1PM Dr. Lederman Discusses Various Treatments for Cancer

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's Doctor Leaderman with Carrie Stubbs, who sings and writes
about his cancer treatment.

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Call Doctor Leaderman two and two choices. Welcome everybody.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, MD,
New York's only Harvard trained triple Board certified radiation oncologist
who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world
renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course
answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

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Studios in the heart of New York City, and now
please welcome doctor Leaderman.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Thank you Rob, thank you no, and thank you for
tuning in today and every day. Every day we learn
through other patients. So it's a great way to learn,
just like a medical school. That's how AT learns learns
from patience. What her patients. Patience are you and me
and our neighbors are loved ones. That's patients. Spatience are
someone who comes to a doctor. That's a patient doesn't

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have to be sick, just someone that sees a doctor.
So every day we see patients. Some have cancer, some
want to know if they have cancer, someonet to know
how to best be treated for cancer, and one someone
questions answered. So this is who comes to us. I'm
a board certified doctor. I'll introduce myself in a few minutes,
but I want to jump right in and talk about patients.
And these are all people I've seen in the last

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few days. I'll talk about a seventy three year old woman.
She had cervix cancer. She's a marriage, has five children.
She came with her husband. She has high blood pressure.
She was diagnosed with cervix cancer in the past. She
had had surgery to decline. She was told it was impossible.
She was seen in one of the super duper hospitals

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in the neighboring state. She had chemotherapy and radiation, and
then she had radiation to the vagina. She was told
she was doing great, but a pet scan showed the
cancer traveled in the pelvis, so right where they treated
her it traveled and she had no pain, no bleedings.
Here's another case. Number one, she had radiation and chemo.
She was told surgery is not possible. She had radiation elsewhere.

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She had weeks and weeks of treatment and it didn't work.
The cancer came back. Number one. Number two she had
a recurrence of the cancer, but she didn't feel anything.
So it's another old tale. I feel great, I don't
have cancer. Well, no, you can have cancer even if
you feel great. She had had cancer. She was treated,
The cancer came back, but she had no new symptoms.

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That's why it's so important to get followed up. She
had a PET scan. She had metastatic cancer. She was
told by her doctors at this super pooper place, she
can't have more radiation. She already had radiation. She was
told she had recurrent cancer stage four and she has
to get chemotherapy for the rest of her life, the

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rest of her life. And that's what happens to so
many people. They're told, oh, you have cancer, it's traveled,
You're gonna need chemo for the rest of your life. Well,
it's great for the drug companies, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals and others.
Why because most chemotherapy is one hundred to two hundred
thousand dollars a year, so you can imagine it's big business,

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big business. She had high blood pressure, she was on
multiple medications. She had had the radiation at a super
duper place. She had a brother with cancer but unknown type.
She worked in the hotel industries. She was born in Jamaica.
She came with her husband. Her exam was normal, Everything
was normal, except the cancer came back. Was detected by petscan.
What is a pet scan? Petscan is a radiation test

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where radioactive sugar is actually put into the body through
an injection. Some people falsely believe, oh, sugar feeds cancer.
Well it's not true. You can have an ice cream
every day and never have cancer. You can have ice
cream whatever, it's not feeding cancer. It's a tail. It's
not true. Just like Oh, you had radiation once, she
can't have it again. That's what she was told. She

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was told, Oh, you have to have chemo for the
rest of your life one hundred to two hundred thousand
dollars a year, and it's toxic. And what is chemo.
It's kind of poison. It's designed to poison growing cells. Well,
the parts of your body are grown a lot, like
the bone, marrow and the intestine and other areas. A
lot of people have side effects from low blood count.
I see, just saw a patient the other day, play

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the count, white count, red blood count. All collapsed with chemotherapy, toxic,
super toxic, and it didn't kill the cancer. It hurt
the body, but it didn't hurt the cancer. So this
is the woman. She refused, and she said, I'm going
to find something better. She was offered to get carboplatinum
taxo of asta elasta. She declined everything for a recurrent cancer.

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She came here, We saw the pet scan, We offered
a biopsy to put a little needle right in that
lymphanode to prove the recurrence. And then she was treated
with and she chose after being informed all the options.
We talked about, all the options, surgery, chemo, immunotherapy, various
forms of radiation. Remember she had had standard radiation at
a big super place. Didn't work. She came here, so

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old tail one you can feel something when you have cancer.
No old tail two. You had radiation one, she can't
have it again. Not true. That's why one doctor, one doctor,
in all of the Western hemisphere, from the North Pole
to the South Pole, one doctor is first to bring
radiosurgery to you. Radiosurgery. What is it? Well, it's not surgery.

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Radio surgery is a misnomer. It's not really surgery. It's
supposed to be a pinpoint treatment beam that acts as
if it's surgery. That was the idea of the name
misnomer radiosurgery. So this woman came to us five years
ago with recurrent cervix cancer. Remember it, she had standard radiation.
It failed. After a few months, cancer came back in

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the nodes, we toreod the nodes and now five years later,
cancer free with no surgery, no cutting, no bleeding, no chemo, nomeotherapy,
cancer free. And why are we talking about her today?
Because we follow up our patients, some of our patients,
I mean almost all the patient day. Well, how do
you follow me? How do I know? I tell them.
We do physical exams, we do blood tests, we do

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cancer mark er, we do imaging tests to prove to
you that the cancer is gone. And she's been coming
for five years, cancer free, doing great. We re treated
her with pinpoint treatment. Her doctors at Super Duper General
told her it's not possible. Well, now is it possible?
But we do it every day and we have probably

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the leading expert in retreatment here, doctor Liederman, Board certified,
Triple board certified at radioster to New York, where we
accept most insurances, Medicare and Medicaid. We're super conveniently located.
She came here from a neighboring state. She was seventy
three years old. Why did she come here because she
wanted a chance at better treatment. She wanted to learn
about all the options which weren't told to her elsewhere.

