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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know that
public doesn't get a damn.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face. And he goes, yeah, look at
your face. We're going to do with your fan? What
can you do with his face? I go like that,
I said, what I got? I go and look at this.
I'm getting old. I said, I'm gonna maybe you can
fix it up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here Ark, and I
want to get a plauged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to
talk to.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Arthur Perry, the best in plastic.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Surgery, workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivering content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a I.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Mean, you're smart, as I really really gift his position.
I want to pay you the highest truth I can
give to a surgeon, which is when people come to you,
they don't come for an operation, they come for the opinion.
And that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeons nine O two and zero.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Bows to this.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Guy, and welcome. This is what's your wrinkle? Right here
on wo R. This is a board certified plastic surgeon,
doctor Arthur Perry, bringing you information about cosmetic surgery, America's
favorite topic. You thought it was baseball, right, Hey, Noah,
it's almost spring. I saw the crocuses come up. Those
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of you who are in New York. It's the beginning
of March. I think it's it's kind of spring now,
and it was very warm today. It's going to be
freezing tomorrow. But this is not the weather show on
wr This is the show about wrinkles and the show
about small breasts and droopy breasts and jowls and the
turkey gobbler, the dreaded turkey gobbler. That's what this show
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is all about. I'm a board certified plastic surgeon, host
of this show for a long long time on the internet.
You'll find it as straight talk about cosmetic surgery, and
you can subscribe to the podcast. Please do. We'll tell
you how to do that later in the show. But yeah, so,
welcome to March here in New York. Today we're going
to talk about you about your issues and cosmetic surgery.
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And I'm going to start kind of a new segment
here on WOR. It's a do this not that and
what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (02:28):
Well, you know, in.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Plastic surgery, you hear all these different things about procedures
and techniques, and then some are very very radical and
you hear about these things, and you hear about disasters,
and you hear I'm going to try and simplify it
for you. So there's lots and lots of different ways
to do things in plastic surgery. In my opinion, there
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are kind of overdone ways. Many of those there are
risky ways, and then there are more conservative ways. And interestingly,
when we get to the endpoint of simply looking better, Uh,
sometimes the simpler ways are better than the more complicated ways,
and certainly they often have a lower complication rate, and
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that's certainly what we want. So tonight we're going to
talk about the very first one about facial rejuvenation, the.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Way I do it, the way I'm advising you not.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
To do it. So this show is a call in show.
The phone number at WOR is eight hundred three to
two one zero seven ten. That's eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten, And we're going to be giving
away bottles of Yeah, we don't do this often. We're
gonna be giving away bottles of my Nighttime. And one
of the reasons I'm giving away Nighttime is because it's
got ten percent vitamin C in it, and that is
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one of the hallmarks of facial rejuvenation, one of the
most important things in looking better. And we'll talk about
that in just a few minutes. So give me a
call eight hundred three to one zero seven ten. That's
the phone number here at WOR. If you you were
just listening for the first time, if you're driving in
your car and you're wondering what's on AM radio these days. Well,
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I've been on this station for twenty years now, and
again it's a call and show. I'm a board certified
plastic surgeon. I trained at Harvard, Cornell and the University
of Chicago, and I teach at Columbia and at Rutgers,
and I've got offices in Manhattan right here on eighty
fifth Street and Park Avenue, and in Somerset, New Jersey.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
That's what I do.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
I do facelifts, and I lid lifts and lasers and
filler and boatox and all the things that plastic surgeons do,
breast augmentations, liposuction, and that's what we are here to
talk about this evening. So when we talk about different techniques,
you know, I always think, as a plastic surgeon, there's
so many different ways to do things. I finished my
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residency at the University of Chicago three decades ago, and
I have seen procedures come and procedures go. And when
I choose a new procedure, I want to achieve a
certain effect. The way I choose it is it's got
to be better than the procedure that's being done now,
or maybe it's just as good, but a much lower
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complication rate. Right, No one wants a complication because that
kind of that ruins your life. It ruins my life.
That's the last thing we want is to have an
infection or a bleed or lose skin or something like that.
But we're talking about working with live human beings, real tissue,
and these things happen. Complications can happen. It's not like
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working on a car where we just want to replace
your car door. We take a car door off, a
new one on and it's just as good as new.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
But not so with you.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
So we have to weigh all sorts of things when
we operate on you. When we do procedures to make
you look better, we want to look at the technique
that's used and what it takes to achieve a result.
So let's go ahead and take a phone call before
we start this. Patricia, wok to do for you? What
is your wrinkle?
Speaker 7 (06:01):
I have a question. I'll be seventy in the summer,
and what would the.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Best under I cream be for dark circles and wrinkles.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Well, that sounds almost like a setup because I was
just going to talk about that about ten minutes ago.
