1PM Dr. Lederman Discusses Various Treatments for Cancer

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Speaker 5 (02:19):
Welcome everybody.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, m D,
New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist
who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world
renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course
answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

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Studios in the heart of New York City, and now
please welcome doctor Leaderman.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Thank you Rob, and thank you Noah, and thank you
for tuning in today and every day on the radio.
Every day we're here, and every day we offer what
we think is a helper education to those who wish
well I listen. Well. You may say I don't want
to listen about cancer. It's too boring, it's too sad.
Or you might say, hey, maybe one day I'll need

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help and I want to learn about the options in advance,
or maybe you're going through an issue right now. And
I can tell you every day I see patients who
come in who want to know if they have cancer.
So that's one group. Another group have just been diagnosed
with cancer. Another group have had cancer diagnosed and they
don't like what's going on and they want a fresh

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second opinion to learn about options that they may have
never heard about before. And I'm gonna jump right in
and talk about as beautiful woman, A beautiful woman who's
sad to say, I think took the wrong avenue and
maybe I was given the wrong avenue or wrong directions
in life. She's sixty five year old woman. She's beautiful,

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she's very elegant. She takes care of herself and her
clothes and or everything about her. Yet about two years
ago she was diagnosed with the cancer of the pyrotid.
The product gland is a gland in the face and
the cheek area. It's the gland that's responsible for producing salivas.
So when we eat, we need saliva to mix with

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the food. It starts the digestion, so there's a digestive process.
Of course, we have a teeth to bite the food off,
or we have teeth to chew into little pieces, and
then we have all these juices in the mouth to
start digestion, and so we need that juice. We need
the saliva to digest. And without saliva, we would be

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cooked goose because we just would have so much trouble
eating and maintaining our nutrition. So that's what the product
glands do. The product glands, for some reason, gotta to
put all these organs and tissues and functions in our
own beautiful body. And what we have discovered, of course,
is that the facial nerve, the nerve that's responsible for

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moving the face and the eyebrows and the mouth and
to smile and to eat and to close your mouth,
that facial nerve goes right through the parodied gland. And
so the big dilemma, of course for people who have
a tumor or cancer of the prodigt land is that
cutting the parodied gland may well damage the facial nerve.

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If the facial nerve is damaged. And you may have
seen people that half of their face is totally normal
and half of the face, the whole face is collapsed.
The eyes don't close, they can't smile, they can't have
facial expression on one side, and yet the other side
is totally normal. And that's several reasons for that. Of course,
some people have it's called Bell's palsy, which is a

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benign condition. But some people who have cancer or they've
had treatment, like this woman, sad to say, had treatment.
So what was her treatment and what was her story?
So this beautiful woman two years ago had a parodied cancer,
and she thought she was really smart and went to
a super duper pooper place. And I know people think, oh,
I know who you're talking about. Well, actually you don't,

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because oh so there's so many places that think they're
super duper pooper places. And if you meet the president
of these places like I have, everyone will tell you
how their place is so super pooper duper scooper. So
she went to a super duper pooper scooper place and
they did surgery on her the first time they did surgery,
and well, there wasn't exactly complete surgery, and so they

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gave her a course of standard radiation. And while within
a short period of time the cancer came rip roaring back,
Why well it came rip roaring back because the surgery
was not adequate. Number one and number two of their
treatment wasn't adequate. The way they gave the radiation, the
dose and so on was not adequate to stop the cancer.

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So then the cancer within about a year and a
half comes right back in the same spot. So obviously
the surgery failed, the radiation failed, standard radiation failed. And
what does this place do, the super duper pooper place
where surgery already failed and radiation already failed, They go
in and do the same thing again, and this time

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they even cut out the whole facial nerve while they're
trying to get to the cancer. And then they give
her a whole course of radiation again, which is really
super toxic because they gave doses that were relatively high
the first time and relatively high the second time, and
so they kind of doubled down on all these very
toxic treatments which have now destroyed her face. This beautiful,

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elegant woman. This treatment has destroyed her face. And that's
the only part of the issue here that we're talking
about today. Number One, they gave surgery and radiation that failed,
then the treatment failed, and they gave the same treatment again.
And you're talking about super duper places. Some of these
surgeries are fifty thousand dollars or one hundred thousand dollars.
The radiation in these places is often many times can

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be up to ten times more expensive than radio certan
New York radio storty where I work and what I
speak about, and we know that we even know an
ARP magazine. They have said, if you want the most
economical care for your cancer, bang for your buck, you
go to an independent, freestanding radiology or radiation center. Well

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that's not what this lady did. She thought she was
going to a super duper general, super duper place and
had super duper surgery. And wait till you hear this.
So they cut out her full facial nerve. Remember the
surgery failed the first time, the radiation failed the first time.
Then they did the same thing again. And meanwhile, while
they were doing that, the cancer had already traveled. So

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she has metastasis or cancer. It's already traveled to multiple
spots in her body. And they knew that. They knew
that when they cut her facial nerve. So they've in
my view, destroyed her quality of life, destroyed it because
she can't smile. She can't has a cup of coffee
or a sip of soup. The super coffee come right
out of her mouth. Because she can't close her mouth.

