Full Show Podcast: 31 October 2025

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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Talk sed B, well get a to you. Welcome into
Friday show. So good to have you with us as always,
as it's the end of the week for many of us.
Hope you're doing well wherever you're listening. Matt get A
Live from Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, that's right and beautiful, still sunny Wellington. It's fantastic
to be down here. I've got to say the n
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Speaker 3 (01:25):
It looks really nice, so I haven't had the pleasure myself.
That's a beautiful photo of Nick Mills in the background there.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yep, yep. I'm here by the grace of Nick Mills
letting me use his studio, which I say, I can
say it's pristine. He keeps it as clean as Hoskin
keeps the Matt and Tyler studio.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, that's good. That is a very good sign. Now mate,
you were down there for the BYC and Agenda podcast
live tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
That is exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, that's right. We're live at the Harvestide Events Shed
twenty two to seven pm tonight with special guests Grant
Early Yeah, how Javelin. Yeah. So if you've listened to
our sports podcast, The Agenda, this is the live version
of it along with the BYC pod, So there'll be
a lot of sports chat and a lot of deep

(02:14):
and geeky cricket chat. So if you want to come along,
I think there's some tickets remaining seven pm tonight at
the Harveyside Events and Shed twenty two. There might just
be a couple of tickets remaining, and we've got a
couple of giveaway later on in the show, don't we, Tyler.
We certainly do.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
So we'll tell you how to get in the drawer
for those two double passes a little bit later. But
to today's show because it is a doozy after three o'clock,
because it is Friday. We do it each Friday, New
Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Who will win the coveted trophy of Matt Heath and
Tyler Adams New Zealander of the Week. It's a big moment,
Yeth of October.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
It's a massive moment.

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You can have your say, nine two nine two. If
you've got a suggestion who you think has had an
outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over the
previous seven days, we'd love to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
We also, after three o'clock, want to have a chat
about email mishaps. This is after a Kiwi journalist he
has landed himself in the spotlight after a major blunder
that's making headlines from New York to London and in
New Zealand. Of courses, well, his name is Bevin Hurley.
He's quite a renowned reporter. He worked in New Zealand
for a long time. But he published quotes what he

(03:26):
believed was from ex New York Mayor Bill de Blasio.
He sent an email to someone called Bill de Blasio.
Sadly for him, it turned out it was just another
bloke called Bill de Blasio.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
So it got a male source of strife, Bill de
Blasio at gmail dot com. So it's bold to send
that out and just assume it's the right guy and
ask for comment on a Democratic Meryl candidate, zorone Mumdani.
It's bold, it's back. But the funny story, and we'll
talk about this later, is that Bill de Blasio, not

(03:58):
the X mayor, just answered as Bill de Blasio. Because
you're asking Bill de Blasio and what he thinks about
a Meryl candidate, He's going to answer that question. He's
just a businessman, exactly. It it's quite as their question.
So he didn't, you know, they said that he's that
he that he tracked or scammed CNM were reporting that,
but not not true. He just responded to an email
that was sent to Bill de Blasio.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, he was asked mister Deblasio, how do you feel
about this?

Speaker 6 (04:22):
And he answered he.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
It could have been Tyler Adams. You know, Bevin Hurley
could have emailed Tyler Adams at gmail dot com and said,
what do you think about mum Daney?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, and I would have given him a line. I
don't know anything about that person, but I was still
would have responded.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
But it is a humiliating cock cup, you've got to say,
And I feel very sorry for this. This Kiwi journalist,
Bevin Hurley, by all accounts a great New Zealander and
a good person, but he's he's messed up this time.
And look, I think we've all probably done something like
that in our time. Yep, we've had an email humiliator.

(05:01):
I certainly have had a few reply all problems in
my time. That's a doozy, but you know, arguably I
have no credibility. It doesn't matter. But as a sort
of a PSA public service announcement, let's talk about your
biggest email cockups or ones you have seen, so people
can look up for them and potentially not humiliate themselves
as much as you have.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's going to be a good one. After three o'clock,
after two o'clock. This is strike three on this topic,
I think, because we had such great topics of the
previous two days. But how much does it really cost
to raise a child?

Speaker 6 (05:30):
In New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
A new analysis put the price tag for your first
child at a whopping three hundred and forty one thousand
dollars over eighteen years of their life.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, we've come back to it because so many people
wanted to talk about it yesterday, but we didn't quite
get to it. We were so busy, as you say, Tyler,
but I've had kids, and it's my contention that or
my assertion might be a better way, that they aren't expensive, right,
and that all this height that kids are too expensive
to have, I'm going to argue that they cost nothing.

(05:58):
It costs absolutely nothing.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's bold. Yeah, yeah, but that's going to be a
great sheet after two o'clock. And we had so much
correspondence on that when we raised it the last couple
of days. So looking forward to that then. Right now, though,
let's have a chat about arguably the biggest story in
many parts of the world right now, the dramatic turn
for the British monarchy. Prince Andrew has been formally ordered
to vacate his home at Royal Lodge and Windsor, and

(06:22):
will from this day forth be known as simply Andrew
mount Batton, Windsor. So the move, of course comes as
King Charles the Third has launched this formal process to
strip him of all the titles and the honors amid
that mounting concern over his links to the scandal of
Jeffrey Epstein and unresolved sexual abused allegations. The Pallace said
the decision is made notwithstanding the fact that Andrew continues

(06:45):
to deny the allegations, but it stresses it is driven
by the need to protect the reputation of the royal family.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yes, so you know a couple of questions on this.
Do you think the King has dealt with this? Well?
I think he's sort of He's been put in a
position where he has to do it. But it's not
easy to do that to your brother, is it.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know, and you know Andrew hasn't been convicted of anything,
has he not yet? A genuine strenuously denies the accusations.
But there's just so much dirt and filth, and you
know that appearance he made on TV was an absolute
disaster a few years ago, wasn't so if you met
Andrew now, who's now Andrew mount Batten Windsor, He's no
longer his royal highness. It's got nothing royal or highness

(07:26):
about him. It is a big move for you, your
your scummy lowness. You could call him potentially.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Scummy lowlas that's a good title. But it is a
big move for King Charles to make, isn't it. And
it's fair to say he had big shoes to fill
when he stepped in for his late dear mother, Queen Elizabeth,
and he seems to have come into that role pretty nicely.
But that was a decision that Queen Elizabeth herself was
was loath to make to boot out a member of
the royal family, and she had the scandal surrounding Harry

(07:53):
and Meaghan as well.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
So it might be harder. It might be harder for
a mum to boot out a kid than it is
for a brother to boot out a brother. If you
see what I'm saying, Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, that
is and also and also things the story has moved
on a little bit since the Queen that I think
we can all agree was a fantastic human being and
hardly put a foot wrong in her entire life. Incredible.
But think that the story has has, you know, coagulated

(08:17):
a bit more since then, hasn't has become a bit
more disgusting? Yeah? Has it? But you know the wider question,
have you had to kick a family member to the
curb get them out of your life? And if so,
how do you do it? And how do you have
your conversation? Because it can't it can't be easy.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number to call? Really keen to hear your stories?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
So Beatrice, Princess Beatrice, she still keeps her royal titles.
I mean, it's not her fault, is it.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Guy?

Speaker 6 (08:44):
It's a good question.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I'd assume his children they even just thought she was.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
The one that wore the toilet seed on her head
to the wedding. That's right, quite a fascinator she Cayden
Will's wedding. Yeah, yeah, so I think she's all right,
But Fergie's Fergie's out as well, isn't she. He's out
of the royal lodge.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
So they get turfed out too?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Sandringham Home? Which still seems very nice. I've got to
say it's no pallous, but it's.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Some nice Diggs. Well, it's an aestate, you know, Sandring
him a stays, so you know, and I think Fugie
still keeps to keep the corgies, so you know it's
a biggie. Yeah, it's not the same kind of kick
to the curb that you know us us are commoners
would experience. No, but but humiliating. And the humiliation is

(09:33):
being piled on Andrew. If he could sweat, he would
sweat right now.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Said, have you ever reached the point where you couldn't
stand by a family member any more? Love to hear
your stories? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that
number to call?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Just in this to hand. Beatrice and Eugenie's titles aren't
affected at all. They are both still princesses.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
That is good news. They deserve that. It is a
quarter past one. Back in a mole. You're listening to
Mett and Tyler. I hope you having a good Friday afternoon.

Speaker 5 (10:00):

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Very good afternoon you.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
So we're talking about the former Prince Andrew situation where
he has been stripped of all his titles and honors
and from today henceforth will be known as simply Andrew
Mountbatten Windsor, of course because of as connections to the
Jeffrey Epstein scandal and con ongoing fall out from that.
But we've asked the wider question, have you ever been

(10:32):
in a situation where you've been forced to cut ties
with a member of your own family? And how did
that go? O? Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is that number to call? There's a couple of texts
coming through on nine two nine two.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
So as Andrew now royal formerly known as Prince like
when the singer Prince changed his name. No, I don't
think Andrew would want to change his name to the
love sexy sixth symbol like Prince did. I don't think
that would go very well. I feel King Charles did
the right thing in standing down Andrew of all his
royal entitlements. It shows he stands for it is right.

(11:06):
It's a shame not all families are like Charles cetera
when they know their siblings have gone wrong, it's from LEAs,
thank you. I think he's still without an Act of Parliament,
though I think he still can. I think he still
ate the line for the throat, right, don't. I don't
think you can. You can strip him of these titles
and such, but I think he is still legally entitled

(11:28):
to the throne after William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry Archie,
Lily Beet and then Andrew right.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
So it's a long odds.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, but as I've said to you before, Tyler, don'd
have to poison You'd have to poison a lot of people.
There have to be a lot of poison in the
wine at family dinner before he got to become king
and then pardon himself.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's been a long time since the royal family did
that sort of behavior. But you know, you never say never.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, but you know, definitely, definitely. Charles has definitely demonstrated
that he wants to distance the royal family as much
as he can from from what do you call him now.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Andrew Andrew Moreton windsor yeah, just Andrew, Yeah, Oh, one
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. So
how do you think King Charles handled this and also
have you had to fall out with a member of
your family, Beryl, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (12:22):
Hello there, gentlemen, listen. I just want to give a
slightly different spin that girl is. Although she might have
collected money from Andrew to keep quiet, she's certainly speaking
from the grave now through her book. And you know,

(12:45):
I just feel that if Andrew didn't want to stay
in the firm or in the fist bowl, as I say,
he could have done what old Harry did and stepped
aside and given it all up, and then he could
be whoever he wanted. Not that I'm approving the way

(13:05):
that he's acted it all. And you know, I just
feel very much that he was and I mean it's
not in a horrible word, but he's big, fat and
ugly enough to know that he represents, because he chooses
to carry on with it, that he represents the royal
family or the firm as the Queen used to call it,

(13:28):
and he knows he's got to be careful who he
mixes with and who he talks to and all the
rest of it, because you're under the constant scrutiny as
I think he's been indulged and spoiled too much. Maybe
the Queen gave him too much of a loose leash.
And it's sad really, because academically he must have had

(13:51):
something up top gentlemen to have been flying those choppers
during the that war that he was involved in, beginning
with the Fulton's Law, he must have had a bit
of uptop. But he's got no practical sense and he
just bought it on himself and for me, at the

(14:13):
end of the day, this is what I hope will
go on with him, but I doubt it. You've got
to have the discomfsent and then from that proceeds growth.
So I hope that he grows up in a more
practical way than what he's already done. But he couldn't
carry on with the way that he was, And yeah,
it's a bit of a sad ending. I wouldn't have

