Full Show Podcast: 18 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hell are you Great, New Zealanders? You're listening to the
Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast for Monday, the eighteenth of
November twenty twenty four. Hell of a show today, Huge issues.
We went deep into junk food at tuch shops. Someone
wants to make all the Touch shops in New Zealand
seventy five percent green. I say good luck to you.

(00:37):
No kid will line up for that. Also, we talked
about something else in the first hour. I completely forgot.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Whats versus you got, Harry. We learned a lot of
stuff in that out.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, we went deep into the ramifications of being a
taxi driver and Ubi driver around the one hundred and
seventy dollars that a mother and son from Sydney were
charged to go from Coldplay at Eden Park thirteen K's
to Titarangy Village. So that got pretty heated and that
was a good, good chat. And then finally we got
stuck into the Mike Tyson and Jake Paul fight and

(01:05):
the undercards and went into the whole thing of concussions
and also what's wrong with us as humans? And what's
wrong with me that I love the Blood Sports so much.
It's a great show. I hope you enjoy it. Yeah,
so anyway you seem busy, we'll let you go and
give them a taste.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Kiwi talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor
Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four News Talk Zibby.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Welcome into the show. Happy Monday to you. Hope you're
doing well. We're if you're listening and you had a
fantastic weekend. But I could almost guarantee that your weekend
wasn't quite as phenomenal as Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, mine was pretty good. But I don't want to
show off. I don't want to tell the story about
meeting Coldplayer. I don't really want to go into it,
you know, but let's just say good things happen to
good people.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Where was Hoskins and Vitell?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
He's asking, Okay, well, I will tell the story then
if you press me.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm twisting your arm.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
If everybody wants to know if people look, so many
people are twisting my arm. On nineteen nineteen, so I
did my glowing review of the Colbe concert from Wednesday
on the Mike Costing Breakfast show, and Chris Martin heard
the review, so he got management to reach out to me.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Wait, hang on, Chris Martin himself was listening to My
Costing Breakfast and heard at life.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm not sure he consumed the content somehow, and through
a series of people, they tracked me down and invited
me along to the show. And I thought on Saturday,
and I thought, oh, that's very very nice of them.
I thought I was just going along to the show
to see it with free tickets. Me and my partner,
we went along. We were really happy. Lived near Eden Parks.
We wandered down and then found out that we had
friends and family invites, so then we were in the

(02:45):
friends and family but before the show, and that was good.
Members of the band were mingling around, and then I
met a lovely member of the management team, also called Chris,
and I had a great chat with him, and then
I thought we'd just going along to things. And then
at the end he goes, hey, the band want to
meet you. And so this was just before the show,
so they lead me backstage. Me and Tracy backstage. We

(03:06):
go the area just before they tunnel, before they run
onto the stage, and it's like an army back there
putting that show together. Because the show is incredible and
there's so many moving parts, so there's people, so much
Edmund going on, you know, so many logistics going on.
So we stand there and then I thought, we're just
going to watch the band go on stage. So then
the band come out, and then Chris Martin comes up

(03:27):
to me and he gives me a big hug and
he goes whispers in my ear and I tell you what,
that guy's quite. He's tall, and he's fit.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Good cuddler.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
He's a good cuddler. He's muscular. I think he's got
a yoga body. But anyway, he gives me a cuddle
and he goes. I heard your review and thank you
so much. You know what you said about me was
so good and it rarely meant a lot. And you know,
I believe and if people do good things and say
good things, I want to and put love out into
the world. I wanted to come back in so I

(03:56):
wanted to invite you here and I just wanted to
say thank you to you personally. I said, oh, thank
you so much.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And then he goes, would you like to well, would
you do something with me? And I said sure, anything,
you know, you're a superstar. Chris Martin didn't say that,
but whatever he wanted me to do, I was going
to do. So he pulled me over and the band
and the band and backing up backup singers. I'm got
in a circle around and it's obviously a thing they

(04:21):
do before each show, and he and then he called
over my partner as well, and he said come over here, Tracy,
come over here as well. And then we got into
the scrum, into the huddle beforehand and he goes, this
is Matt Heath and his partner Tracy, and he wrote
a fantastic review and they were like, yeah, they read it,
thank you so much. And they all said thank you.
And then they were like, okay, this is what we do.

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And then he said some words about you know, beautiful
sort of words, hype up the band words, and we
will put our hands into the middle real and went
way and then he said thank you again, gave me
a hug, and ran on stage and then we were
handed balloons and we were sent around the side to
the front of the audience and we're throwing the balloons

(05:03):
out into the audience, although I think I missed up
the throwing of the balloons. At some point I was
I need to duck down. Anyway, there was a few
people doing that, and then we were led in to
watch the show from from from a very very good
seats that were sort of a couple of a couple
of seats away from Chris Martin's dead.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And what was going through your head?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, it was. It was so surreal and what was
really good because there was no cameras back there, so
it wasn't one of those situations where you meet a
star and you're trying to get something from them like
a photo or a signature. It was just a real
genuine experience and he had a really good chat to me,
and you could just tell this is a really good
guy that really preaches what he loves. What he preaches

(05:43):
you know about you know, you know that the love
you make is equal to the love you take kind
of situation.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
The review was glowing, no doubt about that, and if
you want to listen to it, you can get it
on week on demand on the Zibe website. But there
was part of that review where and you mentioned Mike
that you you thought Chris might have been a bit
of a punishable character.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
To that, I started my review by saying, you know,
I'm a cynical guy, and you know, I always knew
Chris Martin was talented, but there's some sort of a
slight punishable nature about him. And he did mention that.
He said, he said, I loved your review, even though
he's described me as punchable at the start, But then
I see it after seeing him live. And I've always
loved their music. Music's fantastic, But after seeing them live,
I said in the review, I would follow this guy

(06:23):
into battle. And I would follow that guy into battle.
I think he's one of the best front men I've
ever seen. And people see that's crazy to say that
he's up there with Mick Jagger and Freddie Mercury, even
though they're very different frontmen, and now I stand by it.
He can hold the fifty thousand people in the palm
of their hands and everyone's smiling, and the guy can
sing like nothing else. Yeah, it's incredible, you know, and

(06:45):
the band's fantastic. So that was a really good experience.
And then we had took us for the after party.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
How was that?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
That was a good time.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, how long were you there?

Speaker 5 (06:52):
For?

Speaker 6 (06:52):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
There for ages, just ripped it up deep into the night.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah you're and Chris Martin, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
No, not so much. I actually went home but early.
But you know, my son's just turned eighteen and somehow
he'd got an invite there, so you know, he was.
It's kind of weird to be.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
How the hell are the he's getting indes?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
But it was a special it was a special experience
and it was great to see, you know, you know,
the sort of backstage workings of an incredible band. So
and look, Chris Martin, what a top bloke.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Okay, good things happen to good people. As you say,
you see you started here at News Talks MB and boom,
you're part of the crowd. Now, great story. Right after
the break, we want to have a chat about taxis
so great story in the Hero today, multiple stories coming
to the four about a particular taxi company ripping people off.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah that was leaving the Coldplay concert, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah. So oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty love to
hear from you. There's been where there was a good
interview on with Mike Hoskin this morning from one of
the taxi associations who said that you should be negotiating
the price before you jump in the cap. So really
keen to hear from you about stories where you've been overcharged.
What happened? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

(08:01):
number to call. Excuse me? Nine two ninety two is
the text number. It is thirteen past one.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between. Mat Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you for
twenty twenty four US talk said.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Be sixteen past one. We're talking about taxis.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
A mother and son visiting from Sydney were charged one
hundred and seventy bucks for a taxi from the Coldplay
concert at Eden Park to Titardani Village, which is around
thirteen kilometers. And you know people are talking about this
and how you get a taxi and you get charged
and for me it's overcharged. And you know everyone's got
a story where they're being taken on a bit of

(08:42):
a trip when they don't know where they are in
other cities, and before Uber that was the case, you
thought it a city and you had to just risk it. All,
you had no idea how much would cost you check
before you arrive, when you go, how much should I
expect to pay from the airport to town or whatever.
But that's why I take ubers all the time now.
And I don't feel great about this because I know
that the company Uber and there's problems with the gig economy.

(09:04):
But the great disruptor of Uber was you knew exactly
what the fear was going to be before you got
in the taxi. You knew that it was an incentive
for them to not only be provide a good cab
so they go to you know, get five stars, but
also to take the shortest route to get there. Yeah,
because they're getting paid a fear that's been decided, and

(09:24):
that will surge to a huge price if there's a
lot of people going around. But yeah, I'm just interested
to hear what you think about this. I mean it
has been raised that people, you know, accommodation and hotels
around around when there's a big event in town, they
charge more.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
They certainly do.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, so why can't Why I can't taxis? But in
the end, you know, do you negotiate before you get
in the taxi or does the taxi owe you to
to charge you a reasonable fear. And are you in
the town where there isn't taxi, where there isn't Uber,
and the taxis are treating you well because because the
thing is, before Uber came along, taxis, would you'd ring

(10:05):
them up, They'd go, taxi will be here at some point.
It could be forty five minutes, you know, and then
you'd stand outside and then it wouldn't turn up, and
you rang up and go, oh yeah that go went home.
It used to be a terrible service, didn't it.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Unsympathetic call center. You'd ring a lady at the call
taxi company and she couldn't care less and you said,
oh the taxi never turned up. Oh, well he should have,
but he's probably got another job. So yeah, another one,
does you?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh we are But And I was in Bristol in Viicago, actually,
and I had that same experience. I was catching a
taxi from a restaurant back to to my accommodation and
I rang up, and really a taxi at this time,
and I said, well they available. I guess they might be.
And I said when will it be? I don't know.
And then I said, can the guy text me when
he's outside. No, he'll turn up. When he turns up,
And I was like, well, that's why you got disrupted

(10:49):
taxis exactly, that's why you got disrupted. And I understand
now the taxi even app but yeah, like to hear
your Uber versus Taxi stories or your your taxis stories.
What you think about this one hundred and seventy dollars
to thirteen K.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Savann, what's your take on the story?

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, before when Jason's the guy something to get a
bigger kid because I yep, yeah, well that's sorry build
in sorry pays it. I mean, yeah, the uber driver
does pay, but the Uber driver against reinmboosted from the customers.
So the sorry built in.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, so sorry, so sorry. I'll just I'll
just catch people up. We were talking to Jason Walls
before and he said that he caught a taxi to
the airport and the airport's dropped him off at a
Burger King and said, no, you walked the last but
it cost me five dollars to get in there. And
you're saying that that five dollars is incorporated into the fear.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yes, yeah, so that that was a bit underhanded. By
that Uber slash taxi driver.

Speaker 8 (11:42):
Yeah, as far as Jason I was called Urban Tom
to reimboost on something like that.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I think he reached out, but I guess. And
that's the thing that immediately came in with Uber was
instant accountability in terms of your star rating and also
your ability to complain. And generally, if you complain, you'll
get your fear to turn back on you. But for
the longest time, taxis didn't have any accountability, did.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
They, No, Savanne Yes, no no.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
And by the way, I've given I've given one of
you guys right to go these books for the hierarchy. Yeah, yeah,
you're pretty cool, cap mate.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh thanks, buddy, appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
You're a good man, savant. Thank you very much. Rupin,
how are you hold on?

Speaker 9 (12:23):
Phone?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
System's going a bit crazy? Got you now? Rupin?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
You're an ex taxi driver, Yes.

Speaker 10 (12:28):
Yes, an ex texture driver. And you know before I
should have text we had a fair schedule and the
phrase how many kilometer as you go? Now it's just crazy.
Anybody just puts the Taxis sign on the top, becomes
a Texis er, and he just pleased himself to change
whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, so if you go for one of the really normally,
if you go for one of the really established firms,
you will have pricing. That's that's that's put on, you know,
a sign and the taxi. But then you get these
these taxi drivers that look like they've got the sign
off wish or temo and they just put it on
the roof. And those people you're saying, can just make
up the price.