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She can't close her eye. And we know if you
can't close your eye lid, then you it was your eye.
You go blind in that eye because you knew the
lubrication of the eyelids to keep your function of your eye.
So they tried to put a gold weight in her
eyelid to try to keep her eyelid moving down, trying
to close her eye that hasn't worked well. Her face

(09:16):
is not functioned. And then why does she come to me?
Why does she come to doctor Liederman after she's been
at Super Duper General. She had two surgeries, both failed.
She had standard radiation twice. I mean, you're talking about
treatment that probably was probably two hundred thousand dollars and
it all failed. And meanwhile they did the surgery on
her parodi gland while they knew the cancer had already traveled. Wow. Wow,

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So in my view, they destroyed her quality of life,
her life, not to mention the all the treatment that
they gave, all the treatment failed. And why does she
come to me? When she comes to me, because the
cancer has already traveled to various parts of her body,
and interestingly enough, paradat cancers can travel almost anywhere, like
any cancer. And she came to me with pain in

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the buttock area, and we scanned her. We found huge masses,
actually two large huge masses in her right bottock where
she was having terrible pain. She couldn't even sit down,
she was having so much pain. So now on top,
her face doesn't work. On bottom, she has cancer in
her bottom, causing her terrible pain and suffering, unable even

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to sit down, so from top to bottom, she's really suffering.
We staged her up. They actually knew the cancer had
already traveled when they did that surgery that caused the
calamity in her face, So we staged her up. We
talked about all the options. She does not want any chemotherapy.
In fact, chemotherapy does not work very well for this cancer.
Chemotherapy in fact always fails. And you say, well, why

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were we proposing chemotherapy that's one hundred or two hundred
thousand dollars a year, and that's the usual price of
chemotherapy in America one hundred to two hudred thousand dollars
a year. If they knew it was always going to fail,
and what did we do in exchange? We staged her up.
We've offered a biopsy to prove this is the cancer
of the product, which was easy to do with the
tiny little needle, and then we've offered her treatment to

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this big mass, actually a double mass, it's almost like
a barbell double mass in her right bottock where she's
having terrible pain. She has a huge mass. She can
feel the mass. We can see the mass. It's biopsy positive,
and we're treating her now in just a short course
of treatment, unlike over there at Super Duper General, where
they gave her seven weeks of radiation and after surgery.

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The first time, they gave her seven weeks even special
treatment called proton beam, which didn't work either, didn't work
either in costs and is much more elaborate and expensive
than the usual treatment. None of that word. She's here
receiving radiosurgery to this mass in the bottock, the double
mass in the bottock, and now finally, for the first time,

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she's having a treatment that's working, that's relieving her pain
and suffering. She can finally sit down, she can finally
feel the cancer going away, and she can feel it herself,
and we of course prove it. One of the things
people ask me every day is how do you know
the cancer's gone away? And it's a question everyone asks.
In fact, one of our book That's Even is devoted
to that, how do I know my cancer's going away?

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And there's different ways. Some cancers, let's say, for prostate cancer,
there's markers like PSA, and other cancers have blood tests
which are most consistent, not always, but most consistent with
the cancer returning or going away. So in some patients
we can do that. Some patients, like skin cancers, we
can see, we can see with our eye. We can

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usually see them going away. And we treat thousands of
skin cancers. There's three million skin cancers new skin cancers
a year in America, and we can see them. For
patients that don't want radical surgery, don't want most surgery,
don't want deformity for their aquamous carcinoma or basal cell
carco with the skin, come here for non invasive treatment.

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And we see patients every day with skin cancers, probably
more than anyone else. And of course there's cancers deep
in the body, like let's say pancreas cancer, which we
can get scans on, or lung cancers or kidney cancers
or liver cancers. These are cancers that are best, for example,
evaluated not only but for example by imaging in some

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of those cancers. Kidney cancers don't have a blood test
for it, but lung cancers often do like CEA, and
breast cancers often do like CEA. In fifteen three and
twenty seven to twenty nine, So there's different ways, and
of course the physical exam and talking to the patient,
all these things are so important. So for this woman

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that went to Super Duper General, she had double surgery
which left her face paralyzed forever for the rest of
her life. It will not be repaired and cannot be repaired.
Really when had she had double dose radiation which did
not work, while she had stage four cancer, which was
totally ignored by her doctors over there at Super Duper General.

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So this is a word we do. It's why so
many people come here for a fresh second opinion, and
so many people are happy they've come, and so many
people learn about options. We're not afraid about talking of options.
It seems like so often doctors instead of talking about
all the options and informing a patient, which I believe,
we're morally obliged to talk about all the options, whether

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it's our option or someone else's option, we're morally obliged.
It seems like so often, so many surgeoncs talk about surgery,
so many chemo doctors talk about chemo, not talking about
all the options. When you come to Radio Serting, New
York at thirteen to eighty four Broadway, doctor Liederman work except
most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. You'll learn about all the options.
In fact, you'll get package of information in the literature.

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In fact, you can even call now, call two and
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no cost and no obligation. By the way, you'll see options.
We talk about options. We like to talk about options.
We like to inform, and in fact, that's why we're
on the radio today and every daymultiple times every day,

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to talk about all the options so you can learn.
You can learn from this woman how you can think
you're going to super duper General and you're thinking you're
getting the best care, when in fact it turned into calamity.
It was calamity for multiple reasons. Number one, the initial
treatment didn't work. They often talk about where you go
first matters. Yeah, that's right, and sad to say, she
went to some place where their treatment didn't work the

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first time, or the second time, or the third time
or the fourth time, and then finally she came to
radio sir to New York where finally she's having treatment
to shrink the cancer and ninety percent chance that cancer
where we attack it will never come back, which is
so different than chemotherapy or instance where the cancer always
comes back. This is the work that we do every

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Triple Board Certified, Harvard trained, the only Harvard Train Triple
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We're located at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty
eighth Street, in the heart of New York City. Super convenient.

