Dr. Perry Discusses Various Ways of Protecting Your Skin

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what.
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
The public doesn't get a damn.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
And I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
He goes, yeah, look at your face.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
We're going to do with your fan. What can you
do with his face?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I go like that, I s what I got.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I go and look at this.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm getting old.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I said, I want to maybe get fix it up
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here, Ark, and I
want to get to plugged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to talk.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
To Arthur Perry the best in plastic.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
Surgery, workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivering content
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
Media smart as a really really gifted position. I want
to pay you the highest truth I can give to
a surgeon, which is when people come to you, they
don't come for an operation, they come for an opinion.
And that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeons nine two and zero bows to
this guide and welcome. This is board certified plastic surgeon,
doctor Arthur Perry, and this is what's your wrinkle right
here on wo R. I hope you're having a great
weekend in December. It's freezing out there. I've got a

(01:29):
very very special treat for you tonight. Besides talking about
all sorts of things in cosmetic surgery, I've got a
former co host back in the saddle, Susan Wara. Oh
my goodness, I am so happy to have you. Do
you know how many emails and phone calls I have received?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Many?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Where is Susan? And she's back and we are broadcasting live.
She is she broadcasting from the the Hampton's and the
cold Hamptons this weekend and those of you who are
listening in Florida. Yeah, well, you know, it's cold in
New York.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
All right, it's beautiful in New York. It's Christmas season.
It's crisp, it's cold, it's beautiful. It's one of my
favorite times of year.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
My toes are cold. All right. Well, I'm glad you
like it, Susan. I'm a little cold here, that's right.
So you know this is we're finishing up twenty twenty four,
and we are we're broadcasting live on w R We're
also podcasting this. You listen to the podcast all the time,
don't you. Susan straight talk about cosmetic surgery. I hope

(02:40):
you're all signing up. If every one of you sixteen
million people listening tonight signed up for my podcast, you
do it on Apple podcasts or iHeart podcasts, whatever, sign up,
that would be a great thing for me. That's my
Christmas or Hannick president, right, yeah, I had to do that.

(03:00):
We'll talk about more about the podcast in a few minutes,
but the show I have planned for you with Susan
Warner is a. Really it's going to be an award winner. Oh,
that's right. We're going to talk about nipple in larger.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
This is we're of the show.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's right. So we're going to talk about making nipples larger. Uh,
both for reconstruction, but more importantly right now, for cosmetic reasons.
We're going to talk about that. It's kind of an
interesting topic. We're going to talk about more, Susan. We're
going to talk about lightning nipples. How about if you're
your A REALA are too dark? We're going to talk

(03:40):
about that.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
We're also going to talk a little bit about we'll
get to the ozempic face issues that we Oh you're
bored with you to talk about the nipples. Well it's
not so much. All right, Well, we'll talk about all
those things, but mostly we're gonna take your phone calls.
Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten is the

(04:04):
phone number here at wo R eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten. Give me a call. We'll send
you a bottle of soft Times. Susan loves soft time.
Soft Time is that great moisturizer with do you know
the key ingredient in soft time?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Susan moisturizer.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah right, okay, saramides, seramonion, those saramie No, it's Fido's fingers.
She's in a rare mood tonight, folks. She's back in
the saddle and we are gonna have fun this evening,
all right. So saramides are very important part of skincare

(04:42):
and of moisturizers. All right, Susan, we're on the radio here,
you have you know, she's just laughing, she's cooking, she's
doing everything today, all right, So we we hold our
cells together with seramides. And but the one that's hard
to say, Susan, fidos fingus scene.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Easy fingus scene, Fido's fingus scene.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, these are very very expensive and important ingredients in skin,
in moisturizers, besides umectans, which are things like haluronic acid
and fatty acids, believe it or not, squalen and olive
oil and safflower oil. That's what I put in. It's
a really high end moisturizer and it's really good. Right now,

(05:28):
put it on your hands. Look how chap these hands
can get. Right, you put them on your hand, Put
it on your hand, slathered on, slathering on your face,
around your lips. And in this very very cold winter
that we're about to face with forty feet of snow
in New York, well that's buffalo. Well yeah, then you'll
be protected. All right. The board is already lighting up.

(05:51):
We've got We've got Sondra on the line. Sondra, what
can I do for you? What's your wrinkle?