I read the latest paper on exactly that topic. So
under eye circles are very complicated. Actually, there's a lot
of different causes. So one of the causes of those
is shadowing from fat of your lower eyelids. So if
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you've got big fat pads of your lower eyelids, then
what we're talking about is either a blephroplasty, which is
a surgical procedure, or filling the groove underneath those fat
pads with hyaluronic acid. And there's a brand new one
out called Eyelight rest Lane Eyelight, which I like to
use on the lower eyelids. So that's for the groove,
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that's for the shadow. But if you're if you are shadowing,
if the dark circles are because of brown splotchy pigmentation
or brown pigmentation, then it's a whole different treatment. So
if you don't have those eyelet bags, if you don't
have a physical groove, and it's just in your skin,
then we want to lighten the skin. Is that your issue, Patricia,
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that there's dark circles not caused by shadow.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
That's a good question. I'd have to look at them. Yeah,
it's okay, let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That scenario okay.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
So if there's inherent pigment in your skin, then we
we we deal with this in a different way. And
the hallmark is topical vitamin C. So you asked me
about a cream or au and actually I'm going to
be sending you since your caller, I'm going to be
sending you Nighttime, which has ten percent ellis scorbick acid.
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That's a type of vitamin C that does work. It
penetrates the skin and it works. And the studies have
shown that ten percent vitamin C on your skin, particularly
the eyelids, the thinnest skin of the body, that will
thicken the skin. It does to several things. It thickens
the skin by stimulating the production of collagen. Collagen is
the structural over the skin and it's what declines as
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we get older. And also vitamin C has a different
effect on brown It decreases the production of melanin. Melanin
is the pigment that we normally make to defend ourselves
against ultraviolet light. But while it may have a function,
it also doesn't look real good, particularly in the splotchy
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pigmentation distribution or in the lower eyelids. So putting ten
percent topical vitamin C on your skin, and it's got
to have the real vitamin C l ascorbic acid. There
are many fake types, and really the FDA allows lots
of different types of vitamin C to be called vitamin C,
but there's all only one type that your body can
actually use. We're very very specific with vitamin C, unlike
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vitamin A, where we can use all sorts of different
types of vitamin A. With vitamin C, it's just elliscorbic
acid C. You need to see that on the label,
and the studies have shown it's got to be well
just to get the minimal effect.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
It's five percent.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
To get a good effect, it's ten percent elloscorbic acid.
It takes a number of months. You're not going to
see an effect overnight. You're not going to see an
effect in a week or even a month. I can
measure with certain machines, computerized photography machines, one called a
Visia machine. I can measure changes out about a month.
But the real test is what you see when you
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look in the mirror, right right, Patricia. It's not what
I tell you, it's what you see and how much
makeup you have to apply to your eyelids, and so
it takes three months to really see the benefit of
vitamin C. And you know that's a tough sell when
you're in the skincare business, which I you know, I'm
a plastic surgeon. I have a skincare company also, But
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that's the honest truth. And you know when you hear
these ads that you're gonna look different overnight, that's either bunk.
It's either lie or it's caused by swelling. So so
certainly ten percent eliscorbic acid.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
But I'm going to take a short break.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I want you to hang on the phone, and I'm
going to talk about another technique that we can also
use to decrease that brown, splotchy pigmentation of the skin.
All right, Patricia, hang on. I'm board certified plastic surgeon,
doctor Arthur Perry. This is what's your wrinkle right here
on wo R the phone number eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten. Will be back after these words.
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Did you know that your skincare may be hurting you
more than helping you. I'm board certified plastic surgeon, doctor
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(11:01):
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Every Saturday evening at six pm.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You are listening to What's Your Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
What's your Wrinkle? And what is your Wrinkle?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
On board certified plastic surgeon, Doctor Arthur Perry, Host What's
Your Wrinkle? Host of straight Talk about Cosmetic Surgery. Do
you do you podcast? Do you podcast? I know that
a lot of my audience is a little bit older
and are afraid Are you afraid of podcasts?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
No? No, no, no what our podcasts.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Podcasts are really just the radio, but it's radio as.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
You want it.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Instead of having you be glued to your radio at
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are you could be listening to this Tuesday morning at
seven in the morning or Wednesday night at midnight or anything.
If you subscribe to the podcast and the podcast is
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And all you have to do is put my name
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you get your podcasts.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It's everywhere.
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You put in my name doctor Arthur Perry, or you
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then when I post one of these programs, you can
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You're in the modern world of podcasting.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
All right.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
We're talking with Patricia. We're talking about dark circles under
the eyes, and we were talking about different techniques of
getting rid of those with There are surgical techniques if
you've got fat, there are filler techniques if there's a
groove under your eye, but if it's the pavement of
your skin, then we need to use. In my opinion,
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skincare and good skincare the most effective form of skincare
for the lower eyelid dark circles. Contains ten percent elliscorbic acid.
That's vitamin C. Like my Nighttime which we're giving away
to callers this evening nighttime, so you know, all right,
there's self interest here. But I created these products because
of the false products that are out there, the fraudulent
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products and products that you simply don't have enough vitamin
C or the wrong type of vitamin C or people
talk about vitamin C in the morning. If you put
it on in the morning gets destroyed by sunlight. You
have to put vitamin C on at night, So, Patricia,
vitamin C goes on at night before you go to sleep.
But be careful do not get vitamin C in your
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eyes because if you do, you'll remember the day it
will hurt your cornea. The vitamin C that I have,
it's ten percent the pH For those of you chemistry
gurus out there, is three point five and that's pretty acidic.