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We're on I don't know fifteen subway lines, bus lines.
You can so easily find us in the heart of
New York City near Times Square. Here for you if
you wish, I'm doctor Liederman. We'll be right back.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery
didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their
caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing
innovative cancer care for decades, when the next cancer drug
is not as promised, when surgery was to fail to pass.

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We may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options.
We treat new and recurrent cancers small or large, most
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Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
You treated me. I had basil cell onto my cheek.
A buddy of mine went through the same thing that
looked like they went out of him with a melon baller.
This was on my face. I don't want any caring.
I think I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep
it that way.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
So you are hats and we're going to Olympics. Usually
in America there's three million skin cancers a year. Ninety
nine percent of people are let down the primrose path
to have radical mos surgery for their skin cancer. Why
are you different.

Speaker 8 (17:45):
From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't
need to get radical deforming. Come and see what we
could do. I have a lot of trust in what
I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were
very simple.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
If Miss America comes up to here right now, what
would she think about the results of your skin she.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
Would be able to keep hands off. There is zero
indication it was ever there. You know, I don't know
that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks, doctor Leadman.
I tell anybody who's going down the same path. Doctor
Leiderman did the absolute perfect thing.

Speaker 9 (18:09):
That's where you should do.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Any regrets, not at all. Call doctor Liederman at two
and two Choices thirteen and eighty four Broadway. Most insurances, Medicare,
Medicaid accepted.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City for just a
few steps from the Radio Surgery in New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert treat prostate cancer non invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

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and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liderman at two and two Choices for a free informative
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Speaker 5 (18:49):
Hey, doctor Liederman, We're back.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
We are back. I want to talk about a sixty
seven year old man. He's a Black man. And I
say that because in the Black community, one in six
Black men get prostate cancer. One in two, only three
die of prostate cancer. We treat men and women and
children of every race and religion and creed and color.
You can imagine why we talk about the black community
because there's a very high risk. In fact, every man

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is susceptible, and I've seen men of every origin having
prostate cancer. So if you're a man, could you have
a risk of cancer? Yes. And one of the things
people talk about all the time is how do I
have cancer? No one my family has cancer. Well, the
fact is about ninety percent of cancers occurrent people who
have no family history. Just this week, I spoke to
a family and he said, how can I have cancer?

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I don't have any symptoms? And explain to them it
was about a prostate cancer. How you can have a
nodule of cancer in your prostate and you don't feel anything.
You don't urinate different than before, you don't have blood
in the urine, you don't have pain, you don't have suffering.
But you can have a nodule. In fact, you can
have a nodule anywhere in your breast or your lung,
or your pancreas, or your liver or your colon and

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have cancer not feel anything. In fact, when you feel something,
it's often too late, often means you have stage four cancer.
So don't wait to feel something if you want to
come in and get checked out. That's a big group.
About a third of our patients come in because they
want to know, Hey, am I okay? Are my breasts okay?
Is my lung okay? Do have pancreas cancer? To have

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liver cancer? Do I have prostate cancer? Many people coming
to want to get checked out, And you'd be surprised
how many people we find having one cancer and sometimes
even two cancer, which I'll talk about in a few minutes.
So this is a man sixty seven years old, he's married,
he has two kids. He came with his wife. He
has a sister of eye disease and high blood pressure.

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He had a high PSA as PSA was five, five
point four, five point six and six point three, and
he never at a biopsy. Even though he's a black man,
he never at a biopsy. What's the usual recommendations for
every man. The recommendations for every man is to be
considered for a biopsy when your PSA is four or high.

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PSA is prosthetic specific antigen. If you watch our DVD
about our men, in this group of about a dozen
of fantastic men, you'll hear about a man whose PSA
was three and he had prostate cancer, and it's an
amazing story. He was following his PSA with his doctor
and his doctor tomo, your PSA is only three, don't worry,
everything's okay. And this man is very methodical, and he said, doctor,

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my PSA was zero point eight and one point five
and two and two point five, and now it's three.
It's quadrupled. My PSA is quadrupled. How can you say
it's okay? And in fact, he insisted on getting a biopsy.
He insisted. This is double seven, who you'll hear about
all the time on the radio. We talk about him
a lot because he's so vocal and he's not ashamed.