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Well, speaking of saft Time, having a Haneka party at
the end of the month, and I didn't know what
would be a good gift to give all my guests,
men and women, and I decided, since I love all
your products, I felt soft Time would be the best
gift gift to give. So that's what I'm giving. I'm
very excited. I brought my little bags today and I'm

(06:19):
going to wrap every single one of them up. I
have about fifteen of them, I know, So I'm very excited.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
About that gift to give your friends.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
I know, and to the men needed just as much
as the women. And there you go. So that's all settled.
So I just wanted to give you an update on
the Moles. Stop doctor Barrett.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Noah, do you have the the continuing moles drum roll
sing it? Noah, Noah's going he's got an intro play.
All right. We for those of you who have been
listening over the last few months, we've been talking with
Sondra about a mole and uh and we talked before
the mall was removed, we talked right after the mall

(07:08):
was removed, and now Sondra give us an update on
the mole.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Okay, So my friend is so delighted with the results.
She has another one on the other eyebrow, and she
decided after the new year she will go ahead and
remove that one. But it was quote to her attention
by you that she has these tiny little capillaries under
you know, her nose where you don't really see them,
and maybe a couple under her chin, and you discussed

(07:37):
removing them. So she wanted me to get an better
understanding of what that entails. So that's my wrinkle for today.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay, your wrinkle then, is not the mall, but which
we know.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
We're happy with.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
The capillaries, Yes, the capillaries of your friend who who
has been coming into the office to have the Holy
Moly treemn Yes. So all right, So what she has
is that she's got some capillaries around her nose. So
base of her. No, so many people do. By the way,

(08:13):
you know these are you.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Tread a friend of mine who you did a beautiful
job on his.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Clapularies clappolari, Yes, Susan, have you have you cracked open
that bottle of wine yet? Sorry? All right, all right,
so my co host and talking about clapularies. Those capillaries
around the nose, they're very, very common and on the cheeks.
A lot of people have roseatia, which is a condition

(08:40):
of the cheeks and nose. It's the full name of
that is acne rosetia because it's characterized by postules and
things like that. But a lot of people just get
they just get the capillaries and they get a flushed
face after they eat, drank alcohol or take spicy spicy
food and things like that. And what I do is

(09:01):
I use what's called a YAG laser y a G.
I'm not going to tell you what the YAG stands
for because it's a big, big chemical term. So, but
it's the YAG laser and it's real easy to do.
It's one of the very few things in plastic surgery
that I do and you see the result immediately by
the time you get to the counter to check out

(09:23):
from the office. You look in the mirror and you say, wow,
those capillaries are gone. And I can use this laser
on the face. You know. I did this on Doctor
Oz Live on The Oz Show, and you know, he
it feels like someone snapping a little tiny rubber band
against your cheek, you know, not bad, very tolerable. He

(09:44):
didn't like it. But it's easy, and I can zap
those blood vessels, the reddish ones and the kind of
bluish ones on the face makes you look a lot better,
it really does. So that's what we're gonna do. Takes,
you know, depending on how many you have in your face,
takes fifteen to twenty minutes, sometimes thirty minutes. I can
also do these, by the way, on the legs. You know,

(10:06):
a lot of people have these little spider veins on
the legs, and the laser is a really nice way
to go. Do you have those, Susan no, no, as
she said that fast, she doesn't want the laser, but
it's a great way to go. It's a YAG laser.
And we're going to talk about an interesting use of
the YAG laser in a couple minutes. Also, not having
to do with the capillaries. So your friend, miss Mole,

(10:30):
who had one mole taken off her eyebrow, and the
secret to that, by the way, is removing it and
keeping the brow intact. And I have seen jobs by dermatologists,
sorry my colleagues, and by general surgeons taking off moles
in places that are cosmetically sensitive, like the eyebrows. I've

(10:51):
seen terrible jobs where there's bald areas of the eyebrow
and maligned. That means they're misaligned eyebrows. Uh yeah, so
uh so those are the things that can happen. I
don't do that. I do a nice job, as you
have now seen.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Right, Sondra, Absolutely, Doctor Terry, I can't even find where
the mole ever was. That's how that is the honest supidness. Yeah,
it's I don't even I don't even know where it was.
So I said to my friend, go for the other one.
Why not, really, right, will have two nice, perfect eyebrows.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
So yes, so we've discussed that. Doctor Perry did one
on the side of my face. You can't see anything.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
When I first met Yeah, she had this mole on
her cheek. I said, you need to get get that
and she said, I don't even see it. And I said, Susan,
if you're going to be the co host, that has
to come off. So there it went.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
That's great. Yeah, doctor Terry, you are an artist and
people have to know that. You know you're an.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Artist, and get Well said absolutely.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Yeah, well thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And you know, sometimes those little things, you know, in
plastic surgery we talk about facelifts. I love doing facelifts
and either lifts and rhinoplasts and the big things breast surgery.
But sometimes it's just these little things that make such
a big difference. You know, when someone has unsightly moles
on their face, and so many people go through life
they kind of forget about them. You look in the

(12:29):
mirror and you don't even see that mole or that
chicken pox scar or something, because you know, your brain
doesn't waste a lot of energy on something that.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
But you're right, the eye is drawn to it when
you look at someone's face. Oh yeah, But to that point,
I don't know if if this is common knowledge, but
you should also are an artist in repairing basil cell
on the face.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, and that's something that I do for people. So
if you have a basil cell. We have one. I
have one coming up in a couple of weeks, right
after Christmas holiday. A woman is going to her moe's doctor,
her most dermatologist and having a basil cell carcinoma removed
from her forehead. And I will be then reconstructing it.

