Full Show Podcast: 21 November 2025

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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you, great New Zealanders. Welcome to Mattain title f
also podcast number two four seven for Thursday, the twentieth
of November in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.
What a show today. We got to all of our
topics for once, which was good.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Certainly did black market Siggi's We went deep into the
underground black market CIGI.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Operation so long ago. That was a great chat, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It was a great chat and.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
UNI halls and got a bit of abuse from listeners again,
which were we always enjoy wrong for abuse this time
sometimes it's sometimes it's acurate, sometimes it's not. And in
the middle we did shifting houses, so that was cool,
the stories of shifting houses. And we didn't even get
to the Museum hotel and Wellington. Yeah they shifted that
for TAPPA, didn't they.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
They put that on ball bearings and rolled it up
the road. That's incredible that that's no small feet to
shift the whole hotel.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Kiwi Ingenuity loved today, So download, subscribe and give us
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Speaker 1 (01:09):
Listen to the pod, love you the big stories, the
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Friday's show. Awesome,
dev your company is always Friday is always particularly good
into the weekend for most of us.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Get a Mets, get a Tyler and excitingly, you're having
a barbecue tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I am yes with your barbecue, which I'm very thankful
because it saved me, you know, paying a couple of
hundred bucks for a barbecue. I'm still thinking, oh, what
sort of barbecue I want? But when you see it,
you can borrow mine, so happy days.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, I've got the I've got the Ziegler and Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Nice. That's going to be a good test run for me.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, it's a good it's a good barbie.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I saw it in the back of your car. Looks good.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
It might have some snails and slugs in it, so
you might get a bit of extra bonus protein.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Is that why you covered it up? I've got an
easy stick inside before you handed it over the barbecues.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
NOI is always in an interesting state when summer comes around,
because you have your last barbecue of the year and
then you just put the cover on it and you
just leave it to do it stuff. But there's a
lot of stuff in there that wildlife, like lots of
bits of food. There's bits of fat and stuff. So
it has a whole nother life. A barbecue has its

(02:26):
summer life, which is interacting a lot with humans, and
then it has its winter life, was interacting a lot
with slugs, snails, rats, and anyone else looking for a
feed in the cold months.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
So there could be a whole ecosystem in there.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'll just fire it up and burn anything.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Fire takes care of ecosystems very well.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
A hedge, I will jump out a rabbit, you know,
potentially my dog Colin will be It'll be an adventure
for you.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, I like an adventure.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
I might.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I might have the second round of sausas tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah yeah, I'll get it cranky before you arrive, mate,
But thank you very much for that. Right on to
today's show, After three o'clock, Is there anything wrong with
solo drinking? Story about a pub that's banned solo drinkers.
They say, for everybody's safety. Turns out the solo drinkers
in that particular pub get a bit pisty a little
bit later on. But I think it's something that doesn't
really happen that often. I use that word PISTI by

(03:19):
the way, the pub I didn't use it. But it's
something that doesn't epen that often in Kiwi life in
my circles anyway, Just to sort of rocking into a
pub by yourself and say, I'm just going to have
a couple of drinks, Sola.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'm angry about this because I'm often touring the country
doing various gigs and I'll often be by myself and
I might have a little drink before I go to
the show, right, yeah, and so as everyone looking at me, going,
look that guy, he's going to start being a bit
of a piece later on.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Are you right at the bar or do you go
take a seat?

Speaker 7 (03:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Sometimes I sit at the bar. If I'm looking for company.
I'll talk to the bar staff.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Out those poor bar stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
But you know, and I'm not going over to a
dark corner and sort of just scanning the room creepily
like Aragorn and Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
You don't ask for the whole bottle and just hide away.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I love that cliche in a movie where they just
leave the bottle, that you could never do that at
a bar anywhere in the world. They just leave a
whole bottle of spirits for you to just drink at
your leisure.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah bar, if only?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah No, I think I think there's a lot to
be said for having a little quite drink by yourself
and the fact that this paboner judges you for that.
I will not be drinking my one light beer by
myself at your pub sit.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm sure he's got it about that, But that's going
to be a good chet after three o'clock. After two o'clock,
want to talk about quotes in the sense of being
a trade and a customer. So this is after consuming
New Zealand issue a reminder two companies about best quoting practices.
A hawks bad woman. She skipped over a detail in
her quote. It was for a house clean for one
hundred and fifty bucks, but it's set at the bottom.
New customers will be charged twice that amount, so she

(04:46):
was about horrified to see it was three hundred bucks
once the job was done and dusted. So what are
the rules when it comes to quotes as a trading
as a customer. Have you been stung by someone who
quoted pretty low and then the final bill ended up
being three times that?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, what's it about new customers that get charged twice
as much?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
If anything, they should get a discount.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, you'd think you want to have an ongoing relationship
r Yeah. Yeah. Is it you have to get up
to scratch? Is there first clean or something? When clean
is first go around the houses that they go, Well,
this place is filthy, so I'm gonna have to do
a bigger clean than I normally did. But anyway, that's
all we're talking about. What we're talking about is quotes
and is there a moral obligation for the quote, even
if legally there isn't, even if they've got a bunch

(05:23):
of small print, is morally for it to be within
ten percent?

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I mean someone needs to talk to the people that
quoted on the city rail link they're out the gate.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I actually anyone that's quoted on any government infrastructure bill
in the last fifty years. Ye, they probably need to
be tasered.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Get Consumer New Zealand onto those guys. But that is
after two o'clock because right now we want to have
a chat about an opinion piece Audrey Young did for
the Herald and it's been picked up by Barry Soaper
and others. Growing speculation around Christopher Luxe and as leader
of the National Party, that speculation is he's at risk
of being rolled rather by Chris Bishops. So the opinion
piece by Audrey Young claimed that Labor was going extra

(06:06):
hard on Bishop over the cycleway project because he was
likely to take over that party by twenty twenty six
and mentioned Barry Soper Hopefully we'll have a chat to
him a little bit later this hour, but he told
here the last night that National is clearly taking a
hit in the polls and there was discussions about Luckeen's
leadership abilities taking place.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
So one hundred and eighty ten eighty do you think
this is real? What are your thoughts on National's chances
at the next election, would they be different with Chris
Bishop over Christopher Luction And what do you think about
the job that christ deph Luckxon has done. As I
say to you before Tyler, National was a basket case
in terms of infighting and leaking and people being rolled

(06:48):
and stabbed in the back. You've got to say that
Christoph Luxon has come in and cleaned house, hasn't he?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
He has.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's a very disciplined operation. Whatever you think of what
they've achieved, they're a very disciplined operation these days.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
You look at the Todd Muller debarcle and that was
an absolute debarkle and the party imploded and then Judith
did what she could to save the furniture. But that
was one of the works stever results election results for
National under Judith Collins. And granted she was left an
absolute mess. So you're right, Luxon coming in stabilized as
much as he could. But can you get your views
soight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
This Texas says the only people talking negatively about Christopher
Luxon are the media and labor. They've started before he
even won the election. Tall poppy syndrome a classic example
as the line he ran in New Zealand into the
ground when simple searches show he left them after record prophets.
Matthew Houghton, by his own admission, has never supported Christopher

(07:40):
Luxe and says it's Texas so in all decency he
should refrain and recuse himself from comment. Yet Matthew Houghton
has never been a fan, has he? No this Texas
says Paul says. Luxon's a terrible leader. It's a bit
harder running a bankrupt country than a government backed monopoly airline.
It's not all smiles and giggles. You actually have to
make some tough decisions. So it's all over the spectrum there.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, keep those texts coming through a nine to nine
to two.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Hey Matt and Tayler, how pray tell me you can
dare to repeat what Andrea Advance writes.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Andrea Advance, Andrea Young, Andrea Young, Yeah, Andrew Van's very different,
very different. Andrea Advance was the one with the sea word.
We all remember those those days. Yes, Andrea Young, it
works for the Herald. I think she is well recognized
as a respected journalist.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
These two biased journos, it's just stirring. What does she know?
Ask Chris Bishop directly. Chris Bishop has been asked this
before today and he always has the same answer. Nope,
he is not interested, and he's very happy with lux
and his PM. So why is Vance? Once again, it's
not Advance making a story out of nothing. Because she
is just stirring. Is this this text? Yeah, I mean,

(08:53):
I don't know if Andrea Varants has come out, but
I'm pretty sure that you're talking about a different journalist.
But yeah, I mean the text is firing up with
people saying that the media is incredibly biased and as
soon as the coalition government went in, they decided to
do everything they can to get their buddies at Labor
re elected.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Do you agree love to hear from you? Oh, eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty Is this just media
byes or is there something to it? And follow up
question if he wants to get rolled or replaced, who
should step up to be the leader of the National Party.
It is a quarter past one back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
It'd be it is seventeen past one.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Tyler Adams, my good friends.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, there's there's been a mess of cockers Andrea Young, Yeah,
massive cockup. So they said there's a problem when someone
starts throwing out speculation about Andre Advance, you can you
confuse me? And I'm confused at the best of times.
So Audrey Young and Andrea Vance and two different people.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
And there's then and I'm sure there is and Andrea Young,
but we're not talking about her. No, no, yeah, no,
it is it is Audrey Young that has written this
article in The Hero.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Great writer, Audrey great writer, respected journalist Andre Advance. Wow,
jury's out on that one.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, some suggestions for lux and stop wearing boring blue suits,
get a looser fit. Suggest his house colleagues, including female,
do the same, stop polishing his shiny head present future visions,
and stop innestly repeating it was all labor's fault. Well,
they've only been in for two years, so what the
people did for the previous six years is pertinent to

(10:33):
what's happening now. I would say, we know that. Keep
reminding people that Hipkins was Minister of Education Health, two
of the biggest balls up in history. Oh okay, say,
but do keep reminding people that Hipkins was the Minister
of Education two of the biggest balls up in history.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ted just on the stop.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Stop so this Texas stopped innestly repeating it was labor's fault,
but also mentioned that Hipkins was Minister of Education, two
of the biggest balls up in history.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, does he really polish his head? I don't know,
it's that shiny? I mean, clearly it's bored. You can't
do it. Are we have ball this nation? It sounds
like it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Who cares if someone hasn't got here or not?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
And what do you do? I mean, is it is
it fashionable to polish your head if.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
You've Some of my best friends are ball.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, and it is a nice suit, I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I think Lee Hart, Yeah, Barry Soper, Yeah, Robin welcome
the show.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Thank you and your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
My thoughts are that Actually, I think Christopher Luxan is
perfect for the physician. I think that Matthew Heuton, well,
the most famous thing he ever did was role our
last one. I'm Simon Bridges and not what happened then?
Then he's about to try the same now and Heather

(11:43):
Diprissy Allen's not much business. She did exactly the same
with it pen for Simon Bridges, and it's just as
if it all happening again.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Tell you what, Robinson Bridges is living his best life.
At the moment I saw at Metallica, he was in
the snake pit, right up the front, throwing the goats up.
He's quite a good drummer, Simon Bridges, and he was
absolutely loving Metallica. But that's a side topic, I know.

Speaker 8 (12:05):
And he's a brilliant man and he was. He was
really really good at what he did, but we lost
when he went. I mean, you know, we seem to
pick on somebody. For me, what I like about Christopher
Luxem is that he doesn't need to be the leader
and actually hold everything. He gives everybody is Erica Stamford.

(12:29):
He gives me a wide lead or something or other
else like that, so he actually allows people to do
what they really can do. So he doesn't actually mind
having bright people around him rather than being the brightest
of the bright.

Speaker 9 (12:42):
And I like that.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
I also would hate christ Bership because I think christ
Bership comes from Christchurch. He has that I've lived in
christ Church.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Hang on, I think Bishop is a Valentinian, just you know,
not castuspusions on my beloved Contabrians. He's from Wellington.

Speaker 8 (13:00):
Well I've got it wrong, but maybe it's just the
same people in Wellington have no idea what it's like
living in Auckland and what he proposes for Auckland. As
a disaster.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Really, did you just turn left or right? Robin? Did
you just turn left or right on your car?