(14:35):
liked to have been in Charlie. She's having to tell him,
but yeah, no, he just either step aside. If you
want to be a free spirit, or if you stay
in you go with all the trimmings.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, that's interesting. I think free spirit would be a
very generous way to describe Prince Andrew. As for growing up.
He's got his gold card, hasn't he, Prince Andrew? He does.
He's sixty five years of age. I mean, is that
too late for him to change his spots? I mean,
can he redeem himself? I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's a short runway. It's sixty five, not much more
time there for him. Thank you very much for your thoughts, Burial.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh, and he was hanging out with Epstein for a
very very long time. I think you first started hanging
out with him in nineteen ninety nine, So he was
he was powing around with Epstein for you know, a
good close to twenty years.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Long history of friendship, if that's what you call it. Yeah,
And as you mentioned before, it was that interview, that
disastrous interview. How long ago was that? I believe it
must have been about five six years ago.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think that the newsnight, and if you I reckon,
that would have been what two thousands and nineteen. That
was an absolute humiliator for Prince Andrew. That whole thing
about I don't sweat, so that the accusations that I
was all switty, I don't I have a problem where
I don't swis so well. In fifteen seconds later, a

(15:55):
bunch of pictures appeared of I'm.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Swisting, Yeah exactly. Oh e one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. So how do you feel
about how can Charles has handled this? But we're also
keen to have a chat with you. If you're fallen
out with a family member? How did that go? How
do you turn away or turn your back on a
family member that has done wrong? Really keen to get
your stories. Nine two ninety two is the text number?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Or do you want to go into bat for Randy? Andy? Yeah,
come on through it.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
We'd love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
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Speaker 3 (17:26):
Back to our discussion about what's happening with Andrew mount
Bats and windsor no longer Prince Andrew stripped of his
titles because of his connection with Jeffrey Epstein and the
ongoing fallout. But we're also asking what's happened when you've
had to turn your back on a family member of
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Plenty of teachs coming through A nine two ninety two.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Bill says when I was a kid, Andrew was a
hero flying helicopters in the Falkland Islands in the Falklands War.
What a fall from grace. Yeah, I mean it is
a massive fall from grace. I mean, the ongoing humiliation
for the royal family. It's it's it's quite horrible, isn't it. Yeah,
they've had a ra rough five years. You've got Andrew,

(18:08):
he's bringing all kinds of sleeves onto the family. You've
got Prince Harry just absolutely gutter gutter pressing you and
revealing all your dirty laundry for money. So it's it's
it's a rough it's a rough position to be in, Grant.
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
Hey, hi, nat Tyler. How's the game?

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, very well, very well?

Speaker 9 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah's there that you know you've had someone
to do that. But may we've forgotten that King Charles
was cheating with Camilla. Well we wore he was chating
and you know she did, and I was cheating on him.
You know, that's how we get Harry that, you know,

(18:50):
people forget that his infidelity.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I mean I guess you'd say that that is
the infidelity, isn't isn't at the level of what is
being accused of Andrew. Yeah, it's not the same. It's
on the same moral post code. Really, I would say.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
Yeah, it's ten point on the paper, didn't it.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Yeah, but do you think you're just on that?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I mean, Charles probably he got a lot of headlines
during that time and certainly faced a lot of pressure
for what was in fidelity, So you could argue in
that case he paid the price for that, and Andrews
certainly paying the price for his a leading star conduct.

Speaker 10 (19:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:30):
Yeah, yeah, well you know you can't sort of do
that stuff without the price you got to pay someone
who did a little God, you know, one of them
is going to compeat.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
But as the.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
Family members, when my dad died, I admitt my brother
and that came out from Australia, and then I found
out that he wasn't with my brother, and that is
a bit of a fidelity in the family there. But
I need to like the guy anyway, so you know,
I think, like I'm sixty six now, but I kicked

(20:02):
him well to the kid, you know an often now
in the appearance and stuff that and my sister died
just recently, so yeah, yeah, is a good chip. It's
pretty cool. But yeah, my brother is sort of like
I never really liked and always wondered how come he
didn't look like me or Dad or my mum, lare
you know it's odd one out? And yeah, they changed

(20:28):
the will and they they ripped me off because they
couldn't consider that i'd be responsible with the money that
I'd get from from the will, and so they cut
me out and both of them ripped me off. And
then I was in jail at the time for something,

(20:48):
and then I was getting out the next I went
to the funeral on the Friday, and I was getting
out of jail on the Monday, and it's Monday. But
my brother so they could like steal all my stuff
and like it's about told the judge that I'd drunk
roadcast at my dad's funeral. And what I done as

(21:08):
my dad didn't drink bod here and I'd left a
bottle there, and I said, then, your pop Dad, I
had a drink. I didn't expect to be in jarring
my brother told of me, and so I didn't. I
didn't get to spend the weekend with my mum or
my sister, and come Monday gone and quite a lot

(21:29):
of my little belongings and stuff like that will go
on as well. And so I just said, well, you know,
I never liked you anyway, so year around.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Wow, So there you go. It's not only the Royal
family that's incredibly complicated.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Now that is a that is a tough situation. Grant
on all front.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
There was a lot going on there. Thank you so
much for your call mates.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
We are taking your calls on O one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. Have you ever had to turn your
back on a family member or kick them out of
the family. This is, of course, on the back of
Andrew no longer prince, being effectively stripped of his titles
and shunted to outside of the Royal family. Headlines with
Raylen coming up, I W one hundred eight eight ten
eighty is that number? Or nine two niney two is

(22:10):
the text number back in a.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Mo youth talks every headlines.

Speaker 11 (22:17):
With blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.
The Royal family is cast out. Prince Andrew, as the
sexual assault scandal surrounding him becomes too great to ignore,
has been ordered to leave his residents at the Royal
Lodge on the Windsor estate and will now be known
as Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, Pluther and Southland will remain in

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Following recent severe weather, more than three and a half
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You can see the story at NZID Herald Premium. Back
to Matt Eath and Tyler Adam.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Thank you very much, Raylean.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
So we are talking about the former Prince Andrew no
more he is and the process of being stripped of
all his titles and from henceforth will be known simply
as Andrew.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Although we can confirm that Andrew is still in the
line of succession. He is eighth in line, right, so
we can confirm that. So he's only got seven to
knock off and he's he's king now, I see before
to anyone want to stick up for Andrew, and a
bunch of people do so. Here's a text here on
Andy's side. What is Prince Andrew guilty of? Has not

(24:04):
been charged with anything, let alone convicted. It's all trial
by media. Royal family decision to strip him as is
about bringing the family into distribute. But remember he has
not faced any charges and is entitled to a presumption
of innocence or does that not apply to the rich
and famous? I mean that's true.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
He is he.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Has not been convicted of anything, has he But this
textas here as I reckon, Andrew is going to prison
and the king knows it. That's why the King has
done this.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Now, yeah, thank you for those texts, and can't still
get to hear from you if you're backing Andrew. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Kevin, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Hey, guys, entertaining story.

Speaker 12 (24:46):
Hey, I just wondering I ask a quick question before
again further, do you still like the Rolling Stones? Do
you still go and watch it? If they were playing
in town? Would you go and watch them?

Speaker 13 (24:55):
Now?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah? I absolutely would love the Rolling Stones. In fact,
I've seen them a couple of times. Fantastic. And you've
got to say Mickerson.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Good shame.

Speaker 12 (25:04):
Yeah, and Bill Wyman you'd cheer for him, wouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I can see where you're going with this, Yeah, yeah,
can you say so.

Speaker 12 (25:16):
So in his I'm not I don't put this. I
don't just get out there. I don't particularly like Andrew
and we're getting to that in a minute. But here's
the thing. I think he did the pr wrong because
we go with Bill Wyman. He in nineteen it was
the eighties, nineteen eighty eight, or sorry, nineteen eighty six,
so I remember I was about the same age as

(25:37):
the young lady he eventually married. He was seeing her
from the age of fourteen through who eventually married her.
Officially start going out with her at sixteen, then at
eighteen he married her, a lady called Mandy Smith because
she was from my town. So but I was encouraged
by her mother, just to put it in full context.

(25:57):
But we're all going He's fifty two or something at
that point, and there was a much a huge gap
between him and his age. I'd have to check the
exact date or his age compared to that, but we
still cheer now. I just saying Andrews should have my opinion,
he got bad pr by denying it when you can
see there's quite a good photo of him, you know,

(26:19):
in each other's arms, and he's everyone's smiling, looking quite happy.
He should he should have just said, yep, I had
a consensual relationship with her. Why are you looking into
my private affairs? I'm allowed to have He was divorced
at the time, and he was he wasn't you know,
he hasn't been accused of anything or he hasn't been
convicted of anything illegal. We're all trying him by by
media having said that, and I would say this, so

(26:43):
he was enjoying himself as I mean, I say this
from a little bit of knowledge. When I was I
was commissioned as an officer in the army. We had
a visit to his naval air base and unfortunately they said,
I'll come down. Unfortunately they said, can't get you out
of the flight at the moment, because every weekend or
lots of weekends. They were doing liaison exercises with at

(27:05):
working on the or riggs in north Sea, and they're
doing that with the Nouigian Forces, and they were spending
a lot of exercise time in Norway where apparently he
cut a dash amongst the local ladies and they're all
a big fan of him.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So Andry Andy, he wasn't Randy Andy.

Speaker 12 (27:22):
Yeah, he was living up to his name. And the
other thing was but they did. One of the PTI's
there at Portland Naval Base did turn around and say, yeah,
they called behind his back, he's called him the fat
knacker or other words that effects. And he did sweat.
He definitely sweated.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
That was crazy. That was that was a crazy defense
that you don't sweat. You know, if you defense, you
bed to be pretty sure that you don't. There's no
shots of you sweeting yeah from him. I mean that
that really lost him a lot of credibility. So, yeah,
Mandy Smith was I didn't know anything about this Mandy
Smith and this Bill Wyman thing. But so she was
thirty three years younger than him at the time when

(28:03):
they they So he was forty seven. Oh what so Man.

Speaker 12 (28:08):
When they first mats.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
She met ron Stones Blasis Bill Wyman when she attended
the BPI Awards with her older sister Nicola and ninety four.
She was thirteen years old, woman was forty seven, but
wroten as nineteen ninety order bro of. She took my
breath away. She was a woman at thirteen cheapers. Whyman,
come on, he has he got away to give.

Speaker 12 (28:30):
Bill.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Maybe I wouldn't go see them. I'd see McJagger, but
maybe maybe not Bill.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'd hold up a sign saying I'm only cheering for Mac.
That's I'm just saying.

Speaker 12 (28:40):
It's just saying, if we're gonna we're going to you know,
if we're going to judge one on one way, judge
everyone the same and so and so. It's you know,
it's just I think he basically by denying it, he
dug his own grave.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
But what about the I mean, I mean, to be fair,
Bill Wyman hasn't been in the Rolling Stones for what
thirty years? Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 12 (29:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, So if you go to the Rolling Stones, you
don't have to you don't have to suck it up
and cheer for Bill Wyman. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.
And thank God for that. Just on the you'll play
the records, Yeah, but just on.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
The Andrew situation, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
You know, I just keep coming back to that payout
and it was undisclosed, but a reported twelve million pounds
that he paid to Virginia Dufrey. You know, why does
an innocent man pay out if he hasn't done the crime?
And I think that's when it all started to unravel.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Sometimes, yeah, sometimes people just pay out to make the
story go away. Yeah, I mean that's definitely happened.

Speaker 12 (29:32):
Yeah, I think the Ryal I think the Royal family
has a policy of just make it go away. Because
the Royal family, you don't they have a I don't
know if their policy is that you never go to
court or you never go into court and argue. Okay,
so Harry's case, but since he's left, since he's left
the Royal family, but yeah, or left the firm, well

(29:53):
I think you could, but don't complain, don't explain.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Rule that's gone.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean as a from a PR perspective,
but also you could say, when you think about it,
what does what is King Charles really done here? He's
not throwing his brother out on the street. He's just
you know, this guy's eighth in line for the throne.
All he said is that, you know, you no longer
get called royal highness when you're when you're mucking around.
I mean, Prince Andrew has much fun out in public anyway.

(30:21):
So you know, it's it's a symbolic more than anything.
It's not it's not you know, it's not. He's not
gonna end up on the street. He's not going to starve.
He's you know, he's just he's a sendering of the state.

Speaker 12 (30:31):
He's he's going to be called the aristocrat formerly known
as Prince.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, very good or or but he's the one thing.

