3PM Dr. Lederman Discusses Various Treatments for Cancer

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
For cancer treatment. Most prefer effective, non invasive, well tolerated,
outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.
Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,
First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your
cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades
of experience with primary and metastatic large or small cancers

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from head to toe. Cancer treatment with possibly a second
chance for you even if chemo radiation or surgery didn't
work or isn't tolerated. Goals are your best results and
quality of life. Meet doctor Liderman to hit the cancer.
He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices two one two choices to

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meet doctor Liderman for a fresh second opinion. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Free booklet DVD two super convenient Broadway in
thirty eighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liderman to hit your cancer.
Call two one two choices two one two.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's doctor Leaderman with Carrie Stubbs, who sings and writes
about his cancer treatment.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
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train don't has a tap, Call to until choices for
an appointment, Mate, So cancer, Candy said straight my cancer.
It was twenty two centimeteras Now I am cancer free.
No cutting, no bleeding, no hospital stay, no chemopharraphy. I'm

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grateful to Doc taleder Man at New York Radio Surgery.
No cutting, no bleeding, no hospitals. Day made me very happy.
Thirteen eighty four Broadway and thirty eight. If the address
my cancer had been set straight, called to Unto choices
for an appointment's mate to Leader Men's top right.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
For more information about innovative cancer treatment, called doctor Leaderman
two and two choices, two and two choices, thirteen eighty
four Broadway. Most insurance is accepted for newer recurrent cancers.
Call doctor Leader two and two choices.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Welcome everybody, It's the Radio Surgery Show with Doctor Gil Leiderman, MD,
New York's only Harvard trained, Triple Board certified radiation oncologist
who brings you the latest cancer treatment news, interviewing world
renowned cancer experts, delving to special cases, and of course,
answering your questions I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR

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Studios in the heart of New York City, and now
please welcome doctor Leaderman.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Thank you Rob, and thank you Noah, and thank you
for tuning in today and every day on the radio.
My name's doctor Liederman. I'll introduce myself in a few minutes,
but let's just say I'm a board certified cancer doctor,
and every day I see patients, and every day I
take notes, and every day I'm here to talk about
each human being, each person with an often dilemma of

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facing them what they should do with their life and
their cancer, to live, to keep their body together, to
be deformed, to have surgery, to be persuaded by surgeons
and chemotherapy doctors, radiation doctors. And every day we try
to sort out all the issues and come to some
kind of idea and explanation of what's happening to this

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patient and what's happening in the thought process. And you
can learn a lot about what a patient thinks about,
you can learn a lot about medicine, you can learn
a lot about life from this show. And we're not
trying to sell anything. That's far from it. We're trying
to educate so God forbid you, or a loved one,
or a neighbor, or even the person down the street

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has a cancer issue. Whether it's a question of cancer
or known cancer, or they're going through treatment and treatment's
not working. It might be something you want to tune
in and listen to. And this is the work that
we do every day. And I talked so much about
these issues. I want to give a perfect example today,
a perfect example, and just a couple of days ago,

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a man came, a businessman from the Philippines. He came
here many many years ago, about forty years ago, and
set up a medical business and was very successful in
his medical business. He has a sister who's a physician.
He's a very educated person. And well, what happened to
this man I should add on, not only as an

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intelligent man and thoughtful man, kind man. Sad to say,
he once was a smoker, but luckily for him, he'd
stopped smoking many years ago and now recently at age
eighty three. He's eighty three years old, he's married, he
has children, and he was born in Philippines. Businessman came

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with blood in the urine. He went to a local
hospital and this is what happens to most people went
to a local hospital and they said him to one eurologist.
And usually they send people to surgeons because they say, well,
there's blood in the urine. That's a business of a urologist.
Euro means like of the urinary system. An ologist is

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a lot word means someone who studies, but it actually
isn't just someone who studies. It's a surgeon who cuts
on the urinary system, cuts out, the bladder, cuts out,
the kidney, cuts out, the prostate cuts cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts,
and so this man was worked up by one eurologist.
And when you have blood in the urine, the proper

