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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questioned on this subject. So
he's the guy to ask. Doctor Arthur Perry, and the
public wants to.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Know the public doesn't get a damn.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face. He goes, yeah, look at your face.
We're going to do with your fan. What can you
do with his face? I go like that, I said,
what I got? I go look at this, I'm getting old.
I said, I want to maybe he can fix it
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here, Ark, and I
want to get a plauged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to
talk to.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Arthur Perry, the best in plastic.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Surgery and workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivering content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You're smart, as I really really gift us position. I
want to pay you the highest truth I can give
to a surgeon, which is when people come to you,
they don't come for an operation, they come for an opinion.
And that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeon nine two and zero bows to
this guide.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
And welcome.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
This is sports certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and
you are listening to What's Your Wrinkle right here on
WOAR and straight talk about cosmetic surgery in the podcast universe.
This is the show about you. This is the show
about your wrinkles. This is the show about jowels. It's
the show about splotchy pigmentation. It's a show about fat
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on the hips and large noses and ears that protrude.
This is the plastic surgery show here on WOOR. We've
been doing this for a long long time. Tonight, I'm
very happy to have a co host and it is
Meredith Perry, my daughter, Meredith. She she's co hosted every
now and then. Then, Yeah, you have I got around
(02:01):
of retirement. How are you this evening, Meredith?
Speaker 8 (02:04):
Hello, doctor Perry. It's really nice to be here. Longtime listener,
big time fan.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
And she's my daughter also, and she's also the CEO
of Elamine, which is a tech company. So we'll let
you talk about that in a few minutes. But not
quite yet, Meredith Perry. We've got so much to talk
about and just a half hour to do it. And
we're going to talk about basil cell carsonomas. Those are
types of skin cancers. We're going to talk about how
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I remove them and all the different techniques because there's
a lot of confusion around those, so we'll talk about that.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
And have you ever heard of arnica? Meredith?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I have not.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
What is arnold?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Well, we're going to learn about that on the show also,
and I'll tell you whether or not it may work
or maybe it doesn't work, maybe I don't know. We'll
talk about the things that you, as a potential patient,
should be planning now if you want to look as
good as possible for the fall, because it's summer. We're
broadcasting live from the Hamptons today from sag Harbor, New York,
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which is the one of the town's closest to London,
England and the States. Seems that way. It took so
long to get here this week, all right, but it's
been a kind of a nice weekend. It got sunny
a little earlier. And I hope you used I know
you went to the beach today, Meredith, did you use
your sunscreen?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I used Doctor Perry's Daytime.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
That's good. Be terrible if she used someone else, as
she is my daughter. But yes, so doctor Perry. In fact,
that is what we're giving away to callers tonight. Eight
hundred and three two one zero seven ten is the
phone number here at wo R. Doctor Perry's Daytime sounds good.
It is an SPF twenty three. You'll read twenty on
the label. We had a round down. You can't round up.
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Twenty three doesn't sound too good on the label. So
it's an SPF twenty zinc oxide containing sunscreen. But it's
so much more. It is really a skin protector. It's
got niacinamide in it. Niacinamide is vitamin B three, it's
vitamin B five. It's got all the things to keep
your skin as strong as possible. But actually it's kind
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of like a bookend. I designed my nighttime and my
daytime as bookends.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
Nighttime is A is a serum.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
That has vitamin C and vitamin A and fruit acids
and antioxidants and skin brighteners and all those things.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
It's truly incredible. It's a good it is zero Everyone
that I know that uses it tells me it's the
best skincare product that they've ever used. But I'm not kidding.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
But but all vitamin as, all vitamin as can cause
a little bit of skin irritation. And so the niacinami,
the vitamin B three, and the vitamin B five are
the very specific mitigators, like that word for the irritation
that vitamin A can cause. So if you use vitamin
A at night, whether it's mine or retina or anything like that,
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and if you use the daytime in the morning, it
will make it more tolerable. So eight hundred and three
to two one and zero seven ten, that's the phone number.
Give us a call, ask us the questions that have
been keeping you up at night. And I know there
are lots of them out there, all right, So I
did want to emphasize that I am now part of
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well By Messer. You know, well By Messer.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's a really.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Really good medical group in Manhattan. It's on sixtieth Street
between Lexington and Park Avenue, and there's a started by
doctor Caroline Messer. She is a board certified endocrinologist, and
there are four endocrinologists in the group. There are internists
and urologists and guynecologists and psychologists, dietitians, all sorts of
(05:40):
people that are here to help you look and feel better.
And I'm now they're plastic surgeon, So I'm there. You
can give well By Mester a call and get an
appointment with me for your botox, for your filler, for
your mule removal, or any of the surgical procedures that
I do. Her number is six four six seven six
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zero thirty two fifty six. That's six four six seven
six zero thirty two fifty six.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
All right, Meredith.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Before we get into the basil cell carcinomas story, tell
me a little bit about Elami, the company that you
are CEO of.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
So Ella Mind is wearable neurotech that helps people fall
asleep significantly faster and also fall back to sleep significantly
faster if woken up too early in the night. It
literally just uses sound that has played at very specific
moments in time relative to your brain to help drive
the brain from an awake state to a sleep state.
