Full Show Podcast: 27 August 2025

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Hello you Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and
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the twenty seventh of August and the Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five. Boy, oh boy, Tyler, that was Tyler. Yes, Taylor,
Taylor Swift.

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Taylor Swift was full noise. My name's Tyler. But what
a what an hour that.

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Was wo Taylor Adams. I'll tell you what. Taylor Swift
fans a hardcore and Taylor Swift haters a hardcore as well.

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We are, so we really divided.

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The big issues, the big trends and everything in between.
Matty's and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk SEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
News Talks ed be Welcome into the show. It is
seven pass one. Hope you're having a good Wednesday afternoon. Gheta,
Matt get A, Tyler, get A, everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I think that's the topic we're going to talk about
today at the one o'clock hour is going to rile
people up a little bit. And that's the whole point, really,
isn't it. Because there's two schools of thought on celebrity news.
One is we shouldn't hear it at all, and the
other one is let's saturate the airways twenty four to

(01:46):
seven with it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah. Absolutely, Abs.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
You may or may not have heard that Taylor Swift
has got engaged to Travis Cowsey, her tight end boyfriend
from the Kansas City Chiefs, great player.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And the reason why we're doing this topic today because
I was listening to Mike Cosking this morning and in
all the news bulletins it was in twice yes, and
I thought Taylor Swift getting married is big enough news
in New Zealand that it's in both the news part
and the sport part.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was all very exciting a lot of people talking
about it this morning. Out there in the office as well.
Everybody was talking about Travis Cawsey and Taylor Swift's engagement,
Why do you reckon? Isn't it nice? Is it going
to last?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
But do you care? Is the coverage too much or
is it too little? Where do you sit on celebrity
news weight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Personally, I
wish I didn't care, and so when I heard that it
was on the news and then on the sport, I
was like, Oh, that's overkill. But then I found myself
on the computer going oh yeah and reading about it.

(02:49):
So if I was a would I be a better
person if I didn't find that kind of news interesting?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, I think you've been perfectly honest about it. There'll
be many, many, thousands and millions of people and billions
of people around the world that would have clicked on
those particularly headlines. But here's alway montage of the excitement
on ZB this morning.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Zebby and we have some breaking news this morning. Taylor
Swift is engaged. Yes, and in less than twenty minutes
they've had one point eight million likes on their Instagram posts.
So the world is celebrating Taylor Swift this morning.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
It's a love story. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey have
announced their engagement the pop superstar in Kansas City, chiefs Titian.
She had a social media post this morning of Kelsey's proposal,
and the news follow Swift's podcast debut on Calsy's podcast
earlier this month, where the couple shared their love for
each other.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
He's just a vibe booster in everyone's life that he's in.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
He's like a human exclamation point.

Speaker 8 (03:43):
It finally joy for Taylor Swift fan and Women's second
Seed eagist Fiontech at the US Tennis Open in New
York after the musician's engagement to NFL football at Travis
kelce I'm.

Speaker 9 (03:54):
Just happy for her because she deserves the best.

Speaker 10 (03:57):
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey are engaged, and a post
to Instagram, Taylor wrote, your English teacher and you, a
gym teacher, are getting married. In honor of the occasion,
Helen would like to play Taylor Swift love songs all morning.
She has the support of management, upper management, middle management,
and lower management. Her host is somewhat less enthusiastic about

(04:21):
the idea.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
So I'm just looking at the text here. Couldn't care less.
I've turned this off. I couldn't care a crap. I'm
switching off for an hour. If you're going to talk
about Tata see later to that text. Who cares? Okay,
couldn't care less about this? What a load of bs? Now.
The thing is, if that's the case, then why does

(04:44):
it make so much box office? If so many people
do not care about Taylor Swift? Why is it that
when it's put on the hero togetst the most amount
of clip.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, boosted right to the top and it had wen't
been there for most of the day when you.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Mention it on the news against the biggest reaction. So
if we don't care, are we just saying that we
don't care but we don't care because we want to
be the kind of people that don't care, But we
are actually the kind of people don't care. I mean,
we've got four thousand people texting through to say that
they don't care.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've been
honest with yourself, did you click on those headlines? And
if you did, why, and if you say you don't care,
we'd love to hear from you as well. Do you
genuinely not look at this news?

Speaker 11 (05:23):
This?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Texas says can we please talk about Butter Prices. Who
cares about Taylor Swift? I think the only thing more
vacuous than Taylor Swift is probably talking about Butter Prices.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Nicely said.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
In terms of eraising your brain on dred percent, this
Texas says the only news I care about is celebrity news.
Well this is this is a pushing back. Okay, it's
all the same stuff. Otherwise, inflation, some political scandal that
no one will care about in tuesdays, it's all bs.
At least Swift and Travis getting married is positive, more
love in the world, less clickbait.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
All right, yeah, nicely said. I wait, hundred the phones
have led up. I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Do you? And sexasays you tweets are a disappointment. Why
are you giving that little fat bustard airtime? Who's the
fat bustard?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
It can't be Travis. He's in great, He's in great,
he's a solid lead. I'll tell you what, text bet
he's in better condition than you are. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Say that to Travis Kelsey's face.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh, hang on a minute, I know who's talking about.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Is he talking about me.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
He's still about we're talking to after three. Oh right,
it's another topic. He's not just going to say Travis Kelsey.
You can say a lot about him, but one thing
is he said good.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
He's not a fair bastard.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
One percent.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes, the big stories, the big issues, the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons
u's talk, sa'd.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Be very good.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Afternoons it is a quarter past one and we're talking
about the reaction to the engagement used between Taylor Swift
and Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
The six says, I personally don't care about mostly by news,
but I don't begrudge those who do. With so much
negativity and current events in our lives these days, anything
that serves as a distraction or a bright spot can't
be a bad thing. Yeah. I mean that's the other question.
Why do people get so angry that it's in the news.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I mean the text machine is smoking, it's absolutely
blowing up.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I've never seen people so angry. That people are actually
angry that we're bringing up where the people think that
it's in the news too much.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, that's some inception level anger.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
The fact, we're even mentioning that maybe Taylor Swift is
overexposed and potentially might not be newsworthy. It is enough
to make some people spit fire. Lou, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (07:44):
Hey, how's it going. Well, it's certainly made the news
in our house at five thirty this morning. Our daughter,
who's a swifty is currently in America and she rang
us to tell us the news.

Speaker 13 (07:59):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (08:00):
It was not very much appreciated at that time.

Speaker 13 (08:03):
In the morning.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'm thirty am. She thought that she needed to share
that news with you. That's it's incredible.

Speaker 12 (08:09):
Yeah, Well, she's a huge wist. She's got all the albums.
I think Taylor's actually a marketing queen.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah right, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (08:19):
When she puts it one album, she does it with
four different colors.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah right.

Speaker 12 (08:24):
He gets a time for sales.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
So do you cynically think that maybe she's announcing this
engagement now because she's got a new album.

Speaker 13 (08:33):
Coming out, Well, make sure Wonder doesn't.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, you go, sorry, you go.

Speaker 12 (08:41):
Lu I was gonna say, hey, if it brightens up
someone's day, does it really matter? Yeah, But there was
a fine line I think with recording on sty.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Really yeah, Now, when your daughter rang up at five
point thirty, what and said to the news did she
say did she scream it down the line? And what
what did you say back? Did you say? Okay?

Speaker 12 (09:03):
We went kind of okay, it's five thirty in the morning, sweetheart,
that this isn't a important but she was rather excited.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yet It's lovely that she you know, you have that
kind of relationship where she's going to make the effort
to tell you that that's that's a beautiful thing. How
old is she?

Speaker 12 (09:21):
If you don't mind me asking, she's actually turning twenty
one this week. She's in Camp America.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Oh cool?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
How good?

Speaker 12 (09:28):
Yeah? She actually went to Taylor Swift's concert in Melbourne
from New Zealand because she'd been talking to a girl
through Instagram for a year and a half and this
girl actually met up with her outside the concert and
walked in with her because she needed the token on whatever.
So she waited a year and a half to actually

(09:50):
walk in with ninety six thounds and other people.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
How cool her own? I mean, that must have been that. Well, yeah,
you've got a good daughter there. That must have been
next level for her.

Speaker 12 (09:59):
Lou Oh, look, she was just spinning, absolutely spinning. She
loves Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, and for you Lou obviously got the a
phone call from the daughter in the wee House of
the morning. But do you do you click on the headlines?
Do you love this sort of stuff? Is it a
bit of an escape sometimes?

Speaker 14 (10:16):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (10:16):
I think some of it it's an escape sometimes. But you know,
you know, if it's a bit a nasty, you know,
a bit of a nasty headline, I'll go, no, Actually
I don't need to read that. That's that's nasty, you
know for the person involved. We don't need that.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
The reason is, sorry, no, you go, you go.

Speaker 12 (10:35):
If it's a good headline, I go, oh, yeah, I'll
see what's happening. But if it's nasty, no, don't need it.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Do you think the people that get really angry about
it think that there's been some news that hasn't been
reported on because we're talking about Taylor Swift on the
news headlines? Then they go, I know, if we're not
we're not hearing about something because that slot has been
filled up. But do you think that's what makes them angry?

Speaker 15 (10:58):
Well?

Speaker 12 (10:58):
Quite possibly, I mean there are a lot there's a
lot of stuff going on in the world at the moment.
But hey, does positively positivity not kind of rank above that,
do you know what I mean? Just a little bit
of positivity is good.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
It's nice to have an escape sometimes.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Good on you, Lou Yeah, and good on your daughter
for punishing you at four point thirty five thirty am
within you?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
That is fantastic. Love there, Oh, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call now. Just quickly
after the headline, I looked up on some of the
thinking behind why we do love news like this, So
there's a psychologist that did a deep dive into it,
and I'll read you a little bit about what they
said when it comes to what's going through a head
when we click on celebrity news that's coming up. It

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Speaker 3 (13:19):
Very good afternoon to you. So we're talking about the
news that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey have got engaged,
and it's everywhere at the moment.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But it is is it too much?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Is it too much?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is that the complete vacuumization? And I'm not sure if
that's a word of media that we talk about celebrity
news so much or is it an interesting piece of
love that makes the world a better place when we hear.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
And love to hear from you. On eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. Now, I mentioned before the break there's
a psychologist that did a deep dive into why we
do enjoy celebrity news like we've heard this morning. So
her name is Britt Franks. She's a psychologist out of
Harvard And here's the wee line here It serves as
a form of stress relief for a lot of people
when life is overwhelming, Focusing on celebrity gossip can be

(14:02):
a way to numb out our feelings of dissatisfaction, unhappiness,
or stress. Scrolling through celebrity gossip us in a disassociated
state where we can take breaks from difficult feelings.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it?

Speaker 18 (14:14):
So?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know, I follow if one pretty closely, and my
friends and I just send memes back and forth about
if one. Isn't that the same thing? It doesn't. When
you love sport, don't you start gossiping about it as well?
To a certain extent.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
It's escapism, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Oh, eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call yack.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You discussed me? Who cares? Literally, no one cares? Is
this text?

Speaker 15 (14:34):
Well?

Speaker 2 (14:35):
The thing is people do care because media organizations don't
repeatedly put up things that people aren't interested in. And
the reason why you hear so much about Taylor Swift
is because it gets reaction. So there must be some
people out there that say they don't care, but they
do care. This textas says, I'm never listening to your
show again, How freaking dare you waste my time with

(14:57):
Taylor Swift?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
You'll be back.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
They've actually written Taylor Smith.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
That person hasn't clicked on the headlines Taylor Smith.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
There are homeless people on the streets. Go out and
help them, Okay, okay, instead of talking about Taylor, instead
of talking about Taylor Smith, Tyler, go out and help
my homeless person on the street.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
All right, all right, I will say that that teakes it.
Will be back. Absolutely, go out and help at Homer
Spece right now, yeah, okay, all right up and I'll
get straight out there.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Out there, Matthew, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (15:26):
Oh good a, what a great topic. Great topic, divisive,
but great. I thought the moving of your swim spar
would be more topical.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Oh yeah, yes, and.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
A lot of that as well.

Speaker 9 (15:43):
Yeah, but I would like to know the pre nup.
There would have to be a healthy prenup, wouldn't they
Because Kelsey, I mean, I'm sure he's sorted. But she's
Taylor what she's a billion dollars or something?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
She's got more.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I believe you believe, I believe I believe she's she's
more than a billion dollars worth.