Speaker 10 (13:04):
Yeah, let's make it the phrase, they're not fair schedule.
If you should have done by some bridges. He was
the one who'd get this taxi in justice down to ship.
He's changed the law so anybody can just get a
pee endorsement and just drive taxis out any fair schedule.
If we just grab a texti on the concert and
you live Walut or something, you can't bring anybody there.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Why can't they get rid of the meta reader's rup
And that's what I keep going back to. They all
use the meter readers. Why why can't they just negotiate
figure out roughly what it's going to cost them that
they can make a profit. Surely they could do that.

Speaker 10 (13:41):
I know they can't do that. But when I'm saying
this is no law, is this is no right, no
law as all.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, so so can anyone? I mean, I don't know,
I should look this up. So you're saying that anyone
that puts a taxi sign on their roof can be
a taxi driver.

Speaker 10 (13:55):
Now the endorsement with a Pea endorsement, that's it. He
just got princess wholf. You see all these people just
sitting there, just a sign on top, and you get
higher a taxi to the airport. Were laptop inside? And
whom we're going to ring? You don't know who we
had to rings go?

Speaker 11 (14:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, there's not the way. There's not the way of
finding out who to complain to. Rubn Do you know
why those taxi drivers that are running those things just
putting the sign on and they're not part of a
wider company, why they aren't becoming Uber drivers?

Speaker 10 (14:25):
So law has been changed to shoot shoot the text
anybody can drive. And also the law was changed to
shoot the Uber company. Right, just the change with someone bridges.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes, what what did you get out of the taxi industry? Rubin?

Speaker 10 (14:43):
I no longer try, but I used to drive for
discount textis is right?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah? And why did you get out of the industry.

Speaker 10 (14:49):
So unfortunately the company cursed old men pastorayh.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Well, thank you very much
for Uper. And you know the other thing that annoyed
me about the taxis and sorry to abuse taxis so much,
but when you lost something within a taxi, it would
take you a week to try and track the thing
down because you drink the cool seat and then you
get the the corset. The lady he wasn't very friendly
in the first place, and say, well, what text you
you win?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I had a skinful. I don't know what taxi I
was at. Was Oh that doesn't help me. I know
it doesn't, but I've got my phone summer in one
of your taxis.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah. I mean that's why the taxi industry was so
ripe for disruption by Uber. And as I say, I
always catch ubers now if I can. But that's not
really an endorsement of the Uber company. It's an endorsement
of the changes they made in terms of being able
to see when the text is going to arrive, things
like that, know exactly who your driver was, being able
to look at their record and such.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah. You mentioned before the small towns which do just
have taxis? Uber aren't in the small towns, and the
Texa came through. We've got one taxi driver in our
small town and he's an absolute legend. We don't want
Uber here. We'll find out where that small town is.
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. It is twenty three past one.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the Mike asking breakfast.

Speaker 12 (16:06):
Some concerns around the process of charge schools. The Associate
Education Ministry is, of course David Seymore, who is so
the concern appears to come from Olwen Pool, who of
course is a seasoned campaigner in the wonderful world of
charter schools.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Does he have a point?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
No, he doesn't. The only point that has fell is
that there were seventy eight applications and in the budget
we only have money for fifteen, so they were always
going to be people who were disappointed.

Speaker 12 (16:29):
Is there a possibility that the demand will meet the
supply eventually?

Speaker 7 (16:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
I think as people see these charter schools work, and
as they become a more normal part of Newseum, and
I think you'll see more existing state schools.

Speaker 12 (16:41):
Convert back tomorrow at six am the mic asking Breakfast
with Mainy's real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
We're talking taxis are from Other and Son visiting Sydney
with charge one hundred and seventy bucks for taxi thirteen
k from Coldplay to Tetarangi Village got a through Texia
nineteen nine two. Uber has nearly killed the taxi industry,
and taxis drivers are desperate to make money anyway they can. Yeah. Look,
I'm not saying that Uber is a great company, but
I'm just saying that taxis are. You know, you're less

(17:11):
likely to get ripped off by Uber as the as
the passenger ian. Your thoughts on this. You've had a
bad experience with the taxi in Auckland.

Speaker 13 (17:18):
Yeah, Hi, My wife and I have been members of
Eden Park for a very long time, and we would
leave one of our vehicles close to Eden Park in
the day of a game, and then we'd get a
taxi to eden Park and then jump into our car
and buger off afterwards. And we started booking our taxis
online in the morning for say six point fifteen or

(17:38):
six twenty and sometimes they just you know, they were
late and that, and then there was a big game.
I think it was the Lions tour, and we were
standing outside and getting really worried the taxi hadn't turned up.
And we rang up and said, hey, we're waiting for
our taxi, you know, and they said, oh, are very busy,
and my wife said, well, we booked this at seven

(18:02):
o'clock this morning for a specific time, expect you to
be here. And they said, well, that doesn't make any difference.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
It's just tough.

Speaker 13 (18:11):
So we said, we said, shove it up.

Speaker 11 (18:14):
Your you know what.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
And then we went and got a neighbor to take
us because we'd been very loyal to taxis being a
local business, and I said, not using Uber, I'm supporting
local business. So our neighbor took us up and we
walked home, and then the next day we both downloaded
the Uber app and we've never got a taxi since.

Speaker 14 (18:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well that's the thing, isn't it. And as I said before,
that's why Uber disrupted the taxi industry so so heavily,
because you know, if you book that that on Uber,
you would be able to see that it was coming.
And now that some of the big taxi firms do
have Uber like apps, so you can book and you
can see and you can track it. But yeah, I
mean those kind of experiences with taxis. We lift us

(18:55):
our taste in people's mouths and they were so ready
to change.

Speaker 11 (18:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (18:58):
Yeah, a thing we do with Uber. We don't know
if we give the guy a tip on the on
the bill as they get it, or how much they get,
so we don't do a tip. We give them a
tip in cash in the car.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh do you Yeah, because I've tried to do that
before and they've said they're not allowed to take it, right,
But I and they take your tips, do they?

Speaker 13 (19:22):
No one's refused.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I must have been the.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Most I must be having the most honest the driver
and thank you very much. Well. The tip is an
interesting thing because I always tip my Uber drivers because
I want them to get paid well. But you're also
on the flip side of it. You're like, Uber should
be paying them so well that we don't need to
tip them.

Speaker 15 (19:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
But I love to talk to my uber uber drivers
and you know, learn stuff about people because I read
in a book that was a good thing to do,
and by the end of it, I normally like the
person and I'll give them a tip. Yeah, if you
just gave them the cash that would because I don't
know people might know, do Uber take a cut of
the tip.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I've eavily given cash before, actually pretty recently. And I
said that may had lost her phone in the uber
and we had to go track it down. And as
soon as we found the guy, I'm sure I turned
up with twenty bucks because I just thought, and I
know we had to drive to him and all the
rest of it, but I thought, hey, the fact that
he stayed home and waited for us at a particular time,
that was pretty good, and I gave him a twenty
for that.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I think it's always you're always expected to give some
money if you go and get it. In fact, I
felt like when I've lost phones, they've said that it'll
cost you fifty bucks. Yeah, fifty bucks, and I'll put
it in your letter box.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
But just general tap, how much would you give? Are
we saying ten percent of the fair or.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
And the uber? There's there's options, there's three, five, ten, Yeah,
I think it is. Yeah, I'll always give ten percent. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, and if they do something terrible to me
on the.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
TI oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call love to hear from you on this one.
It is bang on one p thirty.

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Speaker 3 (22:08):
Thank you very much, Raylean, and we are talking about
taxis versus ubers. Do you no longer use taxis? This
is on the back of several people over the weekend
coming forward to say that they got severely ripped off
after getting a taxi ride.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, and of course not every town in New Zealand
has uber and this is and look, we don't want
to keep putting the boot into taxis if we don't
need to. And here's a great example here, Hi part
upon Umu taxis. They are wonderful drivers. There was an
automatic text that said your taxi is two minutes away,
get ready. And once when I was delayed by a
phone call, the driver came to my door to make

(22:42):
sure I was okay. They drove me regularly to visit
my husband in age residential care, and when he died,
they left magnificent flowers at the front door. March. So
there you go. Yet to come on to umu taxi's
good on you, and we've got the text here. Nope,
it's disappeared, all right.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Okay, remember the days when, and this was in small towns,
the days where you'd get a taxi ended up being
a good bug and he'd give you the card and say,
whatever time you finish your night, give me your buzz,
give me a text, Oh, come and get you. Yeah,
I miss those days. They were good days.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, yeah, they used to do that.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I'll be back later, yeah, yeah, Dave, how were you?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (23:20):
Good, guys, how are you?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Good? What's your view on the textis?

Speaker 16 (23:25):
Oh, just a quick because I've only just sort of
clicked on, so I've only just sort of heard what
you're talking about. But some don't know whether it's sort
of come to fruition on your conversation. But have you
guys heard of the diddy?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
The did he?

Speaker 16 (23:38):
The did he? So good?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Saying it very essentially, but what is the Diddy?

Speaker 16 (23:45):
Well, it's kind of so what was the other one?
So there's uber and then there was what was the
other one?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Omar or ola olah yeahla.

Speaker 16 (23:53):
Yeah, so then so did he? There's a new one
and I think it's a nausey, but they they pay
their their drivers. Well, they take a five percent commission,
whereas Uber takes like twenty seven percent or something.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
So right, so the.

Speaker 16 (24:09):
Drivers are getting paid a hell of a lot more
with the Diddy. But then no one really knows about
the diddy. So let's get the diddy out there, let's.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Get that, let's get the ditty out. It's a diddy party,
yeah for the diddy. Yeah, because that's the thing I
was saying before that you know, Uber disrupted their market
because because it offered a better thing for passengers. But
at the same time, it's not necessarily and I'd like
to hear from Uber drivers where whether it is you know,
the experience in that kind of situation. But we've got

(24:38):
the thing now where I always give a tip because
I want to make sure that the driver gets paid.
But then you're going, well, Uber, shouldn't you paying your
drivers properly?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think Ola was the other one
that Dave mentioned. I think they actually went under. They
closed pretty reach.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Well, Well, this is what Uber does because Uber's the
big dog in the in the in the situation and
in whatever city there is, So if someone comes in,
they just lower their fears and up their promotion until
they wipe the other competitors out. That's that's how they
do it.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
James, you have made a few mistakes in the uber app.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
See how are we going?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
He could could.

Speaker 9 (25:13):
So I was in Milford, had a couple of venos
with some friends and had to go home. Unfortunately, jumped
in an uber and instead of going straight, he went left.
I was like, hey, mate, mate, goes right ahead. I
had put in the pickup dress address as the drop
off address, so he was going to go. He was

(25:33):
going to go around the block and charge me thirteen
dollars a night, and he was happy to do that.
So I was like, I just had enough wines to
say no, no, no, hey, hey hey hey. So he said,
cancel that ride, catch a new one. So turned around,
was pubbing to Hawrack. He had dropped me off, and
then I was like, actually, now I'm going to call

(25:54):
you out. So I said, hey, mate, do just explain
that you're what's your mindset behind going around the block.
It's quite obvious that someone had made a mistake. When
I pointed my finger at him and he went ape.
He pulled over don't you point your finger at me?
And I said, well, well, well calm down, Hammer, just
calm down and get out of my cab. Well, I've

(26:15):
had enough wines to bend my moral compass. And I
sat there and says, no, we're going to have a
chat first, buddy, because out of someone and I had,
I hadn't had enough wines to be an idiot. So
I sat in this taxi and I sat there for
about twelve minutes, and I said, once you get in
here and have a chat mate, I'll get out.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
You wouldn't do it right, So you wanted to just
lay down the morals of the situation with the Uber driver.

Speaker 9 (26:40):
Well absolutely, it's but scammy, yeah, knowing you're going to
be going around the block and yeah, he would never.

Speaker 16 (26:46):
Bar of it. So I just got out and.

Speaker 9 (26:48):
Gave him me an international middle finger wave and strolled home.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, well it's an interesting I mean that that was
part of the part of the disruption, though. Wasn't for
Uber that you could give a one star? Yeah, if
the Uber driver did something like that and they'd quickly
you know, And I believe if a driver gets below
a certain point, I'm not sure what it is three
and a half stars or some then then they're no
longer an Uber driver, so that was definitely And then
we found out that they were giving us reviews. And

(27:14):
I remember finding out that I had a less than
perfect review and I was like, it made me a
little bit annoyed. I was like, well, what have I
ever done?