Speaker 12 (30:40):
As a military thing, he's still the only everything Honore
has been has been taken from him. In twenty twenty two,
he can still use the word commander that commander Bond
He's yeah, right Bank, and so you do retain that
if he wants to use it.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Can I ask you a question as a person that
was was in the British Forces, when these royal family members,
you know, get into you know, the elite of training
to be you know, a helicopter pilot, you know, you
have to do pretty well, do they get any prefer
original treatment to get in there. Does you know Harry
and Andrew get an inside track to become a helicopter

(31:20):
pilot or do they get there purely on their own merits?

Speaker 12 (31:24):
I am so glad you asked me that, because I did.
I did air in utital engineering and I applied and
they said no, and I got to the to the
Royal Engineers eventually. The pure the selection is is it's
it is swayed for them, shall we say? And it's

(31:48):
the selection is is so tough for that. I mean,
they're the best job s final helicopters in the Army
and in the Air Force, and being a pilot of
any nature, if you go, if they ever made fast jets,
looks the fast jets is a step up again which
they never learned to fy helicopters, is you know. But
in the Army we're quite proud that we turn around
so we can teach the junior ranks that we have

(32:10):
corporal supply helicopters and the officers run the air war
or the battle space they call it now the battle space,
so they fly it from the observer's seat, so to speak.
But it's something I applied for nah. Sorry, So there
is the favoritism.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Blue blood blood the Wheels, and.

Speaker 12 (32:34):
I don't mind it as long as they accept that. Yeah,
we do actually get a bit preferential and other things.
When you look at Andrews's career, he got he's also
how to the guy he did do his commando of
course when he's very very young, nineteen years old. I
did that course. I failed, but I gave it the
best go. But it was a real tough course. He

(32:57):
did it, but he managed to do it. He managed
to do it before he got trained as a trained rank.
No one else ever gets that exception. You have to
be a trained before you do the alarms commando of course,
or you go straight in as rule to the Raal
Marines to do that training first. So he got exceptions there.
So you know, it does annoy some people something, and

(33:21):
I'm a little bit annoyed about the helicopter stuff. But
they do actually do a proper job with going talking
to other people who knew them and work with them
in the forces. They're always very good.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah. Well, thank you, Kevin, thank you for your inside
analysis on that and around the Falkland Islands.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Appreciate fascinating. Oh one hundred and eightyeen eighty is that
number of call. We're talking about Andrew formerly Prince Andrew.
How do you feel about him being stripped of his titles?
And if you've ever had a falling out with a
family member, how did that work out it? There's fourteen
to two.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight
hundred and eighty, ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Tyler Adams
Afternoons news talks.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
They'd be very good afternoon. Sure.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
It is eleven minutes to two, and we're talking about
the Andrew situation with the family. He's no longer Prince Andrew.
He is gonna has been stripped of his titles and
his honors for his connection to the Jeffrey Epstein sexual
assault allegations. So ken to hear your thoughts on how
that was handled and also if you had a falling
out in your own family, what happened?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Did you have to turn your back on somebody? Someone's
just texting just sweet un rockstar, just sweet un something something?

Speaker 10 (34:32):
You know?

Speaker 6 (34:32):
That song no is a Bill Bill Wyman.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, Bill Wyman's he had a hit signal with I
guess what a punishing song Jessun Rockstar. A bunch of
people are texting that in. But that's not what we're
talking about. We're not talking about bloody Bill Wyman and
his dodgy activities. We're talking about Randy Andy here. Hi, guys,
first and foremost, I absolutely don't condone anything that Andrew

(34:56):
has done or not done. But there are several other
very high profile men who have had interactions with this girl,
says Penny, when she was underage. Why is it that
these very high profile gentlemen have been given animate anonimity.
They are referred to in her book, but no names.

(35:17):
Is it because they have no money in which to
buy silence? Or perhaps they have more money than the
queen paid out. There is a lot of hawks in
the story and many, many questions remain unanswered. That's from Penny.
So the accusations against the primary accusations against Andrew from

(35:40):
what's the name Giuffrey, and she says that he abused
her when she was seventeen. That's the accusation, isn't it
the primary accusation there?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, correct, And there's obviously that well known photo that
many of us would seem when these allegations first emerged.
I will agree with Penny right that last line. There's
a lot of unanswered questions in this whole Sagon, no
doubt about that. But I think Andrew got himself into
trouble with that of you. He got himself in trouble
by denying he'd ever met Virginia Jiu Frey and then
that photo emerged, So he dug himself into this hole

(36:16):
and then had to try and backpedal that by the denials.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, that's right. So Virginia Gufray sued Andrew and the
US under the Child Victims Act, accusing him of sexual
assault and intentional infliction of emotional distress. This was back
in twenty twenty one when she sued Dufre claims three
encounters with Andrew when she was seventeen in two thousand
and one in London, later in New York and on
Jeffrey Epstein's private island. Flight logs and other documents show

(36:42):
Andrew was in places. Giufrey alleges the meetings took place.
Andrew strenuously denies wrongdoing. The seven civil case was settled
out of court in twenty twenty two without admission of liability.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah right, we're a little bit late. We're going to
play some messages, but we'll take another couple of calls
on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Back in a mow.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
It is eight minutes to two.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Matties Taylor Adams seeking your calls on oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
News dogsb news Dogs there be. It is five to two.
We've only got about sixty seconds. Treever, But you reckon
Andrew should still be a prince?

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Oh no, not really. I just want to say, first
of all, he got what he his action, he got
the consequences. I don't really care. Do you find her
appropriate if I say a couple of things about Virginia
and the other big part.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
In the story, Yeah, why not? Let's roll that dice.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Well, yeah, because you know i'd like to know. I mean,
we don't have I mean, you wouldn't believe everything in
her book, which I hope people don't read her book
and believe everything that's boot bored by her and friends
is all true. And you know, i'd like to know
if that her that was her job, that was her
chosen sport job, sport job and what she'd done, and

(37:57):
was she a working lady, which is okay because in
some countries that age is legal and other countries it's not.
And it's just hard to believe that she got on
a plane at least four or five times going to
watch know she was going to but she didn't do
anything about it, like what did you get on the plane?

Speaker 14 (38:13):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Well, I mean you could argue that she was she
was incredibly young and naive manipulated.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Matt seventeen and eighteen naive.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Well, she was sixteen at the first connection and seventeen
by the time the three encounters with Andrew took place.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
I think what she was for taking and she was
a naive to that lady. You know, even guys aren't
too annive to that sort of behavior. I'm sure they're not.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But do you go, they've got that, We've got that
opinion out there, Treva. Thank you for that. Sorry, we've
just run out of time here. Yeah, and we're three sounds.
I'm shutting you down. It's not it's re front out
of the time.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, the news is hot on our tail. But thank
you very much, Trevor. That's a grenade, right, at the
end of the out and a.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Lot of people agree with Trevor John saying, let's not
stop using her as an accurate source of informations. A
lot of people agree with you, Trevor.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
There'll be plenty more to that story as the afternoon
progresses in over the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
But thank you very much for that one.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
After two o'clock, let's have a chat about how much
it costs to actually raise a child.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
You've got a good opinion on this, Matt.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, and I've just found out some shocking, further shocking
details to the Bill Wyman story. Oh my goodness, I'll
share that.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Okay, this is going to be good.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
That is coming up very shortly newd Sport and we're
a fast approaching great debut company on this Friday afternoon.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
I hope you're doing well. Stay right here. We'll be
back shortly.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
It'd be get ad you welcome back into the show.
Six past two. Just before we get into the next topic,
there was quite a few texts in regards to Bill
Wyman coming through Man.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yes, so Bill Wyman, the former Rolling Stones bassist. So
he started a relationship with Mandy Smith when he was thirty,
four years her senior senior. They married in nineteen eighty
nine when she was eighteen. Then what happened was Bill
Wyman's son, Stephen, married Mandy Smith's mother, Patsy. Right, so

(40:13):
Bill became his own son's father in law and Mandy's
mom became her daughter in law. That's messy, That is messy.
Mandy was both Bill's wife and his stepmother, and Steven
was both Bill's son and his stepfather.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
That is a lot to unpack there.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, but you could argue the mess probably works a
bit better with the son and the mother hooking up
is probably a little bit closer aligned.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think she was thirty forty six and he.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Was thirty right, yeah, yeah, see, nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, nothing wrong with that. Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
But that is fascinating. I don't think it lasted. And
this six says great show. I hung out with Dave Wyman,
Bill's brother, and the Caribbean back twenty five years ago,
great painter and fisherman. The island was a vos Ven duke.
Oh nice, that's from Andy, very good. There we go
love the next week and that ends there. Bill Wyman
chat and move on to the new topic. Yes, and

(41:08):
this new topic, it's going to be a doozy. Actually,
how much does it really cost to raise a child
in New Zealand? So some new analysis was done and
I'll put the price tag of your first child at
around three hundred and forty one thousand dollars over eighteen years.
With each additional child they're a bit cheaper. They still
cost around two hundred and sixty one thousand. Interestingly, though,
while these numbers seem pretty high, the cost hasn't actually

(41:30):
gone up that much compared to past decades. And this
is all in line with more couples who say they
don't want to have kids at the moment.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Because they reckon they're too expensive. Yes, so it hasn't
really changed in twenty years yea. All that say, the
birth rate.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Has dropped significantly, and also the reason given for not
having children being expense has increased. So the perception out
there is that it s it's more expensive now to
have children than it was twenty years ago, when that
isn't actually the truth. So that is interesting, and what
are we talking about here and for that, what was

(42:07):
that the figures three hundred and what to bring up
a kid to adeen? Is that the premium package? Is
that a supreme childhood or.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, it's a good point. Is that the no frills
is our retirement commissioner calls? Or is that the choices
child three hundred and forty one. So that breaks it
down to for your first child eighteen thousand dollars per year.
And that is of course on things like close schooling, food,
outside activity, sports, and the list goes on. But that's races, braces,

(42:35):
your braces, that's that's eighteen k right there.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
But a bean but a boom nah. Both my son's
braces cost twelve thousand each, okay, right around on twelve
thousand each. Yeah, yeah, you know, and it was going
to be right. And I always knew that I was
going to have to pay for braces so very early on,
because when we had our first child, we weren't necessarily
that flush cash wise, so we started putting cash away

(42:58):
for the braces very early. That is, it was easy
that there was a that was a cake walk. We
would have the cash braces. That was fine.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
That is a good strategy.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
But we did guilt them into doing them. You know,
properly cost twelve thousand dollars to put your bloody rubber
bands on your ungrateful little bastard. That kind of thing.
They were tough, did that kind of quality parenting?