Speaker 9 (16:04):
Yeah, more than a billion, So yes, I mean there
will be Yeah, that will be quite interesting. But maybe
we could maybe you could write to them and ask
them for some funds to help you move your swim star.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, but they could do a lot about the homeless
such situations.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
It could email them and go like, Taylor, you're a billionaire,
can you must have an h I a B I
can borrow.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
Yeah, in corporate the swim spar into their wedding function
like no party. Yeah yeah, so yeah, no, good topic.
I don't really care. Look, she's she's news and like, yeah,
she's tato. She's anything they print or she says. People
just go berserk over so and it's news and what else.

(16:52):
It's better than what we're listening to in Russia and
in Gaza, and you know, it's it's better than that.
It's better listening to the cup of the economy or
about the butter or anything else.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's a part of it, Matthew, genuinely that there's a
lot of stuff happening in the world that makes you
feel about powerless. There's not many things that you can
do about those situations you mentioned, But what we can
do is click on a nice headline about a very
famous couple that has got engaged and maybe feel a
little bit of hope about the human race for a
little bit.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
And her ring too is quite controversial. The engagement ring.
There's something to do with it. It's antique or I
don't know. I couldn't couldn't see it very well on
the on the stuff. But yeah, it's it's quite massive. Actually,
I think.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
There's a disconnect between what people say they want to
read about and listen to and what they actually do.
So people always say, why isn't there serious long form
news interviews with our politicians all the time on TV
in primetime and things like that, and why aren't there
more meaningful documentaries? And then and then when you actually
look at what they're watching, it's Love Island exactly exactly.

(17:58):
You know, there's this this idea of what people want
to want to be and what they actually are, you know.

Speaker 9 (18:04):
I mean, Mike this morning was talking about the Biggest
Loser a watching the Netflix show and the Biggest Loser
I mean, yeah, so there you go. But anyway, it's
it's news and she'll always make news.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, there you go. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Cool, Matthew nicely said, I one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I had a controversial idea for a fat loss show.
I don't know if I can share it. Yes she can, Okay, Well,
it's a house. It's a TV show. It's a house,
but it has a very small door and you have
to lose weight till you can get out the door.
I'm not sure what i'd call it. Do you think
they would go?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, I'd watch it. I'd watch it right. Keep me
here from you twenty nine past one.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
If you got a name for it, I'm working on it. Okay,
maybe you're looking help me.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
We're going to get this off the ground.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I'm gonna go and puch it.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Twenty nine past one.

Speaker 19 (18:53):
Jus talk, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. There's
no trouble with a blue bubble. Concussion experts are comparing
play at straight events to dwarf tossing, where real human
risk and harm are turning into a spectacle. Researchers are
calling for an outright ban on the activity involving two
people running head on into each other without protective gear.

(19:13):
An announcement is imminent on boosting supermarket competition. The matter
is first on the government's quarter a three action plan.
Finance Minister Nikola Willis says the government's working at pace
on the issue. Police and Victoria are having a tough
job tracking down a gunman accused of fatally shooting two
police officers and injuring another. They're facing wide search area

(19:35):
to try to find the suspect, Desy Freeman, who's an
experience to bushmen. Two people have been arrested following a
targeted police operation in hut Valley. Multiple firearms, two kilos
of methanphetamine and cash were seized. The arrest come after
a three month operation targeting drug imports across Hut Valley,

(19:55):
plus Auckland's fifty six level tower scheme to include a hotel.
Find out more at enz at Herald Premium. Now back
to Mattin Tyler.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Thank you very much, Wendy, and we are talking about
the news of Taylor Sworth and Trevis Kelsey. They've been
engaged and it is top of headlines and news bulletins
around the world, including right here in New Zealand. So
the question and put to you is if you are
clicking on these headlines and reading this news and certainly
I have, and Matt you have. Why what is the

(20:25):
joy that you get out from reading these celebrity.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
News Yeah, and the fat Trap, the fat Flap, the
Big Squeeze, the Way to Escape. They're just some suggestions
that are coming through very good for my reality show
with the Small Door. The six says fifty percent of
a Ti roans. That's hard Wood say, don't have enough
to eat? And you're talking, Tyler Swift, pathetic. Fifty percent

(20:48):
of us don't have enough to eat. I think obesity
is a bigger problem in our country than starvation. Yeah,
that's a big call to say fifty percent of people
in New Zealand don't have enough to eat.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's not what I see out on the streets.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's people walking around believing that kind of stuff. That
must make you a very unhappy person. If you think
that half of New Zealand is starving.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
They must have seeing that on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I mean, have a look out the window. Yeah, I
don't think half of people starving.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I don't know where they're Fifty percent are oh eight,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
And if you think it's all a load of rubbish
and you can't understand it. We're keen to hear from
you as well.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
This Texas says Tator Swift is an Illuminati puppet. It's
all designed to distract and divert attention. Energy flows where
attention goes. Okay, I mean, is she an Illuminati palante?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
That was the first I heard of it. I mean,
look the amount of anchor that's coming through on the
text machine for someone like Taylor Swift. I mean, it's
I don't get it. I don't get the fact that
people are so angry that someone like Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelsey have got engaged and people are clearly reading
these stories. Nine to ninety two is the text number

(21:57):
coming through.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Okay, so that's so many texts coming through that it's
hard to actually read them. I stopped reading the news
this morning because of this bloody story. Unfortunately, I bet
I won't hear my text read out because of my opinion.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Okay, well there you go. You did read it out, So.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
See you missed that conspiracy theory proved wrong.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Take that text and I'm going to say, I mean,
just in celebrity news in general, I have a great
dislike for me, Meghan Markle, and to a lesser extent, Harry.
But every time one of those stories pops up, without
a doubt, I'll be the first to click on those stories.
And I'm not the only one that there is that
part of the love hate relationship. So even people that

(22:38):
really and clearly there's a lot of anger out there
for Taylor Swift, those people, more than anyone, would be
clicking on those headlines because maybe there's a little bit
of joy that they get from being a bit outraged.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
This text has said all the people that are hating
on Taylor Swift are maga hard because she fights back
against Trump. That's why they're texting in their hate. I
haven't had any single text on that issue that around
it that they think it's because they're pro Trump, that
they just think the people text things. I think it's
too vacuous to even mention her name. Hi, Tyler, and Matt.

(23:13):
When I heard Ryan say breaking news this morning, I
thought my prayers had been answered. No more news days
filled with Trump. Yeah, yeah, but no, I get that one, guys.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I absolutely adored hearing about Taylor and Travis Calcey. Things
are incredibly tough for me and many others at the moment,
and what is wrong with a little bit of escape escapism?
Anyone who's texting through who says they didn't click on
the headline is either lying or living under a rock.
I say good on them, and it's nice to have
a little bit of nice news every now and again.

(23:49):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,
And we're getting hundreds of hundreds of texts if you
want to see the text nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, actually I've money to because now ninety percent of
people are texting in names for my show. Idea. Yeah,
first out the door says this texting you okay eight
hundred and eighty eighty Oh yeah, And before we were
going to talk about someone was asking about how how
wealthy Taylor Swift is.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yes, this for this wedding, So yeah, question for you,
dear listeners, if you think you know how rich Taylor
Swift is, and also how rich Travis Kelsey is nine
to nine two If you think you know that, really
keen to hear from you. But oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number core.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
This psis says, I know what you're doing. You're rage
baiting your audience, that's good business. Absolutely, he would never
do that, not us.

Speaker 20 (24:39):
Never.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
It's twenty three to two.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
How dare you.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call, oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be very
good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
It is twenty two to one.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
So people say they don't care about Taylor Swift. And
yet about when we said how much money is she worth?
About four hundred people texted through with the guests.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
They absolutely love it. So a couple of guesses coming
through one point four billion dollars two one hundred million dollars,
two billion dollars and as you say, so many texts
have just flooded through. So the correct answer is for
Taylor Swift to networth is one point six billion dollars.
And for Travis Kelcey that will change once they get
married married, but at the moment his networth is seventy million.

(25:24):
Oh god, talk about the breadwinner. Cow On may keep.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Us scrub seventy million? Is that all you got? All right? Hey?
The six has said how weak are people who can't
have a discussion on New Zealander's celebrity obsession. Are they
made of paper or just too dumb to see the
bigger question you're asking around what counts as news? Dumb
or weak? That is the option for many of these
people texting your show. What is it? Texters? Ah, they're

(25:52):
talking about something complex. Ah. They mentioned Tyler Swift. Ah,
I'm too dumb to understand what they're talking about.

Speaker 15 (25:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
People are so soft?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
What what a good text? Very strong? Thank you very
much for that, Blair? How are you mate?

Speaker 20 (26:08):
Depressed?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
You know?

Speaker 20 (26:12):
I mean? I opened up my laptop this morning, woke
up beautiful day down here in Willingston, opened up the laptop,
opened up the stuff headlines to see what had happened
in the global community overnight, and you know, expecting to
see some crazy headline about what, you know, what the
orange moron in America has done last night and all
that sort of stuff, and no, there it is in

(26:34):
yellow breaking news. Taylor Swift and Kelsey whatever his faces
announced their engagement. I turned it off again just to know.

Speaker 21 (26:44):
I don't think there's anything I could care about.

Speaker 12 (26:46):
Lease, you know what I mean.

Speaker 20 (26:48):
Don't get me wrong. I'm happy for them, well done,
congratulations blah blah blah. But you know, in two years time,
are we going to get the breaking news Taylor Swift, Kelsey,
what's his face? Divorce celebrity?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, yeah, like most of lling coverage.

Speaker 20 (27:07):
Come on anyone under the age of fifteen, anyone actually care?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, that's the thing that that's really the wider question
we're asking here because it doesn't get put in the
news and on the paper because people don't click so
and across all demographics it brings in big numbers. So
what do you think that says about us that we
are so focused on this top these kind of topics,
these celebrity topics are Blair, not you, but everyone else.

Speaker 21 (27:34):
Potentially life is too easy? Oh yeah, yeah, because I
mean if that's if that is has such a major
impact on your life that two people in America that
have nothing.

Speaker 20 (27:45):
To do with us wouldn't know, wouldn't wouldn't know where
we were on the mat, wouldn't care, probably never going
to come here. She refused to come here last time,
so she doesn't give her rats, you know, but you're
devoting your existence into what she's doing. Yeah, honestly, there's
there's you know, I've got more important things in my
life to worry about. Then what a couple of yees

(28:10):
celebrities doing in their personal life.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, Joe Draagan, there's a bit of the flip side
there as well, Blair. There a lot of the things
you're talking about there, the big news very complicated, and
there's not a hell of a lot most of us
can do about those things. There's a lot going in
the world that is just a bit too much. So
people look at stories like this and this is something
they can get there, hit around, something that may bring
them a bit of joy or at least escapism, And

(28:34):
so that's why they do it.

Speaker 22 (28:36):
Do it?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Their lives are so fricking many people there's lives are
so freaking hard at the moment that this is a
little bit of escape escapism for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 20 (28:45):
Yeah, and then what are they going to do tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well, she'll get divorced tomorrow.

Speaker 20 (28:51):
But what But what what headline? What celebrity headline are
they clinging on to next? You know, how long are
they going to have to wait before they find out that,
I don't know, Kim Kardashian's You've got another TV show?
I mean, there's a waste of try as well, isn't.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
It yeah, well Blair, you know, at least you're not
like Lou who rang before and her daughter rang here
at five point thirty am from the States to tell
her the news.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So that is excitement on a new level.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I've got a theory about this. I think that humans
were evolved to be interested in our family and our
wider group, what they're up to, if they're getting engaged,
if they've got a baby on the way, whatever's happening
in their life. Because we have social animals. As the
saying goes, drop one human into the jungle, you get
a dead human. Drop ten in and you get an
apex predator. Right, so we have to Everything about humans

(29:41):
is about social connection, right. So I think our interest
in celebrity marriages and births and all those kind of
things is a misfiring of that instinct to know what's
happening in other people's lives. We're only really evolved to
be in groups of about thirty to fifty. Yeah, that's
how we're evolved. So hearing what other people are up

(30:01):
to and being interest in other people's lives was a
survival technique for us. And so when you're caring about
you know, ha, marrying you know, Kelsey Travis, it's just
a misfiring of your you know, your your evolution. You know,
if you're of your you know, embedded into our DNA.

