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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey, you know, and
he's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know the
public doesn't get a damn.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face, and he goes, yeah, look at
your face.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We're going to do with your fan what can you
do with his face? I go like that, I saw
what I got. I go look at this. I'm getting old.
I said, I want to maybe get fix it up
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here, Ark, and I
want to get a plauged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to
talk to.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Arthur Perry the best in plastic.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Surgery and workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivering content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
A smart as I really really gift his position. I
want to pay you the highest true I can give
to a surgeon, which is when people come to you,
they don't come for an operation, they come for an opinion.
And that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
I didn't realize we were gonna get the Michael Jordan
of Plastic Surgeons nine two and zero bows to this guide.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And welcome. This is Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
and you are listening to What's Your Wrinkle right here
on WR and broadcasting on the podcast. It's a straight
talk about cosmetic surgery. I'm a Board certified plastic surgeon.
This show is about you. It's about your wrinkles, It's
about your jows. It's about little breasts and big breasts
(01:37):
and fat around the hips and Tommy tucks and all
the things that plastic surgeons do. That's what I do
all day long. And I've been doing this show broadcasting
on WR for twenty years with Noah in the studio
and sometimes I have some co hosts. Last week we
had doctor Michael Royson come back onto the show, and this.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Week, who do I have? Who is this? Susan Warner?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It is Susan Warner has come out of retirement. I
got her out of the swimming pool to come back
on the show. She's got some pithy remarks she's going
to make.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well today.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I want to take your phone calls. The number is
eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. That's the
phone number at WAR And we're going to talk about
low risk procedures with no downtime or minimal downtimes. That's
what we'll talk about today. And we're also going to
talk about this is what got Susan's attention and got
her out of retirement. Do you need a cosmetic surgery
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broker to help find your surgeon?
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I have so much to say about it.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh she does, Okay, all right, we're going to get
into that in just a few minutes. We'll give callers
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That's what we're giving out today. Two callers to the show,
eight hundred and three to two, one zero seven ten.
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That's the phone number at wor SO. Because Susan is here,
let's go ahead and start with that topic first. So
do you know what a plastic surgery broker is, Susan? Well,
I do, now you do, because there was a big
article and Yes's New York Times about this and that
got my attention. And well, it's a person that you
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hire as a patient to steer you to a plastic
surgeon who will do your procedure. And it's supposed to
be a person that knows everything about plastic surgery and
will find you a great plastic surgeon. And you would
think that would be an independent plastic surgeon, right, Susan.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I have so much to say about this. What's the criteria,
what's the compensation, what is the expertise?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, all good questions. So this particular person, and we're
not gonna mention her name. You can check her out
in the New York Times, But this particular person charges
seven hundred fifty dollars for a one hour consultation with her.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Is she a physician, Susan, No, she is. Is she
a dentist? Is she a nurse? Is she an esthetician? Okay,
so what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So that means she's just a person who is giving
her opinion, giving her opinion as to who you should
go to.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
And how does she call her stable of doctors?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Pray tell, that's a good question. That that's a very
good question. So I don't know personal personal compensation. How
do you decide who is the best doctor? Is that?
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I know a lot of plastic surgeons. And I know
a lot of plastic surgeons at Cornell and Columbia and
all the medical schools that I have been associated with
who are incredible plastic surgeons who don't market. All good, Yeah,
but what about all those plastic surgeons that are really
big marketers and they're out there on Instagram, and and
do they pay this person to I've.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Seen work done by those people that market and those
people that use PR and I have to say it's
enormously disappointing with charlottean fees.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, Charlotte and Fiece and enormous. And so if you
take this person, you pay seven hundred and fifty dollars,
you sit down with her and she's or associates or yeah,
three hundred fifty dollars an hour for some junior associates,
and they will then apparently they don't examine you because
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they're not clinical people, so they call you clients not patients,
and they recommend, they will recommend what procedures and who
should do that procedure. And then I believe they've had
some relationships with the plastic surgeons, so it's not as
altruistic as you think.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
They haven't just.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Looked at the database and looked at the universe of
all the procedures out there, and who really is doing it?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You should ai, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So yeah, you know, so I've got all sorts of issues,
and a lot of plastic surgeons have a lot of issues.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Effical element of this seems extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, technically, technically you might say that this is not legal.
And the reason is you're not allowed to fee split
in plastic surgery and in medicine, so I can't. Let's
say I have a referring doctor, a good referra in
internal medicine doctor who sends me a patient, and can
I send them ten percent or twenty percent of the
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fee thank you so much? Here you go, No, of
course you can't. That's illegal. Now lawyers can do that,
but that is illegal in medicine. You can lose your
license for that. So you know, is there a way
that they do this? Apparently there are some lawsuits with
this particular person that you can read the New York Times,
and they talk about different doctors that were they said, well,
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they paid a certain amount of money to this person
and she didn't come through with these referrals. Well, it's
very questionable. At many levels. So Susan, hold your thoughts,
You've got a lot of them. We're going to take
a short break. I'm Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
sitting here in the Hamptons in sag Harbor, New York.
