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January 19, 2025 • 57 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
For cancer treatment. Most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated,
outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.
Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,
First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your
cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades
of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers

(00:32):
from head to toe. Cancer treatment with possibly a second
chance for you even if chemo radiation or surgery didn't
work or isn't tolerated. Goals are your best results and
quality of life. Meet doctor Liderman to hit the cancer.
He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices two one two choices to

(00:54):
meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Free book with DVD two super convenient Broadway
in thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to hit
your cancer. Call two one two choices, two one two choices.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's doctor Leiderman with Carrie Stubbs, who sings and writes
about his cancer treatment.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty If cataplane hop a
train don't has a taate, call to onto choices for
an appointment, Mate, So cancer Candy said straight my cancer.
It was twenty two centimeters. Now I am cancer free.
No cutting, no bleeding, no hospital stay, no chemo therapy.

(01:35):
I'm grateful to Doc taleder Man at New York Radio Surgery.
No cutting, no bleeding, no hospitals. Day made me very happy.
Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty eight. If the address
my cancer had been said straight, called to and two
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
For more information about innovator of cancer treatment, called doctor
Leaderman two and two choices, two and two choices, thirteen
eighty four Broadway. Most insurance is accepted for newer recurrent cancers.
Call Doctor Leiderman two and two choices.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Welcome everybody.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, m D,
New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist
who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world
renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course
answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

(02:42):
Studios in the heart of New York City, and now
please welcome doctor Leaderman.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
Thank you Rob, and thank you No and thank you
for tuning in today and every day, every day we're
here on the radio, sometimes many times the radio, and
we're here to educate. We're not selling any saying, so
we're so different. We're telling you what happens to people,
or talk to you about options. And just like a
student going to medical school, you learn from experience, you
learn from listening. And I have so many people come

(03:11):
and tell me, hey, doctor Liederman, I was listening to
you for years. I never thought it would be for
me or I'm a loved one, or for my neighbor
or the person down the street. And yeah, radio listeners
do save lives. They often save their own life and
often save their own parts of body, whether it's their
breast or the lung, or the pancreas or the bladder,
or their arm or their leg or their nose or

(03:33):
their eye that just been told elsewhere, Oh, you have
to have surgery, you have to have this, you have
to have that. Well, at Radio Sder New York, we
don't tell anyone you have to have anything. We try
to inform you. We're so different than the other guys
in general, maybe not everybody, but in general from the
people I see, and I see thousands of patients. I've
treated forty thousand patients in my lifetime with radio surgery,

(03:56):
and this is the work that we do every day
at Radio Surgery in New York. And so people say,
doctor Liederman, have you ever seen xyz like me? And
the answer is, look, I've probably seen more patients than
anyone else, forty thousand that I've treated, and I've seen
many many more. And this is all experience. This is
why so many patients like a surgeon with experience, a

(04:20):
doctor with experience, a pilot with experience, a human being
with experience. Why I have a virgin when you can
have someone has so much experience and no extra charge,
sad to say, And even here we accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.
So this is the work we do. We don't believe
in zoom and gloom and telephone calls. If you're serious

(04:41):
about cancer, then you come here. The patient comes here.
No one comes as stack. I have so many people come. Oh,
I'll send you twenty thousand pages. You just look it
over and get back to me. No, we don't do that.
We spend all our time on serious people who seriously
want to be here, who seriously want to have a consultation,
who's seriously want me to look at the records and

(05:02):
examine the patient and go over all the options. That's
the only way doctors and patients have known for hundreds
of years. That's the best way, and we adhere to that.
We're not trying to make a quick consultation on the
phone where you don't even know or see the doctor.
The doctor doesn't even know or see the patient or
loved ones. The doctor can examine the patient. It's so different,

(05:26):
serious place for serious people, with three types of people
that we see. One that you want to know what's
going on in your body. You have no idea. You're
worried about having breast cancer or prostate cancer, pancreas or whatever.
Or you have an unexplained weight loss or unexplained bleeding
or unexplained lump. This is the work that we do
every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway. Number one. Number two,

(05:48):
people have just just been diagnosed elsewhere, and yeah, you
can be diagnosed elsewhere and then come here. Lots of
people do that. They say, Oh, I had a biopsy
in my breast or my pancreas or prostate or live
or wherever. But I don't like the information that I'm
being given. I don't like the way it's been given.
I don't like the lack of options. I have a
doctor's telling me I have to do this. Well, if

(06:10):
you get nervous about that, well, it's another good reason
to come to Radio SERT in New York thirteen and
eighty four Broadway. And then the third group of people,
so we have one people want to know do have
cancer or not to have something serious going on? That's
one Two. I was just diagnosed, what should I do?
And number three I was diagnosed in the past, and
I've gone along my merry way with the doctors. I've
done everything they've told me. But it's not working out.

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The chemo's toxic, my hands and feet are numb, the
cancer is growing, the surgery has been devastating, the radiation
didn't work. And group number three, So many people come
to us when their treatment cancer, treatment just did not work.
So if fit in that category, whether you want to
know what's going to your body, you have no cancer,

(06:53):
or you recently diagnosed with cancer and want to know
the best options, or you've had treatments and it just
didn't work. Just the treatment's not tolerated, the cancer's not
gone away. Third category, many many people, thousands from around
the world to come here for usually one of those
three reasons. I want to talk about a man who

(07:14):
came to me years ago. He sixty year old man.
He actually works and lives in a church in Manhattan,
not far from us. He lives and works in a church.
He had prostate cancer at radiation in the past, so
I know it's the wonderful benefits of so often of
radiation and radiosurgery. And he had a heart disease, he
had a valve replacement, he had a blood clod he

(07:35):
had blood clots in his lung, and then he was
developing bleeding and bleeding in anemia. Was found to have
a gastric cancer and he went elsewhere for some reason.
He went elsewhere. He went elsewhere and was found to
have a gastric cancer at endoscopy, had a biopsy of
his stomach. He had gastric cancer, and he had scans

(07:57):
scans of his body to show that he had liver
asked stage four. So again it's a sixty year old
man lives and works in a church, A reliable, honest
man comes with his church people, comes with his clergy
and his clergy's staff, the Oh gang comes, and I
encourage that. I encourage patients to come with their loved

(08:17):
ones because sometimes people get nervous, they don't hear well,
or they don't understand well, and it's often good to
have that support around. So this man had prostate cancer
radied in the past successfully, he had heart surgery successfully,
and now comes with the gastric cancer stage four and elsewhere.