If you get it in your eye, you're going to
remember it. So do not do not keep it away
from your eyes. Just put it on very carefully. Let
it dry before you go to sleep. Because vitamin C,
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well that was the original invisible ink. It goes on
clear and it dries brownish. So you'll stain your pillow
if you put it on and then go to sleep
with it still wet. So put it on at night,
and that way it doesn't get destroyed by sunlight. Now,
there's another way.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
To do this.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Are you still with me, Patricia? Patricia's falling asleep out there.
But all right, Patricia, all right, you're there. You're falling.
You're making a shopping list. It's okay, you're on Amazon whatever,
all right, so you can buy my products, by the way,
on it on Okay, you can buy the products on Amazon,
since you're on it right now. All right, So but anyway, seriously,
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the other way to decrease the brown, splotchy pigmentation, the
brown pigmentation of the lower eyelid is the laser. The
fractionated carbon dioxide laser. It is a great way to
do it because it does two things. What it does,
the fractionated laser is different from the laser from fifteen
years ago, which was called in a blade of laser
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that just removed the upper layers of skin and you healed.
And yeah, that was very effective at getting rid of
pigment and lightening the skin, but it was pretty unacceptable.
It created a wound for a long time, almost two weeks.
The fractionated carbon dioxide laser is a very simple procedure
that we can use and we numb up your eyelids
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and we use that laser to drill tiny little holes
in the skin. Sounds barbaric, doesn't it, But it can
be done very readily. And when we do that, it
lightens the skin and it thickens the dermis, thickens the
collagen of the eyelid. And when everything heals, which is
about six, seven or eight days later, but you're a
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little bit red and then that's that redness goes away
in a couple of weeks and your skin looks better.
Your skin is less dark and thicker. It actually increases
the thickness of the dermis the collagen, so a skin
care program, a fractionated CO two laser. Those are the
things we use for a pigment. The other advantage of
the laser is that it thickens the skin. So one
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of the reasons we see dark circles under the eye
is because of the translucency of that very thin lower
eyelid skin. It's the thinnest skin of the body, and
so when we thicken that we see less of the
muscle and the blood vessels that we used to see
through the skin.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
So the CO two laser.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
You know, the the vitamin C will also do that,
but it takes a long time. See two laser does
it faster. So there's your answer, Patricia, I hope you
stayed awake through all that.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yes, I did, Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Okay, well, thanks so much for calling. And I'm Board
certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry. Now, Susie, hang on
to the line. We're gonna get to your phone call,
but we've got to take a very short break first.
I'm board certified Plastic Surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry eight hundred
three two one zero seven ten. We'll be back after
these words. They say that sixty is the new fifty.
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But while you may feel and act fifty, the mirror
doesn't lie. But that's where plastic surgery comes in. I'm
board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and I love
helping patients look younger and better. If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls,
and that dreaded turkey gobbler, it might be time for
a little nip and a tuck. You look more rested
and yes, younger with my short scar facelift and the
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artistic injection of wrinkle filler or a laser peel, well,
that might be just what it takes to you looking
as good as you feel. Let's sit down for an
hour consultation in my new Park Avenue office. Together we'll
come up with a plan to help you look your best.
Give me a call at eight three three Perry MD.
That's a three three p e R R Y M D.
Check me out on the web at Perry Plastic Surgery
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dot com, and don't forget to listen to me doctor
Arthur Perry. Every Saturday evening at six pm right here
on wo R you.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Are listening to What's your Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry.
What's your wrinkle, and we are back.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
This is BORD certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Berry, host
of What's Your Wrinkle? Right here on wor in New
York City. And what a beautiful city it is. You
if you are around today, you know we just saw
the first inkling of spring, the little plants starting to
come up, maybe a couple of blooms on some trees.
Believe it or not, it's been a long tough winter
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here in the Northeast. So I am so happy to
see you the spring, Susie.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
What can I do for you? What is your Wrinkle?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Okay, I have too, but I'll try to make it
one since it's only a half an hour show. In order,
I'm going to stay in the same theme as the
last caller. Are there any concealers in your opinion that
don't end up showing in those little cracks or wrinkles
below your eyes because they always say, oh, this one's different.
You're not going to see that. Is it possible?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Oh? Sure, sure.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
So you're talking about just cosmetics as opposed to cosmetic surgery.
So I do have my patients pretty much all of
the facial rejuvenation patients require concealers, because everything I do
temporarily causes either bruising or some redness. So if I'm
doing a filling procedure, which I do every single day
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in my office, using rest Lane and those different hyaluronic acids,
I inject around the mouth, and I do create bruising,
and you know that's one of the side effects of it.