(13:13):
And also I saw a doctor just a couple of
days ago. Boy, he was so upset because he's got
a basil cell carcinoma of the nasal a love. Do
you know what?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
That is the side of the fold.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Right, and that is the most difficult area of the
face to reconstruct. And boy, tell you he's got a
fairly large one.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
You will take care of it.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
I will take care of it. We'll send him first
we go to the mos Dermatologists. That's a dermatologist I
work with in Manhattan, who will remove the basil cell
and remove as little as possible. And then I'll do
the fancy folks patios.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Actually walk from the surgeon who removes it to your office.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Correct, Yeah, yeah, her office is only a couple of
walks from you. Just walk over, yep, you know, with
a band of john. First, get a meal and then
come on over and we'll put things back together. So yeah,
I love doing those things. It's angel well, it's a
lot of fun. There's a great artistry in putting things

(14:10):
back together after someone's taken something off of your face.
So I do all those things also. So Susan, well, Sondra,
thank you. Have I answered all your questions by the way.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
You have, so I wish you and Susan are happy holidays.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well, thank you very much. And hopefully global warming will
come back and it'll warm up here. And we don't
want to say that's politically incorrect to say that you
want global warming. I just want it to be warmer here,
all right, thanks so much, Sondra is a pleasure.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Okay, you know, no, let's let's go ahead and take
our first break, and when we come back, we're gonna
talk all about nipples. We're gonna free the nipple. We're
gonna talk about making them bigger and maybe smaller and
lightening them, and yeah, it's nipple night here on wo R.
And I'm bored plastic surgeon doctor Arthur Perry Cindia. And
we also have to talk about Susan's book because I

(15:06):
want you to buy her book. So when we come
back from our break. We'll talk about that. Eight hundred
and three to two one zero seven ten is a
phone number. We'll be right back. Did you know that
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(15:26):
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Speaker 7 (16:25):
You're listening to What's Your Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
What's Your Wrinkle?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Hide it jumping and we are back. I'm board certified
classic serchon doctor Arthur Perry, host of What's Your Wrinkle
right here on WOR. Yeah, we were getting a little
fading in and out of the signal. That's okay, we
can we can hear you and hopefully WOR here's all right.
So we we take phone calls on this show, and

(16:52):
the phone numbers eight hundred and three to two, one zero
seven ten. And those of you who are listening for
the very first time, where have you been? Nineteen? You
were in our twenty season here at wo R And
it's a call in show on a board certified plastic surgeon.
I've trained at some pretty good places at Cornell, at Harvard,
at University Chicago, I teach at Columbia now, and I

(17:14):
teach at Rutgers. And that's who I am. And I
have offices right here in Manhattan on the corner of
eighty fifth Street and Park.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Avenue, and one beautiful office.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Thank you, and you help design it.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
So it's just beautiful.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, it's really very nice. And the Lasers live here now.
And so we still have the office. Yeah, come see me.
We have the office in Somerset, New Jersey. But yeah,
this is what I do during the weekend. On weekends.
Susan just loves this radio show every Saturday evening.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Right, Yeah, when I'm available, I'd love to listen.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
All right, So we talk about all sorts of things
on the show. We talk about facelifts and wrinkles and
sagging breasts and things like that. But one of the
things we don't talk too much about is nipple augmentation,
you know, and it's come up because I've talked about
this a little bit in the past. In breast reconstruction

(18:14):
after cancer, you know, we do nipple reconstructions also. So
just for to make things clear, the definition is the nipple,
of course, is the center portion of the breast, and
the arella some people pronounce it ariola is the pigmented
area around the nipple. Okay, So that's for definitions. Now,

(18:35):
in breast reconstruction, we recreate the arela, and we can
do that now with tattooing. We can do it with
all sorts of surgical techniques also, but the center part
should be raised, and an ideal nipple should be under
ten millimeters somewhere about six millimeters projection off of the

(18:59):
off of the breast. And what's happened very recently is
that a lot of attention has been given to nipple
projection because people like our favorite, the Kardashians, your favorite,
you know, they seem to be setting these trends in
plastic surgery for better for worse people. Yeah, I guess
They've got fifty or sixty million followers on Instagram, so

(19:22):
people tend to follow what they do. And of course,
which Kardashian has the skims? Yeah, she's got skims?