(30:22):
These these needs to be interested in each other.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Feeding that psychological need. I think that's a good theory. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Get a don get a boys.

Speaker 13 (30:32):
I'll tell you what. The divorce album is going to
be fantastic, sack.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
She's going to make money on both into this.

Speaker 13 (30:43):
I reckon. Then there's going to be the first talking
and making money. I disagree with the last caller. Christ
Juk Stadium is going to be completed very shortly, and
I reckon that'll be a brilliant place to host thirty
five forty thousand people screaming at Taylor swft. It will
be brilliant. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, the first

(31:04):
Then there's the first baby, the first child album. Then
there's the family album. Yep, we're all over the heartbreak albums, aren't.
We're we're sick of the ex boyfriends. We don't care
about those anymore. This is absolutely sensational news.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
You need to go to the bank now and get
a mortgage to pay for all this swift content and
product that's going to be coming out over the next
few years. On this don oh my god, don't start
me on that one.

Speaker 13 (31:32):
I was just thinking about Phil Collins, and the reason
I was thinking about him was because his best albums
were written after his divorces. And I went to the
concert when he came down to christ Church. I spent
three hundred and fifty bucks on the ticket. I spent
four hundred bucks on the merch and I still didn't
get everything. And I've yet to used my drumsticks.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, but I think on the stadium.

Speaker 13 (31:56):
I even bought a drum kit.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And how are you going with the drum kit?

Speaker 13 (32:01):
Let's not talk about the drum kit? Were right, Let's
just not have a talk about the drum kit. It's
still sitting in the garage waiting to go in the loft,
which I have quite completed. And I'm a bit concerned
about what the neighbors are going to say when I
start learning to play drums.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, I mean, it certainly is one of those punishing
instruments for your neighbors when you get a drum kit.
But don love your passion and I'm with you. If
Taylor's going anywhere in New Zealand, hopefully it's to that
new stadium.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Gross, wh doesn't she have a one hundred thousand capacity rule?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Oh we're buggered then.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I was in my milking shed at four forty five
when it came over the radio. Never had such a
frustrating milk. Four dropped in kicks cups, two premature births,
six bail balks, seven peed down gum boots, and number
seventy two millies slipped on a ramp and has injured it. Leg.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
That's a bad day in the milky jad.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
See this news really messed up George's morning?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, how dare Taylor do that to those beautiful cows gusting? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Hey, guys, these people need help. Are they jealous of
fame or something? Let's celebrate what's the matter with human
beings these days?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
And this one. Guys. If someone like Taylor gives people
pleasure and enjoyment, then she is a hero to those people.
Of course they want to hear all about her life,
especially if she has found love and marriage. Simple psychology
from Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Hi, boys, our work lunch table crew have an answer
to your question. We've been discussing it, and I think
the answer to why so many people care about Kelsey
and Taylor being in the news is because eighty percent
of people are morons. That's from Mark. So that's around.
There are lunch table. They've solved it.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
It's a high percentage, all right. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you
read about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey this morning. Why
and if you think it's a load of tosh, can
you hear from you as well?

Speaker 13 (33:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
This is this is deep here the romans work society
out the Colosseum are kept, the simpletons entertained, while the
elites screw us with music. In Hollywood, it's a bunch
of satan Satanists.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Red and Circus. Yeah, it is eleven to two.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Mattie Taylor Adams taking your calls on them.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Eighty it's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
V News Talk, zed B. It is nine to two.
I'm just laughing because people are really interested in the
show that you want to do, Matt and they're sending
through the names of the show. So just give us
the concept.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Begin Wow, or we had a caller was talking about
how Hosking was discussing that show on Netflix, about the
Biggest Loser Show, and I said that I had an
idea for a weight loss show where there was just
a small door so you got put in there and
yet to get small enough to get out the door.
And I was asking for names for it, and so

(34:43):
many came through. People are very smart, absolutely to me,
but this one's very brilliant. Fit in the stoorway. Also,
that's high level fit in the stoorway.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Oh so fairy story.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Love it. You keep those coming through. On nineteen nine two,
but we have been talking about Taylor Swift and Travis Calcey.
Many people would know the news. They got engaged and
it is everywhere. It is leading headlines and bulletins all
over the world. So love to hear from you. On
eight hundred and eighty ten eight see if you all think.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's a bit much, Why hi, guys, breaking news for
goodness sake, Zebby, get your priorities right. It is not
worthy of breaking news. And no, I haven't clicked on
the headline. Really hoping this topic doesn't go one second
over the hour it is pathetic. You waste even an
hour on it, cheers Anne. I like I like that.
She goes, it's pathetic, you waste even an hour on it.

(35:31):
Cheers Yet here cheers An.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
It's all about finishing politely. Yeah, thank you very much, Anne.
But that's a lot of anger over Taylor Swift. Hi, guys,
I'm most upset about this news. It's better not jeopardize
our super Bowl chances.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh my god, are you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan? Disgusting?
That's that's the most discussing. Next, I've had all day
Ram's heart.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
That hurts you, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Rams hard?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I think we've got Tim.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
On the line.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Get a Tim, how are you?

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Gentlemen?

Speaker 22 (36:00):
Chess to pop things and kicks. We'll probably get about
fifteen hundred people or maybe eight hundred eight people. Scott
listening to Chippy or for those who's got up the
sporting upset about his stuff.

Speaker 23 (36:11):
I'm just reading what he reads on stuff.

Speaker 22 (36:13):
I'm just reading a few steps. She played in one
hundred and twenty one countries, one hundred and forty nine dates.
Take the average price three hundred dollars. She grows two
billion dollars in the twenty one countries, ten point one
million people pay to see her, and she pay, and
she pay. In the sixty million people, what's the last

(36:34):
time the Chiefs played in the final, So that's roughly
about two hundred million. People pay huge amounts of money
to watch them, and we think that they are insignificantly
It's give.

Speaker 11 (36:44):
Me a break.

Speaker 22 (36:45):
I mean seriously, of course, that they play twenty one
countries in one hundred and seventy one major cities, crowd
average ninety thousand, and I'm paying four hundred bucks a ticket,
and we think.

Speaker 20 (36:55):
They've got no impact.

Speaker 22 (36:57):
They won't even heard of us, out of people in
the world.

Speaker 24 (36:59):
It's going to be a break.

Speaker 23 (37:00):
Seriously.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
It's funny right now on in our studio we have
two TV screens, and on both screens at the moment,
on Fox News and CNN, they're running a story on this,
so we're talking about it. So on both channels that
are on the screen here, we've got a text machine
full of people saying that no one cares. Yeah.

Speaker 22 (37:18):
Interesting, they've performed in front of hundreds and hundreds of
millions of people just in the last twelve months.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
It's money, yeah, and sixteen million people like their Instagram
Instagram post. Within minutes, Tammy says, I bet all the
haters would be absolutely over the moon if they saw
in public.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, that's it. And this person says, didn't everyone go
crazy for Elvis back in the day and then the Beatles?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, good point beatle Mania, it's just Taylor Mania.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
on a limb here and say I think that the
Beatles were more talented than Taylor Swift. I'm just going
to go to a limb here.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
You've already upset the Texas, right, well, a couple more Texas.
To wrap this up, just watching someone in the car
next to me watching a bit of Kelsey and Taylor news.
It's even while they're driving. This is the level that
we've got it discussed me.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I can't condone that.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
No. No, I mean, if you drive in your car,
don't be looking at it at celebrity gossip.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
And yet Taylor Swift's endorsement of Karmala Harris didn't push
her over the line, did it. No, that's true. At
the time when Taylor Swift came out in support of Carmela,
they were all the news was this is going to
shift it?

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
She was basically telling all the Swifties to vote Carmela. Yeah,
and then they couldn't be bothered and they didn't go
out and vote.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
She can sell a record, but can't get a president.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Thank you very much to everyone who called in text
on that, particularly the people that got really worked up,
really enjoyed those texts.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Tell how lovely she's engaged. I wish it was me.
People have become so iffing, angry and hateful at other
people's happiness.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, nicely put in a nice text to end on
right coming up after two o'clock. A woman who was
told by a power company that she should put on
more clothes is just one of hundreds of New Zealanders
who have said struggling with their power bills this winter.
According to an article, the woman's name was Patricia. Rang
the company and said I can't afford to pay the
power bill and they said put on a jersey. So
really can never check with you on this one.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I wait.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Ninety two ninety two is the text Newsport and Weather
on its way.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Good advice, talking with you all, afternoon, it's Matt Heathen,
Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show at
seven past two. Great to have your company. This is
going to be a good hour of discussion. So a
woman was told by a power company that she should
put on more clothes as her power ball started to skyrocket.
So her name was Patricia, she didn't give her last name.
Said her power bill of four hundred and twenty bucks
was getting a bit much for her and her two children.

(40:05):
She was struggling to pay, so she said, I quote,
I adjusted the weekly payments to suit painted off before
the next bill. I'm now paying at one hundred and
twenty bucks a week. I rang the power company and
asked what I can do, and they suggested we wear
more clothes.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
So the implication is that's somehow disrespectful of the power
company or you know that that that that's not a
sensible suggestion. But isn't it quite a good suggestion. So
if you can't afford your power bill, then putting on
more clothes. As I was saying before, when I was
a kid, if I ever said it was cold in

(40:40):
the house, growing up on the farm. That was the
first thing that my dad would say, I'd hardly even
get it out and put on a jersey, then put on.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
A jumper, put on a jumper, and that's in Donners's
cold and Donners yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And then we we we generated our own heat using
the aga the arga, so it was running through the
you know so yet to my dad had to get
up in the morning and throw the throw the coke
into the into the oven to get things going. Love
it so he I think he got used to get
angry about that because it took a while to heat
up the house in the morning. And I'll be like,
God's cold, Dad.

Speaker 8 (41:15):
Put on a job book.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
I've got to say. Mum used to get pretty irate
about us leaving lights on in rooms, to the point
where we got about three warnings before she get out
the wooden spoon if we kept leaving the lights on
in the bedroom. But you're right, I mean it was
not even that long ago that we were all very
power conscious that we'd watch everything that we're doing. The
lights go off when you're not in a room, keep
the doors closed. What we're raised in a barn, put

(41:37):
a jersey on, if you're two gold.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, but do you save any money by turning lights off?
Because I'm not sure about this. You know, look, my
kid's spurned through power like nothing else in the world.
And it actually slightly discussed me, Like on the week
that I don't have them, if I go up to
their level and I'll see that they've left all the
lights on, the bathroom fan, the bathroom fan on, the

(42:00):
bathroom mirror light on. They've got all the lights in
their room on. If it's summer, everything that the fans
are going in the room, or the computer's on, it's.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Just everything's cranky.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
It's basically sucking the grid dry if I forget to
go up and check when they leave. But how much, like,
does turning off lights really save you that much?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
No, not anymore. I mean, speaking about those goldful light
bulbs that we have to buy now, they're about ten
bucks of pope. When did that start?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
That annoys me. I used to enjoy buying those fifty
cent light bulbs.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
But you're right, I mean it used to be much
bigger a deal that you had to turn lights off.
I think back in the day, the filaments was sucking
a lot more power out. But yeah, I mean, what
do you do when you see that your power balls
too high? Do you do you make changes to try
and save power?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You do you think
this is disrespectful of the power companies? Do you think
that they're absolutely routing us? And for a power company
to say put on put on more clothes to try
and cut your power bill is horribly disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
That was the age of advice. I eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number of core. Are
you doing anything to try and conserve energy? You mention
your beautiful kids there and they turn every think on
that they can and keep it cranking. But I've got
to say, honestly, I was a bit annoyed when my
power bill went up quite considerably. I was with a
Flick and they got sold off to Meridian and went
up about forty percent. But that has since topped me

(43:21):
cranking the dryer, keeping the heat pump going. So ladid ladie, Oh,
e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
How much has your power bill gone up? And what
are you trying to do to save that power consumption?
And your wallet?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
As well.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Really can never check with you. Nine two niney two's
the text number. It is eleven past two.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Wow your home of afternoon Talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth Talk said be.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Afternoon. It is thirteen past two. So a woman called
Patricia didn't use her last name, spoke to media and
said when she rang her power company to say how
can I get cheaper power? And what can I do?
The power company told her to wear more clothes. So
is that really heartless from the power company or is
that good advice?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
We were asking if that was appropriate, and this texture
makes a really good point news to ask yourself just
scrolling down to this. Basically what it said was I've
lost it because something texts coming through. But it was
basically ask yourself if it was too hot in summer
and they asked her to take off clothes, would that
be appropriate?

