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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
The public doesn't get a damn.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
And I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face. And he goes, yeah, look at
your face. We're going to do with your fan What
can you do with his face? I go like that,
I s what, I go and look at this, I'm
getting old. I said, I want to maybe get fix
it up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here Ark, and I
want to get a plauged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to talk.
Speaker 6 (00:46):
To Arthur Perry, the best in plastic surgery.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Remarkable knowledge, but also your grace at delivery content which
is why it's been a blessing to have you on
my show so many times.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a me.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
You smart as I really really gifted position. I want
to pay you the highest true I can give to
a surgeon, which is when people come to you, they
don't come for an operation, they come for opinion. And
that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeons nine O two and zero.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Bows to this guy, and welcome. This is Board certified
plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and this is what's your
wrinkle right here on woor. I hope you're all having
a wonderful weekend. Getting a little cold out here in
New York. Those of you listening around the country, Yeah,
it's cold up here. You know. Maybe maybe Florida is
(01:34):
looking up pretty good this time of year, but but
there's a lot of fall left and it's a beautiful
season here. So I'm a Board certified plastic surgeon, and
I treat wrinkles, and I treat small droopy breasts, and
I take fat off of hips. I do facelifs and
eye lid lifts and lasers and botox and things like that.
(01:55):
I've been doing this radio show for twenty years here
on wo R, and it's a call and show. You
can give me a call eight hundred three to two
one zero seven ten. That's the phone number here at
wo R eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
We've got a very busy show schedule for you tonight.
I have a guest coming up to talk about a
(02:17):
really really cool new technology in plastic surgery and dermatology,
about ways to detect skin cancer in a very novel way.
So we're gonna get to that in just a minute.
And we're going to talk about facial lasering because it's
really the season. I'm doing a lot of it now,
and we're going to bring back my longtime co host
(02:41):
Susan Warner for that lasering section of the shows. So
stay tuned. You're gonna want to hear what Susan has
to say about lasering. All right, So let's let's get
right to our interview. We've got Thomas Baihar. He is
a physician's assistant from Elitra Health. Now here's the thing there,
is this brand new technology that involves three D vectra
(03:06):
cameras and AI and it's so complicated. But Tom is here.
Are you on the line? Tom?
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Hi, Doctor Perry. Yes, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Good, good, he's here. You're here to simplify things, to
tell us what this new technology is all about. And
here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I heard about this and I said, you know what,
I love new technology when it comes in and I
wanted to find out a little bit about it. So
I went down to your office on Greenwitch Street in
Manhattan earlier in the week, and I had to scam myself.
First of all, let me just tell the audience. They
know they've listened to the show for a long long time.
(03:46):
But there's five and a half million cases of non
melanoma skin cancer in the United States each year. Over
three and a half million people. A lot of people
have more than one of these basil cell carcinomas and
squams on carcinomas. And there's over two hundred thousand melanomas
each year in the United States. That's a lot. And
(04:07):
everybody's got twenty or thirty of these moles on their bodies.
So how do you distinguish between ones that are dangerous
and ones that are not. So Tom, tell us about
this new technology.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
What does it do you know, as you know, skin
cancer is one of the most common cancers in the world,
and early detection saves lives. So that's why we're super
excited to offer this cutting edge technology like the Vectra
three sixty. And essentially what the system is is an
advanced imaging system that uses high resolution cameras and in
(04:39):
less than a few seconds is going to capture and
create a full three D rendering skin map. And then
after we have that imaging, that skin map, if you will,
in AI powered software goes in analyzes all the spots
on the skin. It'll flag specific ones based off of
patterns and features. And then as a provider, we go
(05:03):
in take a look with the digital the matoscope, the
D two hundred, and we get a risk assessment and
a probability of what likely that lesion is, determine and
discuss with the patient if further treatment is needed, monitoring
or a biopsy.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
All right, So now let's let's simplify that. So I
came into your office, you greeted me and uh and
we talked a little about the about the scan and
the scan. How long does it take? By the way, tell.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Me the the the actual scan itself is less than
five seconds long.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It's incredible, all right. So so Tom said, take off
all your client. Actually, you don't have to take everything
off if you don't want to, but you know you
should because you really want this to be the best
possible scan. So you know, there's privacy. No one's looking
at you. Now's not the time to be modest, right,
you know you have a colonoscopy. They're looking at your
colon and your your ainus, right, so let's let's not
(05:59):
be modest when it comes to your health. So you
go into the computerized camera. There's something like what six
hundred photographs are taken in five seconds.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Tom, Yes, And when you stand inside the machine. I
always like to tell my patients it's just like you know,
tsa airport security. You're standing there positioned arms up the side.
Less than a few seconds a bright flash will occur.