Speaker 4 (19:31):
And which is a genius line?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well, I don't I'm telling you it is. Okay, all right,
I'll believe you. Kim, you should advertise on this show,
don't you think of any Yeah for sure, sure. But
one of the bras that she has has nipple projections
built into it. So it's really pretty interesting. From a
sociologic it is interesting.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
And I've seen the evolution of covering up to projection,
and I get it. I get it. I think where
I would think in total modesty years ago now I
think it's sexy. So I get it. I think nipple
projection is sexy.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well it is, it actually is, And.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I would be of the person that would have told
you ten fifteen years ago.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah. Yeah, So people are now asking for more nipple
projection because they want to show their nipple projection in
clothing and in bathing suits and in a bra. And
so now people who have very little nipple projection are
asking for it. Is that interesting and it's an easy

(20:36):
thing to do now. So the way I do it
is with higuronic acid. With that filler that I use
for wrinkles of the face that I use for all
sorts of things to build up chins and cheeks and
lips and things like that, Well we can take that
very same rest lane or one of those other fillers
and inject it into the nipple. So a lot of

(20:59):
women have kind of flat nipples. They don't really have
a much projection off of their off of their arela.
And again the ideal is somewhere between four and six
millimeters of projection off of the nipple off of the
arella rather, and so I can so easily create that.
It's one of the simple things in about a half

(21:21):
an hour, about fifteen minutes each side. I take one
syringe of rest a lane and I numb it up
with First, we'll use something like em LA cream to
get that numb, and you might want more numbing, depends
on how sensitive you are, and I think Susan you
said it would probably take a lot of numbing.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Right, Well, let's talk about that before you move forward
in that how sensitive I mean, that area is very
sensitive and how much discomfort is there?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Well, I'm very gentle, no, no.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Doubt about that, but I guess you would have to
numb it first with a topical and then take the
injection because that is a sensitive area.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yes, but it is actually fairly easy for someone that
knows what they're doing to numb it up with lightikan.
So and in this location, you know, we put some
almlo cream on first and that numbs the skin, and
then I go through the skin with a little tiny
needle what's called a thirty gates, a very small one,
and I numb up with lightikan with epinephrin and it

(22:23):
does a really good job. And so then I can
go ahead because I do all sorts of procedures on
nipples and certainly remove things from the aurella, remove moles
around the nipple, no problem, numbing it up. We'll do
nipple enlargements with the filler, will do nipple reductions. Yeah,
we can do that. We'll talk about that. Well, let's

(22:46):
talk about that. I I'll go ahead and talk about
that now. The way we do it. So if a
nipple is over projecting, which does happen really some people.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
And non.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Stimulated, that's correct. Yeah, there are women that have really
big nipples, really yeah, and so they'll ask for those
to be made smaller. And what I do is I
remove kind of like a little donut. Let me let
me see. No, wait a minute, she says, I'm the
co host, don't do that, but the the donut, I

(23:19):
make a little donut, drawing it for her around the
base of the nipple and remove a cuff of skin
and then so that kind of collapse it back down.
So that's for the height. So we don't want to
nipple more than about eight millimeters off of the off
of the arela. And also a nipple should not be
more than about maybe six eight maximum ten millimeters in diameter.

(23:45):
So if the diameter is too big, susan. Then we'll
take a wedge out of it also, so there's all
sorts of thing. Of course, there's going to be stitches.
I mean it's a little bit of le we put
stitches in and and in this location we can use
dissolving stitches or we can use derma bond or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
You shouldn't discount women who have had messt ectomies, who
have had nipples removed can also have nipples made, yes and.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Altered, altered, and so that's that's kind of a whole
different idea, but it's there.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
It's another there are a lot of women out there
who have had messedectomies who don't have nipples and have
had them made and may want them made more with
a greater projection.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, So there are different types of mass dectomies. Of course,
there's in the newer ones now if if it's possible,
if your medical situation allows it, it's called a nipple
sparing mass eectomy. So they keep the nipple, but you
do lose a fair amount of projection, uh, even in
that operation. So if you have a nipple sparing mass ectomy,
often you'll need some huronic acid to prop up the

(24:51):
nipple afterwards. But a lot of women if their nipple
and arela is taken completely in a breast in a
massed ectomy, and they'll have a reconstruction. And there's a lot
of different ways to do it. Some of them are
very complex. There are flaps, there are skin graps, but
some people don't have any of those. They just have

(25:12):
a really good tattoo artist, and these are specialized usually nurses. Uh.
And it's a different practice than those storefront places with.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
The you know when in New York, if any of
your listeners want to know, she's.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Extraordinary, had to give her name if.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
You like, I'd have to look at Sorry it's it's
Sailor Institute, Solar Institute. Yeah, sorry, s a u L. E.
R Institute. That's wonderful.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
And they do these three dimensional tattoos, you know, they
put different colored pigments in. They reproduce what's called the
Montgomery glen. Those are the little lens that the child
latches onto. A lot of people don't know why there
are the Montgomery glens. Those are it's like the little
the little piles. Well they look like little yeah, but

(25:57):
they're the purpose is for a child to latch onto.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
You don't know that, I mean women don't know that.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, they give a little more grip to the the arela,
just like a basketball, you know, basketball, if it's smooth,
it can't be gripped little tiny nipples, that's right. So
the tattoo artists can create a three dimensional structure. But
then we will take the very same tattooed areala nipple