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thing to do is get a urine test. And proper
thing would be get a scan of the palvis or
abdomen of palvis and see if there's other causes for
blood in the urine, like kidney cancer, urin cancer, bladder cancer,
other cancers. And they look inside. It's called sistoscopy. Cisto
is again a word means bladder, and oscopy is to

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look in. So sistoscopy is to look inside the bladder.
And the eurology did that. He looked inside and it
was he he looked inside the bladder and he found
a mass that's called a sisto and then he arranged
a test called a TRBP t U RBP, which means
a trance urethra goes through the a man that goes

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through the penis goes a woman goes through the urethrae
either one. It's going through the urethra and then into
the bladder and look around. And not only ad TRBP
is to look around, but if there's a tumor, to
start scraping it out and get a big biopsy of it.
And that's what was done to this man. And when
they scraped out the mass that they found in the bladder,

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they found an invasive cancer. And there's more or less
two kinds of bladder cancers. There's a lot of different cancers.
I'm trying to make it easy to think about. And
for the typical cancer, there's one which is called superficial
bladder cancer, which is superficial does not go in the muscle,
and then there's invasive cancer goes in the muscle. Remember,

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the bladder has, again in simple terms, two parts. One
is the lining because the urine is very corrosive, so
there's a lining that protects the bladder, and then there's
the muscle. The muscle pushes the urine out, so we
need that bladder to push the urin out. If it doesn't,
the urin just gets stuck in their and causes all

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kinds of problems, can even get backed up and harm
the kidneys and harm the bladder. So the lining of
the bladders where the cancer usually starts, not always, but usually,
and then if it's invasive, it's going into the muscle.
And that's what this man had yet, an invasive cancer
of the bladder. And this eurologist did one test, only

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one test besides looking inside into the biopsy, that was
to do a cat scan. And he told this eighty
three year old man, your only choice is to have
your bladder removed. Yeah, your bladder removed. I can tell
you that if you haven't been aware of it, Removing
a bladder is a big deal. It means for a

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man or woman, the bladders removed, and the urine is
never comes out the same way really, because you're not
a big muscle pushing the urin out, and you usually
don't even push out the same way. You have another
hole somewhere else, and sometimes a tube that goes in
to collect the urine, or sometimes there's a little plastic
bag on one's domino area to collect the urine. In

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any event, there's no normal urination. And for a man,
when they remove the bladder, they also remove the prostate,
which deep sixth man sex life and erections and all
the other normal life functions that go so human being.
Man or woman lose lots of function. And this man,

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eighty three years old, he had only a cat scan
and a biopsy, and he was told he had to
have his he had to have his bladder removed, he
had to have radical surge. And again, he's eighty three
years old. He has high blood pressure, cholesterol, other medical problems.
He's a smoker, he has some lung disease. And the
surgeons are hot to operate. And this man is a

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very smart and prudent man. And he thought to himself, hmm,
maybe the surgeon is not telling me all the options.
I grew up and I went to medical school, and
I learned that a doctor is obliged to tell patients
all the options, the options said may benefit us, and

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options that don't benefit us. We're not here for ourselves,
we're here for the patient. Why did we go to
medical school? Why did I go to medical school. I
went to medical school to help people, not to help myself.
To help people. And so I saw this man, and
I examined this man, and I sat down with this
man and I told him, Number One, usually we get

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better testing before they do radical surgery. You want to
make sure the cancer hasn't traveled. And a cat scan
is not the best test. It's not the best test.
Why well, because number one, the bones in the pelvis
are very thick and caused distortion, so there's not very
good imaging in the pelvis. There's better tests. For example,

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an MRI is much better test in the pelvic area
than a cat scan for this particular reason. And there's
other tests such as a PET scan to see if
the cancer got in the bloodstream but traveled to the
lungs or the liver or other organs. And this man
had no testing of that sort. So it's shocking to me.

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It's shocking. It's not shocking because it hasn't heard of.
We talk about this every day, about people who are
rushed in to have surgery without learning about all the options,
without getting proper tests, without thinking about all the options,
without being told all the options. And so this man
had an idea that the surgeon wasn't being straight with him.