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Was she benefited by coming. Yes, she's been cancer free
for five years to this day. The other treatment didn't
work for months. This treatment five years later, cancer free
with no chemo, no cutting, no bleeding, no minotherapy, no
hospital stays, no anesthesia. This is the work we do.
And we have lots of information to send you. We
have booklets, DVDs, we have radio programs to describe exactly

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what we do. So if you're told, oh, it's not possible,
they said, don't waste your time seeing Leaderman. As soon
as someone says don't waste your time, sing doctor Liederman,
the best thing you do is called two and two choices,
two and two two four six forty two thirty seven.
That's what she did and five years later, still cancer free,
no sign of the cancer, doing great, happy, doing great, healthy,

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doing all the things she wants to do to live
her life. And we talk about a man I treated
ten years ago. This is a man sixty seven years old, single.
He was seen by urologists. He had a PSA that
was elevated four point five nine. He had an MRIs suspicious.
He had a biopsy showing Gleason seven cancer in multiple areas,
so he had a higher risk cancer because his gleason

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was seven. He was waking up twice a night to urinate.
His weight was one seventy six feet tall. His bob
movements were fine. He's on medicines for cholesterol and blood pressure.
He had had eye surgery age seven. He was adopted.
He knew nothing about his family history. And I should
tell you, if you have a one family member with

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prostate cancer, and you have prostate cancer, you have a
seventy two percent higher chance of dying. So it's so
important to get checked up. This man didn't have any
family history because he was adopted, but he had high PSA.
He had an enlarged prostate. I examined him ten years
ago and he was treated here ten years and now
his PSA is zero and he comes to me on

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a regular basis. He's cancer free, doing great, sex, life
is great, Urinary life is great, and life is great.
He's fully intact with no side effects from the treatment,
very happy, short course of out patient therapy, with no hospitals,
no cutting. This is the work that we do every day,
with nine thousand men treated with prostate cancer, probably more

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than any other physician around. This is the work that
we do every day and we have lots of information
to send you booklet Stevd's information, but it's always best
to meet in person if you have a question, if
you don't know what your PSA is, make it a
point to come in two and two choices, make a date.
We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. It might save your life.

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Like this man treated ten years ago. Now his PSA
is zero with an excellent, excellent quality of life. I'll
talk about another man, seventy nine years old, married with
three children, history of atrofibrillation, thower disease, positive family history.
His father had metastatic stage four prostate cancer, which is

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bad news. Like I said before, one family member with
prostate cancer increases your chance of dying of prostate cancer
by seventy two percent. He was on twenty two supplements
and vitamins. Another point, So many people comment say which
supplements and vitamins should I be taken? I think he should.
Most people should be taken none, because there's almost no

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data to show any benefit. Of course, people are selling
them like it's a garden of youth. It's not a
garden of youth. It's not a fountain of youth. It's
just a way of making money off of vulnerable people
who want to talk about it, make a dating come in.
He was on twenty two vitamins and supplements. He had
a positive family history. He had a Gleason nine cancer

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gleas and nine, one of the most aggressive cancers that exist.
His PSA had jumped up from one to five, so
quintupled in a short period of time. He had five
positive cores, including gleas and nine. He was yurnitting twice
a night. He was offered medicine for the year and
he didn't want that. He's an ex smoker. His way.

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It was one ninety five over the height of six
foot three. He's on multiple medications for his heart disease,
on Eloquist, blood thinner, dejoxin, thyroid medicines, nitroglycerin, and all
these twenty two supplements useless. He came to me, examined him.
He had a sulcus of sulcus rock hard prostate Gleason nine.

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Now it's been five years, his PSA is zero and
he's doing great. He was treated here out patient therapy
for prostate cancer Gleason nine. Treated with no chemo, no cutting,
no surgery, outpatient therapy Gleason nine. And we know with
surgery with radical surgery for Gleason nine, success rates about
twenty percent. And most people who have radical surgery, most

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men who have radical surgery for prostate cancer, most men
about ninety seven ninety eight percent lose erections. About eighty
percent lose control of the urine shortening of the penis.
Here there was no surgery, so there was none of that.
He's sexually active. He carries on a normal activity. He's functional.
I've seen him on the streets with his grandchild, and

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I've seen him with his wife and his children and
grandchild on the streets of New York, buying him ice
cream and buying him toys. Just recently. He's fully active,
living the life. If you look at him, he says
he's seventy nine, but he looks like he's fifty nine,
doing great with a Gleason nine avoided radical surgery. This

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is the work we do at Radio Sturdy, New York,
high quality of Life. This is what we do every day.
My name's doctor Liederman, cancer doctor. Here for you, two
and two choices. We'll be right back.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery
didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their
caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing
innovative cancer care for decades. When the next cancer drug
is not as promised, when surgery was to fail to pass,

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we may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options.
We treat new and recurrent cancers, small or large, most
anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, radiation or
surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices
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eighth and Broadway. Most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted, Harvard trained,

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and two choices for innovative cancer treatment. Best is to
meet doctor Liederman in person. Call two and two choices
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Speaker 6 (15:34):
It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
You treated me. I had basil cell onto my cheek.
A buddy of mine went through the same thing that
looked like they went out of him with a melon baller.
This was on my face. I don't want any caring.
I think I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep
it that way.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
So you are hats and we're going to Olympics. Usually
in America there's three million skin cancers a year. Ninety
nine percent of people are let down the Primrose path
to have radic homs surgery for their skin cancer. Why
are you different.

