Entrepreneurs: The Insider's Guide to Finishing Early-Stage Innovation with Judith Sheft + Others

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
What is someone going to say? Are they going to
tell you your baby is ugly?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hey, we don't even know when our music's being used.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Where was there a need for young girls academically?

Speaker 5 (00:18):
I'm Richard Gearhart and I'm Elizabeth Gearhart. You've just heard
some snippets from our show. Do you want to know
more about starting your business?

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Stay tuned, ramping up your business?

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The time is near.

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You've given it hard, now get.

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It in gear.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's Passage to Profit with Richard and Elizabeth Gearhart.

Speaker 7 (00:38):
I'm Richard Gearhart, founder of Gearhart Law, a full service
intellectual property law firm specializing in patents, trademarks and copyrights.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
And I'm Elizabeth Gearhart, not an attorney, but I do
marketing for Gearhart Law. And I am the founder of
gear Media Studios, a full service podcast studio.

Speaker 7 (00:54):
Welcome to Passage to Profit, the Road to entrepreneurship, where
we talk with entrepreneurs and celebrities who tell their stories
about their business journey and also share helpful insights about
the successes that they've had. We have a very special guest,
the Lady of Entrepreneurship in New Jersey. Her name is
Judith Chef and she is the executive director of the

(01:16):
New Jersey Commission on Science, Innovation and Technology, where she
champions entrepreneurship and economic growth through innovation.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Too many awards to mention. And then then we have
Gora Sharma with Hookmusic dot com. This is super cool
if you love music and you love playing with software
and you're very creative. I'll let him explain it, but
it's really an awesome app. And then we have doctor
Tamika Quick with Leading Youngwomen dot Com. What she's doing
is just amazing work, helping young women really rise to

(01:48):
their potential. But we'll hear from her later and coming
up later on, it's Noah's Retrospective along with Secrets of
the Entrepreneurial Mind.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
But before we get to our distinguished guests, it's time
for or your New Business Journey. Two in five Americans
are business owners or thinking about starting a business, and
we like to ask our guests questions that might be
of interest to our audience. So today's question is, if
you could go back to your first day. What advice

(02:18):
would you give yourself about your career?

Speaker 6 (02:21):
Do you sure?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Thanks for that question, Richard, I would say the advice
I would give to myself is always say yes, be
open to new opportunities. Don't think you have to have
everything figured out at the beginning, because you are more
than likely going to pivot, twist, turn as your journey
moves forward.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Perfect.

Speaker 7 (02:42):
Yeah, I mean, careers last a long time and they
don't always go in one direction. Glaura, how would you
answer this question?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I think my advice to myself back then would be
the future isn't found in footsteps. Get comfortable paving your
own path. Get comfortable feeling uncomfortable. That's how you're going
to end up innovating at the end of the day
and finding your perfect job.

Speaker 8 (03:04):
Ye, doctor Quick, I think I would have to say.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
It's believing in your voice and the power of your voice,
being confident in your ability and your mindset of what
it is that you're striving to do, and keeping in
mind that you having the courage to persevere and pushing
forward can definitely have an influence on someone who is watching,

(03:28):
and you don't even know that they're watching.

Speaker 8 (03:30):
People are always.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Watching and you never know how your steps that you
are taking might actually inspire someone to believe in themselves
and move that fast into whatever it is that they're pursuing.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Very inspiring, I think.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Elizabeth, Well, looking back, I guess I would say, figure
out what you're really good at and find a way
to use it, and find a way to keep using
it even as everything around you changes, because if you
are really good at something, there's always going to be
a need for it. I love data analysis, and I've
always loved doing that, and there's always going to be

(04:04):
a need for that. Even with AI, you're still going
to have to interpret data.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, so and AA is not perfect, by the way.
We all know that, so.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
About seventy percent, So you still have.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
To think a little bit.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
For my answer, I guess I'll say that for me,
it was I would tell myself it's about the journey
and not the destination, right, It's about the experience that
you have growing as an individual and you know, hopefully
expanding your capabilities and your skill set. And for me,
that's really where all the satisfaction has come from. It's

(04:40):
nice to have a few good end points or exits.
Those are helpful, but it's really about the experience of
working in the world, seeing what you can accomplish and
you know what comes of your efforts, and so I
would say it's about the journey.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
I think that was very enlightening.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
And now it's time for our first guest, Judith Chef,
and she is the executive director of the New Jersey
Commission on Science, Innovation and Technology.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Welcome to the show, Judith. Again, Science Innovation and Technology.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
That covers a lot of ground, right, so maybe you
could tell us a little bit about what your role is.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So the Commission, which is sometimes known as cease IT
or CSIIT, depending on whether you try to say it
as a word you spell out all of the acronyms,
is really focused on early stage entrepreneurs who are developing
something and trying to take that invention and get it
out into the marketplace, because that's what innovation is. As

(05:35):
you know as a patent attorney, Richard, you can have
an idea, but if you can't get it out into
the marketplace, it's nothing. So we provide grants or non
deluted funding to early stage companies who are working in
life sciences, clean tech, advance manufacturing, general technology to help
them boost their developments forward. We're also looking at the

(05:56):
academic research at our New Jersey universe. We've got a
lot of academic research. We've got fabulous research universities, We've
got equipment tied up in those labs, and we've got
students in those labs. And we're looking to promote collaboration
between industry, both these startup companies that I've talked about
and large companies with our academic institutions. And so we

(06:20):
manage a website called Research with New Jersey that's a
free online resource that lets companies find faculty members, equipment, patents,
anything that can help them drive their businesses forward.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
That's really great.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
And so you take seed companies, which means people who
are starting out and don't really have any money. Is
there a criteria if one of our listeners wanted to
apply for money to get one of these grants.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, so we have some standard criteria from the Commission.
You need to have at least one person working thirty
five hours a week in the business, either paid or unpaid,
because again, when you're getting started, and I'm sure we're going.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
To hear from some of our unpaid a.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Lot unpaid half of the employees in the business have
to be working in New Jersey because we're giving out
state funds. You have to have less than five million
in prior year revenue, less than fifty employees because again,
if you've got more than fifty employees, there's a bunch
of other wonderful state programs and funding that you can get,

