May 3, 2025 • 14 mins
Ira Dean was the band Trick Pony's wildly talented wild man, and it almost killed him. He tells Crook & Chase how he rose from addiction to now releasing a stunning solo album featuring all-star collabs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello again, everybody. Welcome to Crook and Chase National Chest.
(00:02):
Charlie and Loriann here direct from Nashville's world famous music Row.
Where we are, shall we say, surrounded by a lot
of characters, And I say that because they are the
most creative people in the world. I'm talking to songwriters,
the entertainers, and we have a prime example of what
we're talking about today as we visit with Ira Dean.
Now you're probably thinking, well, that sounds familiar. Let me
(00:24):
kind of refurbish your brain a little bit, because Ira
Dean was the flamboyant guy in the Trick Pony group
back in the nineties. He had the stand up bass, guitars,
had headlights on him. Yeah, he's the only one.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So now you know who I'm talking about, right, wild
man of that band for sure. What a dramatic story
he has that you are about to hear about surviving
the music business. Now, this guy has it all. He's
a solo artist. Now he's a singer, hit songwriter, multi instrumentalist,
top notch producer in the studio. What's even more clear,
(01:01):
as Iredeine releases his new star studded album I Got Rhads,
is that Ira well, he has traveled a lot of
difficult and dangerous roads. He is a walking, talking personification
of country music. I'm talking raw, personal, insightful about life
experiences in his music. As he says, ire Deine is
(01:25):
an open book.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We discovered he doesn't hold back. He does not hold
back at all in this conversation we had with him.
He's currently on tour with Brooks and dun you'll see
him on stage playing guitar. But through a lot of
good things happening in his life and big turnarounds, he's
come up with the music project we think you're really
going to enjoy. But first of all, a little history
about Ira, shall we?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Okay, so catches up because you know we were riding
this trick pony thing with you. How do you describe
just the dissolution of trick pony which put you on
a soul path.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You know, we all had when we first got signed,
we all had a vision and somehow once we hit
everybody's vision changed. And I wanted a rock harder, and
Keith wanted to turn into nineteen eighties Alabama, and Heidi
just kind of she wanted to do Lessinda Williams stuff
one minute and then Martina McBride the next, and then
(02:24):
it just kind of you know, forty foot a bus
ain't big enough for three people to get along sometimes,
so I get it. It was like a three way divorce.
But back in the Trick Pony days, I was writing
a lot of songs, you know. I wrote eight on
the first album, seven on the second, and by then
Keith and Heidie didn't want to cut no more my songs.
So but I started getting cuts with Gary Allen Montgomery,
Gentry cut seven or eight of mine, Chris Young and
(02:48):
so I was getting cuts outside the box. And so
when I left Trick Pony, I became a staff writer
again and I had a developmental deal which didn't happen.
But I just started writing stuff for other people and
I had a good little run and then I don't know,
then I ended up producing Aaron Lewis over there for
Big Machine. I did two albums with Aaron and we
(03:11):
got his first number one in twenty two years. We
wrote him I the only one together and it took off.
And that's when Noah Gordon called me from a track
and he's like, when are you going to do an album?
And I was like, if you want to lose money.
I'm your guy, I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Seriously, I mean, you still had your hands in it
very successfully. But did you feel like you were just
kind of done trying to be an artist?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Honestly, Yeah, honestly did I went, You know, I finally
got married after all these years. I never Yeah, I
never been married before. I was always married to music.
I love making music. It's all I've ever done. And
so I finally got married. And I remember telling my wife.
I was like, She's like, do you ever plan on retiring?
(03:55):
And I was like, I think I might already be
and just don't know. You know, I haven't had a
hit in a few years on somebody else. I might
be retired. The industry might have retired me, and I
just don't know yet. And then the Aaron Lewis thing hit,
and then I started getting calls by everybody to write again.
I don't know what happened. It just it just happened.
(04:18):
I have no IDEA good Lord kind of gave me
another he sprinkled some dust on me again.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh well, hey, so not to live in the past.