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Did you have braces? Did you have to go through that?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I was born with perfect teeth. I can tell when
I was a kid, I'd go the dental nurse and
they would just go, oh my god, these are the
best teeth. That call people in the have the room
to see the teeth. And then I've subsequently had the
knocked out four times, I believe. So, yeahs my punishment
for having perfect teeth. They were too they were too
beautiful to exist, too beautiful for this world. Oh it's

(43:37):
not about me, it's about our kids. Really that expensive,
I would argue, and this is kind of a philosophical argue,
but argument but I was making yesterday. I'd argue that
they cost nothing, because what's the point of working or
doing anything if it's not for your family. That that
is the best money you'll ever spend. That is just life.
You have children, provide what they want, and that is

(44:01):
a meaningful existence. That is that is that is the
most meaningful existence you can possibly have. I would say
that there's no there's nothing better you could spend your
money on than your kids. And look if you don't
go for the full social media family. So yeah, you know,

(44:21):
there's some people that feel like they need their kids
to their kids reflect on them, so so you know,
how flash their kids are, what their kids are doing,
where their kids go and such and begins them. For
the want of a better word, because I don't think
it biggins is actually a word. In fact, I think
there's a joke and the Simpsons about people using the
word and biggins. But if you see what I mean,

(44:44):
there's there's an amount of you know, you can you
can lavish a lot on your kids just so you
look good, right, and you can spend spend a lot,
but I don't. I seriously think kids were a lot
cheaper than I thought they would be, so, you know,
especially right at the start, they cost essentially nothing at
the start. Yeah, you know, you get your family. I've
got three sisters. We just got showered and baby clothes

(45:07):
as soon as our kids came out. And then you
know they don't eat much when they're little.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Yep, in a lot of HAMI dance.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
And the huge desire that that comes over you to
go and make more money than you've ever made before
to make sure that they're okay. Actually leads, I would
say to you, being a lot richer.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, but you'd make copetually, you'd make other cuts in
your life, right that if you're worried about having a kid,
then you have a kid, and you think, Jesus can
I afford it? You make it work, because it doesn't
really matter how much that child is going to cost.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
You will find that much. I've never really thought of
spending money on kids. I've never thought of it that way,
like you might spend money on a car, or you
might spend money on a renovation of your house. I
just don't think it's the same thing. Yeah, that kids
are these things. You love them, You've brought them into
the world. They're the most important thing that's ever happened
to you, and there's a certain amount of money for

(45:59):
their upkeep, and you just never think about it. You
just that that's just why you're working.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yeah, what do you say, oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty do you agree with Matt that kids cost
pretty much nothing, and of course you're going to find
the money if you decide to have kids. Oh one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Nine two nine two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
That Texas says. It costs your soul as well. He does.
I was actually talking to a friend on the plane
on the way down and they were saying, we were
just talking about when you first have a young baby
and you're looking at it and it's such a cross
between absolute love to the point it hurts your heart
mixed with pure terror at the state of the world

(46:39):
and how you have to protect this thing and how
you're responsible for it.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Right it is it does. It begins your soul, but
it also tortures your soul.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
It is fourteen pass to oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. How much does it cost to raise
a child? Love to hear your thoughts and experiences? Of
course it's super cheap, Matt says, do you agree back
in a.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Mow best investment you'll ever make. It's fourteen bars to.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Your home of to noon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talk.
They'd be for.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
A good afternoons.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
You so were you?

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Were you surprised by how affordable raising children actually was.
There's some new analysis that says at costs on average
three hundred and forty one thousand dollars over eighteen years
to raise a child. What do you reckon about that?
Or eight one hundred eighteen eighty is that number to call?
Nine to nine two is the text number as.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Well, Caleb, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
Yeah, very good, And what are you reckon about these figures?

Speaker 15 (47:44):
I don't know who he came up with that.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yet, Madness says on the expensive side or the cheap side?

Speaker 15 (47:53):
Oh that's wait, Expen, like there's no play of child
got that much? What are you what are you giving
your kids? That cost eighteen k years?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah? That would be rough math. That would be what
three fifty a week you'd be spending and your kid?
Have I got that right yet? Yeah, it'll be about
three hundred and fifty. So if you've got two kids,
you know you go cadem No.

Speaker 15 (48:17):
I was just gonna say, like, I mean, you can't
really argue the th that like you've read, can't be
included in because like you're already dreading, or you've got
a home for you and your partner or you and
your wife, and so like okay, you might you could
argue that you need another picture, but like they doesn't
increase your rental buy that much or your mortgage quite
that much.

Speaker 10 (48:36):
And then.

Speaker 15 (48:38):
Particularly for the first I mean for the first of
out kids like the heavens, they don't need anything care. Yeah,
you don't spend a hold on food, and like they're
not going anywhere, they're not going to sports certain Yeah,
I just I don't understand how they came up with
those figures. That's let's business. And then like do you
think like ever actually cost that much? Like people just

(49:01):
wouldn't be heavy, like you wouldn't have kids, Most people.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Wouldn't be able to word, well, this is this is
the this is what they're saying in this in this
particular study is that people think that kids are so
incredibly expensive that they just don't have them. And what
you're saying is that they're not even as expensive as
the study is saying them. And the study is saying
that they're cheaper than people think they are. So there's
people out there that think kids are in even more

(49:25):
expensive than that?

Speaker 15 (49:26):
Caleb, Yes, we've got three kids, three and a half kids,
and like we wouldn't even spend on them all three?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Did you say? What do you mean you've got three
and a half kids?

Speaker 6 (49:42):
I halfway okay, still in the oven?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, so I mean that's seven hundred
you know, like, so that's three kids, by this logic,
would cost you one thousand and fifty dollars a week.

Speaker 15 (50:00):
No.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
See, that's what I was asking Tyler. If this is
the premium package that he's selling here, is this the
supreme you know, the Luck Shrey package?

Speaker 15 (50:09):
The upgrade sounds like you're heading into a private private.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
It is amazing how little you know they cost because
when they're little, I mean the biggest risk for a
parent when their kids are little is that you end
up eating all the food they don't and you get
really fat. That's what happened to me. I was, you know,
serving up you know, nuggets and different types of food
for them.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Maybe food is pretty tasty, but a bananas and cast it,
oh man.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
They don't eat it, and then you eat it.

Speaker 10 (50:36):
Yeah, if I can offer a bit of a buyas
that anyone that's thinking about having kids, Like.

Speaker 15 (50:42):
I mean, there's been no greater joy in my life
about having kids. There is no way in any world
did it cost eighteen thousand dollars a year? And like
if you if you look at the statistics for New
Zealand or particularly any western country, like we're not having
enough kids. Yeah, feelings birth rates like one point six

(51:03):
to a woman, Like in order to in order to
maintain ourlation, we have to have two point one. Yeah,
we're nowhere close to that. Like we're at a declining
populations and that has serious ramifications for the future of
the country.

Speaker 11 (51:20):
I mean.

Speaker 15 (51:22):
Without without population growth is both grow.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Yeah, oh we're gonna have more babies.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Kler, But a question for both of you actually, because
you know we're we're hoping to have a child child
soon and looking forward to that day when it hopefully comes.
But honest honesty call, how much do I do I
need to put aside for when the day comes at
the baby's there? Like what you know, what's a realistic figure?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Nothing anything about it. This whole idea that you sit
down with a pen and paper and a calculator and
work out how much a baby's going to cost. Or
a child's going to cost. Having a child is just
a thing you do and then you pay for it
as it happens.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
This process. It's part of life.

Speaker 15 (52:01):
If you're struggling, Like, there's all sorts of place that
you can go. Again, like people just you just buy
your freends and catholic on the marketplace to trade me.
There's likeause, you.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
What are the fancy because because because people can go
crazy and they can buy the fancy ass you know,
strollers or whatever those bug I think when my kids
were coming out, they were called buggaboos, and you know,
you could spend two and a half grand on on
what you're wheeling them round, or you could just you know,
there's thousands of them dubbed everywhere. You just can get
you know, this was a there's so many abandoned baby

(52:45):
walkers what do you call them? Strollers, strollers, whatever they're called.
They're everywhere, so you can you can choose to spend
two and a half grand on a fancy one so
when you're walking them, other parents can go, oh nice.
Or you can just get get one from you know,
a second hand store or something that costs fifteen dollars yeah,
you know, there's lots of decisions you can make. Hey,

(53:09):
thank you so much for you cool.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, and good luck with the half who's still in
the oven. Very exciting for you, mate, but good cool
to start us off.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, someone says, swimm lessons. Can I just give some
advice for people?

Speaker 10 (53:20):
Do not?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Swimming lessons only exist as a punishment for parents going
going for a swimming lesson when they're one up to
two and all the hungover dads stand in the circle
in the pool. The pool pool rooms about four thousand degrees.
You've got a raging hangover. You have to sing the
swimmer in the pool goes cat, Cat Cat. And then

(53:42):
when they're about four, you have to teach them to
swim again because they don't remember anything from when they're
one and two in the pool at all.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
That sounds horrendous, that sounds absolutely awful.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Just them decide when you're going to take them to
the swimming lessons.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
I say, oh, eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. We've got full boards at
the moment. If you can't get through, keep trying. But
love to hear from you. Was it more cheaper than
you thought it was going to be to raise a child,
and just reading these figures again, apparently three hundred and
forty one thousand dollars over eighteen years. Is that true?
It is twenty three past two, bagfvery shortly. You're listening
to Matton.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Tyler, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news talk SIB very.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Good afternoon, Gie. So we're talking about the price of
raising a child. How much did it cost for you?
The latest figures, according to this analysis from some researcher,
three hundred and six forty one thousand dollars, sorry for
your first kid over eighteen years? Was that true for you?
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is at number to call.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
The Sex says, it's not just the cost out lay
per week. You need to take into account the opportunity
costs such as lost income of parent not working, et cetera,
to come up with the true cost. But Matt is
correct that in reality you'd waste that money on other
crap anyway, goodbye, So the net effect balances out to
the cost being neutral. See that's what I agree. And

(55:04):
also the how did I describe this. Before I had kids,
I wasn't really sure why I was working, because my
partner and I were quite happy just to live on
two dollars worth of fish and chips and just sort
of we didn't really care, yeah, you know, and travel
around and whatever. And so when I had kids, it
suddenly working became a lot easier because there was a

(55:25):
reason to work, you know, So work became more meaningful
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Yep, no, I can. I can understand that absolutely, because
meaning more meaningful if you know what I mean, You've
got a weey human to provide for absolutely. Olma, how
are you hi?

Speaker 8 (55:41):
How are you doing?

Speaker 16 (55:42):
Good?

Speaker 7 (55:42):
Good? Good?

Speaker 17 (55:43):
I have the pleasure of a gorgeous almost thirteen year
old girl.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Congratulations, thanks you.

Speaker 17 (55:50):
She's an absolute gem. And yes to all the evarts,
but yeah, I'm with mass that whole opportunity clast. I
think it's more than three hundred and.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Forty Okay, okay, carry on.

Speaker 13 (56:03):
Honestly, well, you know, being a mon taxi myself and
balancing or life getting people from me to be cee
tod and then having that little mental capacity in between
to go, oh god, am I meant to work in
the middle of here as well, and how am I.

Speaker 17 (56:22):
Going to use all these things together? So I think
it is on a bit of a luxury.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean I guess maybe. But as
part of it, as you say that your thirteen year
old is so fantastic, kens In so important to you,
So isn't the opportunity to have that person in your life?
Isn't that a fantastic thing that is worth absolutely everything
and more.

Speaker 17 (56:46):
Everything I have done and everything I will do to
this day. She's absolutely number one and my best achievement
ever and always will be. But just if we come
down to, you know, dollars and cents, I definitely reckon
it's potentially Morris of three hundred and forty. I mean,
if you want all the extracurricular activities, all the costs

(57:07):
to get there, the school to balance, the swimming, the
how many hours in a day? If you think about
that alone, I mean I think teachers need to medal really,
so where is the time to actually also being a
solo mom, Where's the time to actually down tools and
grab in that little pocket to work to actually provide

(57:29):
this amount of money?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, I mean it is definitely it is the life's
work though, isn't it. And maybe you could argue, like
if you want to extend out the hours when they
get older and you know, they're still in your life
and you have family when you're older, and maybe they
produce some grandkids and they come around and then then
they start giving back, you know, can you effect to

(57:54):
that into the equation.

Speaker 17 (57:56):
I think it'd be really nice to give back now.
I mean, I'm originally from Ireland to do absolutely fantastic now,
just in a neighborhood perspective, school communities aggregate a little
bit more together to you know, I think loads of
people will want more children if they could rely on
that hole. It takes a village to raise a child
and got to run them.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Yeah, I think that's a big part. I think you're sorry.
I think you're absolutely right. I think it used to
be raising children. It's a lot easier if you're in
the same towns as the grandparents, if there's two sets
of grandparents and all those kind of things, if there's
more people available to lighten the load. And then obviously,

(58:37):
evolutionarily speaking, we all live together in packs of about
you know, thirty to fifty, so everyone was looking after
the children, and it was a lot easier. I mean,
I mean you're having to fight off sabertooth targets and such. So,
you know, there were some downsides, but the numbers. But
the way we live now, where you have a child
and then you take it home behind your fence and
behind your walls, and then you try and bring it

(58:58):
up like that by yourself while you're also working and
doing a lot of stuff. It's a very new way
of doing it.

