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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The public doesn't get a damn. And I went to
his office and I said, I said, look at my face.
He goes, yeah, look at your face.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We're going to do with your fan. What can you
do with his face? I go like that, I said,
what you got? I go and look at this. I'm
getting old. I said, I want to maybe he could
fix it up a little bit. Doctor Oz, are you there?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I've here Ark and I want to get a plagued you.
Having worked with you on a book and numerous other activity,
you want to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To Arthur Perry, the best in plastic.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Surgery, workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivery content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Smart as A really brilliant gift is position. I want
to pay you the highest truthe I can give to
a surgeon, which is when people come to you, they
don't come for an operation, they come for an opinion.
And that's why I trust you. With my friend's relatives,
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeon nine O two and zero bows
to this guy I met.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Doctor Arthur Perry.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Doctor Arthur Perry was there that night.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
He came and said hello to me, and he was
you know, he was looking at my face.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I I got a little nervous.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
He was looking around like the underneath my eyes, the bags.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
He was looking at the crow's feet. There's nothing wrong
with your face. And his show is on every Saturday
at six o'clock, Doctor Arthur Perry. And yeah, thanks rob Asterina.
You know, did you listen to the rob Astorino show
between four and five today? Well, he actually mentioned me
speaking with one of my frequent callers, Sondra. All right, well,
(01:52):
thanks Rob. I hope everyone listens to your show. Also,
thanks for the thanks for the plug. All right, this
is What's Your Wrinkle right here on wo R, straight
talk about cosmetic surgery in the podcast world. I'm a
board certified plastic surgeon and we're we're coming in Noah
a couple of weeks. It'll be our twentieth anniversary on
these airwaves. I hope WR is throwing that big gala
(02:16):
at the Hilton, don't you know, you know, inviting everybody.
What do you think now? All right, so this is
the show about you. It's a show about your wrinkles,
your gels, your small breasts, you're fat around your hips,
your what else? You know, red lines on your face,
you know these little capillaries. I take care of those
and we do botox and we talk about all those
(02:36):
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Speaker 4 (03:06):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That voice, that voice my co host for so long,
and that we got her back. Take doctor, It's Susan Warner. Susan,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I can't wait to use nighttime again.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Not not so soon. I can't wait a little while
the reason Susan I got her out of retirement. We
brushed her off and we wheeled her to the to
the microphone. Because if you listened a few weeks ago,
you might have heard about Susan's laser deep laser deep
laser that I did tell us about that, so that
(03:41):
you came on just a couple of days after your
laser and you were wide eyed and giddy and you
didn't realize what you were really in for the next week.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Tell us about it for the faint at heart, but
not surgery. It is a procedure, it is a progress.
And finally, three weeks in, I can honestly say that
sometimes I look.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
In the mirror and do a double take.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Oh yeah, there has been some a reduction on this process.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That's right, so now you look forty instead of fifty.
Very seriously, Susan had some wrinkles. She's not shy to
talk about this, which.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Is why you suggested laser as opposed to going straight
to a facelift.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's right, because a facelift doesn't help those fine wrinkles.
A facelift helps the jowls. It helps the turkey gobbler.
Let me let me look. Oh wait, it's Thanksgiving, huh gobble.
All right, well that's on the agenda. If you know,
she's got to forget about what she went through with
the laser. It really is. It's something to you know,
my patients who have had lasers and even chemical peels.
(04:45):
It's it's not the easiest thing to go through, but
the results are worth it, and certainly with the laser.
I kid Susan about there's a couple of little residual
wrinkles that I'd like to blast away. A little gunshy,
And that's what everybody says after the laser, they say,
you know what, it was worth it. I'm so happy
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I had it. I'll never have it again.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
But understand that I had a little bit of a complication.
I had an allergic reactor to some products, so that
wasn't on you. But I'm still have some redness and
some even unevenness in my skin with makeup month for
the first time after three weeks, it looks amazing. But
you said the redness is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, you know, it's during the period of redness that
your face is still shrinking. The inflammation that occurs in
your face. There are these little cells. We won't bore
you with the details, but they cause shrinkage of wounds.
And your body thinks it was wounded. You know, it
didn't know. We didn't. Yeah, it doesn't didn't know we
did it for fun. It thinks didn't do it for fun. Yeah.