And I know that this is a show about beauty,
(06:36):
doctor Perry, you really do need your beauty sleep. If
you don't sleep well, you're gonna look like crap the
next day.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So rate it. Ella mind tech, let's be professional here.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Ma elmind tech dot com. That's E L E M
I N D T E c H dot com. That's
elamindtech dot com. Check out the headman. There's thirty day
money back guarantee. If you don't sleep well in the
first week or the first couple of weeks, return it.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
But you'll love it. Seventy six percent of people fall
asleep and roughly happy.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Seventy six percent. So that's good.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
So those of you who are addicted to drugs to
take you know, at night, ambient and things like that,
not so good for you in the long run. So
Meredith's company, which was started by some PhDs at MIT, Yeah,
it can help you go to sleep. And I know
I tried it. I went to sleep right away. My
former co host, who's over on the other side of
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the room, refuses to be on the air, Susan Warner.
She fell asleep in the car using the lemind device,
which is hard to tell you true.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yep, she was snoozing away.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Snoozing away.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
So when we come back from our break, we are
going to talk all about basil cell carcinoma is the
most common skin cancer that there is, and the way
that you can eradicate that problem. And you know, is
it a mose procedure, is it a frozen section? Half
are there drugs we can use? Well, we're going to
answer those questions when we come back for the break.
(08:02):
Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten noh. Let's
take our first break. Now, did you know that your
skincare may be hurting you more than helping you. I'm
Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry. The foundation for
looking good is clean, healthy skin. So I've created a
(08:26):
program that is so simple that everyone can stay on
it long enough to see real results. It starts with
an incredible skin cleaner called clean Time. It's actually good
for your skin Protect your skin with my Daytime SPF
twenty cream. In the evening, feed your skin with my
Powerhouse Nighttime Serum. Nighttime has Vitamin CNA, antioxidants and skin brighteners.
(08:49):
And if you like moisturizers, well I've created Soft Time
with seramides and Vitamin D. Throw away the bags of
useless products and try doctor Perry's Skincare. Join the thousands
of people whose skin is healthier. That's doctor Perry's Skincare
on Amazon dot com. And don't forget to listen to
my radio show right here on wo R. Every Saturday
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evening at six pm.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
You're listening to What's Your Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
What's Your Wrinkle?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
And we are back on board certified classic serch and
doctor Arthur Perry host.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
So What's your Wrinkle? Right here on wo R.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
My co host this evening is none other than my
daughter Meredith Perry, who you know I kind of rescued
you from from Los Angeles and brought you back to
New York. So I'm very happy about that. All right,
So have you ever heard of basil cell carcinoma's Meredith, I.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Sir, sure have. It's not the stuff that you put
on pizzas.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Uh, I'm you know, that's the kind of humor that
Mike Roysen used to do on this show. But all right, yeah,
so no, basil cell carsonos. It is the most common
skin cancer, the most common cancer, and you know most
for most people, it should not be a frightening diagnosis
like most cancer diagnoses, because they're kind of you know,
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they're nuisance cancers as opposed to problem cancer in most cases.
You know, there's four million people a year in the
United States. I get basil cell carson's four million. Four
million people.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
That is a lot. That is a lot, it really is.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
And eighty five percent of them occur on the face,
the head, or the neck the rest of course and
the rest of the body.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
What do they look like?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
You know, a lot of you who are listening probably
have them right now, and they're undiagnosed. A lot of
people think, oh, they're just a little bump on the skin.
But if you have a little bump, usually they're a
fleshy colored bump. As they age, they grow very slowly,
by the way, they only grow a couple millimeters a
year in the beginning. But once they get big, they
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kind of move along, and as they move along, they
tend to get a punched out interior, so there's sort
of a crater and are rim on the side of
of that circular basil cell carcinoma. They're usually flesh colored,
some of them can be kind of brownish colored. They
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often will bleed and people tell me, oh, I've had
this thing. It's fine, it's been there a couple of years. Yeah,
it's been there a couple of years and slowly growing.
You really want to take care of this and don't
do it yourself. You want to go to your dermatologist
or you're a family doctor, or your plastic surgeon. And
the first thing that I do when I see one
of these is biopsy it. So we want to establish
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the diagnosis. It's wrong to just go ahead and plant
a definitive treatment because there are a lot of things
that look like basil cell carcinomas. It could be a
non pigmented mole or a fibrous papule or something like that.
So we want to establish what it is. Once we
decide that it really is a basil cell carcinoma, then
we need to plan on removing it. And if you're
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like almost everybody with a basil cell carcinoma, you'll have
it removed surgically. Now, if you're not that healthy, let's
say your wheelchair bound, you've got heart disease, you have
you've got diabetes, you have all sorts of issues and
really can't tolerate even a minor surgical procedure. We could
use radiation therapy for this and that will control it,
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and it has a very high curate, but it really
does kind of a number on the skin. So if
you've got a life expectancy longer than ten years, you
probably don't want radiation therapy. So that means if you're
forty or fifty or sixty, probably don't want radiation therapy
for these things. But if you're ninety, you know, and
lots of problems, it's not a bad way to go.
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But for most of you, we excise these, We cut
them out. Excision is a word that plastic surgeons use.
Now it could be done by what's called the most technique.
Have you ever heard of that one, Meredith?