Speaker 17 (59:06):
Yeah. They also it's also it's a message you know,
where is that when I was growing uppy, I could
walk across the field hang out there all day, or
go to the neighbors, or don't your granny's or you know,
she is absolutely my pleasure. But sometimes I look at
I feel sorry for her. I go, man, you can't
even go outside the gage.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
That's another point that you make. It's an excellent point
is that there's more parenting to do now because you
there was never any expectation for me that my dad
would come and watch me play sport or you know,
we had there was four kids in my family, so
there was a lot on But I just don't think,
you know, I know, it's the cliche but I just
ran around the farm all day, did whatever sort of

(59:46):
came back, find some food in the microwave or whatever.
There wasn't There wasn't much to do.

Speaker 16 (59:53):
Was come home my mum.

Speaker 17 (59:55):
You come home when the lights were on, and you know,
if you were a few scratches on, nobody would say
anything and sit down and have your dinner and after
Gosh's you know. And that's why I think. I mean absolutely,
I wouldn't changes for the world. But in reality, if
you want to try and bring up a good human
and not sit them in front of the screen all
day and give them all of what we had with freedom,

(01:00:18):
that is the opportunity cost. That costs a lot. That's
your time, that's your ability to get across anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Hey, Oma, did you have siblings?

Speaker 17 (01:00:28):
Yes, I did too. Yeah, I was the youngest.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, because I think that my oldest sisters kind of
brought me up. Yeah a lot as well, So I
think that they were looking after me.

Speaker 17 (01:00:42):
Either have one, yeah, you have one, or you have four, five.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
All or nothing exactly exactly.

Speaker 17 (01:00:51):
But look, she is my aptic center of the universe.
Doesn't have the answer. It'd be nice to get the
neighborhood and communities a little bit more integrated, feeling safer,
and then I think, you know the whole average of
just being able to come home check them on. I mean,
the Maoris have it right with the pupkaing hour, you know,
every but he looked after each other and off you go.
So taking a leaf from all of us, I suppose,

(01:01:13):
and bringing back some good neighborhoods.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Yeah, nicely said, and beautiful weeks and as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Could a sack. Yeah, kids running from house to house,
lovely playing cricket on the road, all that kind of stuff. See,
but you try having a free range kid these days,
and you'll get knocks on the door from various agentcy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Yes, your kid's running wild in the street. Right, Oh,
one hundred and eighty to eighty is the number to call.
We've got headlines coming up, but love to hear your
thoughts to the cost of raising your kids turn out
to be a pleasant surprise and maybe cheaper than you
thought it was going to be.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
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Yeah. See, I you've got kids that are five and
you say, you know, just walk to school. Then you'll
end up getting a call from the kid pound and
someone will to pick them up and said, what's the
kid doing it on the street? On the oath love it?

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Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Thank you very much, Raylan, and we're having a great
discussion about the cost of raising kids. So new analysis
by some researchers reckon, for your first kids over eighteen years,
it was three hundred and forty one thousand dollars, which
works out to about nineteen eight hundred bucks a year.
For each extra kid you have, that's around two hundred
and sixty one thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Don't be ridiculous, your muppets. It costs out a million
dollars per child if you take into lost opportunity. Cheers
John million marks. Yeah, but my argument is that there
is no lost opportunity. The opportunity is to have children.
So you haven't lost any opportunity by having children. You've
gained children. Yeah, so your head your head. In my opinion,

(01:03:57):
someone says, shut up, you don't have to buy nappies.
They're very expensive. Yeah, they are expensive nappies and I'm
just trying to remember back, I reckon, you might change
a baby's nappy's what eight times a day?

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
Yeah, I don't know. Yep, that sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
It's a lot. It's a lot of times a day. Yeah.
And so look, I've just looked up Huggies Essential Nappies
twenty eight pack eleven fifty.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
Right, there's twenty eight eleven bucks fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Le's ron the numbers. So if I'm saying that you
changed the nappies fifty six times a week, that's probably
enough to put people. You could change eight times a day.
You've got to change of stinky nappy fifty six times
a week. And look I'm making up this number. Someone,
someone that's in the thick of babyhood and toddlerhood might
be able to push back on this. So yeah, I
mean that's that is twenty twenty three dollars a week

(01:04:47):
if you go for the Huggies Essentials.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Well, that's a right. You know, there's kind of like
the butter discussion. You know, how many nappies do you
have to go through? And what about the cloth nappies?
Am I being a little bit naive that what's wrong
with a cloth nappy?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah? There is a lot to deal with the cloth nappy,
you know, with the hanging out and then and the
just the general discussing this of them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's good. I knew there was a lot
of flaws as soon as I said that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
I knew. I mean, the text machine is going to
light up and say, what the hell would you know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
So you've got to be you've got to get a
fa with safety pins and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah,
it sounds like a lot of fair thing. Michael, welcome
to show.

Speaker 16 (01:05:27):
Yeah, yeah, I totally disagree with that media cost of
raising children. We had our first four in three and
a half years, and at the time I was earning
forty five thousand dollars. My wife didn't work, and in

(01:05:47):
today's money that would be ninety thousand. So if you
work that out, there was actually no way we could
afford four children at those current or those projected rates,
but we did.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Yeah. See that's what I think as well. But it's
like this teach sEH. Hey, guys, studies are a bit
like poles, a waste of money people employed to do what.
I get sick of universities giving money to do worthless
research and then it's just garbage. We could do our
own medical slash business research at least goes somewhere that
is productive. I mean, it's what are those numbers again?

(01:06:25):
Tyler just hit us with them again.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
So and this is just the top line figures here,
but they thought over eighteen years for your first child,
a bit more expensive because you've got to buy a
new gear three hundred and forty one thousand dollars for
each additional child two hundred and sixty one thousand. And
I'll just try and break it down as quickly as
I can on what that money goes to. So that
would go to food utilities, everyday goods. That includes nappies

(01:06:49):
obviously food which was mentioned, grosceries, extra power. Then they
say a larger living space, a bigger car or a fridge,
extra equipment in the home for additional children, and then
child specific items and services clothing, toys, equipment, score related costs,
extra activities, braces, dental, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
See this is the premium package that they're selling here.

Speaker 6 (01:07:10):
There's a lot going on there. It's a premium package.

Speaker 16 (01:07:14):
So we had an old car, it was a twenty
twenty five year old Mark through Zephyr I low my
own house. We didn't have electricity, so we had no
electricity bills, and I guess that might sound a bit
foreign to modern day future to be parents. But we

(01:07:39):
made that decision that we were going to have these kids,
and they came up pretty quickly in three and a
half years. And as I said, I didn't earn that
much ninety thousand in today's money. And my second daughter,
who is now twenty five, who her partner earned twice that.

(01:08:01):
They earned one hundred and eighty between them, and they're
talking about, oh, we might have children, but it's going.

Speaker 12 (01:08:08):
To lost us so much.

Speaker 16 (01:08:09):
And I was sort of thinking, well, I won't say
her name, it's a unique name, but I was saying
to her, you know what, we brought up four children
on half what you guys are earning.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
And I guess no, specusly might be a hard sell
for the modern modern parents.

Speaker 16 (01:08:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
How many kids can you can you put on the
boot legally these days? Michael?

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
You know, it wasn't wasn't such a thing back in
the day. You just chuck them in the boot and
all good.

Speaker 16 (01:08:38):
Oh yeah, it was quite a bit of illegal stuff.
One dage I had to go to work because when
we had five kids, I had to do five drop
offs to five different schools and daycares every day.

Speaker 12 (01:08:53):
And pick up every day.

Speaker 16 (01:08:56):
But was pretty the fuel bill was probably more than
the the rest of the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
But now nowadays, nowadays, with all the sacrifice you gave
into those kids. You know, people talk about the cost
of kids, but you know, what have you got for
that effort? Yeah, they they don't. That's my argument that
they don't cost anything because they give you so much.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
Yeah, nicely, that's beautiful mate.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, Matt, you don't know anything about nappies. Modern day
cloth nappies have clip buttons so they fit the kid
for one plus years, and disposable liners so you don't
have to deal with too much grossness. There's got a texture.
And the other one says they have valcrow cloth nappies
with plastic out. It tried those, but they're no good
for newborns. They'll leak like regular Undi snuck and ailings

(01:09:46):
up in the cryp.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Started off so good and they went horribly wrong. Right,
Taking more of your calls on O one hundred eighty
ten eighty, were you surprised at how cheap it actually
ended up being raising children? It is sixteen to three
back in a month.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call eight hundred eighty ten eighty his talk very good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
You're having a great discussion about the cost of raising children.
There was an article which mentioned it was three hundred
and forty one thousand dollars for eighteen years of their life.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Loved to get you thought, that's nearly nineteen thousand dollars
a year. Seems like a lot, did you? Is the
Dark Destroyer up in Auckland at the moment in the
ZBE studio.

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
He certainly is. Yeah, very exciting. He's he's a good
looking man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I've got to say that he does a lot of exercise. Yeah,
so he's in great neck. That's annoying because I'm down
in Wellington today.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
That is upsetting for you. He's having a chat to
Mitchell Hageman, our entertainment reporter. He towers over match. Mitch
is a lovely guy. But he's what he must be
about five foot six.

Speaker 18 (01:10:49):
You could be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Just because you're not six foot doesn't mean you're not
a great guy, Tyler. I mean, what are you five seven?

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Yeah, and I'm a terrible person.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
True, it's a bad example.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Yeah, anyway, mate, I'll say you get a door him
for you. He's finished the interview and he's he's just
having a nice, nice chill out time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Now what a good man six is high. Not everyone
wants or wanted children to raise them properly as expensive.
I chose not to have any. I listened to those
with kids, and they all they do is moan and winge.
I've honestly never met a genuinely happy parent to the date,
well you've met me, and I am a genuinely happy parent,
and you know, there's that winging and moaning about kids

(01:11:27):
kind of. But and I think people with kids maybe
just talk about their kids, which a pretty punishing for
people that don't have kids. And if you don't have kids,
that's your decision obviously. But part of that winging and
moaning is just sort of funny. You know, you've got
to there's a bit of a bit of a bit
of a uh, you know, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
It's a funny part.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I don't know what it is, but it is. It's
winging in a way, but it's also funny and you're
happy to do it all I would say, Carol, you
your thoughts on the cost of nappies.

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
I had three children and I used cross nappies and
they're just so easy. You just stick them in a
bucket of nappy stands, having scraped off anything towards and
stick the lie and they don't cost nearly as much
as disposable nappies, which also pollute the environment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Were you using safety pins or do you have the
ones they have now with.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
The clips safety pins? You have to do it so
much children.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
You have to do it so much, you have to
do it so often that you get You'd get really
quick at it anyway, wouldn't you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
Yeah, absolutely, And you can file the nappy differently for
boys and girls.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
So what do you reckon? What do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
The pushback is for the old cloth nappies. Why don't
you reckon people are using them anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Carol? As much?

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
I think they're probably lazy because I found them just
so easy and I had to use the dryer sometimes,
but very rarely. Most days you can get them dry,
and if you've got plenty of nappies, you're not worried
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I think one thing that another saying Carol, that that
that people think about having kids when they haven't had
them yet is all you know, the disgustingness you're talking
about the earth there scraping off and such. But there's
a strange thing happens.

Speaker 7 (01:13:08):
Kids put a nappy nappy liner on and you just
picked that up and you know it's done and dusted.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah, but my point, my point is your tolerance for
disgusting things grows very very quickly, and you just don't
care about that kind.

Speaker 7 (01:13:23):
Of stuff you take when you when you take a
disposed of nappy, or you've just probably got some you know,
product on the bum, so you've got to wipe that anyway.

Speaker 12 (01:13:34):
Yeah, something.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
Yeah, I I just didn't find it a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
To be good on your Carol. And you know, maybe
if you're out there and and you're still running the old,
the old school system, then then then we then would
love to hear from you, Michael. Michael, your thoughts on
across the raising kids, Well, I.