And then as that image is taken, there's hundreds of
images that are pieced together to create this three D avatar,
(06:30):
if you will. And after that, you know, only a
couple of minutes later that image is processed, and then
that's when the providers come in take a look at
all the spots on the skin.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right. So I then got my rob on, I went
into the next room and we waited for the computer
to process the images. As you said, it only takes
a couple of minutes. And then we then you went
ahead and looked at the areas that maybe the computer
doesn't get. You parted my hair, which is great. You
looked at all whatever hair I have left you, and
(07:04):
you look for anything that might be within my hair
and between my toes and the bottom of my feet,
so that virtually the entire body is looked at. And
and then we looked at the images together. The computer
analyzed it. And there's a bunch of moles that I have,
and the average person has twenty to three. I have
something like that. And the coolest thing is the machine
(07:28):
takes all your moles and puts them in, you know,
on the screen, and grades them. Right. What are these
grades like zero to ten or something? Tell me about that.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Yeah, absolutely, so the ones that are flagged where the
system looks at certain patterns and features and what these
what these features are can be you know, in symmetry
in border, irregularities of these moles, different colors and diameter.
You know, we're looking at these larger moles as well,
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and as well as texture, so if you see any crusting, flaking, scaling, inflammation.
Once we have these flagged spots on the skin, we
use this digital scope where it takes another image, a
more in depth image of the spot, and then it
grades it. There's a risk assessment score based off of
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these patterns and these features, and it'll be on a
scale essentially zero to ten, and then it'll also give
you a bargrave, if you will, of a probability percentage
of what likely the diagnosis of that that spot is great.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So then we look together at these and as you said,
there are a couple that were maybe worth a second look.
So you took a dramatoscope that's a handheld it's like
a microscope for the skin, and you took a picture
of the specific ones that the computer flagged the three
D Vectra camera flagged, and then you looked at those
and the AI software it's a really cool, really is
(09:00):
the AI software then looked at it and said, now,
this is most likely a sebarea caratosis, and in my case.
Fortunately I didn't have anything important. But if you had
a melanoma or a basil cell carcinoma or something like that,
you would you would then tell the patient. The patient
would be referred to someone like me, a plastic surgeon,
(09:21):
or a dermatologist, or whomever was appropriate.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Correct, Tom, Yeah, absolutely, And if any spots on the
skin are looking suspicious, you know, we do biopsy shave
biopsies right there in the office where we take a
little piece of that that's that skin, send it off
to the lab to get a full definitive diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I'm speaking with Thomas Bahar. He is a physician's a
dermatology physicians assistant at Eleitra Medical and and Elitra. It's
It's an incredible office on Greenwitch Street, two fifty five
Greenwitch Street. Easy to get to by a public transportation.
I took the subway. Took your life in your hands.
(10:00):
Oh no, really the subway to take it all the time,
and got down there very quickly from my office in
the upper East side of Manhattan and did the scan.
It takes your in and out of the office in
less than half an hour. It's pretty quick, isn't a Tom?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah? It's a very quick appointment. The you know, from
start to finish, it's about twenty to thirty minutes long.
You know, like like you mentioned to the scan itself
is only a few seconds, and then the processing of
the image and then the discussion and the discussion between
me and the patient could take however long, you know,
open to all questions if we need follow up, and
(10:35):
then I also discuss about you know, some protection as well.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
All right, So now if if listeners to this show
are interested, and you should be, because you know, this
is part of good health. We all get our colonoscopies,
we get hopefully you have EKGs, you see maybe a
cardiologist every now and then you see your general doctor
and and it's all part of of maintaining your health.
(11:01):
Women get pap smears and men get their PSA tested
and H and maintaining your health and H and not
running away from things is is very important. So this
is a good comprehensive skin analysis and it'll tell you
whether you have anything uh to be concerned with or
whether or not you know you're good, come on back
(11:22):
next year. Whatever. So, Tom, what's the phone number over
there at Eleitra Health.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
So the phone number is six four six three six
two four five four two, and you can make an
appointment online on our website or through the phone. And
I have the website here, doctor Perry, if you don't
mind me, you know, telling the audience. It's yeah, it's
www dot Eleitra health dot com. And then you can
(11:48):
select dermatology or if you want to go directly into
the website, it's ww dot Eleitra health dot com. Backslash,
skin dash, cancer dash screening, dash program backslash. I know
that was a long one, so whatever is that's a
lot that appointment.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I think it's easier to give the call six four
six three six two forty five forty two. So this
is brand new technology that Eleitra has. It's you know,
I've got the very junior version of version of the
vector camera, the three D camera in my office that
I look at wrinkles and things like that. This looks
at these lesions, that's what we call them, you know,
(12:30):
pigmented lesions, skin cancers, things like that. And I think
there's only you told me there's only two of these
machines in New York ones. That's sloan kettering. You have
to wait months and months and months to see that
one and the other is yours, right.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Yes, there's only two in the New York State, and
like you said, Memorial Sloan Kettering has one in their
dermatology department, and we have the other one. And our
appointments are open, so you know, we can get you
in whatever is most convenient for you.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
All right, Tom Bayheart, thank you so much for taking
time on your Saturday evening. It's Elitra Health. That's the
name of your practice, and on Granitt Street. It's two
fifty five Grennitt Street right there in Tribeca in Manhattan.