(26:25):
and give it some actual projection with this holuronic acid.
So it's really kind of a it's a new area.
It's an interesting area and very straightforward. Now you might
ask how long does it last? And that's a good question, Susan,
thanks for asking. She didn't ask what I did. But
it lasts anywhere from a year to two years, and

(26:46):
so you'll have to go ahead and do it over
and over again. But you do get a little growth
of the nipple each time it's done. Just like anywhere
that we inject filler, there's some permanence to it. We
get about twenty percent of the result as permanent. So
we're gonna take a short break and that we're gonna
come back and talk more about nipple esthetics and things

(27:08):
that we can do to make your nipples look as
good as possible and as sexy as possible.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Let's also talk about change us in nipples for women.

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Hop over and over and over again over now.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
When I listened to you know, Conan O'Brien and the
other great podcast and your podcast. Yep, yeah, they're all good,
all right. And while we're talking about Susan Warner, tell
us a little bit about your book, which won a
what was that award?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Absolutely nothing?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well it should it.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Should, Never Say Never, Never Say Always. It's a book
about recovery from profound grief, how to live your best life.
I will say, if you have endured, and we all have,
from a dog to a child, to a spouse, to
a parent to a friend we've lost, I think it's
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(30:19):
move forward without moving on. And I implore you to
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and read it and please reach out to me if
you want to comment. You can reach find to me
at Susan Warner zero two at gmail and I'd love
to see your comments. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
And there it is. That's right, and it's a really
great book and it's a short read. It'll take you
four hours. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
So if you like audio books, I'm the read.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yep. It is one flight to la one flight to London. Yep.
You can read the entire book and it is really good.
I've given it and told so many patients who have
had loss.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I've had such great feedback. Yeah, I would like to
get to some legs. If anybody wants to help me
make this into a treatment, so I could get it
streaming on Netflix or Prime, I would be up for
that too. I would like to make it a treatment.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yes. So those of you out there who are movie producers,
Susan is looking for somebody that's right and this it'll
make a great movie. And Tom Cruise.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Said, no, Tom Cruise, he's too short for you.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
And anyway, there isn't a chapter on radio.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
No, No, I think I saw my picture in the moment. Okay,
all right, so nipples. We're talking nipples tonight, Susan.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
We're freeing that nipple.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
We're freeing the nipple. And yes, so finally people are
acknowledging that nipples exist.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, you know, I have friends that have several complaints
about their nipples. One is they're too large. Friends that
have had reductions also where the surgeon did not make
it make the areel smaller, and they look kind of freaky,
and I think that can be addressed. Maybe you can
talk about that. And also I have women who complain
about the nipples are too dark. A lot of women
don't like the darkness. So can you do anything about that?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I sure can.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
So.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
First of all, the size of the areala so different
from the nipple. So now we were talking about increasing
the projection of the nipple or making the actual nipple smaller.
Of course that's the center part in the arella. But
the arella, the aurella, is often too large, and when
we do a breast reduction, we are supposed to make

(32:28):
the arella smaller. And believe it or not, there are
proper measurements for what an areala should be. And you
know the way they do this. They take like a
hundred students at the University of Pennsylvania's always at the
University of Pennsylvania. It really is actually the Center for
Human Appearance there. They've done a lot of these studies

(32:49):
and I know the plastic surgeons and psychiatrists that have
been involved in these studies and they'll take one hundred
women who are considered to have attractive breasts and they'll say, Okay,
you know, you get twenty five dollars. Let me measure
your areela. Believe it or not. That's how it's done.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
For twenty five bucks. Why not?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, why not to lose? Yes. So, so it turns
out that the ideal ariela is somewhere around four centimeters
in diameter. How's that? Okay, yeah, there you go. So
if you're a real if you get a ruler out,
I can argue that measure your reala and it's bigger.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
And if someone watches you do that, it's got to
be a little off. You know.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well, you do it in the privacy of your home hown, hopefully,
except for the fact in New York it's entirely legal.
In the state of New York. You may show your
nipples anytime you want. That's the law in this state.
It's true.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
It is true.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Remember because of that that court ruling about fifteen years
ago or so. All right, So anyway, if you decide
that your a reala are way too big, we can
reduce those. It's usually done at the same time as
a breast reduction.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
But if it's not, can it be done independently?