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I think good point.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I think that would be less appropriate. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
My last power bill was eight hundred and eighteen dollars.
My previous bills were ninety five dollars and one hundred
and fifty dollars, all estimates. They told me not good enough.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
How can that seems there must be a glitch in
the system to go for one hundred and fifty two
to eight hundred and eighteen bucks.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Someone running an extension called out of your out of
a window at the back of your house, and you know,
running a sparpool next door.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I'll be a little bit of a cottage industry running
down in the basement as well. Oh one hundred eighty
ten eighty is number. Call Helen, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 15 (45:02):
Oh hi, I just puldad.

Speaker 11 (45:04):
Let you know that we've got a deal with Contact
where we get free power from nine pm till midnight.
So we turn on the dishwasher, the washing machine, the dryer,
got a heat pew well that goes off that time,
our hot water cylinder.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
Which is huge yea.

Speaker 11 (45:23):
And our biggest power this winter has been two forty
eight and that was when our daughter was at home
cranking everything up. So yeah, it's really pays all if
you can get that deal, and if you're willing to
get up in the morning and empty your dishwasher on
peaky washing out.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah right, So that's the flurry of activity at nine
o'clock in your house, you know. So if you would
you jump up from in front of the TV and
go hard?

Speaker 11 (45:52):
We just yeah, flying around pushing buttons.

Speaker 23 (45:56):
Honestly love it.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Give a bag to the Power company? They take enough.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I love that's that's brilliant that you're thinking through it.
I mean, I think most people would just be too
lazy to do that. You know, what do you think about?
What about what do you think about the when you're
when you're too cold? What do you think about the
Power Company telling this woman Patricia to put more clothes
on when she was talking about her four hundred and

(46:23):
twenty dollars bill.

Speaker 11 (46:26):
I was offended. I've got to say, well, hey, I'm
just driving up into the hills of Christus at the moment,
so I'll probably lose you. But it's a gorgeous name.
You don't need to eat pump on today, so.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
You go hard at nine pm tonight and get all
that stuff done.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, I love it. The Hour of Power. I mean,
I love the sound of that. But you're right, there's
a lot of Edmond jumping up and I would put
everything on.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
If she wasn't going to lose, well, I'd wonder why
she was offended about that, because you don't really know
how it was said. You don't because it could have been, well,
you're cold in your house, cause I mean, what is
the other solution if you're cold in your house and
you can't afford the electricity and the electricity prices what
it is, right, so we maybe the whole system needs
to change the electricity prices come down. Power in our

(47:14):
country is too expensive. Lets we all know that, and
it's a problem with that productivity because of it. Right,
But if that's the price of power and you can't
pay it, and you know, that suggestion of were more
clothes might have come from a place of caring. Yeah,
you know, we're just reading it and the implication of
the story is it's like try and putting on some
more clothes and it's sort of condescending fashion. But it

(47:36):
could have just been someone on the call sender going,
maybe you're going to have to put on more clothes.
I'm sorry, because that's the cost of power and you
have to pay it.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Well, when you ring them up and you say, look,
I really can't afford to pay this or it's too high,
have you got any tips that sounds like? And look
I get in this story, they've made it sound really heartless,
as you say, But what other tip would a power
company give you apart from hey, switch off your heat pump.
I can't. It's winterrum cold. Well, I'm really sorry. I mean,
if you've got a warm jumper that you could put on.
If it was said like that, is that really that

(48:05):
heartless or offensive? What other option is there?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah? Yeah, it's like I don't have enough money for food.
Have you tried buying cheaper food?

Speaker 7 (48:13):
You know?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
You know what I mean? Like, it's could come from
a plate nice place. Hey mate, it's called central heating
when hot water from your agur heat sources runs into
your radiators. Emitters cheers. That's jo from central heating New Zealand.
I was talking about how my house was heated when
I was growing up. Yeah, through an argur. Those radiators,
it's bloody good, bring those back, you know. That's the
other thing that happened to me in the morning on
hanging out by the radiators, and after my dad had

(48:36):
said to me, put on a jumper if you're complaining
about it's cold, he'd then chased me away from the radiators.
Get away, get your breakfast, get away. You can't just
hang out with a radiator all morning.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
You have the hard man, wasn't it? Chris? How are you? Mate?

Speaker 13 (48:48):
Yeah? God, thank you yourself?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Very good. And what's your thoughts about your power situation?

Speaker 13 (48:54):
Ah? Well, yeah, it's getting out of hand. Where the
fast twelve months, we've gone from about three hundred and
fifty three seventy dollars a month to seven hundred and
thirty dollars this last month.

Speaker 23 (49:05):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
Yeah, Well, like like you were saying earlier, family have
moved back for Mossie and they've been staying with us,
so our power bill has sort of gone through the
roof because they're feeling the cold a little bit. But
we just can't believe the power increase and charges for
this last twelve months. And of course the energy supply

(49:30):
that we're using is not going to be trading anymore.
That going out and we're going to be forced together
their parent company. And my mate was around last night
and he's he's already been changed over, and he said,
I'm going to be paying an extra hundred dollars more
a month for himself who lives on his own, to
four hundred dollars a month by this changeover and go, well,

(49:54):
are we going to be paying once we change over?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
What's he doing that it costs him? Because I'm just
looking at my power bill and it's only three hundred
dollars a month, and I lived with four people in
my house, so for four hundred dollars a month, I mean.

Speaker 13 (50:07):
He's got he's using two air conditioning coons and or
heat pumps and they go twenty four seven. So I
suspect that's where where.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
His powers through is he got it sounds like he's
got some insulation problems as well, but but.

Speaker 13 (50:21):
Yeah, there's no inflation. There's no insulation in his walls
is floor and ceiling of course.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, would you consider when your price goes
up like this, would you say to the you know,
you've got some people that have come home and staying there,
shorter showers, things like that.

Speaker 13 (50:35):
Ah, that's not so much because we're on gas. We
use telephones for hot water.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
But okay, so that's equation.

Speaker 13 (50:43):
No they've got we've got don't even use hot water.
So yeah, that's it's it's totally air conditioning, you knowal
heat pumps and heaters and bedrooms. You know, it's they've
got a young family, so they keep it up pretty high.
And yeah, they're sort of sort of hurting a bit.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Have we kind of lost that ability Chris though? Do
you think to look at conserving power? Has it got
to the point where you can't you know, those those
families like the one you mentioned enough cut out everything.
They can't remember that. Those big campaigns like you say,
five minute showers and change your light bulbs and all
those big campaigns is come on, u ZL and let
save power. I haven't heard one of those for a
long time.

Speaker 13 (51:18):
Yeah, but we are using energy saving appliances or even
the lights are gone to LED. You know, they don't
try I have a lot of power. It's your heating,
you know, the heat pumps and the electric fans you're
using and that sort of thing. Veterance, it's they just
choose the power. As I said, we've never never seen
anything like this before. And of course we're not going

(51:39):
to say anything against it either because they've got to
be warm. And yeah, so we're cost saving. Yeah, they've
they've finally brought a place and moved out. So there's
our cost saving.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah, Hey, thanks for your call, Chris. So yeah, cooling
and heating is the biggest suck on power, isn't it.
And so you've got your heating of your house and
then it's water heating, you know, not if you're running
a californ But then lighting is twelve percent, right, is
just this is an average in New Zealand. Washer and
dryer thirteen percent, refrigerators blasting out four percent? Who of

(52:15):
your power? And you've got to you got to run
a refrigerator, got to keep that running twenty four cent.
If you're runn an electric oven, that's three to four percent.
But your things, like your your lights are actually so
lighting is actually still twelve percent.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Yeah, so if you just shut everything off and lived
in the dark, that's a ten percent saving.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
But if you just turn off the light in the
hallway and the bedrooms and bathrooms when you're not in there,
because I think I think the mirrors in our bathrooms
are they're lights because you know, the lighted mirror. I
think that's on all the time. Very nice. That's sucking
some stuff. Dishwasher two percent. Computer one percent. Right, I've
been blaming my kids for running video games on their computers.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
It's only one percent. That oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. How are you saving
on your powerball? And just this response from this power
company to this woman saying we're more clothes? Is that
offensive or is that good advice? I love to hear
from you.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
All this, since says, sounds like a horribly snarky comment.
I tell you what, I take offense at their profits.
This person said, what a disgusting thing to say. But
you don't know how it was said that we have
these stories. Patricia says that they said we are more clothes.
They may have said, look, I don't want you freezing
to death. You can't pay the power bill. I'm just
working in the call center. It's not it's unlikely to

(53:29):
be a standard response across the entire massive corporation. It
would just be someone on a call sing to going,
have you tried putting on some more clothes?

Speaker 11 (53:37):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
To keep warm exactly. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty
is number to call.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Seems like reasonably good advice to me.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Twenty three past.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Two, MATD Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on youth Talk, SAIDB.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Afternoon, we are talking about increases and power prices, and
a woman who calls herself Patricia no last name, said
that she was struggling with a bill called the power
company and they said put more clothes on. So is
that fear advice or a bit heartless? And also, how
are you trying to cut down on your power bill?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
We don't know how long Patricia was going on to
this person. They might really been punishing for a long
time on the phone. Patricia might be going, well, my
kids are freezing to dad, I need help and you're
charging me this I can't pay. There's about and they
go good, Ye have you tried putting someone clothes on?

Speaker 3 (54:23):
You know they were a favor.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Maybe the implication is that it was a snarky comment
in this article, but you don't know. Allen said, here's
the telling thing. July twenty twenty five. Our usage was
two thousand, five hundred and thirty one killer watts at
eight hundred and ninety six dollars and nineteen cents. I
like the accuracy here from Allan got on you go.
July twenty twenty four, usage two thousand and seven hundred

(54:46):
and seventy eight killer watts eight hundred and fifty five
thirty eight. So this year our usage was about nine
percent less, but the bill was four point eight percent more.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Ah, that is a good deep dive. Good on you, Ellen,
great deep dive there. Yeah, and this one. Get a boys.
We're in or there's two in our household and are
out from eight thirty until six pm Monday to Friday.
We have gas hot water over winter, we pay one
hundred and fifty bucks a month. Summer we pay about
eighty to ninety per bucks per month. We work six
days a week in summer. That's pretty good going on

(55:16):
hundred and fifty bucks a month.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah, the sticks has said you can add a time
into your switchboard to heat hot water, drawing off peak times.
But you've got to have warm water when you need
it as long as long as long as it's not
cold when the time you get open. You you love
a cold shower, Now, that's a good point. I do.
Actually no wonder my bills so low. I don't have
hot water showers.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah, you're so.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
One quarter of the house doesn't have hot water shower.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
So put on clothes and have cold showers. You'll be
good as gold.

Speaker 15 (55:44):
Liam.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Welcome to the show. You've got some suggestions for power saving.
Oh good, yeah that's correct.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
Lamb, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Some of these old cold houses.
I love the caravan, but some of these old cold
houses that you can do is you can set up
a team inside the house.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Mm hmm yea.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
And yeah, and now even just running a diesel heater
could could be the thing that you had to sort
of modify your situations. It's like like creating a campervan
inside the house, right, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
We feel setting up a wee tent in your living
room just for a little bit of extra insulation. But
I'm sure it would work.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
You're a young family, it's yeah, get one or two kids.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, there you go. I mean, what about blankie blanky, yep, gloves, yeah,
little hat. When I was going up to d nice
to sleep with a hat on, not like a wee
willy winky hat, like not one of those sleeping hats,
you know, but I'd sleep in a beanie. Yeah, because
it would get so cold at night.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
It was a pride of place as a student, wasn't it.
If you could keep your powerball down to a couple
of bucks a week, then you were doing well.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, and some people are saying, I wonder if that woman
that does everything after nine when they're in the in
the in the cheap power zone, is that when you
plug all your phones and everything just suck the grid dry.
Like charge your your drill, charge absolutely everything.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Take advantage even if you don't need it. Get the
drill running, get everything crank in.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I'll tell you what because I got given recently, like
a generator, but it's a charging generators, just a battery
for camping, like.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
A power bank.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, I had a bit, a big one, a huge one.
Trying to remember the firm. It's fantastic product. But charge
that up, yeah, charge that up in the in that
and that after.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Nine h they will keep your fridg running for a while.
Let's go and then bug your Oh eighty is the
number to call. We've got headlines coming up, and then
plenty of more calls coming through.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Bob says. Bottom line, there is no real competition, so
providers have all the power and no care for their customers.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Yeah, nicely see it. It is twenty nine past two.