(07:28):
and then you need to be in good standing to
do business in New Jersey. We also try to link
people up with federal grants. There's programs known as SBIRSTTR
which is the federal grants for doing research and development.
We also work with the New Jersey Small Business Development
Centers to help companies get access to try to leverage

(07:49):
and pull federal money.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Judith, you get to see a lot of startups and
young businesses from the outside perspective.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
What are your thoughts about.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
What an entrepreneur should do to maximize their chances of success.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You need to have a bit of a plan, and
you need to be sure that customers want what you
are developing. You don't need a big, fifty page, huge
business plan, but you need to have done customer discovery
to ensure that the product or service that you're working
on is something that somebody really cares about, and there's

(08:24):
help in New Jersey to figure that out. The National
Science Foundation has a program called NSF National Science Foundation
iCore and Princeton is the hub of a Northeast Region
iCore Hub, and companies can go and work with the
hub to do customer discovery work to figure out is

(08:45):
the product or service that they're working on really addressing
somebody's pain points.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
That's amazing.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
I mean normally you just kind of ask your friends
and they all say, yeah, that's a great idea. But
if you're going to be serious about it, you do
probably want to get some outside input on the idea
before you make a big personal investment in it.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Right And ideally you don't want to show someone your
product and say, what do you think about this? Isn't
this beautiful? Because what is someone going to say? Are
they going to tell you your baby is ugly?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
No? Well, my friends maybe.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
To your to So I have a coach and she
was a little rough on me at one point she said,
I hope you don't want to like, no, that's what
I'm paying you for. I don't want somebody who's just
going to say, oh, you're fabulous all the time.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So you want to find out what people's problems are
and then figure out if what you've got addresses their
needs and if not, then how do you pivot it
and move it adjusted?

Speaker 7 (09:41):
So, if you're really new to the entrepreneurial world, maybe
you've got a regular job and you want to start
a project, could you go to this institute at Princeton
and get the feedback and you don't really have to
be you don't have to be experience.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
They take community teams to participate. You would google National
Science Foundation, I CORE Princeton Northeast Regional Hub. They've got
hubs all over the country. There's a couple in New
York City. I believe Cuney manages one of the hubs
in New York City.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
How do you spell icoor.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I dash Corps.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
That sounds like a great resource.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
I mean, we do work with a lot of inventors
and entrepreneurs at the firm, and they're all passionate about
their ideas, which really makes it fun to work with them.
It's not like doing wills and divorces where everybody's miserable, right,
But we get to work with people who are really
excited but you know, sometimes I'm kind of thinking, well,
I'm here to support you, but it would be nice

(10:39):
if you also got some input just to kind of
see how realistic this project is going to be. And
it's fine to not be realistic, right, but it's also
good to get some input and not just rely on
your own.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
And you'd rather find that out sooner rather than later
and figure out do I need to modify what I'm
working on to meet what the real needs are. And
so it might be you're developing something to help patients
who have a vision deficiency. You want to talk to patients,
you want to talk to eye doctors, you want to
understand what is the FDA approval process to figure out

(11:12):
is my solution really going to be helpful for what
they're working on. One of the companies that we worked
with is a company which had developed technology to help
children who were cross eyed. And this student team with
their faculty member, developed a game where you'd put on
an Oculus rift headset and kids would move their eyes

(11:34):
by moving their eyes, doing the eye exercises would move characters.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Through the game Wow you instead of.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Typical pencil pushing exercises. So imagine having your physicians say
to you go home and play this video game thirty minutes.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
So have you had some great success stories?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yes, we have. You know, I would say that company
Ocular Motor, which came out of NJIT, is an excellent
success story. There have been companies working in the clean
tech space. Princeton New Energy, which is working on battery
recycling technology, has gotten a lot of you know, they
took little money from the Commission. They were able to

(12:14):
leverage that with federal funding and they've set up not
only research and development in New Jersey that they've expanded,
but some recycling locations in Texas and North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
So we've talked about getting feedback on your idea. What
are some other angles to entrepreneurism that you can share
with us?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
So some of the things, you know, companies always talk
to us and they always say I want money, money, money,
But money isn't everything. You also need talent in your businesses.
So we're always trying to connect companies to programs that
might be through the Department of Labor in New Jersey,
the Office Secretary of Higher Education, the career Development centers

(12:55):
at the universities, community colleges, and so forth, to help
them get the talent that they need to drive their
businesses forward. And then lastly, there might be specialized equipment
that someone needs to access to work on their development project.
And a startup is not going to have the funds
to buy a big microscope or to set up a

(13:17):
clean room or have animal testing facilities to do some
of the early work. But we have a solution. We
have what we call an R and D voucher program
where companies can apply to us and we try to
match them up with a New Jersey university so they
can get access to those sets of capabilities to get
some of that early data to move their businesses forward,

(13:40):
and then they're in a stronger position to get angel funding,
venture funding, or government funding.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
That's really important. I know our son is a programmer
and he works, but he has a few things he's
looked at on the side, and to really get the
computing strength that you need is like twenty thousand a
month or fifty thousand or something, so he would have
to partner with something like that to get it right exactly.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
It's really interesting. It's fascinating how the entrepreneurial landscape has
evolved over the years because twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I never heard of Some of these things didn't exist twenty.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Years ago, and now there's like a lot of support
out there for people to take advantage of. And it's
part of the reason for having you here, so that
you can get that message out.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
And whether you're in New York.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
Or New Jersey, other states could have similar programs and
similar support systems, but I think New Jersey does it.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
You know extremely well.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Are people moving here for this, Yes, we've had come.
I was talking to one company that originally had been
the Gentleman lived in New Jersey, but his offices were
in Staten Island, and after talking to him, he goes, oh,
maybe I ought to move to New Jersey to take
advantage of your grint.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
It would be a step up from no.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Never mind, yes, don't discriminate.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
And certainly within New Jersey, there's an organization called Choose
New Jersey, which is a public private partnership that works
to do business attraction both from other states as well
as from outside the US, and our governor, Governor Murphy
does a lot of international travel to help drive collaborations.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
I do think that's one advantage of being somewhere like
New Jersey is if you have to ship your product
or get product from overseas, you're on the East Coast,
which is a really great place to be.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
So would you say that the current level of attention
toward entrepreneurship in New Jersey is stronger than it.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Used to be?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well? Absolutely, If you go back and look at Governor
Murphy's strategic plan for the state of New Jersey's becoming
the State of Innovation, the most inclusive entrepreneurial ecosystem is
one of the tenants of his plan.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
So absolutely, it sounds like.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
That he put his money where his mouth is, right,
So they're making these investments and their support entreprentnership. So
I think in New Jersey is a great place to
start a business just because of the population Dene City.
If I had tried to start a law practice in
another state where people are miles away from each other,
it would have been a much different experience than starting