Speaker 8 (12:50):
I most my grandfather has had ten thousand, most.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Lots of them.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
And if you're very light skin, you tend to get
a lot of these basil cell carcinomas or squamous carcinoma.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
So so Moe's procedures.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Are done by dermatologists and Mo's that's that was the
name of the doctor. Mo's is not a you know,
a verb or an adjective. It's a guy, doctor Mo's
u And it was a technique that he developed, uh
to look under the microscope, immediately remove the basil cell
carcinoma and look under the microscope and see if the
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if the edges are involved, and if the edges are involved,
he would remove a little bit more. So Mo's is
a very good technique that's used by a lot of
dermatologists and and it's designed to remove as little as
possible of the skin cancer. Now, as a plastic surgeon,
sometimes I do send to Moe's doctors when when the
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the area that's involved is cosmetically extremely sensitive, like if
it's your eyelet, or if it's your nose, or if
it's your lip, then you know, I'll go ahead and
send to a most dermatologists. However, almost all other ones
I do myself, and we do something called frozen sections,
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and that's where we go to the operating room. So
I'll operate over at Manhattan Iron here or Robert wood Johnson,
and we'll numb things up. And that's after, of course
we've got the biaps in the you know, we know
it's a basis cell carcenoma. Will numb things up, and
I will excize what I think is involved with a
reasonable margin, and I go down to the underlying tissue,
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usually the fat, and then I send it to the
pathologists and the pathologist looks immediately at this what we
call the specimen. They'll look at it and tell me
if I have gotten all of it. They can tell
that because I've marked the borders, and I asked the
pathologists to check the borders of it, and if it's clean,
then we'll go ahead and close the wound. And that's
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where the plastic surgeon really comes in handy as opposed
to the dermatologist or a general surgeon, because a lot
of these are on your cheek or on your ear,
and they're very cosmetically sensitive. And I'm sure most listeners
have seen people with pretty terrible scars on their face,
you know, bad scars, ones that might deform, ones that
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might pull the eyelid down, ones that might lift the
corner of the nose, or just be a mark on
the cheek or a mark on the chin that you
don't want. Now a plastic surgeon, our whole focus is,
of course, we want to get rid of the skin cancer.
But our goal is to make this look as good
as possible. So I'll do some fancy footwork and sometimes
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we'll move tissue in locally, and sometimes.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
We do what's called a flap.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
That's one of those plastic surgery words, where we keep
the tissue attached to the surrounding tissue and kind of
move it. Sometimes in the shape of a diamond, sometimes
in the shape of a curve. There's lots of different ways.
This is what we learn in our residencies. Sometimes we'll
do a skin graft and we make a decision what
will look best and what is the best thing for
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you as a patient. So you know, if you're a
fifty year old woman as opposed to an eighty five
year old man, there can be a difference in what
we choose just based.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
On what we want to put you through. You know,
if you're a fifty year old woman, you want.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
As good a result as possible.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Certainly the eighty five year old man does also, but
there's a limit to what we're going to do, if
you know, and how long we want to keep you
in the operating room, and what we want to subject
you to if you're significantly older or have other diseases
other medical conditions. So the plastic surgeon does the fancy footwork. Now,
can the dermatologists do mos and then do that fancy footwork. Yes,
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But you know, I do have to tell you that
the six year training program of a plastic surgeon is
so specifically designed to make you look as good as.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Possible with the surgery we do.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And you know, dermatologists don't like to talk about this,
but they are. It's a medical specialty, and the most
dermatologists will do one to two extra years of residency,
but they're still not plastic surgeons.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
So you know, there's a little bit of a turf
battle there.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
But plastic surgeons do feel that we can do a
really superior job to all other specialties in terms of
reconstructing making you look as good as possible. So when
we come back from our break, I'll talk about, just
for a minute, about the other therapies that we can do.
The chemo therapy and maybe freezing therapy that you could
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have on your basil cell carcinoma if you don't want
to have surgery. And we're going to talk about Arnica,
and of course take your phone calls. Eight hundred three
to two one zero seven ten. That's the phone number
here at WOOR. Give me a call. I'm doctor Arthur
Perry sitting here in Sag Harbor, New York with Meredith Perry. No,
let's take our second break. We'll be back these words.
(18:04):
They say that sixty is the new fifty. But while
you may feel and act fifty, the mirror doesn't lie.
But that's where plastic surgery comes in. I'm board certified
plastic surgeon, Doctor Arthur Perry, and I love helping patients
look younger and better. If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls,
and that dreaded turkey gobbler, it might be time for
a little nip and a tuck. You look more rested
(18:26):
and yes, younger. With my short scar facelift and the
artistic injection of wrinkle filler or a laser peel, well,
that might be just what it takes to get you
looking as good as you feel. Let's sit down for
an hour consultation in my new Park Avenue office. Together,
we'll come up with a plan to help you look
your best. Give me a call at eight three three
Perry MD. That's a three three p E R R
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Y M D. Check me out on the web at
periplastic Surgery dot com. And don't forget to listen to
me doctor Arthur Perry, every Saturday evening at six pm
right here on woar listening to.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
What's your Wrinkle? With doctor Arthur Perry. What's your rink?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
And what is your wrinkle? That's your voice, Meredith. You've
been doing this for how many years?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I think I recorded that segment when I was in
high school.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I think, so a long long time ago. All right,
So I'm board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry host.
So what's your wrinkle? Right here on wo or we're
talking about basil cell carcinomas. Many of you either had them,
will have them, or you know, want them. No, I
don't think anyone wants them, Meredith. It's hard to control
these children, right But all right, so if you do
(19:37):
have a basil cell carcinoma, you can call my office
and I certainly take care of these things, and I
try and do the best job possible and give you
a scar that's hard to see. Is that always possible?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Of course not.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
It depends on how big the basil cell carcinoma is
and where it is on your face, if it's right
in the middle of your cheek. You know, a lot
of people think that plastic surgeons a don't create scars.