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Speaker 2 (59:22):
Now back to Mason Tyler.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Thank you very much, Wendy. So we're talking about power price.
Who's going through the roof for a lot of people.
When one woman was told by her power company, if
you want to save a bit of money, just put
some more clothes on.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, and some people have got offended about that. People
are angry that they would say that to a person.
I personally think it's just good advice and it was
advice that my dad gave me on the daily in
the winter growing up and Tonedin. But we were talking
to Helen before and she has one of those deals
where you pay less than certain hours. Right, yes, so
nine till twelve? I mean, is there a limit of
how much power you can suck out of the grid

(59:55):
at that point? Because you know what about running extension
cards out to the neighbor's house and running subletting the
power out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Now you're thinking, now, you're thinking the whole neighborhood just
keeping get an operation, go go hard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
At nine o'clock, You've got extension cords running in every direction,
you've got everything plugged in, all your phones, everything you run,
you run like an echo flow. Portable power station. You
plug that in and suck the grid dry with that,
and then run your refrigerator off that for twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Take advantage. I mean, if the power company comes to
you and see is you're sucking more power than a
small city, say tough luck.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, it's a narrow power. Hey, guys, how about we
talk about the truth. New Zealand is just getting greedy
in twenty twenty five. We shouldn't be having to put
on more clothes to keep warm. I'm sorry, but if
the people don't stand up and start pushing back, then
soon there won't be in New Zealand as we know it.
Cheers Todd. Yeah, but I mean can't you aren't you
pushing back by not using the product as well? I

(01:00:52):
mean that's a good way to push back. Yeah, Like
I mean, is it really raging against the machine pumping
up the heat pump while you sit there in a SINGI.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Watching It's a hell of a revolution.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Watching your four hundred inch television. Cartier, welcome the show.
You've got some warm up techniques?

Speaker 25 (01:01:10):
Yes, hello everyone, So at home, we really put clothes on.
But I mean, when I'm talking about clothes on, is
the a vest, a T shirt and a jumper right
or hoodie, and we basically live like that. Even when
we go out in and out if it's raining, you
put a drain jacket. But inside the household though it's cold,

(01:01:33):
we sort of manage. When I'm working from home in
the garage, I just switch on really the humidifier, which
not only helps me dry my clothes but also keeps
it quite warmish. And at night we switch on the
oven and that basically I got a small house, so

(01:01:55):
it warms out all the living area and we cook.
We also take advantage of the day free electricity, and
that day definitely I pump mostly the dryer and obviously
the oven, and everything happens. And normally I choose a
weekend day. But during the day, even when I'm working

(01:02:16):
from home, like I said, and I feeling cold, I
put a blanket on my legs. I'm working with my
jumper and my jacket on. And yeah, I don't use
I don't use the heaters, not because I don't want
to one.

Speaker 13 (01:02:29):
I don't have one.

Speaker 25 (01:02:30):
I only have a heat pump in my lunge, but
it used to dry my nostrils and I used to
get more sinustritis.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Right than ever, how many people in your house, Katya?

Speaker 25 (01:02:45):
We are to adults, two children, and how many children?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Two adults and how many children two?

Speaker 25 (01:02:51):
Two of them two underpins, So there's four of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
You in your house. And if you don't mind me
asking sort of roughly, how much is your monthly power?
But with these methods you put onto save a bit
of power one.

Speaker 25 (01:03:02):
Hundred and ten in winter and eighteen summers.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Wow? Wow, well there so just wow, that's very good.
Explain to me the oven situation. So do you open
it up as a hate source or this is just
when you're cooking and it hates out the lounge?

Speaker 25 (01:03:17):
Yep, when I'm cooking, I just reached out the oven.
We close the We only always leave windows open, at
least one of them, or right, like to ventilate the
whole thing.

Speaker 12 (01:03:27):
But it's just mainly the oven.

Speaker 13 (01:03:30):
Up until two hundred.

Speaker 26 (01:03:32):
We cook, We.

Speaker 12 (01:03:33):
Bake whatever we need to, let's say, from five.

Speaker 25 (01:03:36):
O'clock top seven a couple of hours and that's it,
and the house remains. By that time, the kids are
already in the bedrooms getting ready to sleep. And if
we go, we don't. Husband and I just put our
pjs and uh our bathrobes or our.

Speaker 13 (01:03:52):
Ropes and that's it.

Speaker 25 (01:03:53):
So yeah, socks obviously winter pjs. Yeah, I had to
learn to adjust. I was one of them that I
used to just heat it a lot until I was
getting too sick with my sign notes. Right, and that
was one of the major issues.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Right, So it wasn't such a power thing.

Speaker 13 (01:04:10):
Hap.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
BIG's your house if you don't mind me asking, Katia.

Speaker 25 (01:04:14):
Three bedroomsoms bright size.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Okay, so it's a big size. Well there you go.
Look at that one hundred and ten bucks a week.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
She's cracked it. Yeah, live like Cartier. Yeah, little blanky blanky, Yeah,
sheeps can blinky.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I'll tell you what. Don't don't poo poo the blanky
on the couch, watch blanky blankie on the couch watching
a horror movie.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yep, the wee woodie. Is it what they call it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Louis Onesie, You're and the missus under a blanking on
the couch. It doesn't have to be all about power
saving romantic yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yeah. Oh. Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is a
number to call. It is twenty one to three.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks,
they'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
It is nineteen to three and we're talking about power prices.
Is it okay for the power company to tell you
as a way to save money to wrap up and
put some more layers on. That's what one woman was told,
and a lot of people teaching through on the ways
that they save power at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I'm a pinsionar and go to the gym at least
three to four times a week, hence only share at
home approximately twice a week. I think minimal use of
the hot water keeps bill down, bills down, and yes,
we'd put on an extra layer before putting heating on,
especially during the day. Keep moving. Yeah, there's so many
people ticking through that they absolutely punish the power at
the gym as you should do you ironing. There's a

(01:05:34):
guy in my gym that lion is completely nude and
he'll stand there I'm going through the changing room. Yeah,
I'm like, I mean, go for your life, mate. I mean,
I'm not prudish, but I mean generally i'd pull on
my box of shorts before I do the full line.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
It's quite a bold thing to do ironing in the
nutty at the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, Greg, welcome to the show.

Speaker 23 (01:05:56):
Yeah, hi guys, show's very good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Thanks mate.

Speaker 23 (01:05:59):
We've bought an no heating nosilation in the middle of
winter and we were walking around like we hear poor
Jersey on you forget what it was like in the
good old days. You know, this has hadn't been touch
for seventy ideas we f thought born it. So yeah,
it was so cold it was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Were about saying, agreed in the country.

Speaker 23 (01:06:20):
We're in life for two and lot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:06:24):
You get cold once you get warm warm. We we
we were sitting forget things with the power bell, the
power company. We paid one hundred and ten dollars a week,
and we've been looking with pretty things are pretty tiled
moments or we've been looking at the power all pretty cute,
see nothing, nothing seemed to be moving to be so
wondering what everyone was contained about. And then last month
we've got my eleven hundred dollars bill. Yeh'd be I'd been.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Estimating, right, yeah, yeah, And.

Speaker 23 (01:06:52):
So that eleven hundred dollars is such a seven hundred
dollars short than three months from what we paid last year.
So that's how much the power bills.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
That bags me because that's the mistake. The estimation is
the mistake, you know, in a way definitely for you
to just sit with eleven hundred dollars, that's rough.

Speaker 27 (01:07:08):
It's not.

Speaker 23 (01:07:09):
We're not happy. So we now we're paying two hundred
dollars a week until we sort of catch up.

Speaker 17 (01:07:13):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:07:13):
One thing I would say though, because this house didn't
have insulation when we first bought it. We put on
the radiator system, which is fantastic, but as as we
couldn't put insulation in the walls until we're doing it,
thrum up. And the rooms in the house that haven't
got insulation, the radiators are tuned right up to five.
The rooms that we have done, we can turn the

(01:07:35):
radiator down to one and it's just as warm as
the other road. So that showed how much of insulation
on the walls. We did the ceiling and we did
the floor, but I think the walls just as much
much difference, you know, it's quite quite different.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
So I had a friend that that just did a
reno on a massive house and got you know, double
glazing in the full modern house renovations and essentially he
lights in a koyir candle to make the place smell
good in and the place is warm. I mean, we
waste so much money with just heating it and it
just going going out through the windows and out, you know.

(01:08:14):
So insulation, if you can get it done, is so
very very important. Obviously.

Speaker 23 (01:08:17):
Yeah, obviously in the walls, because we've got a villa
of the messages, high ceilings. We day if she paid,
call the heat and call the house summer because all
the heat obviously rises, so we don't have to pay
free conditioning in the summer, which sort of balances it out.
Where you find these modern houses, they'll be cranking the
condition up to try and keep cool, you know. So
there's a little bit of us there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yes, what do you think about Liam who rang before?
Her suggestion was that you put up a tent in
the lounge? You put up the we're a caller before
who suggested that you pitch a tent in your lounge
to keep warm.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
That was our response as well.

Speaker 23 (01:08:56):
Much good with three duds on in the middle of
the winter.

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
I can tell you that, yes, you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Just lower us up a little bit to watch the TV. Yes,
look out through the fly at the TV.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Who needs to go camping?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Thanks for that, Greg, and throwing here about that eleven
hundred dollars bill that blows.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Yeah, that's a big one. I'll tell you what. We
had a palid fire down in our christ Tub's place
that was amazing. That cranked the heat super cheap to run.
But also, as you say, Matt, I mean that it
was insulated up the wazoo and it was almost too
much in winter keeping that fire cranking. But there's something
about a fire that is just nice. Yeah, a lot
of people teaching that through. Get a wood burner, Yeah,
wood burner all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Yeah, can you what about coal burner? Can you get
the call back on there?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
We love New Zealand coal. We love New Zealand coal.
All right, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. Cliff. You've got a bit of
a tip for people out there.

Speaker 28 (01:09:48):
Well, I don't know if it's a tip, it's more
of a query really. I was watching YouTube the other night,
as you do, and an ad came on and there
was this device for about forty dollars that you plug
into just any power switching your house and apparently it
saves you up to fifty percent or more on your

(01:10:09):
power BELI every month. And the premise was that the
power delivered to your house postals and surges and your
appliances get more power than they actually need to operate,
but you're paying for it. And apparently this device just
even for the flow off. And they gave a whole
pile of examples of people who'd saved fifty to sixty

(01:10:33):
percent on their powerfuls.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
So I'm just looking at one here. I think this
is so it's an energy saving power unit. So what
it does stabilizes the voltage, reduce the current and improve
the power supply factor in all directions, prevent vaultage unstability.
The product is equipped with anti convex wave device to
prevent the current convex wave and protect it alex of Okay,

(01:10:59):
well that's the surgertic de part of it there. But
that's that's really interesting, so high tech.

Speaker 28 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I don't know, does anybody bought one and had
a result with it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
We've got an electrician listening. I wait, one hundred eighty
ten eighty is this a real thing that Clive's seen
on YouTube?

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Give us a review. Yeah, yeah, thanks for that. Clive
O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is a number
to call. A lot of people texting about Solar as well.
Get a guys, please don't use my name, but we
recently installed solar and it's been an absolute game changer.
We love it and our power bills have completely dropped
through the floor. Get onto the Solar. I don't know
why they wanted to stay anonymous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Shocking information there, anti anti solar legal will come for them,
coming for those people who take advantage of the gym
power are disgusting. My friend and I have to wait
for showers forever while these selfish people stay in the
showers way too long. But I think I don't know
if that's people taking advantage of the gym power situation.

(01:11:57):
I mean just people that take really really long showers
at the gym are selfish, right, Yeah, if just someone's waiting,
I mean, you can do a shower, and what's the
fastest shower? You could probably do forty five seconds? Yeah,
just a quick once over the key.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Here is yeah, let her up before you get in,
jump in, splash it about through the bats out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Yeah. I mean I had a flatmate that used to
take you hour long showers, and I once couldn't take
it any more. So I kicked on the door and
he was sitting there on a chair smoking a cigarette,
had a sandwich in one hand and a cigarette in
the other.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
You couldn't even be angry at him for that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I was angry. What a good man?