(08:38):
Super duper, duper, pooper, pooper duper. He's told he has
to have chemotherapy for the rest of his life. He's
sixty years old, and they tried it. He just doesn't
like it, didn't tolerate, didn't work. And then he came
here with all his church people. And I saw him
years ago and we examined him. We reviewed his skins,
reviewed his pathology, examined him. I sat with him and

(09:01):
all his church people and took all their questions and
answered all their questions. That their satisfaction. And then he said,
Doctor Lidherman, and I want you to be treating me.
You treated my prostate perfectly before. And I just didn't
like what I was told in the hospital that I
have stage four cancer. I need chemo for the rest
of my life. I just don't want that. I can't

(09:22):
tolerate that. I can't believe that at sixty they're going
to give you a chemotherapy for the rest of my life.
And I tried it. I don't like. It didn't work.
And he came here and we treated him. We treated
his gastric cancer and his liver metastasis, and we treated
him with radio surgery. So he made a stereotactic frame
of the body. We computerized his body, then sent thousands

(09:43):
of beams into the stomach and deliver metastasis at stage four.
Because the cancer started in one organ and spread to
another organ stage four and this is gastric cancer. It
was told, oh, you can't have surgery, you can't have radiation,
you got to have chemo for the rest of your life,
he was told, and he just refused to accept it,

(10:05):
and he came here with his supportive friends and colleagues
with his documents. I examined him and I confirmed, yeah,
he did have gastric cancer. It did travel to liver,
and it was stage four. But he was just adamant
about not receiving chemo for the rest of the life
because chemo for the rest of her life means basically
they understand that it would never work. Really, so I

(10:26):
keep on giving it. And the average chemo is one
hundred and two hundred thousand dollars a year. So it's
great for the doctors and the hospitals and the drug companies.
It's great for everybody really except for the patient. And
the patient was just adamant that there had to be
a better way, there had to be a better answer.
And he came here and they met with him, all

(10:49):
him and his loved ones, and we offered treatment. And
we offered him treatment out patient, no cutting, no bleeding,
no surgery, just invisible beams, thousands of beams to attack
the cancer, stomach and the liver, with no chemo, nothing
like he was told elsewhere, and it's strange. I mean, oh,
I went to Super Duper. They told me I have
to have chemo for rest of my life, so it

(11:10):
must be true. And I said, well, maybe it's true
for them, but why don't they tell you all the options.
Why don't they say, hey, we want to give you
a chemo for the rest of your life, but you
can go see doctor Liederman and have a few treatments
and most likely have good success. Why don't they ever
say that? Why do they never say, hey, we want
to give you a chemo for rest of your life,
will cost you two hundred thousand dollars a year, or

(11:32):
you can go see doctor Liderman and he can give
you other options. Why don't they ever tell the patient?
And I kind of have a pretty good idea it
never happens because I speak to all the patients and
they tell me exactly what's going on. So we treated them.
We made a stereotactic frame. It was all painless. It's
all patient. He lives and works in a church walking
distance from us, actually short walking distance from us, and

(11:54):
we treated him. There were no side effects. There's no
nausea and no vomiting, no skin changes, and that was
years ago, and now he's in remission. He's actually cancer free.
There's no evidence disease. He's had scans, he's had blood tests,
he's had physical exams. I meet with him on a
regular basis, and this is the work we do. So

(12:15):
we went from a patient. It was being told elsewhere
he gotta have chemo for the rest of your life,
versus here. He had a few treatments, outpatient treatments and
now he's in remission, scans and not twenty evidence of cancer.
What we treated is gone. He's happy about that. He's
doing great. He's active, he's carrying on all his normal activities.

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And this is the work that we do every day
at thirteen eighty four Broadway. In fact, doctor Liederman first
in America with stereotactic radio surgery, first in New York
with brain radio surgery, first to New York with fraction
of brain radio surgery, with decades of experience, and people
like experience, people like to get information. Many people walk

(12:58):
over just within our nameighborhood between Penn Station and Grand
Central and Port Authority and Brian Park Times Square. More
than a half a million people in our neighborhood every day,
and you may be one of them. If you are
to have a friend, you can come to our office
and pick up a package of information, or if it's easier,

(13:18):
just call us and we will mail it out at
no charge of package in DVD and you can look
over our information, or he can tune every day. Or
if you have an actual cancer, or if you want
to know about your body, give us a call. It
two and two two four six forty two thirty seven
two and two two four six forty two thirty seven
that to remember better. It's two and two choices and

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we will see if you want. We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.
This is the work that we do every day at
thirty tighty four Broadway. And this man, this churchman with
stage four cancer, turned down the chemo for rest of
his life, came here and now he's cancer free, doing right.
My name is doctor Liederman, will break back.