Speaker 11 (27:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I'm awesome.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, James, thank you very much. I'll tell you what
we should do as we should both open up our
Uber apps very shortly and have a look at what
our star rating is. Oh yeah, okay, all right, let's
do that.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
All right, I'm happy to do that. I know I
drove the friendly way.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to hear your
taxi stories and do you just used Uber? And if
that's the case, look at us.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Why here goes my last ride. I just gave them
five stars, nigga, I'm giving them a five dollar tip.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
You're a good man. See that's the way to do.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
It, Nolan pal malaal. There you go, five bucks? Mate?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Was he a good driver?

Speaker 17 (27:55):
Then?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Can't remember?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Eight ten eighty is a number to call? It's twenty
to two.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Matt heat Tyler Adams taking your calls oh eight hundred
and eighty mat eaven Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
We're talking about taxis versus Uber on the back of
several stories emerging from the weekend after the Coldplay concerts
of taxis ripping people off. One taxi company in particular,
quick text here, gooday, guys, my phone went flat after
pill dramms. So Uber wasn't an option. Pretty sure I
got fleeced after flagging down a taxi. Not good people?

(28:36):
He didn't say not good people. You set a stronger
word than that.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean some are, some aren't, that's right.
But I mean if you get one of those ones,
as I say, where it looks like they've jimmied up
the taxi signed themself at home with tape, then then
you're you're you're you're taking your life in your hands. Hey, guys,
last time I gave to Nuva driver was a bottle
of beer and well, okay and wow and something else
and something else and we smoked to Jack. Okay, all right,

(29:02):
then let's should we should? We should we? Are you
ready to look at our muber ratings?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yep, we see.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
We thought for the break, We're going to see who
was a bit of uber rider.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yep, now you go first.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I am an unbeatable and worthy and morally upstanding and
non slamming the door and not making uber drivers weight
and having pleasant conversation with them. Four point eight sex
out of five.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Four point eight sex. Oh that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's up there. What a great person I am.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
You must be, you must be. Well, I'm a terrible passenger.
Sometimes I slam doors, don't wear my seatbouts, I don't
abuse the drive, always have good chance. Get this four
point nine sex? Oh my god, that is almost perfection.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That is about as perfect as you could get.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
I'll tell you what though, just looking in the app here,
I love my CO two. Apparently estimated CO two saved zero.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, how would you save CO two?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Well, apparently there's some carbon neutral ubers that you can take.
Nobody told me about this. Let's go for the cheaper option.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
So what uber drivers like a short waiting times, courtesy
and safety? Yeah, but I heard they hate when you
slam the door.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah yeah, I'd love a good step as well. Jim Neil,
how are you?

Speaker 14 (30:13):
God?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Got now you're sorry? You mate?

Speaker 18 (30:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (30:17):
Well you were about to say with that taxi driver.

Speaker 20 (30:19):
Yes, I did for a number of years after after
I lost my job, and I was in my fifties,
so wasn't it wasn't that easy. But I enjoyed my
time in the taxis. But what changed a lot with it.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
There were always.

Speaker 20 (30:32):
Cowboys in the industry. It's always been there, but a
lot of them. What they're doing is they take advantage
of New Zealand people because they don't like confrontation and
they don't want trouble and they don't understand a lot
of the rules. Now, one of the things that you,
even with the new deregulated market, taxi drivers have got

(30:54):
to agree on the fair with the passenger before the
ride begins. He should ask that straight away. That can
be calculated using a meter, negotiated or set through an
app or whatever. So and they've got to give you
a receipt, et cetera. Now, as I said, a lot
of the problems started and the confusion started in the
industry when they made the deregulation and the advisors for

(31:16):
the deregulation, will Zuba believe it or not, so they
sort slanted it very much to their side. Now, But
what what I would suggest to anybody if you're going
to use if you're going to use taxes, use either
the alerts or the Core or the super shuttle or
something like that, because these are are pretty legitimate. People
don't take these these doddy ones right because they're bad news.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
And as I said that, but.

Speaker 20 (31:42):
You see a lot of people get I phoned in
last night and one of your guys says, oh, but
you know, if you know they're ripping you off, I
would just say sorry, I'm not prepared to pay that.
You know, I asked you to give me the court
at the beginning. You didn't do it or whatever. And
then he said, oh, but they'll get the place the

(32:02):
place want come. I can tell you, as a taxi driver,
do you called the police over a fair dispute which
is a civil a civil issue, not criminal. The police
will kick your back side. They say, what you're doing?
Did you think we're busy running about here and frame
everywhere and you're calling us because somebody is disputing the
fair with you. It's not going to harden so.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Neil what happens though, You you negotiate the fear at
the start with the taxi driver and then you arrive
and then they say another fear, and then you have
a dispute then about what was said. I mean, do
you what would you recommend the would you recommend you
write it down on a bit of paper what it
was and get them to sign it. I mean, how
can you guarantee that they're going to stick with it?

Speaker 10 (32:41):
Well, okay, if.

Speaker 20 (32:42):
They're going to do that, then when it gets to
the other end, I'll just half the problems with taxi
drive us all over the wall, but some I'm hilarious.
But anyway, what I would do is, I'm saying, you
just argue because he's the one losing standing there because
you said, no, I'm not prepared to pay that. You're
saying one hundred and fifty dollars, and you said, as
far as i'm concerned, a fair amount. You make sure

(33:04):
you give them a fair amount. I'll say, right, certainly
five dollars. Mate, that's you, and it can argue all
the legs. But he's losing money by standing there.

Speaker 21 (33:13):
Anger.

Speaker 20 (33:15):
Yeah, yeah, he's losing money. So eventually he knows he's
taking you for a ride. Anyway, he knows that. So
he's just going to say, oh, these guys are too
strong for me, and just move on. But these Crown,
like all these dodgy companies like Crown and things like that,
they're just they just start up and then they disappear
in another name and things like that. And a lot

(33:38):
of them are Uber drivers, but a lot of Huber
drivers when you know they might get the surge, but
the sub is not there at all times in different areas.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was in you might maybe
back in the day of many cabs in the UK
in London, and you negotiate the fear, and I was
getting one back from from quite big and negotiated a
fear of like fifty pounds or something. Yeah, and then
the guy just stopped and said in the middle of
nowhere and said it's a one hundred pounds where you
have to get out here. And I was like, okay, okay,

(34:08):
I'll get out here. And then I didn't pay anything
and it sort of turned into an altercation.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
How far did you get?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh, I don't know, I don't even know where in
London and ended up. I think that was his plan.
It sort of takes this this kiwi to some bizarre
place where the key we didn't want to be dropped
off and renegotiate, and so I just got out of
the Uber. But it was it was stressful. I tell you.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
That's different to the black cabs. The black cabs, the.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Black caves are very expensive and they're all above board
and they're incredible. But black cab in a way is
a sort of it's a high level.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Experience tourist trap.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, yeah, I mean it depends depends what you want
to spend. If you want to spend the money that
a black cab is, then you get a great service.

Speaker 14 (34:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call love to hear from you if you've been a
taxi driver or currently are a taxi driver. Nine to
nine toll is a text number. It is eleven to.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Two matteeth Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundredth
and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
News talks'd be news talks there, b It is eight
to two. Luke Taxi versus Uber experiences from you.

Speaker 22 (35:15):
Now the guards.

Speaker 23 (35:17):
It's kind of fag, I said, but like the OBErs
have destroyed the taxi industry and now everyone's complaining they
don't get the same service.

Speaker 22 (35:28):
Mmm, get what I'm getting?

Speaker 24 (35:31):
At.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, I get what you're getting at. But the reason,
I guess the counter to that look would be the
reason why Uber destroyed the taxi services that became along.
It came along with a better service than taxis were offering,
and that arguably traditional taxi the traditional taxi companies didn't
change quick enough. They had the tech was there to

(35:53):
have apps, and that the tech was there to to
you know, have have the ordering service that Uber has,
but but they never went there and that's why they
got upset so easily.

Speaker 23 (36:04):
Yeah, but that wasn't so much. The problem is that
that over people can go. It's way cheaper than a taxi.

Speaker 22 (36:10):
Every can.

Speaker 23 (36:11):
Yeah, I had a lengthy Australia was a huge rise
in Australia recently were a huge riven taxi drivers. And
this was crazy because I was trying to get ten
minutes down the road and I had one hundred dollars
cash and no one wanted to do it. So I'm like,
you'd have to just get it over. It's the only
way they only make their money and the taxis on
longest And to Sarah alp and someone from the city

(36:32):
going out where the only way he's going to make
money as running over or loose money on that and
somehow they simply seeing it.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely rough for the traditional taxi drivers.
It's been an incredible disruption in the market. But that
was also the frustrating thing that people didn't like about taxis.
You know, you'd be would be New Year's Eve and
you'd want to get home and then you'd open the
door and to go where you're going and you'd go,
you know where you're going not good enough, not not
far enough. Yeah, and you'd be like, well, okay when
you go all the way down the line and you

(37:00):
couldn't get it whereas was That's why one of the
other disruptions of ubers that they don't know where they're
taking you until they pick you up.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, well, just on that look. Because when Uber came
to New Zealand and there was a big campaign by
most of the taxi companies and said, yes, we're a
bit more expensive, but we're safer, you can rely on
us and the money is going back into New Zealand.
They are all good arguments, but unfortunately it wasn't enough
to convince customers.

Speaker 23 (37:22):
Obviously, yep, you're everyone will always share.

Speaker 22 (37:27):
It with the wan.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, but I tell you what will happen though, Luke,
when if Uber managed to successfully get rid of taxis,
then you watch the price of ubers go up and
up and up. And that's the business model of Uber.
And I was actually watching an interesting YouTube documentary on
what's happening with Uber pricing overseas and the documentary is
called the Grapification of Tech Great, and it was just

(37:52):
showing how Uber price is just going up and up
and up, because that's obviously their business model. Yeah, once
they become dominant, then they can charge more and more.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Thank you very much, Luke. Right, we're going to pick
this back up after two o'clock.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, so, yeah, bad experience and taxis bad experiences and
ubers do you still get taxis tips for using taxis?
He's still in the business, so you don't end up
getting charged one hundred and seventy dollars to go ten
k And yeah, we'd have to also hear from Uber
drivers and from taxi drivers at weight one hundred and
eighty ten eighties the number.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
We will see you after New Sport and Weather, which
is on its way.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
This sing.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Last night, I heard the screen door sway.

Speaker 17 (38:38):
In a big yellow taxi took my girl away. Now
all you know, it seemed to go that you don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
What you got till it's gone to these paradise.

Speaker 17 (38:52):
Hoot up a fuck is line and no, don't always
seem to go that you don't know what you got
till it's gone to the paradise. Put up a body
lie one night the y bar, put up a pocket. Hey, hey,

(39:12):
hey babe, Paradise, shoot up a barging. I don't want
to give why you want to give why?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
You want to give it all the way and now
you want to get it.

Speaker 25 (39:28):
You want to give us away. I don't want to
give away. You want to give away. You want to
give allway, give it it all.

Speaker 14 (39:38):
Giving it a why go?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
When is killing a way?

Speaker 17 (39:59):
Hey babe, Paradise, you don't have a parking lot.