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
All right, terrible man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
If you're listening to general, I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Hade hundred eighty ten eighty is number to call it
eleven two three.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used
talk said.

Speaker 14 (01:12:47):
Be.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Afternoon. It is eight to three, and we're talking about
ways that you're trying to save power with the price
of it at the moment. I hade hundred eighty ten
eighties number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
And Jake's got a suggestion. People don't need to shower
every day. Surely I shower twice a week and have
saved heaps of coin, probably why I'm single. We've got
a sparky. Are you a sparky called Sparky?

Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
Are you calling with sparky?

Speaker 14 (01:13:14):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
So so this this this power saving, power saving energy
saving device that you plug into your socket. What's the
deal with those things?

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
It's right the bollocks straight.

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
Up, straight up there.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Everything you're plugging is going to create more loads on
the vious thickets if you're if you really want to
correct power factor correction, which is kind of what they're
talking about, the whole bunch of big words that know,
we're gonna understand except the literal engineers, there would need
to be done at the main's injury point, and so
your supply and so this is just a scam and

(01:13:52):
all the all the all the you know, all the
people saying, hey, yeah it works, we'll just take it. Well,
you know, I wouldn't spend the money on one of
those things, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
It does. It's one of those too good to be
true things, because if it did work, would get around,
would have them all our plates and seconds, wouldn't we exactly?
I think they would be installed with the plugs. The
plugs would have that and all the plugs. If that
was a thing that worked, yeah, I say you may
just put it towards your power belt.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Yeah, very good, Thank you, thank you, Sparky. Good to
clear that one up. Barkie the Sparky Snake Oil Devices
I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of call. Nineteen nine too is the text.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Afternoon goes how big is great? Our power bill is
the exorbitant amount we charge for line rental. Often it
exceeds the consumption of power we've used. It's just crazy
and it's unfair. That's from Craig.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Yeah, Andy, Yeah, we'll go to Andy. Andy. You your
prices of double mate? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:14:50):
Mate.

Speaker 27 (01:14:52):
I was paying footy cents a data usage charge.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Yep, right.

Speaker 27 (01:14:58):
And then Megan Watts, who has a lot of answer for,
removed that low usage charge. It's now on dollar twenty
so that's a four hundred percent increase. And my no,
I went from eighteen cents.

Speaker 20 (01:15:12):
To thirty six. And the kicker is.

Speaker 27 (01:15:15):
That my usage is around about seven eight hundred l
per annum.

Speaker 20 (01:15:20):
That's not change. So I've gone back.

Speaker 15 (01:15:22):
The last two years.

Speaker 27 (01:15:24):
My uses are stored the same, it's not changed yet.

Speaker 20 (01:15:27):
My powerball's gone from eighty.

Speaker 27 (01:15:29):
To one hundred dollars now to two fifty three hundred.
It's all because of this data use is charged, which
she promoted at the time was going to save us
pay because for whatever reason, we're going to be paying
less but raising prices does not mean you're paying less. Yeah,
I don't understand how she was able to get away
with that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I could never figure out their policy. And I'm just
looking at having a look at a media release that
she put out at the time in twenty twenty one,
and she said, phasing out the regulations on low use
electricity plans will create a fairer playing field for all
New Zealanders and encourageer switched to electric technologies. But the
unintended consequences of getting rid of those low energy plans
is like poor old ends doubled as cost.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
God damn unintended consequences. There's a lot of those, a
lot of those floating around that. It was just the
chap that was on a couple of minutes ago regarding
estimating and getting a eleven hundred dollar bill. You can
ring in your estimations each month and they can do
more accurately. Cheers. This is this texture.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Okay, that's good. And this one, hey, guys, I tried
getting into. Oh no, that one has been read. Guys.
The greenies want us to all be using heat pumps
for the environment. I have a large house with two
ducted heat pump units. The power bill is massive. Screw
the greenies and the environment. I'm putting in a wood burner,

(01:16:48):
burn baby, burn, Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Guys, I'm an arrow town, chilly two adults, two kids,
two fires, running a light, water on gas, two heat
pumps and at the moment our power is eight hundred
dollars a month. That's mind blowing from Matt. It is
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
That is a lot, right right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
I still stand by my original thing. It's not the
worst idea in the world to put on a jumper.
Get a blanky if you want to save some money. Yep,
blanky on your knees on the couch.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Two person, blanky, put on a nice movie. Cuddle up,
cuddle up, get.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Warm, maybe you get a bit of action.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Light a candle. Happy days. Right, good discussion, Thank you
very much to everyone. New phone and called on that.
We've got a big hour for you next. So we
are going to catch up with our political reporter Azaria
how a big announcement today in terms of supermarkets, so
we'll break that down for you. And also we're going
to have a chat with former finance minister and politician
Grant Robinson. That's going to be a great chat. So

(01:17:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
You're on new home for instcle and entertaining Talk. It's
Matty and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Sebby.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the program. Seven
past three. So a big news today. Moves have been
announced on challenging the supermarket duopoly. The government says it
will remove barriers preventing competitive supermarkets from launching or expanding
in New Zealand. Senior political reporter Azaria Howe has been
at that media conference and she joins us now afternoon, Azaria, afternoon,

(01:18:37):
good to be with you. Yeah, thanks for joining us
once again. So break it all down for us.

Speaker 11 (01:18:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:18:42):
So Nikola Willis already sort of before this announcement admitted
it wouldn't be a silver bullet, but she does say
the government's been looking at red tape and regulation in
this sort of space. So the big headline of this,
really supermarkets will be up for being fast tracked if
they can improve either regional or national competition. This comes
back from the government's request for information basically found advice

(01:19:04):
from different supermarket players across the country and the world
that there's too much red tape, regulation, stop signs and
things preventing people from actually wanting to set up a
supermarket here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Is that what's been stopping people.

Speaker 14 (01:19:19):
That's what they the people who have responded to that
request for information as saying. They say the government's saying
legislation's set to be introduced in November and past this year.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
So those current barriers, I mean, did she mention specifically
what those barriers are. Clearly they're changing that legislation, but
is it just down to policy or are there other
barriers here? Competition? You know that talk about land banking.
Does that all come into it as well as are
you Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:19:46):
I think one of the main things was this issue
of consenting. Finance Minister Nikola Willis said it can take
years and also millions of dollars to set up a supermarket,
but she's now saying she wants it to be a
matter of months and the Government's also looking to put
that consenting down to one single authority, so that seems
like the big one in terms of their responses back.

(01:20:07):
Nicola Willis was also asked, well does the New Zealand
economy and the relative slowness of it come into effect.
She said, not really as much in terms of compared
to these regulatory issues that we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
So is she talking about here a chain and is
anyone interested as an international chain or just set up
a supermarket? Yes, so just a major part, a single
operator setting up a super market in competition, say you
know in a suburb.

Speaker 14 (01:20:36):
A major part of this. And as an Aucklander you
might be aware with the West Auckland Costco. The government
has been in talks with Costco for potentially more shops
in New Zealand. Now this comes after that West Aukland
Costco has had quite some success in terms of bringing
people from a cross Auckland. When I was in Auckland,
I actually visited it as well, so it is sort

(01:20:57):
of attracting new customers. Finance Minister Nikola Willis really hoping
this one will bring downward pressure on prices, essentially to
ease the cost of living, But there's been a bit
of disappointment as well from the government. They thought Aldi
and Little would be interested in that request for information.
They did not partake in that. But there is sort

(01:21:18):
of a glimmer of hope with Costco.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
What does that say when the likes of Aldi and
you mentioned another outfit there, they're not interested in that information.
I mean, does that say that they cannot see profitability
in this market even with those leavers that have been pulled.

Speaker 14 (01:21:34):
Yeah, well, Nikola Willis. Her response to that really was
we now have a welcome Matt. We're sort of saying
that we can potentially put supermarkets forward to fast track them.
And really her message to Aldi and Little and those
companies that didn't take place is everyone should give New
Zealand another look. So really hoping that they do actually

(01:21:56):
take a look at that. But I mean, in terms
of the Costco option, it seems much more on the
table than any other company.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Yeah, right, okay, some red take being removed. Yeah. It's
interesting though, because you'd think, with how much we've been
talking about it, you think that the amount of profits
was so huge from supermarkets that businesses would be kicking
down the doors to get in. But it doesn't seem
to be the case.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
No, exactly, Yeah, Azariah, thank you very much for that breakdown,
really appreciate it. We'll chat again tomorrow chairs that is
Azaria Howe with that latest announcement, and there'll be more
on that, we're sure with Heather after four o'clock. But
coming up, we want to have a chat about getting
into politics in twenty twenty five. So Grant Robertson, very
well known name, former finance minister now former politician, being

(01:22:39):
out of the game for a wee while he's recently
released as memoir anything could happen. But it was in
a bit of promo he was doing for the book
in an interview and he had a line and here
it is, everybody I see looks better when they stop
in politics than they did when they were in it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
It's an interesting one, isn't it, Because it does appear
it does feel like being a politician now is more
hardcore in terms of the scrutiny and abuse than ever
has been to me looking at you know, when I
was growing up, I thought, oh I wouldn't mind being PM.
Looks pretty good. Now I think it would be the

(01:23:17):
most horrible job possible. Are we making it so horrible
to be a politician, basically aging people terribly being in
there that the brightest and best are choosing not to
go into politics. I mean, not to say I'm the
brightest and best.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
You do it right, mate, you'ah do it right in politics.
But you're right, I mean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Do we really want to make it that bad that
people don't choose to go into it? And then doesn't
that just mean we just get the absolute most power
hungry that are doing it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Yeah, exactly, I mean anyone and we've all got some
sort of skeletons in our closet. You're right, it's the
common or the way that the world is at the
moment that anyone who might have done a transgression in
their past is too terrified of stepping up and trying
to help out the community. Because that's why a lot
of people get into politics, right, most of them is
to try and make a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
They say, Nah, you go online and see the amount
of abuse that Christopher Luxon gets. He gets more abuse
than any politician in my lifetime. Yeah, it's just incredibly
fall on. He seems to just sort of let it
wash off on But you know, is it just too
horrible to be a politician these days? And then there's

(01:24:24):
journalists like you Tyler, just ripping them shreds just for
the rage bait of the audience.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
We love laying into politicians, but can you hear from you?
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call, And coming up after the break, we
will be chatting to Grant Robinson, former politician and one
time ban manager for Matt Heath. But he's coming up
very shortly. It is thirteen past three US talks. It'd
be very good afternoon, due sixteen past three. So former
politician Grant Robertson now Vice chancellor at the University of

(01:24:52):
the Tago. He's just released his new memoir Anything Could Happen.
So he's saw in a few interviews in a bit
of press around that the release of that book, and
there was one line that we spotted in one of
those interviews that struck us. So the line is everybody
I see looks better when they stop in politics then
when they did when they were in it, which is
the hell of a line. But Grant Robinson joins us

(01:25:13):
on the show right now. Grant, good afternoon to you,
oh cured.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
How quickly did you start looking better in the mirror
after you left the politics?

Speaker 18 (01:25:23):
Yeah, pretty damn quickly. Somebody told me that I looked younger,
which she always liked to hear, don't you when you're
at your fifties? But yeah, no, no, I felt mentally
and physically better. Did each take a little while, To
be honest. In the book, I talk about going to
see a counselor in the last period of time when
I was in politics, And remember she said to me

(01:25:44):
she dealt with quite a few high profile people, and
she said, for every year that you're in a high
profile role, you need at least a month. So I
reckon probably after about now, which is about fifteen months,
I'm looking the best I ever have, Guys, So she.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Doesn't have it for everyone, like Barack Obama aged about
twenty years a year and then he hasn't really gone back.

Speaker 18 (01:26:05):
What is two words via there, matte here and to
die anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
What's the you know what bit of parliament is that
that takes the most out of you as a person.

Speaker 18 (01:26:22):
I will answer that, but I just want to say
at the beginning, I kind of know not just the
news tiogs the audience, but a more general audience. There's
not a massive amount of sympathy out there for politicians.
And I do kind of get that, you know, in
the sense that we're high profile people, and you know,
we are well paid. Politicians are well paid relative to
the rest of the population. You know, all of that.

(01:26:44):
It's also a really important role in one that we
want the best of our people to be wanting to
go into. And my observation of sort of twenty odd
years around politics is that the bit that's changed the
most is the way in which the public scrutiny is
in your face twenty four to seven, that your families
are being brought into it, that it's coming close to home.