Speaker 8 (13:22):
I turned right?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Ah, yeah, good, So you're turning the way that your
political leanings are, Robin. Is that with every.

Speaker 10 (13:29):
Correct Yes, yes I would.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
So do you think there is something in there that
that that that Auckland is Auckland represented in government? Government enough?
That's an interesting point.

Speaker 8 (13:44):
Well, Christopher Luxe and is Auckland. So if we look
at the pandemic, which I still I'm so angry about
of what the government did to Auckland, and it's so
wonder that Auckland is failing now because we closed down
and saved the rest of the country.

Speaker 10 (14:01):
For so long.

Speaker 8 (14:02):
You know, everything is failing in Auckland because of what
what Labour did.

Speaker 10 (14:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Maybe you look at John Key, and John Key I
think he was he was pretty Auckland by the time
he became Prime Minister, but you know he was a
South Island boy. So is it really where they come from.
It's just making sure that their strategy is right.

Speaker 8 (14:19):
Well, to be fair, Crystal, well, maybe I should say
it has nothing to do with christ Bishop where he
comes Tolop and that's probably a better way of pulling it,
isn't it. I just don't like his absolutely bold approaches.
So in Auckland he wants high rise houses all along
the main roads. So if we look at Takapuna, we've

(14:42):
got Lake Road and all the high rise houses are
going up because he've got a busway and we've got
other things here. But if you now want to go
from Takapuna to Devon, daughter can take you one hour
because now where the roads can go, and they're putting
so many high risisms. Soon we're not going to be
able to get over the Harbour Bridge because there's going

(15:03):
to be so much traffic there because we're doing things
on main roade. So once again we need some representation
from Auckland because we actually provide most of the taxes
for New Zealand. And whether people like us or not,
we kept them safe during COVID And so yeah, I
advad Chrystopher Luxem all the way and I say, thank

(15:24):
goodness we have a prime minister that can actually hold
a coalition government that's very difficult together, can actually can
allow strong people to work with them and not need
to be the boss of everything. And we were used
to being somebody being the boss of everything.

Speaker 10 (15:44):
Yeah, that's not who he is and.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
That's what I like.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh, good on you, Robin. Thank you for your core.
Appreciate that this Texas is funny. You people talking about
media bias, you are media biased. You should listen to
Hosking every morning for bias. That's from John. I do
listen to Hosking most morning. See big fan.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah it's good Joe. Yeah, very very well paced. He's
a good interviewer.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
He's using us for this badcast.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, quite funny man. Yeah, drives a nice car tooo.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Oh boy, does he drive a nice car?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Dallas.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Always good to hear your opinion on these kind of things.

Speaker 11 (16:16):
Yeah, I'd like to hear yours too on whether they
should roll luck because you guys are the experts. Hey Tyler,
thanks for earning your barbecue to your listeners. That's a
real Christmas.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
No worries, mate, you know, like if if there's a
funny taste to the meat, you know, it's not my
fault that it's Matt's barbecue. So I'm just the user.
But we'll get the bar we'll get the barbie crank
and at seven pm, mate, so I'll see you. Just
shortly after that we'll.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Put out to all our listeners. Yeah, and you'll be
first on the list. Dallas.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, bring your own alcohol though, mate, should we bring anything, Tyler?
Just your own boost, just whatever tip of choice, and
actually no, something for the barbecue would be nice. And
I don't think anyone's bringing bread, so if you can
bring some bread rolls.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
You know one of those people, Dallas that brings along
sizzlers and then takes the lamb chops off. Are you
after Park?

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, don't do that. Could you get kicked down Dallis?

Speaker 11 (17:12):
But yeah, yeah in a half dozen serios. Yeah, yeah,
now Luxon. No, I don't think they will wrong roll him,
or I don't think I should either. I'll give you
two reasons. From the national point of view, why would
you take that risk? I mean Chris Busship. Yeah, he

(17:35):
might be really popular according not according to that last caller,
but he might. He might be a real hit. But
I'm not sure they want to take that risk. And
it's not really in their DNA the National Party to
be taking risks, so I don't think they will. And
it's from the labor point of view as well, they
probably want to keep luxon there if he's polling badly.

(17:57):
So there's two reasons they probably won't or shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
The I mean, it's an interesting question stability, isn't it,
Because now I think forever people are going to think
about the distin are doing situation where you know, labor
made a change just out from the twenty seventeen election
and there was a sudden explosion in the polls and
there were selfies everywhere and a party that was dead

(18:25):
and gone who did still go on to lose the election,
but there was a lot of interest and then you know,
of course we will know the story when he came
to the rescue for them. So there is two sides
of it, isn't there, Dallas. There's the stability side and
there appearing to be solid, and then there's also the
X factor side. You know, they just just see if
we can throw some fuel on the barbie as it were.

Speaker 11 (18:50):
Yeah, what do you guys think? Do you think they're
rolling or should roll in.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Or well, I don't know. I reckon, I reckon what
we'll do this our Dallas as will will allow other
people to you know, to ear their views on it,
and then maybe at the end we'll we'll just deliver
a little bit of an opinion right at the end.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Then at yep, you just keep listening, Dallas. Anytime in
the next couple of months, you just stay tuned. Well,
well we will. We'll offer a week something maybe at
the end. But interesting from you, Dallas. So you say
luction should stay, it would be problematic and two disruptive
and they actually have something to lose.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
The gamble gamble, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Or I may, thank you very much. We'll see at
the barbecue at seven pm. And just bring some good sauces.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
No check in saucage either, because nobody they take too
long to cook.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Some buttered prawns. The pre buttered prawns would be good.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, perfect, all right, Dallas, we'll get you soon. One
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you want to see the tags nine two, ninet
two plenty coming through. We'll get to a few of
those very shortly. Twenty eight past one.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking
breakfast and you see it.

Speaker 12 (20:00):
The first lined up to tell the world they will
campaign on flipping the new regulatory standards law Winston Peters
as well as here's my concern, most of the mediate
are whittingly pencil of excitement over the fact that your
coalition's falling apart.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You don't want that that you well, of course not.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean I made the point the number one responsibility
with God a mate of our difference, is to provide
a stable government to the next election. That master that
that's our responsibility. But these genis are celebrating. It's like saying,
and I'm just discussed by the fact that when I
first came to Poland, people in the Express Gallery has
been around fifteen twenty years at the top of the class.
Now you've got a hold of journeys that don't want Yesterday.

Speaker 12 (20:34):
Look like back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking
Breakfast with the Defendant News talk.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Z B very good afternoons. You so we are talking
about speculation. There is growing calls to roll Christopher Luxen
as the head of the National Party. Do you think
this is just a media beat up BS or do
you think that's got some truth in it? O one
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
The media has always been biased and have attacked Luxe
and from the get go. It would be hard to
find anyone from New Zealand media that supports the National Coalition.
If Labor gets in, there will be more kiwi's deserting
New Zealand says this text gentlemen, you guys are referring
to an article written by Matthew Houghton, who was a
key driver and supporter of the Todd Muller barcle. National

(21:16):
has been a hen of minute. Also approached them about
being a List MP and they rejected him, hence his
attacks regards Jerry.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, I think he's got a bone to pick from
the National Party and it was true he was a
big part of the Todd Muller debarcle.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
He does seem to be throwing a lot of rocks
at what was his side.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, yeah, keep those teachs coming through on nine to two.
Nine to two, we've got the headlines hot on our tail,
and very shortly we will be speaking to our senior
political correspondent, Barry Soper, who is hearing a lot of
things coming out of Parliament, so we'll get his thoughts
on this very soon. But taking your calls as well.
Our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
headlines coming next to his twenty eight to two.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
The sexta says Luxon is the best prime minister we
have ever had. Wow been cal There.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
You go.

Speaker 13 (22:07):
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Speaker 3 (23:31):
Thank you very much, Judy so As. We've been discussing
these grow speculation Christoph Laxons at risk of being rolled
ahead of next year's election, with Chris Bishop being talented
as a potential replacement. To discuss more. Senior political correspondent
Barry Soapa is in studio. Good to see Barry, Good
afternoon guys.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Now, Barry, is this a real thing or just journalists
needing something to write about in their columns like ninety
cent of the test as are suggesting.

Speaker 14 (23:52):
Yeah, well, you know that's true that sometimes things are
floated like this and there's no truth to them at all.
But look, for several weeks now, I've been talking to
people within the National Party and outside it, and certainly
is rumblings. And when you consider that this government of
forty eight MPs had twenty new MPs come at the

(24:16):
last election, and when they see the polling the way
it is, of course they get the Frighteners because I
think come election day that polling holds up, then will
be out of a job.

Speaker 15 (24:26):
So it's easy to get talk.

Speaker 14 (24:29):
It's serious. I've talked to some very senior people in
the National Party, but look, it's one of those things
that when a leader does poll badly, there is a
lot of mumbling goes on, and I, for the National
Party's sake, hope that's all it is. Because I think
if they go now and change the leader from Chris Luxen,

(24:50):
they'll have no well not no show, but they'll have
a very low show of getting back next year when
you consider the alternative the Labor Party, the Greens with
the rolling over contracts entered into in the mining area,
the Green saying roll over. But of course they may
not be able to do that once they get into government.

(25:12):
And then you've got the party maldi well, nowhere near
government at the moment and unlikely to be so for
some time. So if there's ever a time that the
National Party should be sticking together and presenting a united face,
it's now.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, yeah, Further to that, you'd have to say that
Luxon has done a good job of bringing the National
Party together. I mean there are a much more disciplined
lot than they were before he came in and at
least internally took control exactly.

Speaker 14 (25:43):
Well, you remember, you know, Simon Bridges, Todd Muller, Judith Collins,
you know, the party locked, just disunited, and any party
going into an election that looks like that very rarely
has the public's confidence. And a number of people, when
I've been talking about this to them, have said to me, well,

(26:05):
remember what happened to the coalition when Jenny Shipley rolled
Jim Bulger. Well, Jenny Shipley. Of course they had the
major falling out with Winston Peters and Winston left, but
they the type five became loose heads and you know,
formed their own party and stuck to the coalition.

Speaker 15 (26:23):
Well, it was an absolute dog's breakfast.

Speaker 14 (26:26):
And that's that's likely to happen if anything happens to
the leadership in the National Party.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Now, all this talk, and we know it's speculation, but
this talk of Chris Bishop being a potential is he
the great hope of the National Party? I don't see it.
I just don't get what people see in the sky
as being a game changer.

Speaker 15 (26:42):
Well, no he's not.

Speaker 14 (26:43):
He's you'll have noticed though, he's been very prominent lately,
and you know that's why Labor has pointed the finger
at him and says and that's why they tried to
do this number on him with the bike bridge in
his Hut South electorate. But you know that to me
fell short of anything that was anything like a smoking gun.

(27:04):
That Look, Chris Bishop, he's you know, he's a campaigner.
He understands politics pretty well. I knew his old man
very well, John Bishop, the late John Bishop. He died
earlier this year, and he was the political editor at
TV and Z. So I've known Chris since he was
a boy, as I do now most privatists, which a
bit of a worry. But no, look, I don't think

(27:28):
he's the knight and shining armor this man. If national
is to change, I don't think they will change, and
I hope for their sake.

Speaker 15 (27:38):
And I've got no skin on the game here. I
couldn't care less.

Speaker 14 (27:41):
Even though Heathery called me a cheerleader for Chris luxon yesterday.
You know, I mean, you know, politics is politics, when
the word gets around and it's like I said at
the beginning, outside the National Party, and I was told
from a very reliable source at the end of New
Zealand do at Parliament the other night, which is a
great do. I've been at most of them all. The

(28:04):
talk there in the business with business people was it,
how long's Luxon got? Will he last until the next election? Well,
I would say, look, if the National Party is as
wise as it tells us it is, then I would
think they would do better to stick with Chris Luxen.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
But if Labor attacking Chris Bishop because they've heard rumors
that he might be trying to roll Luxon, does that
mean that Labour would rather go up against Luxon than Bishop.