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And this man called us up two and two choices
as to meet me, and we saw him immediately because
he had surgery scheduled I don't know two days later.
And some people think, oh, if surgery is planned, you
can't cancel it. Well, of course you can cancel. It's
your body. Why would you want to have surgery if
you knew there was a better treatment And we know
now that with non invasive treatment for bladder cancer, and

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this is the shocking thing that with our technology non
invasive treatment, keeping the bladder in tech is just as
successful as removing the bladder. So in fact, there's no
good reason to remove the bladder in my view, and
there's oodles of reasons not to have the bladder removed,

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especially number one, they didn't do proper testing to see
if the cancer traveled. There was no MRI done, there
was no PET scan done, there was no discussion with
the patient by the surgeon about all the options. And
I can tell you this patient was so relieved when
he heard that we can treat bladder cancer with the

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same success as surgery with no cutting and no bleeding
and no anesthesia and no hospitals. They all out patient,
and he as a businessman, as a business and most
people want to stay out of the hospital and stay
out of radical surgery and keep their body intact that
God gave them, and this man especially felt that way.

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And most of the people who come here and most
of the people who learn and hear about all the
options want to keep their body intact. Sometimes people think, oh, okay,
I'll remove my bladder for it helps save my life,
but that's not the case. The success rate is equal
with non invasive treatment here at Radio Start in New
York for bladder cancer and for many many cancers, and

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in fact there's probably better results, for example, with prostate
cancer and so many cancers, pancreas cancers and liver cancers
and metastatic cancers, and cancers in the bone, and cancers
in the lymphanodes and brain tumors, non invasive acoustic neuromas,
meningeoma's and pituitary tumors with high success rates ninety seven

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percent success rates. So there's lots of reasons. And I
spent about an hour with this man, and I spend
a lot of time with each person, getting the history
and reviewing the documents and examining the patient, and then
discussing and answering all the questions. That's what we do
every day. At the end of our time together, this

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man was so happy to hear that there was really
no reason for that surgery, which he felt the surgeon
was pushing on him. He felt there was an ulterior
motive and he didn't like it. He didn't like to
be pushed. And here at radis from New York, we
don't push anybody. We talk about all the options, and
we wait for the person to say, hey, I want this,

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or I want that, or I want whatever he wants,
or we let the person ask their questions. I always
ask each patient multiple times do you have any other questions?
Any other questions before they leave, so they feel confident
that they have the time and the attention of the doctor.
And this is the work that we do every day

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at thirteen eighty four Broadway. And so for this man,
as I got up to leave you, I asked you
have any other questions? He said, yes, Doctor, when can
I start your treatment? I do not want surgery, I
do not want my bladder to be removed. I don't
want my prostate to be removed. I don't want to
be urinating through a tube or a bag. I don't
want to be impotent. I want to have high success

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rates with no cutting and no bleeding, no anesthesia, and
no hospitals. And this is the work that we do
every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway. So many people ask,
and I tell every person what the options are. Each
person can decide. There's a sign on the wall, Doc,
there's lots of art on the wall. If you come here,
you'll see probably more art than any other facility around.

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And the art is all educational. It's all directed to learning.
And so for this man, and all he could ask
was when can I get started? I said, look, I
would like to get the MRI of the pelvis. I'd
like to get the petskin. Had to get all the
testing to make sure the cancer hasn't traveled first. When
you have cancer, you needn't know a few things. You
need to know what kind of cancer you have. If

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you have cancer, what kind and where is it. It
didn't help this man to know he had cancer. But
then the surgeon was going to cut out the bladder
and the prostate no matter what he found, because it
didn't even look. He really didn't even look. He did
not look in the best way. So this is the
work we do. It's so different. And for most patients

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who come here, they will tell you they feel. It's
so different for the thoughtful person who wants to try
to get the best results, who wants to try to
do it their way, who wants to whether they want
to have surgery or radiation, or chemo or amuno therapy
or combination therapy or no therapy. We talk about all
the options, so someone is confident that their questions are