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yes it can, Yes, you can so so and it
can be done under local anesthesia. You said it's gonna hurt.
You know, it's pretty easy to numb up that area
and uh, and you know it takes too.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
With some women are very self conscious about that.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, to do an areal.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Uh, will you lose sensation?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
You should not. Oh, that's good, you should not because
we're only removing the skin around the arelas so we do.
It's it's what it is. It's actually called a doughnut
master pexy. That's actually the name of the operation that
do men do that as well? I've never done that
in the man. Never done that, man, you know, I

(34:39):
mean there are men.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
With like really huge nipples. I wonder if it bothers them.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I don't know. That's a good question. So I've done
want to call on that one. Yeah, I've done. It's
called gynico masty and a man the the growth of
men's breasts, which as I predict, will be enormous. Field
in a few years ago because of the legalization of marijuana,
because that is the number one drug that causes breast

(35:05):
growth growth in men, So you're gonna have a lot
of gyanocomasitia in men and they'll be coming in. So
what happens when we reduce the size of the breast
and basically do a mastectomy through a little incision in
men and I do lip a suction of the perimeter,
the ariella shrinks markedly in size just by not putting

(35:26):
it on stretch anymore. So that's what we do there.
In a woman, it's a donut mass depexia. I make
an incision within the border of the arella, about four
centimeters in diameter, and then I make another concentric a
lot of math here incision around it, depending on you know,

(35:46):
if I just want to remove arella, or if I
want to remove some skin also and tighten the breast.
So I remove that skin. And the key thing is
we don't go deep here. We go deep enough just
to lift the skin and put stitches in underneath and
dissolving stitches underneath. We don't want to go deep and
interrupt the nerves to the nipple, so we want to

(36:08):
maintain the sensation to the nipple. We also, by the way,
if we do this, we should be able to maintain
the ability to breastfeed. So whenever you operate, whenever I operate,
whenever anyone operates on a nipple or a breast, there's
always that very small chance of losing sensation and losing
the chance to breastfeed. But we should not, so that's

(36:31):
the good news. So reducing the size of the reela
should be pretty straightforward. And even if you've had a
breast reduction, if your a reela are still big, easy
to go back through the same scars. We don't have
to add additional scars any recovery on that, you could
go back to work the next day.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
But how about exercise.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, I always recommend whenever we do any surgery where
we're lifting tissue, give it a couple weeks off of exercise.
We don't want your blood pressure going up. We don't
want your heart rate going up because if you do,
if it does, then you could bleed into the area
and that's not good and that could cause infection, it
could cause worse scars. So you have to respect the operation,

(37:13):
respect the nipple, Susan, and respect the operation. All right.
So the other question you asked was can you lighten
dark nipples right? And you know something, it's really interesting.
You have the poignant questions for the show, which is
why you should always come back as the guest host.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Just know what women talk about?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, well, you know, so lightning the areal. It's interesting
because women have a very large spectrum of colors for
your areala. Some women have such light areala that you
can hardly see them. They're just sort of a little
bit pinker than the skin. Others have a very distinct

(38:00):
brownish color to the arella, and some people have a
fade in where the aurella. Some people have a very
precise border. So there's a lot of variation. But what
you want, you know, is something that plastic surgeons think
a lot about, and lightening the arella is something we
can do, and the way we do it, there's different ways.

(38:22):
If it depends if there's a lot of brown pigmentation.
We can do a TCA peel of the aurella, so
that's something that's pretty effective in reducing color. Or we
can use the lat Yag laser that we talked about
earlier in the show. The Yag laser is it's very
quick and we kind of kind of cook the the

(38:43):
pigment out of the arela, but we have to be
careful because we don't want scarring. So it's a treatment
that we do every two to four weeks for about
six sessions, so it takes a while, and then we
significantly lighten the color of the areas.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
That permanent.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It should, yeah, the laser should be permanent. The TCA
peel is not permanent. That's the thing, because the laser
actually discs and there's.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
No danger to the nipple, right, Well.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
There's going to be some blistering.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, but there's no it wouldn't do anything permanent.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
In terms of breastfeeding, in terms of what yeah, you
should still be able to breastfeed. I mean, look, whenever
we do these things, there's a small chance of infection.
Infection could lead to scarring, a scar could lead to
inability to breastfeed. So there's a little bit of a risk,
but it's not high. So we should be able to
do this. So you know where this is. As I

(39:36):
was preparing for this, I was interested to see where
this is so popular. Do you know the country?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
I would think it's Asia?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
You're so perceptive. Maybe I told you Singapore, Malaysia. Those
are the countries where there's so much of this. There
are these clinics.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Remember how important, like in Korea, skin lightning is and
then how fair where skin is, and then the contrasts
could be offensive to people. Yeah, that's my guess.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Well, but you know, so I don't really know the
culture of, you know, exposing the breasts in those countries
like we do in the United States. We know, like
in France, Germany, where nudity is a little bit more acceptable,
I don't I honestly don't know in the Far East.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
But if it's nudity or itself appreciation, remember you're the
one that says that people should do it for themselves correct,
not necessarily to show it off.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah. So, so there's all sorts of things that we
can do, Susan. We can make nipples look bigger, we
can make nipples look smaller, and we can change the
color of nipples. We can make them lighter. And I
suppose there are people that would want if they have
very very light arela. I suppose there are people that