And then this is incredible technology. I did it. I
loved it. I think it's important. I'm gonna send family
(13:20):
members and it is. It's it's the coolest thing. And
I love that AI analyzes these image images, you know AI.
They say, is AI going to replace doctors? No, no, no,
but it's going to enhance the diagnostic capabilities of in medicine.
And I think that's great. All right, Tom, thanks so much,
have a great evening.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Absolutely, thank you so much, Doctor Perry. It's been great
speaking with you.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Thanks so much. All right, there's more to the show.
Stay tuned eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
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Come on?
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by the way, live from the Hampton's from sag Harbor,
New York. Beautiful sag Harbor, and I have rescued Susan
Warner out of oblivion. Yes, many of you know, you know,
I had a comment this week that Susan made my
show so much better.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I'm not kidding, Perry, You're too flattering.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yep. She was the greatest co host since Mike Roysen.
And you know I try very hard to get her
to do them. Well, she's on because I did a
procedure on were just violated hip a regulation, that's right.
So Susan had a fractionated laser peel in my office
(16:43):
this week, just a couple of days ago, and she's
alive to talk about it. So all right, well what
is this for? Well, this is uh as we get
older and Susan, you know, you're a pediatric patient, but
you've got some wrinkles and some splotchy pigmentation of your face,
a little rough skin, perfect candidate for a laser peel,
(17:06):
and so you know the laser can help with those wrinkles.
But it's one of those you know, no pain, no
gain procedures, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I've been kicking around facelift versus laser for about a
year now, and I had resigned myself to the facelift.
And you said, I don't think so. I think that
you're a laser candidate. My problem wasn't so much drooping,
but fine, fine wrinkles, fine lines. So I woke up
the other morning, called the office and said, can you
squeeze me in please? You said, I'm free at the
(17:36):
end of the day, and here I am today.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
There is so sooner.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Here I am.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
She came into the and it was good because she
didn't get too nervous. She didn't have much time to
get nervous. Right.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I don't suggest everybody do that, but I woke up
and said I got to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She did it, okay, So you know there are different
procedures that I do for wrinkles. There are TCA peels, trichl.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Why did I get a laser and and.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Laser PILs Well, TCA peel they they both are really
pretty good at getting rid of splotchy pigmentation, right right,
So if you really have wrinkles, now at TCA peel
foreign lines. Yeah, well whatever, if TCA peel will help
some of the very fine lines around the eyes, right,
the my problem, no, but you had pretty deep wrinkles, Susan,
(18:22):
your forehead and your cheeks and your upper lip yep, yep.
So I looked at you, and now there's different ways
to do that. We can pre medicate if you want.
Some people get something like percocet beforehand. Susan said, no,
just give me the silver bullet.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
I am I have a high pain threshold. But I
have to say I would suggest for patients that they
do pre medicate for anxiety in what you're going through,
because it's an hour and a half. And for paint.
I am not that person. I did not want the
block and I took out phil but in hindsight, I
think I would have.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Taken something okay. So what we do, though, is we
use Amla cream, which is a lyighta cane cream. Put
it on your skin and it soaks in over about
a half an hour, and that does help. And then
most people, but not Susan, I will numb up the
forehead and I will numb up around the mouth with
Lyta cane like I do for filler. So we get
(19:17):
most of your face numb and then I go to town.
So I have what's called a fractionated carbon dioxide laser
in my office on Park Avenue in Manhattan, and we
protect you. Right, there's a that was astounding.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
So doctor Perry is I think a little bit different
and a little bit more protective than most doctors. He
put in stainless steel contact lenses in my eyes and
a mouthguard, which I am very appreciative of because I
don't need a blackened tooth and I don't need ie damage.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And you know, some people do take shortcuts. And I
know that there are plastic surgeons, dermatologists, other doctors that
even delegate this to people in their office, which I
think is crazy.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, and you know, you have to be a real
doctor craftsmanship.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I mean I could even feel that. I could feel
the craftsmanship when he was laser in my face because
I know where my sore sparts are and he definitely
saw them and those were the ones he concentrated on
and I could feel that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So what we do is that I protect your eyes
and I protect your teeth. That's very important. And I
know that there are some of these places, storefront places
where the younger guy, the younger people are going to
you know, we won't mention the types of lasers in
the names. There's all these different names. Oh you can
name one. I don't name these things, but yeah, you know,
(20:36):
these are very very light laser procedures. But I do
you know, I think if you're gonna have the procedure,
you should get your money's worth, all right, and you
should also get a benefit. And I can go so
lightly with the laser that you barely see. Like on
your neck, I went very very lightly because the neck
tends to skin.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
It just feels like a little bit of rough skin,
unlike my face.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And that's what I do in the and that's what
I do in the back of the hands. When I
do the hands, I go very very lightly. But where
you have those pretty deep wrinkles, yes, fine lines of
your forehead around your mouth, we need to go deeper.