(16:16):
it in a state that has a high concentration of people, right,
And so I think that New Jersey, and that's not
often brought up, but I do think that that's an advantage.
People who you can work with are close by, and
you can connect with more people more quickly compared to
some other regions. So I think New Jersey has a
lot to offer.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, So, Judith, where would you start? Let's say I
have an idea well for me my coaching business, and
I know there are programs for women too, which are
even better than just the general programs. So let's just
talk generally. Let's say I'm a twenty year old young
man who has an idea for a software app. Where
would I start?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
So one of the things I'm always telling people is
jump into the ecosystem. There are so many hech meetups
around the area. You know, New York, New Jersey they
have them, and Hoboken, Princeton, a lot of different areas.
Find one that's got people who are coming together around
the topic that you are interested in, so you can

(17:16):
start to meet people, talk to other people, find out
who have they used, what attorneys have they used? Did
they like your heart law as.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Check out our Google ring?

Speaker 8 (17:28):
You know?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Did they get support from the small Business Development Centers
or other support organizations in the state to get their
businesses started? Do they join a business incubator? Part of
the reason companies go to business incubators or co working
spaces is to be able to be around other people
so you can bounce ideas off of someone else who

(17:51):
might have had a similar kind of problem as opposed
to just being at your kitchen table by yourself trying
to solve it.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
That's great. So we have to take a commercial break.
We're having an amazing discussion with the Lady of Innovation,
Judith Chef, and we'll be back right after this commercial break.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
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Speaker 1 (20:15):
Back to Passage to profit, Once again Richard And elizabeth
gearhart and.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Our Special Guest judas cheff has been in the. INNOVATION
space i don't know since she was, born maybe and
she really gives so much value to any entrepreneur who talks,
to her and we're just so lucky to have her
here today talking, about funding which is so important to
a business and how to. Get, Started, so judith we
were talking about ways to get going with. Your business

(20:42):
things you? Do first, she said the first thing was
to network and go to events that are in. Your
area what's?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
NUMBER two i, MEAN again i would make sure that
you're figuring out what is the product and service that
you're going to bring forward and then develop that minimal
viable product and.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Test, it yeah.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
And that's the lean, startup, Model right so we're modifying
the product on the fly that works really great with
software and other technologies, as well so tell us a
story about one of the startups that you've seen. Become
successful maybe your. Favorite, STARTUP oh i don't.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
HAVE favorites i love. Them all soon of, Your children
i've going to. Say so Since, THE commission i Joined
the commission in, twenty twenty and from twenty twenty through
the end of twenty, twenty four we've given out four
hundred and forty five awards twenty seven point seven million
dollars to two hundred and. Fifty companies so some companies

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have been able to get multiple they participated in multiple
programs that. We have those companies have taken the little
funding that they've gotten From the commission and leveraged it
fifteen x in terms of follow on funding that they've
received from either, federal, grants equity and a tiny little bit.
Of loan most people don't go the loan route with what.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
They're Doing judith chef the executive director Of The New
jersey Commission, On science Innovation, and technology where she champions
entrepreneurship and economic growth. Through, innovation judith where can people?

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Find you we have a.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Website www njcsiit. Dot gov then go on to the
website they've got contact information for the staff From. The
commission we're happy to. Answer emails you can. Call us
i've had a few people even, text, us.

Speaker 7 (22:37):
Well thank you very much for joining us on, the
program your wealth of information. And inspiration so now it's
time for intellectual property news and speaking, of patents and
we talked a little BIT. About ai now it's time
to talk ABOUT. Global, ai elizabeth tell us what is?

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Going, On well richard found this article and there's some,
data here but it's from twenty. Twenty one but basically
the gist of It is china is really taking patents
seriously now and they're getting patents in the tech field
and it's SPECIFICALLY an, ai field And The united states
is behind them and the number of patent applications FILED.

(23:16):
For Ai and i'm sure some people will say that's
because our laws are too strict IN letting ai just
steal content from anybody who. Wants TO but i. Don't,
KNOW also i don't know what the quality Of the
chinese patents have. Been filed they haven't been. ALLOWED yet
a lot of them Are, inside china so, they're domestic
so they're not.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
Necessarily worldwide the study quoted three Hundred thousand chinese patent
applications in the FIELD of ai COMPARED to us about
sixty seven thousand patent APPLICATIONS.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
In ai and.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
So it's a really interesting question why there would be, this,
Disparity right and, you know you could LOOK at, i
mean you can only. Really speculate it could be government
funding of. Intellectual property these could be. Defensive patents they're
just trying To prevent american companies from establishing Foothold, in
china especially with their. COMPETING product i guess it's called, deep,

(24:11):
seek right That's the chinese.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Port, Or anywhere BECAUSE if i remember correctly for my
days as a, patent AGENT which i haven't done those
in a, long time if you are trying to file a,
patent application if an application has been filed anywhere else
in the world on the, same thing you can't get a, patent, anyway.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Right blox, it, Globally right so they.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Could be blocking three hundred thousand patents that maybe people
would want to file in the next six months.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Or SO but i do find it a little.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
BIT ironic, I mean china really does not have a
great reputation when it comes to intellectual, Property enforcement yet
here they have tons of patents AROUND their. Ai portfolio
it seems a, Little ironic but in, any case maybe
we should go to our panel and get some opinions on.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
This.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
QUESTION gore i think that while, you're right a lot
of these apps LOCATIONS of ai patents have been Filed,
IN china i think it's very different from the APPLICATIONS
of ai that have become kind of in vogue specifically
over the. Last Year and i'm pretty sure we're going to,
catch up.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
DOCTOR quick i come from the space of trying to,
gather people gathering entrepreneurs who are new to this journey
for them to be able to become familiar with it
and what does, it MEAN because i don't think that
there's enough knowledge or enough teaching that's being done, about
it especially in the.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
Entrepreneur, Space, JUDITH.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yes i want to mention, you know the State Of
new jersey has a big FOCUS on Ai In, new
jersey so kind of be on the lookout FOR how
ai is going to be deployed.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
Really broadly if you are interested in learning more, about
patents you can go to our website learn More about patents.
Dot com you can download a free, white paper and
you can also schedule a consultation with A gear heart
law attorney and we will be back with more passage
to profit right. After this remember. Stay tuned secrets Of