Speaker 14 (28:34):
Well, it'd be two hut boys, wouldn't it going up
against each other, Chippy and Bishop both from the hut.
But look, I think certainly the Labor Party knows at
the moment that them regaining the Treasury benches after three
years out of offers in their way electoral cycles go

(28:55):
in this country, that's a very rare event. I mean
the last government went up to two terms.

Speaker 15 (29:01):
Well, other than.

Speaker 14 (29:02):
The Labor coalition before that, you go back a long
way until if you see a split like that. So
I think, look the Labor Party, they know they're up
against the wall at the moment, and any weakness that
it can point to in the National Party, they'll have

(29:24):
a field.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Dat Is it a bit amateurish to be spooked? Have
the horses spooped? With this polling number of numbers this
far out from the election? I mean, is there a
point to make that anyone who gets pulled this far
out they might be upset with the government and the coalition,
but that's not the way they're going to vote come
October next year.

Speaker 16 (29:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (29:40):
Well, the difficulty is really Tyler, is that, you know,
when you've got a government like this one coming in
and opening the box and realizing just how bad the
situation was, although they.

Speaker 15 (29:51):
Knew that when they were coming in.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
When you look at the debt, the debt levels.

Speaker 14 (29:56):
Ten billion a year on interest that this country's paying,
you know you've got a big oil tanker to turn around.

Speaker 15 (30:04):
And that doesn't happen just in a few years.

Speaker 14 (30:07):
I think, you know, I hate to use the expression
because everybody does, but green shoots. I think, you know,
there are positive signs. I think now going into next
year that indeed the economy will be in much better shape.
And of course the whole game then changes, and politics
is about the mood of the country, and if you've

(30:28):
got a better mood out there, the likelihood of you
winning if you're an incumbent government is greater.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, Unfortunately, there's really wingy mood out there in New Zealand,
winey soft mood out there. So finally, Barry Sober sent
thanks so much for coming in on the show. Do
you believe Chris Bishop is behind any any of this?
Do you think he's Do you think he's having meetings?
Do you believe in when he says he's not. I mean,
politicians will always say that's a movie. Like he said, yeah,

(30:58):
I'm trying to roll, but I can.

Speaker 15 (31:02):
Tell you a story about one rolling that.

Speaker 14 (31:05):
And it was like talking like this was poor old
billing ch after he crashed the National Party in two
thousand and two, and Don Bresh was around, and I
knew that a caucus push would be on and I
knew that it was coming up that Tuesday, And on
Tuesday morning I was on on air here with Paul Holmes,

(31:25):
and Holmes he said to me at the end of
our interview. He said, so is he a dead man walking?
And I said, no, more like a twitching corpse. Well,
within minutes my phone at home when it was Bill
English on the phone bollocking me, saying, you don't know
what you're talking about. Well, the thing is, I said
to him, Bill, I do know what I'm talking about.
You haven't got the numbers. You're going to be rolled today.

(31:47):
And this is what happens in leadership. If you're the
leader of Chris Luxon goes out and talks to his
caucus one by one, of course they'll all say they'll
vote for him because they're worried about their own butt.
If further down the track he's doling out cabinet positions
and what have you. So the leader is always going
to be misinformed when it comes to votes. But look,
I don't think personally they've got the numbers, and I

(32:11):
don't think that Chris Luckson will be rolled.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, he just just I said, the final question. But
just one more, one more, just one, you're a politician,
just one more.

Speaker 11 (32:21):
So.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Christopher Luxon is very good one on one. He's great
when he's when he's overseas, he's meeting leaders, he's fantastic.
If you interview him. After the interview, he's If he's
in a room, he'll talk to everyone in the room,
and and he's very good. Why do you think that
that Christopher Luxon. Isn't that that people like one on
one not being liked in the mass in terms of

(32:45):
intentions of polling.

Speaker 14 (32:46):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right about Chris Lucks And I
don't want to sound like his cheerleader, but he is.
When you see him out in the public meeting the public,
he's very, very good. And I think he's got the potential.
Don't think he's only been in politics four years. He's
got the potential of being a very good prime minister
for New Zealand. And I think the National Party should

(33:08):
realize that this man knows all the answers. He in
fact probably over talks an issue and that maybe gets
him into some trouble. But no, I think you know,
he's generally not favored in the public arena because simply

(33:29):
the medicine that they haven't been able to dish out
in the past two years hasn't arrived yet. But lot
the slow boat from China's on the way.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
So yeah, you had nicely said, it's a fascinating game politics,
isn't it bad? He's always good to see you, mate,
Thanks very much for coming in. That has Senior political
correspondent Barry Soper. We are taking your thoughts on this.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
It's thirteen to two.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used
talks that'd be there's.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Eleven to two. Christophlaxon get rolled as national leader? Is
it just a media b top GW? How are you?

Speaker 12 (34:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (34:15):
Good mate?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yourself very well? What do you reckon?

Speaker 17 (34:19):
To be honest, mate, I think he's going to stick around.
I have recently returned from thirteen years living in the
in the States, but before I left, I was heavily
involved with the Green Party and also labor worked with
Janet fit Simon's on her campaign, and to be honest,

(34:39):
I'm quite disgusted looking at the politics within New Zealand
because there seems to be since COVID essentially a copycat
with a lot of politicians to.

Speaker 18 (34:53):
Copy, the decisiveness in there and the you know, attacking
other politicians. You know, we elected them to represent us,
not to attack each other. And we've got whinstant Peters,
who the last two election cycles has held the country

(35:13):
at ransom both times. Not of the country. He's going
online after our Prime Minister for all of New Zealanders
and says, look, we have secured a trade deal, we
have done this, when Winston Peters jumped straight after that,
going well, actually I did this and I did that

(35:36):
instead of we did this, and I'm just when I
least New Zealand, it was, you know, there was that
sense of you know what, you guys run it.

Speaker 10 (35:47):
We've elected you to run it.

Speaker 18 (35:49):
We may not be happy with some of those things,
but then when the next election cycle comes around, if
we're not happy about it, we will vote for somebody else.
And I just it just drives me up the wall
to see politicians, you know, attacking each other and not
remembering that they're there to serve us, not to attack

(36:09):
each other, and they should be coming up with solutions.
And I again, I'm a traditional Green Party labor guy,
but I actually am opening a business right now knowing
that in my mind, looking at the economy, Wigan's the
whole of the economy is going to see a boost
next year because of policies, But none of that good

(36:33):
work that's being done is going to be recognized if
all we're focused on is name calling and attacking policies
that were done during COVID. You know, no matter what
government you're in, no matter what country you're in, nobody
knew what we were getting into with COVID.

Speaker 17 (36:49):
Every government had to take drastic action.

Speaker 18 (36:52):
You know, Trump locked down the USA, but everyone but
for some reason that's now being put on Biden. You know,
there's every country in the world had to react in
a way to protect their citizens.

Speaker 10 (37:05):
And I heard.

Speaker 18 (37:06):
You know, one of the preview callers was talking about, well,
look at how much debt we're in now because of labor.

Speaker 17 (37:12):
National you know took that on.

Speaker 18 (37:14):
But that debt wasn't just accumulated during the labor period
that they were in when jin Cinder was and that
dead has been accumulating for years.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Well, thank you so much for your col gw Do
you agree with them? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
nine two nine Tower's the text, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
A lot, and that it is seven to two back
in a month.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty, It's Matt Heath and Tyler
Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
News Talks B, News TALKSB. It is six to two
Holy botechs coming through.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
The sticks, said Quinn needs to wake up and face
the facts. We are and we'll still be paying for
the mess labor and just Sinda Adern government has left
us talked to all the families that lost their businesses
during that time because of her and Labour's poor decisions.
The Stix says, hey, guys, Jacinda got all the good
noise from the media for years. No surprises that they
now attack Luxen. The stixys luck and inherited an absolute

(38:10):
economic and social disaster from durn hipkins Wood and Robinson
that these two texts interesting. You two media wankers are
doing everything you can to undermine Luxon like all the
rest of the media. It's disgusting. Whereas this text, it
says the real cheerleaders for Luxe and aren't Barry Soper
the you two afternoon hosts. I saw you talking to

(38:30):
Luxeon at the rugby mat. You are compromised It's it
interesting that two people could listen to the exact same
show and have exactly one, one hundred and eighty degree
opinions of what we've said.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, that is news TALGSZB right now. But we're going
to carry this on because so many people will have
a chat about it. If you're hanging on the phone lines,
thank you very much. We will get to you very shortly.
But I w one hundred and eighteen eighty to number.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams
Afternoons News Dog zib.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Get Adi. You welcome back into the show seven past two.
So we're going to carry on this discussion we've been
having around media speculation over the face of Christopher Luxan
as Prime minister.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
That's one of it's interesting what people care about and
out there and the listenership on nine two nine two
always interests me. What is the prescient issue for individual listeners? Yeah,
it's interesting that this person here is Tick said why
can't you guys say two two not T two two?
Did you never learn grammar?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
What the hell is tea two too?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Who said T two too?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I don't even know what they're referring to T two too.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Can you say two to two not T two two?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Was that like ten to two?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:41):
I don't even know what you're referring to. What rama Nazi?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
What do you care exactly?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Oh mean, there's got nothing to do, whereas rolling Christopher
Luxen or media bs.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's just I just kind of imagine caring about something
the crazies like that's not grammar.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, that's just I mean, you started drinking way too early.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Can you imagine just sitting at home and you hear
someone slightly stumble on their words saying the time, and
so you get out your phone and you piece together
a nonsensical text that starts with a it doesn't start
with a capital and then hassle someone for grammar. So
if you got a text in and complain about grammar,

(40:22):
then you've got to get.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Your grammar right exactly. You've got to nail that part
or as you lose all credible.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It was your texter, I'd get up off your seat.
I'd get off your high horse and get off your seat.
Go and look in the mirror and ask yourself, why
did I care that? Tyler Adams slightly muffed the words
that he was trying to say when he was trying
to give you the time.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
That's wild speculation. We don't know who did it, not
even been Jodie, maybe it was Barry.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
You're the only one that does the type.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
The type.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
It's beyond my skill level to read the type well
and according to the sticks, to be on yours as well.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Anyway, anyway, what are you're talking about? We are talking
about Christopher lux and apparently this speculation within media circles
that Chris Bishop is eyeing up replacing him before the
next election. So the question put to you is do
you believe it? Do you think it is all just
media bs? How do you think Christopher Luxon is going?
And if you do believe it's true, who realistically could
take his place? So eight one hundred and eighty ten

(41:19):
eighty is that number to call if you text here, Hey,
Matt and Tyler. Luxon is awesome. He's turning this economy around.
He's fostered a talented caucus with some of the best
ministers we've had in years. He's great on the campaign
trail and has been excellent for New Zealand overseas, says Richard.
This text of Russell says, you two are like a
northeasterly wind. You keep blowing until it rains. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I'm not going to make a joke. I was going
to make that. Leave Luxon alone. You should be grateful
after what ar durn and Coe got us into, signed Russell. Yeah,
I mean, okay, we're just actually sharing other people's opinions,
primarily here. Yeah, but you know, I'm happy to be called.
Was it the northeasterly wind. Yeah, keep blowing until it rains.
I'm afraid lux and his toast. Even Heather admits that

(42:06):
poor old Hosking and it's like wife will be moving
to Australia. Love Lindy.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Well, we'll pass it on to Mike for you. I
don't know if you're moving to Aussie.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
But Paul says the poles have killed Luxon. My gym
bag could pole higher than Chippy, so sadly Luxon has
to go too risky. Winston has helped with his silly
MMP posturing games. Yeah, I'd love to see this jim Bag. Yeah,
he doesn't resonate with the public because he hasn't and
doesn't read the room of the country. He's so different
and speaks a language full of figures and slogans too

(42:36):
American for me.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
It's a fair point. And that is a lot of
criticism directed towards Christopher Luckxen. But in a world of
sound bites and lack of attention span, I don't like that.
I want to hear nw wants in the depth of
a discussion. And as you know, you've said, and you've
had a few dealings with Christopher lux And face to face,
a very different man to what you see on Telly.
And that's what frustrates me with the world today that

(42:58):
you just want to WE SoundBite or a WE snippet
and you judge someone based on that. No, you need
indepth discussions.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You need to well to be fair, Most of my
in depth discussions with Christopher Luxan have been about cricket.
He's a massive cricket fan, good topic and he knows
that I commentate cricket, so you know, cricket tragics gravitate
towards each other to talk cricket.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
He needs to talk more cricket, is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Maybe no one is going to catch Christopher Luxeon out
on cricket was strength, There's no gotcha question from any
gotcha journalist that's going to catch Christopher Luxeon out on cricket.
Oh my god, says the sector. By bring up this
topic of lux and being rolled, you are joining the
rest of the so called gyurnist journalist. Shame on you. Grant, Well,
the the things Grant we're saying. You know you can

(43:41):
answer the question. Ask the question is is this just
a media beat up? That's how we started it.