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being answered and that they know what's going on in
their body. And I can tell you about ninety percent
of the time, ninety percent of time people leave here
knowing things about the body, about their own body that
they were never told anywhere else. That's right. Ninety percent
of time people learn things about their body that they
were never told anywhere else. And this is the work

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we do. My name is doctor Liederman. We'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when surgery
didn't help and toxic chemo stopped working. Many come in pain.
Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman when their
caregiver has no more care to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing
innovative cancer care for decades. When the next cancer drug
is not as promised, when surgery was to fail to pass,

(16:52):
we may be able to offer you new cancer treatment options.
We treat new and recurrent cancers small or large, most
anywhere in the body, even if prior chemo, radiation or
surgery didn't work. Call doctor Liederman two and two choices
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eighth and Broadway. Most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Harvard trained,

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Triple Board certified Doctor Liederman two and two choices, two
and two choices for innovative cancer treatment. Best is to
meet doctor Liederman in person. Call two and two choices
two and two choices.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
It's doctor Liederman with guy talking about skin cancer treatment options.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
You treated me.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
I had basil cell onto my cheek. A buddy of
mine went through the same thing that looked like they
went out of him with a melon baller. This was
on my face. I don't want any caring. I think
I'm kind of handsome. I wanted to keep it that way,
so you are hats and we're going to Olympics.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Usually in America there's three million skin cancers a year.
Ninety nine percent of people are let down the primrose
path to have radic homs surgery for their skin cancer.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Why are you different.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
From hearing what you report? You know, hey, you don't
need to get radical deforming. Come then see what we
could do. I have a lot of trust in what
I've seen and what I heard, and the treatments were
very simple.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
If Miss America comes up to right now, what would
you think about the results of your skin.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
She would be able to keep her hands off. There
is zero indication it was ever there. You know, I
don't know that I got the chance to say, hey, thanks,
doctor Leadman. I tell anybody who's going down the same path.
Doctor Leederman did the absolute perfect thing. That's what you
should do.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Any regrets, not at all, called doctor Liederman at two
and two Choices, thirteen eighty four, Broadway. Most insurances, Medicare,
Medicaid accepted.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City. Were just a
few steps from the radio surgery in New York Cancer
Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treat prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

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and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liderman at two and two choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
We are back. When I was asking guy who had
had skin cancer treatment years ago and expressed his gratitude,
he actually called the show and on the show talked
about his experience. He's an Olympic athlete, he's a national
champion athlete, he's an international champion athlete. He's very successful,
and he just did not want skin cancer surgery on

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his face to deform his face. And as he said,
he had a friend who had a skin cancer at
the same time, and that friend took the advice of
the dermatologist, which was surgery. I can tell you there's
three million skin cancers a year in America, and most
all the dermatologists send the patient for surgery. Without even

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talking about all the options. And it's so common. It's
so common that I see people with skin cancer. I
see many, many people with skin cancer, and they're never
told the options until they hear about it here on
the radio or a prior patient like Guy tells his friends,
or people come in to learn about options, but they're

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almost never told about the options by their dermatologists, which
is really sad. The dermatologists should know better. They should
be able to inform their patients that there's treatment for
skin cancers without deforming surgery or basal cells and squamous
cells and charactoy entoma and other skin cancers. This is

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the work we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
In fact, we even have booklets and DVDs. We have
a booklet about skin cancers with lots of examples before
and after our work to better stimulate and educate a
person that may have a skin cancer that there are
non invasive treatments with very high success rates about ninety

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five percent, with no cutting, no bleeding, no patchworth, no deformity,
no cut, cut cut. This is the work we do.
So thank you Guy for informing the world about what
happened between you and me and how you are now
as you say, you could not even tell that skin
cancer was there, compared to his friend who looked like

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there was a melon baller going through his face. And
that's how he's been left versus this guy intact, handsome,
as he says, a handsome, kind, generous, thoughtful man. I'll
talk about another man, seventy six year old man with
skin cancer. He's married. There's a New York City. He
was found by a dermatologist to have a caarratoy canthoma