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In fact, he's happy to help other people. And in
fact he had cancer. So just because your PSA is
lessened for doesn't guarantee you you have no cancer. And
about twenty percent of men with PSA three we have cancer.
About fifteen percent with PSA two of cancer, so you
can have cancer even at a lower point. But this
man had high PSA's five point four, five point six,

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six point three, No biopsy was ever recommended. And then
the next PSA was thirteen, so it doubled. Went from
six point three to thirteen, it doubled. And not only
at that point when it went so high did he
get from his doctor, not by me, from his doctor,
an MRI and a bone skin and a biopsy, and
the cancer biopsy showed Gleason eight. So Gleason is how

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the cancer looks under the microscope. When people ask me
so often, what's my Gleason score, Well, you only get
a Gleason score when cancer is found on the biopsy.
So he had a very high Gleason score. Gleason eight
is one of the highest ones, and in fact he
had twelve cores or twelve needles put in his prostate,
which is pretty typical. Ten of the twelve showed cancer,

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so we had a lot of cancer in the prostate.
Ten of twelve cores were positive. He had a glease
in eight and he had a PSA of thirteen, so
he had very high risk cancer. He had been followed
for all these years and he had noctoria. He was
waking up at night once to night. He had different
urinary symptoms of the daytime. He had no bleeding and

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no pain. He didn't ask me, how could it be. No,
he knew he had cancer, but he had no bleeding
and no pain. So here was someone with a very
very aggressive cancer with no bleeding and no pain whatsoever.
He was waking up only once a night to yearne
which is pretty typical for a seventy year old man.
His weight was one seventy two, same as it was
two years before, so I had his five eleven. His

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bowels were okay. He had colin oscarby before. He had
no fevers or chills. He had no treatment for his cancer.
He had MRI done and MRI showed the cancer grown
through the capsule of the prostate. His lymph notes were negative.
He had what's called a py red five. So when
there's an MRI done, and MRI is the best way

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to look at the prostate with imaging, he had a
py red five. The scale goes from one, which means
most likely benign to five, most likely cancer. And he
had a py red five one alf centimeter lesion in
the prostate. And he was seen by his doctor's doctor
want to do surgery, and he was at one of
the most famous hospitals in in Connecticut, and in Connecticut,

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they want to do surgery on him with a very
high risk cancer. The chance of successful surgery was very
very low, probably twenty percent or less, meaning eighty percent
chances cancer would come back. If he had surgery open
or robotic surgery, ninety seven percent chance he'd lose his erections,
eighty percent chance he'd be peeing in his pants. Surgery

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also because it cuts out the prostate and the urethra,
the urinary tube that goes through it. Just like when
a plumber cuts part of a pipe, they have to
bring the ends together, which shortens the pipe. When the
urologist cuts out the prostate, it shortens the penis. So
surgery opens surgery, robotics, or he does all these things
that most men don't like. Poor success rate, high failure rate,

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high chance of damaging his quality of life, most likely
to lose erections, most likely to leak urine, and most
likely of a shorter penis. And he had heard about
radio surgery New York from a friend of his who
was treated here successfully years ago. And one more thing
I should tell you about this man. He came to
me seven years ago. Seven years ago, he came to

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me with a gleasonate cancer ten cores positive. A PSA
had more than doubled, thirteen point six. It was triple
the normal, So normals four. Let's say he was thirteen
point six and so many years ago. Seven years ago,
he came to me. And he came just this week.
Every patient I'm talking about I've just seen in the

(25:48):
last few days. He came just a couple of days ago.
I took notes, I examined him, and I brought notes here.
His PSA is now zero, and I can tell you
he's so happy. His sex life works, his urinary life works,
his body has not been deformed by radical surgery. His
PSA is zero. How do you know your successfully too

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with prostate cancer, that the PSA goes down to zero
and stays at zero for the rest of your life.
And that's not with deforming or altering hormones. Hormones. Some
places give hormones to everyone with prosta cancer. Seems like
most everyone with prostac cancer. Hormones artificially make the PSA
goes down, so you can't really see if the treatment's
really working. So when you're taking loupron or other hormones,

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they artificially make the PSA go down, which obscures the
success of the real treatment. So we less a person
insists on it. We talk about hormones, we talk about
the plus and minuses, but we talk about our data.
Our data is all based on hormone free, no hormone treatment.
And he had a high risk cancer with a high

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PSA and a high Gleason score with cancer growing through
the caps and now seven years later, his PSA is
still zero with no hormones, no further treatment, just a
short course of outpatient therapy for his prostate cancer. Here
we've treated nine thousand men over decades with high success,
and that's why so many men with prostate cancer come

(27:14):
to us It's why so many men with prostate issues,
whether it's a high PSA or frequent urination, or some
men come even with poor erections and other issues come
here for evaluation. You're always welcome. This is doctor Liederman,
thirteen eighty four Broadway, Broadway in thirty eighth Street, in
the heart of New York City, where we see men
and women and children of every race and religion and

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creed and color. When it concerns new symptoms like high
PSA or lump in the breast, or you just want
to get checked out, or you've had treatment elsewhere you
just don't like the treatment elsewhere. This is the work
that we do every day. So this man with a
very high risk cancer glesonate PSA thirteen cancer through the capsule.

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Seven years later, can't You're free, happy, healthy, doing great.
This is the work that we do every day at
thirteen eighty four Broadway. My nam Doctor Liederman, and we'll
be right back.

Speaker 10 (28:11):
It's Johnny Bragg's talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago. I
came to doctor Liederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.
My stepfather died days after prostate surgery. My uncle never
recovered from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leederman with
prostate cancer and high PSA. Doctor Leederman explained all options,

(28:32):
shared his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Liederman twenty
years ago. Today I trust doctor Leederman even more. My
prostate cancer is gone, my PSA is zero, my quality
of life is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too,
like me for over twenty years. Called doctor Liederman for

(28:54):
prostate cancer. Two one two choices. That's two one two choices.
Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Street in Manhattan.
Most insurance, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Leederman two and
two choices.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's doctor Leederman with Calvin West singing and writing about
his cancer treatment.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I had cancer and my home was upsideca at the
radio surge you read tomorrow we got choices.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
I'm so glad that let me. Do you want to
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Speaker 4 (29:41):
Leadham men photo twice phone.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Me and you.

