Well he is a veter and he's been playing for
like seventeen eighteen seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
Mat, Yeah, I mean as stats don't lie. The second
most Test wickets ever for New Zealander after the great
Richard Hadley, how do you think, tim so, how that
you'll be remend remembered And do you think it's his
time to lead podium?

Speaker 39 (01:54:25):
Dice right up there with the top handful two three
players to play for the black Caps. As far as
bowling is concerned, playing me Paddles is at the very top.
He's not going to go past Sir Richard Hadley. But
when you look at consistency, longevity, and that's stunning to
me that he's managed to last so long without falling apart,
because fast bowling not easy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
Yeah, I actually talked to him about this at one point.
He was saying that the COVID break actually helped him
elongate his career because if you're a fast bowler, you're
always got injuries. You're always just dealing with injuries you
go through, You're always hurting.

Speaker 22 (01:54:58):
But I don't think he's a fast, fast bowler though,
so he don't break.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Himself what some of those guys do, not like Lucky
Ferguson gets a breaks down.

Speaker 22 (01:55:06):
You know what he is though, he's a.

Speaker 39 (01:55:07):
Very skilled bowler. He knows exactly what he can do
and how to do it. Puts the ball in the
right place knows how to swing the ball, he knows
his limitation to keeps himself.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
And great, you know, the greatest bowling partnership in New
Zealand history with Trent Bolt.

Speaker 22 (01:55:22):
Now, hold on, hold on, hold on, you and Chatfield
and Sir Richard Hadley.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Yeah, well old school, but you and Chatfield. Richard Hadley
was doing a lot of the brilliant in that foil.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
It's very important, very good. Also the All Blacks of course,
or do you want to do your top three?

Speaker 6 (01:55:39):
Now?

Speaker 22 (01:55:39):
I don't mind. You're the boss of this show mate,
I'm just the guy sitting on the wrong side of
the chair.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
He ever us your top three for the weekend?

Speaker 10 (01:55:46):
Us.

Speaker 39 (01:55:46):
I'm pretty keen on watching the fine round of the
Supercars at Adelaie because Adelaide is such a wonderful street circuit.
It's been far too much time lying around on the
track there that there's photographic evidence of me on my
bum collapsed girt at the end of the Supercars season.
So I'll definitely be watching some of that tonight, even
though I'll have to watch some of it off tape

(01:56:06):
because I start working, you know, seven or seventh, the
All Whites are playing Vanawatu and the qualify.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Looking forward to that well.

Speaker 22 (01:56:13):
The main thing is Chris Wood's playing and the team
is looking stacked as well. And of course ten past
nine on Sunday Morning viv La France.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
Yeah, AB's versus France with Elliott Smith with a call indeed.

Speaker 22 (01:56:27):
And I believe Gregor Paul will be helping them out too.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
On News Talk ZEDB, love right, thank you so much
for listening today, Thank you for coming in twice c
and may give him a taste of Kiwi.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
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