Beautiful location, look out the window with Susan Warner, who
(08:03):
was my co host for a few years and loved
working with me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Why are you not? We'll get into that later.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Eight hundred and three two one zero seven ten is
the phone number here at WR Give me a call.
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Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry. What's your Wrinkle?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And we are back.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'm word certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, most of
What's Your Wrinkle right here on WOR And I hope
you're having a great weekend and using your sun screen
today was a It was a UV index.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I was surprised it was only a seven. Seven.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, I thought it would be a little hotter, little
more intense. But anything over three and you do need
your sunscreen otherwise you know what happens to your skin.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
I have to tell you, I'm so impressed with the
younger generation how they are sunscreening their children.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yes, but they are still using spray sunscreen, which is
a no no.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Well I don't know about that, but I I'll say
long sleeve bathing suits and hats and faces out of
the sun, and they are just smarter than we were.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, definitely our generation, Susan. You know what people did.
They sat there, they intensified, having those mirrors on their face, right, reflectors,
they put baby oil on, so you know, I'm not
sure what that really was supposed to do. And they
certainly didn't use sunscreen. You and I both know some
people who still sit in the sun for hours and
hours and hours. I'll be seeing them for the basil
(10:30):
cell carcinomas that they are creating as we speak. All right, Well,
we were talking about these plastic surgery brokers. Those are
people that you pay to find the best plastic.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Surgeon to do your job. Would you do this, Susan,
Would you go to one?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
You know, I can tell you one step further. Not
only would I not go to one, but are you
going to do that for a heart surgeon? Are you
going to do the for an orthopedist? Are you going to
do that for every aspect of medicine? Go to a
list that's called by someone so that you can get
what you think is the best procedure for you without doing.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Your own homework, right and how do you know?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So, I mean, I suppose in a perfect world where
there was a reasonable fee and you could honestly get
an opinion like who is the best plastic surgeon for
this job?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Now? How does that person know who?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
And what is the best there are?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And the other thing is there are some academic faculty
members that I know that are some incredible surgeons and
they don't even get on the best doctor lists because
they don't play the game. They don't do the Instagram,
and they don't schmooze, they don't go to the country clubs.
They just they just sit there in the opera opera
doing absolutely beautiful surgery. So yeah, absolutely amazing. So how
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do you find the best plastic surgeon without going to
one of these ridiculous brokers to find you a plastic surgeon? Well,
it starts with looking at the educational background. And by
the way, I wrote a book about this, straight Talk
about cosmetic surgery. There's an entire chapter on choosing your
plastic surgeon. You don't need to go to a broker.
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What you need to do is be able to look
and do a little homework on your own, not a lot.
You don't have to do a lot, though. It starts
with finding a plastic surgeon that's that is certified by
the American Board of Plastic Surgery. How do you do that?
Go to the website of the American Board of Plastic Surgery.
They list every Board certified plastic surgeon in the country.
Now there might be a good plastic surgeon that's not
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Board certified, but you know, I know that it is
the single most important thing for someone in their residency.
We all aim for board certification, and if you're not
Board certified, there's something wrong. So Number one, you want
to find a doctor that's Board certified, certified by the
American Board of Plastic Surgery. Number two is check out
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the medical school that the doctor went to. You know,
we know the best medical schools in the United States.
You know Columbia and Cornet and Harvard and all these
great schools.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We know those.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know those, and you can find the lists of
those schools and they're fairly accurate. Do you know if
there's a medical school in the Dominican Republic or Brazil
or India, I don't know that's good. I have no idea,
but I know the American medical schools and we also
know the residencies in the United States that are the best.
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And so you want to look at plastic surgeons that
trained at really good medical schools and did their residencies
at good medical schools and hospitals. And then you want
to know that your doctor has privileges at a hospital
to do exactly the procedure that that doctor is.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Doing on you.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
That means a doctor could be doing let's say, Lippo
suction in his or her office with no privileges at
a hospital and in fact not even qualified to be
a plastic surgeon. I was just an expert in a
case I won't mention it where a doctor had a
death and they called themselves a Brazilian butt lift death
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and they called themselves a plastic surgeon. They were not
a plastic surgeon. They did a general surgery residency, weren't.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Even certified by the American Board of Surgery general surgery.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So you want to know that your doctor has privileges
in a hospital, because that means there's been some oversight.