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Heliet your cancer.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
It's my account. In two o two three, well said.

Speaker 11 (29:56):
No more pays a reader.

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You can't is too free?

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Speaker 6 (30:08):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City. We're just a
few steps from the Radio Surgery New York Cancer Treatment
Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the
leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was
the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(30:28):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liderman at two and two Choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Hey, doctor Liderman, we're back.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
We are back. I just want to tell you one
more little secret. That is that we are live on
the radio. That means you can call us. So so
many people say, hey, doctor Liederman, why don't you talk
about this or that or the next thing. Well, we're live,
so you can call. You don't have to be embarrassed,
you don't have to give your name, you have to
do anything except call one eight hundred and three two
one zero seven ten. Noah will pick up the call.

(31:01):
Noah will put the call right through to me. This
is doctor Liederman. Call us if you have a cancer question,
the cancer question or question related to the things we
talk about in the radio. One eight hundred three two
one zero seven ten. One eight hundred three two one
zero seven ten one eight hundred three two one zero
seven ten. And I want to take it just a

(31:22):
minute to introduce myself because I like to do that.
I like to know for you to know who you're
listening to, because so many people talk on the radio
you have no idea if they're a doctor or a
salesman or what the heck. So I'll introduce myself. My
name is doctor Gil Liederman. I was born and raised
in Waterloo, Iowa. I went to public school, University MD
Medical School, Real Medical doctor MD at twenty five, like

(31:45):
my brother Ted, doctor Ted Liederman, also MD at twenty five,
like my illustrious, wonderful son, doctor Ariel Leaderman, who's loved
by his patients and families and staff and everyone who
interacts with him, Ril Leaderman, also doctor Ariel Liederman, MD,
MD at twenty five. Three Doctor Liederman's all mds at

(32:06):
twenty five. I went on to I should say one
more thing ariel Leederman works here at thirtenty four Broadway,
sees patients, and patients are lucky to see him. They're
lucky with his meticulous nature and his caring nature, and
his thoughtful, unending diligence nature. He sees patients. He's trained

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to the biggest universities in America. His board certified. Here
for you and you can make an appointment and see
doctor Ario Leaderman at thirtyenty four Broadway accepts most insurances Medicare, Medicaid,
thirty tenty four Broadway. You can call him or call
make an appointment to see him at two and two
two four six forty two thirty seven in name that

(32:50):
phone numbers two and two choices, because we truly believe
you have choices like you've heard today and you'll hear
just over the next few minutes, two and two choices.
I went on a MD to University of Chicago. Michael
Reese trained at Internal Medicine three years, board certified, then
went into Harvard Medical School, went to Dana Harbord Cancer
Institute years there, trained there on the staff there, board

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certified in medical oncology. Having treated thousands of patients in
Boston and then went on to the famous Harvard Medical
School Joint Center for Radiation Therapy, which is a conglomerate
of about five Harvard hospitals, where I trained, Board certified,
the only Harvard trained triple Board certified radiation doctor in

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New York, one of the few in the world. Here
for you. So that's who we are, and if you
want to introduce yourself, make an appointment and we can
meet in person and talk about your medical cancer issues.
I'm talking about a woman who came from Ecuador. She's
sixty two years old, lovely woman, whittled with two children.
She came with a skin cancer on her nose. She

(33:55):
had a terrible skin cancer on her nose. It was
very big, and she was seen by a dermatologist. Dermatologist
derm is a Latin word for skin ologist, means one
who studies, but actually a dermatologist is a surgeon. So
she was seen for this lump, a big lump on
her nose, on the right side of her nose, and
they wanted to cut out the right side of her nose,

(34:17):
and she it was a basal cell cancer shut a biopsy,
and she just did not want to have the right
side of her nose cut off. And so many people
come with skin cancers or wherever the eye, the eyelid,
the nose, the ears and mouth, hands, feet, body, and
who just do not want to have radical and deforming surgery.

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And she did not want that. She's been seeing me
over the last five years, and we treated that skin
cancers all non invasively, with no cutting, no bleeding, no deformity,
and she didn't have much of a hard choice to
choose us over deforming surgery. Her dermatologist center to most.
In fact, I believe the Dermatoi just sends almost every

(35:01):
patient to Moe's surgery, which is an expensive radical It's
like an excavation of the area which her nose would
have been excavated. And she just did not want that.
She came here and she's now cancer free and she's
very happy, doing great And this is the work we
do every day at thirty eighty four Broadway. We have

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special information. If you're interested in skin cancers, what they
look like or what our work looks like, you can
call her office, you go online. Also, our website is
r SNY dot org. R s ny dot org. You'll
see lots of information. We're in caller office now or
whenever you want and let us know what kind of

(35:42):
information you want. If you want about skin cancer, will
send a book at about skin Cancer and DVD. Just
call us it to one two choices. There's no charge
for that. We'll put a package in the mail or
many many people come to our office at thirty dy
four Broadway just to pick up in and for a
loved one who they want to have some information about

(36:05):
other options. There's many listeners who really get upset when
their friends or neighbors have treatment that they don't agree with,
the treatment of chemo or surgery or standard radiation. And
lots of our listeners are pretty strong believers. A lot
of listeners have heard me over decades. I've been on
the radio for about thirty five years, so a long time,

(36:28):
and a lot of people have learned a lot. Just
like when you go to medical school and you take
a normal person, at the end of four years, you
turn him or her into a doctor. Well, many of
our listeners have learned a lot over years of listening.
So you can call for information or come in if
you have a medical problem. It's always best to come

(36:48):
in person with your medical records. You can make an appointment.
We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
But like a man I've seen for almost twenty five
years now, about seventy five years old. I saw him
twenty years ago, twenty five years ago actually, with an
acoustic neuroman. Acoustic neroma is a tumor on the hearing nerve.