Speaker 8 (14:02):
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery
didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their
caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing
innovative cancer care for decades, when the next cancer drug
is not as promised. When surgery was to fail to pass,

(14:25):
we may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options.
We treat new and recurrent cancers small or large, most
anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, radiation or
surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices
two and two choices for a free booklet DVD thirty
eighth and Broadway. Most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid accepted, Harvard trained,

(14:49):
Triple Board certified Doctor Liederman two and two choices, two
and two choices for innovative cancer treatment. Best is to
meet doctor Liederman in person. Call two and two choices,
two and two choices.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

Speaker 9 (15:07):
You treated me. I had basil cell onto my cheek.
A buddy of mine went through the same thing. It
looked like they went out of him with a melon baller.
This was on my face. I don't want any caring.
I think I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep
it that way.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
So you are hats and we're going to Olympics. Usually
in America there's three million skin cancers a year. Ninety
nine percent of people were let down the primrose path
to have radical mos surgery for their skin cancer. Why
are you different.

Speaker 9 (15:30):
From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't
need to get radical deforming Come and see what we
could do. I have a lot of trust in what
I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were
very simple.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
If Miss America comes up to you right now, what
would she think about the results of your skin she.

Speaker 9 (15:43):
Would be able to keep her hands off. There is
zero indication it was ever there. You know, I don't
know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks,
doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path.
Doctor Leederman did the absolute perfect thing. That's where you
should do.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Any regrets, not at all.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
Call doctor Liederman at two and two Choices thirteen to
eighty four Broadway.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid accepted.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
We're just a few.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Steps from the Radio Surgery in New York Cancer Treatment
Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the
leading cancer expert treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was
the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liderman at two and two Choices for a free informative

(16:32):
booklet and DVD.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
We are back. I want to talk about a sixty
one year old man. He was born in Jamaica. He's
a black man. And I say that because in the
black community, one in six black men will get prostate cancer.
One in twenty three will die of prostate cancer. Why
do we say this, Well, we're not trying to scare anybody.
We're trying to wake people up and say, hey, I
don't know why PSA is. Maybe should come and get
a check. Remember we talked about the three categories of people.

(16:58):
Number one is people to come in and see what's
going on in their body. So we're hoping that people
will wake up and get diagnosed early and be one
of the six who have cancer and hopefully are cured.
Because about ninety percent of our patients are cancer free
versus one in twenty three Black men who die of
prostate cancer. So this man's sixty one years old, he's married,

(17:19):
he has five children. He is an active man. He
was diagnosed with prostate cancer one of the biggest hospitals
in New York City, and he had a more aggressive
cancer glease and seven cancer. He had multiple cores positive.
This was years ago. He never took loop around. He
had no surgery, no radiation, He has no noctoria, has
no pain, no bleeding, no headaches. He's eating, is fined,

(17:42):
never smoked. He had coonoscopy, so he's doing all the
right things. He went checked for his prostate he had conoscopy.
But he has a father, and it's so common in
the black community, so common in the Caribbean community. He
had a father who died of prostate cancer. So what
does it Meannumber one, you're at higher risk for cancer.
In fact, the father at prostate cancer. Now the patient

(18:04):
has prostate cancer. Number one, number two. If you have
a first degree relative with prostate cancer, it increases your
chance of dying by more than seventy percent. So there's
lots of reasons why this man made a great decision
to come here. He was doing well, he's on phlomax
for the urine. He had had a hernia surgery. Nothing

(18:26):
more than that he was worked up at one of
the big super duper places. His father died of prostate cancer.
I examined him at a large prostate All his questions
were answered. We talked about all the options with us.
With Glease and seven cancer, our success rate is ninety percent.
If you look at the best surgeons in America, success
is about forty six percent. So what do you want?

(18:50):
Radiation with less good results, surgery with forty six percent.
With surgery for prostate cancer, ninety seven percent of the
men are not having adequate erections. Eighty percent are peeing
in the pants. They're shortening of the penis with surgery.
So why would a man want to have radical robotic
surgery if he knew better? Well sad to say. Often

(19:14):
the surgeon doesn't tell the man, Hey, ninety seven percent,
chance your erections would be gone, eighty percent You'll be
peeing in your pants, your penis would be shorter. And
success is only forty six percent with the best surgeon,
not the average person with the best surgeon versus ninety percent.
Here with doctor Liederman and Well years ago, This man

(19:35):
came to us years ago. He chose our treatment, saw
patient therapy, walked in, got his treatment, and walked out,
which he liked a lot too. And yeah, years later,
his PSA is now zero. His sex life works, he's working,
he's carrying on, his urinary life is a okay. This

(19:55):
is the work that we do every day at thirteen
eighty four Broadway, and not all treatment is alike. It's
so important to realize that there are huge differences when
you come here. We'll show you differences between different forms
of radiation, different forms of surgery, all the options, even
versus no treatment. Most men want to be cancer free.

(20:18):
Most men want to have the cancer go away. And
how do you know the cancer goes away and stays away? Well,
with prostate cancer is easy. The PSA should go down
to zero and stay at zero for the rest of
the person's life. And this is the work we do.
We'll show you booklets about that, or many examples of
our patients came with PSAs that were high and she

(20:40):
go down to zero and stay there for the rest
of your life with our treatment only. This is the
work that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
In thirty eighth Street in the heart of New York City.
We have an extensive experience, more than nine thousand men
treated for prostate cancer by guess who, probably more than

(21:02):
anyone else over decades. And this is the work that
we do every day. We'll talk about a phone call.
A man called me up and he said, well, the
message is please call back. Patient would like to ask
some questions. So the man called back about his parent
and he was the parent was seen at a super

(21:22):
duper pooper General super General hospital and was told he
had pancreas cancer. He was in the hospital and he's
now going on hospice with no treatment. No treatment, just
go go to the hospital, get a blood test, get
a scan, and told oh, you're going to go on

(21:45):
hospice and die. And the son seemed loving, a little
bit maybe naive, and believed everything he was told almost
until he called doctor Liederman and I told him that
there's only options. You can have hospice. If you want
hospice means you're going to die. You're going to die.