Speaker 16 (43:46):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Grant clearly thinks it is.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, yeah, good on you. So what do you call it?
A sort of an inception media moment where members of
the media ask if the media, yeah, are just beating
something up?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Exactly if if you think it is bullshit? Love to
hear from you, get a Maverick. How are you mate?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (44:03):
Bud? I'm also enjoying your program. God, you guys are.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Good, mate. So yeah, you're great, You're great.

Speaker 10 (44:11):
No, No, I'm not. I'm just an average Westy. Matt
my book to you at last, did you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Where did you send it to? You send it to
Newstalk Matt Heath care of News Talks, he'd ben.

Speaker 10 (44:28):
Yeah or Graham Street. But cool, I forgot to pay
the courier fee paid to the bag and popped it
and the day later forgetting to pay the courier fee.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
It is now does that mean I think that means
it has to pay for it? Doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Is it like a Collick call. If it arrives and
someone needs to pay for it, I'll pay for it. Meverick.

Speaker 10 (44:50):
Oh yeah, probably be said back. But yeah, my apologies.
But just let me know if it doesn't arrive in
the next week or so and I'll send you another one.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 10 (45:00):
Question now it was lux Yes, he worked for you
in New Zealand, as you know, top Echelon and the
Fifth Tower or whatever. And I've got a good mate
who's been working for in New Zealand now for forty
five years as a chief steward, and he told me

(45:20):
some stories that you would not believe. Out Luxem. He
doesn't care about people. Unfortunately. He's a bloody good businessman,
but he's not a people person and he comes across
as non genuine to me and to many of my friends.
He's and he's got no man, no presence, and he
talks way too fast.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Do you support his policies? If you don't support his presentation.

Speaker 10 (45:49):
I certainly don't support his presentation. His policies are something
that we needed, most of them, not all of them.
But he's not he's not empathetic with the people at
the lower level. He's looking after his mates at the
higher level. And that's that's okay, but there's got to

(46:09):
be a balance, and it's not quite there in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
So some of the things that National have done, you know,
do you like what they've done around education?

Speaker 10 (46:21):
Absolutely one hundred bed.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
And do you I'm just trying to think of other
things that they've done. Do do do you like what
they've done in tax? Crime crime?

Speaker 10 (46:34):
Tax? Definitely not m we we're over tax for the
mex and they're taking more of us under different guises
every day and we can't afford it.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Just on the just on the question looking after people
at the bottom Everick, you know, it's it's when you
look at two sides of political ideology, you know, the
side of the left, I think, thinks that the government
has a responsibility to you know, mostly the government responsibility
to look after and make sure people at the bottom
are protected and have that safety net. National and the

(47:07):
right certainly has that as well. But it's this idea
of personal responsibility and I generally, you know, think that
people on the right side of politics, they do deeply
care about those at the bottom. But it's a different
way of pulling them back up their personal responsibility and
allowing them to get into employment and to push them
to be their best and to get that economy. Humming
is another way to do that. So it's not about,

(47:29):
you know, rubbishing poor people. It's different ideas on trying
to boost everybody up.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
So why did they abolish the Minister of Disability.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Well, they incorporated it. They just reincorporated it, so there
was no change in funding. They just moved it into
under the under the wider health portfolio, so it was
it was sort of they realized, they believed that that
they could spend less money on administration if it was
under existing administration. But there was no there was no

(48:01):
lowering the amount of money spent in that area.

Speaker 10 (48:04):
That's my whole point. They're all about money and not
about the people. And if you could blend the best
of national labor at a little pintu faction of Greens,
little Winston and take all their best policies, we would
have an awesome government that would rule us forever in
my opinion.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well, thank you so much, Maverick. I mean a grand coalition.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, wouldn't that be a surprise, And I wouldn't necessarily
be against that. I don't know if it ever happened.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
My interviewed Christopher Perpkins before the previous election. I said
to him, you know you're closer to National than you
are to the Greens. Why don't you make a coalition
with them?

Speaker 3 (48:44):
What do you say to that? I don't think, Yeah,
that sounds like a politician. Pete's how are you mate?

Speaker 6 (48:52):
You gentlemen? I reckon he's got them too being a job
what he's doing what the other previous gentleman just said.
I think he's just going to start thinking of the
people that are struggling to I think regarding what the
ands we all know it's all power bulls are going.
When does that stop? When is he going to take

(49:14):
troll on those people? They're all greedy shareholders, I call them,
but they don't mind me saying that. They're actually taking
the mickey out of the power company. They really are
the fleecing ass. It's about Tommy did something about them,
put him in their place. Can you prove what you're
spending on their mistructure? They just keep on putting the

(49:35):
power balls up and there's a lot of people are
struggling out there to pay for those basic items and
this has got to stop. He doesn't do nothing about that.
He just lets them keep on putting up the prices
when they like it, and how they like us?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Well, do you think? But the inflation was out of
control when labor left power, So inflation has come down
considerably under national and that helps people, doesn't it?

Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah? Certain ways, But then how are we going to
stop our power bulls from going up? You know? In
some ways, I I reckon whin he that's his idea.
We're probably never having putting any of the money for it.
I reckon as soon as we take control of those
power companies, there better because if we can produce cheaper
power and all that, we want industry to come here.

Speaker 18 (50:23):
Forget it.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
We know they don't come here. Power guests is soon
they are come.

Speaker 10 (50:28):
Here, do you think?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Do you think do you think the labor has some
blame in this for the guests?

Speaker 19 (50:33):
Man?

Speaker 6 (50:35):
Oh, totally, I'm not denying at all. Chris is doing
his space to try to get it back here. But
there must be something they can control by They said,
you listen to Rome and the other night. Last night
his powerables going up. They just put it up when
they shouldn't be able to put the power up when
they like they do need to be three or six
months it comes. I say, no, you put the power up.

(50:57):
You're not going to do it for at least another year.
That stops there, But they just do it. We just
accept it.

Speaker 16 (51:03):
It's not good enough.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Thank you, Pop, thank you Golf. Peter appreciate it. I mean,
there's no doubt that for a country to thrive and
for the economy to grow, you need cheap and really
available power.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Absolutely, and whoever's in power has to work very very
hard to make that happen. But there are things that
have happened that have made that very difficult for the
government to turn it around. Hey, guys, that guy I
think he was talking about the text the caller before Peter,
that guy is completely wrong about lux and he is
empathetic and cares for the battler's I have seen it firsthand. Okay,

(51:39):
Dave textter and tell us the story of how you've
seen it. Firsthand.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, bit more context, but oh, eight one hundred eighty
ten eighty is that number to call? Nineteen past two?
But do you think the speculation over Chris Luxe and
remaining leader of the National Party is media bs or
has it got some truth to it?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Back in a month your home of afternoon talk mad
he than Tyler Adams afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten
eighty us talk, sa'd.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Be afternoon twenty two past two are a bit late,
but a few text well hundreds of texts have come through.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, that's an avalunch. New Zealanders say thank Heaven for
Luxe and he's doing a great job, says this text.
They've got a great team assembled. It's a huge task
those labor criminals left for them. Roll the flipping media
and their hooton types. We don't need a song and
dance sausage roll eating twit. We need a doer, not
a bullshitter, a layoff luxant, passion, love it and this one.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
If we can't figure out how to hardness that hot
ear that's coming out of the beehive, we are going
to be stuffed in this country. Politics isn't a mess.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
My problem with National is their suggestion of congestion charges.
It'll push families over the edge. Luxon and Co. Have
no idea, just like paying the powerball, Bishop says, Oh
the irony snap election soon, sheers Nikki oh Man, I'm
so anti congestion charges. Don't get me started on the
evil of congestion charges. Just once again. Every solution is
to cock the same productive people in the nuts fires

(53:04):
you up over again, over and over again. The fact
that anyone would suggest congestion charges, that's a topic for
another day.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, the bell has passed and it may be coming in.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Do not get me started on producing charges that is
That is evil.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Fuires a lot of people upright. It is twenty three
past two. When we come back, we have a chat
with Kate. She's a national member, but she is unhappy,
so we'll talk to her next.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
It is twenty six past two, Kate, So you're a
National Party member? Is that correct?

Speaker 10 (53:40):
That's correct?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yes, But you're unhappy with Luxel.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
Yeah, I'm very unhappy with them, very unhappy for quite
a few reasons and I'm sure you done have enough
time to listen to all of that. But can I
just say one thing that someone mentioned before about being
happy about being ruled by by the government. We're not
ruled by them. They we pay their wages. They're supposed

(54:05):
to do what we pay them to do. I'll leave
that there. But I've just read an article and here
it goes. The government has just begun approving significant pay
increases for members of Crown boards, in several cases, roughly
doubling their compensation after introducing a new set of seeds. Now,

(54:26):
the thing is, people does no matter what you say,
but with their pocket Now if they here's this man,
who's okay this huge increase for Crown board members, and
yet people are struggling to pay the power bills, not
only their power bills, but to feed themselves. Heaven helped
those people with kids. God knows how they manage. Because

(54:49):
I'm retired and I only just hang in there, and
I am not happy.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
But would you would you admit that that inflation is
a lot better than it has been, and that inflation
has come down a long way. I mean, inflation is
always going to go up. You cannot have economy or
inflation isn't going up, there would be an absolute disaster,
right obviously, but inflation, that's what inflation is inflates, right,

(55:16):
But the rate is much lower than it was when
when National came in.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
You know, it's it's but it's not going to improve.
I'll just give you a quick example here in Hamilton.
The Council, who are ruled basically by the World Economic
Orum and the UN Agenda twenty thirty. They are going
to separate water charges from great charges and they're going

(55:45):
to start charging per lisa like they do in Auckland
now with water care. So there's another thing that people
are going to have to pay for. And of course
you've got to have water. And all of these things
are building up and building up, and so many people
don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Is that National's fault. That sounds like a council It is.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
Yes, it is because they are acalyzed of the World
Economic Forum and the United Nations Agenda twenty thirty, which
is behind all of this. Because if you look at
what's happening around all the Commonwealth countries exactly the same
thing that's happening, just like it did with COVID. They're
all saying the same reason words, promising this, promising that,
and coming up with nothing and just appalling, appalling. I'm

(56:31):
just I can't express how angry I am with what's
going on with the National Party.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
So are you? Are you leaning towards X now O? Kate?

Speaker 10 (56:44):
Not so much?

Speaker 9 (56:44):
H No. I thinks Winnie is saying all the right
things right now.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Okay, I'm going back to the board member thing. Do
you do you give any weight to the argument that
if you want to have the best people on these
ground boards, then you have to pay or else you
don't get the best people and you get worse decisions
and more hardship for people.

Speaker 9 (57:07):
It sounds good, but this is not the time to
do and everybody is hurting.

Speaker 19 (57:12):
You.

Speaker 9 (57:12):
Look at all those businesses have closed down because they
can't afford the power.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
But what would you want to see happen?

