Full Show Podcast: 17 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you great, you said, as Welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show Podcast number one six three. We've just
got off here. I got pretty heated at the end.
I've been called a more on a lot over the
text machine at Newstalk ZB, but I think today takes
the cake for the most abuse I've ever got.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, someone did mention this was one of the top
twenty dum dumbest things you've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
And it's not easy to get into the top twenty
dumbest things I've ever said to break into that that
that that incredibly competitive zone of stupid things that I've said.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
To get on the highlight reel. That stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Even it's like it's like being a Formula One driver.
There's only there's only twenty slots. Yeah, and if you
can get in there, you know, it's absolutely incredible. I mean,
I don't know if any anyone will have a podium
with the stupidest thing I've ever said.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I mean, that's that's hard to get in there.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
But you know, just just to be in the conversation
of the stupidest things I've ever said.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
To get a personal best today, you know one of them.
That's impressive, So.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Let's and out for that. Also some fantastic of really
really quite heartbreaking.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Stories from.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Injuries and unfortunate incidents that have happened to people when
they've been traveling around the world, and I think the
message from that is don't go overseas.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Without travel insurance. But it was a great show. I
had a fantastic time. Download, subscribe, give us a review,
tell your friends and family.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
And Gavin mctathe all right, okay, love you.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
But the big stories, the big issues, the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons
News Talk said the.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Very very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Thursday's show.
Fantastic to your company. As always, you're in the right
place for an afternoon of entertainment. Yeah, that's right. We've
carefully hiffed together a very very competent show for the
next three hours. Yep, we can promise you that. Absolutely. Hey,
just quickly before we get to the show apropos of nothing,
but I need some ideas on what to do with

(02:11):
a heck of a lot of papaya. You've come into
some papaya. I've come into some papaya. And I'll tell
you the story very quickly. So we've had these three
trees out the back of our garden and they've been
fruiting some sort of fruit. I had no idea. I
thought it was some sort of piss. Then a Ma,
the handyman, came round to fix the toilet and he
points outside and he said, what are you going to
do with all those papaya? So what do you mean papaya?

(02:32):
So you got You're inundated with papaya. So now I've
got literally dozens and dozens of these beautiful papaya, and
I've got no idea what I'm going to do with
all of them.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, it's a lovely, fleshy, melany kind of fruit. To
just do what you do, chop it up and put
it in fruit salads.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Mate, I can only have so much fruit salad and
put it on my corneres. Bring a papya, and Oli,
bring a papya, and Ali that I'll give you a papye. Andrew,
do you want a papya? How many papyra have you got?
I've got ten sittings standing by, ready to go five
of those. Okay, you'll take five. They need to go
somewhere because they write me up very very fast.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Beautiful color, Well, Papaya is a beautiful color and important
to Kiwis, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Because it's the color of McLaren.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Bruce McLaren, when looking for a color for his IF
one cars, he decided that Papya would be good.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
And do you know why I picked papye?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, not just because he grew papya in his backyard
in Auckland, but because he was so smart, Bruce McLaren,
Great New Zealander. He realized that the color papye would
stick out in the black and white broadcasts more than
other colors.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
What a genius.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
So he was more than red, more than green, which
was some of the other options. And Papya made the
cars pop in a black and white broadcast.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
So the jeez makes you proud, doesn't it? To this
day McLaren's have a beautiful Papya color. Love it well?
If you want to papya nine two ninety two, and
I'll try and sort you out onto today's show. After three,
freeze your Papya. This person says yeah, but again, I've
got more than a dozen pa pie I've only got
a tiny little freezer. Can't make a papye cake. You

(04:00):
can make dry them, says oh yeah. Dehydrated fruit a
bit too close to the old beef Wellingtons.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
A tie Papya salad is apparently amazing. Okay, all right,
so there's so much to do with Papa.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I've got some work to do this week. And jeez,
I live an interesting life, don't I. Right, half to
three o'clock and that ends our Papy A chat for
the show Better Living everybody after three o'clock. Japanese walking
can just thirty minutes a day of what they are
calling Japanese walking. And when I say they TikTok it's
the latest trend. Help you get in shape. You're not

(04:33):
quite sold on this.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
No, like everything on TikTok, it's lazy, I believe, I mean,
but you know I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Does this kind of fitness actually do anything?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Because in my book, maybe I've got old fashioned values
on this. But a walk isn't fitness. It's a walk,
which is great for your mental health. And I love
a walk. I love going for a walk. You know
dog Colin loves to go for a walk with me.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
If you're listening Colin, which sometimes he is because I
leave the radio at home. You're a good boy, Colin.
You're going to get a war.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh sure, A better be careful not to say, my god,
he'll be ripping the house pieces. But a walk is
an exercise, a runners exercise. Yeah, I don't care if
you're intoval walking fast or slow. If a walks, great
for your mental health.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
But it's not exercise. If you want to exercise run,
you are old school. If you're not sweating, you're not exercising. Yeah,
but that is and.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I reckon we flip between those two things. People's low impact,
high impact. I think Lawie's come back to high impact.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
That's going to be a good chat after three o'clock.
After two o'clock. Step parents, so Catherine's Wo's nagger, the daughter,
of course of Arnold. She has opened up about her
journey becoming a step parent. She married Hollywood superstar Chris
Pratt a few years ago. He's got a twelve year
old son from another marriage, Jack. But she said to
help her deal with becoming a step parent, she got
in a step parent coach. You know this so much.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
The text machine has blown up with papye chat. People
love talking about papya.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Put up a roadside stall Papya for sale. Done, there
we go.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'll take the papya. A few lemon or lime on.
Papya is yummy. There's so much papiya stuff. There're at
four hundred pop up. Donate them to food banks.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
This is going to be my side hustle going forward,
the papaya king.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
You can't just rock by a food bank and dump
off a dozen papya, can you.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh, give it a try and see what they say.
If they laugh on my face, I'll report back anyway.
So step parents, step parents, So this is going to
be a good chat. So she's in a very privileged
position to get a step parent coach. I didn't know
there was such a thing, but.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So let's try and create a step parent coach. Here
on O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
two nine two. Save you guys the money. How did
you manage it if you're a step parent and what
can go wrong? How do you earn the love? And
how do you discipline kids when you're not their biological parent?
That's because you get the line that you used to
scream at your step mother.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
You're not my real mom, yep. Or should you just
shut up and keep out of the way when you're
a step parent. That's going to be a great discussion
after two o'clock. Looking forward to your calls on that
one then, But right now, let's have a chat about
getting into trouble overseas. What was meant to be an
adventurous trip to Vietnam to mark the eighteenth birthday led
to teenager ending up in intensive care, unable to see

(07:10):
and needing help to breathe. Terrifying, So this is aori law.
She left for Vietnam a few weeks ago to celebrate
that birthday. It was a milestone with her older sister,
but tragedy struck and she discovered she may have a
very rare neurological condition. So the family, as they often
do in these situations, has set up a give a
little to try and help her pay for some of
that medical treatment and get her home. But this is

(07:31):
a situation many many people find themselves. And even when
you've got everything ticked off and you've got the insurance
and all the rest of it, There is so many
times where you have an injury or you get sick,
and you find yourself in a really, really tough position. Yeah,
what do you do.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
When things go wrong in another country badly, especially a
third world country where you don't speak the language. It's
quite terrifying, you know. In this poor young lady's case,
she's paralyzed. Yeah, thankfully she had her aunt and uncle
there to look after her. That you knew the ropes
in Vietnam. But terrifying you wake up paralyzed essentially in

(08:05):
another country. You go into the hospital, all you try
and explain your situation.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
They can't understand you.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, although you know it's not just third world countries,
but you know, the healthcare situation could be interesting in
places like the.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
United States of America. Huge there.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, you know, it's pretty good if you get injured
in Australia or the UK. I mean I got badly
injured in the UK and I was sorted out pretty
nicely by their health system.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, lucky the year in the UK.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
But you're right, yeah, I eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty.
We want to hear how you dealt with these kind
of situations in other countries and do you always buy
travel insurance?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call love to hear your stories and experiences.
It is thirteen past one.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So much papa chat. There's so many people that want
to take the papyre off your hands.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I've made promises I can't keep here. I'm going to
have to split up the papaya. So I've got your
texes hereSince is. I'll pay for the postage if you
send me the papaya. There's a lot of good deals
coming for the papaya, right, I'll sort it out.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
This has remind me of Kramer off Sigekaaya.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
It's just papaa fifteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
They'd be very good afternoon to you. And we're talking
about getting into trouble overseas, whether you got injured or sick.
Story in the Herald Today a terrifying experience for an
eighteen a year old New Zealander. Her name's Aori Law.
She found herself an intensive key unit in Vietnam. She
was there to celebrate her eighteenth birthday when she became
incredibly unwell. Have you got details of the Give a

(09:40):
Little page for this, yes, So if you go to
Give a Little and search for the headliners from Vietnam
to ventilation and you can try and help that family out.
So far, there are a lot of generous people that
have managed to raise a fair whack of the money
they were trying to but all the help they can get,
the better. And we're trying to get a hold of
one of the family members, so hopefully we can track
down her mum's stacy and have a chat with her

(10:02):
about what's going to be the next step forwards. But
love to hear your stories on eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, what do you do when things go badly wrong
medically in another country? Welcome the show, Brian, Hey, so.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, first time listener, second time course.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Welcome, let's call here.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
I tried to call earlier on.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
To let you know, Matt that and new Lynn is
the Precision Watch Company. Bro, They'll take care of your
watch anyway.

Speaker 8 (10:29):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well that the Precision Watch Company.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Yeah, the Precision Watch Company. They be so like the
watch people actually pretty fussy.

Speaker 9 (10:37):
They're not jewelers.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
They're like, I don't know that they've got a guitar,
Lucier there, watch specialists, Magnetella.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Anyway, Okay, it's just just just some background on that
for people that were listening at that point. I smashed
my watch and I was looking for a watchmaker. So
thank you so much, Brian. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Now you're moving on to your issue.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
Yeah, So, like I've been to the States maybe three times.
On my fourth bomb, I went with a girlfriend of mine,
just a friend, and she was.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Like, oh, you got to get insurance.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
I was like, insurance, Ah, I mean insurance, Like, Gon'll
be all right.

Speaker 9 (11:09):
I've been plenty of times.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
There's nothing that's going to go wrong.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
So anyway I got over there. Now, just a little
bit of backstory. When I was like in my late teens,
I got on a fight in an ice hockey match
and ended up getting a I had a piercing in
my lip and it damaged my guns in my front
tooth acutable waggley. Every now and again something would happen
and to get like a little absessed and a bit
of a all I had to do was go to
the I went in the dentist a couple of times.
They'd always be like, oh, and it cost me the

(11:33):
arm and a leg. So I figured out if I
just went to the doctor and got Eddy Violett could
be fixed in three days. And I was your uncle
carry on. So anyway, I was over there and this
thing flared up and I was starting to annoy me.
Went out and as you do in Vegas, you get
on it and whatever. You wake up the next morning.
And I was like, shit, I can bearely even breach,
like move my mouth. And so we were like, we're

(11:55):
going to go into the dentist. So we went to
a dentist and they're like, you're not a citizen. And
I was like, oh, well give it a sorry. I
just need I just need to any violot. Then so
I did get the insurance, so you know, and I
was like, oh, They're like, no, you got to go
back to your hotel and you've got to get a
like a house called by a dentist.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
And I was like oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (12:17):
And so he turns up.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
And he's like, oh no, there'll be eight hundred dollars
and I was like, oh, just his own insurance. And
he's like, no, you got to pay to that now, mate,
And I was like okay, and so he's like and
I said, so all right, where's mammy bought it? And
he's like, I can't give you a dentist.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
I was like, what what do you mean?