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There's no medical care, there's no scans, there's no reports,
there's no biopsies, or you could be treated and for
pancrest cancer where we aim to beam. Our success rate
is over ninety percent for the pancreas cancer, all with
no cutting and no bleeding, and we treat people. I've
treated a person as high as one hundred and one

(22:27):
years old, actually one hundred and five years old, so
it's not an age issue. It seems that in some
places I think if you can't take chemo or surgery,
then off to hospice. And the hospitals get paid for hospice.
It's not like a charitable thing. It's not like going
to the vatic and they get paid. It's another profit center.
So you may want to think about that before you

(22:49):
go off on hospice. And if you know someone's on hospice,
you can actually if you want, if you want medical
care be evaluated, you can get off of hospice and
have medical care. So hospice is not necessarily a one
way trip. So if you're on hospice and you want
a consultation, you can get off hospice and come over

(23:10):
to thirteen eighty four Broadway. You can do that, and
if you want, you get off hospice and have treatment
like this patient is on hospice, but for pancrest cancers.
Our success right where we am the beam for pancreas
cancers very high, non invasive, it's well tolerated, even if
you're one hundred and five or ninety five or sixty

(23:30):
five or thirty five. And this is the work that
we do. So the patient's child, the family member knew
there were options. That's why they called. But sad to say,
the patient already signed up for a hospice with the
child's support, and they may want to reconsider why not.
What do you have to lose once you die? You die,

(23:52):
if you live, even if you live longer. We know
the people that have radio sorted in general live longer
than those who don't. There's lots of reasons to consider
radio surgery for one's cancer. So this is the work
we do. We have information to send. We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.
So just because you're on hospice doesn't mean you're stuck there.

(24:15):
You can get out of hospice as you can. It's
your right to get out of hospice and get real
medical care. It has a chance of making you better,
and we've seen that before. We've seen it so often.
This is the work that we do every day at
thirteen eighty four Broadway. I want to talk one more
a minute to introduce myself because so many people are

(24:35):
talk talk talk, talk talk about cancer like they know
a lot, and often we find out it's not even
a doctor or a cancer doctor or even someone in
the medical profession. So just because Aunt Telly, oh, my
aunt Kelly had this and now blah blah blah, that
doesn't mean really good or bad. It's an anecdote. It's
one example. It's not an anecdote. And we try to

(24:56):
talk about experience from thousands of patients studied and this
is the work we do. So I'll tell you about
myself so you know he was on the other side
of the radio. My name's doctor Gil Liederman. I was
born and raised in Waterlooio. Went to public school, worked
my way through, paid for my college, paid for my
medical school MD, real MD, doctor, real medical doctor at

(25:17):
age twenty five, like my illustrious brother Ted doctor Ted
Liederman MD at twenty five, and like my son, my
wonderful son Ariel Leaderman MD at twenty five. He went
on to famous hospitals universities across the country, and his
board certified in on collegey cancer treatment, and patients and
their loved ones and others are so lucky to have

(25:40):
doctor Ariel Leaderman care for them. So this is the
work that we do every day at thirty d four Broadway.
Whether you want treatment or not, that's up to you,
but there's lots of reasons to consider treatment. One more
thing I should tell you, and that is that we're
live on the radio, and that means that you can

(26:01):
call and with your questions. A lot of people say, hey,
doctor Liederman, why don't you talk about x y z.
So let's talk about x y z. If you want
cancer issues, just call us at one eight hundred three
two one zero seven ten. One eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten. Noah will pick up the call.
No give me the call, and then you can ask
your questions so you can have your questions answered. So

(26:22):
feel free. We are live now from now till noon.
Call us at one eight hundred three two one zero
seven ten and ask your question about cancer cancer issues.
Give us a call if you wish. And one more
thing I should tell you, and that is that we're
live now from now until noon, and then again again
at one until two on WR here today and every day.

(26:47):
We're on a wr every day at midnight. Lots of
people like to go to sleep with Doctor Liederman and
wake up with Doctor Liderman at midnight. Many people around
the world listen to that show because whatever they're in
China and it's the next day. This is the work
we do, and I should take you on Saturdays. Our
schedule on Saturdays is eleven am to noon, one to

(27:08):
two pm, three to four pm, and five to six pm,
all on WOR here. We are live on the radio,
so give us a call. Don't be bashful. I went
on after medical school at twenty five to go to
Harvard Medical School. I first went to University of Chicago
and Michael Reese trained internal medicine, spent three years, treated

(27:30):
thousands of patients, board certified, then went on to Harvard
Medical School at the prestigious Dana Farbor was on the
staff and was there years treated thousands of patients. Trained there,
board certified, and then at Harvard Medical School the Joint
Center for Edition Therapy prestigious Joint Center Harvard Medical School
years more, trained treated thousands of patients, board certified. The

(27:54):
only Harvard trained triple Board certified radiation doctor in New York,
one of the few in the world. Here for you,
and by the way, we accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid.
We're located at thirteen eighty four Broadway in the heart
of New York City. Broadway in thirty eighth Street, in
the heart of New York City, accepting most insurances. Seeing

(28:15):
patients with desire to know what's going in their body
or recently diagnosed with cancer, one of the best options
or all the options when so many doctors and facilities
hide options. We talk about all the options. And then
the third category is people have been diagnosed and treated
elsewhere and the treatments is not going well. The treatment's

(28:36):
not tolerated, treatment's not wanted, it's not doing what it's
supposed to do. So there's three big categories. Give us
a coffee, wanted two and two choices two and two,
two four, six, forty two thirty seven. We'll be right back.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
It's Johnny Braggs talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago. I
came to doctor Lederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.
My stepfather died after prostate surgery. My uncle never recovered
from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leederman with prostate
cancer and high PSA. Doctor Leederman explained all options, shared

(29:11):
his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Leederman twenty years ago.
Today I trust doctor Liederman even more. My prostate cancer
is gone, my PSA is zero, my quality of life
is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too, like me
for over twenty years. Call doctor Leederman for prostate cancer.