But you know, you were always the party guy, and
heck you still are. So what are your thoughts about
this new sober second chance that you're experiencing right now.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I was like the designated liver of trick Pony. I
took all the radio guys out and I and I
showed them a great time. But you know, I look
back on my life and every problem I ever had
was somehow tied to alcohol and prescription drugs. And so,
you know, if that's happening to you out there, you know,
(04:57):
I call that a drinking problem. If I every problem
you got, you know, I got tired of waking up
in the county Orange, and so I started out drinking
the whiskey. But little by little it started drinking me,
and it became it convinced me, little by little that
I couldn't do nothing without it. Its goal is to
get you in the darkness by yourself and kill you.
(05:18):
And that was the next stage of my you know,
and I was ready to go. I'll be honest with you,
and I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I looked in the mirror and I prayed, and me
and the man upstairs and the sun got a good relationship. Now,
so how long ago was this? This is My dad
died in seven I climbed in a whiskey bottle for
about five years. So after that, yeah, yeah, his last
words to me, whereas, if you keep drinking, you're gonna
(05:45):
lose everything. That was it, And he was right. I
almost lost everything, including my life. So it took oh yeah, yeah.
Like I said, I had the emotional IQ of a
kindergartener and I didn't want to face that stuff. So
I just self medicated. His switch like twenty eleven something
like that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Whoa, okay, so what flipped the switch?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I didn't want to die. It was just simple as that. Wow.
And plus I wasn't proud of myself. I just became
a guy I did not like I get royalty checks
off of songs. I don't remember writing. I don't remember
being in the room. And so that's a good problem
to have. It's it makes a great rock and roll story.
But I'm sitting there going you're depressed. Yeah, I'm so depressed.
(06:28):
I'm like, maybe I wasn't. Maybe they just screwed up
the name in the corner. But for like a year
and a half, I you know, I would sit in
the rooms, and I know my friends were helping me out,
like David Lee Murphy and Jeffrey Steele and Walling. I know,
because I would apologize after writing writing with her, I'm like, guys, sorry, man,
I'm not on my game. I'm not on my game.
I'm over there shaking and sweating, and uh so they
(06:51):
stuck with me, and I don't know. I just I
quit trying to be so clever and just started writing.
I realized that I can't beat the truth, and I
just write the truth. You know, there's songs on this album.
There's some fun stuff, and I sing about the drinking
times too, but I mean this thing goes deep. I
sing about my drinking years, my sober and up, my
(07:12):
crazy times, my you know, the good, the bad, the ugly,
the broken, the repair, finding my wife, getting married, finally
losing my parents, becoming an orphan, and all that fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Your whole life is in this album. You personally have
called it. I think eye opening and heartwarming. Just the
process of creating this. What was eye opening and heartwarming
for you? I mean, I know that the fact that
so many of your very dear and famous friends in
country music supported this, But even beyond that, what is
(07:47):
eye opening and heartwarming for you?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, if I'm going to be completely honest with myself.
I'm probably the reason I drank so much, I think
was my insecurities. You know, I was a maintenance man
in North Carolina, and then I come to Nashville and
I get signed, and I'm in a room with all
my heroes because I was a huge country fan, and
so I drank, and I drink a lot, and even
(08:12):
though people thought I had a big ego, I was
the most. I had the biggest ego and the biggest
insecurities in the room. And that's a bad mixture for
a drunk. And so I thought maybe throughout those years,
you know, you spend your whole life, well I did
in this town, hoping to god, I just left a
small fingerprint, you know, like I mattered, and I didn't
(08:34):
think I did. And you know, I thought maybe I
burned every bridge that possibly a man could burn. And
so when it got time to make this record, you know,
i'd been flying under the radar, just writing songs for people.
And when I asked people to be on my record,
they didn't just say yeah, they were like, what time,
where do you want me? And then and then sitting
(08:56):
in a studio with all these people it. Really it
was emotional because I realized that I made some really
good friends of this town and I did leave a fingerprint.