Speaker 7 (12:35):
So ended up going down to the hospital in Vegas there,
waited for about sixteen hours another like eighteen hundred dollars
for that weight, and finally got some.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Many bought it.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
They had penicillin, which was kind of caught found out
I was allergic to it. I didn't even know I
was allergic to penicillin, but as it happens, I was anyway,
so all good coming back. I had to sort of reclaim,
you know, I sort of pretty much had to break
the kiss, take your back so to cover all this
shit for my excuse meat for my teeth too. And

(13:07):
for nearly two I kept on receiving voices from the
hospital to pay this eighteen hundred dollars I would come
from a random emails and I thought I was being
like scammed, and so I kept on going to my
insurance coming and saying, hey, look I've already paid this,
like can you like, why are they still after me

(13:27):
and can you just deal them? And they're like, oh no,
we don't have any record of these people. Next thing,
I had a guy turned up at my door actually
in New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (13:36):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yeah, And he was like, Hi, I'm from such a
star alliance someone rather insurance Medical Global Medical and we
had reclaim out eighteen hundred dollars and I showed him
right then and now I was like, look, here's the payment,
here's the money coming out of my account. I don't
end I've been reimbursed by my insurance company. Like what's

(13:59):
going on here?

Speaker 9 (14:00):
And he was.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Oh, and that was the end of it.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh, Brian, you just cut out there at a critical moment.
But there's so interesting. So that their tentacles extended all
the way to New Zealand to try and.

Speaker 7 (14:13):
All the way they obviously had some person living in
a bunker and devon waiting for that moment they come
running out of there and be like, hey, we got one.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
We found them.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
He's in blah blah blah and Norbland and did that.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
And then when you when the person actually knocked on
your door, because you'd think once you're back in New Zealand,
you know that that's it. Once the person knocked on
the door, did you say it just stopped? They didn't.
They the email stopped, just stopped.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
All of it stopped. But the thing that get this,
how the hell did they know where I looked?

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, and so you didn't you didn't give you didn't
give those details when you when you were getting treated.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Oh yeah, I might have a I was pretty out
of it, yeah, my friend, and I was just like
smashing back everything legal and illegal to get the pain away.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
And because I don't know, tooth pain is so bad.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
I mean, hey, look, long story, long story short. Eight
years later, I've actually the tooth's gone now, so I
don't have that problem.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
But right, all right, I'm sure you get insurance.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Make sure you go with reputable insurance.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, good, Thank you so much, Brian. I mean that's
a lot of work to chase eighteen hundred bucks. So,
I mean, that's a lot of investigation going on. They've
obviously got a person in New Zealand that they hate.
They had to ropen. I would argue that would cost
the insurance company a lot more than eighteen hundred bucks
to go and track down Brian from New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, Wow, you would think, because you know situations and countries.
You get on the plane and you're like that, well
that's over because I'm out of the country.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
I can never go back again, but I'm out on
Golden Brian. Great story. Thank you very much. O. One
hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call. When
have you gotten into trouble overseas by being injured or
getting crook? Love to hear your stories. Twenty three past one.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
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Speaker 3 (15:54):
I know that boys need a single classroom to concentrate, right,
They really need to be able to not be distracted.
What about girls?

Speaker 9 (16:03):
I think probably there is a difference, a slight difference,
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at six am with Bailey's Real Estate on News Talk SEDB.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about getting into
trouble overseas, whether you got injured or sick. There's a
young Kiwi woman who has become very ill while holiday
and in Vietnam for her eighteenth birthday. The family set up
and give a little to try and get her home. Yeah,
and we were just talking to who was it before?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Sorry, Brian, Brian, Brian. We're just talking to Brian before
great call. And he was saying here he was chased
all the way to New Zealand for money owed for
some dental work that happened in Las Vegas. This person
that's Texa through New Zealand is pretty slack collecting hospital fees,
MI T fees, overseas student fees. We need to chase
the money like the Yanks do. This sexus is does

(17:10):
a broken heart qualify as an injury?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I think it does. Can you be great if you
could get insurance for a broken heart? You go into
a into a.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Marriage cousin, same people be pretty debilitated by a broken heart. Seefferently,
I'll say, you know I had a mate partner cheated
on him. He was bloody useless for months.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
It sucks a c. C. Schudicularly cover that. Gail. Welcome
to the show. Hi, Hello, n talk to you.

Speaker 11 (17:39):
Likewise, with regards to insurance, my husband is seventy one,
I'm sixty nine, are going to be sixty nine, and
we were traveling on a twelve day cruise through Asia,
and we took insurance in case there was an accident,
you know, the usual thing you would do. Now we

(18:01):
paid was it three hundred, six hundred dollars for the
two of us, and the course of the trip was
the flawless. But on the last day, my husband experienced
a serious setback with one of his pre existing conditions,
and so we ended up having to go to the hospital.
We got we went into a to Singapore's Yeah, to

(18:25):
Singapore's hospital. Fortunately we had the finances available through credit card.
He was seen by a specialist, admitted to the hospital,
treated and then released in the course of one day,
and we were able to rejoin our cruise ship. But

(18:46):
the grand total for the service was five grand, and
insurance did and insurance didn't cover a penny. Yeah, well,
we're we're older. And when you look at the application forms, everything, this,
this rouse, anything that's pre existing, it's so much. Just

(19:08):
even if you so much has even had a doctor's
appointment forward stomach ache. They'll they'll not allow you to
have stomach issues.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
It's terrifying for a lot of people when they get
at the insurance thinking they're going to be okay, and
they make account and get they coming back at them.

Speaker 11 (19:28):
Yes, And that's my point is that when you're traveling,
you have to bear in mind that if you have
any existing condition, or any suggestion of an existing condition,
you have to take into account that you may have
to pay for that.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, thank goodness you had the five thousand dollars to pay,
or else what would have happened.

Speaker 11 (19:50):
Yes, at our age and traveling. Fortunately we've retired well
enough off that we can afford to do it. But
a lot of people can't do that, especially you know,
the younger ones.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, thank you so much for your cool Gail. It's
interesting with travel insurance. We were just talking about this before,
won't we tie left and I get trouble insurance, But
I've never looked at what.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
It covers me for. Yeah, I just go. I've got
travel insurance. Yeap.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know you don't go as a pre existing conditions
as gales. This situation was there. I mean, I've got
no idea what it covers. I've never had to use it,
but I have no idea what it covers.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Well, I told you the story of my older brother's
friend when they were working up a mountain in California
and he tried to break up a fight in a
bar and he got hit and lost a few teeth
and had it had travel insurance, but it didn't cover
dental and ended up costing him twenty five thousand dollars. Wow. Yeah,
so that was a real blow. I mean that was
the end of his trip over in California working in

(20:43):
a mountain. He had to come home and try and
find that twenty five game.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
If you travel overseas, says Grants, no matter where you're traveling,
travel insurance and medical insurance cover as a must, or
you can end up in debt for years and years
and years. Anyone who doesn't do this.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Deserves what's coming to them, ruthless. Thank you very much, Grant. Yeah,
there's a lot of people saying that. Yeah. Oh wait,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to cool.
Love to hear your stories. We've got railings standing by
then we'll pick this back up. Yeah, we've got Pete
who's mum ran into trouble in joe Burg. All this
is going to be spicy. Hal past one.

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Speaker 3 (22:34):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're discussing the story
of a young New Zealand woman called Ory Law. She
was in Vietnam to celebrate her eighteenth birthday and became
incredibly unwell. She was diagnosed with what's called GBES. It's
an autoimmune disease in which the body attacks itself instead
of attacking an affection, leaving her paralyzed. So the family

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has set up a give a little to try and
get her home. And a lot of people are asking
about travel insurance and they did have medical insurance. So
this is to cover the costs that are not covered
by that insurance policy. Yeah, and we're hearing that a lot.
You've got to check the fine print when you take
out travel insurance. And I don't think I don't. I
never do that.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, speaking of fine print, different story, but I got
in trouble overseas by getting a girl pregnant and her
turning up on my doorstep a year later. My advice
is contraception that's good insurance as well.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, that is very good advice. Thank you for that,
Thanks for that.

Speaker 10 (23:28):
Muz.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Here we go, guys.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
My wife went to America as part of a musicool
group called a virus that went to her heart. Two
hour chop, a flight to Phoenix hospital, five days in
the cardio ward. Total bill over one hundred thousand dollars American.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Had sweaty palms for a time while the insurance company
considered the claim. Eventually they paid. Thankful for the cover.
Don't leave home without it. That's from Cliff think if
your text close, great story, windy, yeah, Hi.

Speaker 13 (23:56):
Good afternoon guys, my voice, I have.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
A coll ah. I quite like it. It's kind, it's husky, yeah.

Speaker 13 (24:02):
Good, which I thought like that. Travel insurance, guys, I
have a case story on that really, and I think
anyone who goes away overseas without travel insurance is that's mad.
We use a broker based in Hamilton. I am a
transplant recipient, so that's one thing that only one company

(24:22):
will actually cover me in New Zealand. Company's course, what.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
If your head transplanted? If you don't mind me asking,
Wendy A lover A lover.

Speaker 13 (24:29):
Yep, okay, so yeah, it was you put me off
track here.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Sorry, that's okay.

Speaker 13 (24:36):
You have to declare all your existing conditions and anything like,
you know, made surgeries, et cetera. So we do that
and the insurance company, which is cover more will actually
decide whether they're going to cover you or not. We're
both in our late sixties, so you know there's a
bit of degeneration there as well. But they cover mostly

(24:59):
everything for us so far, so you do pay for that.
It's not overly cheap. But I give an example back
in twenty sixteen, I went to a conference in Dallas.
I slipped and I broke my leg badly. I had
to have surgery that was well over one hundred and
twenty K with the surgery alone.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Wow, And they did ask you if you've got insurance
straight off the bat when they start.

Speaker 13 (25:22):
Looking at it, they did ask. They didn't first of all,
because they have two types of ambulance, one for the
I don't know, one for the cheaper light hospitals, et cetera.
And they took me to a pretty nasty hospital and
Dallas somewhere, and I didn't like the look of it
for a start. And it was a medical conference, so
some of the nurses and doctors that lived they said, no,

(25:42):
you're not staying here, and they took me to a
university site hospital, which was quite professional looking, and they
were concerned about well, they were concerned about the fact
of them getting paid, I guess. But once a knew
I had that, everything was okay. So they went I
went through the surgery. I stayed with a couple of
friends after then, because they arranged for a nurse to
fly over. An insurance company arrange for a nurse to

(26:03):
fly from in Zed to Dallas, put her up for
a night so then meet with me and fly back
with me first class to New Zealand because I needed
various medications and injections over the flight.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Wow, so that didn't cost.

Speaker 13 (26:18):
Me your sin? I mean I couldn't. I mean I
would have had to have paid it somehow when I
got back. But now we were into cruising and we're
coming out to do our eleventh and you need good
cover for that, and we pay anywhere between one and
two grand, depending on what part of the world we're
going to. But we know we're fully covered even for
our pre existing conditions.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Is there any places that you wouldn't go to just
because no matter what insurance you have, the facilities wouldn't
be there to deal with you.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Know what what you're what you've got your your liver situation.

Speaker 13 (26:50):
Yeah, well I have a perfectly fine liver. Now, there's
nothing actually wrong with my liver. That's in the fact,
it's actually not you know.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
It's a new one.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, it's a good liver.

Speaker 13 (27:00):
Yeah, well it is. And and actually there's nothing much
else wrong except for degeneration. Really, but what what does
annoying me is no other it will take me because
I actually had a liver tumor, and so if I
tried another company, which I did, I said, you know,
I have a new liver and they said, well why
did you get a transplant? It so because I had
a tumor. Oh sorry, no, we can't cover you. I said, well,

(27:21):
tell me that if I had breast cancer and had
it removed.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
What I recovered?