(29:34):
Two one two choices. That's two one two choices. Thirteen
eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Street in Manhattan. Most insurance, Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Leederman two and two choices.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
It's doctor Liederman with Calvin West singing and writing about
his cancer treatment.

Speaker 11 (29:55):
I had cancer at the radio surgery.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
Read that.

Speaker 11 (30:12):
Choice.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
I'm so glad that we do.

Speaker 11 (30:18):
You wanna thank Dot lenham Man for me and you
heliot to cancer.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
It's my counting on two.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Three, Well up, no more pay?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Read your granddad is such a free cancer treatment? Called
doctor Liederman two and two choices. Two and two choices
called doctor Liederman.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the w o
R studios in the hearts of New York City were
just a few steps from the Radio Surgery New York
Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(31:07):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radiosurgery. You can also call doctor Liderman
at two and two Choices for a free informative booklet
and DVD.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
We're back. I want to talk about a man fifty
seven years old. He came to us. He had a
catheter in place. He couldn't urinate. He couldn't urinate. He
was seeing doctors. Of course, the urologists and others put
the catheter in, so he saw other doctors. He was
not urinating on his own for ninety days. He came
to me. He had a high PSA. As PSA was nine.
We got an MRI the prostate. There was a nodule

(31:41):
in the prostate. He's a smoker. We advised him to
stop smoking. Smoking causes lots of illnesses shortens the life man.
He was on insulin and mid forman and flomax. He
saw his diabetes and urinary attention. His father died, he
believes of lung cancer. I examined him and he refused

(32:02):
a physical exam. He refused a recto exam. For the
recto exam is really important to know what the stage is.
You can feel the prostate smooth or enlarged or nodular.
He just didn't want a physical exam. And of course
the patient is always the king or queen of their body,
so he didn't want it. We did the best we could.

(32:23):
We got the MRI, we got a biopsy, so we
had a biopsy proven cancer PSA nine, and he wanted
to be treated. This was seven years ago, so seven
years ago it came with diabetes and retention. And now
seven years later, after our treatment only outpatient therapy. We
walk in the door, get your treatment and walk out.

(32:45):
No cutting, no major surgery, no chemo. Only with our treatment,
as PSA is now zero. He's cancer free now, urinate's
on his own, his sex life works, so he's very
happy about being in remission. He had this advanced prostate
cancer and well his main issue is his diabetes. So

(33:06):
that's great news that the cancer is pretty much gone.
The cancer is gone. The urination is aoka after our treatment,
and lots of men come here because they want to
get the best possible treatment for prostate cancer. We spent
a lot of time with each man about their situation,
and we'll talk about a man who had a kidney

(33:28):
cancer with liver metastasis. He was sixty three years old,
he was married. He had a kidney cancer. He went
to a super pooper hospital and they cut out his kidney.
They didn't tell him, hey, you can see doctor Liederman
and have non invasive treatment with high success for the
kidney cancer. They didn't tell him that. They just told him,
you have to cut out your kidney for kidney cancer,

(33:49):
even though the cancer had traveled. So he was married,
he's came by himself. He had this kidney cancer. It
was dog years ago. He was seen by a super
famous surgeon at a super pooper hospital and well, the
surgery didn't work and the cancer traveled. He was told
by a super duper surgeon that he got to have surgery.

(34:10):
Well it didn't work. The cancer kept on growing. He
went to this super duper place. He had two years
of chemotherapy which didn't work. There were lots of side effects.
It didn't work, and he came to me. He got
evaluated and we found not only was the kidney cancer back,
but it spread to the liver and the lungs. And
he was really upset. He told, oh, you have to

(34:33):
have chemo for the rest of your life. And he
just fed up with it and he came to me
years ago, and years ago we decid, okay, we're going
to start with the worst tumor, which was in the livers.
There was kidney cancer that traveled to the liver, and
you always named the cancer from where it comes. It's like,
how do you name a wind, Like a northerly wind
is from the north. It's not going to the north,

(34:54):
it's from the north. A wind is named from whence
it combs. My father, the pilot, used to to say it,
And the cancer is the same way. The cancer is
named from whence it comes. So this kidney cancer trouble
to deliver is still a kidney cancer that's metastatic to
the liver and lungs. And he decided years ago after
Chimo didn't work at XYZ super Duper to come here,

(35:18):
and we treated his kidney cancer troubled to deliver non
invasively in the stereotypic frame with the work we do,
and his streament was great. He was so happy. And
then his doctors called him up and said, oh, you
have to come back to x y Z because you
need chemo the rest of your life. And he believed them.
It's sad to say he believed it, and he took

(35:39):
another two years of chemotherapy and now he's so angry
at them. He's so angry because he knows that of
all the treatment he had the kidney cancer operation, he
had his kidney removed, it didn't work. The cancer came back.
Then he had years of chemotherapy, the cancer grew grew,
and the lungs grew in the lil liver. Then he

(36:01):
came to me after two years of chemo elsewhere at
super duper, super famous place with treatment. None of their
treatment worked, really because the purpose of removing that kidney
was to cure his cancer. It didn't work. The chemo
didn't work for the lung and in fact, the cancer
then traveled during the chemo to the liver. He had