And so I set the laser. Now, the laser can
be set at so light that you can barely see
(21:19):
that it's doing anything, or so deep, so heavy, so
hard that I can remove your skin completely. Yeah, So
you know, I judge it based on the thickness of
the skin, the wrinkles of the skin, the person, how
healthy they are. And I make a decision and I
do a number of passes. That means I go over
(21:41):
the skin with a particular energy intensity and density to
the laser beam, and I'll adjust it based on your wrinkles,
your brown spots, things like that. So we go over
a couple of times and then I've got my little
regimen that using your on it. Now, any raw areas,
(22:03):
I put sylvadine. That's a antibiotic cream on. Right.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You love that one well, But to understand the procedure
is about an hour and a half. It was intense
and you feel it, but I think that the outcome
will be incredible. I will say that doctor Perry's care
and exactitude is major and I don't know how patient
gets through it without being able to consult him on
how to wash it, what to do if you prematurely
(22:27):
peel like I did to prevent infection, what you put
on your skin. Everybody has this idea that you put
aquafor on it, and that's not what you put on it.
And he's very exact and very precise. You have to
send pictures every day. And I think it's that exactitude
and that professionalism and that talent that gets the results
that he gets.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And this is not an instant peel, by the way,
so you don't come out of the office and say, wow,
look at me, no wrinkles, No, no.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I looked good come out of the office.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
When you make up next you had a little bit
of swell.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
That it was on the initial high, right, But what.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Happens I like to tell people the day after surgery,
it looks like you, well, maybe we're exposed to a
small nuclear bomb.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
It definitely looks like that. It doesn't. It's tight and
it doesn't hurt. It's slightly uncomfortable. It does not hurt,
but it's a little off putting when you look in
the mirror.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And it takes anywhere from five to seven days to
complete the peel. And that's with kind of intensive skin
therapy with different creams that some steroid cream, some antibiotic cream,
some moisturizer creams, different ones.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
It takes you through it step by step by step
and personalizes your recovery and that's really important.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And the goal is that you were going to look
absolutely gorgeous as if you don't already, Susan.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But it is not for the fainthearted. It is a
major procedure and it's a.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Lot yep, absolutely no game. But I want to thank
you for undergoing the procedure and for coming on the
radio and telling people about you know, so many people
have procedures. I do, lots and lots of people and
they hide and they don't tell anyone, and me, you know, yeah,
I think it's great. And although you did get some
scares and stares rather in Cinderella today, but what the heck?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
And then I just fa I just say to them
I've had laser. I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah anyway, So thank you so much, and we'll bring
you back after you've healed completely, and hopefully you won't
be swearing at me.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Hopefully you'll say, wow, this is terrific. Thanks so much.
Susan Warner the best co host. And by the way,
don't forget Susan still has a book on Amazon and
Amazon dot com. She you can buy I never.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Never say always there you go, profound grief.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Okay, so buy that book. So no, thank you for
great engineering. If anyone is interested in the products that
we talk about on the show, yes, it's Amazon, just
the same place you can buy Susan's book Amazon dot com.
You can purchase the various ointments, creams, things so amazing
that I have and then I have my patients use
after the laser. And if you're interested in me you know,
(25:04):
it's Perry Plasticsurgery dot Com. I've got an office on
Park Avenue in eighty fifth and also I'm with well
By Messer on sixtieth Street, which is between Park and Lexington,
and of course still in Somerset, New Jersey. Give me
a call during the week. Two one two seven five three,
eighteen twenty. Noah Fleischmann, thank you so much for the
(25:26):
best engineering. Susan Warner. I wish you would come back
as a permanent co host.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You are the best.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
She's the best. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Thank you procedure.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I'm I'm happy to and thanks to Elitra Hell for
coming on the show and talking about that brand new technology.
All right, tune in next week six o'clock right here
on WR And we didn't get to the phone call today,
but it's two point two seven five three, eighteen twenty.