Speaker 7 (57:19):
Kate?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
I mean, do you buy the arguments that when things
have gone as wrong as they have in recent years,
it takes a long time to turn those things around.
Those things do not happen in the space of six
months or even a year, And that the government and
coalition is asking for patients. What would you think would
make a tangible difference right now, that's not going to

(57:40):
further screw the economy.

Speaker 9 (57:42):
Okay, what you say is correct, but remember this, if
they don't start showing empathy for the people that are
really really hurting with the cost of living, and he's
not showing any empathy whatsoever. And when he does something
like this double the clown board's income by roughly doubles,

(58:02):
that's not showing empathy for the people that are struggling.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
So how would he show empathy? How would you like
to see him show hipathy? You want him to use
more words to more words to show empathy, because he
would say that he's trying to sort out the economy.
And when you sort out the economy, then everything is
better for everyone. And if you don't make the hard
decisions to sort out the economy, then things just continue
to get worse and worse. And when things get worse,
it's the people at their bottom that experience at the most.

Speaker 9 (58:30):
Yes, it's all weazel words, guys, it's just weasel words.
They need to use words that encompass the word empathy,
not like just send it it. But he needs to
stand up there and say, look, I know what's going on.
And he's not doing it.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I think he is. He does say that a lot.
He talks a lot about the hardship of people. But
does it matter? Do we need to live in a
world where politicians are style over substance? For example, Kate,
you know one thing that really infuriates me is after
a leader's debate when they immediately go to the analyst

(59:09):
panel and people analyze not what they've said, not a
list of what they've said, and debate them logically. They
talk about how they've said it, how the person's presented. Yes,
so aren't you saying that you want to hear words?
Don't you just want to go through and go through
each policy line by line and see if you agree

(59:30):
with it.

Speaker 9 (59:32):
I do go through gritline by line, and so much
of it is sheeted back to the World's Economic Forum
and the United Nations Gender twenty thirty. And until people
understand what's really going on, what's really really going on,
nothing's going to change.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Do you think that the governments? What about the coalition
government's moves on law and order and justice reform? So
you are you seeing anything positive in that?

Speaker 16 (59:56):
There are?

Speaker 10 (59:56):
The justice reform is just more ways of words what about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
What's happened in the schools that what they've done for
education does that float by at all.

Speaker 9 (01:00:05):
I'm happy about that, and I'm happy to have taken
the phones off kids during the day. That's a good
move and get them looking at what they need to
be looking at and not the screen time. I guess
that that's a good thing. And just some of the
changes they've made to the curriculum. I'm all behind, but

(01:00:25):
they stand up there, and they how they can stand
up there if they look on the face like their
angels when they're not their devils.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I think if you cool came right, thank you?

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Look, a lot of people we feel in the way
that Kate's feeling. But yeah, I mean, as you say,
with the presentation and having charisma or presenting some sort
of picture of hope, and that can be very successful
for a politician. But as we've no one, I mean,
there was one in the recent past. I don't need
to name her name, but look how they ended up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, and it's amazing how many of the texts that
are coming through are people saying that he doesn't present
very well. That's a weird thing to admit that you
care about the presentation that you want the restle deasil,
Yeah you want them, you know you want the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Monera Monrel you great, So yeah, all right, We're going
to carry this on after the headlines. Jody is standing by.
But oh, eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number to call? Do you still have faith in
Christopher Luxon? It is twenty sixty three.

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Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
News TALKZBB, it is twenty two to three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Your Resnex national caller is talking from a very ill
informed position. Luxon definitely has empathy, but he doesn't over
emote like Arderndad Grant says that let's go to Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I think chief scroll down a little bit. There's so
many teks that have come through.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Oh here we go, sorry, go to Peter get Peter
good A.

Speaker 10 (01:03:11):
Well, if you look at John k he came from America.
Jindra Durnam, he came from he went to America and
came back from America. And the same with this one.
And you wonder if there is a connection with the
appointment of him to be Chief Executive in in New

(01:03:33):
Zealand and then going for Prime minister. The agenda, you know,
since john Key introduced GST at no more Texas to
fifteen percent and all these words from anyone in Parliament
on we want to reduce your cost of living. Well,
unless you take away the fifteen percent GST that adds

(01:03:55):
to your cost of living everywhere and go to financial
transaction tax, nothing's going to change. So you might have
a new leader, but the color of the curtains might
change from one party to the next. I don't see
Bishop as anyone with a different policy. In fact, I
did not like him as an individual the way he

(01:04:16):
didn't really answer questions. Richard Preble I thought was one
of the better people for answering questions with detailed answers
to the question you asked. I find that National and
Actor hilarious with Winston, and people believe Winston's made in

(01:04:36):
speech would be up there with the Act policy of
free markets and all that sort of stuff. So to
say that they're in opposition to one another, they're just
collectively interested in power. And that's what happens. If you
don't get elected and politics are your career is over,
and it's all about being elected and perception not reality.

(01:04:57):
And if you look at reality that the nums of
votes who you know, seventy percent vote who they are
addicted to generally don't change, and thirty percent of the
swinging voters. And so the most hilarious thing with National
was that people say, oh, I didn't like the privatization

(01:05:18):
of the electricity companies, but I still voted for National,
Or you know, I didn't like the increase of GST
to fifteen percent, but I still voted for National. You know,
if you vote for a liar, or have a friend
who lies to you and you continually have them as
your friend, or vote for a party that continually misrepresents
things in your cost of living carries on going down,

(01:05:41):
don't blame them, and blame you and all the other
people who make the choice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Peter, is there a party that aligns most with you
that you think is the honest and if they could
get all enough power, because you know it does tend
to obviously go back and forth between Labor and National,
But is there one of the other parties that is
more aligned to your views?

Speaker 10 (01:06:03):
Well, the financial transaction tax and getting rid of GST
I don't see any any of the parties doing that.
That's greenac National Museum first and Labor. None of them
aligned with that. The if you look at the UK,
they have reform which hasn't got it in my you
any different policy really to the other parties. And the

(01:06:25):
Green Party is pulling really high over there. And you know,
so people are voting for new people, but they're not
voting in the opinion polls for a different policy. And
it's policy that determines what happens to your pocket. And
I ran for Auckland mayor and I talked about the
financial transaction tax on the Auckland Council website along with

(01:06:46):
other candidates who replied, but you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
What, can you explain to people what the financial transaction
tax is?

Speaker 10 (01:06:53):
Peter, Yes, instead of fifteen percent GST. And if you're
a business, you can claim fifteen percent of your power
bill or your export that you do. But if you
do a retail sell to someone who can't claim the
fifteen percentest that that stay. So the financial transaction tax,
find is a tax on the movement of money. So

(01:07:16):
in Australia, if you buy shares in certain states, for example,
they might all deposits into banks, they might charge your
point zero, zero, one or three of a percent for
putting money in, and they'd also charge you for a
property transaction too, I think in some states, I don't
know if it's nationwide. So it's a tax that you

(01:07:37):
can't get out of because if you move money, you
pay the tax, and it's a very small amount that
by the time everyone moves their money around the place
that's that collects an awful lot of tax. So the
people who, for example, at the moment, have a dairy
farm and they have a trust and foreign owner has

(01:07:59):
a trust in some tax free haven and lends the
money to the New Zealand dairy farm, claims back the
tax and that they don't make much money, that the
tax free haven, if you like, makes all the money
for lending the money for the New zealandery farm. That
they would actually be paying more tax because every time
they move money, they'll be paying tax every time they

(01:08:21):
buy and sell.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
But can you explain this to me? So I guess
the idea of GST is right to tax the final
consumer right. So if businesses couldn't claim GST back, then
wouldn't the same item be taxed multiple times with the supplier,
the manufacture of the retailer, and the customer would all
get tax. Retail get text GST, So when a business

(01:08:43):
claims back GST, that's just moving it through to yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
Yeah, well it's fifteen percent GESP and the transaction tax
is about point zero zero zero one, so it's not
very high. But the amount of times that money moves
that that's when the tax is collected. So to introduce
financial transaction tax and stop GST would probably take two

(01:09:08):
three three years of policy changing, you know, by this
slow implementation, and that's the way that people's cost of
living because the GST, you know, for a cost of living,
if you're on the bottom end you're paying the fifteen
percent GST, you're paying very high rents. And the people
who pay high rents have low savings, low investments generally speaking,

(01:09:30):
and the people who are able to own their house
mortgage free, that's better. So everyone's getting attacked with cost
of living on council rates and everything that the government
wanted to low electricity prices, they can put debt free
money into the electricity company that they own to reduce
transmissions because the upgrade for the transmission part. You know,

(01:09:56):
we need lots of money to do that with evs
and everything else like that, so there's no shortage and
the government can choose to create debt free money like
the first labor government did to fund state how or
forestry or rails or road. They don't do that. They
borrow money off the private banks, which create ninety eight
percent of the money from nowhere. And it's a bit

(01:10:18):
like playing a game of monopoly, where you go to
a local bank and you take a loan out from
the bank to have the notes available to play monopoly
at home. To have a country, you've got to have
your own money, your own military, and your own laws.
And if you don't have that, you're not a sovereign country.
And that's what happens in the euro where people don't
have their own currency anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Well, thank you so much for you call, Peter. It's
a bit more structural than the level of the chat
we're at, but it's always interesting to discuss that. But
Peter's general thing on the topic that we're having, which
is around Christopher Luxen and the rumors around Christopher Bishop
and whether it's just a media beat up and the
job that how good the job you think Christopher Luxean
is doing. His point of view to cut through that

(01:11:03):
and take the interesting chat about chat is that it's
a plague on all the houses because nobody's thinking about
no one's thinking about of the thing that is very
important to him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Yeah, thank you very much for that, Peter. Oh eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to
call for boards at the moment. If you can't get through,
keep trying. It is fourteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler
Adams afternoons. News talks be pretty good afternoons.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
So we're talking about speculation over Christopher Luxen as leader
of National Chris Bishop potentially eye up a leadership bids.
So what do you say, is a media nonsense or
should it happen?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
This fellow is just talking about another envy tax. The
fact that he tried to imply dairy farmer's tax haven
sums up everything about that caller. I do not agree
with a bunch of these callers. My glasses are full.
Luxon has a beautiful head of here. And that's good
enough for me. Okay, fair enough sensible opinions coming in now.
I went up due to Meghan Woods under labor. Labor

(01:12:02):
caused the gas price increase. Why do people keep talking
about power like it's Luxeon's fault. He knows about being poor.
What does he paid a year?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Okay, yeah, just over three hundred thousand, I think, Dave,
we've got about sixty seconds, my friend, what do you reckon?

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:12:18):
I'll go real fast, Gida, guys. My comments are in
two parts. First of all, I want to completely refute
the caller three or four back who said that Luxan's
got no empathy and he's not got any people's skills.
He cited a friend who's been forty five years in
New Zealand. Absolutely not correct. I have seen Christopher's empathy

(01:12:39):
and care for people and people's skills firsthand for sure.
My going back forty five years, my sister in law
was a steward in New Zealand, and I tell you what, mate,
the largess of what they were given and paid back
then it just could not continue. The world has moved on,
and that Chap's been in there that long. Quite likely

(01:13:01):
he's just not happy about it. Oh, it's not as
good as it.

Speaker 10 (01:13:03):
Used to be.

Speaker 16 (01:13:05):
And now the thing is that I travel a lot.
I fly a lot for my work, and I empty
times have surveyed when Christopher Luxean was in New Zealand
CEO the Stewards, you know one multiple times. Hey, what
do you think of your boss?

Speaker 10 (01:13:24):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:13:25):
One, he's lovely, he comes on board, he's interested in
what you're doing and how do we make him better?
Blah blah blah. He's got empty coming out as this
number two. What do I want in a prime minister?
I want somebody who is respected and represents us well internationally.
I want someone who's got people's skills that can unite

(01:13:46):
a team in cabinet and in government and inspire and
encourage them to do to do the very very best
and so forth. I'm not looking for popularity. I'm looking
for a person who's got skills and talent and knows
how to run a team.