(05:48):
And you know, ten thousand years ago, if you were
exposed to a flame and you went through the same thing,
clear fall, nuclear fall. Oh my goodness, you're you're not
good for my practical Please with the results. I am
that and that's fine, seriously, But it's an age old
process that occurs that when we heal, we shrink our
skin and we generate collagen. That's kind of scar but
(06:11):
we call it collagen. It's euphemism, and and that is
what saves our life before the bacteria get in our
wounds if we weren't in the modern era, right, So
we take advantage of this age old process and we
in a very controlled way laser you. And that's what
you had. You had a pretty aggressissive deep laser. You know,
(06:33):
I did someone else that you know, and you know
that younger skin, much younger in you know, a thirty
year old, and it's a very very different procedure.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But she did have some crows feet, and you did
go more aggressively than like clear and brilliant.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And that's one of the nice things about this laser.
I was explaining to Susan before the broadcast. The laser
is a tool that we use just like a scalpel
or a scissors in plastic surgery, and a skilled plastic
surgeon like myself can alter the result from the very
same tool. So I could do a laser as superficial
as an exfoliation, or as deep as going down to
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your bone, which was mine, no, you're you know we
yours was believe it or not, a mid level laser.
I could go deeper and in the old days before
the fractionated laser that's called a fraxile, that's just a
brand name. But before that, from i'd say about nineteen
ninety to two thousand, I did much deeper lasers and
(07:37):
really with the intent of creating a wound. So, you know,
as unhappy as you might have been in this recovery.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I wasn't a good patient in recovery.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Actually you were pretty good. You went out. Most people high,
they don't answer the door, you know, slide the pizza
under the door. Yeah, Susan was out there.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
But it's hard looking in the mirror and looking like that.
It is difficult.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But you did great and the results will be wonderful.
And thank god, because otherwise I don't think she'd be
sitting next to me.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I think that's probably very true.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That's right, she went talk to me. She wouldn't be
my co host. But yes, you look beautiful, and thank
you so much for not only having the procedure but
coming on the radio twice to talk about it. So
all right, So Susan Warner, now when you see her
on the street, you'll think she's a thirty year old.
(08:28):
Oh yeah, all right, Thanks so much, Susan. And by
the way, since you're here, let's plug your books. Tell us.
We can't be on the radio with you without plugging
your book.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Go ahead, tell us my book Never Say Never, Never
Say Always about recovery from profound loss. But it is
uplifting and telling you how to live a good life.
And hopefully I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Turning that into a treatment.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, So if any of you are movie producers or
a TV produces, that's right. Her name is Susan Warner,
you can contact her through this show and we will
make sure that you're credited in the treat Now, apparently
Tom Cruise has signed on to play me in the movie.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Is half your sign?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But you know people always mistake you know, Tom Cruise
me Tom?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Okay, Well all right, well hopefully not. It's not like
Woody Allen is. You know, we won't go to that story.
All right, There's there's so much more to the show.
I'm going to be talking today about social media and
the rise of cosmetic surgery with dating apps. Wow, this
(09:32):
is a good one, Susan. You'll want to hear this one, Susan.
And we're also going to talk about a new procedure
to fix your festoons. No, let's take a short break.
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Saturday evening at six pm. You're listening to What's Your
Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry. What's your Wrinkle? And we
are back. This is Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
and you're listening to What's Your Wrinkle and straight talk
about cosmetic Surgery, the number seven cosmetic surgery podcast in
the world. We are really trying to boost those numbers,
(12:23):
So tell your friends about this podcast, tell your friends
to subscribe to the podcast. Let's see if we can
break the top five. Come on now, help me out,
all right, festoons? Do you know what a festoon is?
It's not a boat. Look at yourself in the mirror,
but not while you're driving. Please look at yourself in
the mirror. And if you're over fifty, you probably have
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a little bit of extra skin on your upper eyelids
and even your lower eyelids, and you might have some
fat of your lower eyelids. Okay, so eyelids age differently.
Everybody's a little different in their aging, right. Some people
are seventy years old with very few rings, and some
look like a little prune. You know, what can you do?
We age differently. It depends on your genes and how
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much sun exposure and whether you smoke. Eyelids age differently. Also,
some people get extra skin of their eyelids. Some people
get fat bulges of the eyelids. Some get eyelids that
look like basset hound eyelids. Yeah, I have basket hounds,
although I've exiled them to the Los Angeles, but we
won't talk about that. But the eyelids of the basket hounds,
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they drop down. They expose the white underneath the colored iris.
Remember what that is from you know, ninth grade? You
know anatomy. You didn't take it out of it, all right?