Then what you want to do, and this is when
a lot of people don't realize.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Susan. You go to the state state of New.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
York, Department of Health in New Jersey, it's the state
Board of Medical Examiners. And you go to that website
and put your doctor's name in, and you know what
you find out there, Susan Oh, you find out very
interesting information. I was on the Board of Medical Examiners
for ten years in the state of New Jersey, and
you know, we reprimanded doctors, and we suspended doctors, and
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doctors then got their licenses back afterwards. Some even got
their licenses revoked, but they got them back. And the
states tend to be very lenient and they feel badly
for doctors and they allow them a period of retraining,
and that's not bad. But you want to know what
the history of your doctor is. Did they have suspensions,
did they have reprimands, did they have public orders against
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them telling them they couldn't do a certain thing. Those
are very important to know, as well as their malpractice history.
You want to find out if your doctor had one
malepractice student, they've been in practice for thirty years, Okay,
that happens. If they've had twenty might get your attention, right, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
But again I think you also need to see their work.
Talk to the doctor, do a consultation, look at their book,
see what their attitude is about the surgery that you want.
And if that matches your attitude and if their work
equals what you want.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So ask your friends, ask do a consultation with the doctor. Yep,
ask your family doctor, your internest, your general. Let's say
you had an appendectomy and you trust that surgeon, so
you know, give your office a call and say, you know,
do you have a plastic surgeon you refer to? And
you'll find that surgeons who refer to other surgeons. That's
a pretty high level refer.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I think Messer for You is an example of that
where it's a very reputable, strong medicine group and they
recommend you.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, and thank you. I have joined doctor Carolyn Messer
and I'm part of her group. So yeah, and she
is an entreprenologist who is world class. And did you
notice this week we had a she posted an instagram
You can go to a well by Messer and they
have a great Instagram page and I was on it
this week because I fixed a young child, a fifteen
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year old child's broken nose in the office. And it's
not a young child that's adolesent all right. Well for me,
it's a young child, child too, okay, all right, well,
a fifteen year old and he broke his nose playing
basketball and was pushed to the side, and I saw
him in the office and she filmed it as I
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pushed things back, and it's a nice instagram.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah, but you're not you're not actually expressing what it was.
Instead of rushing to the operator room with this boy,
you were able to readjust his nose and make it
wonderful by just manipulation.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Right, and it's off to you. Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So I know a lot of my friends might say, well,
let's see you in a couple of days and let's
go to the operating room and make a big production
out of it.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I try to do things in the simplest way possibly.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
For a fifteen year old who wants his life that yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, So for two or three minutes of discomfort, we
can push the bones back, and it's very fulfilling to
be able to do that.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
That's the kind of doctor some patients want. I would
want who goes after that service first, not immediately rushing
to the all the way to the other end of
the needle.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Well, look, hey, you're preaching to the choir here. So yeah,
schedule one or two consults, maybe three consults with a
plastic surgeon and speak to that surgeon. And if they
are brusque with you, if they are challenged by you,
if they if you're autistical, they add, if you ask
questions and they say, make a comment. I remember my
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mother went to an orthopedic surgeon. This was thirty something
years ago because she needed hip replacement and she she said,
you know, my son said I needed a prophylaxis against
blood clots.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And he said to her, who's going to be your doctor?
Me or your son? She said, my son. Okay, So
she went to a different orthopedic surgeon. But you know,
you want a surgeon that is not challenged and doesn't
and communicate secure. That's right, communicates with you, and isn't
so arrogant that they're you know, if you ask him
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a question, they are patient. Yeah, kind absolutely, And you
want to see, like you said, you want to see
photos of the patients of that doctor. If a plastic
surgeon cannot show you some very good pictures, now, obviously
they're going to call from their there.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, of course, but but they need to show you
because there are some plastic surgeons that cannot show you even.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Doing in a facelift exaggeration. Some believe in a natural look.
You have to make sure that you match with the doctor.
But that's only something you can do when you're in
the room with the consultation with your doctor, not having
a broker do it for you.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Absolutely, and you know it's also not the volume. Volume
is important to a certain extent. I just reviewed a
paper for a journal where there were two thousand cases
of lip augmentations, and you know, I review it to
reject or accept the paper, and this particular article, I
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looked at the photographs and each of them the lips
were enormous. They were those ducklips that I talk about.
I rejected the paper. But you know, my chief at
the University of Chicago, Tom Crizick, used to always say,
you know, it's a you could do be the busiest
surgeon in town and do cases wrong repeatedly and with
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bad results. So you know it's not necessarily that, all right,
You also want to check and make sure that that
plastic surgeon operates in accredited facilities. If it's a hospital
or a searcher center. If it's their office, it's got
to be accredited. Someone has to have oversight and the
antesthesiologists that they use. I'm big on board certified antithesiologists,
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particularly particularly hard word to say if you're out of
the hospital in the office. You know, if it's a
nurse anesthetist, I'm sorry. I believe in the highest amount
of education, the biggest resume, you know, with an antithesiologist
as opposed to a nurse anesthetist, I think that's very important.