That's my office. It's eight hundred three two one zero
seven ten if you want to call the show. Thanks
(25:56):
so much, Noah, see all next week, Bye bye please.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
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And I went to his office and I said, I said,
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your face. We're going to do with your fan What
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I s what, I go and look at this, I'm
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don't come for an operation, they come for opinion. And
that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeons nine O two and zero.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Bows to this guy, and welcome. This is Board certified
plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and this is what's your
wrinkle right here on woor. I hope you're all having
a wonderful weekend. Getting a little cold out here in
New York. Those of you listening around the country, Yeah,
it's cold up here. You know. Maybe maybe Florida is
(01:34):
looking up pretty good this time of year, but but
there's a lot of fall left and it's a beautiful
season here. So I'm a Board certified plastic surgeon, and
I treat wrinkles, and I treat small droopy breasts, and
I take fat off of hips. I do facelifs and
eye lid lifts and lasers and botox and things like that.
(01:55):
I've been doing this radio show for twenty years here
on wo R, and it's a call and show. You
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wo R eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
We've got a very busy show schedule for you tonight.
I have a guest coming up to talk about a
(02:17):
really really cool new technology in plastic surgery and dermatology,
about ways to detect skin cancer in a very novel way.
So we're gonna get to that in just a minute.
And we're going to talk about facial lasering because it's
really the season. I'm doing a lot of it now,
and we're going to bring back my longtime co host
(02:41):
Susan Warner for that lasering section of the shows. So
stay tuned. You're gonna want to hear what Susan has
to say about lasering. All right, So let's let's get
right to our interview. We've got Thomas Baihar. He is
a physician's assistant from Elitra Health. Now here's the thing there,
is this brand new technology that involves three D vectra
(03:06):
cameras and AI and it's so complicated. But Tom is here.
Are you on the line? Tom?
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Hi, Doctor Perry. Yes, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Good, good, he's here. You're here to simplify things, to
tell us what this new technology is all about. And
here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I heard about this and I said, you know what,
I love new technology when it comes in and I
wanted to find out a little bit about it. So
I went down to your office on Greenwitch Street in
Manhattan earlier in the week, and I had to scam myself.
First of all, let me just tell the audience. They
know they've listened to the show for a long long time.
(03:46):
But there's five and a half million cases of non
melanoma skin cancer in the United States each year. Over
three and a half million people. A lot of people
have more than one of these basil cell carcinomas and
squams on carcinomas. And there's over two hundred thousand melanomas
each year in the United States. That's a lot. And
(04:07):
everybody's got twenty or thirty of these moles on their bodies.
So how do you distinguish between ones that are dangerous
and ones that are not. So Tom, tell us about
this new technology.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
What does it do you know, as you know, skin
cancer is one of the most common cancers in the world,
and early detection saves lives. So that's why we're super
excited to offer this cutting edge technology like the Vectra
three sixty. And essentially what the system is is an
advanced imaging system that uses high resolution cameras and in
(04:39):
less than a few seconds is going to capture and
create a full three D rendering skin map. And then
after we have that imaging, that skin map, if you will,
in AI powered software goes in analyzes all the spots
on the skin. It'll flag specific ones based off of
patterns and features. And then as a provider, we go
(05:03):
in take a look with the digital the matoscope, the
D two hundred, and we get a risk assessment and
a probability of what likely that lesion is, determine and
discuss with the patient if further treatment is needed, monitoring
or a biopsy.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
All right, So now let's let's simplify that. So I
came into your office, you greeted me and uh and
we talked a little about the about the scan and
the scan. How long does it take? By the way, tell.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Me the the the actual scan itself is less than
five seconds long.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It's incredible, all right. So so Tom said, take off
all your client. Actually, you don't have to take everything
off if you don't want to, but you know you
should because you really want this to be the best
possible scan. So you know, there's privacy. No one's looking
at you. Now's not the time to be modest, right,
you know you have a colonoscopy. They're looking at your
colon and your your ainus, right, so let's let's not
(05:59):
be modest when it comes to your health. So you
go into the computerized camera. There's something like what six
hundred photographs are taken in five seconds.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Tom, Yes, And when you stand inside the machine. I
always like to tell my patients it's just like you know,
tsa airport security. You're standing there positioned arms up the side.
Less than a few seconds a bright flash will occur.
And then as that image is taken, there's hundreds of
images that are pieced together to create this three D avatar,
(06:30):
if you will. And after that, you know, only a
couple of minutes later that image is processed, and then
that's when the providers come in take a look at
all the spots on the skin.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right. So I then got my rob on, I went
into the next room and we waited for the computer
to process the images. As you said, it only takes
a couple of minutes. And then we then you went
ahead and looked at the areas that maybe the computer
doesn't get. You parted my hair, which is great. You
looked at all whatever hair I have left you, and
(07:04):
you look for anything that might be within my hair
and between my toes and the bottom of my feet,
so that virtually the entire body is looked at. And
and then we looked at the images together. The computer
analyzed it. And there's a bunch of moles that I have,
and the average person has twenty to three. I have
something like that. And the coolest thing is the machine
(07:28):
takes all your moles and puts them in, you know,
on the screen, and grades them. Right. What are these
grades like zero to ten or something? Tell me about that.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Yeah, absolutely, so the ones that are flagged where the
system looks at certain patterns and features and what these
what these features are can be you know, in symmetry
in border, irregularities of these moles, different colors and diameter.