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Twenty two Passage to profit Continues with Richard And elizabeth gearhart.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
And our Special Guest.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Judith chef now it's Time For. Elizabeth spotlight so tell
us what you've been.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Up, to well we're just TALKING about AI and i have.
To say so we've opened our. PODCAST studio i have
a lot of, people interested but now it's a content
creation studio because video is. So important we have three
cameras and we can switch back, and forth and we
have different configurations so people can come in and, do
videos they can do. Just audio we have a big room.

(28:34):
That's empty they can do anything. They want and what
blew me away IS like i have five different people
come in and each one of them wants to use a,
space differently so we can TALK about ai all. We
want how are you ever gonna? Kill creativity the? HUMAN creativity,
i mean that's what the space is, all about is.
Human CREATIVITY and i just it blows my mind how

(28:56):
smart people are In creative.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
You mentioned the content creations do udo nomenclature as opposed
to the. PODCAST studio i thought that was. VERY creative, i, thought.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
No, all WAIT but i still but we did it for.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Podcasting initially then well it Was ACTUALLY richard's i did to, tell,
people well you might want to do social media clips.
Up there, so yeah so content creation is more and
that's where people. Are going people are listening to podcasts
on YouTube more than any other, platform NOW and I
think i figured out why because you can skip the
ads better. On YouTube.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
They're, still there but they're.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Still there but you can hit skip sooner than you
can on. A podcast but people aren't calling it listening to.
Podcasts anymore they're calling it where you find your content
now because YouTube is Doing to Apple what microsoft Died.
To Apple so apple was the first one, with podcasts
it was first one with the, video podcasts and now
YouTube is just coming in and. Taking over, Of course

(29:56):
YouTube Zoned, by google so. You, know anyway the studio
is OPEN and i do have a lot of. PEOPLE
interested i am really. ENJOYING it i do have, Somebody,
here angelica who's going to be helping me in. The
studio she loves technology and she came up and saw
it and she, was, like wow this would be a
fun place. To work so we're going to be working
together a little bit. This summer, BUT oh i also

(30:17):
Have The jersey, podcasts podcast which we have not done
Lately because danielle has been. Super BUSY but i really
want to do another Episode because RICHARD and i accidentally
brought home two little Kittens, on SUNDAY so i have
a lot to talk.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
About.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
That now we went to the shelter just to, look
Anyway and i'm still doing my meetup podcasting YouTube, creators
community so a lot going on. Around that that's enough.
ABOUT me i want to do THE medical ai. Minute
quickly during, the break we were talking about how some
people are AFRAID. OF ai i think a lot of

(30:51):
people are Worried about they hear the horror stories of
what it's going. To do it's going to take. Everybody's
jobs but From The World, ECONOMIC forum ai can interpret
brains ANSWER's, this article and what it does is is
somebody has. A stroke depending on how long it's been since,
their stroke, like, minutes hours there are different cures or

(31:11):
treatments that you, would use and the doctors have to
kind of look at the scan and figure. It out
but the results. Are IMPRESSIVE the ai is way. More
accurate the software was able to identify the times within
which the, stroke happened crucial information. For professionals so there's
a crucial time if it's less than four point, five
hours or if it's up to, six hours or if it's,

(31:34):
after that it could estimate the biological age allsions helping
to determine whether the stroke may. Be reversible that's really hard.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
For IT doesn't ai have, like, hallucinatations? WELL hacinating, i
mean if they're hallucinating these things in, YOUR brain i
mean my brain. Has HALLUCINATIONS maybe i need to, be.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Funny right what this?

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Is, about.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Yeah so let's TALK about ai hallucinating for just. A
MINUTE so ai tries to predict what the next word
is going to be and what. You're typing and this
is what, my son who's, a, programmer says and that's
where THESE and i see that you are nodding or
that's where these hallucinations. Come from but we have a tech,
guy here so we can talk to him. About it,

(32:19):
all right, come, on okay but enough of. This Please
so i'm really excited to HEAR. From gorev sharma about
hook MUSIC because i love playing with SOFTWARE and i
did want to say podcasts would not be where they
are TO. Without Ai but i'm assuming YOU'RE using ai
in your, software too so please tell us all.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
About it so we're a, mobile app We're. Called hook
WE'RE using ai to make music expression really easy. For
anyone so in the Same way instagram made becoming a
photographer something everyone, could Do or TikTok for short, form
video we're bringing that same thing. FOR music i think
music is one of the mediums of EXPRESSION that i

(33:00):
think everybody understands and, reacts to but for, some reason
we're not confident expressing ourselves. With it and then you
Go to instagram and TikTok and everyone's posts, involved MUSIC
and I think i read a stat last year where
half of the music on these social platforms, were MODIFIED
and ai is driving that. Even more and So what

(33:24):
hook is is a platform that is for anyone that
wants to express themselves on, social media and they can
create music. Really easily they can remix their, favorite songs
they can make their favorite artists expression part of their
own as they post it to their TikTok. And instagram
and we work with all the Artists right soldiers to

(33:45):
make sure what their fans do is write, by them it's,
fully controlled. It's ethical we have been vetted by like
every artist And right soldier that we've integrated with to
make sure we're ethical USAGE, of ai and we help
the artists then claim revenue on all of the derivative

(34:06):
versions of their songs that their fans end up creating and.
Sharing externally.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
That's amazing is your goal to? Sell?