(01:27:07):
You know, everyone's got a camera in their hand, now,
don't they with their phone, and so they're right in
the face. There's no downtime. You're twenty four seven, the
slightest mistake era, you know, bad temper at moment, and
it's all over the media and the pylon begins. So
I think it's that. I think it's the fact that, yep,
you deserve scrutiny as a politician. Every politician should expect that,

(01:27:31):
especially if it's about policy. And about the you know,
the important things that you're doing. It's when it transfers
over into your private life, your personal life, and it's
just NonStop. Is no respite, and that's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
So you think that the actual media has become more
hardcore and not just social media being added into the mix.

Speaker 18 (01:27:51):
I think it's mainly social media, I'll say that now,
But in a funny way, I feel the same sympathy
for the media who cover Parliament. I remember talking to
some senior journalists before I left, had been around for
you know, a number of years. You said, you know,
in the old days, they would come up with a
yarn that asks people for different views on it, that

(01:28:12):
sort of spend the day working out what was true
what wasn't. They'd write the story and there it would
be on the front page of the Herald or some
other inns and owned publication the next day. Now they
are expected to report on it in real time. There
isn't a lot of time to check facts. Stuff gets
asserted and it's kind of like this perpetual motion machine

(01:28:34):
that everyone in politics is on. And I'm not really
blaming media per se in that, I'm just saying the
whole thing is at warp speed twenty four to seven.
There's very little time for reflection, and I just think
it takes its toll on everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Do you think good people then are turning down politics?
There is a career because of this, because it's so clearly.
I mean, I can see how full on it is
from the outside. I mean, I am part of the media,
but sometimes I claim not.

Speaker 23 (01:29:00):
To be, but.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
You know, it just looks horrible for me. From the outside.
It looks like the most intent hens situation.

Speaker 18 (01:29:11):
Yeah, I think, Look, I think there are people who
are turning it down. Having said that, there also plenty
of people put in their hands up, aren't there? So
not everyone is put off. Not everyone has the same
experience either, you know. I talk to some of my
colleagues and former colleagues who say, yeah, yeah, it was
you know, there was a little bit of that, but
it wasn't too bad. So there are going to be
different experiences. I mean, I get a lot of people

(01:29:32):
coming to me and saying I'm thinking about going to politics,
actually from different parties, and what do I think of that?
And usually I say, look, if you're passionate about what
you believe in, you've got things you would like to
see happen within four New Zealanders, go for it. But
it does come with a health warning, and that health
warning is that you'll lose your personal life. There's a
chance your family will be sucked into it, and you've

(01:29:54):
got to kind of prepare yourself for that. But gosh,
I really want to get the point across. Politics still matters,
the media still matters. We've just got to work out
how we can make it a bit more sustainable.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
It strikes me grant as a job now that could
be pretty isolating that you you know, if you get
into politics and you do well, you're a high performer
by nature. But I look and it doesn't matter what
side of the aisle these politicians are performing on. When
things go wrong, Who the hell do you talk to
that actually understands and can give you genuine advice. Seems

(01:30:26):
to me that that can be potentially isolating for a
lot of people to get into politics.

Speaker 18 (01:30:31):
Yeah, I'd say that's a fair point. In one of
the things I know it was being done before I
left Parliament around making sure that parliamentarians across all parties
were you know, were being given opportunities to have people
that they could go and talk to. And I do
write about this in the book that I had. I
wasn't very good at that. I was probably in the

(01:30:52):
category that you're talking about. But in that last year
just because you know, I have to just resigned and
I didn't take up the PM's job, and that I
definitely needed help and it was the best thing I did.
And the person was not a person with a great
connection to politics. They were just somebody that I I
could talk to. And so making sure those opportunities are available.

(01:31:12):
You know, there's been some work over the last year
or so to try and improve the culture in parliament generally,
because staff and parliament also are caught up in this
kind of malestream along with it, as I say, the
media too. So yeah, having someone to talk to is important.
But you know, I effectively gave up going out much
in the last few years just because there was a
certain time in the evening where where to use it

(01:31:32):
and mad heathers and punishers would with start to talk
to you at a at a rate that you know
was a bit unsustainable, and so I think that you
can find yourself isolated. But I was fortunate I had
a great set of friends who I could see kind
of socially in different settings, and they helped me get
through it as well.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
What about with the parliament, because you always hear stories
about robust chat chats and parliament and then cross party
bears and friendships. Now that everything seems to have got
so polarizing, of politicians still making friends across the aisle, Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:32:06):
Perhaps maybe not quite as much. WHU I think in
the old days that hours at Parliament were actually like
a bit longer. You know, they used urgency more often,
they sat through the night, which we don't do anymore.
We stop at midnight even for an urgency. So yeah,
you know, I think there's probably slightly less opportunity for
that less culture of going to the parliament bar and

(01:32:26):
so on. But look, I know colleagues who have people
across the aisle that they talk to. And again, you know,
he said, jamelessly, plaguing the book for the fourth time
in the interview. But in the book, you know, I
mentioned people like Todd Muller, who who I knew coming
before I went into politics, who you know, who I
regard very highly and I spent time with him. You know,

(01:32:48):
there are others in Parliament who I would have done
that with. But I feel like less so I feel
like it is more polarized. I mean, we're not the
United States, and that's a good thing from my perspective,
in the sense that the polarization you see there as
utterly extreme. But I can see elements of it creeping
in in New Zealand. And you know, I think I

(01:33:08):
think we're good when we do have those robust policy debates,
but we can move past that and respect each other
as people.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
So we've had leaders in times of war and such.
Do you think there's something in it? And you know,
people will say, well, if you want to lead the country,
you need to be hard, and so we want hard, strong,
powerful people that can take anything to lead at us
in the country. Do you think there's anything in that?

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Oh, look, you've got to be tough to lead.

Speaker 18 (01:33:40):
But being tough doesn't mean, you know, being cruel, it
doesn't mean being unnecessarily unkind. And you know, I believe
one of the toughest politicians I ever worked with was
just under dun I mean, she took some extraordinarily difficult calls.
She stood by what she believed and when there were
people telling her that she shouldn't be doing it. That's

(01:34:00):
a form of toughness, but what went with it was
a different kind of attitude and approach. So, yes, you've
got to be tough. Yes, you need to be able
to accept criticism of what you're saying and doing. I
just think we can all see how that when it
goes beyond that, and the level of threats and abuse,
particularly female politicians get is horrendous. You know, I'm gay,

(01:34:24):
so that that gave another kind of angle of attack
for the kind of homophobic abuse that I used to
get a lot of in the role. That stuff's just
not on And we need to all say, no matter
what side of politics we're on, if we see that happening,
that we call it out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
The current promise gets a lot of bad abuse. I've
got to say, do you chew over you know what
what happens? You know, like when you finish Parliament, you
know you're out, you're getting to your life. Do you
do you because you know there's things in my life
that I've done that I chew over over and over
and over again, and and they were insignificant and the things.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Not paying that we'll get to that people, we'll get
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Well, we'll get to that. Do you do you ever
wake up up in the middle of the night and
you're still chewing over the things from your from your
time in parliament.

Speaker 18 (01:35:14):
No, not so much nowadays, but but yeah, I think
that's all part of it. You know, I describe myself
as a recovering politician, and I think you know, there's
there's there are times, of course when you reflect on
what you said and what you did, and I absolutely
agree with you. I mean, I'm saying all of this now.
I'm very clear that there were times in parliament when
I was in full flight where I probably said stuff

(01:35:35):
that was a bit personal. I tried never to bring
families in and there's absolutely to it, and there was
a reason for it. But you know, all of us
will look back on times and say, yeah, I could
have been better in that environment, and you know that's
a natural result of being in that robust arena. I
guess all I'm pointing out is that year when people

(01:35:55):
come out of politics, you can see how much better
they look and feel, and we've got to do what
we can to make the experience a better one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Now, grant to go back to an issue you brought
up before in your book you claim that you too
hundred bucks from when you manage my band.

Speaker 13 (01:36:10):
You not you.

Speaker 18 (01:36:11):
I've got to be fair here, Matt. There were there
were four people in the band, so.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Yeah, well here was lead singer though, Let's be fair here.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
So and you're also say in the book quite clearly
that you're still waiting on the money. Now. I know
that you're back in Duneda and running the university down there,
So can I just say if you could stop past
the nutrition department. My sister is a professor there, so
I'm sure she'll sort you out with that. That too,
on a buck.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Still shirking the bills, making sister pay brilliant exactly.

Speaker 18 (01:36:37):
That's that's the approach that I remember well. But no,
it was put it this way. The fond memories I
have from from kidter Trinity probably our way that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
The money that yeah, very good. All right, well you
definitely got some some good, good amounts of free beers
if I remember back in the day. All right, thanks
for joining us, Grunt, no worries, cheers.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
That is a former politician. Grant Robinson, a one time
band member for Matt Heath and co band manager band
manager sorry, not bad member, but love to you your thoughts.
I one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?
Is it too hard to be a politician? In twenty
twenty five? It is twenty eight past.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Three, Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB supas three.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
So many texts have come through. On nine to ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
High Team speaker Mallard was one of the main reasons
for the demise of parliamentary standards. Is Tony, Matt and Tyler.
I've been discussing how Luxeon's been treated at netball final
where he was invited to along with wife and daughter.
He was booed. You know that's isn't an booing someone
like that like them? I hate him. That is vileent
and ignorant behavior. Many do not or understand anything about politics.

(01:37:49):
Pathetic journalists are not professional, m or unbiased, push their
own agenda, often lending no comparison to yester year very
professional ones. Yeah, it's I mean I always think that
like if someone's with their family and you boo them
at that thing, that that behavior in the new ball
I thought was come on, I mean, person's your prime minister.

(01:38:12):
They've put their hand up this idea that people have
that people from the other that you don't agree with
are trying to destroy the country. You know, they've just
got their idea of what they what is best. Nearly
every politician is the idea what's best that might not
be right yet to boo them with their family.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
The vast majority get into politics and people won't agree
with this, and that's fine because they get raked up
about it. But the vast majority get into politics because
they generally want to make New Zealand a better place,
whatever side of the oil they're on. But really can
hear from you? Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call Wayne?

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
See is In my opinion, there's two roles that you
wouldn't want in life. The first one is the prime minister.
The second is a losing all blex kids.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Yeah, both of those would be very tough. All right,
headlines coming up then we're taking your calls. It is
twenty eight to.

Speaker 19 (01:38:59):
Four youth talks that'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis
there's no trouble with a blue bubble. The government's tearing
down on red tape to make it easier for new
players to enter the supermarket sector. It's received at twenty
four submissions from existing and prospective grocery businesses on the
problems they face setting up in New Zealand. Concussion experts

(01:39:21):
are comparing Playant's trade events to dwarf tossing, where real
human risk is turning into a spectacle. Researchers from the
Repercussion Group are calling for an outright ban on the
activity involving two people running head on into each other
without protective gear. A man has died following a single
vehicle crash on State Highway ninety three. Old Coach Road

(01:39:42):
and Kluther emergency services were called to the crash between
Dods and Hearst Roads around ten to fifteen this morning.
Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour has been given in Order
of Merit by Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelenski. Mahi for Ukraine
founder Katarina Tersk has also been given the award, but
no other key we top politicians make the list. Plus

(01:40:04):
why Kiwi fruit may be the perfect snack See the
full storied NZT Herald Premier. Now back to Masson Tymer.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Thank you very much, Wendy, And we are talking about
politicians in twenty twenty five. Is it just too hard
to punishing to put yourself forward as a politician in
this day and age. Let's say from.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Here this Texas says it's not too hard. We're just
breeding pussies with no balls, male and female. Okay, okay,
thank you for that very descriptive how dare you? Have
Grant Robinson on how dare you? After the debt we face?
How dare you? I know you don't support the borrowing,
you have made that clear, but you are now complicit, Matt.

(01:40:41):
You can't disagree with the politician and then have them
on how do you? It's just from Gretis THUMBOO.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
It's a lot of how do you?

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
How dare you?

Speaker 8 (01:40:49):
You've stolen my dreams in my childhood?

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
How dare you? Damn I gret At Thumbing, I've lost it.
How dare you? How dare you? You've stolen my dreams
and my childhood? Now dare you?