There are some techniques that create less bruising, but they
are more likely to create lumps. So I use a
micro droplet technique when I do filler, and and that
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puts hundreds and even five six, seven hundred injections around
the mouth, and that creates a bit of bruising. So
we need to use a concealer. If I use the laser,
then that after healing with a laser or with a peel,
we're going to get some redness to the skin that
lasts about two or even three weeks. So you know,
I have no vested interest in the particular product that
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I do recommend to my patients, but I like Tart
Tarte products. They've got, oh I about thirty different colors
of concealer, and it goes on very nicely. It's designed
to cover bruising and redness and even tattoos. So that's
what I advise my patients, and I think it does
a good job.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
What I really meant was, is there like, would would
the nighttime work on those little tiny wrinkles to blow
your eyes? I know you're not supposed to get it
in your eyes, but that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
So nighttime nighttime does help those fine wrinkles. And in fact,
I've got documented independent studies that I did and they're
posted on the doctor Perries dot com website. We've got
some photographs of patients who use nighttime and yeah, it
actually does improve wrinkles. It doesn't do it overnight, but
it does do it over months. So yes, but you
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do have to be really careful, and I want to
stress that, you know, anything that really does work on
the eyelids can also irritate the eye, so you have
to be really careful that you don't get it in
your eye. But so's that's real skincare as opposed to cosmetics.
So the cosmetic I talked about, that's makeup. This is
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you know something, and it's what I have in nighttime
is ten percent alloscorbic acid. I've got vitamin A in
the least irritating form. There's different types of vitamin A.
I use the least irritating but the most difficult to
pronounce vitamin vitamin A. It's called retinial propion eight. And
so what happens in your body is we have enzymes
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in our skin that can convert every type of vitamin
A to the active type, which is retinoic acid, which
is what is in prescription retina. But that's the most
irritating form of vitamin A, and I like to put
the least irritating form on your body does the transformation
and puts that into effect as retinoic acid. We also
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have skin brighteners in my nighttime and antioxidants, so it's
kind of a My attitude about skin care is that
it's got to be really simple. And if you look
at different companies and I won't mention any you might
find like a six step morning program and an eight
step evening program, and who's really going to do that.
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I have celebrities that are my patients, and even they
won't do that, and their life and their income depends
on the appearance of their faces. And it's very difficult
to do multi step programs. So the way I design
my skincare is combining ingredients, not you know, fragmenting these skincare,
but defragmenting it meaning putting as many things in as
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possible that make a difference. And that's what made it
very difficult from a chemistry standpoint, because when we start
combining ingredients, we get interactions. And it was difficult. But
I have a patent on my nighttime it works very
very well. We're gonna be sending you some Susie so
you can try it out. And the way, by the
way I like to have you those of you are
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starting on nighttime, I want you to take it easy
in the beginning because it can because it's really potent.
It really does work. It's got all these active ingredients
in it, and because of that, you could get a reaction.
And that means let's start you out two days a
week in the beginning, like a Monday Thursday schedule. Put
it on a night, wash your face, put it on
before you go to sleep. Okay, do that for about
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two weeks, let your skin acclimate to it, and then
go to every other night, so you know, Monday, Wednesday,
Friday type and then Sunday, and go to every other
night for two weeks and when you hit the one
month mark, now you've acclimated your skin. Now you can
go to every night. Very important to use sunscreen if
you use the ingredients, because I've got alphy droxy acids
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in it, which sensitize your skin to sunburn, So you
have to be really careful. That's why the Morning program
has sunscreen in it. It's got zinc oxide sunscreen, and
it's got nias cinema that's called Daytime and they're kind
of like bookends.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
They work together.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
And the vitamin B three, the niacinamide, actually decreases the
irritation that all vitamin A products do cause. So that's
what you have, Susie. We're gonna send you some and
hopefully that will help you in your quest to look
better and to look more youthful. We've got sirens out
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here in the Upper West Side of Manhattan. You know,
I'm near all these It's a real show, Noah, you know.
And we've got firehouse and police and a lot of activity.
And I know you hear that because we are broadcasting
live from New York. But you know what the topic
I really wanted to talk about my take on facial
rejuvenation will just have to wait till next week. So
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tune in next week six o'clock right here on WR
and check out the podcast once again. Apple Podcasts and
iHeart Podcasts are the best place to get it. Check
me out on my website Perryplasticsurgery dot com. Order the
products that I talk about the nighttime. It's on Amazon
dot com. That's where we are now. I've got a
whole store on Amazon, So go ahead to Amazon. You
(25:37):
can get all their discounts, free shipping, all that they
have to offer. Noah, thanks so much for great engineering.
We'll see everybody next week right here, six o'clock on WR.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Have a good one, bye bye now.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well Doctor Arthur Perry, he's one of the top plastic surgeons.
He's got offices in Manhattan, New Jersey. You know what,
He's been doing the show here on w R for
years and years and years. Very popular show and a
great plastic surgeon. Everybody has questions on this subject, so
he's the guy to ask.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Doctor Arthur Perry, and the public wants to know that
public doesn't get a damn.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And I went to his office and I said, I said,
look at my face. And he goes, yeah, look at
your face. We're going to do with your fan? What
can you do with his face? I go like that,
I said, what I got? I go and look at this.