Speaker 22 (40:09):
Mad Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's mad
Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Zebby.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Good afternoon, Happy Monday to you, seven past. Too great
to have your company as always.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Where was that video you just showed me? There's a
video up of me telling my meeting Coldplay story.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well, if you go to newstalk ZIRB dot co dot z's,
it's up there and go to the Matt and Tyler page,
you will find it.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Jeez, we're looking good in that video.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Well you are, You're looking pretty good.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
You're looking pretty good as well. Brother, I appreciate it. Hey,
So a mother and son visiting from Sydney where charged
one hundred and seventy bucks for a taxi firm Coldplay
concert at Eden Park to tit Angie Village. That's a
mere thirteen k's. So we're talking about taxis and Uber's
really yeah, because I only catch ubers now and this

(41:02):
I'm in a small town where they don't have Uber.
And look, I'm not saying that that Uber is a
great company or that they treat their driver as well.
It's just so much more convenient, and you know exactly
what's going on. We've got this text through on nine
two nine two in California, my brother drives for for Lift.
The competition for Uber, it's that very bit, the fact
that there are competitors in the business that has helped

(41:24):
to keep Uber prices reasonable. Also, I heard you say
that Uber drivers don't know where you're going when you
get in. I'm not sure if that's true. My brother
also knows with lift and he can choose to accept
the opportunity or not depending on when the pick up
is and drop off is before going to pack up.
Because actually, I'd like to hear from an Uber driver
on this one O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty,
because I thought the reason that was part of the

(41:46):
disruption is that they couldn't deny you because your trip
was too short. And am I getting that wrong? But
because that was one of the big changes. It's like
I never used to get a taxi if it was
only going to be you know, up the road, even
if it was raining, just because they wouldn't take it
or it felt felt rude. But then Uber drivers were
seemed to be happy to take you wherever you're going
to go.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
And I don't think again loved from Uber drivers. I
don't think they know until they pick you up, right
as soon as you get into the Uber.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, that's the only time they know.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
But taxi, that's what I'm asking I'm asking the question,
do they know before they get in I'm pretty sure
they don't. I think they can say direction they want
to go so they can work their way home. So, yeah,
bad experiences and taxis. Do you still get taxis tips
for using taxis? And yeah, anything that's happened to you
and Uber we're talking one hundred and eighty ten eighty, John,

(42:36):
you want to talk about negotiating prices with taxi drivers.

Speaker 21 (42:40):
Well, yes, it was my wife talking about some twenty
odd years ago, and she was getting in a cab
from Central City and was probably one of the traditional
companies that are around those days, and she said how
much to take me to Ireland Road? And he quoted

(43:02):
a price was probably around about ten or twelve bucks
in those days, and so she got it and off
they went, and when he hit Islan Roade turning off
Memorial Ev he said, right, here's Islem Road. You can
get out now. And she had to walk the last
half kilometer or nearly a kilometer home in the dark

(43:25):
at midnight on her own age.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
That's no good, John. No, did you ring the company
back and say.

Speaker 23 (43:32):
Something to that.

Speaker 21 (43:33):
No, my wife wasn't too phazed about it. She'd had
had a couple of drinks. I think so no, it
was just the way it was, and there was no
erber around in those days. So she shrugged her shoulders
and got on with it.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
And would you use Uber now, John, If you had to,
you'd go Uber over taxi every time.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
No.

Speaker 21 (44:00):
I don't have a cell phone, so I don't know
how to contact Uber. I have used it when I've
been out with friends or a sister in law particularly,
And no, well at eighty two, you don't go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
So wow, So you don't have a cell phone at all.

Speaker 21 (44:24):
I don't have a cell phone, either does my wife,
and we don't have a we don't have a computer,
and it's life gets a little bit tricky at times. Particularly,
I find booking tickets to a concert is almost impossible

(44:44):
without a computer these days.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
And how are you paying your bills? Are you still
having to travel in and pay bills that way?

Speaker 21 (44:51):
No, I've got everything on automatic payment our telephone and
I use cash. Oh wow, all the sundry stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Well, I'll tell you what like, probably quite inconvenient not
having cell phone, but probably pretty good for your mental health, John.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, Absolutely everyone else.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Is trying to get off them and you are not
even on them, So good stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, John, thank you quick text yiday. Guys. Just checked,
and I have a five star Uber store at eighty
four years old, I'm not strong enough to slam the
door closed even if I feel like it. And with
my old hearing age, I can never understand there x hints,
So never get into an argument. Old age does have
its benefits from max.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Wow to have a five star because I think I'm
a wonderful human being and so lovely Uber drivers and
very gentle with the closing the door and try and
rush out so I don't keep them waiting. And I'm
only own four point eight sex.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, I'd love it if you've got a wee notification
when you've got like a three star or a two
star or one star.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah, the bit of abuse. Yeah yeah, Well I'm getting
a couple of one star reviews on the text machine
on nine two nine two, so I appreciate those. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to cool. It is twelve plus two.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Your new home of afternoon Tour Taylor Adams Afternoon Call.
Oh eight hundred eighty gen eighty news talk'd.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
We're talking about taxis after a one hundred and seventy
dollars fair for mother and son visiting from Sydney. They
went thirteen K, one hundred and seventy bucks. After the
Coldpay concert. Text here on nine two nine two Uber
from whammy bar K Road Saturday night after the Big
Fagan and the People gig out to Langholm five kilometers
passed t Danangy only fifty eight bucks. I bring this

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up because Fagan the People, that's Andrew Fagan's band. Great band, Yeah,
great band. And I had a couple of friends that
were at there. Wemy Bar gig said it was fantastic.
And Andrew Fagan's got a new book out, actually, Swirly World,
Lost at Sea. I'm reading at the moment. Oh that's
his boat. Yeah, it's his boat. It's his third in
the trilogy. You know, it's all three of those books
are really really good reads.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Crazy journey so to pick up their book.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
So that's why I bring up that text.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah, fantastic, Camal, How are you?

Speaker 24 (46:59):
Yeah, good guys, How are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (47:01):
You're good now? Texis versus Uber's what's your take on it?

Speaker 19 (47:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (47:05):
So I used to be an ex texted drive and
also an uber driver, and frankly, I think something needs
to be done because in the tier, after the degregulation
of the industry, it's just become criminal. Like some of
the some of the fears that the taxi drivers are charging. Yeah,
it's just criminal. And every day kiwis who might have

(47:27):
had a fantastic time at concepts like Coldplay, get into
a taxi and the last thing that I remember is
getting charged or getting ripped off, you know, And it
doesn't it doesn't say well with me. I left the
industry because I felt guilty, but our association or I
felt like I was complicit, and yeah, yeah, I left.
And now nowadays, one one if I can give everyone

(47:50):
that's listening is if a taxi driver insists on, you know,
using the meter, don't don't trust him because the meters
are rigged and they can charge whatever they want. They
can you know, set the you know, and change it accordingly.
So it's always best to negotiate the price before you
go and sit in the car. And ubers great, but

(48:12):
when there's a big concert, all the Uber drivers become
taxi drivers, so you're stuck.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah right, I see what you're saying. Now, comele, you're
saying that you were you were an Uber driver. Afterwards
it was was Uber a Were you making making enough
money as an Uber driver?

Speaker 8 (48:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (48:29):
Initially so when it first started, I think it was
two thousands, thirteen or fourteen. I was driving then, and
it was good because Uber was paying more in terms
of you know, the distance, and also their commission was less,
so it was it was good as Uber drivers. But
as more more Uber drivers came on board and they
started charging more in terms of their commission and then

(48:51):
started charging less in terms of the passengers, it just
got really hard. Hence why a lot of taxi drivers
have just become desperate. But that doesn't mean that you
should rip off anything, you know, people who you know,
yeah get home.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
We were you still involved in the Uber industry when came.

Speaker 24 (49:08):
In, Uh no, no, but you know, I always try
to be honest and always provide a good service. So
even before tips came in, they used to get you know,
cash chips, Yeah, cash tips, which was great, you know,
and yeah, but just now it just needs something needs
to change. And and one other tip I can tell

(49:29):
is all the dodgy taxi drivers, if you're ever wondering
where they are, they always hang around the waterfront right
while the traffic traffic lightspace.

Speaker 11 (49:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I seen a few ones, and there's some dodgy ones
around Mount Smart Stadium if you're trying to get out there. Hey,
so you can answer a question for me that that
me and Tyler are asking before. When you're an Uber driver,
do you know where the fear is going before you
pick up?

Speaker 9 (49:52):
Yes and no.

Speaker 24 (49:53):
So depending on your status as an Uber driver, they
give you points, so if you like, if you if
you get certain points during three month period, then you
get you get to know where the destination is. But
I think that's a very small, very small percent. Most
of us or most Uber drivers, they just yeah, they
don't really know where they're going once they accept the job,

(50:15):
which is one of the things that a lot of
the drivers tried to change, but Uber did not listen.
So yeah, it's a yesmo, but a majority don't really
know when they accept the job.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I guess the idea from oving that was that they
didn't want people turning down. I mean there was a
problem with taxis in New Zealand for longest time where
if it wasn't a long enough fear when things were busy,
then the taxi driver would would would turn you down.

Speaker 24 (50:41):
Yeah, I think I think that was part of the
reasoning why they why they had that, hence why they
reward good drivers by giving them their feature or their access.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
So it's interesting what you said just before that, Kamala.
You said that Uber drivers and what will happen when
it becomes like a big thing like coldplay and there's
a lot a lot of you know, a lot of
business around. Are you saying that that taxi drivers will
just become I mean Uber drivers will just become taxi
drivers and that they'll.

Speaker 24 (51:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's correct. Yeah, because a lot of the
Uber drivers now who have lost it, lost their drives
because taxi is not proferable. They've you know, jumped on
the Uber app and they might do that, you know,
every day, but then when there's a concert on they
can make they can make their money and then an
hour or two they would have made in a whole shift.

(51:29):
So a lot of them will turn the app off
and become, you know, taxi drivers. That's why you see
a lot of the times people hanging around and looking
at the Uber apbits because there's not enough drivers or
all the drivers have become taxi drivers, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, and then that's when you see the ones with
the really dodgy taxi sign that looks as I was
saying before, like they got it off Timu.

Speaker 24 (51:50):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. So the best thing to do
is always negotiate. If a guy is saying no, no, no, no,
I don't know where I don't know where that is,
or I'm going to use my meta he's rigged his meter,
and don't go with him, and just yeah, don't get
ripped off, because honestly, it's just it's become criminal.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Yeah, good, cool, great advice. Fascinating side, isn't it. Yeah?
Quick text to the break, Hi, guys. I became disenchanted
with Uber when three times I booked them to pick
me up from the supermarket to take me home. I
got messages that my journey had been accepted, then saw
them nearly at my destination, then drive away. Another Uber

(52:27):
driver told me that they didn't like supermarket pickups because
they had to get out and helpload the groceries and
then unload them at the destination.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Well they don't have to no, oh yeah, that is
an interesting one. But I mean, if you're not getting
paid that much money, and you know Uber drivers you
can feel it. They're like, well, you know, I don't
want to also be loading someone's groceries.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah, And I'm going to say, on the short trip,
I always felt like a real dirt bag. If I
had to grab an Uber and I knew it was
only three k down the road, I felt like a
real dirt bag, and I would give.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Them a good tip because yeah, that's what I say. Now,
if I get into an Uber and it's a very
short trip, I say, don't worry. I'm going to give
you the full five dollar tap. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah,
all right.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number
coour Well, it's twenty two past.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Two Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty eighty on youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Good afternoon, twenty four past to Brett. Do you still
use taxis?

Speaker 11 (53:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Mate, yep, and over ubers.

Speaker 8 (53:30):
I signed one on here now Mike, yes you are yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (53:34):
So guys, all I wanted to do was just drawed
your attention some clarification on the term taxis. So yeah,
so I've got a long background of the taxis specifically
in Queenstown. I know a lot of them will be
listing right now. So when you talk about the taxis,
and there's a difference between taxis and taxi companies, so

(53:55):
to use some name brands and everyone will be familiar
with Blue Bubble, Blue Star, Green Cabs, Gold Cabs, Aucam,
co Op, Corporate Cabs, registered reputable branded X companies. Now,
if you get into a branded taxi like the one
I used to drove for, which is Blue Bubble, in
there is a personal identifier, your photo, your name, your number,

(54:18):
side of the taxi, the taxi number inside and outside,
inside and outside, the tariff, the rates and the flag fall.
So there's no unknownnce. That is very different from the
term that you're using as taxi, which is any individual
with a p license who jimmy's up with light sticks
on the roof and cards themselves a taxi. So I
just wanted to say, we've just refer to life and

(54:39):
into the term taxis, but are there are two very
very different things from a branded, big name taxi company
who go average taxi who is always nearly always also
an uber driver.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah, that's what that was, we're saying, Brett before the
big problems come in, especially when you get those taxis
which look like they've just jimmied up the sign themselves
and shoved it on the roof of the car.