(36:21):
chemo and immunotherapy, and he came to us. We treated
the cancer and the liver was biopsy proven, and then
they got angry at him and said, oh, you have
to come back and have chemo, and he did it.
He was scared by them and believe them. And now
he's so angry. He's so angry that they weren't honest
with him. They didn't tell him that the surgery never worked,

(36:42):
the chimo never worked, had four years of chemo. The
average chemo is one hundred to two hundred thousand dollars
a year, so he spent about a half a million
dollars on chemo. And even people say, oh, I don't pay.
Someone else pays. My insurance pays, but we all pay.
That's why insurance rates are double. That's why people are
struggling because they're spending so much money for useless treatment

(37:03):
like his treatment four years of useless chemo that didn't work.
And chemo does not cure kidney cancer. When we treat
kidney cancer, kidney cancer and the kidney ninety percent chance
that cancer will go away and stay away, which is
so different than chemo, where the cancer always comes back
after chemo for kidney and most cancers. So now he's

(37:25):
come back to me years later after we treated the liver,
and now he wants to cancer and the right and
left lungs to be treated. And this is the work
that we do. Of course, we've got approval from insurance company.
And people say, oh, doctor Liederman, do you work with insurance. Yes,
of course we always call the insurance company and get approval.
You can buy treatment if you want, but most people

(37:45):
don't want to do that. Most people want their insurance
to pay. And now we've treated the cancer in the
right and left long and in deliver and sad to say,
it didn't come to us at the beginning, when the
cancer was just in the kidney. He believed his surgeons
at super Duper General and sad to say their treatment
didn't work. Their surgery didn't work. Even though its super

(38:07):
Duper General. Four years of chemo didn't work. The cancer
kept growing everywhere except one place. The only place that
the treatment worked was the cancer and deliver where we
treated him. And he's so angry with himself for not
believing and not understanding the difference between radiosurgery and chemo
and emunotherapy until now. So now he's come back. He

(38:29):
wants to cancer in the right and left lung treated,
and that's what we've completed. And he's doing great, and
he's ambutory, and he goes around our our office talking
to everybody about don't believe them at XYZ because their
chemo just did not work. I'm not saying chemo never worked,
but for this man, and for most people, even if
chemo works for a while, then it stops working. This

(38:52):
is the work we do every day. This is why
one person, one doctor, stood up to all the others
who loved chemo and standard radiation and surgery. One doctor
stood up and said, hey, there's another way. And guess
who that doctor is. He works at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
His phone number is two and two choices, and his

(39:12):
name is my name, doctor Liederman. I will talk about
a eighty six year old woman, delightful woman. She's a teacher,
she's single, she has one child. Her daughter had breast cancer,
and now she came with a mass in the right breast.
I saw her quite some time ago. She also had
incontinents of stool and urine, and we're working her up

(39:35):
for that. But she's most concerned about this mess and
the breast. Her weight is one thirty five, her heightess
five foot five. She had an ultrasound showing a speculated
mass highly suspicious for cancers, one point four centimeters right
behind the nipple on the right side. She'd also had
scans of her abdomen, scans of her brain. She'd had

(39:56):
surgery before in her tonsils and ankles, and we examined her,
examined and she had a mass a centimeters and a
half right next to the nippo. The olymphinolds were negative
and we worked drop and we found this one cancer
and we suggested biopsy because biopsy tells you, hey, this
is what it is. With cancer. You want to know
two things, basically what kind of cancer it is and

(40:20):
where is it? So you kind of need both answers,
what kind of cancer it is and where is it.
And this is the work that we do every day
at thirteen to four Broadway. And she's chosen our treatment.
She just does not want to have surgery, she doesn't
want to have chemo immunotherapy or hormone therapy. And we've
gone over the results with her and she's going through

(40:41):
our treatment in beautiful way. I saw her yesterday she's
feeling fine, doing great. Everything's fine. This is the work
that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway
for new or recurrent breast cancers most anywhere in your body.
We've got information to send you. We've got a book
with DVD. Just give us a call at two and

(41:03):
two two four six forty two thirty seven. My name
is doctor Liederman. Now we're talking about a woman who
comes to us from another hospital. She was actually referred
from a super duper hospital. She's seventy eight years old.
She was born in New York City. She's single. She
has one child daughter. She had narcolepsy and she volunteered
for a research study at one of the biggest hospitals

(41:26):
in New York City, and they were looking for people
with headaches and she had a headache, and so they
offered her free MRI and well showed cancer in her brain.
She came almost three years ago with cancer in the brain.
And then the doctors had the super duper hospital said hey,
you should go see doctor Liederman. He has the most experienced,

(41:46):
which is quite a nice compliment. Usually super duper general said, oh,
don't go to him. Get chemo or surgery, well, Luckily
she had a great doctor who offered her good advice.
She came here.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
We worked her up.

Speaker 7 (41:58):
We found the cancer not only in the brain, but
in the lung. She had a small cell cancer of
the lung, which is a kind of often smoking blade
of cancer. And well, she had to have some shortest
of breath on exertion, and she is an ex smoker.
And I examined her. She had a sister with breast cancer.
So this woman had cancer traveled with the brain. We

(42:20):
worked her up. We found cancer in her chest. It's
called a small cell cancer. And this is the work
that we do every day at thirty four Broadway. And
three years ago, usually the survival for someone with cancer
the brain is very little. Well, we treated her three
years ago, and do I know what happened to her. Well,
she's got scans of her body. We had treated by

(42:41):
the way, the cancer and the lung and the cancer
in her brain treated both, and both cancers are in
her mission. She's doing well. There's no active cancer, there's
no new cancers or chemo doctors at Oh, you got
a chemo for the rest of your life. It's going
to be growing everywhere. We know that chemo doesn't work
very well, but she wanted to treatment, and we treated
her brain. We treated the cancer only in the brain.