I'm getting old. I said, I'm gonna maybe you can
fix it up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Doctor Oz, are you there, I'm here Ark, and I
want to get a plauged you. Having worked with you
on a book and numerous other activity, you want to
talk to.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
Arthur Perry, the best in plastic.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Surgery, workable knowledge, but also your grace at delivering content,
which is why it's been a blessing to have you
on my show so many times.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
When I was a resident at the University of Chicago,
we had a I.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Mean, you're smart, as I really really gift his position.
I want to pay you the highest truth I can
give to a surgeon, which is when people come to you,
they don't come for an operation, they come for the opinion.
And that's why I trust you with my friends and relatives.
I didn't realize we were going to get the Michael
Jordan of Plastic Surgeons nine O two and zero.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Bows to this.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Guy, and welcome. This is what's your wrinkle? Right here
on wo R. This is a board certified plastic surgeon,
doctor Arthur Perry, bringing you information about cosmetic surgery, America's
favorite topic. You thought it was baseball, right, Hey, Noah,
it's almost spring. I saw the crocuses come up. Those
(01:35):
of you who are in New York. It's the beginning
of March. I think it's it's kind of spring now,
and it was very warm today. It's going to be
freezing tomorrow. But this is not the weather show on
wr This is the show about wrinkles and the show
about small breasts and droopy breasts and jowls and the
turkey gobbler, the dreaded turkey gobbler. That's what this show
(01:56):
is all about. I'm a board certified plastic surgeon, host
of this show for a long long time on the internet.
You'll find it as straight talk about cosmetic surgery, and
you can subscribe to the podcast. Please do. We'll tell
you how to do that later in the show. But yeah, so,
welcome to March here in New York. Today we're going
to talk about you about your issues and cosmetic surgery.
(02:20):
And I'm going to start kind of a new segment
here on WOR. It's a do this not that and
what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (02:28):
Well, you know, in.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Plastic surgery, you hear all these different things about procedures
and techniques, and then some are very very radical and
you hear about these things, and you hear about disasters,
and you hear I'm going to try and simplify it
for you. So there's lots and lots of different ways
to do things in plastic surgery. In my opinion, there
(02:51):
are kind of overdone ways. Many of those there are
risky ways, and then there are more conservative ways. And interestingly,
when we get to the endpoint of simply looking better, Uh,
sometimes the simpler ways are better than the more complicated ways,
and certainly they often have a lower complication rate, and
(03:13):
that's certainly what we want. So tonight we're going to
talk about the very first one about facial rejuvenation, the.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Way I do it, the way I'm advising you not.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
To do it. So this show is a call in show.
The phone number at WOR is eight hundred three to
two one zero seven ten. That's eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten, And we're going to be giving
away bottles of Yeah, we don't do this often. We're
gonna be giving away bottles of my Nighttime. And one
of the reasons I'm giving away Nighttime is because it's
got ten percent vitamin C in it, and that is
(03:45):
one of the hallmarks of facial rejuvenation, one of the
most important things in looking better. And we'll talk about
that in just a few minutes. So give me a
call eight hundred three to one zero seven ten. That's
the phone number here at WOR. If you you were
just listening for the first time, if you're driving in
your car and you're wondering what's on AM radio these days. Well,
(04:07):
I've been on this station for twenty years now, and
again it's a call and show. I'm a board certified
plastic surgeon. I trained at Harvard, Cornell and the University
of Chicago, and I teach at Columbia and at Rutgers,
and I've got offices in Manhattan right here on eighty
fifth Street and Park Avenue, and in Somerset, New Jersey.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
That's what I do.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
I do facelifts, and I lid lifts and lasers and
filler and boatox and all the things that plastic surgeons do,
breast augmentations, liposuction, and that's what we are here to
talk about this evening. So when we talk about different techniques,
you know, I always think, as a plastic surgeon, there's
so many different ways to do things. I finished my
(04:50):
residency at the University of Chicago three decades ago, and
I have seen procedures come and procedures go. And when
I choose a new procedure, I want to achieve a
certain effect. The way I choose it is it's got
to be better than the procedure that's being done now,
or maybe it's just as good, but a much lower
(05:11):
complication rate. Right, No one wants a complication because that
kind of that ruins your life. It ruins my life.
That's the last thing we want is to have an
infection or a bleed or lose skin or something like that.
But we're talking about working with live human beings, real tissue,
and these things happen. Complications can happen. It's not like
(05:31):
working on a car where we just want to replace
your car door. We take a car door off, a
new one on and it's just as good as new.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
But not so with you.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
So we have to weigh all sorts of things when
we operate on you. When we do procedures to make
you look better, we want to look at the technique
that's used and what it takes to achieve a result.
So let's go ahead and take a phone call before
we start this. Patricia, wok to do for you? What
is your wrinkle?
Speaker 7 (06:01):
I have a question. I'll be seventy in the summer,
and what would the.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Best under I cream be for dark circles and wrinkles.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Well, that sounds almost like a setup because I was
just going to talk about that about ten minutes ago.