Speaker 3 (34:13):
THIS no I think i. Love music my last company
was also another music, tech COMPANY and i just think
our relationship with music as people is, constantly evolving, and
unfortunately whenever these, evolutions happen feel like the artists and
the right soldiers end up getting the brunt of. The

(34:33):
stick and, For us i'm just really fascinated by how
do we move in the direction people want to engage
with music in a way where artists. Can BENEFIT, and
ai as, you mentioned is. A tool we have APPLICATIONS
of ai to make music, expression easier but it's really about.
Music expression so.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
Quick question so if you play the wrong music on your,
YouTube video they can mark. You down how does your
licensing system get.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Around that we don't get. Around it we lean. Into
it we basically built a platform that allows the artists
to choose exactly how they want their fans to engage with.
Their music everything is for, social media so it's all
thirty second sixty. Second clips you can't change a, whole
song and then if a user were to share that
music onto a YouTube. Or anything our license is such

(35:24):
that it's our responsibility to make sure that everything Made
on hook. Is legal it's what the.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
Artist Wants and hook a platform a social media social.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Media, App okay.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
So it's not just taking, music files combining them and
returning them to the user for them to use it
in the way that they. Want, to nope they would display, the.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Music Etc if instagram was, for music? Got it how
do we make money similar To an instagram or A
TikTok as, we grow we have ads subscriptions to get rid,
of ads and we share more than half of our
revenues to a pool for the. Right soldier, so artists
based on how much their fans are consuming, or creating

(36:07):
get their share of.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
That REVENUE so i took a little bit of. THIS
person i took a. Little bit this is. A person
i made my. OWN mash i wanted to use a
video editing SOFTWARE like i use cap cut, or DESCRIBE
and i wanted to put that mash on top of,
My video LIKE can i take it off your platform
and do that?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
With it you can take the Video into hook and Then,
from hook you can share it into Your TikTok instagram all, Of, That.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
OKAY so i would instead of doing it, IN capcut
i would do It.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
In hook you could still do your video editing in,
cap cut but you can ultimately bring that Video into
hook and then share it to wherever.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
You want so you want to make cook Like.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Another, instagram, yeah today you could almost think of us
as cap cut for music and you're never going to
get content taken down and it's right by. The artists
like we worked with this one Artist named blondish who,
you know was going on Tour in brazil and before she,
got there we tried to nudge fans Into Creating latin

(37:02):
american remixes of her new Single, self love and the idea,
there was let's generate hype organically where the fans can,
BE like i really love this mash up With The
latin american artist That maybe blondish hadn't even known or,
heard of and it brings the. Fans closer they get
to feel like they're part of that. Creative expression and

(37:25):
her listenership grew like quite Significantly In latin america because,
Of it so it helps expand the fans into, different
genres artists into, different genres and.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
So forth so how many artists are you currently?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Working with then we have licensing with virtually, every label
but we're, opt in so it's up to the artists
to be able, to, SAY hey i want to lean.
Into THIS and i mean we Launched, in January so
i'm not going to throw out any, numbers YET but
i would say we have a very large library, of
artists some of the biggest artists in.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
The world how are you getting? To THEM because i
would think they would want this because it's somebody here
is fifteen seconds of a. Great song they're going to
want to go hear the rest.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Of, IT yeah I mean i have been talking to
Friends that i've made over the years at, record labels
at marketing teams and understanding what their problems, were, that
hey we don't even know when our music's being used on,
these platforms and even if, we do sometimes we can't
approve that because the artist doesn't, want. That right so
it was really listening to what the needs of the

(38:26):
artists were and the, stakeholders were and then building it
and then going back to them, and, saying hey we
built the solution, for you and it starts with just
earning the love of the artists and then from there
the fans and consumers. Will come that's. Our thought.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
That's GREAT if i were to want to, use hook
how MUCH would i pay for a?

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Mash there.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
It's free, it's free but if you wanted to have more,
premium features that could. Be paid but right now we
don't even charge, For it like it's. Completely free you
can go on it and Be Like teddy swam's really.
COOL song i want to make my creative version of
it and mash it up With An indian bollywood singer
and make a.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Funny Video so i've got some great. Cat videos you should.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
Do it you should.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Do it do how.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Many people are working on your team at the moment
we have.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Fifteen people. NOW great I wish i knew about grants
and everything you were talking about the. WHOLE time i
was sitting, here like Oh, my god made my life so.
Much easier, but yeah we bootstrapped for the first couple,
of years like the typical. Entrepreneur story but we have
raised close to eight million dollars now through venture and

(39:42):
we've brought on some really great investors that, touch music that,
touch technology and now we're kind of armed with a
great team and great backers and We're.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Trying did you participate in, any of Say The New
York City business accelerator programs?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
At, ALL seriously I wish, i DID and i Wish
that i'm going to tell PEOPLE that i know that
are starting to look INTO these i did go to
a lot. OF meetups i did really focus on understanding.
The NEEDS but i remember that being a really scary
moment where it, Was like i'm going to quit, my
job not necessarily going to have, an INCOME and i
can't really raise any capital, right NOW but i knew

(40:19):
that there was product Market.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Fed yeah so how did you raise?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
The capital this was my. Second business the first one.
Was similarly it was a shift in how people were listening,
to music which was. Music streaming so in two thousand,
AND nine i helped start a company that was just
digitizing Music for india and then it ended up becoming
the largest music streaming Service, for india like three hundred.
Million users and we figured out how to create licenses

(40:46):
around the same Time that spotify Was, in sweden, AND we,
I mean india's a really cool market for music because
it Was, always bollywood but now there are artists and
we got to be there. For that AND so I
guess i built a lot of relations and ships and
goodwill from people during, that moment AND so i just
wanted to try to found something on.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
My own so you had, the, relationships yeah and that's what's,
really Important, right.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah absolutely but even then it's about having, the relationships
but then really trying to understand. Their NEEDS and i
really think a lot of my friends that would go
and get lunch with me and break down their actual
problems that they were.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
Dealing with so what have been some of the challenges
In getting hooked launched and built and?