Speaker 8 (16:01):
From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't
need to get radical deforming. Come and see what we
could do. I have a lot of trust in what
I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were
very simple.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
If Miss America comes up to right now, what would
she think about the results of your skin.

Speaker 8 (16:15):
She would be able to keep her hands off. There
is zero indication it was ever there. You know, I
don't know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks,
doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path.
Doctor Leederman did the absolute perfect thing. That's where you
should do.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Any regrets, not at all, called doctor Liederman A two
and two choices thirteen and eighty four Broadway. Most insurances, Medicare,
Medicaid accepted.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liderman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City were just a
few steps from the radio surgery in New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

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and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liederman at two and two Choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
We're back. I want to talk about a gentleman sixty
three years old born in Jamaica with prostate cancer. This
man had a T three Gleason six cancer PSA, also
fast fast velocitya PSA's blood test prosthetic specific enigen PSA
went from six to twelve member normals considered four. But
with four your chance of having prostate cancers twenty five percent.

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By twelve, it's more than thirty five percent. He had
had biopsy showing Gleason six cancer, says PSA was going up,
up up. He's a black man. He's from Jamaica. We
know Jamaican and Caribbean have the most cancer. I met
with the Jamaican ambassador recently. He is married, he has
two children. He has a positive family history. His brother

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had prostate cancer. His father had prostate cancer. And like
we just said a couple of minutes ago, if you
have one relative, your chance of dying is seventy two
percent higher. This is a man high risk situation. He
had a high PSA. His PSA is doubled in a
short period of time. He had had no cat scan,
no bone scan. He had had an MRI elsewhere. He

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had noctoria occasionally daytime. Your nature was okay. He used
to work overnight. His weight is one eighty. I examined him.
He had a massive cancer rock hard sulcus. It was
a T three and his PSA had doubled gleas in six.
Cancer treated six and a half years ago. He is

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now cancer free. So he had lots of negatives. He
had two family members with prostate cancer. He was a
black man increased risk one and six black men have
prostate cancer or develop it. One in twenty three die
of it. He had two family members rapid PSA velocity,
big prostate treated here all out patient with our unique treatment,

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really in the stereotyptic frame. This is the work we do.
And now his PSA is zero. He's doing great, his
quality of life is great. This is the work we
do every day. At thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway, in
thirty eighth Street, in the heart of New York City.
It was about an eighty nine year old woman. It's
an older woman, she's widdled with no children. She came

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with her friend. She had blood in the urine. She
had a mass. On her cat scan she was had
of a mass three and a half centimeters in the bladder.
Looked inside the bladder. She was trying to have a cancer.
No one staged her up. She was seeing that elsewhere
in general, no one staged her up. Well, we staged
her up. We got an MRI, we got a pet scan.
We found that she had had metastatic cancer, had already

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traveled to the lumbar spine. So she had stage for cancer. Wow.
Elsewhere they looked inside, I guess they thought, oh, she's
eighty nine age discrimination here. No, we offered her all
the options. She was adamant. She was most adamant about
being treated and we made a stereotactic frame. We computerized
her body. She wanted the spine to be treated first

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and a few quick trees. This is the work we do,
and then we move on to the bladder. This is
work we do. She just was adamant against surgery, adamant
against chemo, wanted our treatment only, and treatment went with
no symptoms, no side effects. This is the work that
we do every day for bladder cancer. A lot of
people come to us for bladder cancer. The usual treatment,

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sad to say, is removing the bladder, and the fusual
doctor who diagnoses bladder cancer urologist urologists are surgeons. So
it seems like to me the urologists usually don't tell
people all the options about bladder cancer treatment and people
have their bladder removed. In my experience, they're really upset,

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but they were never told about all the options. People
like to hear all the options. People like to be
treated fairly and to be educated. And this is the
work that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
There's no obligation. You can learn, you can come over,
you can spend some time. We can make some suggestions
to you if you wish whatever you want. This one
was just adamant that she did not want surgery, didn't

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want chemo, but she wanted her bladder and her spine
treated for stage four bladder cancer that travel to the spine.
This is the work we do. And here's another man,
another surgical question. This is a forty eight year old man.
He's married with three children. He came with his wife.
He has high blood pressure, diabetes, legs swelling. His PSA

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was seventeen gleason seven cancer and sad to say, he
went underwent robotic surgery for his prostate cancer the super
Pooper place. He was told, oh, your only option is surgery.
You have to have surgery. Well, he had a PSA
seven gleas and seven cancer. He had a father who
had prostate cancer. So again he has a seventy seventy

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two percent higher chance of dying of his prostate cancer.
And still even with his high risk factors PSA seventeen
in glease and seven, his doctors knew that they most
likely wouldn't cure him. They took him to surgery. He
had extra capsule or extent, and he had a positive
lymph node. The cancer had already traveled. There was no