Speaker 13 (27:26):
Oh yes, I said, well I don't have the liver anymore,
so I don't have cancer. No, sorry, I can't cover you.
Which it's a bit I thought. I don't know why.
I can't quite get to the bottom of that. But anyway,
it doesn't matter because I found what I considered to
be the best cover in New Zealand, and I belonged
to a group of many liver transplant recipients. So when
they want to go and travel, the same question comes out,
who's going to cover me? And that's cover more. They're

(27:48):
amazing and estilian those companies. And if you don't, if
you don't make you know, do the proper job and
check out for proper insurance. Don't trust your bank cards
because I used that once and we had to cancel
a trip because of COVID and they wouldn't cover.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
It's a good point. That would be a cheap ones, wouldn't, Wendy,
you know, buy and large. I think if your travel
insurance is covered by a card, they would go for
one of the ones that don't have as much cover
as you would get independently. Just my assumption here. If
I'm wrong, oh, e one hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, thank you so much for you call Wendy. Good
luck with your your cold and your croaky throat and
your liver and your travel.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, good luck. Good a story, all right, We've gotta
play some messages when we come back. We've got full
boards if you can't get through, Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, and.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
We've got to go to Johannesburg where Pete's mum has
got into trouble.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, we've teased that a lot. So Peter's coming up next.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks, they'd.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Be very good afternoons. You have you found yourself in
trouble overseas after being injured or found yourself sick. This
is a heck of a text a get a guys.
A California hospital wouldn't let my mate's dad out unless
he paid one million New Wes dollars. It took a
while before insurance company came through. His sons were at
the point of smuggling him out the back door. Wow.
And so he.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Had an insurance. So yeah, had insurance at that stage.
That's interesting, Pete, Thanks for holding on.

Speaker 14 (29:14):
No problem, Jay, Matt and Tyler love the show.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
Yes.

Speaker 14 (29:19):
About twelve years ago, my mum was traveling through Africa
with my sister and her husband and family and they
dropped her at bough at bots at an airport in
Botswana where she was flying to joe Burg to fly
home the pretty much the next day, staying overnight in
joe Big. But she got she they dropped at the airport.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
She was fine.

Speaker 14 (29:42):
She got to joe Burg and she was disorientated and
she was sort of wandering around and a guy was
there to pick her up, but she, like I said,
she was quite sort of not quite with it. But
he eventually worked out who it was and took her
back to the accommodation and wondering what was up. And

(30:04):
that night she fell over and broke her collar bone
and did some stuff to herself, and he tried to
get her into three different hospitals in Johannesburg, but none
of them would take here. She had visa travel insurance
and they didn't like, for whatever reason, the fact that

(30:24):
she liked her whatever insurance she had, And so the
guy at the hospital had to end up paying thousands
and thousands of rain to get her into a hospital.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
In joe Burg.

Speaker 14 (30:38):
And so, as a family, we get a call late
at night and I was watching a Hurricanes game. My
dad calls me and said, something's happened to mom. She's
in the hospital. And so me and my brother, my
brother in lawa Ed's sister were in the middle of
the Kalahari did it so they couldn't be contacted. And

(30:59):
me and my brother jumped on a plane the next day. Yeah,
flew to joe Burg and literally walked in the door
into her room and the neurologist came in with an
ex with the skins and that, and they found a

(31:19):
big brain tumor. So wow, yeah, it was it was
a shocker. But yeah, the the insurance, I'm not I
can't remember the exact details around why she got turned
away for from three other hospitals, but it was very,

(31:40):
very fortunate that the guy was willing to put up
his own money because she knew no one over there,
you know, there was in Johannesburg. So yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
And how did that all play out with your with
your mum's tumor.

Speaker 14 (31:56):
Not Well, she passed away ten months after that.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 14 (32:02):
Yeah, but no, but I mean the the insurance came
through in the end. They covered mine and my brother costs,
and they managed to track down my brother in law
and sister. Someone left a note by a tent and
it all worked out and Ajoe so the night. So
it was and they paid the two doctors, a doctor

(32:23):
and a nurse to escort her home in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
So your mom must have been a great person to
have so many family members that are willing to drop everything,
you know that loved her and willing to drop everything
and go and help out.

Speaker 14 (32:37):
One hundred percent. Yeah, and she was a royal in
tripid traveler. She'd think to Africa sort of you know,
ten times and loved the place. And yeah, she was, yeah,
amazing person.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Did you manage to get her back into New Zealand
her for her treatment?

Speaker 6 (32:54):
We did.

Speaker 14 (32:54):
Yeah, she had surgery and Wellington and yeah, she just
kind of it was like the most aggressive brainch im
can pretty much get. So yeah, she time to like
nine months and passed away.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Oh sorry to hear that, Pete, But yeah, sounds like
a fantastic person and you sound like a fantastic son.

Speaker 14 (33:18):
Oh, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Than you're a good man, Pete. Thank you very much
for giving us a buzz.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I mean, that's going through something like that and discovering
it on the other side of the world.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, boy puts things into perspective, that's for sure. One
and eighteen eighty is the number to call. Love to
hear your stories. Colin. How are you?

Speaker 9 (33:37):
Yeah, very good, Thanks very much. Here, We're sorry here
that last one. Great show today, Thank you enjoying it.
My little one was I was on the third motorbike
tour from the States, and I'm pretty stafe for writing
rather Harley of course, always for a helmet accept us.
One particular moment, we're going we're in a national park

(33:59):
or out by mob place called Kenyon Lands, just up
from Marchers, and the slady pulled out in front of
me from the side roads and see me and I
collected her at fifty mile an hour. The head flamed
into the side of the car, did a big somersault
lander on my face on the other side. I ended
up with forty seven stitches on my head. I've broken

(34:20):
bones and a couple of snapped tendons, but that was okay.
Night in the hospital, she had to pay all the costic.
It was over forty thousand dollars for what had been
done because she admitted at the site because she thought
she killed me, and she admitted there on camera, and
that sort of stuff was there fault, she didn't see me.

(34:42):
That was all fine, got all that done. They wanted
to send me home, but I stayed there for the
next three three and a half weeks that the tour
was still to run side. There was half of the
van had travel insurance, and I can't believe anybody travels
overseas without travel insurance. I know a guy that lost
his freehold home because he couldn't pay the bills when

(35:03):
he got injured, because it was never going.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
To happen to him.

Speaker 9 (35:05):
But anyway home, and I contacted my travel insurance allience.
So I'm not sure where they are singing Australia, and
I told them they didn't have to cover anything at all,
but they were advised of it. And the day before
I flew back, they contacted me and told me that,

(35:26):
you know, because of what had happened, that upgraded me
from Premium economy to business class on the way home. Wow,
And I still, that's fantastic, thanks very much. I really
appreciate that. Oh no, you know, it was one of
those things and it didn't cost us anything something a
small christ pass and it's really great. So I came
in business class.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Wow, contacted a lawyer in.

Speaker 9 (35:46):
The States and ended up getting PAI out of nearly
one hundred and fifty thousand minus his fees, which was
thirty thousand third right about six meters. Yes, somehow rather
alliots must have been coming into the emails, and they
contacted the lawyer and told him he wasn't pay out
anything until they had got their money back for upgrading

(36:06):
me to business class. It was only about three or
four thousand dollars. But I've got me because of a
twist on when you can go to bloody help you
what they offered. Yeah, that's right, And I rang them
up and they were saying, no, no, no, you've got
to do this, and you've got to do that. And
I said, do you keep toe records of you of
you know, your phone calls to me? And she said yes,
And I said go back and check it because you

(36:27):
told me. I didn't ask, but you told me you
had upgrade me to business class. Yeah, and I thank
you very much for it. She says, oh, is that right?
I said, yes, you do anyway, and the sorry I
got me bunny, they didn't get this, and yeah, but
you know you've got to have and you know I'll
go back again it was It was just one of
those things. But yeah, and yes, I do still ride bikes.

(36:50):
I'm looking bike, but generally with.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
A helmet on. Now, Colin, can you take me back
to the moment, so you hit the ground, You're injured,
your face is being scraped up at fifty miles an hour.
How does the ambulance situation pay out in the States
play out in the States?

Speaker 9 (37:06):
Well, I was. I was out to it until both
believe the ambulance turned up when I, like I said,
it was only about five hundred minutes. We running going
two miles from where we stopped to the Ranger station
for a cold drinking and it was over forty degrees.
That's why I sort of left the helmet on the
back of the bike. And when I stuff running going
two miles to the ranger station.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yeah, bad idea.

Speaker 14 (37:25):
Yeah, I've literally.

Speaker 9 (37:28):
Traveled tens of thousands of miles in the state, always
with my helmet off.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Murvie's law. It's always at one time, isn't it. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
But when the ambulant said, they just picked me up,
put me on a stretcher because I've been in and
out of consciousness. Apparently, I kept on trying to stand
up and saying I'll kill them so and so I'll
kill us anyway to hold me down, and that was
that was all very good, and they just took me.
Nobody mentioned anything. I think right he runs to two

(37:56):
and had told them we had travel.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Right, right, because I was just wondering at what point
they go, have you got travel insurance?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
And decide what level of hospital they take here?

Speaker 9 (38:04):
You know, I think I think this crutch came because
she had that it was kidding because it was totally
her fault on video camera on go bro right, yeah, yeah,
and boy it cost her and am.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
I And how's your face now, Colin?

Speaker 9 (38:23):
Yeah, I've got to go. And the boys reckon. It
looked really coold, they said, as they do. They said,
when you hit the car, your body just went the
limp and you flew through the air like the bloody
you know, rag doll. And you did a somersault. And
I'm a big boy, I'm over one hundred and forty
kilos and they reckon. I did a graceful somersault and
landed flat on my face on the other side. That
was fine, but the forty seven stitches of a head

(38:45):
sort of stung for a while, and I was pretty
black and blue. But the funniest thing about that every
night we would travel, the guys and be riding their
bikes and I'd be in the van with the bed
Mexican and we'd get to the motels and stuff like that,
and of course I just put my talks on and
go and hop them to the throwing pool. And I
looked a sight Ben in the people keeps for pointing.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
You know, great story.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I've been in that situation when I got mugged in
London once. My face was just massive, my tongue was
hanging out, my lips were everywhere, scaring children, you know,
just walk around like cousy mo moto with people avoiding
me and screaming and pointing.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Seven to two beg very shortly.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Listening to that in Tyler, Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking
your calls on eight hundred and eighty. It's Matt Heath
and Tyler Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
News TALKSB News Talks HEB. It is four to two,
a couple of texts to the news and then we're
going to carry it on.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, that's why we've got so many calls and texts
coming through that we might do this for a little
bit further after the.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Break, shall we Yeah? Yeah, so many bee water chat.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, Matt, my mate crashed a scooter in Balley fifty
thousand dollars and cost no insurance as he didn't tell
insurances he would be riding scooters.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
So no coverage. It's from Craig. Yeah, fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Never ever travel without travel insurance. This is the text
of my own experience while traveling in remote Western Australia.
I suffered a significant brain injury required a twenty eight
day and stay in hospital at the height of the
mining boom.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
There you go, all right, Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. We're going to
carry this on after the News, which is next.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
It'd be welcome back into the show. Seven past two,
and we've been talking about horror travel stories when you've
been in another country and found yourself getting injured or sick.
A young New Zealand woman or e law, she is
in a very sick state in Vietnam. As we speak.
She was over there for her eighteenth birthday, became incredibly
unwell and she's been diagnosed with what they call GBS,

(40:52):
an autoimmune disease in which the body attacks itself instead
of attacking and infection. So they're trying to raise the
money to get her back home.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Initially they just thought she was dehydrated at the hospital.
I took my time a while to work it out.
There is a given a little page to try and
raise some funds to help cover medical and travel costs.
They believe they do have of medical insurance, but there's
some additional costs.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Am I right?

Speaker 15 (41:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:12):
So what they We've been.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Trying to reach out to talk to someone from the family,
but we haven't been able to get hold of.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Them, and maybe that the mother is on our way
to Vietnam as we speak, but we are trying to
speak to someone from the family. I'm not judging them, Yeah,
I'm not judging them. No, no, And they did say.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I'm not saying don't go on the plane to Vietnam
talk to us, that's what you're implying to No.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
No, It certainly wasn't amplying there. But the line here
in the story was that they're raising costs that medical
insurance does not cover us their medical insurance. But there's
some things there that clearly aren't covered.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
What a great thing to give a little is? You know,
there's some stuff I give a little that I wouldn't
give anything to, but there's also it's a great opportunity
for people that need some money, you know. Yep, it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Absolutely. Yeah, there's some very good people out there that
donate to a lot of these causes. If you want
to go check it out, just go to give a little.
It's a headline from Vietnam to ventilation.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, eight hundred and eighty ten a t talking about
misadventures you've had overseas medical misadventures perhaps, Hey, guys, basic
travel insurance is an expensive If you can afford to travel,
you can afford to buy it without sounding harsh. I
get sick of these cries for help, expecting others to
bail them out. What's going on medically is horrendous enough
for the family back home, let alone worrying about the

(42:29):
financial costs, which could pretty much be solved by pressing
go on travel cover.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Seems like what's her name or ori that wrong?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Does have cover, and in this case, the assistance is
to get mom over there, which is totally understandable and
definitely worth contributing to the Give a little page from Lee.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Absolutely, some people weren't so in love with travel insurance,
so this Texas says travel insurance is gambling. It's for
timid people. Timid people shouldn't travel. I've been around the
world many times, had injuries. I just deal with it
and keep going. Don't give the bustards assent. Travel like
a man, Okay, phileas fogg. It's a bold person there.
I mean, who says they've been around the world. I

(43:11):
think this is a lie text.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah that feels like are young?