I read the latest paper on exactly that topic. So
under eye circles are very complicated. Actually, there's a lot
of different causes. So one of the causes of those
is shadowing from fat of your lower eyelids. So if
(06:36):
you've got big fat pads of your lower eyelids, then
what we're talking about is either a blephroplasty, which is
a surgical procedure, or filling the groove underneath those fat
pads with hyaluronic acid. And there's a brand new one
out called Eyelight rest Lane Eyelight, which I like to
use on the lower eyelids. So that's for the groove,
(06:59):
that's for the shadow. But if you're if you are shadowing,
if the dark circles are because of brown splotchy pigmentation
or brown pigmentation, then it's a whole different treatment. So
if you don't have those eyelet bags, if you don't
have a physical groove, and it's just in your skin,
then we want to lighten the skin. Is that your issue, Patricia,
(07:22):
that there's dark circles not caused by shadow.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
That's a good question. I'd have to look at them. Yeah,
it's okay, let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
That scenario okay.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
So if there's inherent pigment in your skin, then we
we we deal with this in a different way. And
the hallmark is topical vitamin C. So you asked me
about a cream or au and actually I'm going to
be sending you since your caller, I'm going to be
sending you Nighttime, which has ten percent ellis scorbick acid.
(07:59):
That's a type of vitamin C that does work. It
penetrates the skin and it works. And the studies have
shown that ten percent vitamin C on your skin, particularly
the eyelids, the thinnest skin of the body, that will
thicken the skin. It does to several things. It thickens
the skin by stimulating the production of collagen. Collagen is
the structural over the skin and it's what declines as
(08:22):
we get older. And also vitamin C has a different
effect on brown It decreases the production of melanin. Melanin
is the pigment that we normally make to defend ourselves
against ultraviolet light. But while it may have a function,
it also doesn't look real good, particularly in the splotchy
(08:43):
pigmentation distribution or in the lower eyelids. So putting ten
percent topical vitamin C on your skin, and it's got
to have the real vitamin C l ascorbic acid. There
are many fake types, and really the FDA allows lots
of different types of vitamin C to be called vitamin C,
but there's all only one type that your body can
actually use. We're very very specific with vitamin C, unlike
(09:06):
vitamin A, where we can use all sorts of different
types of vitamin A. With vitamin C, it's just elliscorbic
acid C. You need to see that on the label,
and the studies have shown it's got to be well
just to get the minimal effect.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
It's five percent.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
To get a good effect, it's ten percent elloscorbic acid.
It takes a number of months. You're not going to
see an effect overnight. You're not going to see an
effect in a week or even a month. I can
measure with certain machines, computerized photography machines, one called a
Visia machine. I can measure changes out about a month.
But the real test is what you see when you
(09:42):
look in the mirror, right right, Patricia. It's not what
I tell you, it's what you see and how much
makeup you have to apply to your eyelids, and so
it takes three months to really see the benefit of
vitamin C. And you know that's a tough sell when
you're in the skincare business, which I you know, I'm
a plastic surgeon. I have a skincare company also, But
(10:03):
that's the honest truth. And you know when you hear
these ads that you're gonna look different overnight, that's either bunk.
It's either lie or it's caused by swelling. So so
certainly ten percent eliscorbic acid.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
But I'm going to take a short break.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I want you to hang on the phone, and I'm
going to talk about another technique that we can also
use to decrease that brown, splotchy pigmentation of the skin.
All right, Patricia, hang on. I'm board certified plastic surgeon,
doctor Arthur Perry. This is what's your wrinkle right here
on wo R the phone number eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten. Will be back after these words.
(10:40):
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Speaker 3 (11:37):
You are listening to What's Your Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
What's your Wrinkle? And what is your Wrinkle?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
On board certified plastic surgeon, Doctor Arthur Perry, Host What's
Your Wrinkle? Host of straight Talk about Cosmetic Surgery. Do
you do you podcast? Do you podcast? I know that
a lot of my audience is a little bit older
and are afraid Are you afraid of podcasts?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
No? No, no, no what our podcasts.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Podcasts are really just the radio, but it's radio as.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
You want it.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Instead of having you be glued to your radio at
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are you could be listening to this Tuesday morning at
seven in the morning or Wednesday night at midnight or anything.
If you subscribe to the podcast and the podcast is
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(12:26):
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driving a Tesla, you can get it in your Tesla.
And all you have to do is put my name
in to either Apple Podcasts or iHeart Podcasts or anywhere
you get your podcasts.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It's everywhere.
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You put in my name doctor Arthur Perry, or you
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then when I post one of these programs, you can
get a little notification and yes, you're in the podcast world.
You're in the modern world of podcasting.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
All right.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
We're talking with Patricia. We're talking about dark circles under
the eyes, and we were talking about different techniques of
getting rid of those with There are surgical techniques if
you've got fat, there are filler techniques if there's a
groove under your eye, but if it's the pavement of
your skin, then we need to use. In my opinion,
(13:25):
skincare and good skincare the most effective form of skincare
for the lower eyelid dark circles. Contains ten percent elliscorbic acid.
That's vitamin C. Like my Nighttime which we're giving away
to callers this evening nighttime, so you know, all right,
there's self interest here. But I created these products because
of the false products that are out there, the fraudulent
(13:49):
products and products that you simply don't have enough vitamin
C or the wrong type of vitamin C or people
talk about vitamin C in the morning. If you put
it on in the morning gets destroyed by sunlight. You
have to put vitamin C on at night, So, Patricia,
vitamin C goes on at night before you go to sleep.