Speaker 13 (01:41:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
That's that nailed it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Yeah, anyway, but that's amazing. Bunberg has stopped protesting for
fifteen seconds to text us a.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
Big fan of the show Greddit fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
How dare you?

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is number two, Dallas,
welcome for the show.

Speaker 15 (01:41:21):
How dare you?

Speaker 24 (01:41:22):
Matt Thort try to put your debt onto your poor
sister in Dunedin.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
That's the worst part, Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
I've stolen her dreams in her childhood.

Speaker 24 (01:41:34):
So Grant, if you're listening, Grant, thanks for all you've
done for us, and good luck for the book, and
make sure you get that two hundred dollars off Matt
and not his poor sister. But my point is politics
is changing. And I don't know you've heard about Gavin Newsoon,
the presidential candidate for twenty eight it looks like anyway,

(01:41:58):
the Democratic presidential candidate. So he's adopted Trump's own language
and style on social media, like talking to caps and
saying make Mega make America Gavin again, Gavin News and

(01:42:18):
this kind of thing. So his point is that things
are changing.

Speaker 13 (01:42:24):
People have no.

Speaker 24 (01:42:28):
Concentration more than like a mosquito, so that it's becoming
like TikTok politics now. And you notice that if you
can't say your message in thirty seconds, you're nothing. Now
it's like everything's changing it's it's going to you've got
to be slightly crazy, slightly outrageous to get your point across.
What do you think of that?

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Yeah, it's interesting and I've been following that. That's the
Gavin us In situation, and recently they showed because of
course it's not Gavin news In writing them. He's got
a team that's writing those things out in the director
of as being out Trump Trump. But it's funny when
people on you know, like himself in the past and
other people in the Democratic Party have been outraged at
the way Trump has behaved and if Gavin Newsom's going

(01:43:12):
to do it back, then it kind of takes one
of the biggest attacks against Trump away from from the
Democratic Party. I would say, because you know, you've been
so outraged at Trump and now you know, if it's
convenient to you, you're going to run the same attack lines.
It's an interesting path. I'm be interesting there if it
pays off.

Speaker 24 (01:43:30):
The interesting thing is that the MAGA support is they
don't do irony or sarchism. So getting really outraised Agarin
Nusan not realizing that he's taking it the mickey out
of trub You know, do you think I think the
problem for Gavin Newson is it doesn't feel authentic.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
For whatever you think about Trump, his nicknames and the
things he says anybody blasts out are Trump, Whereas I
think people can sense that Gavin Newson is trying a thing,
if you know what I mean, He's trying a strategy.
He's got a team that's pushing it, and so there
might be an authenticity problem for him.

Speaker 24 (01:44:07):
Yeah, but I just think, well on, good on for
having a sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Yeah, it's interesting seeing that the people that are doing it.
He's got these young people that are just sitting there
full time, just blasting it out, which is interesting for
Trump because Trump has someone that follows him around. Have
you seen that? He just ran and raves and he's
got a person.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
There, just got a human dictator full noise. Yeah, hey,
you thank you for your call, Dallas. Would you go
into politics? Would you go into politics? Would you go
into politics in this climate?

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
No? Way?

Speaker 24 (01:44:40):
And you notice that just Sinda looks a lot better
these days too. She looked really tired. It's really tiring.
Being Prime minister is really a tough gig. Yeah, you know,
you know, it's twenty it's such a tough gig being
Prime Minister because you always have to go on, you
have to be across everything. It's a really hard gig.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Yeah, thank you for your call, Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Yeah, great call.

Speaker 7 (01:45:04):
How dare you you have stolen my Trea in my
childhood with your empty words, and yet I'm one.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
Of the lucky ones.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
People are suffering, people are dying and dire.

Speaker 5 (01:45:21):
Ecosystems are collapsing.

Speaker 13 (01:45:23):
We are in the beginning of a mass extinction and
all you can.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Talk about powerful. So that was effectively that text and
audio form.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
How dare you have Grant robertson on the show, how
dare you You've stolen my dreams and my childhood?

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
And beautiful mate, it's nineteen two four. Love to hear your.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Thoughts, mad Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon
rolls on Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
It'd be every good afternoon.

Speaker 11 (01:45:53):
Juu.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
And we are talking about getting into politics in twenty
twenty five? Is it just too hard to punishing for
most of the good people out there to even consider it?
Considering some of the abuse that politicians face these days
on both sides of the Aisle of eight hundred and
eighty ten eighties and number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
And look, we've took to Grant before, and tell you what.
It's fired up the text machine to say he fronts
for radio with verbal rubbish, but could not show his
face at the COVID inquiry. I'm surprised you have had
him on Brett. Hey boys, only angry learney lefties, boo people,
level headed writies. Just keep their opinions to themselves and

(01:46:29):
get on with it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Grant was asking for sympathy. He wasn't asking for that
when piling debt onto New Zealand. Grant needs to own
up for what he did. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Nine two is a text number. Keep him coming through.
Well that's a nice one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Well, US Texas is gentlemen, would like to send a
message to Grant Robinson thank you for your service. So
I'll tell you it. It's firing up in the text machine.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
Highly divided, but we love it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
So I mean, I mean, coming out of COVID, you've
got to say things have rammed up, haven't they They have?
I think I think that's that's undeniable. Yep. And look,
as I said before, I mean and so many people
are texting in saying they just would not go into politics.
It just seems too horrible and dirty and everything gets
ripped down, and you know, every part of you gets abused.

(01:47:15):
I mean, you just got to look at the amount
of abuse our primeuster get. I mean they did. Used
to call Rob Muldoon Piggy Muldoon back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
That's right, yep. He gave it back though you know,
he was a pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
They punched someone of the guts and the cargo that time.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
It didn't didn't mind a buzzt up. One hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Mark you
want to have a chat about the quality of politicians.

Speaker 15 (01:47:36):
No good after men, gentlemen, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
Yeah, we're good. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 15 (01:47:40):
I always remember mister Muldoon, he had the laugh yep, yep,
been a taxpayer or just being a normal citizen on
the outside.

Speaker 6 (01:47:56):
And you watch it.

Speaker 15 (01:47:57):
You know, we had great leaders way back a long
time ago, you know, right through to the eighties and
then through the nineties. But ever since then, social media
is coming. I think that's a very easy platform to
lab you so on on either members of the parties
and stuff like that. But when you've when you would

(01:48:18):
look when you look at Parliament now and the parties
that are in there, and the way that the whole
Parliament is pairing on and all the thes and the
stuff that's happened recently and lately from certain parties and
other parties or certain people, how can you have confidence
or respect for people like that that are being paid

(01:48:42):
by the taxpayer and act out like absolute bloody idiots. Mate.
We've got parties basically now dividing causing division between people.
We've got parties that basically see criminals as new victims.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
It's I can see what you're saying. Mark. It's interesting
because from one point we're saying colossn't saying social media
is creating all this abuse and it's so hard and
it's so septic. At the same time, you've got politicians
that use that TikTok format and use that social media
to create the division to get power. So it goes
both ways, doesn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:49:23):
I'll call for just look what's taking in society at
the moment. One, people don't like hearing the truth. The
truth has become offensive. People don't like hearing what reality
is they don't want to deal with it, and then
you've got parties that will that will pander to that
because then they see it as votes. And then you've

(01:49:43):
got parties that you know, promise to deliver it and
they don't. The thing about it is, for the last
ten to fifteen years, it doesn't matter who's in power.
They've promised us all this, they promised us to the world.
No one's delivered. We've gone, We've had We've got parties
that are villa buying, farmers are very back part of

(01:50:03):
the economy. We've got we've got rights and infrastructure and
everything else. You know, you've got the maturity of what
the level that you see from some of these parties
and the people there is beyond a joke. And the
sad thing about it is when they leave Parliament they're
still going to get the peris off the back of
right payers. But the New Zealand is not the country

(01:50:27):
that it used to be. We don't have the leaders
that we you know from what do you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Think mark about what we could do? Though? So do
you think the current situation where it is pretty septic
and there's a lot of abuse for politicians, do you
think that is going to lead the best people to
come into parliament? Do you think we Well, what do
you think would lead to good people putting their hand
up and getting into parliament?

Speaker 15 (01:50:51):
Well, I think basically you've got to have people with
a bit of guts, you've got to have people with
common sense, and you've got to have people that aren't
afraid to call it how it is, and you've got
to have sometimes got to hurt feelings to basically to
make sure that the right things. You can't pinder to
certain parts society just for the sake of it because

(01:51:12):
you don't want to hurt their feelings. We used to
have politicians that said what they were going to do
and they did it for the people. You know, New
Zealand's worked hard over the years to end division, as
were all in one. But when you've got certain parties
that are basically blamely trying to cause I've never seen
New Zealand so divided in my life, but Zillans is

(01:51:33):
actually a very unhappy place.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
Well yeah, it feels a bit like that out there, Mark,
And you know what you're saying, and you're saying it, well,
but you've got to say there'll be a lot of
good people out there who I'm sure could talk, you know,
straight common sense and not worry too much about offending people.
And a lot of people are so worried about people
in their past coming out of the woodwork and making
up stories or maybe some indiscretions they had in the
past that comes to the fore and they say, I

(01:51:57):
can't be bothered. O'bviously got a contribution to make to
this country, But I see the level of abuse that
politicians get and I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
He's gone, he's given up on you. That question was
so long, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
It was I was just getting rammed up as well.
I was getting so excited about it is as I've
had enough of you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
I wonder if it isn't someone statistic it through. It's
the m MP, of course, that it's list MPs, and
it's been able to get play on the fringes that
that that is causing it. I think m MP mixed
with the social media age might be a problem in terms.
The best way to get ahead is to appeal to
TikTok really and and you only need to get your

(01:52:35):
five percent right. So maybe MMP was okay at one point,
but there could be a potential that it's that. It
just that's a horrible mix between m MP and and
social media. It's fair, Warren, are you still there? No, Yeah,
something happened there.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
So Warren, you stood to be an MP. We've only
got about a minute left. And did you not get
elected or you decided to pull out?

Speaker 26 (01:52:59):
I know I didn't get elected and didn't get through
EMP from your Plymouth New Zealand loyal Party, right, Yeah,
it was tough.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
There was things.

Speaker 26 (01:53:08):
We had sprusonairs being trespassed out of where the ballot
boxes were being whatt together on the night, and there
were trespus at seven o'clock and they'll close up at nine.
So the ballot boxes been chucked into cars, interpersonal cars
with no one in them, you know, just one person,
and off they went. There were things like that. Yeah,

(01:53:31):
you know your papers that you that you signed on
your your ballot paper. You remember the little black spicker
that went over the number the numbering there? Yeah, no
one question that. And there were times where I would
turn up to an event where other MP's were talking
and then I wasn't allowed in.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
So yeah, yeah, it doesn't sound great.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
Well, no, that sounds like a hard campaign, but thank
you very much. Right, we're going to play some messages
but would come back very shortly, so many ticks coming
through on this one as well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Yeah, what about the abuse that afternoon radio host have
to put up?

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
We cop a lot. Yeah, yeah, you more than anyone, mate,
But I enjoy it. We love that it's eight to four, the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
It'd be very good afternoon to you. It is five
to four and we've had some full noise ticks come
through on nine two nine till we love it. We
absolutely love it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Yeah, it's been a fantastic show. I've got to say
thank you so much for listening today. Thank you so
much for all your calls and texts. I think we
might have broken some kind of record with the amount
of feedback. This's come through definitely in our one hundred
and ninety shows we've done together, Tiler exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
Going crazy, thousands and thousands and those accusing us of
just generating rage bait.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
How do you have you You've.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
Stolen my dreams of my child.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
Yeah, very fun show. The full Matt and Tyler afternoons
podcast will be out and about now if you have
missed any about chats. Fantastic chats today, actually.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Really good Travis.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Do you want to hear about Tata across your your
entire work?

Speaker 3 (01:55:19):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Yeah? But Tyler, yes, Why am I? Why am I
playing this song by Electric six?

Speaker 18 (01:55:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
This is a fantastic I haven't heard this for years.
It's danger danger high voltage. Some a great chat about
power prices and what people are doing and get a
blanky and yeah they're trying to warm out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Their power company told someone that was complaining about their
power ball to put on more clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
Good advice.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
Does seem like quite good advice, doesn't it. The powerful
heatherdople c Ellen is up next until tomorrow afternoon. Give
them a taste of Kiwi all right then see I
love you.

Speaker 18 (01:56:08):
M h.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
Madam Tyler Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
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