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I need to see your boarding passes? You've been around
the world? How many times? I've been around the world
many times?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Oh Yeahna, there's the dude next ye at the pub
is and he's saying directly around the world or too. Yeah, yeah,
it's not a bodier balloon? Did you do it? Do
it in eighty days? Yeah? Fully's fog here.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
This six is why as overseas travels so much more
dangerous than home. I don't have accidents at home. Why
would I have them?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Overseas. This is just silly skim mongering. I think.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I think the thing is you can have excidents overseas
when you're at home. You've got the support of being home,
You've got the ac C, yes, et cetera. You know
how things work. Yeah, overseas, you're often doing more adventurous things.
You're outside of your comfort zone. You don't know that
the systems, and look, no one knows when accidents are
going to happen exactly. Random things can happen to you.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
So there's a lot of hate for insurance companies, but
when you need them, hopefully they come through for you
if you pay your premiums. Is it just silly scam
angering to say that bad things can happen overseas.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I think it's I think it's a matter of record. Yeah,
that bad things can happen when you're traveling. But thank
you for your text. This one says I had a
very dodgy game of continental blackjack, big money twenty thousand
over of someone else's money in Bangkok, cheating, only just
got away live. That's slightly different.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, I don't know if insurance covers that one, but
it's a hell of a story. So some illegal gambling
and bangcock with someone else's money and you had to
get out of there. That's fantastic, Alan, you had a
motor accident in Thailand.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yeah, hey guys, Yeah, I went to Thailand in late May,
and I mean I've been over there numerous times in
the past, but prior to COVID, and this time I
dropped the ball. Before I had a tie precitle and
car license and also travel insurance every time. But this

(45:06):
time a bit of a brain fail and I picked
up my big, big turing bike over in the eastern
Thailand near Cambodia Loo and Rode. I did eight hundred
k on that in a couple of days and brought
it back to Patio where I've got a business there,
accommodation business. And I thought I was a ten foot

(45:26):
tall and bulletproof that. Two days later, I was on
a vespa in a busy street of Patio and I
got collected by another motorbike behind me and smacked me
to the ground and I ended up racking my hip
and it got quite a few abrasions, but that were nothing.
I couldn't feel there, so I pulled the bike.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Oh Allen you're still there.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
That wasn't pretty much heavy pain. But then the cops
arrived on motorbikes and that wanted license, license license. I
didn't care whether I was injured or not, and so
I managed to ring my I had a major's a
cop there, drinking mate. I managed to get hold of
him and he came and diffused the situation, and the

(46:16):
medical guy came on another motorcycle and patched up a
few of my abrasions in there and said, O hospital
hospital myself. No, no, I want to sort out the police
side of it first. ME and the other guy, a big,
heavy tie guy that was on the other motorcycle. He
hit the ground too, and he was injured a bit,
and so we went to the police station and it

(46:39):
was bloody painful, but after four and a half hours
we sorted it out and I paid the other guy
I turned on fifty dollars and the police fifty dollars.
We both signed a statement and he stamped it and
that was the end of it. So when was that
went back early June?

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Oh this year?

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Yeah? And yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
So I went back to my accommodation and I asked,
bloody really in pain code? The next morning, whether I'd
better go to toilet the shower before I go to
the hospital. It took me about fifteen minutes to get
off the toilet bullet sequels that lady's painful. Anyway, I've
broken the neck of my female bone on the leg

(47:25):
and so anyway, I go down to the hospital that
of US ten and within fifteen minutes they asked me
what medications are beyond blah blah blah blood pressure and
all that. They took that and wheeled me into X
rays and confirmed the hip that had broken and said, I,
well operated on you this evening at nine o'clock. So

(47:48):
they wheeled me into a private room, a private hospital,
and they actually specialized in knee and shoulder surgery. So
I went in there and the anthis came in. I said,
I only want a local in acetic. So about twenty
nine they wheel me into the theaters. The shot of

(48:11):
my spine and then the four and line. They start
operating and hear everything they were doing, and I thought,
and I'd already had to pay equivalent twelve grand I
transferred from New Zealand over there. And anyway, during the operation,
I thought, hell, this could be a bloody good thing

(48:32):
for all New Zealanders wait up to twelve months for
hip operations. So I worked with all out afterwards during
the operation. Kept me sane, and I can get everything
done over there for about seven grand cheaper than just
the operation here and staying at my accommodation for five weeks.

(48:56):
I've got interpreters and all that over there. So anyway,
three days I got out of the hospital three days
later and lucky I had cost me another three grand
and I was traveling business class, so wheelchaired with Singapore
Airlines bankot to Singapore, wheelchair back onto the plane to

(49:17):
back the christ It's it was really good that it's
just so you're coming right now.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
But yeah, well it's fucky.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I mean it sounds I mean you're heavily connected over there,
which was huge advantageous for you.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
I mean someone that wasn't might have been a you know,
I mean to the point where you've got to make
it's a cop that you can ring up to help you.
That's that's a huge advantage, isn't it. The cheapest part
was given the fifty to the cop.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
I still paying for a better controvert. So keep an
eye on my business over there.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
We need to hear more about this business.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Allen.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Who are you over there? There's some sort of mob operator.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
So basically not missed the big anyway.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
Ensure you're that anyway?

Speaker 3 (49:59):
And you so you recommend like getting everything fixed over there.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Well, I went to get my peace done over there
on the same day it and but I had to
change to get my hip done instead. Yeah, so that
I'll go back and get the teeth done there and
then I'll make sure I've got medical when you're next on.
There's some real horror stories, you know u K and

(50:25):
that where kids go over there racing round with no
helmet brain brain injuries, you know, like one hundred thousand,
two hundred thousand dollars. The hospitals are fantastic. The private
ones cost your money, ain't so?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Is it is there a little bit? Is the police
force over there? What is it like? Is there? Is
it a little bit corrupt?

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (50:47):
You pay for service.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Right and you and you pay for service cash?

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Or bear whatever is.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
There that does that get you out of more than
just an offender bender?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Giving me a police jacket wear that when you're in Thailand, boss,
and no one but police way to stop you. Wow,
I don't I don't think that works.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Sound like a good man to know, Ellen. I'll get
your number when and if someone Thailand I'll get in trouble,
I'll be calling you.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
So you Yeah, this time, you know, when he wanted
license license, my peace made a ride and there was
five cops at that stage, and my policemate went and
saw the boss cop that was there, and I never
heard anything more about my license after that.

Speaker 15 (51:39):
I gave the cop, the prosecutor, the head prosecutor a
thousand bart you know by bears.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
That you gave the head prosecutor a thousand bar?

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Yeah, which is probably how do you do that?

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Do you do?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
You do it out of my pocket?

Speaker 6 (51:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
So you got to shake his hand and there's there's
a thousand bar in the hand. Shake his hand.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Yeah, peaks for seats for your trouble, I said, Otherwise
we would have to wait till Monday to see all
the CCTV cameras and all that to ascertain who was wrong.
But being a foreigner, you're always wrong, so there's no
point trying to fight the system.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, yeah, right, So what would happen to me? Ellen?
I don't know any cops over in Thailand. If I
was to try that sort of operation, would it work
out well for me?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Of the city on and you just have to bring
me in. I'd tell my mate to help you.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
So how long were you in Thailand? So you run
a business in Thailand? This is very interesting for.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Me, commodation and commodation business there.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, and how long how long on the ground before
you had the connections and you knew how the system
works over there because you must have been for a
while pro partner.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
And I got a lot of ties working for me
here in New Zealand, so you know, I've got pretty
deeds of connections with Thailand. It's an awesome country. I
actually love it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, I've enjoyed my time over there.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
The hip field so cold back here, I can assure.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Thank you for your call, Ellen and a look into
your life.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah, fascinating.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
So get some travel insurance and also you know our connections, Yeah,
get some connections, bring some bringing Allen with you.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
It is nineteen pasts too, oh e one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Love to
hear your stories. We got into a bit of strife overseas,
and there's plenty of teacher to get to as well.
Back in a.

Speaker 10 (53:35):
Mow your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk
said be.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Very good afternoon, Tue twenty two past two. I was
in Thailand last year. Got a heart issue, so I
went to the hospital. Was told five k to stay
in Hospital of Knights to see the cardiologist. I said no,
thanks by and got on the plane home two days later.
But he didn't have Ellen's number. You would have sorted out.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
I went to the US for a brain transplant for
twenty million dollars. They gave me the brain of a
deceased top lawyer, and I found a loophole.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
In the contract.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
The brain transport ended up costing them ten million. So
now I'm comforty retired, but always seem to read a
lot of Lord books. Now that the full brain transport
is risky in any country.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Certainly is You know that is tough science to pull off.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, what an ignorant argument from the text to say
that you have accidents at home and don't get insurance
for that. My friend died when we were abroad and
didn't have insurance. We couldn't afford to get him back,
and the trauma was one hundredfold because of that. If
you die in your home country, you have support and
don't need shipping back or care. Everyone should have insurance.

(54:44):
I learned the hard way.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Love Sam. Thank you for your text, Sam. And that
was heading back from a previous text that said if
you have insurance, that you're soft.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah, heading back on the one that said why why
is overseas so much more dangerous than home? I don't
have accidents at home. Why should I have them overseas?
This is just silly scam angry always it this one.
Travel insurance is gambling. It's for timid people. Timid people
shouldn't travel. I've been around the world many times and
had injury. I just deal with it and keep going.
Don't give the bustard a cent. Travel like a man.

(55:12):
Yeah that is I mean, I don't believe that person.
I think that inflammatory.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Well, yeah, as I said before, I have traveled around
the world many times.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
What are you philly as fog? Yeah uh yeah, yeah right,
we were a bit We're horribly late here, but when
we come back, we'll take a few more calls. I wait,
undred eighty ten eighty is a number to call twenty
four past.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Two Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams. Afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Very good afternoon to you, and we are talking about
getting into trouble overseas, whether you were injured or got
really sick. What happened? I eight hundred eighty is the
number to call. Ben, You had a bit of an
incident in India.

Speaker 16 (55:57):
No, this was a couple of years ago, and felt
sick all of a sudden thought it was a penicidis,
but it turned out to be even more severe than that.
It was, you know, it was a kind of infection
on the lining of the in the stance and I
had to be stomach in this science, so I had
to be put into hospital and in emergency care and stuff. Now,

(56:19):
my insurance was a better credit card with B and
said in fact to be specific, and but before traveling,
we've we've always made it a point to check the
fine print and we also usually get a copy of
the insurance document from the bank so we know what
the terms and conditions are. And we've done that for

(56:41):
all our travels, uh and so, but no real issues.
In fact, everything was covered. The hospital care was was
covered in some of the best hospitals in Mumbai, and
they even flew me back first class.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Oh that's awesome. Yeah, luxury, yeah yeah.

Speaker 16 (56:59):
So it was a fairly good outcome, and in fact,
right through it was pretty seamless, you know, process a
lot of people, you know, kind of In fact, even
recently when I did travel, the travel agent did ask
me about, you know, taking a you know, separate insurance
and I told her I'm covered by my credit cards.