We're going to take a short break now. I'm Board
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certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, sitting here in sag
Harbor with Susan Warner, my co host today and for
a long time before. Eight hundred three two one zero
seven ten will be back. After these words. They say
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that sixty is the new fifty. But while you may
feel and act fifty, the mirror doesn't lie. But that's
where plastic surgery comes in. I'm Board certified plastic surgeon,
doctor Arthur Perry, and I love helping patients look younger
and better. If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls, and that
dreaded turkey gobbler. It might be time for a little
nip and a tuck. You look more rested and yes,
(21:19):
younger with my short scar facelift and the artistic injection
of wrinkle filler or a laser peel, well, that might
be just what it takes to get you looking as
good as you feel. Let's sit down for an hour
consultation in my new Park Avenue office. Together, we'll come
up with a plan to help you look your best.
Give me a call at eight three three Perry MD.
That's a three three p e r R Y M D.
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Check me out on the web at Perryplasticsurgery dot com
and don't forget to listen to me doctor Arthur Perry
every Saturday evening at six pm. Right here on WOO.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
You're listening to What's your Wrinkle?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
With doctor Arthur Perry.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
What's your wrinkle? And we are back? And by the way,
did I mention? Susan Warner also is an author Never
Say Never, Never Say Always is still available on Amazon
dot com. It's a great book if you have lost
a relative, a friend, mother, spouse, child, and are experiencing grief.
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It is a book that can help you get through
that because Susan has experienced quite a bit and wrote
about her story. It's a great book. You can buy
it on Amazon dot com. And it's never Say Never,
Never Say Always. And I want to thank Susan Warner
for her insights. She always has these great, great comments
about things. I wish she'd come back as my permanent
(22:39):
co host. All right, Well, anyway, I don't think you
need a broker. I think you just need to do
a little bit of homework and you can choose a
good plastic surgeon also. All right, So our other topic
today were the low risk, no downtime procedures or minimal
downtime procedures. We've got a couple minutes to talk about.
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You know, some of these things that you can do
and you don't have to have two weeks to recover
from a facelift or or a rhinoplasty or eyelid lift.
What are the quick fixes to look better? Well, but
we've talked about some of these things on the show.
How about al Thearrah al Farrah high energy focused ultrasound
really good for kind of ironing out the creepiness of
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the neck and raising the brow and lifting the jow.
It's not for you if you've got you know, if
you're seventy five years old and you've got so much
extra skin, it's not gonna work for you.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
It just won't.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
But if you're fifty or fifty five, it really will
work for you. It's a great fix, and there's no
downtime for all thera, boatox and filler. We know about
those boatox. You can have it today and be back
to work in an hour. You can have filler today,
and with creative use of makeup, you can be back
to work in an hour. The laser for red spots.
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Red spots, that's one of the things that laser immediately
gets rid of.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So if you've those little capillaries on your face.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Or you know that the blush of e roseatia, you
can have a procedure and go back to work the
very same day. Now, how about things like seberria, kratosis,
you've got all those things growing on your skin, the
zoo well, you know, with band aids, yes, you can
go back. Or a creative use of masks or putting
(24:23):
your hair over wear ey've shaped. Those are some of
the things you can also do and go back to
work and you'll look significantly better right away. And if
you want them to heal, how long does it take? Three,
four or five days, depending on what you have. And
then a couple things with maybe a little bit longer recovery.
But if you have liposuction of the neck and jowls
(24:44):
with creative clothing, you can go back to work at
about two or three days. And even a chin and
plant also, those are ones with with very minimal downtime.
All right on board. Certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
host of What's Your Wrinkle here on wo R website
is Perry Plasticsurgery dot com. And we mentioned my phone
(25:05):
number before, but it's two poet two seven five three
eighteen twenty. And if you want to visit me at
doctor Carolyn Messer, well by Messer's office or any of
the other great entercronologists or internists or gynecologists or psychologists
in that practice over there on sixtieth Street between Park
and Lexington where I am. Now that phone number, what
(25:29):
is that number? Let's see we can get it at
six four six seven six zero thirty two fifty six.
That's six four six seven six zero thirty two fifty six,
and you can make an appointment and see me over
there well by messer or on my office at eighty
fifth and Park, or are still in Somerset, New Jersey.
I'm all over the place. And the number in New
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Jersey is seven three two four two two ninety six hundred.
And if you want the products that we talk about
on the show, the Daytime, the Nighttime, clean Time is
it's a great soap and soft time, it's Amazon dot Com.
Go to Amazon and you can pick up those products
with if you've got a prime membership, then you get
fast shipping and free shipping and the subscriptions, all those
(26:12):
great things that you can get through Amazon. All right, Noah,
thanks so much for great engineering. Next week, we will
be back. We've got a great show planned for you
next week already and I can't wait to get to that.
Have a great one and don't forget your sunscreen. Bye
bye now.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey, you know, and
he's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know the
public doesn't get a damn.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face, and he goes, yeah, look at
your face.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We're going to do with your fan what can you
do with his face? I go like that, I saw
what I got. I go look at this. I'm getting old.