Speaker 19 (01:13:57):
Think it's actually the people that bring it up saying
it's cheaper than that. I don't know where they live
or what they feed their kids.

Speaker 13 (01:14:03):
But.

Speaker 19 (01:14:05):
If you want to feed your kids decent food, it's
it's going to cost hundreds of bucks a week.

Speaker 12 (01:14:11):
I've got three boys.

Speaker 19 (01:14:12):
They eat more than meat. I think it's ridiculously expensive
to raise kids. I don't regret it.

Speaker 10 (01:14:17):
I'm just saying it.

Speaker 19 (01:14:18):
Yeah, it does cost a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
So you think nineteen thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 19 (01:14:22):
For a kid, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Can you raise them cheaper?

Speaker 19 (01:14:27):
Of course, But if you want them to be in
sports and go to a good school and heat, got
some good food, and be immersed and culture and modern life,
and it costs money.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
You know, where do you live. Do you live in
a big urban center, Michael.

Speaker 19 (01:14:42):
I'm just in Hawk's Bay and Hastings Lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
What a nice place to bring up kids that's already
winning there.

Speaker 19 (01:14:51):
From when they were five, they were walking to the
supermarket by themselves, and I let them go down to
the park by themselves and let them run around the Madwood.

Speaker 10 (01:14:59):
No one ever said.

Speaker 19 (01:15:01):
Anything to me. So the people that think that you
can't do that, I don't know what where their heads at. Yes,
the kids, I wish more kids were When when my
kids walk under the park by themselves, I wish there
were more kids there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Yeah, but I think that's a bit of a I
think that's a bit of a problem, isn't it that
there's not the safety in numbers because so many people
are how they copter parenting that there isn't just a
lot of kids around looking out for each other.

Speaker 19 (01:15:22):
And now my kids are crying all but so and
so gets to play fortnite. I'm well, so and so
should be down at the park kicking a ball with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, absolutely, spot on. Th thanks Michael, oh just quickly.

Speaker 11 (01:15:37):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
But is it worth the cost? You say it's it
is that expensive? Is it worth it?

Speaker 7 (01:15:41):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:15:42):
Yeah, I wish I had more money to spend on it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yeah, exactly, nicely, Good on you, Michael, I mean no
doubt about it. Teenagers can eat a lot, mate, you'd
attest to that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:50):
The hungry give are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
There are only teenagers for a certain amount of time.
So I've got two boys and they really, they really
eat a lot. Yeah, it's an impressive how much they eat.
But you've got to teach them how to make mashed potato,
that is that is the key. Yeah, potatoes are always cheap.
I can't go wrong with spuds, right, beckon a mo
It is eight minutes to three.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Said, be very good.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Afternoon side is five to three and we have been
discussing the cost of raising a child. Was it cheaper
than you thought it was going to be? Plenty of
texts had come through on nine two ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
The sexts is you need to compare apples with apples,
not these parents that are comparing kids born in the nineties. Well,
that's the point of the study, saying that the cost
of bringing up kids proportional to wages hasn't actually gone
up that much in the last a few decades. It's
about the same. Disposable nappies absolutely decomposed. What are you
talking about? It takes a mere five thousand years and

(01:16:49):
they're gone, says Gordon.

Speaker 6 (01:16:51):
Thank you, Gordon.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Oh my god, who is that person saying that parents
aren't happy? I'm another happy as hell parent. There's no
amount of cost I wouldn't pay to have my beautiful daughters.
They've grown up now and they are my best friends. Regardless, Linda,
that's nice. This Texas is Tyler. I would recommend putting
a bit aside each week towards nappies and formula. For

(01:17:13):
whatever reason, the baby can't be breastfeed Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Okay, all right, good to know. I think I'm just
going to do that. The Matt Heath trainer thought and
save nothing and just hope for the best.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Yeah, make it work.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
You've got to make it work.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
You will provide what they need to survive, you know,
you know, even if it's rice pudding and potatoes.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
That sounds pretty good. Actually, nothing wrong with.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Hand me down sports gear.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Yeah, exactly right, great discussion, Thank you very much everyone
who called and text on that one. Coming up after
three o'clock it is New Zealander of the Week. But
we also want to have a chat about email stuff up.
So key, we over in London had a massive email
stuff up. We'll tell you more about that soon. Massive humiliator,

(01:17:57):
but keen to hear your email stuff are stuff up?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
What did you do?

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
And tips for people to not make a dick of
themselves when using the old outlook. That is all coming up.
It is three minutes to three.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
News is next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Your new home for insateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Sabby very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Happy Friday is six past three. Welcome back into the show.
Very soon we will get New Zealand of the Week,
but just before we do that, this is a great
week story. Not great for the person who ended up
reporting on this, but fantastic for our purposes. So key
we journalist has landed himself in the spotlight after this
major reporting blunder that's making headlines from New York to

(01:18:47):
London to right here in Auckland. Obviously, Bevan Hurley is
his name. He's a former New Zealand reporter now with
the Times of London. By all accounts, very renowned and
very successful until now published quotes he believed were from
ex New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, but they actually
came from a different man with the same name. The
other Bill de Blasio sent back what's seemed like a

(01:19:09):
legitimate reply criticizing a Democratic candidate and a friend of
the former mayor. The real de Blasio obviously found out
when this was all published and called the story false
and fabricated, forcing the Times to pull out the article
and apologize and humiliating for all involved.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yes, so basically what happened is Bevin Hurley, the Kiwi
journalist sent a email to Bill Deblasio at gmail dot com.
I believe that was or something there about that, assuming
it was Bill de Blasio, the ex mayor, and Bill Deblasio,
the businessman, just responded with his opinions on the Democratic

(01:19:45):
Meril candidate Mamdani. And it's funny because people are sort
of accusing the businessman Bill de Blasio, who isn't the
ex mayor Bill de Blasio, of being sneaky. But his
argument is I got an email from this reporter from
the Times of London asking me what I thought about Mamdani,

(01:20:05):
and I just responded, yeah, I think Bill Deblasio's he
has as much right to be called Bill de Blasio
as the ex mayor has a right to be called
Bill de Blasio exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
He was minding his own business. Then this journalist sent
him an email and said, hey, what do you reckon
about this? And like most of us, he replied and said, yeah,
go go and give you a quote.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Here he said, I never pretended to be the former mayor.
I just thought it was all in good fun. So
that that's just an example of something. I mean, I've
done this before. Because you know, with another Matt Heath,
because my email's got Matt Heath in it, and you know,
I've been trying to send something to myself. It was
actually what I actually did was I was trying to

(01:20:43):
send quite a confidential contract to myself, but I thought
a good way to send it to myself was through Gmail.
But I just sent it to Matt Heath rather than
Matt Heath in ZI. Yeah right, And as a result,
I got a call back from I got a message
back from a Matt Heath going, this is pretty he's
a pretty full on it's pretty full on confidential information

(01:21:05):
you sent me here.

Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
Well, I'm glad that Matt Heath is actually stand up person.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Well, yeah, you know, Matt Heaths. I mean, I've never
met a bad one of you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
No, I can't think of any of the top of
my heads. You're all right, you're all right, just the one, thankfully,
you're the only one I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Know, just the one that's on the name of the show.
But yeah, I mean we've all had embarrassing email, you know,
email mess ups, so we want to talk about those today.
As is sort of a PSA, I guess, a public
service announcement is sort of a things to watch out
for so you don't make the same mistake. So eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two you

(01:21:41):
are most embarrassing and a dangerous email cockups with one
of a bit of a word.

Speaker 6 (01:21:46):
Let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
to call right now though it is ten past three.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
A fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten
eighty us TALKSB.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Every Friday on Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on
news Talks ZEDB. We name the New.

Speaker 20 (01:22:07):
Zealander of the an honor that we were stolen your
behalf to a newsmaker who's had an outsized effect on
the greatest little country on planet Earth over the past
seven days.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
As always, there'll be two runners up, but only one winner.
Without further passing around, this is the.

Speaker 17 (01:22:26):
Man Heathantana and it's up to Region Zealand of the
Week now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
The second runner up also gets the Unexpected Party Award.
This week, the real Frodo Baggins crashed a full costume
hobbit wedding at Hobbiton. The actual ren bearer was in
Matamata with a few of his Lord of the Rings
castmates for a reunion. He heard the music, wandered over
and made Shirak and Jessica's life. Elijah Wood, you big

(01:22:51):
Harry footage bastard, your hair so much you're basically a
key week and as such you are second runner up
for New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
His story.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Pick your Blacks for our first time. Eight years after
that shock lost to Ireland in the Windy City. They're
back to settle the score and they've sold out the
ninety thousand seedar American Football Stadium, reminding everyone that no
matter where they play, are all Blacks are always the
biggest drawer in the world rugby. But more importantly they

(01:23:26):
are first runners up for New Zealander of the Week.
But there can be only one. Twenty years ago, he
was a curly headed Kiwi bloke and has shared with
an impossible dream launching rockets into space from little Old
New Zealand. Now a Rocket Lab is a fifty billion
dollar global space company and he is freaking rich. Peter

(01:23:51):
Beck for ignoring all the bastards who line up to
tell you can't do stuff in this country and instead
for lasting your number eight fencing wire mentality into orbit.
Congratulations on twenty years you pa see Matt and Tyler
afternoons New Zealander of the Week looked after.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Take get Away, how amyas.

Speaker 12 (01:24:47):
One thing that I'm always sanging on the key is
that we just don't think big and do more and
get after it on news talks'd.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Be very good afternoon, due, and we are talking about
your worst email faux pass. This is after a Kiwi
journalist has landed himself in a pretty embarrassing situation after
he thought he was emailing ex New York Mayor Bill
de Blasio for a quote about a Democratic candidate and
his friend turns out he was just emailing another guy
called Bill Deblasio, who decided to give him a statement

(01:25:17):
that was pretty critical of this candidates. So O eight
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
your worst email faux pas.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
The sixers said I had the same first name as
the HR manager and was often sent confidential information, most
notably all salary increases one year. Yeah, I had the
very similar name. I mean, actually I still have and
that the sky still does. Great guy actually very similar
name to me. It ended me, but he was right
up the top of the company and I was getting

(01:25:45):
seen a lot of interesting stuff. Yeah, a lot, a
lot of stuff. Oh my goodness. I didn't read it,
of course I never would. I took the moral high
ground and I didn't click on any of those attachments.

Speaker 6 (01:25:58):
Very good. He would have been pleased with that. This
is a great text, kiday. Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
I work in tech support and accidentally typed please die
instead of please do. I didn't get a response. I'm
sure of the outcome as a result. That is a doozy.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that
number to call? Nine two nine two your worst email?
Stuff ups or cock ups? I love to hear from you.

Speaker 20 (01:26:22):
I had.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
I had a situation where my father in law I
was supposed to get them tickets to this concert and
he asked me if the tickets were and it had
all been talked about and it was all all happy
and good to go, and he texted me and I
didn't know that. I just I meant to respond cool,
like it's cool, the tickets are sorted. But I seen
book and so he just thought it was incredibly rude

(01:26:46):
and went away and bought the tickets. Oh no, that
I already bought.

Speaker 6 (01:26:50):
Oh no, that is a hoozy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
So he was just like so it was like, so
all that things we were talking about, we're on our
way down. So the tickets are all good? Are they?
And I just responded book and he was like, oh okay,
well you said you'd get the tickets for me, but
I guess I have to book now. So when I
book the tickets, and then when we hooked up, I
was like, you know, ticket's all good, and he goes,
I boughked, like you see it, and I was like, ah, right,

(01:27:14):
it's a doozy. That's a four hundred dollars cocker. I
love that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. This one is quite controversial. Geta guys.
A guy at my work accidentally attached a screenshot of
a text exchange with his drug dealer to the whole business.
Never seen someone scramble so hard to get an email record.
I don't even know how you do that. I mean,
that is an absolute cock up.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Say that again, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
One of my colleagues accidentally attached a screenshot of a
text exchange with his drug dealer to the whole business.
Never seen someone scramble so hard to get an email record,
so it sounds like he wanted to attach a screen shot,
but he attached the wrong one out of his phone.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Ah, that is a doozy, Well, there is. I mean
the most common is the reply accident. Will reply all right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Yeah, that's yeah. I see that a lot in this company. Actually, yeah,
and it's pretty humiliar.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
It is.