(37:09):
It's a tumor that usually surgeons like to cut out.
The problem is when the surgeons cut it out, it's
a tumor on the hearing nerve. You can imagine when
they cut it out, often the hearing has destroyed. And
because the seventh crannial nerve, there's twelve nerves coming off
the brain, and the seventh nerve controls a face. We

(37:30):
talked about the face earlier when the woman had a
facial nerve cut. Well, the facial nerve starts deep in
the brain right by the hearing nerve, the eighth nerve,
and so often when the surgeons cut on the hearing nerve,
they destroy the facial nerve. So losing the face is
also very common with acoustic noroma. Losing hearing is very common.

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Some people don't even make it through the surgery. We've
started a program dating back thirty five years, first in
America with the lowest dough treatment pinpoint treatment for treatment
of acoustic neuromas, with high success or success rate his
ninety seven percent. So this man came to me twenty

(38:11):
five years ago with an acoustic neuroma. What's the sign
of acoustic roma. Well, he might have unilateral hearing loss,
maybe he can't use the phone in one side, or
maybe tenetus, or maybe that's ringing in the years, or
maybe some numbness in the face or funny sensations in
the face. Then we get a scan and find a
mass on the acoustic nerve, which is the eighth cranial nerve.

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And it might be small. We've seen tumors that are
a melimeter or two melimeters super tiny, and we see
tumors that are huge. And we have a highly successful program.
And he came to me twenty five years ago because
he did not want to have radical surgery in his head.
He just did not want to have his eighth nerve cot.
He didn't want to lose hearing or face. He didn't

(38:57):
want that. He didn't want the risk of surgery and
his hearing doctor's ear doctor did not tell him about
any other option than surgery. So he was very happy
when he came and he learned from us all the options,
and then he came back twenty years later. So he
came back about five years ago and I saw him.

(39:17):
I saw him. We checked out his acoustic nerve and
the tumor and everything is a okay. And he said,
did you get a PSA lately? And his PSA was high,
it was going up, and he was on Finesterite. Finesterrite
is a medicine that shrinks the prostate but also artificially
lowers the PSA. So his PSA had gone up to five,
but in fact Finesterrite artificially lowers the PSA, so it

(39:40):
was real. Psa was like ten. And I said, well,
did you get did your doctor tell you when they
gave you a finesteride that it artificially lowers the psa?
And he said no, So he got a psa. He's
unfinesster His PSA is five, which means it's equal to
about ten. We got a biopsy and he had a
high risk cancer. So he's a man who came from

(40:00):
a tumor in his head twenty five years ago. And
then about five years ago comes with a check up,
we check his prostate and we find he has prostate cancer.
And he trusted us because we treated his acoustic neroma
so well with no side effects, no cutting, no bleeding,
no hearing loss, no facial loss, that he wanted us

(40:22):
to treat his prostate cancer. And he was treated for
prostate cancer with no radical surgery, no robotic surgery, no hormones,
only outpatient pinpoint treatment here and now PSA is also zero.
So his acoustic nerve tumor is successfully treated now almost

(40:42):
twenty five years ago. His prostate cancer is successfully treated
now five years ago. And I can tell you he's
a very very happy patient having gone through two tumors.
One a benign tumor of the head of the brain
that can cause terrible consequence, and benign and malignant means
something different in the head because benign tumors in the

(41:04):
body can usually just be cut out without consequences, not always,
but usually in the brain, when they start cutting on
the benign tumor, it often causes terrible consequences, terrible lifelong consequences.
And he didn't want that either, so he came to
the doctor first performed radio surgery in New York. We
have decades of experience with thousands of people treated with

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high success where we attack cancers of the brain like
a metastasis, which are cancers that travel to the brain,
or glioblastomas or astrocytomas. We also treat benign tumors like
meningiomas and acoustic noromas and pituitary tumors and other tumors.
This is the work that we do every day at

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thirteen eighty four Broadway with the longest experience of radiosurgery
in New York, or the longest experiences in the world.
First in New York with brain radio surgery, first New
York with fraction of brain radio surgery, first in America,
first in the Western hemisphere, of course, first in New
York with body radio surgery. This is the work that

(42:09):
we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway,
in thirty eighth Street, in the heart of New York City. Rahms,
Doctor Liederman, We'll be right back.