But our goal is to give you the best possible
scar for what you have. And that doesn't mean there
will be no scar, but we want it to be
as good as possible, and certainly that is achieved by
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virtually all plastic surgeons because it takes a long time
to become a plastic surgeon. Six year residency, after four
years of medical school, after four years of college.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yeah, that's a long long road.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
So if you don't want surgery, well, yeah, there are
some other things. There's something called Fudex cream. There's something
called al dark cream. They're really uh, you know, they're
for people who really can't tolerate surgery, and they do
have a reasonable cure rate somewhere in the about a
(20:45):
sixty seventy eighty percent cure rate something like that. There's cryotherapy.
It's got about an eighty five percent cure rate. Yeah,
X ray therapy about a ninety six percent cur rate.
Now when we do pros and sections or mode surgery,
it should be you know, somewhere of ninety seven ninety
eight percent curate ninety nine. It's a very very rare
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occasion that there is a recurrence. So there certainly are
different options, and you know, the first step is make
your appointment with me, make your appointment with your dermatologists,
get it diagnosed, and often I will work with the dermatologists.
So if you go to a dermatologist and you have
the MOS and they say, well, I'm gonna do MOS,
and that's really the only way to do it. You
can have me as the plastic surgeon reconstruct things. So
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I work with different dermatologists and you know, they might
do it on a Wednesday and send me a photograph,
so I know what I'm getting into on a Thursday morning,
bring you to the hospital and take care of it
as an outpatient and make you look as good as possible.
All right, on board certified plastics surgeon, Doctor Arthur Perry,
host of What's your wrinkle? By the way, it was
(21:51):
prime Prime is it? What do they call that on
AASA Prime Day this of course, you know Prime Day
this week and we actually had our first Prime Day special,
uh for my skincare company. We had twenty five percent
off the kits. So we have the basic kit which
has daytime, nighttime and a bar of Clean Time soap
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pretty d yeah, and the Clean Time the complete kit
adds the moisturizers. So we had twenty five percent off.
It was really nice special.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
So if you missed it because Prime Week Prime Day
is over, uh, for my listeners. Only for my listeners.
You got to be my listener. Yeah, how else would
you hear this? You can call on Tuesday to the office. Ellen,
that is my employee who loves to do this.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
She will be.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Taking orders Tuesday only. She'll honor the Prime Day special.
You have to give her a call and that's a
two one two seven five three eighteen twenty. That's two
one two seven five three eighteen twenty. You can call up.
You'll get twenty five percent off the kits.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
There is a.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Shipping charge, and you see Amazon doesn't have a shipping charge.
That's one of the great things about Amazon, but unfortunately
we do. But you'll still get the twenty five percent off.
And if you're looking for early Christmas presents, now's the
time to stock up. It's only July, but you know
Christmas is around the corner. You'll want to get these things.
So there you go. Two one, two, seven, five three,
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eighteen twenty. So arnica. You've heard of arnica, right, Meredith?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Uh no, actually no.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
No, Oh my goodness you I guess at the University
of Pennsylvania you didn't learn about medicinal herbs. Well, okay,
so arnica is one of those medicinal herbs. It's the
Arnica montana plant. It's it's been around for a long time,
and it's supposed to treat bruises and swelling and inflammation.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
You know there's active, active compounds in the flowers, the leaves,
the roots, and there's all sorts of things in arnica.
The real question is does it do anything.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
If you look on.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
The internet, and I know your generation loves Instagram and
TikTok and all these places where you get your medical advice,
you'll find that arnica is the thing to use after filler,
for instance, and after botox. Right, that's what they say,
because it's supposed to decrease bruising.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Do you think that's true, Meredith.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
You tell me, doctor Perry, Well, it's just the way
I asked that question, right, of course. As it turns out,
and I've been railing about this for years. I wrote
a piece for the Today Show, probably over ten years ago.
I looked at every single paper ever written about arnica,
looked at swelling, looked at inflammation, looked at the result afterwards.
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And you know what, there is so little science to arnica.
The only people I think that benefit from arnica use
are the companies that sell Arnica. Don't waste your money
on Arnica. It doesn't do anything. It's not going to
shorten bruising. It's not going to decrease inflammation. It just
doesn't do it. I tell it like it is. I
read the the literature. There was another paper in this
(25:10):
month's Journal of Dermologic Surgery, which I used to be
on the editorial board, that my my buddy, doctor Ron
moy was the editor of who passed away. Unfortunately. He
was on the show a couple of years ago. He
passed away last week, unfortunately, but it was his journal
for a long time. And uh, the article in the
(25:30):
July issue of Dermologic Surgery, looked at every paper ever
written about Arnica and no, doesn't appear to work. All right,
I'm board sort of by plastic surgeon doctor Arthur Berry.
You can check me out on the internet. Yeah, it's
Perry Plastic Surgery dot com. Meredith, what is your elemind?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And I am.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Meredith Perry, co founder and CEO of Elemind Technology.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
And where do you get mine? Again?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Elmind tech dot com.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Okay, check me out Perry Plastic Surgery dot com dot com.
And don't forget Amazon dot com is where you buy
the products, the skincare and thank you so much for
great engineering. Noah, it's been a pleasure. We'll see everybody
next week at six o'clock.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Bye bye.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questioned on this subject. So
he's the guy to ask. Doctor Arthur Perry, and the
public wants to.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Know the public doesn't get a damn.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face. He goes, yeah, look at your face.