But be careful do not get vitamin C in your
(14:10):
eyes because if you do, you'll remember the day it
will hurt your cornea. The vitamin C that I have,
it's ten percent the pH For those of you chemistry
gurus out there, is three point five and that's pretty acidic.
If you get it in your eye, you're going to
remember it. So do not do not keep it away
from your eyes. Just put it on very carefully. Let
it dry before you go to sleep. Because vitamin C,
(14:33):
well that was the original invisible ink. It goes on
clear and it dries brownish. So you'll stain your pillow
if you put it on and then go to sleep
with it still wet. So put it on at night,
and that way it doesn't get destroyed by sunlight. Now,
there's another way.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
To do this.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Are you still with me, Patricia? Patricia's falling asleep out there.
But all right, Patricia, all right, you're there. You're falling.
You're making a shopping list. It's okay, you're on Amazon whatever,
all right, so you can buy my products, by the way,
on it on Okay, you can buy the products on Amazon,
since you're on it right now. All right, So but anyway, seriously,
(15:12):
the other way to decrease the brown, splotchy pigmentation, the
brown pigmentation of the lower eyelid is the laser. The
fractionated carbon dioxide laser. It is a great way to
do it because it does two things. What it does,
the fractionated laser is different from the laser from fifteen
years ago, which was called in a blade of laser
(15:32):
that just removed the upper layers of skin and you healed.
And yeah, that was very effective at getting rid of
pigment and lightening the skin, but it was pretty unacceptable.
It created a wound for a long time, almost two weeks.
The fractionated carbon dioxide laser is a very simple procedure
that we can use and we numb up your eyelids
(15:53):
and we use that laser to drill tiny little holes
in the skin. Sounds barbaric, doesn't it, But it can
be done very readily. And when we do that, it
lightens the skin and it thickens the dermis, thickens the
collagen of the eyelid. And when everything heals, which is
about six, seven or eight days later, but you're a
(16:13):
little bit red and then that's that redness goes away
in a couple of weeks and your skin looks better.
Your skin is less dark and thicker. It actually increases
the thickness of the dermis the collagen, so a skin
care program, a fractionated CO two laser. Those are the
things we use for a pigment. The other advantage of
the laser is that it thickens the skin. So one
(16:36):
of the reasons we see dark circles under the eye
is because of the translucency of that very thin lower
eyelid skin. It's the thinnest skin of the body, and
so when we thicken that we see less of the
muscle and the blood vessels that we used to see
through the skin.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
So the CO two laser.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
You know, the the vitamin C will also do that,
but it takes a long time. See two laser does
it faster. So there's your answer, Patricia, I hope you
stayed awake through all that.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yes, I did, Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Okay, well, thanks so much for calling. And I'm Board
certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry. Now, Susie, hang on
to the line. We're gonna get to your phone call,
but we've got to take a very short break first.
I'm board certified Plastic Surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry eight hundred
three two one zero seven ten. We'll be back after
these words. They say that sixty is the new fifty.
(17:32):
But while you may feel and act fifty, the mirror
doesn't lie. But that's where plastic surgery comes in. I'm
board certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Perry, and I love
helping patients look younger and better. If you've got sagging cheeks, jowls,
and that dreaded turkey gobbler, it might be time for
a little nip and a tuck. You look more rested
and yes, younger with my short scar facelift and the
(17:55):
artistic injection of wrinkle filler or a laser peel, well,
that might be just what it takes to you looking
as good as you feel. Let's sit down for an
hour consultation in my new Park Avenue office. Together we'll
come up with a plan to help you look your best.
Give me a call at eight three three Perry MD.
That's a three three p e R R Y M D.
Check me out on the web at Perry Plastic Surgery
(18:17):
dot com, and don't forget to listen to me doctor
Arthur Perry. Every Saturday evening at six pm right here
on wo R you.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Are listening to What's your Wrinkle with Doctor Arthur Perry.
What's your wrinkle, and we are back.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
This is BORD certified plastic surgeon, doctor Arthur Berry, host
of What's Your Wrinkle? Right here on wor in New
York City. And what a beautiful city it is. You
if you are around today, you know we just saw
the first inkling of spring, the little plants starting to
come up, maybe a couple of blooms on some trees.
Believe it or not, it's been a long tough winter
(18:54):
here in the Northeast. So I am so happy to
see you the spring, Susie.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
What can I do for you? What is your Wrinkle?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Okay, I have too, but I'll try to make it
one since it's only a half an hour show. In order,
I'm going to stay in the same theme as the
last caller. Are there any concealers in your opinion that
don't end up showing in those little cracks or wrinkles
below your eyes because they always say, oh, this one's different.
You're not going to see that. Is it possible?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Oh? Sure, sure.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
So you're talking about just cosmetics as opposed to cosmetic surgery.
So I do have my patients pretty much all of
the facial rejuvenation patients require concealers, because everything I do
temporarily causes either bruising or some redness. So if I'm
doing a filling procedure, which I do every single day
(19:43):
in my office, using rest Lane and those different hyaluronic acids,
I inject around the mouth, and I do create bruising,
and you know that's one of the side effects of it.