(43:04):
People come here becausely like the idea of treating the
cancer without hurting the healthy brain, and treating the lung,
treating the cancer in the cancer area, not the whole lung.
And this is the work we do. It's now but
three years since she was diagnosed and she is in remission.
We just got scans of her. She's here with her daughter.

(43:24):
And this is what we do every day at thirty
dighty four Broadway, broad Away, thirty eighth Street in the
heart of New York City. I'm gonna take a short break.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 10 (43:36):
Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm
Johnny Bragg's. The number two for my stepfather who died
of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much
after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since
doctor Leiderman's successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The number zero,
which is my PSA zero after doctor Leaderman's successful prostate

(43:59):
cancer treatment. What every man wants? The numbers one, two, three,
four important for every man with prostate cancer. One getting
the most successful treatment. Two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three
keeping sexual functions. Four maintain in urinary control. Call my
doctor Liderman two and two choices, two and two choices

(44:20):
to consider his prostate cancer treatment for you most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Call
two and two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor
Liederman two one two choices. I'm glad I did You'll
be number one with doctor Lederman.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Speedy recovery for Defense chiefs secret prostate cancer surgery on
Christmas Eve, not informing even the President returned an ambulance
with pain absess bow obstruction. Secret turned disaster, sadly believed
is urologists, like many with prostate cancer, radical prostate surgery
has many complications, leakage, impotence, shortening, inferior result ELT's death.

(45:01):
Thousands come to doctor Liederman to learn all prostate cancer
options from New York's only Harvard trained, Triple Board certified
radiation oncologist. Defense chief sadly believed Pie and Sky promises
another reason to meet doctor Liederman about highly effective prostate
cancer treatment. Avoiding radical surgery best is to meet doctor Liederman.
Call doctor Liederman two and two choices, two and two choices,

(45:24):
thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices, thirteen
eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Call doctor Leederman two
and two choices.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R
Studios in the hearts of New York City.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Were just a few steps from.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
The radio Surgery in New York Cancer Treatment Center on
Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the leading cancer expert,
treats prostate cancer non invasively. He was the first in
New York with fractionated brain radio surgery, and he's the
first in America and in the West on a Hemisphere
with body radiosurgery. You can also call doctor Liederman at
two and two choices for a free informative booklet and DVD.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Hey doctor Liederman, we're.

Speaker 7 (46:09):
Back, We're back, and it is doctor Liederman. We're here
for you every day. In fact, one man who came
with a mass in his breast area. It came ten
years ago with a mass in the breast. He's sixty
seven years old. He was single, no children. He had
a skin cancer, and he was found to have a
mass in his left anterior chest. He had a biopsy alshore.

(46:29):
It was called a cellular schwanoma. It was a nerve tumor.
And he saw doctors in a neighboring state at a
super duper hospital and they wanted to cut out his
chest wall. So he wanted to cut out the muscle
and the ribs and all the tissues of the chest
wall on the left side for a schwanoma. Well, we
atually or the probably most experienced treating schwan omas. I've

(46:51):
treated so many vestibular swanomas. These are tumors of the
hearing nerve. It's a common tumor for the hearing nerve,
but overall rare tumorol together. So this man came with
a schwanoma and he said, Doctor Linderman, I have ever
treed shwanoma before. I don him. We have the largest
experience in the world with fractioned radio surgery for treating

(47:12):
Schwanhoma's most commonly of the hearing nerve, of the eighth nerve.
It causes hearing loss and ringing in the ears and
surgeries devastating. I've done it so many times, thousands over decades.
And he came with a schwanoma can be anywhere where
the nerve is, and there's nerves anywhere in your body,
and he just did not want to have radical surgery

(47:32):
to movever his chest and his breast and his ribs
and his muscles and be laid up in the hospital
and be deformed. And he came ten years ago. Ten
years ago, he came with this and I met with
him and we explained all the issues, his pathologies, reviewed
it super Duper General, and he was seen at super
Duper General, and he was seen by pulmonary and thoracic

(47:55):
surgery and plastic surgery, and they want to do deforming surgery.
And we treated him and we treated him out patient
with no cutting and no bleeding. His pinpoint treatment, he
laid down with made a frame of the body and
send invisible beams which you don't feel or touch. In fact,
nothing touches the patient and we send in these beams.

(48:17):
And he had these beams called body radio surgery pinpoint
treatment ten years ago. And now his tumor free, the
tumor's gone away, he's in remission, no deformity. You could
see him. He looks perfect. It's been ten years. He
came at sixty seventy, now seventy seven. This is the
work that we do every day. Some people say, doctor Liebrand,

(48:40):
have you ever seen anything like mine? And I've treated
forty thousand patients, probably more than anyone else around. This
is the work we do every day. At thirteen eighty
four Broadway, I was about a man with bladder cancer.
He was seen also in a neighboring state, and well,
he was seen by urologist. He has some blood in
the urine, some pain. Gurologist did a biopsy, but it

(49:01):
didn't show cancer, invasive cancer. Showed a superficial cancer. The
doctor did no scans, no MRIs, no PET scans, nothing,
and he said, I want to cut out your bladder. Well,
cutting out the bladder for superficial cancer. And my view
is totally wrong. There's no reason for it. And he
came here six months ago and I saw him and

(49:23):
I said, well, what you need is a biopsy to
see if there is invasive cancer. Need a scan of
your body to see if there was any spread of
the cancer, and he said, oh, I don't like it.
It's too far away. He lived in a neighboring state.
It's too far away. And he took six months to
wake up. His doctor never responded to him. His doctors
wanted to cut out this bladder, which would have made