We're going to do with your fan. What can you
do with his face? I go like that, I said,
what I got? I go look at this, I'm getting old.
I said, I want to maybe he can fix it
up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here, Ark, and I
want to get a plauged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to
talk to.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Arthur Perry, the best in plastic.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Surgery and workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivering content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a I mean.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You're smart, as I really really gift us position. I
want to pay you the highest truth I can give
to a surgeon, which is when people come to you,
they don't come for an operation, they come for an opinion.
And that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeon nine two and zero bows to
this guide.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
And welcome.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
This is sports certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and
you are listening to What's Your Wrinkle right here on
WOAR and straight talk about cosmetic surgery in the podcast universe.
This is the show about you. This is the show
about your wrinkles. This is the show about jowels. It's
the show about splotchy pigmentation. It's a show about fat
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on the hips and large noses and ears that protrude.
This is the plastic surgery show here on WOOR. We've
been doing this for a long long time. Tonight, I'm
very happy to have a co host and it is
Meredith Perry, my daughter, Meredith. She she's co hosted every
now and then. Then, Yeah, you have I got around
(02:01):
of retirement. How are you this evening, Meredith?
Speaker 8 (02:04):
Hello, doctor Perry. It's really nice to be here. Longtime listener,
big time fan.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
And she's my daughter also, and she's also the CEO
of Elamine, which is a tech company. So we'll let
you talk about that in a few minutes. But not
quite yet, Meredith Perry. We've got so much to talk
about and just a half hour to do it. And
we're going to talk about basil cell carsonomas. Those are
types of skin cancers. We're going to talk about how
(02:32):
I remove them and all the different techniques because there's
a lot of confusion around those, so we'll talk about that.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
And have you ever heard of arnica? Meredith?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I have not.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
What is arnold?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Well, we're going to learn about that on the show also,
and I'll tell you whether or not it may work
or maybe it doesn't work, maybe I don't know. We'll
talk about the things that you, as a potential patient,
should be planning now if you want to look as
good as possible for the fall, because it's summer. We're
broadcasting live from the Hamptons today from sag Harbor, New York,
(03:05):
which is the one of the town's closest to London,
England and the States. Seems that way. It took so
long to get here this week, all right, but it's
been a kind of a nice weekend. It got sunny
a little earlier. And I hope you used I know
you went to the beach today, Meredith, did you use
your sunscreen?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I used Doctor Perry's Daytime.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
That's good. Be terrible if she used someone else, as
she is my daughter. But yes, so doctor Perry. In fact,
that is what we're giving away to callers tonight. Eight
hundred and three two one zero seven ten is the
phone number here at wo R. Doctor Perry's Daytime sounds good.
It is an SPF twenty three. You'll read twenty on
the label. We had a round down. You can't round up.
(03:45):
Twenty three doesn't sound too good on the label. So
it's an SPF twenty zinc oxide containing sunscreen. But it's
so much more. It is really a skin protector. It's
got niacinamide in it. Niacinamide is vitamin B three, it's
vitamin B five. It's got all the things to keep
your skin as strong as possible. But actually it's kind
(04:05):
of like a bookend. I designed my nighttime and my
daytime as bookends.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
Nighttime is A is a serum.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
That has vitamin C and vitamin A and fruit acids
and antioxidants and skin brighteners and all those things.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
It's truly incredible. It's a good it is zero Everyone
that I know that uses it tells me it's the
best skincare product that they've ever used. But I'm not kidding.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
But but all vitamin as, all vitamin as can cause
a little bit of skin irritation. And so the niacinami,
the vitamin B three, and the vitamin B five are
the very specific mitigators, like that word for the irritation
that vitamin A can cause. So if you use vitamin
A at night, whether it's mine or retina or anything like that,
(04:52):
and if you use the daytime in the morning, it
will make it more tolerable. So eight hundred and three
to two one and zero seven ten, that's the phone number.
Give us a call, ask us the questions that have
been keeping you up at night. And I know there
are lots of them out there, all right, So I
did want to emphasize that I am now part of
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well By Messer. You know, well By Messer.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's a really.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Really good medical group in Manhattan. It's on sixtieth Street
between Lexington and Park Avenue, and there's a started by
doctor Caroline Messer. She is a board certified endocrinologist, and
there are four endocrinologists in the group. There are internists
and urologists and guynecologists and psychologists, dietitians, all sorts of
(05:40):
people that are here to help you look and feel better.
And I'm now they're plastic surgeon, So I'm there. You
can give well By Mester a call and get an
appointment with me for your botox, for your filler, for
your mule removal, or any of the surgical procedures that
I do. Her number is six four six seven six
(06:00):
zero thirty two fifty six. That's six four six seven
six zero thirty two fifty six.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
All right, Meredith.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Before we get into the basil cell carcinomas story, tell
me a little bit about Elami, the company that you
are CEO of.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
So Ella Mind is wearable neurotech that helps people fall
asleep significantly faster and also fall back to sleep significantly
faster if woken up too early in the night. It
literally just uses sound that has played at very specific
moments in time relative to your brain to help drive
the brain from an awake state to a sleep state.