I the iris, that's the colored area of the eye,
and your lower eyelids should hug the iris. As you
get older, it kind of drops down. Will still other
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people get sagging of skin further down the cheeks. And
when I see a patient with lower eyelid aging, you
you come into the office for a consultation and you say, well,
I don't like my eyelids there they look old. And
I evaluate all of those things as well as the
position of your eyebrow, and then we design an operation
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to that is very specific for you. Not all eyelid
surgery is the same. Some people get skin removals, some
people get fat removal, some get both. Some you know,
there's all sorts of things that we need to do so,
even though it might seem simple to you. One of
the most vexing problems has been the festoons. Those are
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the lower eyelid bags. So if you look at your eyelid,
you know, you might see a little extra skin, you
might see some fat, but underneath your eyelid, almost on
the top of your cheek, you might have some extra skin.
That's called a festoon. And that again, that's one of
the more difficult things in plastic surgery. Again, you think
it's kind of simple. So when I was a resident,
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the way we dealt with festoons, and that was at
the University of Chicago in the nineteen eighties, we would
excize them. We'd actually just numb up the skin, make
an incision over that extra skin and take it out.
And it worked, but you had a little scar there.
So over the years, plastic surgeons have figured out all
(15:14):
sorts of ways to get rid of festoons. We've used lasers,
we've used we've used althera, which is high energy focused ultrasound.
We have injected these with sclerosing agents, you know, things
like for varicose veins and sclerotherapy. We inject things in
to make it scar and all of those will work
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to a certain extent. If you've got small festoons, it'll work.
But if you've got a lot of extra skin. You know,
if you look like those character actors on TV with
all that extra skin, that's not going to work. So
in this month's Plastic Can Reconstructor Surgeon, I'm sure you
all read that, there's a very good paper on returning
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to the older method, the older method of direct excision,
making an incision in the upper party of your cheek,
which if done well, heals really well and it is
hard to see. And then we lift the skin and
often we don't need to even remove fat, and we
remove as much as you're ready for this, a half
an inch of skin. Can you believe that? A half
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an inch of skin in the upper part of your face,
in the lower eyelid. But we in order to do that,
we need to stabilize the eyelid. And I've talked about
this in the past. The eyelid. If you look at
the eyelid like maybe a pair of pants that's wrinkled.
If you had wrinkles on your pants and you wanted
to smooth them out, you kind of pulled down a bit.
But if your belt is loose, your pants fall down.
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So what do you do? You tighten the belt right,
same thing with an eyelid. If we want to smooth
out the wrinkles of the eyelid, often we'll have to
tighten the belt of the eyelid, the part of the
eyelid that hugs the eyeball, and we do something called
the kanthopexy. I place a couple stitches in the muscle
and kind of hyke up that eyelid to a higher
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position off to the side, that's called lateral position. A
little bit higher and off to the side. In that way,
we can pull on that skin and remove as much
as a half an inch of skin with this new
festoon operation, and the results are pretty remarkable. In this
particular study, there were a couple dozen people men and
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women that have the operation, like three dozen or so,
and they all did very well. There were very few
problems with the operation as long as that canthopexy, that
tightening procedure is done. So if you think you have festoons,
well there's an operation for you for that. Also. All
right on board certified plastic surgeon doctor Arthur Berry Host.
(17:44):
So what's your wrinkle right here on Wor. We're going
to take our short break, and when we come back,
we're going to talk about that very very interesting study
looking at dating apps. How many of you are on
dating apps? I bet a lot of you, and and
there is the interaction of cosmetic surgery and dating apps.
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It's actually fascinating. No, let's take our second break. We'll
be back after these words. They say that sixty is
the new fifty, But while you may feel and act fifty,
the mirror doesn't lie. But that's where plastic surgery comes in.
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I'm board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and I
love helping patients look younger and better. If you've got
sagging cheeks, jowls, and that dreaded turkey gobbler, it might
be time for a little nip and a tuck. You
look more rested and yes, younger. With my short scar
facelift and the artistic injection of wrinkle filler or a
laser peel, well, that might be just what it takes
(18:48):
to get you looking as good as you feel. Let's
sit down for an hour consultation in my new Park
Avenue office. Together, we'll come up with a plan to
help you look your best. Give me a call at
eight three three Perry MD. That's a three three p
e R R Y m D. Check me out on
the web at periplastic Surgery dot com. And don't forget
to listen to me doctor Arthur Perry, every Saturday evening
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at six pm. Right here on wo R you're listening
to What's Your Wrinkle with doctor Arthur Perry. What's your Wrinkle?
And we are back on board certified plastic surgeon, doctor
Arthur Perry host, So what's your Wrinkle? Right here on
wo R and on the on the dating apps, no,
on the podcast it's called straight Talk about Cosmetic Surgery.
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Did you know that a third of people over the
age of fifty are single in the United States? A third.
That's a lot of people. They're either divorced or widowed
or have never been married. And and again about thirty
one percent of people between fifty and fifty nine, and
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you know something like thirty six percent if you're over
sixty five. Women are more likely to be single than
men in the older age groups, particularly as you ca
I'll go over sixty five. And overall, you know a
lot of single people out there the reason, well, divorces.