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testing to look at the lymph nodes, none at all
at surgery. He's only forty eight years old. He lost
his erections after surgery, leaked yeurine. He still leaks year
and he's still without directions. He came to me after
the surgery, why because he had positive margins and his
PSA was going up. His PSA never went down to

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zero and then started rising. He started rising. So listen
to the radio show, and we often talk about that
if you've had surgery for prostate cancer and your PSA
is not zero point zero, it's time to call doctor Liederman.
So he called doctor Liederman. This is five years ago

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with a rising recurrent prostate cancer with extra capsule extent
margins and positive lymph nodes and positive family history. And
he came here for a second chance, and lucky for
him he came, and lucky for him, he chose a treatment,
and lucky for him, his PSA is now zero point zero.

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We got his PSA down to zero when radical surgery couldn't.
Radical surgery left positive margins. What is a positive margin.
It means when the surgeon cuts, they cut on the
wrong side of the cancer. So cancer is left in
the body, and also there were lymph nodes involved, so
he had a high risk situation. Surgery really didn't help

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him in my view, had hurt him because at age
forty eight, it took away his sex life, took away
his gurinary control, and came here five years ago and
now is PSA zero in remission, doing great, living the life.
This is the work we do. And of course he's
upset about having surgery, but he's happy that he came

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here and happy as PSA zero zero and happy he's
doing well. And this is what we try to do
to give a second chance whenever possible. That's why so
many people come here for a fresh second opinion. Where
we accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. We're super conveniently located
close to fifteen subway lines one, two, three, four, five, six, ACEE,

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n QRBDF seven S. This is the work we do.
We're also close to Penn Station, Grand centro Port Authority.
People come in by train, by bus, by subway and
all the whatever thousand New York City buses that travel
through Manhattan, so it's easy to get to us. This
is the work we do every day and for this

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man came to us at forty eight. Now five years later,
cancer free PSA is zero zero, zero zero. And we'll
talk about a man with a skin cancer. Is a
very compulsive man. He's a businessman, he's a lawyer. And
he had a basis of cancer on his left upper lip.
It was biopsy positive. He was sent for Moe's surgery.

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It had prior skin cancers on the arm, in the back.
What is Moe's mohs moe surgery was the kind of excavation,
but excavate his lip. This is a businessman, he's a lawyer.
His big responsibilities as a family and he doesn't want
to have a deformed lip and deformed ability to speak
and to be seen and to socialize and to have

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everyone looking at how what the heck did they do
to put his lip together? He didn't want that. And
most people who know better choose our treatment. Unfortunately, most dermatologists, sadnessay,
are surgeons, and they're all surgeons, but most don't tell
people about all the treatment options. Here we talk about
all the options. We're not afraid to. We have booklets,

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we have pictures, we have DVDs to show you, to
share with you. You don't have to be a patient to
get them. You can call us at two and two choices.
There's no charge. We'll send out a booklet today or
whenever you want. You can come to our office, and
many people do pick up information. He came to our office.
We saw his cancers on the left upper lip. We
offered all the options, surgery, plastic surgery, various forms of radiation.

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He chose. His short course of radiation has done very well.
His skin looks good, He looks good, he's ambutory, he's
fully inteched. He was able to work and carry on
his legal business and his family business without interruption. This
is the work that we do every day. We have
experience with thousands of skin cancers, basal cells and square missiles,

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Eyken Thomas, and even other skin cancers. This is the
work that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway,
where we accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid, Rhyme. Doctor Liederman,
Board certified, actually the only Harvard trained chiple Board certified
radiation doctor in New York, one of the few in
the world. Here for you, I'm such a Leaderman will

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write back.

Speaker 9 (27:01):
It's Johnny Bragg's talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago, I
came to doctor Leederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.
My stepfather died days after prostate surgery. My uncle never
recovered from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leiderman with
prostate cancer and high PSA. Doctor Leederman explained all options,

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shared his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Leederman twenty
years ago. Today, I trust doctor Leederman even more. My
prostate cancer is gone, my PSA is zero, my quality
of life is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too,
like me for over twenty years. Call doctor Leiderman for

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prostate cancer. Two one two choices. That's two on two choices,
thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Street in Manhattan.
Most insurance, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Leederman two and
two choices.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
It's doctor Leederman with Calvin West singing and writing about
his cancer treatment.

Speaker 10 (28:06):
I had cancer and my home was upsideca at the
radio surgery read tomorrow.

Speaker 11 (28:23):
Choices. I'm so glad, but let me do you want to.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
Thank dot good leader Man for the twices?

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Phone me and you.

Speaker 11 (28:38):
Helie to Katzer. It's my counting two O two three,
wells no mopag is read your grand daddy.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
Set you free?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Can't your treatment called doctor Leederman two and two choices,
two and two choices called doctor Liederman.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
Were just a few steps.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
From the radiosurgery in New York Cancer Treatment Center on
Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman, the leading cancer expert,
treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was the first in
New York with fractionated brain radio surgery, and he's the
first in America and in the Western Hemisphere with body
radio surgery. You can also call doctor Liederman at two
and two choices for a free informative booklet and DVD.