(40:52):
would go the other direction.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I don't think so. I think I think more women
consider lighter, prettier. Okay, that's a guess, but in my estimation.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
That I'll bet there are some women that have there
are real tattooed I don't think so. Okay, well, maybe
you can call the show if you if you are
one of those women. Yeah, or you have an opinion
called show, or you have an opinion, give me your opinion.
Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten is the
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Speaker 7 (43:53):
You're listening to What's Your Wrinkle with doctor Arthur Perry.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
What's Your Wrinkle?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
And we're back on boord by plastic surgeon doctor Arthur Perry,
host of What's Your Wrinkle, host of straight talk about
cosmetic surgery, and very good friend of What's Your Name?
My co host, Susan Warner is sitting here in the
Hamptons and her pithy comments and interesting comments.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
That's funny that we met up in the Hamptons.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, isn't that funny? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
I wouldn't have been on if I hadn't seen you
today in the Hampton's.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yep, it's just one of those weird coincidences here. People
are gonna talk Susan. Okay, all right, anyway, Amazon Amazon,
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so you know who Taylor Swift is.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I do.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I think most people do. Although the demographic in my
listening audience, I think my average listener is like ninety three. No, no, no,
But I have an older population listening to me. You know.
I had someone about forty a few weeks ago. Completely
messed up my demographics, you know. But Taylor Swift is

(46:25):
thirty five years old. She's the hottest thing in music.
She's the biggest singer of all time? Is that? Would
that be a reasonable statement. I think she's sold more
record they have records anymore? No, no, whatever, it is
the songs, yeah whatever. Anyway, The reason I'm talking about
Taylor's Swift is because apparently. Now I don't know this

(46:50):
for a fact, but rumor has it out there that
she had a blefheroplasty. Now I looked at the photographs
that have been circulating on the end, and it looks
to me like she's had an upper blefroplasty. Oh my,
oh my goodness, thirty five. Oh my, that's a good thing,
thank you, Taylor Swift. Excellent. You know, because it's because

(47:12):
when someone like I wish you would come out of
the closet though and say, yeah, I had my eyelids done,
big deal. Yeah I didn't like that fullness of my
upper deal is right, It's always amazing, you know, I
have had I've talked about all my things, all my
medical things on this show.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
You know, Well, you'll you open up like the book.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
I talked about my testoster.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Sure you do. You open up like a book. But
to that point, as Sarah Jessica Parker said, like, everybody's
entitled to do what they want to do, and having
her eyes done is nothing criminal. I don't know why
the media is getting so twisted.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
About it, and they are, and people deny and everything.
So if you look at the pictures, you say, well,
she's only thirty five. She doesn't have the changes of
aging I've done. I think my youngest blephoplasty was like
twenty one years old. And because some people are just
born with extra skin of their upper lids, that is
full and fat of the upper lids, and it just
makes them look puffy and they you know, they're a

(48:11):
white deal. It's not a big deal. So a blepheroplast
is a great operation. I do it, and people in
their twenties and thirties and forties, if you're comfortable for it.
The peak years for blepheroplastis and that's an island.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
The bluffs blefs as well them.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
That's right. I saw a license plate blef. I imagine
that was a plastic seren probably or either that or
someone bluff Johnny Bleff. All right. So so the bleff
is a an eyelid left, and there's the upper Bleff.
That's the upper islands. A lot of people think, well,

(48:44):
you only have two islands. You actually have four eyelids.
You have listened to this show, so you can do
it upper Bleff and a lower bluff. But the honest
truth is for the younger people, it's usually the upper
eyelids that we do, so it's under local anesthesias. One
the operations I love to do Blefer plastis. Really I
did one when I was a resident on CNN, very

(49:08):
nervous Coast to coast. When I was I had done
like a few at the time, so it was really
scary to operate in front of millions of people. But
since then I've done so many, you know, thousands of
Leffer plastis, and I love doing the operation. It's a
very satisfying procedure because it changes your appearance and it's
extremely low risk. It really is. So whether you're thirty

(49:30):
and just have that fullness of your upper lids, or
you're seventy and you can't see because you've got so
much skin hanging onto your eyelashes that you blink more often.
Let me see your eye. Oh they're beautiful, Susan.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Okay, I've had them done.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Oh they see Susan talks about.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
These things absolutely.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah. So, so the Bleffer plasty is a procedure where
I numb you up, so we do an under sedation
ivy sedation. Now, it is technically possible to do this
under straight local antesesion, but I would do that accepting
people who I've operated on in the past, and I
know them and I know they're not going to faint,

(50:13):
and I know they're not going to hit me or
something like that in the out or swear, and they'll
behave themselves in the operating room. So so, but usually
it's under sedation, and I like to do it that
way as opposed to general anesthesia because the risks are
actually lower if you are awake, and the risks of
having your blood pressure go up too high or getting

(50:33):
nausea something like that. It's higher if you're having general antethesions.
So if we do a little bit of sedation, maybe
a little prople fall, which is that magic drug that
the colonoscopy guys use or versat, which is like valium,
they're very smooth drugs. They'll sedate you and they'll make
it so that when I numb you up, it doesn't hurt.