Fifty percent of people get divorced, right, but forty percent
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of people over the age of fifty alf never been married.
And that brings in the fifteen hundred dating apps. Did
you know that? Fifteen There are fifteen hundred dating apps
out there, most of you know the big ones, right.
Tender believe it or not, is the biggest dating app.
It's the leading app. I wouldn't have guessed that, honestly,
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but that's followed by Bumble and Hings. Those are the
big three. Do you know that during COVID there's some
really interesting statistics out there. During COVID, Tender on one
day had three billion swipes worldwide. I think about that.
That's it's amazing. E Harmony did a national survey and
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they predicted that seventy percent of relationships by the year
twenty forty will begin online. So gone are the days
of meeting someone in the library or at a bar.
It's now with these dating apps. But here's what happens
with dating apps and Instagram and Snapchat. They're all visually oriented, right,
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So if you've ever been on those dating apps, you
know you look at pictures and you swipe you swipe,
you swipe until you find one that kind of looks good. Right,
Is that the most superficial thing on earth? Of course
it is. It's ridiculous, but that's life. That's the way
it is, right, you know, I mean, you're not going
to sit there and read the bio interested in Russian architecture. No, No,
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it doesn't happen that way. It just doesn't. You look
at the pictures, right, So what happens then is people
tend to change the pictures, They use filters, They lie
once it's true, they lie about their age. Everybody lies
about their age. Men tend to say that they're taller
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than they are. Women tend to say they're lighter, less
heavy than they are. And people put their best clothes on,
and they put makeup on, and they try to make
themselves as photogenic as possible. And there comes the cosmetic surgery.
Because when we're living in a society where you put
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your photograph out there to get a mate, to get
a date, you know, or even to get a friend,
then everybody wants to look as good as possible, and
the filters only goes so far. So I recently did
a chin augmentation on a twenty seven year old put
a chin in plant in who came in very specifically
wanting to look good on the dating apps. And I
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can't even tell you the number of twenty and thirty
somethings that I've done lip augmentations on with filler. Again,
for the dating apps. They tell me that I want
to look better, I got to get a guy, and
I say, get a guy. Most of the time it's
women that's who have cosmetic surgery. Ninety to ninety five
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percent of people who have cosmetic surgery are women. In
the April twenty twenty five issue of Computers and Human Behavior,
Yes that's a real journal. Can you believe that Computers
and Human Behavior is a journal. Well, they published the
study and they were looking to bridge the gap in
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behavior in the looking at the interplay between dating app
use and the acceptance of cosmetic surgery. Now, they found
in this study that women tend to lie on their
dating profiles. Well, men do also, and ninety five percent
of people on these dating apps have altered edited their photos,
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so beware if you're out there looking at the photos.
They also found that frequent use of social networking sites
increased appearance investment, they said, and it increased their desire
to have cosmetic surgery. All right, So one in five
in this particular study actually had cosmetic surgery at least
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one cosmetic procedure. And isn't this interesting? And you might say, well,
that is terrible, it's crazy. This is life. This is
the way it is. So if it's that way, you know,
the psychologists have a field day with all this information.
It was in a psychology journal. But the truth is,
this is what people are doing. They're going online and
they're trying to enhance their appearance. First they do it
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by altering their photographs, and then ultimately so many people
are having cosmetic surgery. Is there anything wrong with that?
You know, I'm not making judgments and you shouldn't either.
But the truth is they're coming into my office and
they're getting online with their new noses, and they're less wrinkled,
luck and they're less jals, and they're bathing suit photos yes,
(24:58):
in a bikini that my have been have bress augmented.
You know, it's this is the way it is, and
there's nothing wrong with that. I don't make judgments. It's
what I do for a living. I just I'm just
the messenger. That's the way it is, all right. Noah
begins to wave frantically in the studio and tell me
that we're about to finish the show. My website is
(25:21):
Periplasticsurgery dot com. Periplastic surgery dot com. I've got offices
on where I'm Park Avenue in eighty fifth Street in
Manhattan and at well By Messer where we're having that
filler special twenty five percent off yep, this month. You
have to call doctor Carolyn Messler Messer's office. And what
number is that? Well, Noah, we'll tell you it's six
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four six seven six zero thirty two fifty six. If
you're interested in the products that we talk about on
the show, it's Amazon. You can't compete with Amazon. They
are an amazing company, and that's where we're selling our
products now. Noah, thanks so much for great engineering. Don't forget, Oh,
I also have the office in Somerset, New Jersey. Don't forget.