(29:28):
Hey doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
We're back. I want to talk about a seventy four
year old woman. She's whittled, she has one son. She's
been getting mammograms. She had an abnormal mammogram. She went
to one of the superpooper places. She had an MRI
mammogram ultrasound. She had a biopsy at one of the
super duper places, and they started her on chemo. The
tumor was twenty two by eleven x nine melimeters, twelve

(29:52):
centimeters from the nippo. She had had satellite lesion. She
had had prior mammograms which were negative. It was an
invasive of cancer as to receptor positive her positive. She
started chemotherapy, was poorly tolerated. She couldn't take the chemo,
and the hospital was throwing at her wish what happens

(30:12):
for many many patients with breast cancer. They planned chemo,
they planned surgery on her breast, They planned weeks of radiation,
and she just bailed out. She could not take the chemo.
She did not want more chemo. She didn't really want
any surgery either on her breast. And she came here
to learn about all the options, and she chose primary
breast radiation, that is radiation to the breast with no cutting,

(30:34):
no bleeding, no mestectomy, no lumpectomy, no hospitals, no operating rooms.
She regretted the chemos. She couldn't take it. She came here,
We saw her, we examined her, we got new imaging.
She had a two centimeter mass in the upper outer
quadrant of the left breast. The exilla was negative. We
staged her up, we got cancer markers, and then we

(30:57):
treated her three years ago. Three years ago she was
with no surgery. She never finished a chemo. She hated
the chemo, she hated the idea of surgery. She just
did not want anyone cutting on her breast or cutting
on her and she wanted a different kind of radiation.
And that's what she got here. And now three years later,
she's in remission. She's doing great. This is the work

(31:18):
that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway
Broadway in thirty eighth Street. We have booklets and DVDs
about breast cancer. Lots of women come here, lots of
women learn about all the options. This is what we
like to explain. All the options doesn't obligate you to anything.
You can go back and get more chemo and surgery
if you want. That's your choice. But most women who

(31:39):
learn about all the options like the idea and like
the success. This is the work that we do every
day at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street,
in the heart of New York City. We're talking about
a seventy year old man from Haiti. He has one daughter.
He was seen by his doctor. He's actually sent to
us by a doctor. We treated the doctor. The doctor

(32:00):
worked at another hospital. He did not want to cut
treatment at that hospital. The doctor came here. The doctor
then sent his patient here. He had a PSA of nine.
He had a glease in seven cancer. There was no
family history. There was none. We talked about several men
before with family histories. This man had no family history.
He was waking up once a night to yearnate. He

(32:20):
had no bleeding, no fevers, no chills, no pains. He
wait was one ninety three height his five foot nine.
He was taking vitamins, which we already talked about earlier.
He was separated. He was born in Haiti, works for
a school, and I examined him. He had a large
prostate and he was treated six years ago for prostate

(32:42):
cancer PSA seven gleas in seven PSA excuse me, PSA
nine gleason seven and is doing well. His PSA is
now zero, doing well, fully intact. This is the work
that we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
I always take a minute introduced myself. Number one, I

(33:02):
want to before I do that, tell you that we
are live on the radio from now until two o'clock.
And that means you can call us at one eight
hundred three two one zero seven ten. You can call
be comfortable, We won't interrogate you. You can ask your
questions one eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
One eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. You
can call us now ask your question. People say, oh,

(33:25):
doctor Leader, why don't you talk about x y Z. Well,
this is your chance to talk about X y Z
or whatever your question is. Call us now. And one
more thing. I wanted to introduce myself because so many
people give advice without knowing what their expertise is. I
was born and raised in Waterloo, IO. Went to public school,
University MD at twenty five. My wonderful brother Ted Leaderman,

(33:46):
Doctor Ted Liederman, also MD, real medical doctor MD at
twenty five and also doctor Ariel Leaderman MD at twenty
five three Doctor Liderman's all mds at twenty five. Arial
Leaderman is here answer doctor board certified. Worked at the
most famous places across the country from east to west coast.
Is here now seeing patients with new and recurrent cancers

(34:10):
and people who are suspicious about having cancer. He's loved
by his patients and their families and the staff, and
his meticulous and thoughtful and thirring and carrying and responsive,
super responsive and super meticulous, and patients are lucky to
have doctor Ariel Leaderman to be their cancer doctor. So
you can call even now two and two choices and

(34:32):
make an appointment if you want or get information if
you want two and two, two four, six, forty, two
thirty seven or whenever you want or never, whatever you want,
We're available for you. Many people come by our office.
We're in the heart of New York City, close to
so much transportation, subways, trains, buses, were close to Penn
Station and Grand Central and Port Authority in Times Square

(34:55):
and Macy's and Brian Park, so that there's more than
a half a million people in our newighborhood every day.
So if you want to come by, or have a
friend who probably comes to their neighborhood, please do so.
Pick up a package of information for the picker upper
and for loved ones or neighbor or for that person
down the street who you know is suffering. Even if
you're in a restaurant or grocery store. You hear someone

(35:17):
talk about cancer, you may want to pat them on
the back and say, hey, you may want to get
a fresh second opinion about doctor Leedham. And I heard
so and so, and then tell them them things that
you've learned by listening to the show. Radio listeners save lives.
And I know that because I see patients every day.
I know that radio listeners like you can save lives

(35:39):
by learning and passing on this information. Whether it's about
prostate cancer when surgery doesn't work, or the when was
cervix cancer at radiation she was told she couldn't have
more radiation. Now she had radio surgery years ago, is
cancer free? Or the man that had radical surgery surgery
didn't help them, they left cancer behind. We treated them
now as PSA zeros second chance. So there's lots of

(36:02):
interesting information available that we give to you every day.
Now we talk about a woman who's seventy four from
Dominican Republic. She's six children. She came with her family.
She was found to have breast cancer. She came to
me seven years ago. Seven years ago she was seen
she had had a biopsy showed breast cancer. She just
did not want chemo, she did not want any other treatment.