You know, we're looking at these larger moles as well,
(07:58):
and as well as texture, so if you see any crusting, flaking, scaling, inflammation.
Once we have these flagged spots on the skin, we
use this digital scope where it takes another image, a
more in depth image of the spot, and then it
grades it. There's a risk assessment score based off of
(08:20):
these patterns and these features, and it'll be on a
scale essentially zero to ten, and then it'll also give
you a bargrave, if you will, of a probability percentage
of what likely the diagnosis of that that spot is great.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So then we look together at these and as you said,
there are a couple that were maybe worth a second look.
So you took a dramatoscope that's a handheld it's like
a microscope for the skin, and you took a picture
of the specific ones that the computer flagged the three
D Vectra camera flagged, and then you looked at those
and the AI software it's a really cool, really is
(09:00):
the AI software then looked at it and said, now,
this is most likely a sebarea caratosis, and in my case.
Fortunately I didn't have anything important. But if you had
a melanoma or a basil cell carcinoma or something like that,
you would you would then tell the patient. The patient
would be referred to someone like me, a plastic surgeon,
(09:21):
or a dermatologist, or whomever was appropriate.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Correct, Tom, Yeah, absolutely, And if any spots on the
skin are looking suspicious, you know, we do biopsy shave
biopsies right there in the office where we take a
little piece of that that's that skin, send it off
to the lab to get a full definitive diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I'm speaking with Thomas Bahar. He is a physician's a
dermatology physicians assistant at Eleitra Medical and and Elitra. It's
It's an incredible office on Greenwitch Street, two fifty five
Greenwitch Street. Easy to get to by a public transportation.
I took the subway. Took your life in your hands.
(10:00):
Oh no, really the subway to take it all the time,
and got down there very quickly from my office in
the upper East side of Manhattan and did the scan.
It takes your in and out of the office in
less than half an hour. It's pretty quick, isn't a Tom?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah? It's a very quick appointment. The you know, from
start to finish, it's about twenty to thirty minutes long.
You know, like like you mentioned to the scan itself
is only a few seconds, and then the processing of
the image and then the discussion and the discussion between
me and the patient could take however long, you know,
open to all questions if we need follow up, and
(10:35):
then I also discuss about you know, some protection as well.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
All right, So now if if listeners to this show
are interested, and you should be, because you know, this
is part of good health. We all get our colonoscopies,
we get hopefully you have EKGs, you see maybe a
cardiologist every now and then you see your general doctor
and and it's all part of of maintaining your health.
(11:01):
Women get pap smears and men get their PSA tested
and H and maintaining your health and H and not
running away from things is is very important. So this
is a good comprehensive skin analysis and it'll tell you
whether you have anything uh to be concerned with or
whether or not you know you're good, come on back
(11:22):
next year. Whatever. So, Tom, what's the phone number over
there at Eleitra Health.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
So the phone number is six four six three six
two four five four two, and you can make an
appointment online on our website or through the phone. And
I have the website here, doctor Perry, if you don't
mind me, you know, telling the audience. It's yeah, it's
www dot Eleitra health dot com. And then you can
(11:48):
select dermatology or if you want to go directly into
the website, it's ww dot Eleitra health dot com. Backslash,
skin dash, cancer dash screening, dash program backslash. I know
that was a long one, so whatever is that's a
lot that appointment.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I think it's easier to give the call six four
six three six two forty five forty two. So this
is brand new technology that Eleitra has. It's you know,
I've got the very junior version of version of the
vector camera, the three D camera in my office that
I look at wrinkles and things like that. This looks
at these lesions, that's what we call them, you know,
(12:30):
pigmented lesions, skin cancers, things like that. And I think
there's only you told me there's only two of these
machines in New York ones. That's sloan kettering. You have
to wait months and months and months to see that
one and the other is yours, right.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Yes, there's only two in the New York State, and
like you said, Memorial Sloan Kettering has one in their
dermatology department, and we have the other one. And our
appointments are open, so you know, we can get you
in whatever is most convenient for you.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
All right, Tom Bayheart, thank you so much for taking
time on your Saturday evening. It's Elitra Health. That's the
name of your practice, and on Granitt Street. It's two
fifty five Grennitt Street right there in Tribeca in Manhattan.
And then this is incredible technology. I did it. I
loved it. I think it's important. I'm gonna send family
(13:20):
members and it is. It's it's the coolest thing. And
I love that AI analyzes these image images, you know AI.