Speaker 11 (55:05):
Exactly, Matt. And that's the reason why I just wanted
to draw Yeah has attention. It's not brand taxis all
in the same group, because they're two very different animals.
The other thing is, when you get into a taxi
a brand of taxis, which is what I used to
work for, you know straight away what the tariffs, what
the flag fall is, and you can pretty well work

(55:25):
out for yourself what that will cost, and the driver
will give you an indication of what it's like at
the cost you based on how far you're going. Another comedy.
I just want to make not the whole too much
of your time. You're not saying that fools are easily
fools are easily parted with their money. If someone charged
me to go from downtown Queenstown to say, Central frank
And would would normally be about a thirties of a

(55:47):
fear they're about stack around about that and he says
to me that's seventy bucks. I'd slip them thirty bucks
and say good night.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Back yeah, well I guess, I mean, what are you
going to do about them? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's
that's a that's a very good point. But I guess
some people aren't as bold as you and there, and
you know, they're a bit freaked out and scared, scared
to do it, Yeah, which sounds like the case with
this mother and son. Also sometimes that you've got your
kid with you, you don't necessarily want to get into

(56:14):
a massive confrontation when you're being ripped off like that.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
No, and some of them can get quite aggressive, both
the customers and the drivers, right.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, one hundred percent. But yeah, and I guess if
you're international, I mean you can tell which is a
reputable firm. But this firm that's getting a lot of
heat here is what is it Crown Taxis. And you know,
like if you're from overseas like them, and they see
Crown Taxis, they don't know, you know that it's not
in the same same category as Blue Bubble for example.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, Well good chats.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah, great chat. Well we'll put the Taxis in the
others to bed for now. But the advice it seems
to be is use reputable taxi firms if you can
and look negotiate and before if you're not going to
negotiate the price before you get into the taxi.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yeah, very wise, what rights we're going to change tech
After the headlines, we want to talk about junk food
in schools. Stay with us. We'll tell you more very shortly.
It is twenty eight past two.

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Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty eight to
three right, Let's talk about junk food and schools. Junk
food like soft drinks, lollies and saucy rolls have been
found Yeah Beautiful have been found to dominate healthier options
and use health in school touch shops, with just a
tiny fraction of those surveyed meeting nutrition guidelines. So Messi
University they were the researchers behind this first of its

(58:50):
kind snapshop. They now argue there's potential to follow Australia
with bolder policy measures for schools, so schools are encouraged
to align with the national Food and Drink guidance that
uses a color coded system to rate foods based on
nutritional value. This means school menu should ideally contain at
least seventy five percent green foods. That just sounds yack,

(59:11):
doesn't it a green food?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
But no, it's just a silly so you might as
well just shut down the tuch shop. I mean, like,
kids aren't going to line up for seventy five percent
green foods?

Speaker 11 (59:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Do you want me to tell you what some of
the green foods are?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Not many surprises here, So fruit, nice apple at the
touch shop.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
I haven't got a problem in the apple. Big fan
of an apple?

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yeap vegetables?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
What kind of vegetables are going to sell it a
talk show? Kids ain't going to line up for a broccoli?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Nice piece of corn?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Oh yeah? Like corn? Sure?

Speaker 15 (59:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, sweet corn and season absolutely if it's cooked on
a barbecue, A little bit of prepicuare I'm in for it?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Tip it? And sugar maybe, And of course those are
lower and processed ingredients, sugar and unhealthy fats. But what
we want to talk to you about is at that
part of your life when you're in secondary school maybe
not primary school because the touch shop I don't think
really exists at the primary level. But surely you're allowed
a little bit of junk food at the touch shop.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, some of my fondest memories of school are some
of the foods from the tuch shop at my high
school particularly actually went to Media School, had some great
food in there as well. But the mouse trap. Can
people remember what the mouse trap is? Yeah, that would
probably be considered bad food. It was a sort of
a half burger. But I don't know if they did
it everywhere, but this is how they did it when
I was growing up in Deneed. It half burger bun,

(01:00:24):
white bread toasted with spaghetti can spaghetti on it, and
a whole lot of cheese, maybe a sprinkle of bacon
if you're lucky. That was delicious. The donuts, the long donuts,
not the round donuts, you know, the cream.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Donut, cream filled donuts, man, would.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Be delicious, And I don't think that like, so, if
you're getting enough exercise as a kid, then you can
have a donut and a mouse trap at school and
be fine. Right, But also you're not gonna I mean,
that's not gonna be the problem them getting that food
at school. If kids are turning out a beast, they're
getting that food, bad food outside of school.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yeah, because I don't know about you, but that was
maybe a weekly treat if I was clever enough to
rustle up a buck for a juicy. And we used
to have cup of noodles at the at the touch shop,
so you get a wee cup of noodles and I
had my juicy. But that was once a week maybe
if I was lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Oh man, a pie and a zap was boy. I
look back at that and the hot dogs at my
touch shop. I mean, these are my fondest memories of school. Yeah,
the food at the touch shop. You're going to take
that away from people and serve someone a broccoli, a
sprout of broccoli. They won't line up. It's one of
those things. It's like you might as well just shut
down the touch shop because they won't line up for it.

(01:01:35):
Kids are quite happy to not eat their lunch if
it's too boring. They won't. I mean everyone this is
news to parents, but your kids if the lunch is
too healthy, they're throwing that out before they get They
just won't eat it. Yeah, I mean I remember when
I was a kid, my mum would give me a
carrot to eat for lunch. And when I was at
primary school, I thought I had to eat my lunch,

(01:01:56):
so I'd sit there while all the kids were playing,
trying to playing, trying to get through my carrot. And
it was a disaster until finally I went, know what
I'll do as I'll just throw the lunch out every
day and kids do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
We've all done it. If I get.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You want to play with the kids right EXECTU other kids.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Yeah, and by high school you're trying to rustle up
some dollars right there. If you can find any money
at home, if you can sell your school books and
get a couple of bucks from your schoolmates, then you're
going straight for that B and EPI.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, so eight hundred eighty ten eighty which you support
at least seventy five percent of green foods, seventy five
percent of the foods and tuck shops and schools in
New Zealand being green and secondary question, what are some
of the great delicious foods you remember from your touch
shop when you were at high school?

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
That is the number to call it is twenty four
to three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Your new home of afternoon talk man Heaton Taylor Adams
Afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
We're talking about proposals to make tuch shops and schools
in New Zealand healthy with seventy five percent green foods
like fruit and vegetable. And look, I've been called out,
I said, I'm sure I'm right about this, Matt, Matt, Matt,
the mouse trap is marmite on toast with mouthed cheese
on top. You've just described a pizza bun. K Bar
from the Touch Shop was awesome. K bar. Yeah, I

(01:03:16):
loved k Bar back in the day, very hard. But
is that right. I'm pretty sure a mouse trap is
because of the cheese? Is what is trapping the mouse?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
I am sure you'll want.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I think it's maybe anything with a lot of cheese
on it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
We're going to do a deep dive on the mouse trap.
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah. And also I want to about protein cream shakes.
Protein w shakes, protein cream it's the most delicious type
of milkshaking. You don't get it outside of the South Island.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I've never heard of it. Okay, Well, someone will backed
me up on that looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Hey you Cindy, Cindy your thoughts on healthy food and
tuck shops.

Speaker 26 (01:03:50):
Well, you know, I've got two teenagers at college in Auckland,
one of the biggest colleges in New Zealand. So I'd
better not name it, but I've got to say, like
growing up to myself, like primary school and fort of
three the eighties, and that it was you know, home,
the home crockery kind of pie and donut classic donut beautiful, yeah,

(01:04:13):
and then an on intermediate school and it was like
a boys and group pie and a pecket of twisting.

Speaker 11 (01:04:17):
For like.

Speaker 26 (01:04:19):
You know, and so and that's what you want, Like
it's fun, you know, because like my boys, right, they
don't even want to buy the lunch at school, So
I make these all the time, or we get it
somewhere else in the way to school, because it's like this,
like sushi which is really overpriced and really bad, and
like boo buns like chicken bow buns with hardly any
chicken and then once again really overpriced. So they just

(01:04:42):
they don't even like it, you know. So it's said, really,
and may I mean talking about broccoli. BROCCOLI's on the
table just.

Speaker 23 (01:04:48):
About every night.

Speaker 26 (01:04:48):
They give me sick about that, but you know, stub
even vegetables, and we have good meals at home all
the time. So yeah, I reckon, I reckon. The school
can team should be a bit of fun as well
for them, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah, that's what they agree, because you're not having it
every day because kids don't have that kind of money.
So the touch shop is a treat, but you can
get I get brocoli down my kids. You have to
fry it up in a lot of butter and put
Moroccan seasoning on it. Oh that sounds good, and then
it basically turns it into meat. But yes, So now

(01:05:19):
I've got a question for you, Cindy. And one of
the great shames in my life is my mum used
to make me a lunch every day and blissus, she's
no longer with us. And I used to not eat
it every day and I lock back because it was healthy,
and so every day I would not eat it and
then my bag would fill up and then I'd throw
them down the bank into Donaldson's nursery which was near

(01:05:41):
our house. And I'm racked with guilt about that because
I just now I think about my mum every day
getting up and making me lunch with this sort of
really wholesome bread, and it was so good for me
and I never eat it. Ate it. So with your lunches, Cindy,
that you make for your kids, they are they in?
Are they with the market and mind? Are they they?

(01:06:02):
Are they the kind of stuff that? Were they healthy?
And are you sure that your kids are eating them?

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
Oh? Yeah, look, I'm sure there's a few lost iteands
along the way, but no, yeah, they get The classic
kind of healthy lunch was a you know, a nice
salard kind of sandwich and apple and that. But there's
always a bit of a treat there's a movie bar,
a nice mufferin or something of a treaty as well
in there.

Speaker 10 (01:06:25):
I've got to say.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
But I think on the whole day eat them. But
I'm sure I actually they trade, they trade sometimes. I
have heard that.

Speaker 23 (01:06:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Well, when I was going to school, I had this
mate who always got money to buy a pie and
as zapp As I was talking about, his name was Benjamin,
and I always got the healthy lunch, and so we
started swapping because he desired a healthy lunch and I
deserted healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Wrong with that kid, Well, what was healthy? It was
the carrot you gave him the carrot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
It was just my mum main challenge sandwiches out of
challenging bread back in the day before we had become
acclimatized to Vogels type bread, you know, back in the
time of just nothing but white death sandwiches. So I
wasn't my stomach and I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't up
to eating Vogels type bread back then, and now now
kids can handle it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Yeah, Cindy, thank you very much. I eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call just quickly.
Did you ever forget to endy out the lunch box
before you got home?

Speaker 23 (01:07:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
No, Look, I actually got called up in front of
the whole school because I emptied a bag at my
backpack which had about twelve uneaten lunches into it, and
I got spotted and then I was called up in
front of the assembly and told off for wasting food.
So and I was terrify. That went back to my mum.
That's when I started having the lunches down the bank
beside Donaldson's Nursery, which grew the Christmas trees in the neighborhood. Ayway,

(01:07:45):
I'm giving a lot of details about my life that
I maybe don't need to share.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
It's sixteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons You
for twenty twenty four News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
News Talk zed B. We're talking about the tuck shop
at school. New research is showing that most schools are
not eating national guidelines when it comes to food and
drink for children. The guideline should be seventy five percent
green of food. So that's your fruit, your vegetables, you're
boring stuff. But we've also asked the question what was

(01:08:21):
your favorite food at the touch shop when you're at school?
Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number
to call.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
And I think I might be wrong about what a
mousetrap has is because just getting hundreds of text from
people saying, sorry, guys, mousetrap is bread with marmote and
grated cheese on a baked crispy so nice and crunchy delish.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Is it a Northern South thing?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Yeah? I don't know. And look, were's the talk about
protein shakes? I want to get one of that protein
cream shakes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
But anyway, Trevor, how are you?

Speaker 27 (01:08:45):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
You guys all right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
What was your favor?

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
Would you?

Speaker 28 (01:08:48):
Well?