Speaker 7 (01:28:09):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
I'm en I've replied all before, and there's that feeling
that you have when you realize you've replied all. I
also feel humiliated for other people when I see that
they've replied all and they're just sitting there and some
sort of personal kind of thing, and you're like, you've
just replied to fifteen hundred people with with this little
comment here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Yeah, And you can't really tell them at that point.
You just have to accept that they're going to find
out and just be embarrassed for the rest of the day. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
your worst or best, whatever way you want to look
at it. Email stuff ups love to hear from you,
and also a bit of a PSA to people listening
out there. What do you need to be aware of?
It is nineteen past three, bag very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
You are listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Very good afternoons. You we're talking about email stuff up.
So eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What is the worst
all best stuff up you've had via email? I one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Plenty of texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
This is a good tip. A tip I worked out
through experience was when composing a lengthy or tricky email,
don't add the sender until you have proofread and a
happy to send. Accidentally sending a draft email isn't great.
That's from Joe Anne. Yeah, that's that's a good idea.

Speaker 13 (01:29:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:32):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Another technique that comes from Abraham Lincoln, although he did
it with just letters written in the old fashioned way,
is to write the email, the angry email, as angry
as you feel, but then don't send it at all. Yeah, yeah,
so you get it out of your system.

Speaker 6 (01:29:49):
That's a great tip.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Absolutely, I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that
number to call? Nine two ninety two. There's a whole
bunch of texts coming through. This one, says guys, replying
to a colleague late at night on an iPhone and
her name Patsy corrected to pasty and for extra fun,
editor pasty emoji in a few times, and as well,

(01:30:12):
I didn't notice until late the next day. She didn't
find it that amusing. And this one kiday, guys. I
once emailed a colleague explaining in no uncertain terms that
a very well known DJ artist was a total waste
of space and his PR agent was basically wasting her
time equally useless and needed firing. Accidentally c seed in

(01:30:32):
the PR agent into the email.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
That is a dozy Peter, welcome to the show. Hey
boys here we don't very good great.

Speaker 18 (01:30:42):
I A little while ago.

Speaker 21 (01:30:44):
I was working for a large national arm and international
company and a customer asked me to send a statement
out to them. So I was only new to the company,
probably three months, and I followed steps of the what
the software told me and the bar you know, you
get a bar says loading It just kept going and

(01:31:07):
going and going and going, and I couldn't stop it.
And it sent their statements to every single customer on
our database. And the next next phone, all I got
was from the CFO kind of like a little bit
of addressing down, but don't touch things that you don't

(01:31:29):
know what you do, and it was yeah, but a
little this way, people paid their statements a little bit earlier.

Speaker 6 (01:31:36):
Than well, at least I came out of it, Peter.

Speaker 21 (01:31:42):
Yeah, well, yeah, I wasn't going to touch so some
little last much longer at that company. But yeah, that
was a good little a slight faux path.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great one. Thank you very much, Peter.
And that's a good tip for people out there. Some
texts coming through on nine to nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Matt and Tyler. I once sent a meeting invite to
two of my colleagues. I then turned up for the
meeting and they didn't. I wrote to them saying it's
on professional. They apologize for this, and then I was
checking my email I was realized I had never sent
the invite. What an idiot I am?

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is that number two call?
In nineteen niney two if you want to send a text.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
I want you, sire, to send a text to my
husband asking him what time he'd be home and ask
him to grab a bottle of wine on his way.
Ended up going to the president of a well known
mental health organization who had the same name.

Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
Oh that's a doozy, is it Gilly?

Speaker 12 (01:32:42):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (01:32:42):
Hello, how are you going?

Speaker 6 (01:32:43):
I'm very good?

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
How are you good?

Speaker 7 (01:32:46):
Good?

Speaker 22 (01:32:47):
So we were just driving out the driving way to
go on holiday and my friend and colleague text me.
She was on matunity leave. She text me to say
that our boss had just handed over a whole lot
of work for her to do and she was on
maternity leave. And I text back saying, oh my god,

(01:33:09):
you know he's so lazy. He just sits around with
his finger up as it could have been so much worse.
That was kind of very polite for me, and rah
rah rah rah. And so then we were just driving
down the road and she called me and she was hysterical,
not laughing. She said, you just tax to our boss

(01:33:29):
and I said, um, So, I was freaking out. And
we were way on last two weeks and I thought,
that's lost my job. It's all over blah. Blah blah
got back from holiday and he emailed me. He said,
I just started to take you out for coffee and
I'm what here, it.

Speaker 12 (01:33:48):
Is all over?

Speaker 22 (01:33:49):
And he said nothing about it. And I said, look,
I need to apologize because I said quiet derogatory things
about you.

Speaker 12 (01:33:58):
He said, no, Look, that's okay. All undred for the
streets at the moment.

Speaker 22 (01:34:02):
Ah, honestly I thought it was all over over.

Speaker 12 (01:34:05):
Oh that is funny.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
That is a good boss to understand that, Gillie. But
that is an absolute doozy. Oh eighte hundred eighty ten
eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Guys. Was very eager to impress my new boss with
onboarding a new account. He had to fast track my
request to do to complete it. He texted me all done,
well done. I meant to say thanks much, appreciate and
staid thanks to autocorrect. My actual play was thanks very much, muppet.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
Oh that is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
All right, we got we've got so many good, good
good stuff ups coming through on text machine, but we've
got the headlines coming up.

Speaker 6 (01:34:44):
And keen on your phone calls.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty what was your worst
email stuff up? Your faux pa, share it and give
other people a tip on what not to do. It
is twenty eight past three headlines with Raylen coming.

Speaker 11 (01:34:57):
Up US talks'd be headlines with Blue Bubble taxis. It's
no trouble with a blue bubble. King Charles has begun
the process of throwing his disgraced brother Andrew out of
the Windsor estate and stripping him of his royal titles.
Andrew mount Batten Windsor's been engulfed and scandal for several

(01:35:19):
years due to his connection to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Prime Minister Chris larks And believes New Zealand could help
fill increasing demand for critical minerals. Its one topic on
the table as he takes part in trade talks at
Apek in South Korea. Meanwhile, ASB says New Zealand needs
to work smarter as well as harder to get productivity

(01:35:41):
to the same level as comparable economies. A report from
the Bank to Day outlines output per worker remains twenty
five to thirty percent below the OECD average. A fire
at the Old fitz Herbert Tavern in central Palmerston North
yesterday has been deemed suspicious. Police want to hear from
anyone who saw someone suspicious at the site before the blaze.

(01:36:04):
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Speaker 6 (01:36:24):
Sayank you very much, ray Leane.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
You know in the New Zealand of the Week where
Elijah Wood was runner up for New Zealand of the
Week after you know, crashing that wedding at Hobbiton and
everyone at the wedding was dressed as Hobbits's beautiful. It's
beautiful footage. It actually made me quite emotional because these
people are obviously the biggest Lord of the Rings fans,
the biggest Hobbit fans. They're dressed up, they're having their

(01:36:48):
wedding and then the actual Frodo Baggins turns up and
you know, just randomly he's there hanging out with Carston crew.
It's actually one of my friends who was filming it.
I've just found out. He's just well, for real, who's
a friend of Elijah Wood and Timpson anyway? So they
they it's gone viral, like tens of millions of views everywhere.

(01:37:08):
How much money is Hobbiton going to make? Now every
single person will want to have their wedding at Hobbiton,
won't they.

Speaker 6 (01:37:13):
They're going to have to get him on retainer. He's
just going to have to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
Elijah's just going to have to stay there full time,
down and jump into everybody's winning photos.

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
But what a beautiful moment.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
And that would be you know, obviously he's still a
very successful actor, but that would be a great retirement
situation for him.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Certainly would he could live in one of those little
hobbit houses.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
He just moves at the beg end just pops out
for weddings. Much How much would you pay for Fredo
Beggins to turn up at your wedding? That's got a
big question. He could do four weddings a day, popping
out at twenty thousand a wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Yeah, a lot of people would pay twenty k's to
have Elijah Wood frodo at your wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
But it wouldn't It wouldn't just have to be Elijah.
You could get you could get Pippin yep. Sam Wise, Yeah,
well these days he got killed recently in stranger Things,
didn't he.

Speaker 6 (01:38:04):
That's right, Yeah, he's got some time up a sleeve
and he's a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Apparently.

Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
Gandalf would be amazing. Gandalf.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
I know he's you know, he's getting getten up there
now in terms of age.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
But Sarah michallon, Sean Austin is his name, isn't it
Sean Austin. That's get him down there, yeah, Aragorn, Pippin absolutely,
Popin could make bank.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Yeah yeah, Pippin and Mary absolutely, And that is amazing
that that's a made Yours was a videographer. Oh one
hundred and eighty, ten to eighty. We're going to get
back to this story about emails stuff ups. So this
is after if you haven't seen this story, it's a
New Zealand journalist. His name's Ben Bevan Earley. So he
was trying to do a story about ex New York

(01:38:45):
mayor Bill de Blasio, and he sent out an email
to who he thought was the ex mayor. It was
the same name, Bill de Blasio at gmail dot com.
Turned out It was just a fifty nine year old
businessman from Long Island. He's a wine and border and
his name was also Bill de Blasio. So he sent
that text out and I quote here just reading the story,

(01:39:06):
the actual response from the the other Bill de Blasio.
He said, I could have corrected him, but I never
said I wasn't I was the mayor. He played along
and he used chat GBT to compose a response criticizing
this Democratic candidate's tax plans in particular as unlikely to
raise the requisite revenue. And it turned out the actual

(01:39:30):
Bill de Blasio was quite good friends with this candidate.
So it's all gone absolutely haywire.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
So the KIWI gymnast, Bevin Early's working for the Times
of London. He just must have thought he had such
a scoop because he's got an ex Democratic mayor, Bill
Bill de Blasio, slagging off the current front runner. And
then it's just not so the moment he realized, when
that moment came in that he had just I don't
know why he thought he had the right email address,

(01:39:56):
but he did. But the moment, because we've all had
those moments in my life where yet just the magnitude
of what you've done, what you've done, it becomes apparent
to you. Yeah, and now this is global news. I mean,
you've got wound. Is like us talking about it or
exactly back home in his own country. During an hour
of talkback on it, this Texas says, Hey, guys, I'm
part of a global retail company. Each year, we have

(01:40:17):
an annual conference and one of the knights is a
dress up theme night that everybody gets them behind. Once
it was revealed that that particular year was going to
be Cowboys and Indians, coms went out to the entire
country company, including the executive team and the board. This
is where the cockup came up. Ayout, Someone at the
head office clearly thought they were applying to a close
colleague and accidentally hit the play with one of the

(01:40:40):
most infamous lines in the company, aarseless chaps. As you
can imagine, he never lived it down and is no
longer with the business.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Yeah, oh mate, that is so goodless chaps.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
That is very funny. But I would argue that chaps
are always asseless.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
It's kind of you. You can wear chaps without pants,
without jeans on, and that makes them assless, but whether
the jeans are or not, the chap never provide an
ass covering. It's good.

Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
It's a good point. The arseless is kind of defunct.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Still I still get the Texas point.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty what was your worst
or best? What you want to look at it? Email
stuff up? Nine two ninety two is that text number
as well?