(36:25):
And we treated her seven years ago for a breast
cancer and his cancer free. She had repeat biopsy. She
just came to me recently. Radiologists saw something in the breast.
They did a biopsy negative. Seven years cancer free, no surgery,
no cutting, no chemo, only with our methol treatment and
now cancer free proven by a repeat biopsy. She had

(36:46):
a tiny little needle in the breast. When a radiologist
questioned another spot or a different spot. Cancer free, no
evidence of cancer. And this is the work that we
do every day at thirty eighty four Broadway Broadway in
thirty eighth Street, in the heart of New York City.
And I want to talk about a man who came
from came from Jamaica, black man. We talk about it

(37:09):
because again the high risk factor. One in six black
men with prostate cancer. One twenty three dying of prostact cancer.
He had two brothers treated here and now he came
just for a checkup. He just came for a checkup.
A couple of days ago. He had testicular pain. He
was being seen at a super duper place. He had
noctoria four times a night. He had urgency of your nation.

(37:32):
He had no leakage, but he has pain, especially in
the testicles. And he came here, and he came here.
We checked his bladder well, his bladder wasn't working. The
normal bladder holds two or three hundred CC's when you urinate,
all comes out with him. He had one hundred and
eighty ce seeds of urine in the bladder when he urinated,
one hundred and twenty state in the bladder, two thirds

(37:54):
of his urine state in the bladder. We got an MRI.
MRI showed a big mass in the process state. He
had a py red five seminole vesicles were involved, nerves
were involved. He had a mass three point five centimeters.
So lucky he came. He came for checkup. So this
is a perfect example who comes for checkup. He came
for a checkup and voolla. We found high PSA. We

(38:19):
found a mass in the prostate, had already left the
prostate going into the nerves and seminal vesicles. And this
is the work that we do every day. The next
step is to get a biopsy, which we're arranging, and
then scans for the rest of his body. To make
sure the cancer hasn't traveled, but ninety percent chance he
has cancer. Has two brothers treated here with fancy treatment,

(38:41):
non invasive treatment for his prostate cancer, and now he
wants that biopsy. He wants to be treated before the
cancer travels. It's a good reason for every man. He
came to us at age sixty three for the first time,
was checked and had poor bladder function. Had a big
mess in the prostate, seminal vesicles involved, nerves involved. This

(39:04):
is the work we do and you are welcome as
well if you wish. Another man sixty years old from
Puerto Rico, married with one child. His PSA was six
point eighty six. He was on pro scar, which can
artificially lower PSA. He had frequent urination. He was urinating
three times a night. He had been on pro scar
for years. He had positive biopsies gleas and six cancer.

(39:28):
Urinated three times a night. His weight was one fifty
nine two years before was one seventy. He came to
us his prostate was nodular, so we had an advanced
T two prostate cancer. He was treated five plus years ago.
His PSA is now zero and he is very happy, happy,
with high success, happy with his success. And this is

(39:52):
the work that we do every day at thirteen eighty
four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street, in the heart
of New York City. I want to talk about a
woman who came fifty five years old, born in New
York City. She's single, she has three children. At fifty five,
she's already had a stroke and high blood pressure and asthma.
She's a smoker, and she had a mass in the breast.

(40:13):
She had a mammogram sharing a nine centimeter mass about
the size of a fist in her right breast, had ultrasounds.
She was seen at one of the super duper hospitals
in New York City. We called that hospital for records.
She had an inversion of the Nippo. She had some
deformity of the shape. Her weight was one sixty two,

(40:33):
height was four foot eleven. She had a family history.
Her mother had messed ectomy for cancer. She did not
want messed ectomy. An examiner she had a large mass
in the upper outer quadront of the breast. She had
palpable lymph nodes up to two centimeters. She had a
huge mass. Huge lymph nodes came to us years ago

(40:55):
treated only with our treatment, no chemo, no surgery. Elsewhere
they want to do a mestectomy because she had a
large mass in the breast and the lymph nodes here.
She just did not want that. She did not want chemo,
She did not want surgery. She wanted radiation and was
treated and is now cancer free. In fact, she had

(41:16):
a biopsy this month and biopsy of the breast to
prove that there was no cancer left in any suspicious
part of the breast. So her mammograms are okay, her
biopsy's okay. She's okay and received no other treatment. This
is the work that we do every day. At thirteen

(41:36):
eighty for Broadway, I was talking about a man who's
born in New York City, sixty five year old man.
He single. He says he had He walked in the door.
He says, I have BPH all my life. BPH. What
is BPH? Benign prostatic hypertephy It means benign. He told me,
walked to the door. He said, I have benign prostatic hyperturvy.
That's what he came in. He says he has increased

(41:57):
frequency of urination. He told me he wakes up three
times night to urinate. He said in the daytime, he
wakes up every fifteen minutes and even has some blood
in the urine. And he says he has PPH. A
person does not know if they have cancer or not.
He either, there's no way he would know if he
has BPH or not. So he came here. He came