(49:45):
he never urinate normally, would have taken away his sex life.
His doctors wanted to cut out the bladder without any
scans or knowing what kind of cancer it was or
if it was cancer. Wanted to cut out the bladder
without even knowing if it traveled. And finally he woke up.
Finally he woke up, and finally he got the scans.
I recommend it. We asked for a PET scan, we
asked for an MRI, and in fact he did have

(50:08):
metastatic cancer. He had nodules in his pelvis, and we
biapsied the nodules showing metastatic bladder cancer. So in about
two minutes we were able to diagnose him where elsewhere.
He had gone for nearly a year with no diagnosis elsewhere.
He just wanted to cut out his bladder without knowing
what he had or where it was. And now he

(50:30):
knows exactly where it is. It's an invasive bladder cancer,
and we staged him up and he wants treatment to
try to extend his life. And this is the work
we do so different elsewhere. They wanted to cut out
his bladder, not knowing what kind of tumor it was,
not knowing where the tumor was, not even doing the
proper thing for a so called superficial cancer. He wanted

(50:52):
to cut the bladder, which is not the proper thing.
We see so many people with bladder cancer or issues
around the pelvic area. We treat cancer anywhere from head
to toe, which had a lot of skin cancers because
most people don't want part of their eye or ears,
or nose or face cut off. With us, there's skin
cancer treatment that's highly successful, unique doses, ninety five percent

(51:13):
success with no cutting and no bleeding, which is so
different than Moe's surgery, MOS's excavations. WI treat cancers and
tumors of the brain and the head and the neck
and the chest and the abdomen. And for this man
who we're now treating his bladder cancer, where else were
they able to remove his bladder for a cancer, And
even though kind of cancer it was and we stayed

(51:35):
and we found, in fact, because of their delay, likely
likely not guaranteed, but likely the cancer traveled. And now
he has traveling cancer, bladder cancer. And this is the
work we do every day. And now all of a sudden,
the man who said, oh, it's so far to come
to thirty eighth in Broadway, he's here every day. He
loves it here. He loves to meet with me, he

(51:57):
loves to talk with me. And I asked his wife,
and his wife said, well, why do you think we're
here every day? Because we like how you care for us.
You are so different. And this is the work that
we do every day at thirteen enty four Broadway, whether
it's for breast cancer, lung cancer, pancreats, or liver or
bladder prostate. This is the work we do every day

(52:21):
at thirteen eighty four Broadway, Broadway, in thirty eighth Street.
When I about a man from Guiana, he's fifty four
years old, electrician, murdered with nine children. He came to
with a gleas In eight cancer. Nearly ten years ago.
Gleason eight cancer had high blood pressure, diabetes, his PSA
was going up. Gleason is how the cancer looks under

(52:41):
the microscope. So Gleason score tells you how aggressive the
cancer is. Gleason eight is an aggressive cancer. Gleason numbers
go from two to ten. Two is the lowest risk,
ten is the most, eight is one of the most.
He had a very high risk cancer and now a
decade later, he's cancer free. His sex life works, his
urinary life works. This is the work that we do

(53:03):
every day at Radio Surgery, New York. And I talk
about a man who's eighty one years old. He's from Yugoslavia.
He's widowed, he has five children. He came to us
with pancreas cancer and spreading to the liver. It was growing.
He had radical surgery at one of the super duper hospitals.
They cut out his They cut out as pancreas and

(53:23):
it didn't work. They cut out his pancres when the
cancer already traveled to the delivery, already had stage four cancer.
Cutting out the pancreas seldom works. He came to us
with stage four cancers. Surgery didn't work, Chemo didn't work,
and he wants our treatment to try to get into
remission even though he has an advanced cancer. And this
is the work that we do every day, whether it's

(53:45):
for pancreas or others, primary cancers or recurrent cancers, new cancers,
this is the work we do. We stage him up
and he's doing great. We'll talk about a man who
is related to one of the biggest rock and rollers.
He had prostate cancer Glease and sick twenty eight years
ago Gleason six PSA eight point nine two. He too
is cancer free as PSA is zero, doing great. This

(54:08):
is the work that we do every day at thirty
d four Broadway. It's always best to meet in person.
If they have questions, call us at two and two
choices two and two two four six forty two thirty seven.
Check us online rs n Y dot org.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
Thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with
doctor Gil Leiderman and myself. If you have questions before
next week's show or want a free informative booklet and DVD,
just contact doctor Liederman at two one two choices. That's
two one two two four six four two three seven.
That's two one two two four six four two three seven.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
For cancer treatment, most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated
outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery Pioneer's goal too.
Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,
First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your
cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades
of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers.

(55:28):
From head to toe cancer treatment with possibly a second
chance for you. Meet doctor Liderman to hit the cancer.
He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified Radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices, two one two choices to
meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Free booklet DVD two super convenient Broadway in

(55:51):
thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liderman to hit your cancer.
Call two one two choices, two one two choices.

Speaker 12 (55:58):
Did you know that you've got to choice? Says that
there can be a bad way. Did you know that
you've got choices? Conductor, They don't mean today. To want
to choices is a much bad way to want too choices, Conductor,

(56:22):
they don't mean today. Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 7 (56:30):
That there can.

Speaker 12 (56:31):
Be a bad way? Did you know that you've got choices? Conductor,
they don't mean today. To want to choices is a
much bad way to want too choices, Conductor, thea don't

(56:51):
mean today.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Doctor Leaderman, Cancer Treatment, thirteen eighty four, Broadway.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
The proceeding was a podcast. iHeartRadio's hosting of this podcast
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