I said, I want to maybe get fix it up
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here, Ark, and I
want to get a plauged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to
talk to.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Arthur Perry the best in plastic.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Surgery and workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivering content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
A smart as I really really gift his position. I
want to pay you the highest true I can give
to a surgeon, which is when people come to you,
they don't come for an operation, they come for an opinion.
And that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
I didn't realize we were gonna get the Michael Jordan
of Plastic Surgeons nine two and zero bows to this guide.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And welcome. This is Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
and you are listening to What's Your Wrinkle right here
on WR and broadcasting on the podcast. It's a straight
talk about cosmetic surgery. I'm a Board certified plastic surgeon.
This show is about you. It's about your wrinkles, It's
about your jows. It's about little breasts and big breasts
(01:37):
and fat around the hips and Tommy tucks and all
the things that plastic surgeons do. That's what I do
all day long. And I've been doing this show broadcasting
on WR for twenty years with Noah in the studio
and sometimes I have some co hosts. Last week we
had doctor Michael Royson come back onto the show, and this.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Week, who do I have? Who is this? Susan Warner?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It is Susan Warner has come out of retirement. I
got her out of the swimming pool to come back
on the show. She's got some pithy remarks she's going
to make.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well today.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I want to take your phone calls. The number is
eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. That's the
phone number at WAR And we're going to talk about
low risk procedures with no downtime or minimal downtimes. That's
what we'll talk about today. And we're also going to
talk about this is what got Susan's attention and got
her out of retirement. Do you need a cosmetic surgery
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broker to help find your surgeon?
Speaker 6 (02:39):
I have so much to say about it.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh she does, Okay, all right, we're going to get
into that in just a few minutes. We'll give callers
to the show a bottle of Daytime. Daytime is the
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(03:02):
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It's a vitamin, but vitamin B three. Niacinamide can help
(03:23):
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Niacinamide makes your skin barrier stronger. So that's what's in daytime.
That's what we're giving out today. Two callers to the show,
eight hundred and three to two, one zero seven ten.
(03:44):
That's the phone number at wor SO. Because Susan is here,
let's go ahead and start with that topic first. So
do you know what a plastic surgery broker is, Susan? Well,
I do, now you do, because there was a big
article and Yes's New York Times about this and that
got my attention. And well, it's a person that you
(04:07):
hire as a patient to steer you to a plastic
surgeon who will do your procedure. And it's supposed to
be a person that knows everything about plastic surgery and
will find you a great plastic surgeon. And you would
think that would be an independent plastic surgeon, right, Susan.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
I have so much to say about this. What's the criteria,
what's the compensation, what is the expertise?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, all good questions. So this particular person, and we're
not gonna mention her name. You can check her out
in the New York Times, But this particular person charges
seven hundred fifty dollars for a one hour consultation with her.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Is she a physician, Susan, No, she is. Is she
a dentist? Is she a nurse? Is she an esthetician? Okay,
so what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So that means she's just a person who is giving
her opinion, giving her opinion as to who you should
go to.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
And how does she call her stable of doctors?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Pray tell, that's a good question. That that's a very
good question. So I don't know personal personal compensation. How
do you decide who is the best doctor? Is that?
You know?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I know a lot of plastic surgeons. And I know
a lot of plastic surgeons at Cornell and Columbia and
all the medical schools that I have been associated with
who are incredible plastic surgeons who don't market. All good, Yeah,
but what about all those plastic surgeons that are really
big marketers and they're out there on Instagram, and and
do they pay this person to I've.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Seen work done by those people that market and those
people that use PR and I have to say it's
enormously disappointing with charlottean fees.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, Charlotte and Fiece and enormous. And so if you
take this person, you pay seven hundred and fifty dollars,
you sit down with her and she's or associates or yeah,
three hundred fifty dollars an hour for some junior associates,
and they will then apparently they don't examine you because
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they're not clinical people, so they call you clients not patients,
and they recommend, they will recommend what procedures and who
should do that procedure. And then I believe they've had
some relationships with the plastic surgeons, so it's not as
altruistic as you think.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
They haven't just.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Looked at the database and looked at the universe of
all the procedures out there, and who really is doing it?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You should ai, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So yeah, you know, so I've got all sorts of issues,
and a lot of plastic surgeons have a lot of issues.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Effical element of this seems extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, technically, technically you might say that this is not legal.
And the reason is you're not allowed to fee split
in plastic surgery and in medicine, so I can't. Let's
say I have a referring doctor, a good referra in
internal medicine doctor who sends me a patient, and can
I send them ten percent or twenty percent of the
(07:17):
fee thank you so much? Here you go, No, of
course you can't. That's illegal. Now lawyers can do that,
but that is illegal in medicine. You can lose your
license for that. So you know, is there a way
that they do this? Apparently there are some lawsuits with
this particular person that you can read the New York Times,
and they talk about different doctors that were they said, well,
(07:39):
they paid a certain amount of money to this person
and she didn't come through with these referrals. Well, it's
very questionable. At many levels. So Susan, hold your thoughts,
You've got a lot of them. We're going to take
a short break. I'm Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
sitting here in the Hamptons in sag Harbor, New York.