Speaker 14 (01:08:49):
My favorite was what Mate described other than what the
name was was on the baked beans better when it
was what is what is baked beans of spaghetti with
melted cheese on top? What was surprised about this whole thing?
Absolute technicality and the actually questioning about food and fitting
to a school in general, like what is healthy and

(01:09:11):
good to some people is more than acceptable for other people.
And I just can't help just giggling really about just
a mass of talk and the demands that have put
on about it. But no matter with you, Mate, I
would I would have never gone to the tuck shop
for an alpha alpha sandwich or have been been bean
sprouted sandwich. I mean I think food had to taste nice.

(01:09:33):
Oh yeah, I mean imagine the day when it comes
you go down to your Mitoten or Cunnings on a
sad day, you go along and have one of those
beautiful white bread sausages with you know, both sauces and
onions on it, and instead of doing them, they're selling
a sandwich with as I say bean sprouts for alfhare.
They't close down, mate, don't have no business.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Then the same would happen with the tuch shop. And
don't get me started on when you buy a sausage
roll now and it's not actually a sausage roll, it's
a some kind of chickpee crime.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Oh that gets you angry, doesn't it. You were talking
about that last week. Actually it happened to you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
It happened. Yeah, it happened to me. I was like, oh,
because I love a sausage roll. And then I was
dipping it. I was going I I nearly spat it out.
I was so shocked and disgusted. You should have a
big warning sign on sausage rolls if they're not proper
sausage rolls.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
You got Trojan horsedn't ian? How are you? What is
your the food? You remember most of the touch shot?

Speaker 18 (01:10:27):
Yeah, no, it's going back, but probably the late seventies.
But I was one of these fussy white guys that
always had to buy his lunch at school. But unfortunately
I was vertically challenged until I was about fourteen. So
at intermediate school I was surrounded by I was one
of I was the minority, I would say, And so

(01:10:47):
there was a lot of bullies around. But I found
a friend or someone to befriend who was about six
foot taol. So I used to buy them a pie
with my lunch money every day so I didn't get
beaten up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
So you're playing protection money, protection money.

Speaker 18 (01:10:59):
And was absolutely intermediate, but you know it got me through.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, yeah, well, and there's also the sort of romantic
side of that, because I remember him pressing a young
lady at high school with regularly buying her jam donuts.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Did it work?

Speaker 18 (01:11:14):
Yeah, racket, but yeah, that was back in the day
when there was only pies or twisties or cabars, don't it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I like a pie and a chocolate milk
was about with sauce was about. It was one of
the best things I've got, As I was saying, for
such on fond memories about tuck shops, so I'd take
it quite personally when people are trying to destroy them
by making them seventy five percent green foods ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Did you wear fish and chip day? It's cool?

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah we did.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
That was such a great day, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, Monday lunches. It was called one of my schools. Yeah,
fish and chip day, or you could get in American
hotcog logged over the choices. Oh my god, they were
so good. I'd be so excited about that. When that
would happened, I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Would just go six crabsticks. I love crabsticks all do.
They are the best thing. But even I got so
excited about fishing chip.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
They's Godam Marry, I think she's got the word on
mouse traps. So what are they exactly?

Speaker 29 (01:12:06):
Oh huh?

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
How many donuts that took me before she crugged?

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Oh look it was yeah, actually, now I think about it,
it was just it just made me feel good giving
her the jam done. I don't think it actually carried
me that much favor.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
To be fair, Yeah, I was gonna say it probably
didn't do anything. But no, the mouth trips definitely were
didn't necessarily have to be Vegie might but cheese, grated
cheese and some little bits of bacon on top and
just put under the grilla in the oven stack in
the day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah. So so for some reason, the mouse traps that
I was getting didn't have I didn't have a marmade
or Vigie might in them. If I'm remembering.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
Called she called mouse traps.

Speaker 13 (01:12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
See, that's I'm starting to question everything. I'm trying to
start to question my whole childhood because so many people
have said I'm wrong about what a mouse trap was.
Maybe they were just called maybe that. I wonder if
there was another name for them. But anyway, what we
were getting at our tuch shop was just it was
just basically a burger barn that with some spaghetti and
a whole lot of cheese, That's what.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
I remember, and some grated onion on top. And they
are delish. Yeah, I really know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah, so I think of the mouse trap was maybe
the mouse traps just the cheese, because you know, historically
people thought that might like cheese bacon. Yeah, you get
some bacon on that, and it takes it up to
a whole other livermium version.

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
By the way, Matt, just change your subject for a second.
You know you dropped your toast on your bed the
other night. I was the one that had that band
pull up and would a parcel for me and and
it was these little trays. Now, I reckon, you need
one of those. They don't move.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Thanks for the tip. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Mary Cameron what was your favorite the touch shop?

Speaker 15 (01:13:59):
The old juicy ice block vividly, you know, like you
had to make the decision with your bishts and like
you've got all the juice or you're sucked on it,
and like, yeah, sucked all the juice out and you
were left with basically ice at the ENDET remember those,
Oh yeah, the days of febbery. They stuck with me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
That was one of the great dilemmas where your sucker
completely out. I was always a sucker.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Because you just bite the corner of the plastic cough, yeah,
and then try and suck all the juice out, and
you're right. I used to go for the old side
working on the concrete to try and mesh it up,
and then you'd have like a slushy.

Speaker 23 (01:14:35):
Yeah, yeah, good call, you know.

Speaker 15 (01:14:37):
I mean, I guess it's in a few years. I
don't even know if they still make them anymore, but gosh,
that was such a go to at the touch shops.

Speaker 8 (01:14:43):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Well, Cameron, would you support calls for touch shops at
schools to be seventy five percent green foods?

Speaker 15 (01:14:50):
Oh? I mean to me, like, like you, I was
lucky enough to get a lunch from my mum most days,
but you know, the Touch Shop was a treat day,
you know, like it was a day when you get
a pie or you have a donut, or you could
have a fizzy drink and just to me, like we
can't get wrapped in kids in cotton wooll. You know,
like they're going to these things, let's just do it

(01:15:10):
in a controlled environment where they didn't try the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Yeah. Well, I mean when I was at school so
painfully skinny that I started wearing two uniform shirts, you know,
two jerseys to school just so I didn't discuss people
with my ribs. So, you know, like change now things
have definitely moved on from that stage now. But but
you know, like some kids like me, I needed as
many jam donuts and mouse traps and juicy juicy ice

(01:15:38):
blocks as I could possibly get my hands on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Angela, what was your favorite milk buscuits? Milk biscuits?

Speaker 30 (01:15:46):
I know, oh, I mean I used to love the
vanilla and chocolate ones. I don't know if they do
that now, but I was at high school in the
mid eighties and that was one thing at the Touch
Shop that I always bought, and I think they're healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Yeah, well, they are healthy. Well, just trying to say,
I mean that would would that be in the green area?
Maybe not? Maybe in the amber.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Yeah. Well, I mean, if a kid's running around doing
enough stuff, then you can pile anything into the system
and they'll get the good deal out of it. If
you're not doing enough, then there's nothing you can do
about it, you know. Oh yeah, Oh, thank you so
much for you call angela. Yes, I'm getting a lot
this this this is the big mouth, the big mousetrap.

(01:16:32):
Mousetrap controversy continues on Hi guys. A mousetrap has grated
apple cheese on bread grilled and the old jelly and
peach pie with cream. Oh okay, here we go a go.
That's not the mousetrap definitely doesn't have peach pie in it.
But there's a separate item here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
And you mentioned the protein cream drinks. You clarifying what
the heck that is?

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Yes, can you still get protein cream milkshakes? I'm sixty
three now and as a young girl, protein cream was
a go to for a hangover. Yes, so protein cream.
I think it's only in the Deep South Island, like
where I come from, in Dunedin.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Yeah, And what was it? It was just I mean,
it's like a milkshake, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
And how are you you want to talk about mousetraps.
You can help us solve this once and for all.

Speaker 31 (01:17:14):
Yes, yes I do. I'm older than many people, and
my mother always made it for us at home. That's
things slice bread suss Mama raised cheese on the top
and slowly bakes in the ovens. They're really crisp, and
then you're just kitch in an air tight ten for

(01:17:37):
a day or two. And I never ever had one
at a tuck shop, but I still make them.

Speaker 23 (01:17:44):
Today for my great children.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Nice. Why isn't your mic going on there?

Speaker 22 (01:17:51):
All?

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Nice on? You're delicious? Thank you so much for your call. Guys,
can you explain what a touch shop is? For Americans
that have an idea? It's the store that opens up
and sells food at lunchtimes and breaks in high schools
and intermediate schools in New Zealand. Moving on from the
touch shop, now on to the Mike Tyson Jake Paul
fight in the weekend. Yes, everyone's talking about it. Some

(01:18:13):
people are saying it's it was a disgusting horror show.
I enjoyed it. You did, but I have your thoughts
about it next. Yeah, it was something. It was something
to watch, even though nothing happened.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to cool. Nine to two ninety two is the
text number. See you on the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
So yeah, as I said before, I enjoyed the Tyson fight,
And that's a controversial opinion. It was pointless and nothing happened,
but it was interesting to see what would happen if
a fifty eight year old who was an incredible fighter
in his time for to twenty seven year old who
is an okay fighter in their time, and we saw
what happened. Aging is rough, although it sounds like because
everyone was a bit confused because Tyson's the videos that

(01:18:59):
were releasing of Tyson's training showing him throwing a lot
of punches and then he didn't throw any punches. Sounds
like he had some kind of terrible illness between that
wasn't wasn't revealed to everyone. But the undercard was fantastic.
Katie Taylor defeated Amanda Serena with a horrible gash on
her forehead. Yeah, but yeah, I had a lot of
fun watching the kids. So I'd like to hear people's

(01:19:20):
thoughts about it. And because some people are saying that's
about as low as boxing can go, and I say
it can go lower. Yeah, I don't know, It's just
it was just something something to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Did you think Tyson was going to do better? Did
you think he was going to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Go I didn't think he could win it, just because
of the age thing, but I thought he was going
to throw a lot more punches than he did. He
just basically didn't throw any punches at all. He might
have won the first round potentially. You could could just
say that, But as I said before, I would have
loved him to just smack Jake Paul on the side
of the head right at the end when he was
when Jake Paul was bending down to show respect. That

(01:19:55):
would have been a great into it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Yeah, drinking a lot of this was just hate watching.
The amount of people that wanted to see Jake Paul
be put down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Oh yeah, I think it was. And like my son,
there was multi generational hate watching. Because I was watching
with my son and they were going and when he
came out in the car driving really slowly with his brother,
was like you just guys just such Dick just hate
is so much. But yeah, and some people have described
it as elder abuse, but I don't think there's much

(01:20:22):
in that because I mean he's only fifty eight. And
also he chose to be there, and you know, he
talked up a big game, yeah, Mike Tyson, and it
certainly looked like he could still punch, as I said
before in the training videos, he just didn't really fire
a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Craig, what did you think of the fight?

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:20:41):
I like boxing, not enough to pay for the you know,
the Joseph Parker fights, and then I'm not that much
from a fan, but I really enjoyed it. And I
think that Jake Paul I didn't know who the rooster
was until the weekend. I think he's a very very
very clever guy. You know, he knew that his exhibition

(01:21:03):
and that's what it was. He knew that was going
to be an anti climate so his but he put
on really good fights beforehand and built up and built
up and built up until that Lady's fight. My wife
and I my wife's never seen a boxing fight of
the life, and we were both in the man cave

(01:21:24):
popping tops just do it, you know, and I what
he's done. He's given Tyson the opportunity to get extra
twenty mil to see him through. And I thought he
was an absolute dips guy until the interviews at the end,
and it wasn't all about him. He was thanking the serviceman,

(01:21:44):
the police, the fire brigade, the people that served the
community every day. And I turned around on him and
I thought, he's actually a very very clever market and
good on him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
He's definitely a fantastic businessman, and you know, he saw
an opportunity. It was just a statement that he said
on his YouTube channel once and I wonder if I
can you know, he's been doing a few fights. I
wonder if I could beat Mike Tyson. And he turned
it into a huge event. I mean, they're saying sixty
million people were watching it live on Netflix and there
was eighty thousand people at the stadium in Texas. So

(01:22:18):
he definitely turned it into into something. But you know,
and as you say, the undercard fights were amazing. So
what was your feeling at the end of the fight, though, Craig, Like, what,
how would you describe your emotions at the end of it?