I don't know how big of a bootprint I left,
but I definitely let a fingerprint for these people to
come out and support me. So it was it was
healing big time to the song everything.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, you wrote for your wife, Jennifer. Now, when it
comes to songwriting, if you want to write something special
to the person who's special in your life, you want
to be at the top of your game. Yeah, I'm
curious when the song was completed, what was the most
impactful part of the song for the both of you.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's a good question. Well, let me backtrack of why
I wrote that song. First. So, being a songwriter, I
write with Gary Allen. His wife I think has green
eyes or blue eyes. We always put green or blue
in the song for eyes, and Ronnie Janine has blue eyes. Okay,
my wife has brown eyes. So when I come home
(09:59):
and I play I go, honey, I think I wrote
a smash today. Listen to this and she's just like
another blue eyre brown eyed, green eyed song. You never
put brown eyes in a song. My eyes are brown.
I was like but I'm not writing this song for me.
I'm writing for other people. I just wish you would
put brown eyes in a song. So so there. So
I tried to throw brown eyes in every song code
right I did, it got smashed out. And so when
(10:20):
I proposed my wife, I thought she needed a bigger
song than just something that's mentioned brown eyes. So I
wrote her own song and the whole thing and.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now wow her Okay, your nickname for her is baby cakes.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah you've been doing some research.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, what's her nickname for you? For my I call
my wife babe. She calls me a useless sacah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well you know, yeah, well I get that one too.
She used to call me Chewbacca. I kid, No, she said,
I look like Chewbacca when I wake up. I look
like a hybernate and bear because this hair goes anywhere. Yeah,
you got some hair. Yeah, I can't give it up.
It's all sewn to the hat. No, yeah, shell me
Chewbaca forever. Chewie. Yeah, she called me chewy forever. So anyway,
(11:05):
so I wrote the song and I wanted to surprise her.
We got married at Johnny and June's house in Cinnamon
Hill Jamaica and so and Jamie Johnson did the first dance.
It was beautiful, beautiful wedding and John Carter was uh.
He did the ceremony, it was and he did great.
I was worried.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You know this, this has come full circle because if
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
They spent many Christmases.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
When you first moved to town you live.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, yeah, well that I mean. And they really impacted
my life so much that that when I asked my she,
my wife was like, where do you want to get married?
And I was like, I never thought I'd get married.
To be honest with you, I was ready to just
ride off in the sunset and be solo me. But
I said, you know the old place. My mom and
dad were great people, but they got divorced when I
(11:53):
was five. They just couldn't get along. They were great
on their own, but together no good. So I said, well,
I know where conditional love lifts because I saw it.
Because Johnny and June were like little kids. Even in
their late years. I would watch I would watch him
finish each other since it was great.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And he couldn't keep his hands off of her. I know,
in the sweetest way.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Did she go get him a tea and rub his shoulders.
It was awesome. I wish my wife would do that,
and so so I said, you know, I'm to call
John Carter and so we did it out there in Jamaica.
And but I got to play the song for my
wife at the wedding and it's probably the cheesiest thing
(12:32):
ever did, but the most. I mean, she cried and
it was great. And then the labels like, you got
to cut that song. So we cut it, and then
I called Gretchen Wilson, who I've known Gretchen since I
was in college back in Illinois, and so we never
recorded together, even when when Trick Pony, when Heidi had
vocal surgery, I called Gretchen to do all of our
(12:52):
scratch vocals until Heidie got better to sing. And so
I called Gretchen and she's like, it's you know, it's
about time we do something together. So she sang on it.
It's a great song.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Dang, you are so deep in this business. You can
never do anything else.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I can't. I physically can't do anything. It's either this
or where. I just try to stay one hit ahead
of a hairnet. That's my whole goal. That's my goal
in life. Just stay one hit ahead of a hairnet.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's your autobiography.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Disclaimer here, we love those workers in the hairnets to
flip our Burgers and Charlie. Years ago, I was in
that hairnet club working at restaurants. But you know, we
get what he's saying. Iredine is no longer focused on
being a wild man superstar and letting that just take
him down. His life mission is to make music that matters,
(13:44):
and if you ask me, he has accomplished that in
his brand new, just released album that we at Crook
and Chase highly recommend, I Got Roads by Iredeine.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This man is on the right path now. You can
see it in his eyes. He's got a wonderful smile,
a warm personality. We wish him the best.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Those eyes aren't bloodshot anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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Speaker 2 (14:18):
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Chase
Hello again, everybody. Welcome to Crook and Chase National Chest.