(42:19):
here for a checkup. I examined him. His prostate was
rock hard sulkers a huge, huge mass, most likely cancer.
His urination was lousy. We did a test on his urine.
A normal bladder holds about two or three hundred ccs.
His bladder was holding four hundred and fifty and after
he urinated, most of the urine three hundred ccs stays

(42:41):
in the bladder, so he's not able to empty the bladder.
And his PSA was twelve. So it's highly likely he
has cancer with a rock hard prostate and a high
PSA and his bladder's not working. And he came in
the door saying he had benign prostatic ipertrophy. I don't
think so. He just came a couple days ago. We're

(43:01):
ranging a biopsy for him, or ranging an MRI of
the prostate for him, and other proper tests. This is
the work we do so you don't have to know
what you have. If you have a question or symptoms,
or you just want to have a checkup. If you
feel perfectly fine, you're welcome to come in for a checkup.
You don't need an excuse. You don't need an excuse
to come in the door to get a checkup, and

(43:22):
many people do. For this man, it's probably saved his
life because he's been going around telling everyone has benign prostatic.
Ye purtefhe No, he does not have benign prostatic. I purtefy.
He most likely has prostate cancer. My name's doctor Liederman.
We'll be right back.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm
Johnny Bragg's. The number two for my stepfather who died
of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much
after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since
doctor lead Himan's successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The
number zero, which is my PSA zero after doctor lead

(43:58):
him In's successful prostate cancer treatment. What every man wants?
The numbers one, two, three, four important for every man
with prostate cancer. One getting the most successful treatment, two
avoiding radical robotic surgery, three, keeping sexual function, four maintaining
urinary control. Call my doctor Liderman two and two choices,

(44:19):
two and two choices to consider his prostate cancer treatment
for you most insurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four
Broadway at thirty eighth Call two and two choices for
prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor Liederman two one two choices.
I'm glad I did. You'll be number one with doctor Lederman.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
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Christmas Eve, not informing even the President returned an ambulance
with pain absess bow obstruction. Secret turned disaster. Sadly believed
is urologists. Like many with prostate cancer, radical prostate surgery
has many complications, leakage, impotence, shortening, inferior results, death. Thousands

(45:02):
come to doctor Liederman to learn all prostate cancer options
from New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation
on collegist. Defense chief sadly believed Pie and Sky promises.
Another reason to meet doctor Liederman about highly effective prostate
cancer treatment avoiding radical surgery. Best is to meet doctor Liederman.
Call doctor Liederman two and two choices. Two and two

(45:25):
choices thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Most insurances, Medicare,
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Speaker 5 (45:38):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R
Studios in the hearts of New York City. Were just
a few steps from the radio surgery in New York
Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(45:58):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liederman at two and two choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
We're back. We'll talk about a sixty one year old man.
He's an NFL football coach, very famous football coach. He
came for evaluation of a biopsy proven prostate cancer glease
in seven more advanced PSA seven point nine. Catscan was negative.
Boneskin was negative. He had a high PSA scene by
his primary doctor at a urologist. He had a biops.
He had a Gleason seven and eight cores Gleason six

(46:34):
and seven cores. He was waking up three times a
night to yearinate. He did not want any medicines for that.
He had no pain, no bleeding, hit in a large prostate.
He had a family history, no prostate cancer history. PSA
was enlarged, not huge, not nodular, but he had a
Gleason seven cancer. He knew that with surgery for Gleason

(46:54):
seven success rate in the best hands in America is
about forty six percent and with surgery most likely to
be losing quality of life issues like sexual life and
urinary control and the length of his organ and he
didn't want that. He came to us eight years ago
with Gleason seven cancer, fully active. He now has a
PSA of zero with our treatment only, no surgery, no cutting,

(47:18):
and prominent position, prominent life football coach NFL, doing great,
living the life and carrying on with all his normal function.
Another man with a Gleason nine cancer came to us
also seven years ago with four children. He worked in
a hospital, one of the big hospitals in New York City.

(47:40):
He was sound of a Gleason nine cancer, one of
the most aggressive cancers. His PSA was high. PSA was eight.
He had cat skin and bone skin. We asked for
better testing for him. He had had a biopsy before,
he had had no treatment on exam. He had an
enlarged prostate Gleason nine stage t S and he chose

(48:01):
our treatment so many years ago, seven eight years ago
and is now cancer free. Also as PSA is zero,
His quality of life is good. He has good urinary control.
This is the work that we do every day at
thirteen eighty four Broadway. My name is doctor Liederman. I
want to talk about a woman who's ninety eight years old.
So here's a woman brought. She has a daughter living

(48:24):
in the Riviera in France. She lives in can On
the Riviera. It's a beautiful city and the Mediterranean, the
south of France, if you've ever been there. And her
mother's got multiple skin cancers. She came with skin cancers
on the face, the leg, the foot. She'd had surgery
and she was just fed up with radical surgeries. She

(48:44):
was ninety eight. Her mother, she's active in Spry. She
lives beautiful home on the Upper east Side. Her daughter
lives the south of France and the Riviera. She had
a squamous carcinoma on the right tempo. Surgeons wanted to
do radical Well, first of all, there's not much skin
there non but tuo. She didn't want to be deformed there.
She was tired of surgery for skin cancers. Many people