And I know that this is a show about beauty,
(06:36):
doctor Perry, you really do need your beauty sleep. If
you don't sleep well, you're gonna look like crap the
next day.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So rate it. Ella mind tech, let's be professional here.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Ma elmind tech dot com. That's E L E M
I N D T E c H dot com. That's
elamindtech dot com. Check out the headman. There's thirty day
money back guarantee. If you don't sleep well in the
first week or the first couple of weeks, return it.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
But you'll love it. Seventy six percent of people fall
asleep and roughly happy.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Seventy six percent. So that's good.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
So those of you who are addicted to drugs to
take you know, at night, ambient and things like that,
not so good for you in the long run. So
Meredith's company, which was started by some PhDs at MIT, Yeah,
it can help you go to sleep. And I know
I tried it. I went to sleep right away. My
former co host, who's over on the other side of
(07:30):
the room, refuses to be on the air, Susan Warner.
She fell asleep in the car using the lemind device,
which is hard to tell you true.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yep, she was snoozing away.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Snoozing away.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
So when we come back from our break, we are
going to talk all about basil cell carcinoma is the
most common skin cancer that there is, and the way
that you can eradicate that problem. And you know, is
it a mose procedure, is it a frozen section? Half
are there drugs we can use? Well, we're going to
answer those questions when we come back for the break.
(08:02):
Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten noh. Let's
take our first break. Now, did you know that your
skincare may be hurting you more than helping you. I'm
Board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry. The foundation for
looking good is clean, healthy skin. So I've created a
(08:26):
program that is so simple that everyone can stay on
it long enough to see real results. It starts with
an incredible skin cleaner called clean Time. It's actually good
for your skin Protect your skin with my Daytime SPF
twenty cream. In the evening, feed your skin with my
Powerhouse Nighttime Serum. Nighttime has Vitamin CNA, antioxidants and skin brighteners.
(08:49):
And if you like moisturizers, well I've created Soft Time
with seramides and Vitamin D. Throw away the bags of
useless products and try doctor Perry's Skincare. Join the thousands
of people whose skin is healthier. That's doctor Perry's Skincare
on Amazon dot com. And don't forget to listen to
my radio show right here on wo R. Every Saturday
(09:10):
evening at six pm.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
You're listening to What's Your Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
What's Your Wrinkle?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
And we are back on board certified classic serch and
doctor Arthur Perry host.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
So What's your Wrinkle? Right here on wo R.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
My co host this evening is none other than my
daughter Meredith Perry, who you know I kind of rescued
you from from Los Angeles and brought you back to
New York. So I'm very happy about that. All right,
So have you ever heard of basil cell carcinoma's Meredith, I.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Sir, sure have. It's not the stuff that you put
on pizzas.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Uh, I'm you know, that's the kind of humor that
Mike Roysen used to do on this show. But all right, yeah,
so no, basil cell carsonos. It is the most common
skin cancer, the most common cancer, and you know most
for most people, it should not be a frightening diagnosis
like most cancer diagnoses, because they're kind of you know,
(10:06):
they're nuisance cancers as opposed to problem cancer in most cases.
You know, there's four million people a year in the
United States. I get basil cell carson's four million. Four
million people.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
That is a lot. That is a lot, it really is.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
And eighty five percent of them occur on the face,
the head, or the neck the rest of course and
the rest of the body.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
What do they look like?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
You know, a lot of you who are listening probably
have them right now, and they're undiagnosed. A lot of
people think, oh, they're just a little bump on the skin.
But if you have a little bump, usually they're a
fleshy colored bump. As they age, they grow very slowly,
by the way, they only grow a couple millimeters a
year in the beginning. But once they get big, they
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kind of move along, and as they move along, they
tend to get a punched out interior, so there's sort
of a crater and are rim on the side of
of that circular basil cell carcinoma. They're usually flesh colored,
some of them can be kind of brownish colored. They
(11:10):
often will bleed and people tell me, oh, I've had
this thing. It's fine, it's been there a couple of years. Yeah,
it's been there a couple of years and slowly growing.
You really want to take care of this and don't
do it yourself. You want to go to your dermatologist
or you're a family doctor, or your plastic surgeon. And
the first thing that I do when I see one
of these is biopsy it. So we want to establish
(11:33):
the diagnosis. It's wrong to just go ahead and plant
a definitive treatment because there are a lot of things
that look like basil cell carcinomas. It could be a
non pigmented mole or a fibrous papule or something like that.
So we want to establish what it is. Once we
decide that it really is a basil cell carcinoma, then
we need to plan on removing it. And if you're
(11:54):
like almost everybody with a basil cell carcinoma, you'll have
it removed surgically. Now, if you're not that healthy, let's
say your wheelchair bound, you've got heart disease, you have
you've got diabetes, you have all sorts of issues and
really can't tolerate even a minor surgical procedure. We could
use radiation therapy for this and that will control it,
(12:16):
and it has a very high curate, but it really
does kind of a number on the skin. So if
you've got a life expectancy longer than ten years, you
probably don't want radiation therapy. So that means if you're
forty or fifty or sixty, probably don't want radiation therapy
for these things. But if you're ninety, you know, and
lots of problems, it's not a bad way to go.
(12:38):
But for most of you, we excise these, We cut
them out. Excision is a word that plastic surgeons use.
Now it could be done by what's called the most technique.
Have you ever heard of that one, Meredith?