Beautiful location, look out the window with Susan Warner, who
(08:03):
was my co host for a few years and loved
working with me.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Why are you not? We'll get into that later.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Eight hundred and three two one zero seven ten is
the phone number here at WR Give me a call.
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(09:15):
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Speaker 4 (09:26):
And we are back.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'm word certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, most of
What's Your Wrinkle right here on WOR And I hope
you're having a great weekend and using your sun screen
today was a It was a UV index.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I was surprised it was only a seven. Seven.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, I thought it would be a little hotter, little
more intense. But anything over three and you do need
your sunscreen otherwise you know what happens to your skin.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
I have to tell you, I'm so impressed with the
younger generation how they are sunscreening their children.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yes, but they are still using spray sunscreen, which is
a no no.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Well I don't know about that, but I I'll say
long sleeve bathing suits and hats and faces out of
the sun, and they are just smarter than we were.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, definitely our generation, Susan. You know what people did.
They sat there, they intensified, having those mirrors on their face, right, reflectors,
they put baby oil on, so you know, I'm not
sure what that really was supposed to do. And they
certainly didn't use sunscreen. You and I both know some
people who still sit in the sun for hours and
hours and hours. I'll be seeing them for the basil
(10:30):
cell carcinomas that they are creating as we speak. All right, Well,
we were talking about these plastic surgery brokers. Those are
people that you pay to find the best plastic.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Surgeon to do your job. Would you do this, Susan,
Would you go to one?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
You know, I can tell you one step further. Not
only would I not go to one, but are you
going to do that for a heart surgeon? Are you
going to do the for an orthopedist? Are you going to
do that for every aspect of medicine? Go to a
list that's called by someone so that you can get
what you think is the best procedure for you without doing.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Your own homework, right and how do you know?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So, I mean, I suppose in a perfect world where
there was a reasonable fee and you could honestly get
an opinion like who is the best plastic surgeon for
this job?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Now? How does that person know who?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
And what is the best there are?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
You know?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And the other thing is there are some academic faculty
members that I know that are some incredible surgeons and
they don't even get on the best doctor lists because
they don't play the game. They don't do the Instagram,
and they don't schmooze, they don't go to the country clubs.
They just they just sit there in the opera opera
doing absolutely beautiful surgery. So yeah, absolutely amazing. So how
(11:46):
do you find the best plastic surgeon without going to
one of these ridiculous brokers to find you a plastic surgeon? Well,
it starts with looking at the educational background. And by
the way, I wrote a book about this, straight Talk
about cosmetic surgery. There's an entire chapter on choosing your
plastic surgeon. You don't need to go to a broker.
(12:07):
What you need to do is be able to look
and do a little homework on your own, not a lot.
You don't have to do a lot, though. It starts
with finding a plastic surgeon that's that is certified by
the American Board of Plastic Surgery. How do you do that?
Go to the website of the American Board of Plastic Surgery.
They list every Board certified plastic surgeon in the country.
Now there might be a good plastic surgeon that's not
(12:29):
Board certified, but you know, I know that it is
the single most important thing for someone in their residency.
We all aim for board certification, and if you're not
Board certified, there's something wrong. So Number one, you want
to find a doctor that's Board certified, certified by the
American Board of Plastic Surgery. Number two is check out
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the medical school that the doctor went to. You know,
we know the best medical schools in the United States.
You know Columbia and Cornet and Harvard and all these
great schools.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We know those.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know those, and you can find the lists of
those schools and they're fairly accurate. Do you know if
there's a medical school in the Dominican Republic or Brazil
or India, I don't know that's good. I have no idea,
but I know the American medical schools and we also
know the residencies in the United States that are the best.
(13:24):
And so you want to look at plastic surgeons that
trained at really good medical schools and did their residencies
at good medical schools and hospitals. And then you want
to know that your doctor has privileges at a hospital
to do exactly the procedure that that doctor is.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Doing on you.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
That means a doctor could be doing let's say, Lippo
suction in his or her office with no privileges at
a hospital and in fact not even qualified to be
a plastic surgeon. I was just an expert in a
case I won't mention it where a doctor had a
death and they called themselves a Brazilian butt lift death
(14:04):
and they called themselves a plastic surgeon. They were not
a plastic surgeon. They did a general surgery residency, weren't.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Even certified by the American Board of Surgery general surgery.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So you want to know that your doctor has privileges
in a hospital, because that means there's been some oversight.