(00:02):
Charlie and Loriann here direct from Nashville's world famous music Row.
Where we are, shall we say, surrounded by a lot
of characters, And I say that because they are the
most creative people in the world. I'm talking to songwriters,
the entertainers, and we have a prime example of what
we're talking about today as we visit with Ira Dean.
Now you're probably thinking, well, that sounds familiar. Let me
(00:24):
kind of refurbish your brain a little bit, because Ira
Dean was the flamboyant guy in the Trick Pony group
back in the nineties. He had the stand up bass, guitars,
had headlights on him. Yeah, he's the only one.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So now you know who I'm talking about, right, wild
man of that band for sure. What a dramatic story
he has that you are about to hear about surviving
the music business. Now, this guy has it all. He's
a solo artist. Now he's a singer, hit songwriter, multi instrumentalist,
top notch producer in the studio. What's even more clear,
(01:01):
as Iredeine releases his new star studded album I Got Rhads,
is that Ira well, he has traveled a lot of
difficult and dangerous roads. He is a walking, talking personification
of country music. I'm talking raw, personal, insightful about life
experiences in his music. As he says, ire Deine is
(01:25):
an open book.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We discovered he doesn't hold back. He does not hold
back at all in this conversation we had with him.
He's currently on tour with Brooks and dun you'll see
him on stage playing guitar. But through a lot of
good things happening in his life and big turnarounds, he's
come up with the music project we think you're really
going to enjoy. But first of all, a little history
about Ira, shall we?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Okay, so catches up because you know we were riding
this trick pony thing with you. How do you describe
just the dissolution of trick pony which put you on
a soul path.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You know, we all had when we first got signed,
we all had a vision and somehow once we hit
everybody's vision changed. And I wanted a rock harder, and
Keith wanted to turn into nineteen eighties Alabama, and Heidi
just kind of she wanted to do Lessinda Williams stuff
one minute and then Martina McBride the next, and then
(02:24):
it just kind of you know, forty foot a bus
ain't big enough for three people to get along sometimes,
so I get it. It was like a three way divorce.
But back in the Trick Pony days, I was writing
a lot of songs, you know. I wrote eight on
the first album, seven on the second, and by then
Keith and Heidie didn't want to cut no more my songs.
So but I started getting cuts with Gary Allen Montgomery,
Gentry cut seven or eight of mine, Chris Young and
(02:48):
so I was getting cuts outside the box. And so
when I left Trick Pony, I became a staff writer
again and I had a developmental deal which didn't happen.
But I just started writing stuff for other people and
I had a good little run and then I don't know,
then I ended up producing Aaron Lewis over there for
Big Machine. I did two albums with Aaron and we
(03:11):
got his first number one in twenty two years. We
wrote him I the only one together and it took off.
And that's when Noah Gordon called me from a track
and he's like, when are you going to do an album?
And I was like, if you want to lose money.
I'm your guy, I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Seriously, I mean, you still had your hands in it
very successfully. But did you feel like you were just
kind of done trying to be an artist?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Honestly, Yeah, honestly did I went, You know, I finally
got married after all these years. I never Yeah, I
never been married before. I was always married to music.
I love making music. It's all I've ever done. And
so I finally got married. And I remember telling my wife.
I was like, She's like, do you ever plan on retiring?
(03:55):
And I was like, I think I might already be
and just don't know. You know, I haven't had a
hit in a few years on somebody else. I might
be retired. The industry might have retired me, and I
just don't know yet. And then the Aaron Lewis thing hit,
and then I started getting calls by everybody to write again.
I don't know what happened. It just it just happened.
(04:18):
I have no IDEA good Lord kind of gave me
another he sprinkled some dust on me again.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh well, hey, so not to live in the past.