There are some techniques that create less bruising, but they
are more likely to create lumps. So I use a
micro droplet technique when I do filler, and and that
(20:05):
puts hundreds and even five six, seven hundred injections around
the mouth, and that creates a bit of bruising. So
we need to use a concealer. If I use the laser,
then that after healing with a laser or with a peel,
we're going to get some redness to the skin that
lasts about two or even three weeks. So you know,
I have no vested interest in the particular product that
(20:28):
I do recommend to my patients, but I like Tart
Tarte products. They've got, oh I about thirty different colors
of concealer, and it goes on very nicely. It's designed
to cover bruising and redness and even tattoos. So that's
what I advise my patients, and I think it does
a good job.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
What I really meant was, is there like, would would
the nighttime work on those little tiny wrinkles to blow
your eyes? I know you're not supposed to get it
in your eyes, but that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
So nighttime nighttime does help those fine wrinkles. And in fact,
I've got documented independent studies that I did and they're
posted on the doctor Perries dot com website. We've got
some photographs of patients who use nighttime and yeah, it
actually does improve wrinkles. It doesn't do it overnight, but
it does do it over months. So yes, but you
(21:19):
do have to be really careful, and I want to
stress that, you know, anything that really does work on
the eyelids can also irritate the eye, so you have
to be really careful that you don't get it in
your eye. But so's that's real skincare as opposed to cosmetics.
So the cosmetic I talked about, that's makeup. This is
(21:40):
you know something, and it's what I have in nighttime
is ten percent alloscorbic acid. I've got vitamin A in
the least irritating form. There's different types of vitamin A.
I use the least irritating but the most difficult to
pronounce vitamin vitamin A. It's called retinial propion eight. And
so what happens in your body is we have enzymes
(22:02):
in our skin that can convert every type of vitamin
A to the active type, which is retinoic acid, which
is what is in prescription retina. But that's the most
irritating form of vitamin A, and I like to put
the least irritating form on your body does the transformation
and puts that into effect as retinoic acid. We also
(22:26):
have skin brighteners in my nighttime and antioxidants, so it's
kind of a My attitude about skin care is that
it's got to be really simple. And if you look
at different companies and I won't mention any you might
find like a six step morning program and an eight
step evening program, and who's really going to do that.
(22:47):
I have celebrities that are my patients, and even they
won't do that, and their life and their income depends
on the appearance of their faces. And it's very difficult
to do multi step programs. So the way I design
my skincare is combining ingredients, not you know, fragmenting these skincare,
but defragmenting it meaning putting as many things in as
(23:09):
possible that make a difference. And that's what made it
very difficult from a chemistry standpoint, because when we start
combining ingredients, we get interactions. And it was difficult. But
I have a patent on my nighttime it works very
very well. We're gonna be sending you some Susie so
you can try it out. And the way, by the
way I like to have you those of you are
(23:31):
starting on nighttime, I want you to take it easy
in the beginning because it can because it's really potent.
It really does work. It's got all these active ingredients
in it, and because of that, you could get a reaction.
And that means let's start you out two days a
week in the beginning, like a Monday Thursday schedule. Put
it on a night, wash your face, put it on
before you go to sleep. Okay, do that for about
(23:53):
two weeks, let your skin acclimate to it, and then
go to every other night, so you know, Monday, Wednesday,
Friday type and then Sunday, and go to every other
night for two weeks and when you hit the one
month mark, now you've acclimated your skin. Now you can
go to every night. Very important to use sunscreen if
you use the ingredients, because I've got alphy droxy acids
(24:15):
in it, which sensitize your skin to sunburn, So you
have to be really careful. That's why the Morning program
has sunscreen in it. It's got zinc oxide sunscreen, and
it's got nias cinema that's called Daytime and they're kind
of like bookends.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
They work together.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
And the vitamin B three, the niacinamide, actually decreases the
irritation that all vitamin A products do cause. So that's
what you have, Susie. We're gonna send you some and
hopefully that will help you in your quest to look
better and to look more youthful. We've got sirens out
(24:52):
here in the Upper West Side of Manhattan. You know,
I'm near all these It's a real show, Noah, you know.
And we've got firehouse and police and a lot of activity.
And I know you hear that because we are broadcasting
live from New York. But you know what the topic
I really wanted to talk about my take on facial
rejuvenation will just have to wait till next week. So
(25:14):
tune in next week six o'clock right here on WR
and check out the podcast once again. Apple Podcasts and
iHeart Podcasts are the best place to get it. Check
me out on my website Perryplasticsurgery dot com. Order the
products that I talk about the nighttime. It's on Amazon
dot com. That's where we are now. I've got a
whole store on Amazon, So go ahead to Amazon. You
(25:37):
can get all their discounts, free shipping, all that they
have to offer. Noah, thanks so much for great engineering.
We'll see everybody next week right here, six o'clock on WR.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Have a good one, bye bye now.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
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podcast constitutes neither an endorsement of the products offered or
the ideas expressed.
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