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Out there biggest challenge getting apps store. Search optimization that's
our biggest challenge because if you search for a hook
it's like all, hookup apps and that is definitely the
biggest challenge we've. Been having you got to put in,
hook music don't download the other apps.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
VERY different.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
I don't want to be getting these ads on my phone,
like that? Right yeah so what is your marketing plan?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
For this we're doing really cool activations, with ARTISTS like
i can't say, any names but some pretty a list
artists we're working with them to do marketing campaigns that
maybe would expand them into fans that are of. Different
genres things like that being part of the rollout plans

(42:22):
for album releases of some pretty. Big artists we want
to prove right now that we can help impact artists
in any unique way through. Our PLATFORM and i think
that that's going to organically. MARKET itself i don't want to,
be like we're a, tech company. Use us i'd rather
the artists like naturally use us and then people will.

(42:42):
Find out but if you Go in apple in the
app store and just search For, hook music you can.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Find, us, OKAY well i think this would be so
much fun to. Play with oh, MY god I mean
i could get lost in it, for.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Hours you know when we get It.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
On, android okay so it's Hookmusic dot com and It's
on apple, phones iPhones but coming soon. Everywhere else and
how do people get a hold of you if they
just want.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
To talk to you gat Hookmusic. Dot com you can
just email me perfect.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
Thank you Passage to Profit With Richard.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Analyizabeth gerhart and now we're moving on to our, next
Guest Doctor. Tamika quick she has leading young women and
she is just doing amazing work helping people step up to.
Their potential so please tell us all about what.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
You're, doing essentially leading young women started out as a
aspiration to start an all. GIRLS school i have been
in higher education for about twenty years within the State Of,
new jersey and during one of my trips in taking
some Students, To ghana africa for a, SERVICE trip i
had the opportunity of watching a documentary on the, plane

(43:49):
ride and it was about an all girls School, In,
baltimore maryland and the movie really spoke to me from two. Different,
PERSPECTIVES one i was able to see myself in the
young ladies that were in. This movie in, this documentary
it really talked about young girls from the inner city
being raised by, single mothers being in, high school, being

(44:10):
involved despiring to go further with. Their education and then
the second space was an administrator in the school and
there was one young lady in the documentary who was,
struggling academically and the administrator is talking to a junior
college colleague and she starts crying, and saying this is
probably not ethical of me or showing the, most integrity

(44:32):
but if we don't help get this young lady into,
a school we're going to.

Speaker 8 (44:36):
Lose her and at, that.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Time working in higher education and being a woman, of
color there are just so many times that young ladies
have come to me with their, own stories their, own
experiences not knowing what it is that they wanted, to
do what direction they were, Going in AND so i
was able to see myself in that administrator. AS well
covid came AROUND and i did a little bit of
research about the all girls' school and learned that it

(45:00):
actually was a part of an organization from out Here
In new York and i'm Originally From, new YORK and
i saw that AS another, Aha moment so did, my research,
contacted them was able to engage, with them and actually
started my entrepreneur journey in. Twenty twenty so, ODDLY enough
i Actually Started leadership Academy For young women AS an,

(45:22):
llc FIRST because i knew that that was the NAME
that i wanted for the. Actual school we reconnected in
twenty one myself in the organization and started doing some
Digging In new jersey to see where was there a
need for young girls academically for us to explore the
idea of starting an all girls school so we Had
Identified jersey city and we're Working With jersey city to

(45:46):
start an all. Girls school it had actually gotten approved
and we were supposed to open it in the fall of.
Twenty one unfortunately that did. Not happen but because we
had already started the process and it, didn't happen isn't happening,
that year but we had postponed it by. A year
we wanted to get more settled within, the community connect with,

(46:06):
the community connect with, other organizations and That's How Leading young.
WOMEN evolved i started the NONPROFIT because i started connecting
with a bunch of organizations and Churches In, jersey city
meeting the young Ladies Of, jersey city and that's where
the community engagement aspect of our. Organization evolved so we
started doing back to, School drives we started doing vision

(46:28):
board parties as well as prom dress, drive events and
that was the community. Engagement arm the school was supposed
to open Again in september twenty, twenty two unfortunately did.
Not HAPPEN but i was very committed TO what i
had started and the work in just supporting young ladies
and whether it's, in, service leadership, personal development especially in the,

(46:50):
middle school high school, age range because that's when identity
development is happening for. Young girls that's when they're going
through the mean girl experience in school and just trying
to find themselves separate from their parents. As well SO
because i Am, FROM passaic i circled back into my
own town and actually had the opportunity of running a

(47:10):
pilot enrichment Program With Passaic high School.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
Last april so they gave.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Us the opportunity to run an enrichment program we Named
it Diamonds, and gems where we did a pilot program
with some young Ladies from April, to june meeting with
them twice a week talking about issues that they were
dealing with in school, at home but then also fostering,
female empowerment introducing them to different aspects.

Speaker 8 (47:33):
Of what it means to be a.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Young lady, from there we did a great job and
we were invited this year and so now we've been
running our full enrichment program with the high School since
november and it's been going really. Really well and, oddly
enough a middle school recently reached out, to us and
now we have an enrichment program with a middle school.

Speaker 8 (47:53):
As Well.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
In patterson the women that have been working with me
on this movement since twenty twenty said, to me, you
know the original, goal was in fact to start an all.
Girls School so i'm pleased to say that we just
submitted our charter school application to start an all girls
School In new jersey last month and we are currently
at the phase of waiting to hear back about whether

(48:15):
or not we've been approved. Or not if we have,
been approved we'll go on to, phase two which will
be need to be completed.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
By, mid june and then we will have.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Interviewing in the Month, of august and then if all,
goes well will Open. In september so it's been great,
a journey but it is doing PHENOMENAL and i am
having a great experience with the, YOUNG ladies i Can.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Tell judah we had talked a little bit actually on
the tour about some of the other resources that you
can leverage from, the state whether it's From The Economic development,
authority grants some of the support of organizations such As
The women's Center For ENTREPRENEURSHIP corporation cmx micro loans to