Speaker 10 (42:20):
Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm
Johnny Bragg's the number two for my stepfather who died
of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much
after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since
doctor Liederman's successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The number zero,
which is my PSA zero after doctor Liederman's successful prostate

(42:43):
cancer treatment. What every man wants? The number is one, two, three,
four important for every man with prostate cancer. One getting
the most successful treatment, two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three
keeping sexual function, four maintaining urinary control. Call my doctor
Liederman two and two choices two and two choices to

(43:04):
consider his prostate cancer treatment for you. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth. Call
two on two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor
Liederman two one two choices. I'm glad I did. You'll
be number one with doctor Leiderman.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Speedy recovery for Defense Chief's secret prostate cancer surgery on
Christmas Eve, not informing even the President returned an ambulance
with pain absess bowl obstruction, secret turned disaster, sadly believed
is urologists, Like many with prostate cancer, radical prostate surgery
has many complications. Leakage impotence, shortening, inferior results death. Thousands

(43:45):
come to doctor Liederman to learn all prostate cancer options
from New York's only Harvard trained, Triple Board certified Radiation oncologist.
Defense chief sadly believed Pie and Sky promises another reason
to meet doctor Liederman about highly effective prostate cancer treatment
avoiding radical surgery. Best is to meet doctor Liederman. Call
doctor Liederman two and two choices, two and two choices,

(44:09):
thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices thirteen
eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Call doctor Leederman two
and two choices.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R
Studios in the.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Hearts of New York City. Were just a few steps.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
From the radio Surgery in New York Cancer Treatment Center
on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the leading
cancer expert, treats prostate cancer non invasively. He was the
first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery, and
he's the first in America and in the Western Hemisphere
with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor Liderman
at two and two choices for a free informative booklet

(44:50):
and DVD.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
We're back, and we have Joseph on the line. So
how are you, Joseph?

Speaker 9 (44:58):
Okay, doctor, I'm hanging in there.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
What's your question?

Speaker 9 (45:04):
I just I just went to my urologists. I've been
going to him now for the past six months because
my PSA score was up to six and also my
LEAs and score is at six. And so I just
had the biopsy and it is coming up that I
do have cancer on one of the spots that they
did to the biopsy. I think it's like you're talking about,

(45:25):
they do the sixth or the twelve different grafts. Okay,
So the question, Yeah, I'm looking to see exactly the
procedure that you're speaking about.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Well, it's not a one minute answer, so usually when
a person asked that, it's about a one hour answer.
And you should come in and we should talk about
all the options. Some people choose no treatment, some people
choose surgery. There's various forms of treatment. Not all treatment
is the same, not all surgeries. The same. Not all
radiations the same, not all consultations are the same, So

(45:58):
there's lots of options with you have ASA six, Glease
and six. If you came here and you had treatment
with us, you'd have about a ninety five percent chance
of being cancer free. So it's a very successful group.
So I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. Most
likely you'll live a long time, and if you came here,
you'd probably have a high quality of life. You'd most
likely keep your sexual life and urinary life and keep

(46:20):
your body intact, and most likely the cancer would go
away and stay away. Okay, all right, if you want,
we can if you call us, call our office at
two and two Choices, we'll send you a package. But
it's always worthwhile to sit down and talk. We've talked
about an hour or so and answer all your questions
and examine you. And that's really the best way. So

(46:42):
i'd encourage you if you wish to make a date,
and if you wish, you can call our office, will
send you a package, and if you wish, you can
also check our website. We have videos to send you,
booklets to send you, lots of information available for you. Okay,
thank great, God, pleasure, don't lose you'll probably be a okay,
and we look forward to meeting with you if you wish.

Speaker 9 (47:04):
Thank you doctor. And oh, just one other quick questions.
I have insurance.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Can we take that? And we take most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid,
So worry about yourself and we'll worry about the insurance.

Speaker 9 (47:16):
Okay, Okay, that sounds great. Okay, doctor, Thank you so
much for your time.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Thank you, and God bless you call anytime.

Speaker 9 (47:22):
Thank you go bless you too. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Thank you. I'll talk about a woman really young, thirty
two years old with breast cancer. So this is a
black woman and there is more breast cancer in the
black community. Also. She came with her mother and her fiance.
She came from Georgia. She can know her care in Georgia.
She was found to have a grade three cancer in
the breast and exxilla. She had scans which showed cancer

(47:48):
and her spine. She had a pet scan. She has
cancer NOLA in the spine, but in the sternum. She
came here with severe pain in the sternum. She went
to the emergency room in Dunwoody, Georgia. If you know
where that is found to have cancer in the sternum
and deliver piaps. She showed grade three cancer. It was
sensitive to estrogen and progesterone. Peerage has stage for cancer.

(48:14):
She was diagnosed almost a year ago with cancer five
by five centimeter mass in the right breast. There was
a mess that was one half centimeter in the armpit.
She had a pet skin recently and everything's growing. She started,
and here's a key point, number one. The key point
is you can have cancer at any age. So if
you think you're thirty two and you're immune, while you're wrong.