Speaker 8 (12:50):
I most my grandfather has had ten thousand, most.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Lots of them.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
And if you're very light skin, you tend to get
a lot of these basil cell carcinomas or squamous carcinoma.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
So so Moe's procedures.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Are done by dermatologists and Mo's that's that was the
name of the doctor. Mo's is not a you know,
a verb or an adjective. It's a guy, doctor Mo's
u And it was a technique that he developed, uh
to look under the microscope, immediately remove the basil cell
carcinoma and look under the microscope and see if the
(13:26):
if the edges are involved, and if the edges are involved,
he would remove a little bit more. So Mo's is
a very good technique that's used by a lot of
dermatologists and and it's designed to remove as little as
possible of the skin cancer. Now, as a plastic surgeon,
sometimes I do send to Moe's doctors when when the
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the area that's involved is cosmetically extremely sensitive, like if
it's your eyelet, or if it's your nose, or if
it's your lip, then you know, I'll go ahead and
send to a most dermatologists. However, almost all other ones
I do myself, and we do something called frozen sections,
(14:10):
and that's where we go to the operating room. So
I'll operate over at Manhattan Iron here or Robert wood Johnson,
and we'll numb things up. And that's after, of course
we've got the biaps in the you know, we know
it's a basis cell carcenoma. Will numb things up, and
I will excize what I think is involved with a
reasonable margin, and I go down to the underlying tissue,
(14:32):
usually the fat, and then I send it to the
pathologists and the pathologist looks immediately at this what we
call the specimen. They'll look at it and tell me
if I have gotten all of it. They can tell
that because I've marked the borders, and I asked the
pathologists to check the borders of it, and if it's clean,
then we'll go ahead and close the wound. And that's
(14:54):
where the plastic surgeon really comes in handy as opposed
to the dermatologist or a general surgeon, because a lot
of these are on your cheek or on your ear,
and they're very cosmetically sensitive. And I'm sure most listeners
have seen people with pretty terrible scars on their face,
you know, bad scars, ones that might deform, ones that
(15:17):
might pull the eyelid down, ones that might lift the
corner of the nose, or just be a mark on
the cheek or a mark on the chin that you
don't want. Now a plastic surgeon, our whole focus is,
of course, we want to get rid of the skin cancer.
But our goal is to make this look as good
as possible. So I'll do some fancy footwork and sometimes
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we'll move tissue in locally, and sometimes.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
We do what's called a flap.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
That's one of those plastic surgery words, where we keep
the tissue attached to the surrounding tissue and kind of
move it. Sometimes in the shape of a diamond, sometimes
in the shape of a curve. There's lots of different ways.
This is what we learn in our residencies. Sometimes we'll
do a skin graft and we make a decision what
will look best and what is the best thing for
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you as a patient. So you know, if you're a
fifty year old woman as opposed to an eighty five
year old man, there can be a difference in what
we choose just based.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
On what we want to put you through. You know,
if you're a fifty year old woman, you want.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
As good a result as possible.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Certainly the eighty five year old man does also, but
there's a limit to what we're going to do, if
you know, and how long we want to keep you
in the operating room, and what we want to subject
you to if you're significantly older or have other diseases
other medical conditions. So the plastic surgeon does the fancy footwork. Now,
can the dermatologists do mos and then do that fancy footwork. Yes,
(16:50):
But you know, I do have to tell you that
the six year training program of a plastic surgeon is
so specifically designed to make you look as good as.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Possible with the surgery we do.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And you know, dermatologists don't like to talk about this,
but they are. It's a medical specialty, and the most
dermatologists will do one to two extra years of residency,
but they're still not plastic surgeons.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
So you know, there's a little bit of a turf
battle there.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
But plastic surgeons do feel that we can do a
really superior job to all other specialties in terms of
reconstructing making you look as good as possible. So when
we come back from our break, I'll talk about, just
for a minute, about the other therapies that we can do.
The chemo therapy and maybe freezing therapy that you could
(17:39):
have on your basil cell carcinoma if you don't want
to have surgery. And we're going to talk about Arnica,
and of course take your phone calls. Eight hundred three
to two one zero seven ten. That's the phone number
here at WOOR. Give me a call. I'm doctor Arthur
Perry sitting here in Sag Harbor, New York with Meredith Perry. No,
let's take our second break. We'll be back these words.
(18:04):
They say that sixty is the new fifty. But while
you may feel and act fifty, the mirror doesn't lie.
But that's where plastic surgery comes in. I'm board certified
plastic surgeon, Doctor Arthur Perry, and I love helping patients
look younger and better. If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls,
and that dreaded turkey gobbler, it might be time for
a little nip and a tuck. You look more rested
(18:26):
and yes, younger. With my short scar facelift and the
artistic injection of wrinkle filler or a laser peel, well,
that might be just what it takes to get you
looking as good as you feel. Let's sit down for
an hour consultation in my new Park Avenue office. Together,
we'll come up with a plan to help you look
your best. Give me a call at eight three three
Perry MD. That's a three three p E R R
(18:48):
Y M D. Check me out on the web at
periplastic Surgery dot com. And don't forget to listen to
me doctor Arthur Perry, every Saturday evening at six pm
right here on woar listening to.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
What's your Wrinkle? With doctor Arthur Perry. What's your rink?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
And what is your wrinkle? That's your voice, Meredith. You've
been doing this for how many years?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I think I recorded that segment when I was in
high school.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I think, so a long long time ago. All right,
So I'm board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry host.
So what's your wrinkle? Right here on wo or we're
talking about basil cell carcinomas. Many of you either had them,
will have them, or you know, want them. No, I
don't think anyone wants them, Meredith. It's hard to control
these children, right But all right, so if you do
(19:37):
have a basil cell carcinoma, you can call my office
and I certainly take care of these things, and I
try and do the best job possible and give you
a scar that's hard to see. Is that always possible?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Of course not.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
It depends on how big the basil cell carcinoma is
and where it is on your face, if it's right
in the middle of your cheek. You know, a lot
of people think that plastic surgeons a don't create scars.