They say, is AI going to replace doctors? No, no, no,
but it's going to enhance the diagnostic capabilities of in medicine.
And I think that's great. All right, Tom, thanks so much,
have a great evening.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Absolutely, thank you so much, Doctor Perry. It's been great
speaking with you.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Thanks so much. All right, there's more to the show.
Stay tuned eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
That's the phone number here at w R. Give us
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(15:07):
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Speaker 7 (15:15):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You should really do this. You go on to iHeart
Podcasts or Apple Podcasts, search for either my name or
the words cosmetic surgery the name of my podcast. This
show on in the podcast world to straight talk about
cosmetic surgery. So when you do go to it, you
hit this subscribe button. I know Susan does that. I
(15:37):
do it, and you should also. It's good for me,
it's good for you. You can learn all about cosmetic
surgery without having to be tied to this specific time.
But if you're listening on the podcast, well it's six
to six thirty, you can call the show eight hundred
three two one zero seven ten. That is the phone
number all right in the studio right now, we're broadcasting,
(15:58):
by the way, live from the Hampton's from sag Harbor,
New York. Beautiful sag Harbor, and I have rescued Susan
Warner out of oblivion. Yes, many of you know, you know,
I had a comment this week that Susan made my
show so much better.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I'm not kidding, Perry, You're too flattering.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yep. She was the greatest co host since Mike Roysen.
And you know I try very hard to get her
to do them. Well, she's on because I did a
procedure on were just violated hip a regulation, that's right.
So Susan had a fractionated laser peel in my office
(16:43):
this week, just a couple of days ago, and she's
alive to talk about it. So all right, well what
is this for? Well, this is uh as we get
older and Susan, you know, you're a pediatric patient, but
you've got some wrinkles and some splotchy pigmentation of your face,
a little rough skin, perfect candidate for a laser peel,
(17:06):
and so you know the laser can help with those wrinkles.
But it's one of those you know, no pain, no
gain procedures, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I've been kicking around facelift versus laser for about a
year now, and I had resigned myself to the facelift.
And you said, I don't think so. I think that
you're a laser candidate. My problem wasn't so much drooping,
but fine, fine wrinkles, fine lines. So I woke up
the other morning, called the office and said, can you
squeeze me in please? You said, I'm free at the
(17:36):
end of the day, and here I am today.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
There is so sooner.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Here I am.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
She came into the and it was good because she
didn't get too nervous. She didn't have much time to
get nervous. Right.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I don't suggest everybody do that, but I woke up
and said I got to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She did it, okay, So you know there are different
procedures that I do for wrinkles. There are TCA peels, trichl.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Why did I get a laser and and.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Laser PILs Well, TCA peel they they both are really
pretty good at getting rid of splotchy pigmentation, right right,
So if you really have wrinkles, now at TCA peel
foreign lines. Yeah, well whatever, if TCA peel will help
some of the very fine lines around the eyes, right,
the my problem, no, but you had pretty deep wrinkles, Susan,
(18:22):
your forehead and your cheeks and your upper lip yep, yep.
So I looked at you, and now there's different ways
to do that. We can pre medicate if you want.
Some people get something like percocet beforehand. Susan said, no,
just give me the silver bullet.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
I am I have a high pain threshold. But I
have to say I would suggest for patients that they
do pre medicate for anxiety in what you're going through,
because it's an hour and a half. And for paint.
I am not that person. I did not want the
block and I took out phil but in hindsight, I
think I would have.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Taken something okay. So what we do, though, is we
use Amla cream, which is a lyighta cane cream. Put
it on your skin and it soaks in over about
a half an hour, and that does help. And then
most people, but not Susan, I will numb up the
forehead and I will numb up around the mouth with
Lyta cane like I do for filler. So we get
(19:17):
most of your face numb and then I go to town.
So I have what's called a fractionated carbon dioxide laser
in my office on Park Avenue in Manhattan, and we
protect you. Right, there's a that was astounding.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
So doctor Perry is I think a little bit different
and a little bit more protective than most doctors. He
put in stainless steel contact lenses in my eyes and
a mouthguard, which I am very appreciative of because I
don't need a blackened tooth and I don't need ie damage.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And you know, some people do take shortcuts. And I
know that there are plastic surgeons, dermatologists, other doctors that
even delegate this to people in their office, which I
think is crazy.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, and you know, you have to be a real
doctor craftsmanship.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I mean I could even feel that. I could feel
the craftsmanship when he was laser in my face because
I know where my sore sparts are and he definitely
saw them and those were the ones he concentrated on
and I could feel that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So what we do is that I protect your eyes
and I protect your teeth. That's very important. And I
know that there are some of these places, storefront places
where the younger guy, the younger people are going to
you know, we won't mention the types of lasers in
the names. There's all these different names. Oh you can
name one. I don't name these things, but yeah, you know,
(20:36):
these are very very light laser procedures. But I do
you know, I think if you're gonna have the procedure,
you should get your money's worth, all right, and you
should also get a benefit. And I can go so
lightly with the laser that you barely see. Like on
your neck, I went very very lightly because the neck
tends to skin.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
It just feels like a little bit of rough skin,
unlike my face.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And that's what I do in the and that's what
I do in the back of the hands. When I
do the hands, I go very very lightly. But where
you have those pretty deep wrinkles, yes, fine lines of
your forehead around your mouth, we need to go deeper.