I have to mention that. Noah says, all right, thanks
(26:05):
so much for great engineering. Were coming up to twenty
years on WR six o'clock next week. We'll be right back,
Thanks Noah, Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The public doesn't get a damn. And I went to
his office and I said, I said, look at my face.
He goes, yeah, look at your face.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We're going to do with your fan. What can you
do with his face? I go like that, I said,
what you got? I go and look at this. I'm
getting old. I said, I want to maybe he could
fix it up a little bit. Doctor Oz, are you there?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I've here Ark and I want to get a plagued you.
Having worked with you on a book and numerous other activity,
you want to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To Arthur Perry, the best in plastic.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Surgery, workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivery content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Smart as A really brilliant gift is position. I want
to pay you the highest truthe I can give to
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I I got a little nervous.
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He was looking around like the underneath my eyes, the bags.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
He was looking at the crow's feet. There's nothing wrong
with your face. And his show is on every Saturday
at six o'clock, Doctor Arthur Perry. And yeah, thanks rob Asterina.
You know, did you listen to the rob Astorino show
between four and five today? Well, he actually mentioned me
speaking with one of my frequent callers, Sondra. All right, well,
(01:52):
thanks Rob. I hope everyone listens to your show. Also,
thanks for the thanks for the plug. All right, this
is What's Your Wrinkle right here on wo R, straight
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Speaker 4 (03:06):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That voice, that voice my co host for so long,
and that we got her back. Take doctor, It's Susan Warner. Susan,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I can't wait to use nighttime again.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Not not so soon. I can't wait a little while
the reason Susan I got her out of retirement. We
brushed her off and we wheeled her to the to
the microphone. Because if you listened a few weeks ago,
you might have heard about Susan's laser deep laser deep
laser that I did tell us about that, so that
(03:41):
you came on just a couple of days after your
laser and you were wide eyed and giddy and you
didn't realize what you were really in for the next week.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Tell us about it for the faint at heart, but
not surgery. It is a procedure, it is a progress.
And finally, three weeks in, I can honestly say that
sometimes I look.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
In the mirror and do a double take.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Oh yeah, there has been some a reduction on this process.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That's right, so now you look forty instead of fifty.
Very seriously, Susan had some wrinkles. She's not shy to
talk about this, which.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Is why you suggested laser as opposed to going straight
to a facelift.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's right, because a facelift doesn't help those fine wrinkles.
A facelift helps the jowls. It helps the turkey gobbler.
Let me let me look. Oh wait, it's Thanksgiving, huh gobble.
All right, well that's on the agenda. If you know,
she's got to forget about what she went through with
the laser. It really is. It's something to you know,
my patients who have had lasers and even chemical peels.
(04:45):
It's it's not the easiest thing to go through, but
the results are worth it, and certainly with the laser.
I kid Susan about there's a couple of little residual
wrinkles that I'd like to blast away. A little gunshy,
And that's what everybody says after the laser, they say,
you know what, it was worth it. I'm so happy
(05:06):
I had it. I'll never have it again.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
But understand that I had a little bit of a complication.
I had an allergic reactor to some products, so that
wasn't on you. But I'm still have some redness and
some even unevenness in my skin with makeup month for
the first time after three weeks, it looks amazing. But
you said the redness is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, you know, it's during the period of redness that
your face is still shrinking. The inflammation that occurs in
your face. There are these little cells. We won't bore
you with the details, but they cause shrinkage of wounds.
And your body thinks it was wounded. You know, it
didn't know. We didn't. Yeah, it doesn't didn't know we
did it for fun. It thinks didn't do it for fun. Yeah.
(05:48):
And you know, ten thousand years ago, if you were
exposed to a flame and you went through the same thing,
clear fall, nuclear fall. Oh my goodness, you're you're not
good for my practical Please with the results. I am
that and that's fine, seriously, But it's an age old
process that occurs that when we heal, we shrink our
skin and we generate collagen. That's kind of scar but
(06:11):
we call it collagen. It's euphemism, and and that is
what saves our life before the bacteria get in our
wounds if we weren't in the modern era, right, So
we take advantage of this age old process and we
in a very controlled way laser you. And that's what
you had. You had a pretty aggressissive deep laser. You know,
(06:33):
I did someone else that you know, and you know
that younger skin, much younger in you know, a thirty
year old, and it's a very very different procedure.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But she did have some crows feet, and you did
go more aggressively than like clear and brilliant.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And that's one of the nice things about this laser.
I was explaining to Susan before the broadcast. The laser
is a tool that we use just like a scalpel
or a scissors in plastic surgery, and a skilled plastic
surgeon like myself can alter the result from the very
same tool. So I could do a laser as superficial
as an exfoliation, or as deep as going down to
(07:14):
your bone, which was mine, no, you're you know we
yours was believe it or not, a mid level laser.