Speaker 10 (01:14:03):
Because the end of the.

Speaker 16 (01:14:04):
Day, it's not about Crystal Lucan, It's about the cabinet.
It's about the whole party as it were. So yeah,
that's what I'm looking for in a prime minister.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
And you reckon Chris Luxeon. Is that man, Dave, Yeah,
he is.

Speaker 16 (01:14:16):
My dad said long ago. Remember this, son, he said, people,
you may be the brightest, reddest, christus juiciest, most wonderful
apple in all the world, but remember this, not everybody
likes apples. I don't want a popularity concept.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
It's good advice from your old man, Dave. It's a
beautiful line.

Speaker 16 (01:14:34):
Thank you about the good word fellows.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Yes, mate, thanks for you called Dave. I appreciate what
a good man.

Speaker 16 (01:14:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
We're going to play some messages, but we'll come back
with a couple more of your techs eight two three.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons news Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
B news Talks. There be it is five to three,
all right, what an.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Interesting chat it's been over the last gosh two hours.
Are going to move on from that. But look on
the issue of Luxeon and the rumors around Chris Bishop.
I think they'd be crazy to roll Luxon at this
point because people like stability, right, and there's no doubt
that Christoph Luxem has brought stability to the National Party.
But what I find really interesting is the amount of
texts and calls about style over substance with Christopher Luxe

(01:15:19):
and people complaining about the way he looks or the
or the way he speaks, not his policies, And it
makes me think that people are looking for some kind
of Lyle Lanley type situation, sort of a monorail salesman.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
I hear those things are awfully.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Loud, light as softly as a cloud.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Is there a change? The track?

Speaker 10 (01:15:40):
Could bet?

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Not on your life, my Hindu friend?

Speaker 20 (01:15:43):
What about us?

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Brendan slabs You'll be given cushy jobs? Well you shat
here by the devil.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
No good sir, I'm on the level.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
The ring came off.

Speaker 15 (01:15:52):
My pudding can take.

Speaker 14 (01:15:53):
My bednafe my good man, I swear at Springfield's only choice.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Throw up your hands and raise your voice.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
What's it? What's a cant?

Speaker 15 (01:16:09):
Tim the Marty smoking?

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Your new home? Are instateful and entertaining talk It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Zebby it's Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yes, are you putting on salads and stuff with the
barbecue tonight?

Speaker 18 (01:16:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
This a good point? Actually, yet someone who has got
salad juicy? We kind of fund it out. You know
who's bringing what? It's almost like a potluck situation. Yes,
so it's a good pointing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I'm bringing the actual barbecue, So that means do I
have to bring anything to cook on the barbecue as
my providing of the ziggra and brown Enough?

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Now you're gotta break some sausages please, What.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
About I make it? I make the best potato salad.
Oh shity, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Excuse my fridge, but I'm very excited about the idea
of potato salad. Why are you chuck into it little
bit of bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I'm not telling you no, no, no, no, no, no, no chies,
but maybe chips, maybe not. Sometimes that's not the key.
I'm not going to give away the riscipe. You'll be
blown away by it. But I do not support bacon
and potatoes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Controversial. Controversial.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I don't think that is controversial.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Nine two. I think I think through potato salad's just
a little bit of crunchy bacon in there. Oh my god,
what yeah, Frida, hell out of it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Tell me that you put peas in your bacon? Negpie pick?

Speaker 15 (01:17:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Oh, to get your protein far from the eggs, of course,
A piece protein, Yeah, piece of protein. Oh there, Yeah,
I don't think they hold a candle to eggs or meat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I love peas. I'm a big fan of peace just
because you can do that. Dad's joke. I'm sitting I'm
sitting crouched over my kids for a pea, a pe
to fall off the plate so I can go, oh,
who pete on the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Very good, dad, very crouch.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
It's a sort of things, isn't it. Or just asking
my kids constantly if they want pea with their dinner,
and when they go, I go, come on, give piece
a chance. So I'm a big fan of peace just
for those two reasons. But now I find out that
their protein as well. I'm very excited to know that.
Might I do a very pure you know it's people
that are real pizza fans. They're like, no, no, no,

(01:18:24):
it's going to be very very simple. You can't have
a lot of stuff. I do a very pure and
simple potato salad that will I could make twenty five
kg's of it and all of it would go Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
These are some bold statements.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
I'm not going to make twenty five kg's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Can you make one kg?

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I might make one kg?

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Sounds pretty good, but that's perfect potato salad. Right, let's
get into this one. So there is a pub that
has decided to ban people who are drinking solo. So
they've done that because they said it's for everybody's safety.
It's got a massive pushback online. But that's what we
want to have a chat about. So this is just
one pub that's decided no more people are on their

(01:19:02):
own just having a cheeky beer. But is that something
that many kiwis would do. It's pretty popular and the
likes of the United States of judging by the movies
that I've seen, maybe that is just a movie trope
where you go in you've had a hard, hard time,
something's gone wrong in the in the movie, and you
go right up to the bar and say, yeah, leave

(01:19:22):
the bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
It's a scene in so many movies, isn't it. So
you know the cop has just been fired, taking his
gun and badge off him, and then you know his
partner finds them in a dive bar. Just got to
get your back just having shots. You got to get
yourself together, Yeah, I mean drinking by yourself in a bar.
It's funny because someone texted before I love you guys.

(01:19:44):
Show but can you please stop talking about politics on
a Friday? Can we ban politics from your showing your
Friday and talk about something frivolous please, So, yeah, this
is pretty frivolous.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
We took that on board. And here's why we're talking
about drinking in a bar solo.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
So drinking in a bar is there by yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
I've enjoyed, I enjoyed that, Sam gone for I'll go
for a walk and then and then I'll walk past
my favorite but and I'll go, oh, I'll just i'ld
just snipping and have a have a cheeky little one
by myself. That doesn't mean I should be this publicans
a judgmental person. Just because I stop in with my
dog Colin and sit down and have one drink when
I'm walking the dog doesn't mean that later on I'm

(01:20:20):
going to be pesting people in the bar and being
some kind of I don't know, predator.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
But you know, when you look at the bar situation,
and this is where I agree with this publican is
it's usually the guys by themselves that do become a
little bit pisty later on. It's never, never, usually the groups.
It's usually old mate in the corner and he's had
a couple of jugs, and then he starts getting just
a little bit, a little bit too much try.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
I think this sucks. I think this sucks because we've
started judging people for not having enough mates. I go
to the movies by myself, and I don't want to
be judged for them, but I do feel judged when
I walk down the aisle and I've got my massive
popcorn and my ice cream and I'm balancing a packet
of chips as well, and a few other snacks. And
then I go and sit in the middle of the
aisle by myself, and I can feel the eyes, I

(01:21:08):
can feel people going hello, Nigel Nomates.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
Yeah, I judge you too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
But I do have friends. You're my friend, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
I'm definitely your friend.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
But you can't always go to the movies with me,
so some people don't want to go to the movies,
so I want to go get judged by going to
the movies by yourself. You get judged by going to
a bar by yourself. And what's wrong with spending a
little bit of time on your own. It doesn't mean
you're some kind of predator because you go to a
bar by yourself for a drink. And what about people

(01:21:35):
that are traveling. I travel a lot. You know, I
might be doing a gig in another city and I
don't really know anyone people there, So before I go
on stage, I might just go and have a little
get a little bit of a little cup of Dutch
courage before I go and perform.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Right, we allow there, that's fine, But how do you
know when I walk into the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Bar that I'm not the guy that's out of town
that's doing this. But you know, you know what I mean,
You don't know what this person's up to that you're
judging that's drinking them by themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Oh, you can tell a local from a mile away.
Surely I can tell a tourist from a local that
if it's you know, some tourists who's just popping in
just for a weird drink while they're on tour.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
I do most of my gigs in New Zealands. So
you're saying that when I arrive in christ Church and
I go into a bar, people go the s guy's
from not around here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
If I saw you drinking by yourself, oh, one hundred
eighty ten eighty, it's the number to call. Is it
okay to just go into a bar and have a
few drinks by yourself or is it just not done
in New Zealand's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
But I'll tell you what you know. That's the frivolous
topic we want to talk about. But after those are
just mentioning data salad. That is what the text machine
and the phones are firing up about. So it is
a Friday, yeah, So if you want to talk about
potato salad and whether or not you should have peas
in it, I want to talk about bacon and egg
pie whether or not that should have him peas in it,
then we'll take your cause one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you want to stick up for solo drinkers, Nigel

(01:22:46):
no mates like me, then then we'll talk about that
as well. It's a free for all.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
We're giving you what you want on this Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
And if you're wondering wh're in New Zealand are the
week is in a bold, brave move, We're mixing things up.
New Zeland of the Week is going to be after
the news headlines.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Lucy Goosey today, we love it. It is in bars
three back in the month US talks'd be who are
good afternoons? You're sixteen past three. So we've got a
bit on the go on this Friday afternoon. A bit
of frivolity, yeah, bit of everything. So we have been
talking about drinking solo at a bar? Is that okay
in New Zealand? After a bar owner band single drinkers.
But also there's a bit of chat about the perfect

(01:23:22):
potato salad as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
This Texas is I used to like you, Matt, but
get out of here with your no bacon and your
potato salad disgusting off with your head. You deserve to
be tasted. PS. Loved your book, Thanks for finish on
a high.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
But you're right man, with our bacon. Come on, you've
gotta have that texture.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
I'll talk no no, no, no, no, no no. I'll
talk you through the ultimate potato salad recipe and I'll
just say your texture comes from the red.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Onion, red onion cheap as mate. You're at the gate, Greg,
you want to have a chat about the perfect potato salad.

Speaker 21 (01:23:58):
Well, I've got an editor that can take your perfect
potato salad or MAT's perfect potato salad to a whole
new level. Risky, I import it from Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
All right, you piqued my interest.

Speaker 21 (01:24:12):
I've seen an image with the email address. I think
that's Tyler's email address to see the boss.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
There is he Tyler? Yep, he's the boss of the
potatoes boss Valet.

Speaker 21 (01:24:27):
Yeah, okay, well, so you produced. I'll send you an
image and let me know if you want to Joe
and I'll send you Joe up. But you try that
and you'll be absolutely mate. Just on your topic about
having a drink in a bar on your own, I
do that quite often. I take the newspaper and have
a Guinness and read the news of the day. And
if any one thinks that, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
It's a good point. Actually so sort of and hear
it in the subject is the idea that you care
what other people think, you know, I mean in this case.
In this case is a bar that's not allowing people
to drink in the bar alone because I think they're pissed.
But but and apart from that, who cares what other
people think? If people think that you're creep or lonely
or don't have friends who.

Speaker 21 (01:25:04):
Kires, well exactly whatever I mean. If you're paying fifteen
backs for upone againness anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Yeah, but would you do just quickly a greg? Would
you do that without the newspaper? See on My argument
is you need props because what else are you doing
if you're just drinking and steering at other patrons? I
mean that to me is just doing to get eyes.

Speaker 22 (01:25:25):
For Christmas something you know, I've read it. I'll go
down to my local, you know, some later in the day,
but yeah, for hormone or patroon and have a reason.
You see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
You're not cutting eye holes in the paper like an
old spy steering around the room.

Speaker 21 (01:25:44):
Mate, possibly show.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
You're a good man. We'll look out for that picture
of your magic Mexican mayo.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
I'm interested to know what this special ingredient is important
from Mexico. Cindy, welcome to the show. How are you
this Friday?

Speaker 16 (01:25:59):
Hi?

Speaker 19 (01:26:00):
Good? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
So drinking on your lonesome in a bar? Are you
pro or again?

Speaker 15 (01:26:06):
It?

Speaker 19 (01:26:08):
I pro it purely because my son is on the
autistic spectrum and he quite often goes to the movies
by himself, and he because he enjoys his own company,
and he goes by himself, and I don't think that

(01:26:30):
there's anything wrong with that at all. I mean, he's
only eighteen, but I'm sure when he gets a bit
older and wants to enjoy a beer in the pub
by himself, I don't think there's anything creepy or weird
about that at all, and I think it should be
I think it should be more actually appreciated. The fact
that you don't need to be in someone's company to

(01:26:52):
enjoy yourself. I think that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Yeah, And another point on that, Cindy, is you're not
supposed to talk to people in the movies anyway, so.