And so I set the laser. Now, the laser can
be set at so light that you can barely see
(21:19):
that it's doing anything, or so deep, so heavy, so
hard that I can remove your skin completely. Yeah, So
you know, I judge it based on the thickness of
the skin, the wrinkles of the skin, the person, how
healthy they are. And I make a decision and I
do a number of passes. That means I go over
(21:41):
the skin with a particular energy intensity and density to
the laser beam, and I'll adjust it based on your wrinkles,
your brown spots, things like that. So we go over
a couple of times and then I've got my little
regimen that using your on it. Now, any raw areas,
(22:03):
I put sylvadine. That's a antibiotic cream on. Right.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You love that one well, But to understand the procedure
is about an hour and a half. It was intense
and you feel it, but I think that the outcome
will be incredible. I will say that doctor Perry's care
and exactitude is major and I don't know how patient
gets through it without being able to consult him on
how to wash it, what to do if you prematurely
(22:27):
peel like I did to prevent infection, what you put
on your skin. Everybody has this idea that you put
aquafor on it, and that's not what you put on it.
And he's very exact and very precise. You have to
send pictures every day. And I think it's that exactitude
and that professionalism and that talent that gets the results
that he gets.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And this is not an instant peel, by the way,
so you don't come out of the office and say, wow,
look at me, no wrinkles, No, no.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I looked good come out of the office.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
When you make up next you had a little bit
of swell.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
That it was on the initial high, right, But what.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Happens I like to tell people the day after surgery,
it looks like you, well, maybe we're exposed to a
small nuclear bomb.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
It definitely looks like that. It doesn't. It's tight and
it doesn't hurt. It's slightly uncomfortable. It does not hurt,
but it's a little off putting when you look in
the mirror.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And it takes anywhere from five to seven days to
complete the peel. And that's with kind of intensive skin
therapy with different creams that some steroid cream, some antibiotic cream,
some moisturizer creams, different ones.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
It takes you through it step by step by step
and personalizes your recovery and that's really important.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And the goal is that you were going to look
absolutely gorgeous as if you don't already, Susan.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But it is not for the fainthearted. It is a
major procedure and it's a.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Lot yep, absolutely no game. But I want to thank
you for undergoing the procedure and for coming on the
radio and telling people about you know, so many people
have procedures. I do, lots and lots of people and
they hide and they don't tell anyone, and me, you know, yeah,
I think it's great. And although you did get some
scares and stares rather in Cinderella today, but what the heck?
Speaker 6 (24:12):
And then I just fa I just say to them
I've had laser. I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah anyway, So thank you so much, and we'll bring
you back after you've healed completely, and hopefully you won't
be swearing at me.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Hopefully you'll say, wow, this is terrific. Thanks so much.
Susan Warner the best co host. And by the way,
don't forget Susan still has a book on Amazon and
Amazon dot com. She you can buy I never.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Never say always there you go, profound grief.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Okay, so buy that book. So no, thank you for
great engineering. If anyone is interested in the products that
we talk about on the show, yes, it's Amazon, just
the same place you can buy Susan's book Amazon dot com.
You can purchase the various ointments, creams, things so amazing
that I have and then I have my patients use
after the laser. And if you're interested in me you know,
(25:04):
it's Perry Plasticsurgery dot Com. I've got an office on
Park Avenue in eighty fifth and also I'm with well
By Messer on sixtieth Street, which is between Park and Lexington,
and of course still in Somerset, New Jersey. Give me
a call during the week. Two one two seven five three,
eighteen twenty. Noah Fleischmann, thank you so much for the
(25:26):
best engineering. Susan Warner. I wish you would come back
as a permanent co host.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You are the best.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
She's the best. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Thank you procedure.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I'm I'm happy to and thanks to Elitra Hell for
coming on the show and talking about that brand new technology.
All right, tune in next week six o'clock right here
on WR And we didn't get to the phone call today,
but it's two point two seven five three, eighteen twenty.
That's my office. It's eight hundred three two one zero
seven ten if you want to call the show. Thanks
(25:56):
so much, Noah, see all next week, Bye bye please.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
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constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or the
ideas expressed.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.