I could go deeper and in the old days before
the fractionated laser that's called a fraxile, that's just a
brand name. But before that, from i'd say about nineteen
ninety to two thousand, I did much deeper lasers and
(07:37):
really with the intent of creating a wound. So, you know,
as unhappy as you might have been in this recovery.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I wasn't a good patient in recovery.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Actually you were pretty good. You went out. Most people high,
they don't answer the door, you know, slide the pizza
under the door. Yeah, Susan was out there.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
But it's hard looking in the mirror and looking like that.
It is difficult.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But you did great and the results will be wonderful.
And thank god, because otherwise I don't think she'd be
sitting next to me.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I think that's probably very true.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That's right, she went talk to me. She wouldn't be
my co host. But yes, you look beautiful, and thank
you so much for not only having the procedure but
coming on the radio twice to talk about it. So
all right, So Susan Warner, now when you see her
on the street, you'll think she's a thirty year old.
(08:28):
Oh yeah, all right, Thanks so much, Susan. And by
the way, since you're here, let's plug your books. Tell us.
We can't be on the radio with you without plugging
your book.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Go ahead, tell us my book Never Say Never, Never
Say Always about recovery from profound loss. But it is
uplifting and telling you how to live a good life.
And hopefully I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Turning that into a treatment.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yes, So if any of you are movie producers or
a TV produces, that's right. Her name is Susan Warner,
you can contact her through this show and we will
make sure that you're credited in the treat Now, apparently
Tom Cruise has signed on to play me in the movie.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Is half your sign?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
But you know people always mistake you know, Tom Cruise
me Tom?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Okay, Well all right, well hopefully not. It's not like
Woody Allen is. You know, we won't go to that story.
All right, There's there's so much more to the show.
I'm going to be talking today about social media and
the rise of cosmetic surgery with dating apps. Wow, this
(09:32):
is a good one, Susan. You'll want to hear this one, Susan.
And we're also going to talk about a new procedure
to fix your festoons. No, let's take a short break.
We'll be back after these words. Everyone should have a
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(12:01):
Saturday evening at six pm. You're listening to What's Your
Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry. What's your Wrinkle? And we
are back. This is Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
and you're listening to What's Your Wrinkle and straight talk
about cosmetic Surgery, the number seven cosmetic surgery podcast in
the world. We are really trying to boost those numbers,
(12:23):
So tell your friends about this podcast, tell your friends
to subscribe to the podcast. Let's see if we can
break the top five. Come on now, help me out,
all right, festoons? Do you know what a festoon is?
It's not a boat. Look at yourself in the mirror,
but not while you're driving. Please look at yourself in
the mirror. And if you're over fifty, you probably have
(12:45):
a little bit of extra skin on your upper eyelids
and even your lower eyelids, and you might have some
fat of your lower eyelids. Okay, so eyelids age differently.
Everybody's a little different in their aging, right. Some people
are seventy years old with very few rings, and some
look like a little prune. You know, what can you do?
We age differently. It depends on your genes and how
(13:06):
much sun exposure and whether you smoke. Eyelids age differently. Also,
some people get extra skin of their eyelids. Some people
get fat bulges of the eyelids. Some get eyelids that
look like basset hound eyelids. Yeah, I have basket hounds,
although I've exiled them to the Los Angeles, but we
won't talk about that. But the eyelids of the basket hounds,
(13:27):
they drop down. They expose the white underneath the colored iris.
Remember what that is from you know, ninth grade? You
know anatomy. You didn't take it out of it, all right?
I the iris, that's the colored area of the eye,
and your lower eyelids should hug the iris. As you
get older, it kind of drops down. Will still other
(13:48):
people get sagging of skin further down the cheeks. And
when I see a patient with lower eyelid aging, you
you come into the office for a consultation and you say, well,
I don't like my eyelids there they look old. And
I evaluate all of those things as well as the
position of your eyebrow, and then we design an operation
(14:09):
to that is very specific for you. Not all eyelid
surgery is the same. Some people get skin removals, some
people get fat removal, some get both. Some you know,
there's all sorts of things that we need to do so,
even though it might seem simple to you. One of
the most vexing problems has been the festoons. Those are
(14:31):
the lower eyelid bags. So if you look at your eyelid,
you know, you might see a little extra skin, you
might see some fat, but underneath your eyelid, almost on
the top of your cheek, you might have some extra skin.