Speaker 22 (01:22:33):
When he bound to show you respects. Even at that point,
I was going, come on, Mike, not to track out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
It was the same.

Speaker 22 (01:22:41):
But then his interview at the end to it, I
turned on him. You know, think, this guy he knows
what it's about, and he knew that that fight we
was going to disappoint a lot of people, and that's
why the build up fights were so important.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
So did you think did you think at no point
that Jake Paul thought that, You don't think at all,
because I thought in the first round he was quite
sort of tentative, like he didn't know for sure that
Mike Tyson wasn't going to turn up with anything, because yeah,
as I said before those training videos, it looked like
he had some punches. Still.

Speaker 22 (01:23:14):
Yeah, it was that first round. I mean, Tyson had
one opportunity and he clicked at him. If that was
Tyson thirty years ago, the guy would have been asleep. Yeah,
but you could you saw as soon as that happened.
Tyson was an old man. He had no legs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
I know that surprised me. It surprised me what an
old man. He looked older than fifty eight when he
came out there, and I know had that leg injury,
and it sounds like he had had some serious health
issues that he hadn't really revealed beforehand. But he looked
older than fifty eight to me.

Speaker 22 (01:23:43):
Yeah, and Jake Paul he he he could have really
heard Tyson, he didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
But as the commentator said at the start, Jake Paul
was kind of at a hiding to nothing because if
he gets beaten up and loses, he's lost to an
old man. And if he and if Mike Tyson turns
up with absolutely nothing and a twenty seven year old,
you know, over half his age under half of that,
he then looks like a terrible kim and being as well.

(01:24:08):
So Jake Paul was kind of at a hiding to
nothing except for, of course, all the money he was
making from it.

Speaker 22 (01:24:14):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, and I says him, I I
really enjoyed it, and I'm gonna watch more women's boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Oh my god, that that fight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
It was hard to watch that raving about that fight.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
That gas from the head bart above Amanda's eye. Oh
my god, that was that was that was something that
was that was high drama that fight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Yeah, great question for you. Do you do you think
these sort of non professional fights. He's called them celebrity fights.
They are good for sport in general or the sport
of boxing.

Speaker 22 (01:24:40):
Well, they's support me into being interested in it, you know.
I it's the whole event, not just the main like
the main draw card was Tyson, but it was the
whole event and the way we saw some really good
boxing right up until Tyson. That was a that was

(01:25:04):
an exhibition and that's and it was a bad one.
But I I just think that as was on again
when I watch it. Yeah, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Yeah, Craig, thank you very much. Interesting text here, Giday. Guys,
what a sad world we live in When you've got
get your jolly's out of a blood sport. Surely there
are better things to do with your time. Wow, sixty
million people would say otherwise.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Well, the better things to do with your time then, Okay,
So there's anti getting a jollies from a blood sport. Yeah,
I mean you could argue that. I mean maybe if
I was a better person, I wouldn't get my jollies
from blood sports, but I do, so you know what
I mean, It's not quite I went to the movie
Gladiator too the other day. It's not quite Gladiator level. No, one.
No one dies generally speaking, But yeah, I do get

(01:25:48):
my jollys from blood sports.

Speaker 14 (01:25:49):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
I love a big cut up. I love a big
cut up in league, Yeah, I love it. I love
a crunching tackle and rugby union I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you watch
the fight, what did you think about it? Love to
hear from you. Nine to two, nine two. It's the
text number. It's twenty three past three.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eighty eighty
on news Talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
We're talking about the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight and
the undercards on the weekend. Did you enjoy it? We
think it was good. Was an elder of use got
the sexier boxing has dead long lived the UFC. That's
is I'll tell you what. UFC is kicking boxing's ass
at the moment, except for these big, big sort of events. Jimmy,
you watch the fight, what did you think?

Speaker 23 (01:26:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (01:26:37):
Yeah, listen, I've got a different take. This guy came in,
he had a choice, he didn't have to fight Jake Paul,
but he did. His physique was fantastic, Right, there's a
difference between hitting a bag and getting in the ring
and another person, you're running out of energy, mate, and
at that age he can't do it. And I wanted

(01:26:59):
him to knock the shit out of Jake Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
But it didn't happen.

Speaker 27 (01:27:04):
And you know what, you know what, I'll tell you what, mate,
from my heart, Katie Taylor would have knocked them both
out on the same night. Pal, And that's the gospel, Mate,
Katie Taylor as fort Serrano twice and it was brutal.
That's the second time, Bud, and it was absolutely brutal.

Speaker 7 (01:27:24):
Ay.

Speaker 27 (01:27:24):
But I take my head off to bloody Mike Tyson
for having to go. He stood up and he had
a den go, mate. How many people at that age,
Maddie Tyler could do that? Nobody, mate, But he had
a den going for that. I've never liked the guy,
but I wanted, you know what out of that pick ahead, mate,

(01:27:47):
and it just got to me.

Speaker 18 (01:27:49):
Hey.

Speaker 27 (01:27:49):
And by the way, Maddie, you know, I tell you
make coldplay. I'd love to have seen him get on
your son.

Speaker 22 (01:27:56):
You're and you know what.

Speaker 27 (01:28:00):
I was listening to Raylen Ramsey and I had to
lie Blue Bubble, no trouble, take care of guys and
have a good one mate.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Than he sums it up. He's a real broadcaster, Jimmy,
isn't he circle?

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Yeah, never sticks around for questions though. Oh one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call a
quick couple of texts before the headlines. Blood sports are
the oldest sport of history. People are just too soft now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Yeah, it's an interesting one when people say you shouldn't
watch that, but we do. I don't know. Well, you know,
I don't feel guilty about watching boxing or UFC.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
It is the tension and the excitement of it is
second to none. There is something about being humans where
we are drawn to that. And you know, as long
as we're not going out and punching people ourselves outside
of the ring, then I think that's okay. It's good
for it. It's it's part of being human, enjoying enjoying
intense sporting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Fixtures, a bit of blood on the octagon. I mean,
I've got a lot of friends who are boxing purists,
and they are so against UFC. They despise it. They
say it's ugly, it's brutal, it's not really sport.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I couldn't disagree for what I mean, they say it's
not really sport.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
They think, they don't they don't think it's to the
same level as boxing in terms of athletic ability. Well,
I disagree. I disagree. I think they are phenomenal athletes
in the US.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
I mean, look, I've got a lot of time for
boxing at a lot of time for UFC. But to
say that that's not a sport and doesn't have a
skill level, I mean you're getting you're getting punched. In
the fact, you're getting attacked from so many different areas
in UFC, you know, you punching it and boxing obviously
just getting punched right suddenly there's a lead coming around

(01:29:42):
the side, or or a knee coming up, or then
you then you've got to then you've wrestled to the ground.
It's I don't know. I mean, I can't. I look,
I can. You can agree it's too brutal and it
is a lot for people to watch. But for anyone
saying that it's got less skill than boxing, I don't know.
That's a big call.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. We'll pick it back up shortly. It is
twenty nine past three, you.

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Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Back now to matt Ethan Tyler, Adam Zaan q Rayleen.
It is twenty seven to four and we're talking about
the Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul fights. Some great texts
coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Yeah, that's right, And I was sort of saying that
I enjoy UFC and I enjoy boxing. This text come
through a nineteen nine two part of being human mental
regressing to primitive primitivity. It's primitivity a word.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Yeah, yeah, primitivity, primitivity to a primal ed.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
I'm not sure if that's positive or not. He is
he for our anti regressing to primitivity.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
It's kind all right now, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
I'm for it. Yeah, I mean like it's in the ring,
it's fine. It's it's people that train really hard. You
could argue that that boxes and you know, MMA fighters
are actually a great example to people because they work
really really hard on themselves and the skill they train
like no one else, and then they have the guts
to go and do something that most people would never

(01:32:10):
be able to pull off, so it should be, in
my opinion admire. Yeah, and look, there's been so many
situations where combat sports have got people out of difficult
positions in their lives.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Absolutely no, yep, nicely said Ricardo. What did you think
of the fight?

Speaker 29 (01:32:25):
Hey, goodrag, can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Okay, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Perfectly fantastic.

Speaker 29 (01:32:29):
Yeah, look, I've never to be honest, Look, he was
Mike Dyson was obviously part of our childhood. Yeah, I remember,
you know, being at school year seven fighting Bus Douglas.
We all used to just wear class and just go
go into one of the common rooms just to fight,
just to watch them fight. There was I've never I've
never watched the boxing.

Speaker 22 (01:32:44):
Fight where I felt so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Yeah, I felt right.

Speaker 29 (01:32:47):
We knew the guy. We knew the guy like he
was part of our childhood. And just looking at the
decline of Mike Tyson, it's one of those it's one
of those sayings, Hey, you know, the mind is willing,
but the body is not.

Speaker 15 (01:32:58):
You could tell.

Speaker 29 (01:32:58):
I don't know. My father used to box. Yeah, I
grew up sort of in their boxing environment, and it
just felt like it was he was just going off.
He was instinctive. He was going off muscle memory, the
way he used to bite his gloves, but at the
same time in his previous fights he was biting gloves,
but his body was moving, his legs were strong right
then and there, he was just biting the gloves, but
it was just muscle memory. He wasn't throwing any punches.

(01:33:20):
I just felt so sad. My daughter, Yeah, I feel bad,
But my daughter was watching it with me. She doesn't
know anything about my pass and she goes, Dad, I
so feel sorry for this man.

Speaker 22 (01:33:29):
He's so old, so slow, what's wrong?

Speaker 29 (01:33:32):
And then I just felt so bad for him. To
be honest, Yeah, Riccardo.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Riccardo, he seemed to me older than fifty eight. I
you know, I bought him to the hype. I watched
all the training and I thought he was going to
throw some punches. I didn't think he had a chance
to win, really, I mean, I hoped against hope. But
were you were you surprised how wobbly he was when
he came out.

Speaker 29 (01:33:53):
He was he was you know, you only had to
listen to you know, the legend Roy Jones. You know,
his legs are gone moving.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
He tripped. Actually, my person actually tripped a little bit
on his walkout, and I thought, oh no, this isn't good.

Speaker 29 (01:34:07):
I know, And just the way he went back to
the corner, and then the way he was screaming, it
was like he was crying.

Speaker 19 (01:34:12):
He just I just felt like.

Speaker 29 (01:34:14):
He didn't need to be there, he didn't want to
be via, I think, to be honest, after the fresh run,
I thought, oh, something special is going to come along,
because he was quite good.

Speaker 16 (01:34:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 29 (01:34:24):
He just came out like, you know, okay, he's got
the eight, but he came out you know, he's moving forward.
Then the second third, I just thought, oh no, you know,
if it's the money to pay him twenty million plus more,
you know, he's the legend and things like that, he
does not deserve to be in their ring. If it's
for the money, you know, we need to look after
this man.

Speaker 32 (01:34:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:34:41):
I know he's had a bad pass and things like that,
and it's all controversial, but look, you know, Tyson's he
looks like when you see him now, he looks like
he's a good guy. He's sort of you know, he's
looking he's sort of reminisced on his past and he's
trying to do good for the community, for his family
and things like that. But look, I don't want to
see him again. Like they interviewed him after the fight,
you want to fight again and he said, I don't know,

(01:35:04):
like he need to hang up a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Year old Thank you so much for you call Ricardo.
So just a confirmation on that text before whether it
was pro or anti anti. Otherwise I would not have
used the word primitivity. That was But I mean I
like a bit of primitivity. I mean, I think, you know,
we live such sheltered lives and we're taken away from from,

(01:35:28):
you know, the bare reality of what it is to
be a human. So watching a bit of primitivity, I
think it's good for the I think it's good for
the soul. Yeah, you know, I don't think you know,
you don't you don't want people fighting outside the ring
if you can possibly help it. But in the ring,
go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call quick text for the break, guys. I don't
get any of that fighting box sing. It's absolute rubbish,
so much emphasis on head knocks and rugby. Then they
get in the ring and do that trash. I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
I think that's a really really interesting point that you
make there. And I think about this a bit. So
we've got so much focus on the head knocks and rugby,
and then you've got a sport where you're actually just
trying to punch people in the face constantly, and you
celebrated if you knocked someone out.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
That is an interesting emy, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
It's an interesting one, that one. Yeah, a good point. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Okay, so, oh one hundred and eighty teen eighty is
the number to call. We'll go to one more caller
before the break, just go to Peter.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
We'll go Mark. Okay, Mark your thoughts.