Speaker 19 (01:27:00):
Exactly, and you get told off for that, so you
can't win.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
So it's kind of a weird thing. So back in
the day when I used to go on date, you
take some of the movie and there'd be a weird
thing because you'd have the dinner beforehand and you go
to the movie and then you sit beside this person
for two hours and don't talk to this and then
they're almost just you almost have to meet them meet
them again at the end of it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
So the worst idea for a date a movie.

Speaker 19 (01:27:22):
I never saw the logic and going to the movies
on a first date, it's weird that there the stranger
just awkwardly watching a movie when you really should be
getting to know each other.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Yeah, and so horribly judgmental to look over at someone
who's having a drink by themselves. People be and if
someone's a creep, then then hassle them because they're a creep.
And when they're being a creep, don't assume someone as
a creep who knows as you say, your son likes
to spend time on his own, bloody brilliant he does.

Speaker 19 (01:27:56):
And you know, I think from personal experience, drinking in
clubs a group of people, it's just adjusts as creepy
and sluozy. You know, someone that's by themselves as if
he wants to be left alone.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Groups out there, there's plenty of creeps of friends.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
There's plenty of groups of creeps. In fact, in fact,
I'd rather one creep in a group of creeks.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Yeah, operating on you just have to keep your eye
on one.

Speaker 19 (01:28:25):
One's easier to knock out than the whole group.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Sunday, I briefly I forgot your name because I was
shocked by this text. This person says, right now, I'm
owning the bar, drinking by myself, wearing studies for no undies.
Now that's another issue. Studies with no undies and are
as a far deeper and more concerning.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
It could be high on the creep indecks. But good
on you. You know, it's nice to be free.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yeah, well, I mean this always that guy on the
building site that you're going to be under a ladder
and yeah, that's also another totally totally different as you
just got to tuck it in, Craig, welcome to the show.

Speaker 20 (01:29:07):
Yeah, gooday, guys, A hilarious conversation. I work on building fats, mate,
and I was just picturing a guy and study beaming
over in front of me, laning concrete with a testicle
hanging out the side.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
We've all seen it.

Speaker 20 (01:29:21):
It's not pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm all for not judging people,
but I'll judge that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
Yeah, you've got to call that out.

Speaker 20 (01:29:30):
It's a box, mate, it's a box of bear.

Speaker 10 (01:29:33):
Yeah, we're all about it's like.

Speaker 20 (01:29:37):
Bear. But look, I actually I've got to admit, like
I traveled internationally and yet I am working for business
and stuff like regularly by myself sometimes and I really
enjoyed going out to a restaurant having a meal by myself,
and it's like I'll take a book sometimes or just

(01:29:59):
chill out and then I go, oh, I might pop
out to a bar and have a couple of beers.
The chaos is not the dude doing that. The chaos
is are the hens parties and the stagged.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you want to leave the bar pretty quickly.
You see, the hens do come in and you're not
forty I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Mean stag do or Hen's party when they've got their
challenges and you're just trying to have a nice quiet
drink and you and you get subjected to a challenge.

Speaker 20 (01:30:26):
Oh no, not good, Yeah, totally guys. Yeah, so yeah,
I'm also yeah, individuality, man, I don't maybe you got
onto the different to everyone else, but I don't really
think there's an issue with a Kiwi bloke or a
Kiwi lady going out for a beer somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Yeah, yeah, all right, good on you, Craig. And yeah,
a lot of people saying that you know this text.
For example, when I travel to a hotel in christych
I'm too embarrassed to have dinner on my own, so
I get room service. That's that's a problem. Yeah, it's
a problem. I mean, maybe take a book down so people,
so you're signal signaling that even if you're not reading
the book, you're kind of signaling that you're in here.
But then again, who cares what other people think? God?

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Well, see, here's a problem that I've got with a situation,
and maybe it's a personal one, is that I have
drunken at a bar by myself before and it was
after not the stock because I love it, but another job,
had a bad day, go down to the pub and
have a drink and then get home and mayb see
is where have you been? Sort of just been down
at the bar having a drink and then the accusations
start coming in and say by yourself, Well, what's going

(01:31:24):
on you? If you need some help, you know, is
this what is going on in your life that you've
got to the point where you're just going to a
bar by yourself and you haven't told me to come
down and meet you. I just needed a bit of
a bit of a breather, bit of r and I
just by myself to get my thoughts together with a
couple of beers. But some people will look at that
and think he's got a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
That the bartender should say pull up a story or two.
And because because someone is saying that. You know, in
the States, bars are very different. We in New Zealand
we tend to just have drinking holes. Yeah, but in
the States, the bartender is sort of they can be
a psychologist, psychiatrist, they can be a friend, they can

(01:32:04):
be you know that they're more open to that kind
of thing. You might go down and sit at the
bar and have a bit of an interaction with the
person behind the butt.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Yeah. Do they exist in New Zealand? Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
To be fair, I'm describing only things I've seen in movies.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Nineteen ninety two is the text. We're going to take
a quick break.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
I just want to just do this one first.

Speaker 9 (01:32:21):
Chilet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
What do you call a group of creeps? I think
that the collective noun is a pestarati.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
I'm very good. It's twenty five barts three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB twenty eight pass three.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
It's a bit of a free for all. Friday, we
have been talking about drinking by yourself at a bar
after a publican decided I didn't want singles anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Doing stuff by yourself is a sign of strength people.
It means you don't need other people to feel good
about yourself. So if you can't do it, you're weak.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Lol.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
If you see people by the South certainly doesn't mean
that they do it all the time, but sometimes is
a good thing. The bartenders in the States are working
for tips. The friendlier that they are, the higher tip
they expect.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
Cheers.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Nigel, I'm not sure if it's Nigel no mates or not. Matt,
how would you feel about the odd caper and said
potato salad. I can recommend the contrast of saltiness with
the creamy spud. Oh, that's interesting. I have never I
haven't done that. I have never tried a caper and
a potato salad. And actually I've never seen a caper

(01:33:29):
and a potato salad, so I can't really comment on it.
But your logic seems sound. I like a I support
a very a very simplistic potato salad, a pure classic
potato salad. So of course you got the potatoes. Yep,
absolutely but you don't peel them.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
What do you mean you don't peel them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
You scrub them and you boil them, but you don't
peel them.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Hang on a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
You don't peel them. It's rustic. It gives a bit
of holds the potato salad together. Okay, yep, you don't
peel them.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
It's got nutrition. I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
I'll have a bit of red onion in there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Tote yuck red onion. It so no bacon and red onion.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
So if you're making let's say one point five kg
of potato salad, I'm gonna put one and a half
cups of mayonnaise in there.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Nice, And I've got a special mayonnaise I use. Okay, yeah,
you know, I'm happy with the big tubs, but there's
a Japanese mayonnaise that I use. And then then I
will have some lemon juice in there as well.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Nice. Yep, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Just a little tease of Jean mustard, just a little,
just a little, just a little. And then the next part,
Tyler is going to blow your mind. Hard boiled eggs.

Speaker 10 (01:34:35):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
I will throw in just in the mix. You might
even not even notice that they're there, Tyler to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Right, that's subtle, that's subtle.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Yeah, just a couple of hard boiled eggs in the
operation measurement or just put them into quarters. You chop
them up way more than quarters. Right, you chop them
up and you put them in there, and and you
stir heavily, and that that's all you need to deal with.
The choice of the mayonnaise is incredibly important. You can

(01:35:03):
over mayonnaise and it just becomes a sloppy mess, but
you can under mayonnaise. Well, so I'm going to say
one and a half cups to one point five kg.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Okay, nice that Yeah, that sounds pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
There's so many people tixing in on the capers, so
I'm going to try capers.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
What about anchovies?

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Get out of town, leave town.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Surely, surely, just a little spice of anchovy in there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
You need to trigger warning on potato salad worth anchovies.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Can pizzas and just to mix it right, mix it
right up. If it doesn't have bacon, I don't want it.

Speaker 15 (01:35:40):
I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Okay, well I won't bring it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
I'll bring a side.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Sorry I said that.

Speaker 19 (01:35:45):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
I'll bring a sight of chopped up crispy bacon that
you can sprinkle on your potato salad tonight at your barbecue.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Peas and tomatoes and a bacon and egg pie are
a must. Met you muppet.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Tomatoes, I don't know about tomatoes. I was with you
on the peas. But corn like quite you know, sweet cream,
creamp cream corn? No, no, just no, frozen corn. Beautiful.
How can you hear peace without the corn? No, it's
like Sonny and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
You're talking about the bacon eg pie.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah yeah, and maybe a bit of
carrot in there if you really finished.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
No, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
And chutney, no chutney. How dry is your bacon e pie?

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
What's the non emergency police line?

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
I want to make a one zero five, one zero five.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
I want to make a celery scissus pison gurkin girkin.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Would go well, and potato salad. Yeah, it's kind of
like capers, but just with a bit of extra extraduce.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
No, no, no, no. There's some we're talking about these
creeps that drink by themselves and bars. There's some people
doing some creepy stuff to potato salad out there. But yeah,
it is the It is the kerk Pie mayonnaise that
I use.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Oh that's good stuff. Actually, yeah, that's the Japanese mayo.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Yeah it's not cheap, Yeah, but it's good.

Speaker 7 (01:36:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Yeah, nice.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
That's all right. So okay, finally, people saying that you
are a criminal if you don't put finally chopped celery
in your potato salad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
What's the point. What's the point there? It's just crunchy water.
There's no celery. There is no point to cellary.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
I'm going to try, bloody. I want to try capers
because there's so many people suggesting capers. I'm going to
try so tonight, Tyler, when I debut that, I'm going
to get standing ovation from my potato salad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
It's been massively talked.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
On Saturday morning, when all your friends text you, we'll
go on the highlights of the night before. It'll be
the potato salad that I bring.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
All right, this is a bold statement, but I will
report back on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Okay, all right, we will leave us to sum up.
I think we all agree. No peas and a bacon
and ink pie. No bacon and a potato salad. And
it's be confident in yourself and if you feel like
having a drink at a bar, then who cares what
anyone thinks? You just by yourself, You just you, just
be you, You do you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
The last point beautiful, yeah, nice right. Coming up next,
we're going to have a chat to Herold sports reporter
Alex Powell and or so we've been holding off on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
It about the IF one on Las Vegas, the ed
p one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Yep, but we have held off on it a little
bit than usual this Friday. But the moment, everyone is
looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
The Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week
after the headlines, it's going to be huge.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Youth talks at be Headlads.

Speaker 13 (01:38:23):
With blue bubble taxis, it's no trouble with a blue bubble.
A person's been arrested in the Bay of Plenty, town
of Katia Khati after an armed police operation this afternoon
forced local schools and an early childhood center into lockdown.
Police a person's in custody and charges will follow. The
country's largest education union wants the government to take over

(01:38:45):
the costs of an asbestos clean up for schools ec
Rainbow and Chreastics colored sand has been recalled, alongside four
magic sand products sold at kmart. The NZDI Eye says
the cost of schools could be crippling. Professional firefighters have
wrapped up yet another one hour strike over unfair pay
and staffing issues. For an emergency in New Zealand says

(01:39:07):
it received eight calls an area is impacted by the
strike between twelve and one pm. A person's in a
critical condition after a three vehicle crash or clintse epsom
this afternoon. Emergency services were called to the intersection of
Gillies Avenue and Owen's Road around half past two. As said,
recycling as a good call, but it's no cash cow.