(50:56):
It only takes a couple seconds to numb up your eyelids,
and then I'll remove and eve lips of skin across
your upper eyeland enough so that you can put your
makeup on so it doesn't smear. Now, if I do
this in a man it's a much more conservative operation,
which means I'm going to purposely leave skin on the
iseld of a man. Because remove so much skin that

(51:18):
I can see all your makeup. Let me see your eyes.
They're beautiful, Susan, if I can. If I remove that
much skin and a man, it will feminize his eyelids.
So we want to be careful about overdoing it in
a man. And then there is the real artistry in
terms of removing some of the fat around the eyes
and the upper lids. There are two fat pads. And

(51:41):
I've said this on the radio before. This is the
difficult thing to teach residents, trainees and plastic surgery. I
can teach them all sorts of things. I can teach
you how to take care of patients, I can teach
you surgical techniques, but what's very difficult is to teach
the artistry of doing this. Because when someone asked me
how much fat do I remove from the upper lids

(52:02):
that little peri orbital fat pad, the answer is enough,
not too much, not too little. But it's not an
exact amount. It's the amount that I make the the
artistic determination before surgery, and somewhat inside in surgery. Also
how much fat to removes so that it's no longer bulging.

(52:24):
But you don't have a sunken in appearance either. And
that just takes experience. It takes doing a lot of
these uh in order to do it just right. And
that's that's the answer. I take just the right amount,
like the bears, Like the bears, that's right.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
The three bears tell us that story. Not too big,
not too small, just right, just right.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
That's that's what we do. So then I remove a
little bit of muscle also from the upper lid, uh.
And then I sewed things back. And then the lower
lid is a little bit more difficult than the upper lid.
Make an incision just under the eyelashes, and I lift
up the skin and the muscle, exposing the three fat
pads of the lower eyelid. And and you know one

(53:09):
of those is called the Mario Cuomo fat pad. Am
I allowed to say that? Yeah? Probably Mario? Andy, call
in if you have an issue with that. But you
know Mario had so much fat of his lower lid,
I you know, wrote him repeatedly, let me do your
blood for life again.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
I don't understand why more men don't that those bags
under their eyes are so aging and so obstructing to
their how they look. Men, So many men need their
eyes done.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
And it's such a simple.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
It's simple, and it's not girly, and it should be done.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
There you go, well said, not girly. Okay, So I
remove a judicious amount of fat, that's the right answer,
from the lower lids. And then I remove and this
is the tough part. How much skin to remove? It's
always a little less than I want to remove. And
the reason is, boy, you cannot owe the lower lids.

(54:01):
If you do, you're gonna get a basst hound appearance,
a pull down of the lid. And by the way,
if you've got a loose lower lid, let me feel
your lower lid, ses she's running away from me. Don't
touch my eyelids, she says. If I distract your eyelid
from your eyeball and it doesn't snap back really quickly,
then I have to do this procedure called a canthopexy,

(54:23):
and a canthopexy is a belt tightening procedure. That's where
I put one stitch, usually dissolving stitch, in the muscle
around the eye. The belt of the eye and I
kind of hold it up to a little higher position,
a little more off to the side that it is,
and that way it gives your eyelid a more youthful appearance,
and it looks a little funny for about two or

(54:44):
three weeks. I will give that to you, but then
it settles down and that decreases the chance of getting
a pull down of the eyelid, which is called you
don't know, an ectropion. That's your word for the day, ectropium.
We don't want that. And I do this operation that
that kanthopexy, that felt tightening procedure in about half of

(55:06):
eyelid lifts some people, I don't. If you're thirty, you
certainly don't need it. If you're seventy, you almost certainly
do need it. So that's an eyelid lift. And yes,
Taylor Swift had that. I don't think she had that
exact procedure, but I think she had some skin removed
and probably a little bit of fat and she looks
much better because man, she needed help, right all right.

(55:28):
I'm board certified plastic surgeon. Doctor Arthur Perry. Sitting right
next to me in the home studio is Susan Warner,
the best co host I've had since Mike Roysen uh
and certainly the prettiest. Absolutely so thank you for doing this, Susan.
I appreciate it, my pleasure. Noah, thank you once again
for incredible engineering. Check me out at periplastic surgery dot com.

(55:51):
That's the website. Give me a call during the week
if you want to schedule an appointment in New York,
it's two one two seven five three eighteen twenty. That's
two and two seven five three eighteen twenty. And in
New York, Hey, I call the same number. We'll all
answer it. We'll put the we'll put the calls to
the right office. Thanks so much, Noah. We'll see everybody
next week. Bye bye. Now.

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