Then what you want to do, and this is when
a lot of people don't realize.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Susan. You go to the state state of New.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
York, Department of Health in New Jersey, it's the state
Board of Medical Examiners. And you go to that website
and put your doctor's name in, and you know what
you find out there, Susan Oh, you find out very
interesting information. I was on the Board of Medical Examiners
for ten years in the state of New Jersey, and
you know, we reprimanded doctors, and we suspended doctors, and
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doctors then got their licenses back afterwards. Some even got
their licenses revoked, but they got them back. And the
states tend to be very lenient and they feel badly
for doctors and they allow them a period of retraining,
and that's not bad. But you want to know what
the history of your doctor is. Did they have suspensions,
did they have reprimands, did they have public orders against
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them telling them they couldn't do a certain thing. Those
are very important to know, as well as their malpractice history.
You want to find out if your doctor had one
malepractice student, they've been in practice for thirty years, Okay,
that happens. If they've had twenty might get your attention, right, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
But again I think you also need to see their work.
Talk to the doctor, do a consultation, look at their book,
see what their attitude is about the surgery that you want.
And if that matches your attitude and if their work
equals what you want.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So ask your friends, ask do a consultation with the doctor. Yep,
ask your family doctor, your internest, your general. Let's say
you had an appendectomy and you trust that surgeon, so
you know, give your office a call and say, you know,
do you have a plastic surgeon you refer to? And
you'll find that surgeons who refer to other surgeons. That's
a pretty high level refer.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I think Messer for You is an example of that
where it's a very reputable, strong medicine group and they
recommend you.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, and thank you. I have joined doctor Carolyn Messer
and I'm part of her group. So yeah, and she
is an entreprenologist who is world class. And did you
notice this week we had a she posted an instagram
You can go to a well by Messer and they
have a great Instagram page and I was on it
this week because I fixed a young child, a fifteen
(16:32):
year old child's broken nose in the office. And it's
not a young child that's adolesent all right. Well for me,
it's a young child, child too, okay, all right, well,
a fifteen year old and he broke his nose playing
basketball and was pushed to the side, and I saw
him in the office and she filmed it as I
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pushed things back, and it's a nice instagram.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah, but you're not you're not actually expressing what it was.
Instead of rushing to the operator room with this boy,
you were able to readjust his nose and make it
wonderful by just manipulation.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Right, and it's off to you. Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So I know a lot of my friends might say, well,
let's see you in a couple of days and let's
go to the operating room and make a big production
out of it.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I try to do things in the simplest way possibly.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
For a fifteen year old who wants his life that yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, So for two or three minutes of discomfort, we
can push the bones back, and it's very fulfilling to
be able to do that.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
That's the kind of doctor some patients want. I would
want who goes after that service first, not immediately rushing
to the all the way to the other end of
the needle.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Well, look, hey, you're preaching to the choir here. So yeah,
schedule one or two consults, maybe three consults with a
plastic surgeon and speak to that surgeon. And if they
are brusque with you, if they are challenged by you,
if they if you're autistical, they add, if you ask
questions and they say, make a comment. I remember my
(18:01):
mother went to an orthopedic surgeon. This was thirty something
years ago because she needed hip replacement and she she said,
you know, my son said I needed a prophylaxis against
blood clots.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And he said to her, who's going to be your doctor?
Me or your son? She said, my son. Okay, So
she went to a different orthopedic surgeon. But you know,
you want a surgeon that is not challenged and doesn't
and communicate secure. That's right, communicates with you, and isn't
so arrogant that they're you know, if you ask him
(18:37):
a question, they are patient. Yeah, kind absolutely, And you
want to see, like you said, you want to see
photos of the patients of that doctor. If a plastic
surgeon cannot show you some very good pictures, now, obviously
they're going to call from their there.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, of course, but but they need to show you
because there are some plastic surgeons that cannot show you even.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Doing in a facelift exaggeration. Some believe in a natural look.
You have to make sure that you match with the doctor.
But that's only something you can do when you're in
the room with the consultation with your doctor, not having
a broker do it for you.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Absolutely, and you know it's also not the volume. Volume
is important to a certain extent. I just reviewed a
paper for a journal where there were two thousand cases
of lip augmentations, and you know, I review it to
reject or accept the paper, and this particular article, I
(19:33):
looked at the photographs and each of them the lips
were enormous. They were those ducklips that I talk about.
I rejected the paper. But you know, my chief at
the University of Chicago, Tom Crizick, used to always say,
you know, it's a you could do be the busiest
surgeon in town and do cases wrong repeatedly and with
(19:54):
bad results. So you know it's not necessarily that, all right,
You also want to check and make sure that that
plastic surgeon operates in accredited facilities. If it's a hospital
or a searcher center. If it's their office, it's got
to be accredited. Someone has to have oversight and the
antesthesiologists that they use. I'm big on board certified antithesiologists,
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particularly particularly hard word to say if you're out of
the hospital in the office. You know, if it's a
nurse anesthetist, I'm sorry. I believe in the highest amount
of education, the biggest resume, you know, with an antithesiologist
as opposed to a nurse anesthetist, I think that's very important.