(01:39:29):
See the full column at NZED Herald Premium. Back to
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
The Matteath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 23 (01:39:42):
Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on Newstalk zb
we name the New Zealander of the Week a powerful
but also completely made up on it that we bestow
on your behalf to a newsmaker who have discussed on
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty over the last week,
someone something or some people who have done good for.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
The greatest little country on planet Earth. As always, there'll
be two runners up, but only one winner. Who will
it be. Let's get on to it all the way.
Ady gets it, finds the gap, does Daryl Mitchell, and
it's the raise the bat moment, simply brilliant for Mitchell
on his way to a seventh One Day International hundred,
the second runner up bats and bowls. He's also bald

(01:40:18):
and beautiful and this week he became the first KII
batter in forty six years to reach number one on
the ICC Men's ODI batting rankings.

Speaker 23 (01:40:26):
Darryl Mitchell, you son of them, Mitch, you are second
runner up, the new Zealander of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
You got to understand.

Speaker 7 (01:40:36):
You've gotta have a nat.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
You've got abail to read the room and hear the room.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Pack mark onto our first runner up. You're two hundred
meters long. You can carry three thousand and sixty passages
between years, two point four kilometers of vehicle lanes and
forty rail wagons each and even with the infrastructure in
the match, you still cost two point three billion cheaper
than the original plan.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Who's a.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
You may not exist yet, but Winston's two new rail
enabled into Oil and the Furies.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
You are first runner up for New Zealand of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
But there can be only one, and by one I
mean fifty thousand people, and by one I also mean.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Hold my breath as I wish for deaf.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Oh please God wake me. Fourteen songs, nearly three heavy,
heavy hours. What a show, what a band? What a
crowd of.

Speaker 23 (01:41:40):
Good buggers for whom the bell told Master of Puppets,
seek him destroy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
The fifty thousand kiwe Metlers who packed Eden Park for
the mighty Metallica. You are the Mattin Tyler. Afternoons, New
Zealanders of the Week, take it away, James Kirk, Robert
and to a lesser extent lars. Then they got twe

(01:42:30):
thousand dollars for charity.

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
Good people.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Can you see them as Pellican.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
Wow your home of afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Say'd be very good. Afternoon June seventeen to four. So
the f one Las Vegas Grand Prix is underway. First
practice seation kicked off this afternoon to chat more. We're
joined by HEROLD sports reporter Alex Powell.

Speaker 7 (01:42:58):
Getta mates, afternoon, mate, We're to turn my MinC on.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Just neither you go. You're on now we can we
can hear you. So there was a bit of drama
earlier in the week in Vegas as the flooding all cleared.

Speaker 7 (01:43:10):
I mean it looked like it. Yeah, there was no
major issues in the first practiition that you second one
in a couple of hours, but yeah, really weird to
see that. You don't really expect Vegas with flooding there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
I've been in Vegas when it's flooded and it's crazy.
The car park is not designed for it, and so
you've got you outdoor travelators, outdoor escalators, and car parks
just become rivers. It's crazy because I mean, you know,
you're not actually supposed to have a city there, So
it's weird.

Speaker 7 (01:43:35):
You fly it to Vegas and it's just like there
is nothing around it, right in the middle of the
desert and it's just this metropolis of gambling.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Yeah, it's fantastic. How is the race being received in Vegas?
Because in its third year there was a bit of
controversy at the start, especially around all the building and
the roadworks and putting everyone out, but how people feeling
about it in near the locals and such.

Speaker 7 (01:43:57):
I think there is an acceptance now, not just with Vegas,
but wherever you are in the world that if you
can get an F one Grand Prix in your city,
it's probably a good thing. Yeah, I mean this is
now what the third one, like you were saying, the
first one was a bit of a shambles. I can
remember the drain cover.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
That Shirley Klare got smashed up by a drain cob.

Speaker 7 (01:44:11):
Yeah, but now, like I mean, I think they've really
got the hang of it now. It is actually a
really good race. The last couple of years have actually
been good once you get through all the theater of it.
And yeah, Bruce Buffer introducing SiO peris awkward. Yeah, it's
really is one to watch, and like it's helped by
the fact it's such a good time zone for us.
Normally we struggle with that, but at five pm it lights.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Out, absolutely the best time zone. But it's a weird track.
I think I feel like there's there's sort of a
soulness to it because if the base have to turn
into a prison. It's sort of a futuristic running man
type situation for a lot of it.

Speaker 7 (01:44:43):
Yeah, you mean you shut the whole strip down, you know,
you think about I mean, you've been to Vegas. I
don't know, have you been as well?

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:44:49):
I have.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
Yeah, so you guys go back.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
You guys know what takes yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
I mean four times in the last time, I just
I've decided as I was leaving a great depression. But
that's not the issue we're talking about here.

Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
Well, I mean, you guys know, once the sun goes down,
that strip is just, you know, a hub of life.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Yeah, it's a hive of scum and Vinley Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:45:08):
It's the moss Iicley Canteen.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:45:10):
Yeah. But once that race starts, you sort of have
to shut everything down and just let that take over,
which I think a lot of the locals did struggle with.
But like I said, the economic benefits that you get
out of it are just second or none.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Yeah, So onto the race house, the drivers championships shaping up.
What does Lando have to do, What does Oscar Pistre
have to do? And even though it's getting more and
more unlikely, what does Max have to do this weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:45:34):
I think it's Orlando's to lose from here. You know,
that one in Brazil, like we've seen Brazil over the
last company, has been like a really significant win for
whoever would go on to win. You saw Max with
Stappen last year that basically sealed it even though he
was nowhere near the best car, Whereas Lando Norris does
have the best car and he's now got the lead
over his rivals to actually get it done. If he

(01:45:54):
just does what he's been doing all season, he'll be
the world champion in a month's time.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
But you know, anything can happen in Vegas, and a
DNF is always on the cards.

Speaker 7 (01:46:05):
Yeah, I mean that's that's sort of the the ultimate
thing that will try it at the moment. I think
if your Max with stapp and all you can do
is just stay on on lad of Norris's hells, you know,
let Lando make a mistake. You know, he's not used
to being in this position. He's never really been a
world championship contender until this year.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
Remember when they used to call the Lando no one's.

Speaker 7 (01:46:23):
Yeah, but that went away very quickly. That's just the
internet being dead, isn't it's pretty clever.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Yeah, I mean so much of my time spent online
reading in sending you if one means yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:46:34):
You've not done that for a while. By the way,
I thought, something's wrong with.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
You've been shifting house speaking about our boy Liam, So
I hit the practice round. How did he go? And
how did you Ki get something?

Speaker 7 (01:46:44):
With limb? He was solid, no real issues. He did
have one sort of wobble at the end where he
went a bit too deep at one of the corners,
but I mean that's a very easy thing to fix.
So thirteenth there was about a second off the pace.
So is there a point nine? Yuki snow did really well.
I mean it's only practice, and teams trial different things
with their full loads and their wings setups and so

(01:47:05):
on and so forth. But you can know what's third. You
could know it was ahead of Max with staff. You know,
at a time when both drivers are, from what we understand,
fighting for that one seat. If he can have a
good weekend, that's going to say a lot come the
time Red Bull do make that decision.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
It feels like it's short up though, but doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:47:21):
It depends how you want to look at it, Like
so Yuki Snoda's place with Red Bull has always been
about Honda. He's been there for five years now. He's
never really been a contender for that main Red Bull
drive just because he was there to fill a place
Honda can go and say, look, we've got a guy
in Formula one. Now with Honda leaving, you really do question, well,
what is Sonoda's value to red Bull, you know, because

(01:47:42):
once Ford come in as the supply, you can't have
one of the other guys for the other manufacturers there
in your seat.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
When are they going to make the call? Because I
know I've got pushed back a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:47:53):
Well, so initially they said Mexico. I believe, potentially off
the record, it was a contractual thing that the decision
had to be made by the end of October. They've
pushed that back to after katar Now or Racing Ball's
boss Alan Pamaine was saying it might not come until
after Abidabty set out try and avoid what they had
last year, where that decision wasn't paid until late in
the season after they had finished, and we might just

(01:48:15):
get the same thing again.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
I think I think, you know, all that chatter around
the ministry of defense of New Zealand, which was triggering
for Mexicans. But I think if for a midfield car
and a midfield driver, if you can, if you can
defend the way Liam Lawson can defend, then that is
incredibly important for forgetting points going forward.

Speaker 7 (01:48:37):
I've honestly been the most impressed with that from Liam Lawson.
The season, like his whole junior career was about attacking
and aggression, Like that's why Red Bull put him up
there because they thought he was the most similar thing
they had to Max Verstappen. But seeing him defend like
it's and it wasn't just Brazil either, you know, you
think back to Austria when he was having to defend
from Fernando Alonso, and Hungary when he's defending from the Stapen,
and Baku when he's got Sonoda, a Ferrari McLaren right

(01:49:00):
behind him. So that for me, if Red Bull are
looking at how much the drivers are growing, that's Liam
is so much further ahead of Sonoda and how we improved.
He is race to race.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
Yeah, and as you say, Las Vegas is a great
time zone for us, so when we're looking at Qualie
and when we're looking at the race.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
About five pm Saturday Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
Nice, how good?

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
Insanely good?

Speaker 13 (01:49:23):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
How perfect?

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
I was talking to you the other day. I was
thinking how interesting would be to live in the Northern
Hemisphere and your experience of IF one would be so different.
If it wasn't it a middle of the night thing
you're just just sitting down and watching it in daylight,
would be insane.

Speaker 7 (01:49:41):
Yeah, have a bit of lunch right on, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
A few beers as well.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Well, we get to feel that way. And I guess
Europe's in a bad time zone for once for IF one, So.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
Yeah, about time. Okay, go Liam, go Max. Yep, it's
going to be exciting. So P two this afternoon, four
forty five round five pm and that qualifying tomorrow is
four o'clock so it's going to be very exciting. Always
good to see you, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
And Alex Powell will have as excellent analysis in the
Herald at a timely few what twenty five minutes after
the race finishes, twenty five fifteen mate on the final whistle?

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Mate final, okay, yeah, good to go, that's what we like.
We'll catch against soon, mate, Thank you very much. That
is Alex Powell Herold sports journalist chatting about the F
one Grand Prix in Las Vegas. It is nine minutes
to four.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons, Used TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
News Talks THEB. It is six minutes to four.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
All right, that brings us the end of the Friday Show.
Thank you so much for listening. Everyone loved our chats today.
It's been a good old time.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
And we get so many great kiwis, of course ringing
through to our show that every week we pick a
caller of the week and this week we were talking
about an American woman who said, ki we mean a
low energy when it comes to dating, and we've got
a call from Maxxine who kind of backed that up.

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
I've probably been on about twelve days with the local
guys from around the Wellington region and there was only
one net fought flowers for me for.

Speaker 9 (01:51:14):
The first date.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
And that guy was a South African living together nearly
two years now. And you know the other funny thing,
trying to get him off the dating sites was incredibly
hard because soon as we got things together and we
were like, yeah, yeah, we're really into each other. And
I'd say to him, I've gone off the dating site and.

Speaker 8 (01:51:33):
That have you gone off yet?

Speaker 5 (01:51:34):
And He's like, oh, well, I'll think about it, and
I was like rude, But anyway we got there on
the end.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
So good with the flowers, Yeah, not so good at commitment.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Well, if you're on a date this weekend, key, we
men put in some effod Yeah, get some flowers, pay
for the meal, and if you like it, get off
the apps. All right, the great and powerful Heather did
see Allen is up next. But right now, Tyler, my
good buddy, tell me why I'm playing the song here.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Lockie's just getting it ready to go. Here we go,
Here we go. As John Lennon, you have pizza chance.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
And I'm gonna I said some pretty harsh things about
peas and bacon and eggpies. Yep, and I'm going to
give peas a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Good man, We'll change your life.

Speaker 10 (01:52:20):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
Okay, see at your barbecue at what seven? Shall be
around there at seven?

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Yeah? About seven. I'm looking forward to this potato salad.

Speaker 16 (01:52:27):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Everyone else, have a great weekend. Give a taste of kiwi.
You seem busy will let you go, bless you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Love you. We can get some months today. Yeah, feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Body.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
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