(57:20):
She said, oh, I would you know, uh, you know,
re look at that. But when we did compare what
was an offer, it was very similar to what we
were getting offered by other insurance companies. So we decided
to stick with the card and year handed, you know,
it was fine. We recently went to we went to
the US last year and I found that I had

(57:44):
an inflammation in my photo. I went to a medical
center there and they called me about one hundred hundred
fifty dollars to get checked by the doctor. But then
when they found out I had insurance, they said, oh
it's you know, it's five hundred. So I said, you know,
because I had a you know, I said, what if
I what if I just do it if as if

(58:04):
I'm not covered. They said, no, you have to do
it if you've got insurance. You have to do it
by insurance. But I said, in the disparity in reds,
yes and no. That's how it is. So yeah, it is,
which I found fairly interesting.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Actually, yeah, can I just say Ben that you have
an amazing voice. It's not I was just trying to
think how to describe it. It's it's so deep. It's
like warm manuca honey over toast or something rich as
anyone ever told you. I was curious so much base
in it.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
It's like it's like.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
A velvet sofa parked on a subwa or something. It's
it's beautiful wood.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
Thank you know.

Speaker 16 (58:38):
People do it at me that because I am a
musician vitrail and tractically Jess Piano solf Ah. Yeah, so
you know, I don't think much but people ask you
this thing.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
But it's a lovely rumble to it. I could listen
to your voice for hours. It's beautiful. Thank you so
much for ringing and sharing his story with us. Yeah,
how good?

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (58:55):
That is where we will leave it great ninety minutes
so and thank you for everyone who phoned and text
on that. Coming up though, we want to have a
chat about step parents. So Catherine Schwartznager, she is the
daughter of Arnie. She talked to a podcast recently where
when she became a step parent, she married Hollywood superstar

(59:15):
Chris Pratz and as a stepparent to Pratt's son Jack,
she got in a step parent coach. So that's what
we want to do over the next hour or so.
Let's be the step parent coach for anybody out there
that's looking ahead of that journey. What was the advice
you'd give back to yourself when you became a step parent? Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and for step kids as well,
how did you deal with it? Do you look back

(59:36):
as a step kid and think maybe you were a
bit hard on the step parents when they came into
your life.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Well you did, didn't you, Tyler. Yeah, you were a
horrible little fifteen year old.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
You were yelling my real mommy every day, every day.
And I'm so sorry, Chrissy. If you're listening, I was
a horrible little step child. I'll tell you more very
shortly though, but looked or were you just being loyalty
your real mum?

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Good points. Well I'll expand on that very shortly. But
love to hear from you on O eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. If you're a step parent, what do you
wish you knew at the start? And if you're about
to come become a step parent, are you but worried
about how the kids are going to deal with you? Oh,
one hundred and eighteen eighties the number to call twenty
nine to three.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
And we's been playing next as the jazz musician. I
just want to hear him talking between songs.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Such a good thing.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
That was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Beautiful voice. That was me on the piano.

Speaker 12 (01:00:29):
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(01:00:51):
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(01:01:12):
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Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Thank you very much. Rayleen right, this is going to
be an interesting discussion. Step parentee Sir Katherine Schwarzenegger, the
daughter of Arnie. She married the very famous Hollywood actor
Chris Pratt a few years ago and she is a
step parent to Pratt's twelve year old son Jack with
his ex wife, Anna Farris, who's also another Hollywood actress.
But she said in a recent podcast that to help

(01:02:05):
her deal with the what could be Apperil's turmoil of
being a step parent, she got a step parent coach
to help her along the way. And clearly that's quite
a privileged position to be and to get a step
parent coach to help you out with that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, and also being Arnie's daughter gives you a certain
amount of credibility with your step kids, I imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm sure a twelve year old Jack loves
Arnie swartznags. Does she talk like armieh No? And she
doesn't look much like Armie either. Your room, I don't
know what that was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I went Scottish through the terrible arming.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
But one hundred eighty, ten and eighty so that look,
let's call this a bit of a PSA for any
people out there that may be about to become a
step parent. What advice worked for you when you got
into that situation. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Absolutely, let's let's cut out the expensive step parent coach
and use eight hundred and eighty ten eighty people that
have been in that position what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Their advice is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
And also, if you're you know, you have a little
you harbor a lot of shame and guilt like Tyler
does and should for his behavior as a as a
young man who terrorized his stepmother.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Yeah, we didn't get on. We didn't get on when
she first came into the picture, no doubt about it.
What do you think that was, Tyler?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Did you think was it because you were harboring some
resentment for the marriage breakup of your parents?

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Definitely? So there was absolutely that, And you're like, who's this.
You're not my mum. I was fifteen at the time,
so I think I was old enough to think I
could start making my own own decisions. But me and
the old man were fighting quite a bit as well.
But then, so what really upset me at that time
that all that stuff was going in the background and
I was, you know, I was backing up my lovely
mum as well. And then she came into the picture

(01:03:41):
and she started to back up the old man. When
me and dad had a bit of an argument, then
she'd come into the bedroom and say, Tyler, you need
to listen to your dad. And of course it was
a fifteen year old say you're not part of this. Yeah,
this was between me and dad and you're not a
part of this. But now that I'm older and hopefully
a little bit wise, I look back on that, and

(01:04:01):
she was in an awkward position as well. Dad was
having a hell of a time, Mum was having a
hell of a time, and I was having a shit
a time as well. But what's your language? Yes, sorry,
I was having a hell of a time as well.
Watch your language. This is bringing back some this has
bringing back some memories, man Heath. Sorry, And we were
all in what was quite a tough situation. As even

(01:04:22):
as a fifteen year old kid, I probably should have
been kinder to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah, I mean, we can all look back at our
teenage years and we could have probably been a bit
more nuanced in our approach to life. But there is
a certain amount of hormone ell activity and a teenager absolutely,
and also as you're you know, as you're occurred and
you're growing up and things are going one way with
your family and then your family breaks apart, then you're
feeling a little bit vulnerable.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
I imagine as a child, right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
No, I was lucky enough that my parents stayed together
my whole childhood, and I was a dick anyway. Yeah,
you certainly were, but you can see the problem and
as I imagine, as a parent, you also could can
get quite protective of your kids if you know, I imagine
if the step parent starts telling off your kids, you
could take it quite personally that they're saying that you

(01:05:09):
haven't brought up your kids. You know, as much as
you may love your new partner, you might be you
might take it personally if they say you that little
clean up your.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Own little turd. Yeah, You're like, well, that's my kid.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
You feel protective of them, and you feel like they're
saying that you haven't brought them up properly or what.
It was a very very complicated situation. Absolutely, we'd love
to hear from people on eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty who have successfully, you know, sailed those complex step
parenting waters. Yeah, and also the ones where it's blown
up in their face and it's been a complete disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Will take them all. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call, or you can text through nine
to nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yeah, we're not Hollywood stars. So here's some free step
parenting coaching on eight hundred and eighty ten.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Eighty twenty one to three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talksa'd be very.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Good Afternoons you we're talking about becoming a step parent.
So it's on the back of a story. Catherine schwartzneg
as you marry a very well known Hollywood actor and
is now a step parent, had to get on a
step parent coach to help her navigate those waters. But
keen to hear how you navigated those waters, Peter, Welcome
to the show.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Hey guys, I was dating a mother of two girls
ten and five at the time, and like you were
talking before, the five year old you used to just
stare at me like, what the hell's this? And the
ten year old wasn't too bad, you know, tell a
few dumb jokes and slow to get there. But when

(01:06:41):
it was time for me to propose, I asked the
two girls first because they already had a dad, and
of course they weren't really excited, and you know, they
just created a nice little family. But if I had
advice then it would be never block out the actual
biological parent, because they're always going to be in your life,

(01:07:05):
whether you like it. Or not at least I did obviously,
But why waste your time fighting something that they're never
going to disappear. They're always going to be there, So
you kind of have to try and make it work
and and kind of find a balance of not taking
aside because you weren't privy to why they were divorced

(01:07:26):
or broke up in the first place. So advice is
very kind of key on your partner. But also bear
in mind that the girls in this case have a
biological father that they love very much, and you're not
a replacement. You're just an add on to that. That
relationship and discipline. I just went off my partner at

(01:07:48):
the time of what I could get away with. But
when we had our child together, I made sure that
I was consistent with a discipline with my boy as
I was with the other those In their eyes, I
was like, well that's the same, And I say, I
had a fantastic relationship with the two step kids. You know,

(01:08:12):
it's you know, they're a lot older now, and yeah,
one of us got kids of their.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Own and are still with you, still with the mum
if you don't mind houking.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
No, no, no, we're separated, but they we have. They
have a sister with me, I had my daughter. They
come over so obvious regularly at my place.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
And oh yeah, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
And I've never treated them every any different. You know,
we were twelve fifteen years I think I was so, yeah,
I know them, I know them well. They're my kids
and my family don't know any different. They're like they're
just part of part of the photos, you know, it's
like part of my family tree. Even though they're not

(01:08:59):
the blood, they're still anchored on the bottom of that
little tree as it goes out. So but yeah, I
just think my advice to any father, don't push yourself
on the kids. Just be yourself, treat them how you
want to be treated, and let them decide when they're

(01:09:20):
ready to confide in you. And they will at some stage.
They'll go Ashley, he's a good dude. He's let's you know.
And you make time on one and one time with
the other kids. It's always an important thing to like
taken to swimming lessons or ballet or without the mother,
you know, just to do that. Yeah, a little bit

(01:09:42):
of greeving goes a long way.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
But did you have any massive did you have any
massive blow ups? That were hard to deal with.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
There were a few. It was more along the lines
of I suppose discipline how I would discipline someone as
opposed to how they were disciplined. So keen of off
by partner was the biggest one. Like I got frustrating
heaps of times like this is the way I was

(01:10:15):
disciplined as I was a kid. It should be the same.
And you know, and again a blended family cultural is different. Again.
So yeah, at the end of the day, it's the kids.
They're going to chime off and soak up everything bit
of knowledge that you can serve. If it's positive, it's negative,
then you've got a hell to climb.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
So what about just telling step kids to do chores,
you know, do the dishes.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
That was interesting. So we had the week on week
after arrangement, like they spent half of the dad and
then and we just made sure that we had rules.
When they came over. They knew that there was light
down at this time. They knew they had to do
the basics and do your bed, bring your dishes to
the table, one washes wonder. You know, there were rules

(01:11:05):
that they had to follow as soon as they came
over there. Once I came home to school, the uniform
wasn't just jumping on the floor and blah blah blah blah.
So there was kind of like like steps in place.
But the hardest thing is as a parent is maintaining
those right. So you have to be consistent day in
day out, and on the weekend you relax a little
bit and you know, the treats come out, but the

(01:11:28):
girls to try and rebel, rebel against it because their
father treated them totally different. So it was like, you know,
for me, I was like you, he was an ah.
But at the end of the day, that's their biological
dad they love, They have more a connection to him.
But I can still be that alternative person to call

(01:11:51):
if they need to be picked up from a pub
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
And what about what about the biological dad though, because
that could be a little bit challenging. You've got this
other this other dude who's you know, bringing up his daughters.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Was how was he with that?

Speaker 14 (01:12:08):
See?

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
I you know, he's he spent a couple of Christmas
Days with us, you know, come over and you can
you try and avoid them their separate days. Really, I
didn't really care what he thought. I didn't you know,
I didn't delve into it. I was like, that's not
my life. My life is making sure that I'm doing

(01:12:29):
the job as a stepdad and a partner to my partner.
If I'm doing things right, he shouldn't be complaining because
the girls aren't coming home saying dad's accusing us. Sorry,
pizza have gusing us. You know he's doing this and
that he let us say to drink it all hours
of the night. Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
You know it's yeah, you just concentrated.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
You just concentrate on being the good the good parent
you can be, and that's all you can really do.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
Right, Yeah, you can be the bad parent too, because
there will be times where I just agree with school
workout it should be done on that. But you just
have to be consistent. And you know who cares what
he thinks any words they are, so you just block
that out and go. But he's always going to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
That's the biggest I guess the problem is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
I guess the problem is when the other parent, the
biological parents starts because in the most irresponsible breakup situations,
you have, you know, the other parent bad mouthing the
other other situation in the other week, spending their week
bad mouthing you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
You know, that's when it can become a real problem.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
And I've seen that before when when you know, what's
the saying, when they use that the kids as a
weapon against the other side, hit them against each other.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
Yeah, that's probably one of the biggest things that we
did together was we never ye she never argued or
had a conversation that was negative towards their dad in
front of us, in front of the kids. We never
did that and it was always done behind crazy the

(01:14:05):
dads and ah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And
don't give me wrong, that happened, you know, but it
was never done in front of the kids. So well,
the kidsaw was a loving mum, a lovely dad, and
a guy that was in between that was there to
help them, support them, nurture them and bring them into
the world as best you could.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
You know that lovely. Sounds like they were lucky to
have you, Peter. Absolutely. Final question from me, Peter, was
their party that was was a bit terrified that it
was two girls that you were coming into the situation
with rather than two boys.

Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
One hundred percent I was. I was. Yeah, I didn't
know it, like when my dad took on myself and
my little brother when when we were born. So I'm
trying to followed my dad instance, but it was scary
as hell because I didn't know how to deal with
it once you first meet the kids, because you know,

(01:14:58):
you wanted to be intimate with this woman or guy
whoever you was at the time. So there's going to
be times when you're sitting together watching a movie and
your hand in hand on the couch, or you lean
over and cover the kessin and the kids are there
and they're looking, analyzing, they're going touching my mother. So
it's true, always going through your mind going how far

(01:15:20):
can I go? Can I you know, can I put
my hand on the thigh and just leave it there
for a couple of hours? Or can I cuddle? Can
I what can I do? And then you forget about
that because then that the trust what I've seen, is
the trust in them in you, is they know that
their mom's happy. They're happy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yeah, so, oh well, thank you so much for your call, Peter,
And that sounds like the positive end of it. We're
getting a much of horror stories coming on the text
machine that we'll do. But I guess when I guess
it would be staff the bases on the couch, when
the when the family's around.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Right you think, so, yeah, yeah, that seems like a
smart move by Wait one hundred eighty ten eighty. If
you are a step parent, what do you wish you
knew at the get go? It is nine to three.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way? Mad Heath and Taylor Adams, New Storks EBB.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
New STORKSB having a great discussion about becoming a step parent.
What did you learn along the way in that June
eight hundred and eighteen eighty. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
We had a very lovely story from Peter. But here's
the other side of it. My step son set about
destroying my marriage from day one. He was a monster
at the wedding, climbing trees, letting snot hang out of
his nose, and misbehaving whenever possible. He was seven years old.
By the age of fourteen, he was tormenting my dog.
He took a knife to school to threaten children. He
was banned from going on school camp because he was
so wicked. He tried setting fire to the school toilets

(01:16:41):
using the toilet paper. He killed a chicken in our garden,
and the ducks and chickens would run away from him
whenever they saw him coming. Boy, oh boy, I even
had to call the police out because he was so
badly behaved. I ended up in the doctor surgery begging
for respite care for myself, and they told me there
is no help for parents, only help for the children.
It was all seen by the authorities as my fault.

(01:17:03):
He succeeded in breaking the marriage. We got divorceduff to
ten years of hell. It was literally like living with
the It got to the point where I was scared
to go home because I didn't know what the awful
young person would do next. My advice to people considering
relationship but that would involve step children would be don't
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
That is a hell of a journey. Wow. I mean,
if you're in an omen situation with you know, a
kid like Damien, then I get that. I mean that
is to last ten years in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, you tried to make it work, but clearly and
you're going I know this is a horrible way to
say it, but you'd be starting to think, well, it's
not you know, they've got the kids saying you're not
my mum. Yeah, that you might be going, that's not
my kids.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Yeah, exactly. Never become a step parent to teenage triplets.
I tried it once. It was a nightmare. That would
have been tough and this one quickly. Am a stepmother,
but no children of my own. Twenty five years ago,
kiddies were eight and eleven. Was still challenging different family values.
I had to switch quickly. That was the awful weekend
with dad. Took two days to calm down and then

(01:18:07):
it was time to go home. Wouldn't have ventured into
it if Hubby wasn't good and well controlled reconversations with
the X their new partner etcter, dealing with the kiddies,
explaining to them at times relevant to age what they
would understand. It was very difficult, but we managed to
make it work. Not for the fainthearted. All right, there
you go, All right? Oh, eight one hundred and eighty

(01:18:29):
ten eighty is the number to call if you are
a step parent or you're about to become a step parent.
Really keen to have a chat with you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
We've got someone here who's both a stepchild and a stepfather.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Oh, this is going to be good. We'll read that
out very shortly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call if you want to send
a text. Nine two ninety two is that number. New
Sport and weather on its way. You're listening to matt
and Tyler. Very good afternoon to you your new home
are insateful and entertaining talk.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Afternoon to you. Welcome, it is seven past three and
having a great discussion about step parents. So the story
that kicked us all off. Catherine Schwarzenegger, the daughter of Arnie,
married the very famous Chris Prank. Chris has a twelve
year old son with his former wife, Anna Faris, and
to deal with becoming a step parent, she got in
a step parent coach. Wow, how elitist our privilege?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
And as we keep saying, with your dad's Arnie, surely
you've already won most of the battle and your stepparent,
there's some good street cred. It's not Tyler Adams turning up,
you know what I mean. It's someone son of someone
that you know, the daughter of someone very, very famous.
But you know, we can't all afford step parent coaches
or would even want them. So you know, eight hundred
and eighty, teen eighty, we're just talking about people's step

(01:19:50):
parenting experiences and then.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
We'll get to Japanese walking after that. Okay, absolutely want
to get into Japanese walking.

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Did you get quite a controversial text that you spied
before you went into the news. I shall I read
it out. It's got to just coach just and then
read it out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
But because I think that this controversial ticks made derail
the entire conversations, mighty welcome the show, justin you've been
a spit stick dad.

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Uh not in the traditional sense, guys. My ex remarried
and had a child a couple of years after we split,
and then we sort of continued with the co parents
in so every second weekend I'd have my daughter and
as her little sister was growing up, I think she
was about three or four that she wanted to know

(01:20:38):
why her some bloke was picking up her sister and
going away everything. So her biological dad and my ex
wife explained to her that you know, she's got two daddies,
and you know, and then it sort of just clicked
for a little girl that she wanted two daddies as well,

(01:20:58):
and then started calling me daddy justin so cute, very
cute and very cool that you know, now ten years later,
she still calls me daddy justin. During those ten years,
I would she'd had sleepovers with her sister, so giving
the biological dad my ex to free weekends and all

(01:21:22):
of this was very cocial with the biological dad and
my ex and their family, which was quinite of cool,
you know, So in a sense, I wasn't a stepparent
by stepparent by law or by marriage or anything. It
was just by chance.

Speaker 17 (01:21:38):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
And so now that that's been going on for ten years,
do you would you feel some you'd feel parental parental
responsibilities for this child, would you you know?

Speaker 14 (01:21:51):
Would you most definitely?

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
Yes, most definitely.

Speaker 10 (01:21:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
Yeah, So, I mean I don't get to see her
every day, or I don't get to see her as
often as i'd like, but yeah, I feel like I'm
some sort of parent, and definitely when I get the
opportunity to look after her and have her in my care,
it's my responsibility obviously as a parent to do what
I have to do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Yeah, right, So you know schooling stuff. Would you would
you cough up some cash for a for a you know,
I know, a school camp or such.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
Look by Laura. I don't have to, but if they
needed it, and you know, like most definitely yeah, most
definitely like And I pay for stuff. You know, she
gets birthday presents, Christmas presents, and if she is staying
with me, we'll go for a bite to eat and
I pay for everything like a parent. Would you know,
I give it. I'll give a guidance, I give her

(01:22:42):
advice if she needed it. I support her with things
she does. So she plays touch football, I'll go and
watch and then support her in that sense, just to
give her that. Well, he's not always a constant in
my life, but he is there if I need him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Everyone should have a daddy. Justin Yeah, absolutely, justin genuine
question made because this is lovely, it's we love and
hearing the story. But when you first got into this relationship,
clearly you love the mom. Did you have to have
a chat about how it would work when you came
into that situation as a as a step parent?

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
Look, look, not really, because I mean she was my
ex wife that you know, that that remarried and had
this younger this child. So you know, once since younger
child started calling me day justin it was all very kosher,
and it was all very much. You know, they didn't
want to stop her calling me that. They didn't want
her to stop her thinking that I was she did

(01:23:40):
have two dads because watching her older sister and the
way that her older sister was still happy enough but
going away it was fine. So the conversation between my
ex and the biological dad was very kosher. I was
very open, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
So did you feel because that's that's the other part
of it, isn't it that you had a daughter that
was being brought up by another dude? Was was that ever?
Was that ever attention for you? Was there ever moment
like don't don't just and my daughter? You know that
kind of thing?

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
Well, I never had to have those conversations. He's a professional,
and look, at the end of the day, it was
a hard pill to swallow. As with most dads, when
you know you have your you have your first child,
and then you expect to see them every day, and
then twelve months lady, it don't. So I will admit
it was a hard pill, but you know, I knew

(01:24:32):
he had values, and once they had their child, it
was like, well, he's a cool dude. He's a good dude.
And you know, like I have every bit of amount
of trust in him as a father and a parent.
And you know, and my daughter's doing very well academically
and sports sports wise, and you know, she's kind of

(01:24:53):
lucky that she has the two dads and she has
someone else that and and yeah, he does have to
discipline her when he has to, and and I don't.
We have an ongoing agreement that they discipline and parents
in their house and I do it at my house.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
You know, well, let's listen to this text that just
come through Justin. There is hope in this world. What
a beautiful man and human respect.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, thank you both, Thank.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
You, thank you for sharing your story Justin Now, what
a cool story and a cool situation. I want a
daddy Justin me too. I want to I want two dads.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Yeah, I've seen that a bit in relationships where there's
one a kid that will have two dads and the
other kids don't you know. Yeah, and so they're getting
picked up and maybe and then there there's a whole
other family that's you know, giving them presents and it's
kind of a you know, an absolute women, it can
actually be a massive bonus for the kid, you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Know, absolutely if you want to be met he's sick
and dad, Oh it's another a call, but really keen
to hear your story is about becoming a step parent.
If it worked as similar to justin love to hear ye,
nine two ninety two is the text number as well.
We're getting plenty of ticks coming through, so we'll get
to some of those very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Yeah, and I've still got to share this shocking one.
This is going to be good shocking text.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
It's going to terrify you. It's fourteen past three. Very
good afternoon to you. Some great texts coming through about
being a step parents.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Or read some great texts, and then the bad one
that I've been hoping. Yeah, well maybe it's not a
bad one. It's not for me to decide. One hundred
and eighty ten eighty. When we read the bad one
out in a bit, yep, what do you think about it?
But this one is an interesting one. My ex's new
partner used to thank me for babysitting my own children.
I politely explained that it's not babysitting if it's your

(01:26:37):
own kids. The open communication worked well and we get
on well, which is great for the kids. Children accumulate
people in their lives, accommodate. I guess that means children
accommodate people in their lives, they don't replace them. Great
show you're doing. Thank you so for your text. Thank you,
thank you so much for your text. Yeah, I mean
that that babysitting thing is as a heardle even in

(01:27:02):
relationships with this still together. You know when you go
you're babysitting their kids tonight and your partner go, your
babysitting your own kids?

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Are you mad? Very true? Are you? Now? This text
starts off not so good, but it gets better. Guys.
The stepchild I had was just fourteen. He had been
instructed by his mother not to talk to me. His
mother told him to eat all his meals in his bedroom.
I said he had to eat with us. He wasn't
supposed to get in my car. It was incredibly difficult.

(01:27:30):
It lasted until he went to university. That was a
relief when he left the home. However, twenty years on
and things are much better. I even get a hug
hello these days. Twenty years on. So the mother said
from to stay in his bedroom.

Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Is this a mom or a dad? It sounds like
it was a step dad, right, So he says, yeah,
get a guys. He stepchild was fourteen.