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
This Texas says Matt, How much would it cost for
you and to randomly turn up at a wedding? Nothing
you're doing for free. I'm just desperate for people to
hang out with.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
That is a great offer nine two ninety two.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
If you want met at your wedding, all right, we're
going to play some messages, but when we come back,
we're taking more of your calls. Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty what was the worst email stuff up you've
ever seen? Whether it's yourself or a colleague, love to
hear from you. It is twenty three to four back
in a month, the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
They'd be very good afternoons you we're talking about email
stuff ups and love to hear your best or worst
one or the best one that you've seen from a colleague.
And many of us have been there, whether it's reply
all or sent the email to the wrong person. I
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
I was FORUGHD an email to attend to from a colleague,
A difficult customer, I replied, is this but still nagging us?
I accidentally sent it to the customer and not my colleague.
Oh that is awkward. That much, very awkward. I like
this text here, Matt and Heath not quite on topic.
Would you consider changing your name to Heath and then
the show could just be the Matt and Heath afternoons

(01:42:36):
on new stik ZBA.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
It does flow better. I'm not look, I'm not against
it at this point. I'll consider it. Let's just put
it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
We'll talk about it in your next contract negotiation. But
maybe a useful tip. I worked as a lawyer for
many years and had a wonderful, conscientious legal executive. She upset.
She was upset to arrive in the morning to see
some quite critical and unfair emails from two couples at
separate times. I knew the couples involved and told her
not to fret or worry, as I could see that

(01:43:03):
emails were sent about nine pm and the senders would
have had a few more wine or gins on board
than they probably should have before sending the email. Yeah,
I mean, I mean you do think that, don't you
If you get a really strange email from someone at
eleven pm? I mean, if you get it at three am,
you know for sure to ignore it, right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
Yeah, something going on in their life, that what they.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Say, You're pretty much going to let them off. But yeah,
I mean, the time of day needs to be taken
into account the content of the email, especially with your
friends that enjoy a drink.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean what late in the night on
a Friday night is never a good time to send
a work email.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
It's a good text.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
I who was a manager drafted an email. I sorry,
A colleague who was a manager drafted an email for
his girlfriend, who was not a manager, for her to
send all your colleagues, containing, among other things, quite a
lot of criticism of her departmental management. At the bottom,
he edited a comment that it ought to make the
idiots pay attention, and even her colleagues who are all

(01:44:06):
brain dead could understand. He added that she should cut
and paste the words into a fresh email and send
it to everyone. She just forwarded the whole damn thing,
his comments and all to her whole department. The sky
fell in, it fell apart. That is a great one.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
Never fought on the email. Always right it yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
There is a bunch of similar ones to this that
Sam has just texted through. So this must happen a lot,
a lot, Hey, Matt and Heath. Note this one says, Hey,
Matt and Tyler, our health and safety director sent a
community a company wide email grilling everyone for not reporting
incidents correctly within the business. The email was sternly worded

(01:44:46):
but professional, but was still a bit ranty. When signing
off the email, he simply stated regard, but with a
significant typing error. He had type T instead of G.
That was seven years ago, and we have been laughing
ever since. You Sam, that happens a lot. It does
happen a lot. I've done with the regard and why

(01:45:09):
it's you know why it's correcting to the G to
a T. That's that seems like a nuclear option, correcting
from the G to the T on that situation. That's
a massive problem with Apple because the difference between signing
off a nice letter with regards and signing off a
letter with the T the G change to a T.
That's a world of part of meaning massively different.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
I mean that needs to be taken all the way
up to Tim Cook at Apple because there's something going
on there. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number to call?

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Hey, guys. I once wrote a very sexy and detailed
and descriptive message to my wife on Facebook message or
about what we were going to get up to later
at home. I accidentally sent it to all my friends.
Oh that's nice, I think, No, well it's what do
you mean that's nice? Well it is nice.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Well nice for the friends to be able to see
that very detailed message.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
It depends how detailed. I mean, how much have you
given away? You know what you're into? Yeah, very true.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
This is a good text to you. I work for
an international drilling company. My operations manager took some time
off and sent out emails to big companies Rio, Tinto, BHP, etcetera,
saying he was going to be a way on. I
can't even say that it's like and you'll leave, but
it's there's a massive typo there and it's a similar
word to bum I will be on leave for ten days.

(01:46:26):
He never got a chance to forget about it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
That's from Adam. That is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call your worst email snaffoos. And maybe not just email snaffoos,
maybe old text stuff ups as well in faux pas.
I mean, arguably that's a lot easier to do via
text than email. I know I've sentaply, had some doozies
when I've texted the wrong person. So love to hear
your stories, and if it's a colleague as well, out

(01:46:53):
them now as your chance. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
If you want to send a text nine to nine
two plenty of texts coming through, Hey, Matt's. I once
signed off an email with sorry for the inconvenience. However
auto techs changed it to incontinent embarrassing. Oh did I

(01:47:13):
mention I was emailing the judge? It's very good, all right,
We've got to play some messages, but taking more of
your calls on oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It
is a quarter to four. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.
I hope you're having a good afternoon. Back very shortly.

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk zed B.

Speaker 6 (01:47:40):
News Talk zed B.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
It is twelve minutes to four and we are talking
about email stuff ups and are taking your calls on Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 6 (01:47:50):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? K
A pet? Hey, how you doing very good?

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
You send a bit of a email faux pas.

Speaker 14 (01:48:00):
I did this going back a few years now. I
worked for a big international company. We had one hundred
and twenty thousand employees back at the time. One of
the guys that was from our Asian country. I I
don't want to discriminate against any other age, but he

(01:48:21):
thought he was sending an email to Asia Pacific HR
about a operation he had done on his wreck. So
instead of sending it to Asia Pack HR, he sent
it to Asia pack operation.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Oh No.

Speaker 14 (01:48:40):
And around about that time, there were thirty thousand employees
and when the email popped in, everyone just popped their
head up and started looking around and sure enough we
all saw the same thing. And then people started replying
back to all saying, you know, this is this email

(01:49:01):
was sent by mistake. And then it just kept getting
further and further and yeah, and then it clogged up
the emails. Yeah, so that was a funny story.

Speaker 6 (01:49:11):
That is a great story. Did they ever come back
from that pet?

Speaker 14 (01:49:16):
No, I know they didn't sign.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
We've lost We've lost your pet?

Speaker 6 (01:49:23):
Yeah, great, Sorry, thank you, Jerry, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (01:49:27):
Yeah, hi boys, Hey, I'm a sales repped down on
one engine and at the panel Beaten Trade and one
of the bands I was driving had like different signs
on all the different stuff we were set up. And
the first one was a panel Beaten Tools and some
of my customers. It was all big black and nice

(01:49:47):
wives fortrans of high band.

Speaker 15 (01:49:49):
And they removed the.

Speaker 23 (01:49:51):
P and the B from the panel beating right. And
I don't want to say, and I don't want to
say what's left. But I was driving around Wellington for
a few months unbeknown to me with that's been advertising
in the back of the band.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Yeah, I can work that out, and most of allis's
can work that out.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
But that is.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Yeah, that is hilarious, Jerry, that's fantastic. Thank you very much, mate,
appreciate the call. A couple of tacks coming through. On
nine two, nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
On a local Facebook community page, a woman posted a
message requesting advice on how to get rid of the
smell coming out of her bag. Unfortunately, she misprinted the
first letter of bag. As you can imagine, it was hilarious.
That is Steve.

Speaker 6 (01:50:43):
Yeah, good on you, Steve.

Speaker 12 (01:50:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
I can't work that out. I can't imagine what that
what that could be, there would have that would have been.
It's just beyond me. I think we got time.

Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
For dares get I das here you going all right?

Speaker 14 (01:50:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:50:56):
Good mate? What was the wrong email?

Speaker 9 (01:50:58):
It was a text message, I said, a text message
to my lover.

Speaker 4 (01:51:02):
Weren't saying hey babe, don't belong I'm in your bed
and can't wait to you know what all night long?

Speaker 12 (01:51:07):
But uh, cinema wife, right, disaster. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
What it does as to day is you're going to
have to sort that situation now. You've got to keep
them separated absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:51:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
That is unfortunate, dads, but thank you very much. I
don't know how you come back from that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
One.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
To be honest, mate, all right, I think that is
us for today on that topic.

Speaker 6 (01:51:27):
But thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
I mean so many texts, Matt, and so many phone
calls on that one.

Speaker 18 (01:51:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:51:33):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
But every Friday we have so many great callers to
our show that every week we pick a caller of
the Week. And this week we were talking about jury
service because Matt, you actually have the call up and
you're tuning up to the courthouse on Monday, and we
had a lot of people with pretty negative things to
say about being on a jury but we had this
call from Victoria who actually loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
And here she is.

Speaker 24 (01:51:58):
The ladies at the front, they goes O jorn it,
we really appreciate you being here. They show everybody a
video and Rosa all about this is how the court
process works. You're really important to us. Last time I
went through the whole process. So we were in this
quite a cramped room, but it was still the same
process with the tourney thing up the front, and they
couldn't get the video going that they usually play, and

(01:52:19):
the lady was like, oh, sorry, we can't get it going. Listen,
I'll just do it, and so she just did the
whole welcome thing herself.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Oh god, see, I love it. It's like when the
Stuart points to the exits and stuff. How good.

Speaker 6 (01:52:34):
So that gives you some confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
Met You're down there on Monday and it turned out
wrote to High Court the place to be.

Speaker 6 (01:52:41):
But hopefully that goes well for you mate.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, I may not be here on Monday,
depending whether I get put into a trial or not.
So it's pretty exciting for me absolutely, But I am
here in Wellington tonight. And if you're a cricket fan,
the BYC and a Gender Podcast live at the Harbourside
Events Center, Shed twenty two from seven pm tonight with

(01:53:06):
special guest Grant Alliott. Your Gender Podcast is the sports
podcast to do, featuring myself and Nice Stewart, g Lane
and Dylan Clever and Paul Ford, but also special guests
Grant Elliott. So if you are interested in a bit
of a live cricket chat, then send us your email

(01:53:26):
address right now on nine two nine two. We've got
a few free tickets to give away to this event tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Yeah that would be brilliant, So get in right now,
your name and your email. That will be a fantastic event.
The byc and a Gender Podcast Live Harberside Event Shed
twenty two. If you're in Wellington, that is the place
to be. Starts at seven pm tonight. And as you said,
Matt the Special, I guess Grant Elliott, yourself, my nice
Stewart g Lane, How good?

Speaker 6 (01:53:50):
How good?

Speaker 25 (01:53:51):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Yep, you ghosts? Sorry you were talking you go.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
I just going to say, I think that might be
us for another fantastic Friday, my friends.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Absolutely and normally I'm trying to play you a song
right now and ask you what it would what it is?
I hear it is, I hear it is. Okay, so
Tyler before we go, good friend of mine, Why am
I playing this particular song here?

Speaker 6 (01:54:15):
As this Bill Wyman?

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Yeah that's right, oh mate.

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
This was because we ended up even some good chats
about old Bill Wyman and amidst the former Prince Andrew chat.

Speaker 6 (01:54:27):
What's the name of the song just.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
See in rock Star?

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
What a June? What is what isizue?

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Actually me, I think it's it's French, right, just sweet,
just swee in rock Star.

Speaker 25 (01:54:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Yeah, you know he's just saying a lot of say
fantastic actually a pretty rubbish song to say it's different.

Speaker 6 (01:54:48):
It's no Rolling Stones.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
It's basically saying I am a rock star.

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
Fantastic all right. Nice to hear about a bell Wyman again.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Yeah, not as credible as some of the hats he
had while playing bass for the Rolling Stones. Yeah, absolutely
all right. That brings us. At the end of the show,
Thank you so much. Are listening the great powerful Heather
Dupless Allen is not up next?

Speaker 12 (01:55:13):
Is she? No?

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Andrew Dickens is in her, Heather Dipsy Ellen is away. Ye,
so Andrew Dickens up next. Tyler will at the very
least be with you on Monday. But until then, give
them a taste to keep it from us. You seem busy.
Will let you go.

Speaker 25 (01:55:30):
We love you.

Speaker 11 (01:55:55):
By We could go on the craft.

Speaker 18 (01:56:03):
Your dad and you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Just leave the gun Star John.

Speaker 18 (01:56:08):
Have on Brasla.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Last out last Bo labor.

Speaker 18 (01:56:17):
There with me and come man breast day Love, Send
me and balance, Just resign bun start, Just have bras
and balance job last out Dace, labor with me, Come man,
breast day Love, end me and balance. Just reasurn bron

(01:56:40):
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