We're going to take a short break now. I'm Board
(20:35):
certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, sitting here in sag
Harbor with Susan Warner, my co host today and for
a long time before. Eight hundred three two one zero
seven ten will be back. After these words. They say
(20:56):
that sixty is the new fifty. But while you may
feel and act fifty, the mirror doesn't lie. But that's
where plastic surgery comes in. I'm Board certified plastic surgeon,
doctor Arthur Perry, and I love helping patients look younger
and better. If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls, and that
dreaded turkey gobbler. It might be time for a little
nip and a tuck. You look more rested and yes,
(21:19):
younger with my short scar facelift and the artistic injection
of wrinkle filler or a laser peel, well, that might
be just what it takes to get you looking as
good as you feel. Let's sit down for an hour
consultation in my new Park Avenue office. Together, we'll come
up with a plan to help you look your best.
Give me a call at eight three three Perry MD.
That's a three three p e r R Y M D.
(21:41):
Check me out on the web at Perryplasticsurgery dot com
and don't forget to listen to me doctor Arthur Perry
every Saturday evening at six pm. Right here on WOO.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
You're listening to What's your Wrinkle?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
With doctor Arthur Perry.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
What's your wrinkle? And we are back? And by the way,
did I mention? Susan Warner also is an author Never
Say Never, Never Say Always is still available on Amazon
dot com. It's a great book if you have lost
a relative, a friend, mother, spouse, child, and are experiencing grief.
(22:16):
It is a book that can help you get through
that because Susan has experienced quite a bit and wrote
about her story. It's a great book. You can buy
it on Amazon dot com. And it's never Say Never,
Never Say Always. And I want to thank Susan Warner
for her insights. She always has these great, great comments
about things. I wish she'd come back as my permanent
(22:39):
co host. All right, Well, anyway, I don't think you
need a broker. I think you just need to do
a little bit of homework and you can choose a
good plastic surgeon also. All right, So our other topic
today were the low risk, no downtime procedures or minimal
downtime procedures. We've got a couple minutes to talk about.
(23:02):
You know, some of these things that you can do
and you don't have to have two weeks to recover
from a facelift or or a rhinoplasty or eyelid lift.
What are the quick fixes to look better? Well, but
we've talked about some of these things on the show.
How about al Thearrah al Farrah high energy focused ultrasound
really good for kind of ironing out the creepiness of
(23:22):
the neck and raising the brow and lifting the jow.
It's not for you if you've got you know, if
you're seventy five years old and you've got so much
extra skin, it's not gonna work for you.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
It just won't.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
But if you're fifty or fifty five, it really will
work for you. It's a great fix, and there's no
downtime for all thera, boatox and filler. We know about
those boatox. You can have it today and be back
to work in an hour. You can have filler today,
and with creative use of makeup, you can be back
to work in an hour. The laser for red spots.
(23:54):
Red spots, that's one of the things that laser immediately
gets rid of.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So if you've those little capillaries on your face.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Or you know that the blush of e roseatia, you
can have a procedure and go back to work the
very same day. Now, how about things like seberria, kratosis,
you've got all those things growing on your skin, the
zoo well, you know, with band aids, yes, you can
go back. Or a creative use of masks or putting
(24:23):
your hair over wear ey've shaped. Those are some of
the things you can also do and go back to
work and you'll look significantly better right away. And if
you want them to heal, how long does it take? Three,
four or five days, depending on what you have. And
then a couple things with maybe a little bit longer recovery.
But if you have liposuction of the neck and jowls
(24:44):
with creative clothing, you can go back to work at
about two or three days. And even a chin and
plant also, those are ones with with very minimal downtime.
All right on board. Certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry,
host of What's Your Wrinkle here on wo R website
is Perry Plasticsurgery dot com. And we mentioned my phone
(25:05):
number before, but it's two poet two seven five three
eighteen twenty. And if you want to visit me at
doctor Carolyn Messer, well by Messer's office or any of
the other great entercronologists or internists or gynecologists or psychologists
in that practice over there on sixtieth Street between Park
and Lexington where I am. Now that phone number, what
(25:29):
is that number? Let's see we can get it at
six four six seven six zero thirty two fifty six.
That's six four six seven six zero thirty two fifty six,
and you can make an appointment and see me over
there well by messer or on my office at eighty
fifth and Park, or are still in Somerset, New Jersey.
I'm all over the place. And the number in New
(25:50):
Jersey is seven three two four two two ninety six hundred.
And if you want the products that we talk about
on the show, the Daytime, the Nighttime, clean Time is
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Go to Amazon and you can pick up those products
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fast shipping and free shipping and the subscriptions, all those
(26:12):
great things that you can get through Amazon. All right, Noah,
thanks so much for great engineering. Next week, we will
be back. We've got a great show planned for you
next week already and I can't wait to get to that.
Have a great one and don't forget your sunscreen. Bye
bye now.
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