Speaker 15 (01:27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
But that's the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Thing people can do is pit their kids, you know,
in the battle with the X. Yeah, you know, you've
got to You've absolutely got to never bad mouth the
other partner. Yeah, you've got to talk them up, even
if they're a dick, You've got to talk them up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
It's a cruel thing to do to a child, isn't it. Yeah,
to say that you cannot you cannot talk to your
dad's girlfriends. And it's incredibly negligent as a parent as well,
because you've just got a kid that will listen to you,
and so you're using power you should not use. Yeah,
and all that pressure on a child, that's terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Although you know, there are situations where where you know,
I've known situations where people have the parent has not
bad mouthed the other parent, and then the kids have
acted in a certain way, and then later on life
they're like, oh, Okay, now I understand the situation more.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
But mom and dad just said nice things about each other.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yeah, and then you find out later in life that
one of them was dodgy, you know, one of them
had you know, cheated on the other one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
Whatever. But they never very common, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
You never find out that that kind of situation. Should
we go to oh, read up this bad, bad tea
right here.

Speaker 6 (01:28:57):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Bad things happen when you let a step parent into
your house, especially a man. They cannot be trusted. Mothers
should live for their children, not for themselves. I never remarried.
I knuckled down and bought them up on my own.
Three kids, no step parent. Who are these people letting
another adult into their house? What do they think will happen?
It's irresponsible.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Wow, I mean, that's a hell of a stance to take.
I don't know if there's inherent danger, but they're obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Bad things happen in the world. But there are peters
that we've talked to. They're justin's that we've talked to.
There's so many fantastic step parents out there. Just to say,
because there are some bad things that have happened that.
I mean, that's a crazy You're a crazy person.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Yeah, to close yourself off to love again. Bar's welcome
to the show.

Speaker 18 (01:29:42):
Hello mate, I was just waiting you Noah steep dad situations.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Oh yep, thank you. Sheer away please buzz.

Speaker 18 (01:29:52):
Okay, right, Well, unbelieved this one of the women that
I have been with. I was going with for five months,
having our little relationship at the pub AND's pictures and whatnot.
And it was five months before I actually realized. When
I ended up at her house a whole lot of

(01:30:13):
little kids started walking on the back door when I
was sitting there with her, and I went, oh my god,
she must be a childcake of her full job or
and it turned out she had five daughters.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Well, Agent, I don't know.

Speaker 18 (01:30:29):
I've been going with her for five months before even
realized she had a kid in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
How what were the ages were?

Speaker 18 (01:30:36):
They?

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
Were they five little kids?

Speaker 18 (01:30:39):
They just was from six years old up to fourteen
years old?

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
And do you think she get that information from you
because she was worried that you would you wouldn't be interested.

Speaker 18 (01:30:52):
Well, I still don't even know. To the stay wife
she don't it, but yeah, I gave me a surprise,
like when she must have been a ked of her
as a part time job but it turned out they
were hers.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Yeah, and how did that affect your relationship with this
this this woman.

Speaker 18 (01:31:11):
Become very costly? So you to pull one kid, I
got a number four to go.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Wow, and as.

Speaker 18 (01:31:23):
They couldn't be Tuesday on packing one kid, yeah, I
couldn't be tuesy. I had to treat all equal.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
And ended end of that relationship.

Speaker 18 (01:31:31):
Last buzz actually did? I ended up one kids were
here of my own, which in the end we actually
ended up splitting about probably about six years ago. But
my boy, we're here still comes to me every Christmas, holiday,

(01:31:53):
birthday and everything. So we're still close. I'm still close
with here. And believe it or not, the she actually
happens to know two of my exits. I got kids too.
I got three kids to three different mothers, and I'm
a step dad's to the all three mothers got the

(01:32:17):
own kids.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
You're a busy members. So how many is that in
total that you're dealing with? Their buzz? And have you
done the census?

Speaker 18 (01:32:25):
The woman the woman that got five see the five
plus mind. I had a woman worth one class, mind,
so that's a number two.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:32:36):
And then the last woman that I had saved three
of the plus mind, so that's another four.

Speaker 6 (01:32:42):
So I love.

Speaker 18 (01:32:43):
Counts, but it's a lot of birthdays and Christmas is
to remember.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Yeah, I think my math is right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
I think you're you're you're running twelve kids and step
kids combined.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Bars, that's that's that's a lot.

Speaker 18 (01:32:55):
Yeah, but I found out that it's the only one
that so I've had one of the major problems. My
partner happened to die.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
I was with the.

Speaker 18 (01:33:05):
Were seventeen years and she was the one where the
five kids.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Oh wow, I'm sorry.

Speaker 18 (01:33:12):
She dies with an aneurysm after nine day holiday with her.
She died in my garage in front of me.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
Oh scary.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
And and after that there must have been tougher you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
And after that, did you take on the responsibility of
those five kids?

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Yes, wow, you're a.

Speaker 18 (01:33:30):
Good now that yeah, now, now that's they're a little
bit of teenagers. And that's my partner that I was
worked for the seventeen years died eleven years ago, and
so I had all the kids up bringing five daughters
that I didn't know from a bow.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
So my goodness, buzz, that is quite a story. Yeah,
you're a legiend. I mean, cheapers don't be there to
leave me like that.

Speaker 18 (01:33:58):
Yeah, they aroys got hold of there on the spot.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
Wow. And and and did you say she passed away
in your garage?

Speaker 18 (01:34:06):
Yes, we've just got back from a nine day trip
up road to row and to see her sisters. And
we had sat down when we'd just bolding the driveway,
and she asked if I had a panado, and I
went to get one out the car before that we
even went inside, and she screamed as loud as crazy

(01:34:27):
and just stopped screaming. And I don't know if she
was still sore or what. And I looked at her
for about twenty seconds before I realized it wasn't good,
and I shok her and she just never moved. She
went out like someone turned off the lights.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
That must have been intense. And then you would have
had to break the news to the daughters.

Speaker 18 (01:34:51):
Yeah, we had only just got back from our holiday
and said did at our house that we'd live in
them for the seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (01:35:00):
Yeah, that was a pretty hard story.

Speaker 6 (01:35:02):
But yeah, believe.

Speaker 18 (01:35:04):
It or not the other two exes the store have
coffees were may worth their goods. And now I'm single
after my partner died. So and I still see the partners.
It's got their own huts buds now and I still
see them and they have a coffee worth them with
my goods. So stepdads can work if you just carry

(01:35:30):
on with life as so that's the best you can.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
You've got a great attitude, Buzz. That's a story. Yeah,
that is a hell of a life you've lived lived,
But I mean amazing that you stepped up, Buzz to
take responsibility for those children. You're a hell of a man. Right.
It is twenty six past three. We're going to play
some messages, but we're taking your calls on eight hundred
eighty ten eighty step Parent Advice. If you've been there,

(01:35:54):
done that, back in a.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Mow Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
It is twenty eight pass through three. We'll wrap this
one up with a few texts. We've had so many
over the last hour talking about stepparents.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
My wife's ex had terminal cancer. His last words to
me was, thank you for raising our kids so well.
Respect from the birth parents is the key, Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
Wow, that's a lovely text.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Wow his last words, thanks for raising our kids so well.
That's a pretty beautiful time.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
And get better than that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Hey, guys, the woman who texted about not remarrying and
bringing up children on her own has it one hundred
percent correct. Children are most likely to be murdered by
a step father. Children are safer going to live with
a father and stepmother than living with a mother and
her latest boyfriend. Stepfather doesn't happen in every relationship, but
we're young. Children are murdered. It is mostly the stepfather.
That's from Diane. Yeah, but so so. This is responding

(01:36:55):
to that text. Bad things happens when you let a
stepparent into your house, especially a man. They cannot be trusted.
Mothers should live for their children, not for themselves. I
never remarried. I knuckled down and brought up them up
on my own. Three children, no stepparent. Who are these
people letting an adult into the house. What do they
think will happen? Are responsible? I mean it is sure
it is more likely for you know, statistically for a

(01:37:19):
child to get murdered for the stepfather, but still incredibly unlikely,
And surely you can back yourself to decide of someone,
generally speaking, if you're going to bring them into your life,
that they're a good person. I mean, the idea that
you would just completely shut up the shop for romance
because you've got children and your relationship hasn't I mean,

(01:37:41):
what if your partner's passed away or something, or the
relationship hasn't worked, that you, just as a woman, you
should just absolutely shut up shop. Because there are some
bad step fathers out there. I mean, there's no doubt
that there are. But there are also many, many, many,
many very good men out there that will make the
life better for everyone in the family. So I mean

(01:38:04):
that's the thing with statistics. Sure it's more likely, but
it's still very, very unlikely.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
I one hundred percent agree. Got time for one final one? Yeah,
we'll do this one. Eh oh, this one here, I'm
just speed reading to make sure it's on point. Hey, guys,
we bought them a few years ago. Get one half priced, guys.
I can't stop thinking about hmm, maybe this is a

(01:38:29):
little bit off the reservation. This one. I don't know
if this is quite about step parents.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
I think she's getting angry because I said that that
woman's crazy. Ah, okay, right, I can't. She sounded extremely hurt,
more than normal. I can't help wondering if one of
her children may have been abused, possibly by an next
partner step dad, just saying as she could really be
hurting behind the scenes. And I feel you are a
wee bit harsh, Matt. Oh, maybe I was really a
bit harsh but on this woman. But just to say

(01:38:55):
that that, I mean, she was pretty harsh because she's
saying that it's irresponsible for a mum to bring in
a stepdad. But so you're just condemning all women to
be alone forever if they've got children and they lose
their partner.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
I think there's a lot of people out there with
the intelligence to be able to find another good human
that they might bring into their lives to help raise
their kids in a wholesome way. As we've heard for
the last sixty minutes, right, there are plenty of guys
out there and women for that matter, who would be
absolutely great for your children if you bring them into
your life.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Yeah, I think it's very harsh to say it's irresponsible
to bring us it's irresponsible.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
To bring a dodgy step there.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Then yeah, absolutely, do you know that there's there's a
problem with the person, that's absolutely responsible. But to say
that everyone that is running a family, a combined family,
is irresponsible, you know, just that true?

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
I think that's I think that's a crazy thing to say. Yeah,
great discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who phoned
and text on that one. Coming up. Japanese walking is
what they're calling it on TikTok and Instagram. It's the
latest trend. But can you really get in shape just
by walking? Yeah? Look, this is my take on this.
Walking is an exercise.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
It's great for the mental health, and it's and it's
you know, great for the dog, and it's great to
go for a walk hand in hand with your partner
after dinner. But is it really exercise or as are
people just finding ways to be lazy and pretend they're exercising.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty come adam nine ninety
two standing by for that one. It is bang on
each not bang on it's twenty seven or four.

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(01:40:54):
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(01:41:14):
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(01:41:35):
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Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Thank you very much, Ray Lane. Right this, I already
know this is going to be a great chat because
the text machine has already blown up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
So Japanese walking, you see it everywhere on Instagram and
TikTok and anything that's a TikTok sensation you've got to
look at and go. But you know, the Japanese have
come up with some of the greatest things.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
In the wild.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
They have.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
Yeah, very very very innovative nation.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
This is the official word for it, is a description
of it as or named for it. Sorrys interval walking training, right,
So interval three minutes fast at seventy percent peak aerobic capacity.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Okay, I don't know how you analyze that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
What's seventy percent of your peak aerobic capacity? And that's
pretty powerful walking three minutes slow at forty percent of
your peak aerobic capacity.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Right, So I guess you just have a lot of
maths here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
You have to estimate that repeat for thirty minutes at
least four days a week, and it will, apparently, according
to science, just have a look here clinically supported improvements
blood pressure, fitness, cholesterol, BMI, and endurance. Also potential extra

(01:43:01):
benefits of sleep, cognition, mood, and pair as well with mindfulness.
There so apparently it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
I mean, look, these always sound way better than they
actually are. And I love walking. I'm a massive walker.
Mainly I do the walking because I don't like running,
and at this point I'm not doing much gym work,
so I like to think that's my exercise. Take the
weed dog out, do a walk, sometimes up hill, sometimes
on flat land. I absolutely love it. But is it

(01:43:32):
really exercise? That is the big question. And I'll tell
you what. I started doing that. Someone laughed at me
when I started doing it. You know those weighted vests,
Oh yeah, those wee camo ones. Yeah yeah. I tried
to give that a wee go and I got some
funny looks and I got quite embarrassed about it, so
I didn't do it anymore. Right, But again, that was
another trend. I have the courage of your convictions. Yeah,

(01:43:55):
but again, does that really do anything?