But you know, you were always the party guy, and
heck you still are. So what are your thoughts about
this new sober second chance that you're experiencing right now.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I was like the designated liver of trick Pony. I
took all the radio guys out and I and I
showed them a great time. But you know, I look
back on my life and every problem I ever had
was somehow tied to alcohol and prescription drugs. And so,
you know, if that's happening to you out there, you know,
(04:57):
I call that a drinking problem. If I every problem
you got, you know, I got tired of waking up
in the county Orange, and so I started out drinking
the whiskey. But little by little it started drinking me,
and it became it convinced me, little by little that
I couldn't do nothing without it. Its goal is to
get you in the darkness by yourself and kill you.
(05:18):
And that was the next stage of my you know,
and I was ready to go. I'll be honest with you,
and I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I looked in the mirror and I prayed, and me
and the man upstairs and the sun got a good relationship. Now,
so how long ago was this? This is My dad
died in seven I climbed in a whiskey bottle for
about five years. So after that, yeah, yeah, his last
words to me, whereas, if you keep drinking, you're gonna
(05:45):
lose everything. That was it, And he was right. I
almost lost everything, including my life. So it took oh yeah, yeah.
Like I said, I had the emotional IQ of a
kindergartener and I didn't want to face that stuff. So
I just self medicated. His switch like twenty eleven something
like that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Whoa, okay, so what flipped the switch?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I didn't want to die. It was just simple as that. Wow.
And plus I wasn't proud of myself. I just became
a guy I did not like I get royalty checks
off of songs. I don't remember writing. I don't remember
being in the room. And so that's a good problem
to have. It's it makes a great rock and roll story.
But I'm sitting there going you're depressed. Yeah, I'm so depressed.
(06:28):
I'm like, maybe I wasn't. Maybe they just screwed up
the name in the corner. But for like a year
and a half, I you know, I would sit in
the rooms, and I know my friends were helping me out,
like David Lee Murphy and Jeffrey Steele and Walling. I know,
because I would apologize after writing writing with her, I'm like, guys, sorry, man,
I'm not on my game. I'm not on my game.
I'm over there shaking and sweating, and uh so they
(06:51):
stuck with me, and I don't know. I just I
quit trying to be so clever and just started writing.
I realized that I can't beat the truth, and I
just write the truth. You know, there's songs on this album.
There's some fun stuff, and I sing about the drinking
times too, but I mean this thing goes deep. I
sing about my drinking years, my sober and up, my
(07:12):
crazy times, my you know, the good, the bad, the ugly,
the broken, the repair, finding my wife, getting married, finally
losing my parents, becoming an orphan, and all that fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Your whole life is in this album. You personally have
called it. I think eye opening and heartwarming. Just the
process of creating this. What was eye opening and heartwarming
for you? I mean, I know that the fact that
so many of your very dear and famous friends in
country music supported this, But even beyond that, what is
(07:47):
eye opening and heartwarming for you?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, if I'm going to be completely honest with myself.
I'm probably the reason I drank so much, I think
was my insecurities. You know, I was a maintenance man
in North Carolina, and then I come to Nashville and
I get signed, and I'm in a room with all
my heroes because I was a huge country fan, and
so I drank, and I drink a lot, and even
(08:12):
though people thought I had a big ego, I was
the most. I had the biggest ego and the biggest
insecurities in the room. And that's a bad mixture for
a drunk. And so I thought maybe throughout those years,
you know, you spend your whole life, well I did
in this town, hoping to god, I just left a
small fingerprint, you know, like I mattered, and I didn't
(08:34):
think I did. And you know, I thought maybe I
burned every bridge that possibly a man could burn. And
so when it got time to make this record, you know,
i'd been flying under the radar, just writing songs for people.
And when I asked people to be on my record,
they didn't just say yeah, they were like, what time,
where do you want me? And then and then sitting
(08:56):
in a studio with all these people it. Really it
was emotional because I realized that I made some really
good friends of this town and I did leave a fingerprint.