(49:07):
with skin cancers have more than one skin cancer because
what's the risk, Well, it's their skin type and sun
exposure most commonly. So this woman had multiple skin cancers.
She's ninety eight, she's living the life. She's going out,
she's eating in restaurants, has a beautiful social life. Her
daughter flies in from her daughter flies in from France

(49:28):
just for her medical appointments. And she came to me
two and a half years ago and well, she did
not want surgery. We talked about all the options and
she came for a few quick treatments, pinpoint precise treatments,
our specialty special doses, which we pioneered over decades of
work treating thousands of people with skin cancer. And she

(49:49):
was treated to that area the big cancer on her
tempo right tempo and is now cancer free. Her daughter
flew in from France just for the appointment for the
follow up. So we love the patients and families who
take care of each other. It's really a sign of
love and affection, and it's the ultimate. And it's a
lot better than a two minute phone call from a

(50:11):
family member who just doesn't seem to have time or
interest for her parent. And thank God for Moses who
gave us the Ten Commandments, which said, honor thy mother
and thy father. And this daughter certainly honors her mother
by coming for every medical appointment, even though it's four

(50:32):
thousand miles away. And I want to talk about a
woman who had cervix cancer. She had cervix cancer. She'd
have had radiation and chemo elsewhere, and it didn't work.
The cancer came back, so we had stage four cancer.
She's told she couldn't have more radiation, she had to
have chemo for the rest of her life. Well, she
didn't like that idea. She hated that idea. In fact,

(50:52):
she had already had chemo and radiation before and it
didn't work. If the chemo worked so well, the chemo
went throughout her whole body. If chemo were work so well,
the cancer wouldn't have come back, right because the chemo's
going through the whole body. And if the radiation works
so well, the cancer wouldn't have come back either. She
had standard radiation, which is so different than radiosurgery. One
of the biggest questions I get is what is the

(51:14):
difference between standard radiation and radiosurgery center Radiation usually retreats
a larger area of low doses, doesn't work very well.
Radio surgery is more precise treatment higher doses. We're the
first with body radio surgery in the Western Hemisphram. The
first doctor deformed brain radio surgery in New York, the
first doctor to perform fractionated brain radio surgery in New York.

(51:35):
Thousands of patients actually treated forty thousand patients over decades.
Huge experience, which what patients like, patients like smart, patients
like I should say, an experienced doctor. And this patient
came when she was told, Oh, you can't have more radiation,
you can't have radio surgery, you gotta have chemo. Remember
the average chemo is one to two hundred thousand dollars

(51:56):
a year, so there's big motivations to give chemo, and
maybe the all the motivations are not in the best
patient interest. We know that chemotherapy does not cure metastatic
cervix cancer, so they would have had a patient for
years getting chemo and chemo and chemo and chemo and
chemo without any expectations, whereas with us a few treatments,

(52:17):
Pinpoint make a stereotactic frame. We named beams at. The
cancer is lymphanode. We treated her and now five years
later she's cancer free with no chemo, no cutting, no bleeding,
no amunotherapy, no hospitals, no anesthesia. She walked in our
door at thirty eighty four Broadway making the stereotactic frame.
It's comfortable, non claustrophobic, no pain. We aimed Beams at

(52:40):
that tumor. It was actually a cancer from the cervix
that came back even though she had standard radiation, standard
chemotherapy at super duper General and now five years later,
cancer free, doing great. This is the work that we
do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway, in
thirty eighth Street in the heart of New York City.

(53:02):
My name is doctor Liederman. Here for you, if you want,
I will talk about a woman with a very rare
tumor called emilioblastoma. It's a tumor of the teeth. So
she had a tumor of the teeth growing through and
distorting her whole face. It's a beautiful, soft spoken, nice, kind,
thoughtful woman, mother of two beautiful daughters, and her life

(53:23):
was being destroyed by this tumor growing through her jaw
and distorting her jaw, all from a tooth, from the
enamel of a tooth. And she went to the biggest
hospitals in New York. They wanted to remove part of
her face, cut off her mandible and all her teeth,
and take a bone from her leg and put it
in her face. And she just didn't want that, and
no one offered her any other option, no other option.

(53:47):
She came here and she learned about our experience treating
emilio blastomas with forty thousand patients. We have a huge
experience over decades, I believe more than any other physician,
and we offered her treatment. We talked about all the options.
We treated her, and now this is a woman who
used to wear a mask over her face all the time,
Now she's mask free, beautiful face. She's putting lipstick on

(54:09):
her lips. She's got her boyfriend. Now, she got a life. Now,
she has a love life. Now she is so happy.
We did a measurement of her tumor just with first
follow up. It's shrunken by sixty six percent by mathematic measurements.
This is the work we do for common cancers like
breast and lung and pancreas and bladder, prostate, and also
for rare tumors, primary tumors, metastatic tumors, even if there's

(54:33):
been prior treatment, prior radiation or chemor surgery.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with
doctor Gil Riderman and myself. If you have questions before
next week's show or want a free informative booklet and DVD,
just contact doctor Liederman at two one two choices. That's
two one two two four six four two three seven.
That's two one two two four six four two three seven.

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outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery Pioneer's goal too.
Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York
first for you with body radiosurgery, Doctor Liederman hits your
cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades
of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers

(55:40):
from head to toe cancer treatment with possibly a second
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He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices, two one two choices to
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thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to hit your cancer.
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