(49:03):
small businesses within the State Of new jersey in the
area that you're. Looking at small business. Development centers, you
know there's a whole group that. Supports nonprofits i'm sure
you're tapped into them to get some free advice.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
And COUNSELING as i was mentioning to, you before that's
the space that we. Are in this is essentially year
five and we have been getting a lot, of attention
a lot of people wanting to collaborate, and partner a
lot more young ladies wanting to join. The organization so
right last year or over, the year it's been about the,
enrichment programs but they've been tied to schools and a

(49:40):
lot more parents and young ladies ARE saying i want
to get involved. As well so now this year we
are looking to see how we might just be able
to run general programming as well as mentoring for girls
who are not tied to a school but fit within
the age range so we can. Support THEM and i
just recently found me a. Grant writer that's probably when
you talk. About challenges that's been one of the challenges

(50:01):
is being able to find someone who's committed to, this
work who wants to look for grants and apply. For
them it's, time consuming but a lot of this has
been based off, of, donations family my, own pockets and
so now the speed of the organization has outgrown. Those
things And now i'm learning About, Guide star i'm learning

(50:23):
About give better and how you collect the informations from
people who, have donated and how you continue to foster.
Those RELATIONSHIPS so i think this is the year of
us really taking it up a notch and trying to
secure some additional funding so that way we can do a,
lot more because the young ladies are.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Really, Excited YEAH and i just want TO say i
think that this is, so important and the reason it
is so important is because these are people who don't
realize their own potential and may never finish out school
or really rise up to what they. Can do and
then if you can keep, them there they can find
a cure for. Cancer, Years, right like this is who

(51:02):
you're bringing up and finding young people who. ARE smart
a lot of these kids are. Really smart they've just
never had a chance to.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Shut, Up Right and i'm constantly telling young ladies you
do not have to be a product of where your
life starts. Out right as, you mentioned it's about. The
journey there isn't an, end poll there isn't. A goalie
it is about going your life distance and being able
to embrace every part of that journey because that's going
to make you who you. Essentially Are so i'm constantly telling,

(51:29):
the girls we don't focus on where we are. Right
now we're focused on the step that's in front of
us and where it is that we're striving. To go
if you look, at statistics the album's supposed to, be
here single mom father who was an alcoholic and, on,
drugs right didn't have the. Best RELATIONSHIP but i got,
My degrees i'm successful, career wise AND now i Believe
that i'm in a Place where i'm pursuing my passion

(51:52):
and what my purpose is AND why i was. Brought
Here so i'm going to continue doing the work and
continue to try to support an.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
Advanced youngly what are the typical stories that you hear
from these?

Speaker 8 (52:02):
Young women there is, a mixture to be.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Quite honest you have SOME who i have one young
lady who is on the principal honor roll has been
on the principal honor roll for quite some time Here,
from jamaica, oddly enough has not seen her mom in,
seven years is here with. Her father extremely smart and
steadfast in her academics and, being involved but also just
also craves that woman engagement because of not being able

(52:28):
to see. Her mom and it's constantly coming to the
programs learning talking about what does it look like to
go to college in state or out? Of state because she's,
extremely bright and we talk about, mental health what does
mental health?

Speaker 8 (52:40):
Look like how do you do?

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Self care we just had a session last WEEK where
i had a woman who's. An esthetician she came in
and talked to them about what it means to be.
An esthetician but then she also did a workshop with
them on how they take care of, their face how
they produce great quality with, their skincare and things of.
THAT sort i had someone come in and introduce them

(53:04):
to what it means To become. Doules certified so right
now all students want to go. To college you do
have some students who want to go into the field,
with training so we expose them to all. OF that
i have another young lady who actually wants to do
hair and, plays softball so it's a wide variety of.
Young ladies this is my first time working with middle,

(53:25):
school GIRLS and i WILL say i was nervous, at first.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
But they are.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
A JOY they i have been able to notice the
sponge that they ARE and i, Think collectively i'm seeing
that these young girls desire to have somebody regularly. Engage
right and sometimes these young ladies who are coming from,
inner cities whether it's, single mom, single dad their parents
have to work and they are not always given the

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amount of parenting and time that they might need that
we as an organization are striving. To do and it's
connecting them to all different types of women from different
backgrounds and walks.

Speaker 8 (54:03):
Of life to show them success.

Speaker 7 (54:04):
Looks differently how do you organize all of the people
involved in how do the girls get?

Speaker 6 (54:11):
The information so.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
We definitely have, A Website leading youngwomen. Dot com we
have Social media Facebook. And instagram It's Both Leading young
women haven't gotten to TikTok. Just yet what we've done
is we do have our. Board members then we have
a leadership team who works with me on the. Regular planning,
right now everybody, is volunteer and then we also have
created something called Community advisory boards because we are looking

(54:35):
to serve. Different communities we've been able to find like
minded women who interested in giving back to young girls
and what we'll do is, sit down like right now
we're getting ready to sit down for our strategic plan
for this year and talk about what is this year
going to, look like what events and programs are we
going to, actually offer and which ones will be within

(54:56):
those communities, happening simultaneously and which ones will just be
one collectively the entire organization and we bring the. Girls together,
RIGHT now i just recently got a young woman who
had her own women's nonprofit organization but kind of stopped,
the work but she's still in. The movement she's now our,
enrichment coordinator so she's working with me to try and

(55:17):
acquire more opportunities with other middle schools and. High schools
we've also been able to get some interns who are
either in the social work field or teaching field who
are going to assist that's in facilitating some of these
programs because they need, the hours they need. The experience
AND then i also will have some interns over the
summer who are going to help with our social media

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and planning our events for the.

Speaker 7 (55:39):
Upcoming year can you share some stories from some of
the girls that have been through your program and the
progress that.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
They've made SURE so i Would say i'm having the
most success right now with the girls that are participating
In my Diamonds and gems Program In Passaic. HIGH school
i would say three of them. In particular there have
been colleagues from the high school who have come to
me and shared with me that they've seen such a

(56:06):
wide and huge difference from behavior to academics to level
of engagement within the school addressing conflict head. On right
one of the Things that i'm constantly talking to them
about is how they are able to manage their emotion
and how do we utilize what we're thinking and feeling
and actually. Vocalizing it our tagline for our Organization is Voices.