Speaker 6 (01:43:57):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Can you need to buy a jacket? Can't you just
put some sand in your pockets?

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
Yeah? Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
My point is there's a lot of people kicking back
on it, and I'd love to hear people e one
hundred and eighty ten eighty who have walked their way
to weight loss and fitness with these kind of things.
They say, it's only thirty minutes walking four times a week,
and these are big claims being made by it. There's
no doubt that walking and getting out is better than
not walking and getting out. My point is the claims

(01:44:23):
that they make, these punishes, these horrible social media fitness influences,
they play on saying that they've got the solution for
you that's easy, and there isn't an easy solution. So
I'd like they are claiming the benefits that you get
from running from walking, and so people read it and
they go and they follow this, and then they're trying

(01:44:45):
to get money off you, these influencers or engagement or whatever,
and people want to hear that they can get the
benefits that you get from strenuous exercise from just walking
for thirty minutes four times a week. And in the end,
it's not when it comes to weight loss particularly, it's
what you're eating. It's what you're eating is going to

(01:45:08):
make difference.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Between whether you're whether you're overweight or not.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
You know you have to walk a very very long
way to burn off a burger. Yeah, so your per
usual siss Texter, Matt, you don't know what you're talking about, retrainer.
Ask a trainer and they will tell you a good
brisk walk is just as good as a run. Do
your bloody homework. Well, really really is okay, fitness trainer?

(01:45:32):
Can can someone tell me if there's a fitness trainer
out there?

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Can someone?

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Is that true that a walk is the same or
as good as a run? I just I think it's
a very different thing.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
I run. I'm training to run a marathon at the moment.
You do a lot of running, and I also walk
the dog every day, and the walking of the dog
for half an hour is very different than the hour
long run I'm doing. Oh eight one hundred, very very different.
Oh eate one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Graham agrees walking is not working out. Imagine if the
All Blacks just walked, they would get smashed exactly. I
get why you're dubious about it, because these things pop
up time and time again, and this is a shortcut
for your way to get fit and get back in shape.
And if you're worried about your BMI or type two diabetes,
this is going to solve your problems. And what you're
saying is if you want to get fit and healthy,

(01:46:18):
that requires work and it's going to be hard and you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
Have to accept that. Nobody gets shortcuts to get healthy. Again,
Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Yeah, everyone wants to hear that all you need to
do is go for a walk. But definitely walking is
better than not walking. I'm not saying it is, but
it's just not comparable. Saying that walking is not exercise.
Exercising is like saying that having a snack is not eating.
What a complete idiot you are. Of course walking is exercise.
Your pathetics is this text?

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
This has got people worked up right? Oh eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty Who knew that the walking
lobby was so aggressive? Yeah? Can you really get super
fit just by walking? Have you tried this Japanese walking
into a walking technique really can make it from you
have all the dumb things you've said, this is probably
one of the dumbest, Probably one of the dumbest. It's
in the top twenty. Of course walking is exercise.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Get outside your own age group and think about people
who are older who aren't able to run.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Yeah, well absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
I mean if you can't run, walk, sure, but if
you can run, then running's better than walking.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
The phone lines have absolutely led. The text machine's going crazy, right,
let's get into it. It is eighteen to four have
a chat.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
With the lads on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Mad
Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons used talk za'd.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
Be very good afternoons use. So the phone lines of
lit up airs has the text machine is walking? Well,
of course it is exercised. But can you walk your
self to healthy physique and a healthy body? O eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of courts called
Japanese walking. It's taken off on TikTok and Instagram, but

(01:47:52):
the phone number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Stop being such a douche canoe man. Physiotherapists at the
heart Rehab recommend walking over running.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Douche canoe.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Yeah but okay maybe, but you can't tell me that
walking is comparable to running, which is basically what these
tech took influencers are saying it's a totally different thing.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
But John, you think a long walk is as good
as a run?

Speaker 6 (01:48:18):
I know it.

Speaker 8 (01:48:19):
I'm absolutely clear on this. Some of your listen might
remember the push play campaign about twenty years ago. Yeah,
I remember around thirty minutes a day.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Yep, I remember that.

Speaker 8 (01:48:29):
And yeah I was behind that and we did a
lot of research and we got the British Medical Journal
to look into it and all that sort of thing.

Speaker 6 (01:48:37):
So just a couple of.

Speaker 8 (01:48:38):
Quick points, guys. If you want to get thinner, it's
about what you put in your mouth, Yeah, and how
often you put it there. That is that is the
key to the door. A bit of exercise helps, but
it's it's what you can show but on the on
the walking versus running, just a quick point. If you
want a hundred kilos and you walk a mile or

(01:48:58):
you walk five kilometers, you're using the same number of
calories moving that weight that distance. Whether you're walking or running,
you're burning the same amount of energy. If you run,
you might improve your aerobic fitness, but you're not using
more energy. You're just doing it quicker.

Speaker 6 (01:49:16):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
I just and I'm not clearly you're an expert in this, John,
if you help put together that program, but genuinely, and
I measure this on my weee Apple watch when I
go for a walk, and I can see and estimate
how many calories I'm burning judging by my heart rate, etc.
I burn far more calories when I go for a
twenty minute run than I do for a twenty minute walk,
even if I'm walking up hill.

Speaker 8 (01:49:37):
Yeah, well, you're exerting more energy. But at the end
of the day, they say, the people that I've read about,
they say, look, you're getting the same health benefits, apart
from the aerobic fitness which you might get on the
other side of that coin, you're wearing out your joints.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Yeah, but say John, for me, I'm training for a
marathon at the end of the year, right, so if
I'm going to that's what I can. I'm talking about
health benefits one hundred percent degree. And people should absolutely walk.
Walking is better than not walking. But there's a difference
between what's been claimed on these TikTok videos. And you must,
as a person that's worked in the area, be suspicious

(01:50:14):
of the incredible claims that get made on social media
about health. As you say, for example, you know, it's
what goes in. Really that's about weight, these claims on
TikTok or saying that you can lose all the weight,
But that's less of my point. My point is there's
walking for health, and then there's something that is exercise

(01:50:35):
and training, which is which is a more extreme end
of it. And I just don't think. I think they're
just so incredibly different. Walking for an hour compared to
walking for running for an hour are just such widely
different things.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Would you agree?

Speaker 8 (01:50:51):
I would agree that if you're walking for an hour
and running for an hour, you're going to burn more
energy running for an hour. But if you think about
it in distance, well, I'm going to go for a
five k walk for a five k run. Yeah, the
numbers say you're basically going to use the same amount
of energy moving that body that distance.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Yeah, So what you would say you're saying, you're saying
distance over time. So these these things are claiming time.
So yeah, I can totally agree with you if you
walk for if you walk for ten k and then
then sure, But if you run for half an hour
versus walking for half an hour, then the running for
half an hour is going to be more extreme.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Obviously.

Speaker 8 (01:51:28):
Yeah, that's the thing that's versus time. If you walk
a marathon, you'll still be at the end of it
and mobbly on your legs, And he would have burned
a lot of calories walking forty two and it'll take
a couple other guys just did it a lot faster.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
But but yeah, I mean I think that what was
it called push push push for play?

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
What was it?

Speaker 8 (01:51:47):
Sorry, push play?

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Push play? That's right, push play?

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
One hundred percent degree that people need to get walking
because not only is that it's you know, only is
it good for your health, but it's great for your
mental health. I think going for for a walk and
looking around at the trees and getting out in the
vitamin D getting out in the sun if you can.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Is incredibly good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
I just pushed back on it that it's akin to
the physical exercise that you get from from running for
half an hour is really all I'm saying, John, Oh,
and I.

Speaker 8 (01:52:16):
Look at it's about so ultimately it's about well being, right,
and you can measure that in biological data or just
how you feel about yourself and going for walk. Going
for a walk stalls a lot of problems.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Yeah, one agree. Yeah, talking about TikTok trends, John, how
do you feel about they call it rocking overseas? I
don't know if you've heard about it, but it's putting
on a weighted vesta or putting weight in a backpack
and going for a walk. How do you feel about that?

Speaker 8 (01:52:40):
Well, I'm one of those middle aged guys you see
walking around the suburbs with a pack on their back,
So I guess I've picked my teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Do you ever use the walking poles? John?

Speaker 8 (01:52:51):
No, too much to manage.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Yeah, what are the advantage in the pole? What do
you think of What is the advantage of those poles?
Because I see large groups walking around one neighborhood.

Speaker 8 (01:53:01):
Yeah, they say it eases the load on your hips
and your knees and everything. But since I don't have
that problem yet, I'm okay not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Hey, thanks so much John, you
and what a great, great initiative that was. That's resonated
with people over over the years. So thank you for
your work on that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:18):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
Cheers, guys, Cheers John. I eight one hundred and eighty
ten eights and number to call, just talk it. Thinking
about the walking poles, I can understand how that could
take some weight off the knees and off the hips
and the rest of it, but is that really worth
I mean, that's quite for someone like you, Matt. I
could see your speed walking with some walking poles. You
couldn't do that in your own neighborhood, could ye.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Look, I don't judge anyone for what they do out
and about in the community because I go running in
compression socks, so I have no position to judge anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
That is a good call, right, got to play some
messages and a few more calls to wrap this up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
It is nine to four the big stories, the big issues,
the big trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and
Tyler Adams Afternoons, Used Talks EDB, News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
There's six to four. Mike, you've been a trainer for
twenty seven years. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (01:54:06):
Thanks mate. I certainly have your.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Thoughts, your thoughts on walking versus running.

Speaker 6 (01:54:11):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 17 (01:54:13):
They are totally different. Are called up because whatever the
text has said, do your homework, they are the same thing.
They are not the same thing, not even close. The
best things you know and that Japanese studies that come
mber the percentages. Was it seventy and then forty minutes
at a time? Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, ninety

(01:54:33):
nine percent of us are never going to be able
to measure measure percentages.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
The best we can do.

Speaker 17 (01:54:39):
The thing we can do is just when we think
about Zone two exercises or low steady state cardio. It's
been able to have a conversation with someone, not an
intricate conversation, but just a brief conversation. That's the pace
that you want to walk at, or if it's on
a at a gym, on a treadmill, that's the type
of thing. And the other thing for longevity with own

(01:55:01):
two cardio is strength training. After that, some high intensity
stuff is good, but the two the two markers we
want to look at is strength training and zone to cardio.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
Yeah, and so absolutely if people can't run, they should.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
Walk though, right, absolutely they should.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
Yeah, I mean walking walking is a fantastic thing to
do and people should do it. But it's not going
to have the same effect on you as running.

Speaker 6 (01:55:26):
It is absolutely not. It's completely different.

Speaker 17 (01:55:29):
The push play guy was right, you know, distance over time,
but you know, if you ran for twenty minutes and
then walk for twenty minutes. You're going to burn, going
to burn way more calories in the twenty minute run.

Speaker 6 (01:55:40):
Absolutely, there's no love it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
Sorry you have to let you go. But thank you
so much for that call, Mike. Thanks to all your
great news Zealands for listen the show today. Thanks so
much for all your calls and Text've had a great
time chatting. The Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast will be
out in about now, So if you missed our chats
on getting sick and injured overseas and what you'd do,
or our chats on the Keys to Good Step parenting,
then follow our podcast wherever you get your pods. They're

(01:56:03):
great and powerful. Ryan Bridges up next, standing in for Heather.
But right now, Tyler, my good friend, tell me why
I'm playing this song from Kate Bush.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
What chun running up that hell? Run not walk if
you want to get really for run up hills. That's stuff. Yeah,
although that caused me a Haglin's deformity, It's another story.
Thanks for listening by and see you tomorrow. I have
until then, give them a taste of Kiwi from us
Love Years.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
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