But our goal is to give you the best possible
scar for what you have. And that doesn't mean there
will be no scar, but we want it to be
as good as possible, and certainly that is achieved by
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virtually all plastic surgeons because it takes a long time
to become a plastic surgeon. Six year residency, after four
years of medical school, after four years of college.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yeah, that's a long long road.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
So if you don't want surgery, well, yeah, there are
some other things. There's something called Fudex cream. There's something
called al dark cream. They're really uh, you know, they're
for people who really can't tolerate surgery, and they do
have a reasonable cure rate somewhere in the about a
(20:45):
sixty seventy eighty percent cure rate something like that. There's cryotherapy.
It's got about an eighty five percent cure rate. Yeah,
X ray therapy about a ninety six percent cur rate.
Now when we do pros and sections or mode surgery,
it should be you know, somewhere of ninety seven ninety
eight percent curate ninety nine. It's a very very rare
(21:06):
occasion that there is a recurrence. So there certainly are
different options, and you know, the first step is make
your appointment with me, make your appointment with your dermatologists,
get it diagnosed, and often I will work with the dermatologists.
So if you go to a dermatologist and you have
the MOS and they say, well, I'm gonna do MOS,
and that's really the only way to do it. You
can have me as the plastic surgeon reconstruct things. So
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I work with different dermatologists and you know, they might
do it on a Wednesday and send me a photograph,
so I know what I'm getting into on a Thursday morning,
bring you to the hospital and take care of it
as an outpatient and make you look as good as possible.
All right, on board certified plastics surgeon, Doctor Arthur Perry,
host of What's your wrinkle? By the way, it was
(21:51):
prime Prime is it? What do they call that on
AASA Prime Day this of course, you know Prime Day
this week and we actually had our first Prime Day special,
uh for my skincare company. We had twenty five percent
off the kits. So we have the basic kit which
has daytime, nighttime and a bar of Clean Time soap
(22:11):
pretty d yeah, and the Clean Time the complete kit
adds the moisturizers. So we had twenty five percent off.
It was really nice special.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
So if you missed it because Prime Week Prime Day
is over, uh, for my listeners. Only for my listeners.
You got to be my listener. Yeah, how else would
you hear this? You can call on Tuesday to the office. Ellen,
that is my employee who loves to do this.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
She will be.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Taking orders Tuesday only. She'll honor the Prime Day special.
You have to give her a call and that's a
two one two seven five three eighteen twenty. That's two
one two seven five three eighteen twenty. You can call up.
You'll get twenty five percent off the kits.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
There is a.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Shipping charge, and you see Amazon doesn't have a shipping charge.
That's one of the great things about Amazon, but unfortunately
we do. But you'll still get the twenty five percent off.
And if you're looking for early Christmas presents, now's the
time to stock up. It's only July, but you know
Christmas is around the corner. You'll want to get these things.
So there you go. Two one, two, seven, five three,
(23:16):
eighteen twenty. So arnica. You've heard of arnica, right, Meredith?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Uh no, actually no.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
No, Oh my goodness you I guess at the University
of Pennsylvania you didn't learn about medicinal herbs. Well, okay,
so arnica is one of those medicinal herbs. It's the
Arnica montana plant. It's it's been around for a long time,
and it's supposed to treat bruises and swelling and inflammation.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
You know there's active, active compounds in the flowers, the leaves,
the roots, and there's all sorts of things in arnica.
The real question is does it do anything.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
If you look on.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
The internet, and I know your generation loves Instagram and
TikTok and all these places where you get your medical advice,
you'll find that arnica is the thing to use after filler,
for instance, and after botox. Right, that's what they say,
because it's supposed to decrease bruising.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Do you think that's true, Meredith.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
You tell me, doctor Perry, Well, it's just the way
I asked that question, right, of course. As it turns out,
and I've been railing about this for years. I wrote
a piece for the Today Show, probably over ten years ago.
I looked at every single paper ever written about arnica,
looked at swelling, looked at inflammation, looked at the result afterwards.
(24:44):
And you know what, there is so little science to arnica.
The only people I think that benefit from arnica use
are the companies that sell Arnica. Don't waste your money
on Arnica. It doesn't do anything. It's not going to
shorten bruising. It's not going to decrease inflammation. It just
doesn't do it. I tell it like it is. I
read the the literature. There was another paper in this
(25:10):
month's Journal of Dermologic Surgery, which I used to be
on the editorial board, that my my buddy, doctor Ron
moy was the editor of who passed away. Unfortunately. He
was on the show a couple of years ago. He
passed away last week, unfortunately, but it was his journal
for a long time. And uh, the article in the
(25:30):
July issue of Dermologic Surgery, looked at every paper ever
written about Arnica and no, doesn't appear to work. All right,
I'm board sort of by plastic surgeon doctor Arthur Berry.
You can check me out on the internet. Yeah, it's
Perry Plastic Surgery dot com. Meredith, what is your elemind?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
And I am.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Meredith Perry, co founder and CEO of Elemind Technology.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
And where do you get mine? Again?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Elmind tech dot com.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Okay, check me out Perry Plastic Surgery dot com dot com.
And don't forget Amazon dot com is where you buy
the products, the skincare and thank you so much for
great engineering. Noah, it's been a pleasure. We'll see everybody
next week at six o'clock.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Bye bye.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
The proceeding was a paid podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this
podcast constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or
the ideas expressed.
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