(56:30):
That matter constantly reassuring them and letting them know that their.
Voice matters one of the other Things that i'm also
always also teaching them is how to. Be silent there's
so much outside noise that we don't take enough time
to be in tune with our.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
Own.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Thoughts right and we have a woman who's a great
partner and colleague of mine who came in and did
trauma and healing with them and talking about what is
the difference between good thoughts and bad thoughts and how
do we push against the bad thoughts that we might.
Be having how do we practice mindfulness and staying in that,
and right your mind is going, to drift but how

(57:05):
do you bring. Yourself back so a lot of these
young ladies and starting to work. With them either the
absences were, really intense they might have been getting in trouble,
with suspensions or their grades weren't up to part and
now we're definitely seeing a. DIFFERENT transition i just recently
got an award two weeks ago From the Partnership for

(57:25):
Maternal And infant Health Of Northern. New jersey they gave
me an AWARD and i asked THEM if i could
have the opportunity of bringing four of the. Young ladies
it's a cocktail, hour business, SEMI formal i, should say
there were going to be a lot of. PEOPLE professionally
i wanted them to have. That experience so they did
give me four complimentary and they had the opportunity of
seeing what it meant, to network seeing what a silent,

(57:48):
auction was what it mean to have waiters coming around,
giving orderus what it meant to have a champagne glass
or putting a napkin on.

Speaker 8 (57:56):
Their lap, the valet opening.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
The door little experiences like that that at the end
of the night they were just a static because they had.

Speaker 8 (58:05):
That opportunity that's what.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
It's about it's about introducing them to things and giving
them access to things that they wouldn't.

Speaker 8 (58:11):
Normally have.

Speaker 7 (58:12):
That's wonderful earlier you mentioned sort of a strategic direction
to pursue like a. Charter, school yes why would you
do that as opposed to simply expanding the reach of your?
Current organization what benefits does?

Speaker 8 (58:26):
That offer so if.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
You look, at research the school that we have applied
for Is Called girls Academy for Leadership. And excellence we're CALLING.
It gaale girls academically perform differently when they are in
single gendered environments in comparison to co ed spaces BEFORE when,
i started when we were Trying In. Jersey city there's
a national organizations that is for all girls schools and

(58:50):
tons of research and data that shows the, success rate
the way in which girls will show up and speak up,
for themselves not worrying about The peer us are seeing
the level of engagement being very equal amongst each other.
As peers and then the other thing too is very.
Much access if we look. At it there are tons
of private schools for single gender but there are hardly

(59:15):
no public Schools In. NEW jersey i, should say because
there are a great deal to Hear In, new york
But In new jersey there are only two public all
boys schools and there are no public all. Girls SCHOOLS
so i am always pushing against what people have a
hard time in seeing where there's access, and EQUITY and

(59:36):
i just want to be able to afford these young
ladies the opportunity to be in an environment where they
can be their authentic selves and not feel as though
they have to put on any type of facade or be.
Something different they're all going through similar experiences with just
different players, and characters and wanting them to foster that
sense of sisterhood at a younger age because we are

(59:59):
seeing that women are running the world and we're doing
a great job.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
AT it i, will, say though it is hard for
girls at, that age especially because the boys don't want
the girls to be smarter, Than THEM and i think
that's a real thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
To SAY and i think one of the things to what
WE and i was explaining this, AS well stem is
a really big deal for young girls and steam is
a very.

Speaker 8 (01:00:22):
Big.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Deal okay so.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
That's one of the things that we've also been working
on is how do we partner with organizations that. Already,
exist so, For instance i've been having some conversations with
black girls who code and talking about if the school does,
get approved HOW might i work with them to be
able to foster some of the curriculum within the.

Speaker 8 (01:00:40):
Actual school so that way we are.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
In fact being intentional with the work that we're doing with.
THESE girls i want to look at the, big landscape
right and where are our girls underperforming or not doing?

Speaker 8 (01:00:53):
The most and those are the SPACES that i want
to bring.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Them, to well that is Awesome and i'm so happy you're.
Doing this unfortunately we're out. Of time but how do people?
Find you so my email is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Really easy my email is a quick At leading Youngwomen.
Dot com our website again Is leading Youngwomen dot com
all social. Media handles you can find Us By leading Youngwomen.

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In perspective whether it's business. Or social communication, is key
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Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Well one of the THINGS that I think i DO
is i create. A, BRAND now i didn't really wear,
it TODAY but i wear a hat, a Lot and
i'm sure you know that, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
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Of, brand yeah so you have so that people.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
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Older book but do you create a brand? For YOURSELF
and i see like pink is probably associated with your leading.
Young women you create, a brand create, an identity make
sure you're not trying to hide under a. Bushel basket create.

Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
A brand i Love that you're the first person who's
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Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Like that so. Thank you that is a very.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Good secret and you're always, your brand even if you're
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Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
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and obsess over it and try to understand how, it's
evolving try to understand where the, gaps are try to
understand where it. Needs you and that's really the secret.
To innovating that's.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
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Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Your secret the SECRET that i would suggest is not
to think of this journey of one that you have
to do on. Your own there are definitely people who
are willing to go on this journey. With you there
are people with resources and support that are willing to
go on the journey. With you and outside, of that

(01:05:21):
right there is enough room at the table for everyone
to be able to. BE successful i work with a
lot of women who work with young ladies and we
get together on a monthly basis and saying how can
we support? One another how can we advance the work
that we are each doing based off of the relationships
and the people that. We know so never be afraid

(01:05:43):
to collaborate with others or seek the support, from people
because people will help you.

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Heart law i'm going to go with something, less LOFTY
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Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
You know taking care, of yourself your mental and physical
health is very important when you're. An entrepreneur developing, good
routines doing a fair amount, of planning all of those
things that you do over and over and over again
that move you towards YOUR goals i think are key.

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To, SUCCESS yes i am going to. Say ADAPTABILITY so
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i've done a lot of different things in, my life
But what i've really had to adapt to is a.
Changing TECHNOLOGY and I luckily i love playing, with software

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so that's been kind of fun. For me but there's
other ways for people to adapt to what's going on in.
The world but the world's. Always changing things are always
going to. Be different we're never going to go back
to using horse and carriages to drive through. The streets.
So adaptability that.

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