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We've seen breast cancer and women as young as eighteen.
So just because your age is young or old or medium,
you can have cancer. This is another case no family history.
She had zero family history. She's young, and yet she
has stage for cancer. Another point, she started on herbs

(48:56):
and vitamins and supplements and enemas and and vitamin C,
and none of it worked. In fact, the cancer even
doubled and tripled. Those things don't work. If someone's trying
to sell your vitamin C and herbs and so on,
I would suggest you're up the wrong alley. So she

(49:16):
tried that. She had a year, the cancer was getting worse,
the pain was getting worse. She came to me from
Georgia wanting treatment to get rid of the pain and
to try to get her situation under control. And this
is the work we do. Patients come from around the world.
She didn't have any insurance. We also helped her financially,
so we did so much. We got her scanned up

(49:38):
and staged up. We got approvals for her even though
she had no insurance and no coverage. So when I
examined her, she had a huge swollen right breast. It
looked like inflammatory breast cancer, which is one of the
most severe. When the whole breast looked inflamed. The breast
measured about sixteen centimeters, so a huge mass, and there
are multiple nodules under the skin. Huge mass in the

(50:01):
breast and multiple nodules. Everything was growing. She was taking
her herbs and vitamins and all that stuff was useless
and always as useless. So please don't don't waste your time.
Of course, wish that she'd come a year ago when
it was first diagnosed, but we're doing the best we
can here. So she has stage four cancer with cancer

(50:22):
growing from the breast into the sternum and elsewhere causing
terrible pain and suffering. We got her coverage, we're treating
her already within a few days, she's already better, with
less pain and less suffering. And this is the work
we do. So lots of things to learn from this case.
That you're never too young or to hold to have cancer,
that taking concoctions and vitamins nerves just don't help anybody

(50:47):
except the person who's selling that stuff. And that's sad.
That's another whole story, sad. And she's here with her
mother and fiance from Georgia. She goes to university in Georgia,
and she's here to get better, and she's already better
with the cancer receding and the pain going away. And
this is the work that we do, and we see
patients from around the world. People come here from around

(51:10):
the world because they want a chance to get better
and learn all the options and want to be treated
in a different way. And she heard from other patients
treated here, and that's why she's here. This is the
work that we do every day at thirteen eighty for Broadway.
Broadway in thirty eighth Street in the heart of New
York City and we just had a caller, Joseph called

(51:32):
about his PSA six, gleas and six. And here we
have another man. We have a man who's from Haiti.
He came in married with four children, with the same
numbers gleason six, PSA six. He had a biops he
performed elsewhere. He had colonoscopy showed a poll up. He
has glaucoma. He had a high PSA. He was had
no medications, had no allergies, had no operations, no family history.

(51:56):
He's married, as for children, and an exam. He has
a prostate that's enlarged. He has STAHT one see prostate cancer,
gleas and six PSA six and he was treated here
and this PSA is now in remission too. He's doing well.
He has no aches, pains, fevers, chills. This is the

(52:17):
work that we do every day. At thirteen eighty for Broadway,
I'll talk about a fifteen year old young woman with
metastatic neuroblastoma. She and her family were just upset about
being treated a super duper place where they seemingarly wanted
to do the most radical surgeries and chemos and treatment

(52:38):
and it wasn't working. And for a couple of years,
the family just gave up on everything, and then finally
with a growing mass in the chest, she came here
and chose to be treated to those masses of neuroblastoma
in the chest, and we treated her. And now she's
come for follow up which chose. Those masses have receded.
She's in remission with no side effects. He's doing great.

(53:01):
She's a cheerleader. This is the work that we do
every day. At thirteen eighty for Broadway Broadway in thirty
eighth Street in the heart of New York City, were
talking about a man who was sixty six years old.
He's a man, he's widowed. He came with his family member.
He had a prostate cancer. He was diagnosed with a

(53:22):
PSA of twenty one. He had surgery scheduled. He had
an MRI planned and he has urgency. When a urinates,
he has no leakage, but his urgency, and he wanted
to be treated. He had a Gleason eight cancer and
his surgeon put him on the line for radical surgery
with gleasonate PSA twenty one and well, he was scheduled

(53:45):
for surgery the next day. I just saw him a
few days ago. He was scheduled for surgery the next day,
and lucky for him, he canceled the surgery. Surgery for
him would have been devastating. He has a gleasonate cancer
PSA twenty one. Most likely I would say ninety percent
chance the tumor would have come back or would have

(54:05):
been inoperable. He probably would have left inoperable. He would
have left inoperable, unsuccessfully operated on with poor sexual and
urinary control. Luckily he canceled his surgery. People can cancel
the surgery up to the minute the knife is in
your body. So this man was lucky he came to me.
We talked about other options, better options to try to
get him in remission without radical surgery and all the

(54:26):
complications of surgery for pros to cancer. Others give us
a call at two and two choices two and two
two four six forty two thirty seven this doctor Liederman,
God bless you and see you soon two and two choices.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
Thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with
doctor Giliderman and myself. If you have questions before next
week's show or want a free informative booklet DVD, just
contact doctor Liederman at two on two choices. That's two
one two two four six four to two three seven.
That's two one two two four six four two three seven.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
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outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.
Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,
First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liderman hits your
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of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers

(55:41):
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chance for you. Meet doctor Liderman to hit the cancer.
He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices to one two choices to
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thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to hit your cancer.
Called two one two choices, two one two choices.

Speaker 11 (56:11):
Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 3 (56:15):
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Speaker 4 (56:16):
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Speaker 11 (56:19):
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dont means today? To want to choices is a much
bad way too. Want two choices, Conductor, THEA don means today,

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Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 7 (56:43):
That there can be.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
A bad way?

Speaker 11 (56:47):
Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 7 (56:52):
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Speaker 11 (56:53):
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Speaker 11 (56:59):
Bad way too, want two joy says conductor.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Leader men today, Doctor Liederman Cancer Treatment, thirteen eighty four, Broadway.

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