That's called a festoon. And that again, that's one of
the more difficult things in plastic surgery. Again, you think
it's kind of simple. So when I was a resident,
(14:53):
the way we dealt with festoons, and that was at
the University of Chicago in the nineteen eighties, we would
excize them. We'd actually just numb up the skin, make
an incision over that extra skin and take it out.
And it worked, but you had a little scar there.
So over the years, plastic surgeons have figured out all
(15:14):
sorts of ways to get rid of festoons. We've used lasers,
we've used we've used althera, which is high energy focused ultrasound.
We have injected these with sclerosing agents, you know, things
like for varicose veins and sclerotherapy. We inject things in
to make it scar and all of those will work
(15:36):
to a certain extent. If you've got small festoons, it'll work.
But if you've got a lot of extra skin. You know,
if you look like those character actors on TV with
all that extra skin, that's not going to work. So
in this month's Plastic Can Reconstructor Surgeon, I'm sure you
all read that, there's a very good paper on returning
(15:57):
to the older method, the older method of direct excision,
making an incision in the upper party of your cheek,
which if done well, heals really well and it is
hard to see. And then we lift the skin and
often we don't need to even remove fat, and we
remove as much as you're ready for this, a half
an inch of skin. Can you believe that? A half
(16:18):
an inch of skin in the upper part of your face,
in the lower eyelid. But we in order to do that,
we need to stabilize the eyelid. And I've talked about
this in the past. The eyelid. If you look at
the eyelid like maybe a pair of pants that's wrinkled.
If you had wrinkles on your pants and you wanted
to smooth them out, you kind of pulled down a bit.
But if your belt is loose, your pants fall down.
(16:40):
So what do you do? You tighten the belt right,
same thing with an eyelid. If we want to smooth
out the wrinkles of the eyelid, often we'll have to
tighten the belt of the eyelid, the part of the
eyelid that hugs the eyeball, and we do something called
the kanthopexy. I place a couple stitches in the muscle
and kind of hyke up that eyelid to a higher
(17:01):
position off to the side, that's called lateral position. A
little bit higher and off to the side. In that way,
we can pull on that skin and remove as much
as a half an inch of skin with this new
festoon operation, and the results are pretty remarkable. In this
particular study, there were a couple dozen people men and
(17:23):
women that have the operation, like three dozen or so,
and they all did very well. There were very few
problems with the operation as long as that canthopexy, that
tightening procedure is done. So if you think you have festoons,
well there's an operation for you for that. Also. All
right on board certified plastic surgeon doctor Arthur Berry Host.
(17:44):
So what's your wrinkle right here on Wor. We're going
to take our short break, and when we come back,
we're going to talk about that very very interesting study
looking at dating apps. How many of you are on
dating apps? I bet a lot of you, and and
there is the interaction of cosmetic surgery and dating apps.
(18:05):
It's actually fascinating. No, let's take our second break. We'll
be back after these words. They say that sixty is
the new fifty, But while you may feel and act fifty,
the mirror doesn't lie. But that's where plastic surgery comes in.
(18:26):
I'm board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and I
love helping patients look younger and better. If you've got
sagging cheeks, jowls, and that dreaded turkey gobbler, it might
be time for a little nip and a tuck. You
look more rested and yes, younger. With my short scar
facelift and the artistic injection of wrinkle filler or a
laser peel, well, that might be just what it takes
(18:48):
to get you looking as good as you feel. Let's
sit down for an hour consultation in my new Park
Avenue office. Together, we'll come up with a plan to
help you look your best. Give me a call at
eight three three Perry MD. That's a three three p
e R R Y m D. Check me out on
the web at periplastic Surgery dot com. And don't forget
to listen to me doctor Arthur Perry, every Saturday evening
(19:09):
at six pm. Right here on wo R you're listening
to What's Your Wrinkle with doctor Arthur Perry. What's your Wrinkle?
And we are back on board certified plastic surgeon, doctor
Arthur Perry host, So what's your Wrinkle? Right here on
wo R and on the on the dating apps, no,
on the podcast it's called straight Talk about Cosmetic Surgery.
(19:30):
Did you know that a third of people over the
age of fifty are single in the United States? A third.
That's a lot of people. They're either divorced or widowed
or have never been married. And and again about thirty
one percent of people between fifty and fifty nine, and
(19:51):
you know something like thirty six percent if you're over
sixty five. Women are more likely to be single than
men in the older age groups, particularly as you ca
I'll go over sixty five. And overall, you know a
lot of single people out there the reason, well, divorces.
Fifty percent of people get divorced, right, but forty percent
(20:14):
of people over the age of fifty alf never been married.
And that brings in the fifteen hundred dating apps. Did
you know that? Fifteen There are fifteen hundred dating apps
out there, most of you know the big ones, right.