I don't know how big of a bootprint I left,
but I definitely let a fingerprint for these people to
come out and support me. So it was it was
healing big time to the song everything.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, you wrote for your wife, Jennifer. Now, when it
comes to songwriting, if you want to write something special
to the person who's special in your life, you want
to be at the top of your game. Yeah, I'm
curious when the song was completed, what was the most
impactful part of the song for the both of you.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's a good question. Well, let me backtrack of why
I wrote that song. First. So, being a songwriter, I
write with Gary Allen. His wife I think has green
eyes or blue eyes. We always put green or blue
in the song for eyes, and Ronnie Janine has blue eyes. Okay,
my wife has brown eyes. So when I come home
(09:59):
and I play I go, honey, I think I wrote
a smash today. Listen to this and she's just like
another blue eyre brown eyed, green eyed song. You never
put brown eyes in a song. My eyes are brown.
I was like but I'm not writing this song for me.
I'm writing for other people. I just wish you would
put brown eyes in a song. So so there. So
I tried to throw brown eyes in every song code
right I did, it got smashed out. And so when
(10:20):
I proposed my wife, I thought she needed a bigger
song than just something that's mentioned brown eyes. So I
wrote her own song and the whole thing and.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now wow her Okay, your nickname for her is baby cakes.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah you've been doing some research.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, what's her nickname for you? For my I call
my wife babe. She calls me a useless sacah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well you know, yeah, well I get that one too.
She used to call me Chewbacca. I kid, No, she said,
I look like Chewbacca when I wake up. I look
like a hybernate and bear because this hair goes anywhere. Yeah,
you got some hair. Yeah, I can't give it up.
It's all sewn to the hat. No, yeah, shell me
Chewbaca forever. Chewie. Yeah, she called me chewy forever. So anyway,
(11:05):
so I wrote the song and I wanted to surprise her.
We got married at Johnny and June's house in Cinnamon
Hill Jamaica and so and Jamie Johnson did the first dance.
It was beautiful, beautiful wedding and John Carter was uh.
He did the ceremony, it was and he did great.
I was worried.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You know this, this has come full circle because if
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
They spent many Christmases.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
When you first moved to town you live.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, yeah, well that I mean. And they really impacted
my life so much that that when I asked my she,
my wife was like, where do you want to get married?
And I was like, I never thought I'd get married.
To be honest with you, I was ready to just
ride off in the sunset and be solo me. But
I said, you know the old place. My mom and
dad were great people, but they got divorced when I
(11:53):
was five. They just couldn't get along. They were great
on their own, but together no good. So I said, well,
I know where conditional love lifts because I saw it.
Because Johnny and June were like little kids. Even in
their late years. I would watch I would watch him
finish each other since it was great.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And he couldn't keep his hands off of her. I know,
in the sweetest way.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Did she go get him a tea and rub his shoulders.
It was awesome. I wish my wife would do that,
and so so I said, you know, I'm to call
John Carter and so we did it out there in Jamaica.
And but I got to play the song for my
wife at the wedding and it's probably the cheesiest thing
(12:32):
ever did, but the most. I mean, she cried and
it was great. And then the labels like, you got
to cut that song. So we cut it, and then
I called Gretchen Wilson, who I've known Gretchen since I
was in college back in Illinois, and so we never
recorded together, even when when Trick Pony, when Heidi had
vocal surgery, I called Gretchen to do all of our
(12:52):
scratch vocals until Heidie got better to sing. And so
I called Gretchen and she's like, it's you know, it's
about time we do something together. So she sang on it.
It's a great song.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Dang, you are so deep in this business. You can
never do anything else.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I can't. I physically can't do anything. It's either this
or where. I just try to stay one hit ahead
of a hairnet. That's my whole goal. That's my goal
in life. Just stay one hit ahead of a hairnet.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's your autobiography.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Disclaimer here, we love those workers in the hairnets to
flip our Burgers and Charlie. Years ago, I was in
that hairnet club working at restaurants. But you know, we
get what he's saying. Iredine is no longer focused on
being a wild man superstar and letting that just take
him down. His life mission is to make music that matters,
(13:44):
and if you ask me, he has accomplished that in
his brand new, just released album that we at Crook
and Chase highly recommend, I Got Roads by Iredeine.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This man is on the right path now. You can
see it in his eyes. He's got a wonderful smile,
a warm personality. We wish him the best.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Those eyes aren't bloodshot anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No they're not. They're clear as a bell. Friends, we
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