Speaker 32 (01:36:29):
That's pretty humiliating, a really for those fighters, really. I
mean I saw a few tiktoks of Mike types and
doing training. He looked pretty pretty good, but there's obviously
something seriously grow with him. Yesterday, Yeah, did you hear?

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Did you hear? Mike that? He tweeted out that he'd
had some serious health issues beforehand and had been rushed
to hospital a couple of times. That hadn't been announced
to us, So I'm not sure the exact details on that,
but he's claiming some serious health issues.

Speaker 32 (01:37:00):
Yeah. Well, that's I mean, he cooked, like get in
the ring and he didn't even try a punch. I mean,
I thought he'd come in and least throw a few punches,
I get a bit tired of whatever, and then sort
of stayed out. But he didn't even throw a punch.
It look like he could harden stand up.

Speaker 10 (01:37:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:37:18):
Yeah, looks to the pay per view, but it was
pretty pretty sad to watch someone, you know, forty years
past the prime, Yeah, fighting a young guy just seen well,
and part.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Of you goes, well, he's not. He's had his financial problems.
In fact, I think I read somewhere that he was
four hundred million dollars in debt at some point, but
he's managed to work his way back through business then
and stuff. But he still kind of needs the money.
And that was the look at of it that he,
you know, the twenty million dollars he was getting paid
was a huge part of the reason he was there,
as you can imagine.

Speaker 32 (01:37:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think getting paid twenty million, most
of us would get in the ring with Jake Paul,
But I don't think that wouldn't imagine too well against.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
That, it's a great question, would I get in the
ring with Jake Paul for twenty million. I probably would.
I mean, I'd get my ass handed to me, but
I'll probably do it for twenty million.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
It's a lot of money. Yeah, Mark, thank you very much.

Speaker 26 (01:38:12):
Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is number call.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
It is twenty four, the issues that affect you and
a bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath and
Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
You've talked, said be we're talking about the Mike Tyson
fight and the weekend versus Jake Paul. This text on
nineteen nine two. Come on, guys, we saw in training
compared to what we saw in the fight leaves anybody
who knows boxing no doubt. It was a fixed fight.
Tyson had every opportunity knock Jake over. Mike was holding back.
That's that's interesting. I'll admit I'm someone that doesn't know
anything about boxing, So there you go. But I do

(01:38:45):
enjoy it and I do watch it. But Peter, you
want to talk about Netflix and bidding for other sports.

Speaker 19 (01:38:52):
Yeah, it wasn't about to me. It wasn't about the book,
the boxing. I couldn't see a fifty eight year old
man competing in any way worth the old Jake, I
thought it was. To me it was Netflix been there
need to bigger a bit on big events. You know,
have a Netflix account cost thirty bucks a month, Sky

(01:39:15):
or any other and coshia hell of a lot more
Netflix as worldwide. And look, they even advertised a NFL
game on Christmas Day if we didn't get that. So
I think this was purely about money. Jake, Paul's all
about money.

Speaker 10 (01:39:30):
He's an influener.

Speaker 27 (01:39:31):
He hasn't made.

Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
Shy of that.

Speaker 19 (01:39:34):
And it was it was sad of seeing Mike kind
of kind of be like that given what we saw
in the in the early days. And but for me
it was the fights beforehand. The woman's fight really showed
some sill there and didn't want to be in the ring.

Speaker 11 (01:39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Yeah, Now that's interesting what you say about Netflix and
doing the live sport. It's sort of turning Netflix into
a broadcaster. And I always wonder with TV and Z
in New Zealand. I know that they've got the rights
to the Breakers, but if you want to survive as
a New z And is a terrestrial channel, and that's
this is what's happened in the US. You know, the
top hundred most watch shows every year in the US
are all NFL games. And if broadcasters want to survive now,

(01:40:18):
they have to do live sports, and they have to
do events, events that people tune into. The Black class,
for example, on TV and Z is one of the
highest rating things they do. Live sport is the future.
And you know the problem for the likes of TV
and Z in New Zealand is Netflix are now coming
in as well. So if I was if I was
in charge of TV and Z, I would spend every

(01:40:39):
cent they have and borrow money to just sign up
to the rights to every single sporting event they can,
every single league, they can get Netty, get basketball, whatever
it is, and you put that on after seven sharp
at a night and you'll you'll get people people tuning in.
But yeah, the big dogs like Netflix are coming in there,
and even YouTube are starting to do live sport broadcasting.

(01:41:02):
Apple's doing some baseball in the States, So they're all
coming for the live sports. That's where the money is.

Speaker 30 (01:41:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:41:10):
Another question I have is how do the judges score
seventy eight to forty two, seventy eight to twilve or
whatever it was when Mike never threw that many functions.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
That's one of the great mysteries in life is the
the that you know that, Yeah, different punches are worth
different amounts, and it's it's it's very it's very suss.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Yeah, Peter, thank you very much. Just on the Netflix situation,
do you think there may come a time and I
agree with what you're saying that you lock in these
sports for those ten year contracts now, but do you
genuinely think there may come a time where Netflix looks
at the All Blacks and says we want a part
of that action.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Yeah, I mean I could see it happening, just coming
in and getting global sporting events. But live, live is
where it's at now. And TV, I mean, Netflix is
destroying you know, terrestrial broadcasting by having and Netflix and
the other streamers are destroying it by having you know,
the dramas or the whatever you want to want on

(01:42:10):
tap when you want to watch it, right. Yeah, But
those moments where it's live and you have to watch
it now and everyone's talking about it, that is absolutely huge.
I was watching the All Blacks on the weekend and
you know, you know, watch it live, and then I
got even I got twenty minutes off Live, yeah, for
whatever reason. And even then that second that you're twenty

(01:42:31):
minutes off, you'd feel like you're missing out on something.
It's not nearly as visceral, especially since you can't go
into your phone because you all your WhatsApp threads are
busting with spoilers. But you know that that Live is
absolutely everything, absolutely everything, and Netflix are very smart, so
they're becoming a.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Broadcaster absolutely, Lindsay, what's your take on the fight?

Speaker 28 (01:42:51):
I'm just perplexed, guys, like, we're all talking about how
great the.

Speaker 20 (01:42:55):
Boxing was in the UFC is, but we always get.

Speaker 28 (01:42:58):
Complaints around contact and rugby and league. So how can
people on one hand think that UFC's all right for
their kids or boxing's all right, but rugby's not, or
league not.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
It's it's such a look. I totally agree, and I
don't get it myself, because you've got a sport that's
doing everything and being hamstrung by you know, any kind
of head knock at all is becoming yellow or a
red card and a rugby and yet you're one hundred
percent right, Lindsay. And then we all get together and
watch a fifty eight year old man getting punched in

(01:43:29):
the head and we seem to be okay with it.
It doesn't make any sense at all. But I guess
I'm a hit of hypocrit on that.

Speaker 28 (01:43:37):
And then because I know people are putting their kids
in jiu jitsu and all the stuff because they want
them to be MMA fighters, and then they're the ones
that will complain.

Speaker 33 (01:43:45):
About other contact sports.

Speaker 23 (01:43:47):
I just my mind is boggled.

Speaker 11 (01:43:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
It's interesting though with the UFC though, because they have
got a pretty heavy health situation and Dana White's always
been invested heavily in that and they haven't had any well,
I mean, this isn't a great level to go for,
but they haven't had any fatalities in the UFC at all,
where whereas boxing, because the entire focus is on punching
people in the face as well. You know, he did

(01:44:11):
some body shots as well. But but boxing arguably is
worse than UFC. But yeah, I totally get your point, Lindsay.
We've got all these these We've got the rugby union
and league really worrying about head shots, and then we've
got another sport where people are punching each other in
the face.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Yep, Lindsay, Thank you very much, Rob. Did you love
the fight? Love the show?

Speaker 30 (01:44:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
I did. I watched a bit of it. But I
do feel sorry for Tyson. He's made as he's made
his life, and he's he's a legacy champion, although he's
done some bad things. But yeah, I think we just
need to leave him alone. You know, he agreed to

(01:44:55):
the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well the thing is that you if you
get off with enough money, then you will agree to it,
and and that seems like the case there. Although he
does have his marijuana brand that he's selling, like Tyson,
and he's apparently making a million a months doing that.
Oh well, so he's got some money coming in. But
he did have huge debts. But you did feel like
he was there, although you know, he at one point

(01:45:18):
I was saying his family, he's in a good space,
a better space than he's ever been, but he wanted
to test himself against something. What his justification his own
mind was, Whether that's true or he just wanted the
twenty million dollars, I don't know, but it was definitely sad.
There was Yeah. I mean he threw something like sixteen
punches in the entire fight.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean genuinely because he is an icon
on I imagine you were a fan of her, of
Mike Tyson's and his heyday was that going through your
head when you watch them stumble out while he was
walking up to the boxing ring and then the performance
was a big party, thinking, man, that's iron Mike. What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Yeah, Well what happened was that he's fifty eight years old.
That happens to all of us. It's just the truth.
Someone points out here rugby players are running at full
speed when they're colliding. UFC don't hit as hard because
the gloves are only four ounces. It's interesting. I've took
to a lot of rugby over the years about the
head knocks, and one of the worst head knocks you
get is when you're knocked back and then your head
and you hit the back of your head. Those kind

(01:46:15):
of head knocks are pretty pretty bad, and it's pretty
hard to experience that kind of head knock in UFC
just because you're not someone's not running at you from
twenty meters back at pace.

Speaker 11 (01:46:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Is that the whiplash? That's what does the damage?

Speaker 14 (01:46:27):
Is it?

Speaker 10 (01:46:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
I think it's the back of your head hitting the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Yeah, that would do it. Yeah, oh one hundred and eighty.
Ten eighty is the number to call. It is ten
to four.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
B seven or four barrund What did you think about
the fights?

Speaker 33 (01:46:54):
Yeah, we look. I think everybody's of the opinion at
work stayed. I know a little bit about botting, having
bossed myself, and you're looking at the tapes of the
preparation for Mike and is going at less than a
first off the speed in the fight, so normally it's
a lover better in a fight than you will do

(01:47:14):
in training. And yeah, that's appointing to see. But one
of the were just a view in terms of the
commentaries around it knocks in the rugby that we take
so excurious anything above the shoulders versus we're all getting
amped up when somebody gets knocked out in a boxing
or an MMA fight. And I think the context that

(01:47:37):
you've got to keep in mind for that people forget
easily is you choose to do a support based on
your skill level or what you are comfortable in doing so.

Speaker 32 (01:47:48):
Not everybody's going to.

Speaker 33 (01:47:49):
Play soccer or everybody's going to play rugby, and the
same thing with boxing and MMA, so you know what
you're getting into and what you're signing up for. When
you play a rugby, you don't sign up to.

Speaker 32 (01:48:02):
Take a head knock.

Speaker 33 (01:48:04):
That's why those rules are so strictly administered. Taking place
wrapping myself. You know, when you're stuck on the end
of a crumb where you're held up like them all,
and somebody comes running in from the side and he
gives you the old soldier in the rift, it's not
very kind. So at least in a boxing match, you

(01:48:28):
know that you prepear to defend yourself at all times,
keep your hands up, you're allowed to punch back, and
you can move away, and there's obviously all the techniques
that you're trained for, coreparations for that, so you're not
just standing there and taking it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Yeah, that's a very good point. I had actually thought
of that, but anyway, it's been a great discussion this hour.
I enjoyed the undercards of the fight, and look, there's
something about me that loves the primitivity you were that
I've learned of combat sports, even weird spectacles like a
fifty eight year old man fighting a twenty seven year
old And look, I'm a wimp. I traded and kick
boxing for years, but I'm so pathetic. I broke my
back doing the sit ups and training, so I can't talk.

(01:49:03):
But yeah, I love the big first head up and
leg and I love the big hits and rugby union
just doing a bunch of other people do Does that
make us bad people or just people? Hard to say?

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Nicely said thank you very much for today. We will
do it all again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
And hey, give them a taste of Kiwi from me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
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