Tender believe it or not, is the biggest dating app.
It's the leading app. I wouldn't have guessed that, honestly,
(20:36):
but that's followed by Bumble and Hings. Those are the
big three. Do you know that during COVID there's some
really interesting statistics out there. During COVID, Tender on one
day had three billion swipes worldwide. I think about that.
That's it's amazing. E Harmony did a national survey and
(20:57):
they predicted that seventy percent of relationships by the year
twenty forty will begin online. So gone are the days
of meeting someone in the library or at a bar.
It's now with these dating apps. But here's what happens
with dating apps and Instagram and Snapchat. They're all visually oriented, right,
(21:18):
So if you've ever been on those dating apps, you
know you look at pictures and you swipe you swipe,
you swipe until you find one that kind of looks good. Right,
Is that the most superficial thing on earth? Of course
it is. It's ridiculous, but that's life. That's the way
it is, right, you know, I mean, you're not going
to sit there and read the bio interested in Russian architecture. No, No,
(21:41):
it doesn't happen that way. It just doesn't. You look
at the pictures, right, So what happens then is people
tend to change the pictures, They use filters, They lie
once it's true, they lie about their age. Everybody lies
about their age. Men tend to say that they're taller
(22:02):
than they are. Women tend to say they're lighter, less
heavy than they are. And people put their best clothes on,
and they put makeup on, and they try to make
themselves as photogenic as possible. And there comes the cosmetic surgery.
Because when we're living in a society where you put
(22:26):
your photograph out there to get a mate, to get
a date, you know, or even to get a friend,
then everybody wants to look as good as possible, and
the filters only goes so far. So I recently did
a chin augmentation on a twenty seven year old put
a chin in plant in who came in very specifically
wanting to look good on the dating apps. And I
(22:47):
can't even tell you the number of twenty and thirty
somethings that I've done lip augmentations on with filler. Again,
for the dating apps. They tell me that I want
to look better, I got to get a guy, and
I say, get a guy. Most of the time it's
women that's who have cosmetic surgery. Ninety to ninety five
(23:08):
percent of people who have cosmetic surgery are women. In
the April twenty twenty five issue of Computers and Human Behavior,
Yes that's a real journal. Can you believe that Computers
and Human Behavior is a journal. Well, they published the
study and they were looking to bridge the gap in
(23:29):
behavior in the looking at the interplay between dating app
use and the acceptance of cosmetic surgery. Now, they found
in this study that women tend to lie on their
dating profiles. Well, men do also, and ninety five percent
of people on these dating apps have altered edited their photos,
(23:50):
so beware if you're out there looking at the photos.
They also found that frequent use of social networking sites
increased appearance investment, they said, and it increased their desire
to have cosmetic surgery. All right, So one in five
in this particular study actually had cosmetic surgery at least
(24:13):
one cosmetic procedure. And isn't this interesting? And you might say, well,
that is terrible, it's crazy. This is life. This is
the way it is. So if it's that way, you know,
the psychologists have a field day with all this information.
It was in a psychology journal. But the truth is,
this is what people are doing. They're going online and
they're trying to enhance their appearance. First they do it
(24:35):
by altering their photographs, and then ultimately so many people
are having cosmetic surgery. Is there anything wrong with that?
You know, I'm not making judgments and you shouldn't either.
But the truth is they're coming into my office and
they're getting online with their new noses, and they're less wrinkled,
luck and they're less jals, and they're bathing suit photos yes,
(24:58):
in a bikini that my have been have bress augmented.
You know, it's this is the way it is, and
there's nothing wrong with that. I don't make judgments. It's
what I do for a living. I just I'm just
the messenger. That's the way it is, all right. Noah
begins to wave frantically in the studio and tell me
that we're about to finish the show. My website is
(25:21):
Periplasticsurgery dot com. Periplastic surgery dot com. I've got offices
on where I'm Park Avenue in eighty fifth Street in
Manhattan and at well By Messer where we're having that
filler special twenty five percent off yep, this month. You
have to call doctor Carolyn Messler Messer's office. And what
number is that? Well, Noah, we'll tell you it's six
(25:42):
four six seven six zero thirty two fifty six. If
you're interested in the products that we talk about on
the show, it's Amazon. You can't compete with Amazon. They
are an amazing company, and that's where we're selling our
products now. Noah, thanks so much for great engineering. Don't forget, Oh,
I also have the office in Somerset, New Jersey. Don't forget.
I have to mention that. Noah says, all right, thanks
(26:05):
so much for great engineering. Were coming up to twenty
years on WR six o'clock next week. We'll be right back,
Thanks Noah, Bye bye.
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