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years ago, about ten years ago, had a caaratoy can
thoma cancer and the surgeon wanted to do total removal.
He was sent by the most surgery people most surgery.
Most is a kind of excavation, so rather than just
a tiny incision, it's actually a large area removed and

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all the way down through the whole segment of the
skin down to the fatty tissue that I've seen in general,
and there was left often with a scar deformity. View
it on the eye, the nose, the mouth, the ears.
These are structures that they don't have redundant Tissue's not
like removing a skin cancer on one's buttock. So this

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man was smart, and he came here about ten years
ago with the kerato canthoma and decided to be treated
with us, with non invasive treatment. And this is the
work we do. And many people with skin cancers have
more than one because many people have sun exposure as
the cause. That sun exposure was to large parts of

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the body. Often the person was on the beach when
they were young. Most sun exposure in skin cancer patients
comes before the age of eighteen. So this man is
now seventy six years old. Actually was seventy six years
old ten years ago, about eighty six years old now,
so he had sun exposure more than sixty years before,

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and so he was so happy. And then he had
another skin cancer, another skin cancer on his shin, and
again the surgeon told them, oh, you gotta have Mo's,
you gotta have Mo's. I recommend Moe's surgery excavation of
the skin. And this man said, no, I'm going back
to doctor Liederman. Doctor Liederman treated me ten years ago
and the results are fantastic, and he's so pleased. He

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had a second and actually a second and a third
skin cancer, and all three times he was treated here
for squamoussel baso cell and teratoy cantoma. And he was
so pleased that I could tell you that he went
back to the dermatologist. To the dermatogist is calling him,
what are you doing? What are you doing? What are
you doing? Because they're so nervous, what are you doing?

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He's walking away from their practice and their moe's surgery.
And next thing he did, he came in a few
days ago and he said, Oh, my dermatologist wants to
know what kind of machine you use for this treatment,
because there are some dermatologists that are trying to buy equipment. Well,
the machines we use cost about three or four million dollars,

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so I can tell you that the dermatologists that you
see are not using the equipment that we do. And
there's one more thing about it that's even more important.
I always tell people it's like if I give you
or me Michelangelo's paint brush, we can't paint like Michelangelo.
The secret is not in the paintbrush. The secret is
in what Michelangelo's head could think of and do in

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his talents. And the secret of taking care of cancer
is not the machine or the drug. It's how the
doctor uses his talents or her talents, uses their talents
to get the patient better. So when the dermatologists asking
what kind of machine, the dermatologists is not going to
buy the best of my knowledge, a three million dollar machine.

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They can't even operate it. Actually, legally, the dermatologists cannot
operate a radiation machine. So there's lots of reasons why
people come here for skin cancer care. One is to
see a doctor who has been treating thousands of patients
over forty years. Forty years with lots of experience, and
we often treat very complex cancers or on the eye, nose,

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mouth ears in people that thought they were doomed, who
have surgery or deforming surgery, doomed to lose their eyes
or nose, or mouth or ears. We see that every day.
And yet our success rate non invasively is very high.
It's ninety five percent with no cutting and no bleeding

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for skin cancers. And we've treat small skin cancers and
big skin cancers. And you'll see it if you choose to.
If you call our office and you can call now
or tonight or whenever or never, you can get a
package of information about our work about skin cancers or
any other other cancers. I'm talking about cancers that had
and had a neck and brain and lungs and lympho

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and skin and abdomen, liver and kidney, and pancreas and
testing gnacologic cancers called erecto cancers, primary cancers, metasatic cancers.
There have lots of information to send you at no charge.
There's no obligation. If you wish, you could send it
to you, or you can come in if you want.

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Many people come in. We're right in the middle of
New York City by Times Square and Harold Square and
Macy's and Poort Authority, so it's easy to find us.
Thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street, in
the heart of New York City. So this man who's
dermatologists wanted to know what kind of machine we use?
Might have been better. The dermatologists might have been better

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to call up doctor Liederman say hey, I would like
to see I would like that you see my patients
because you've done such a great job on this man
with three difficult cancers. But I can tell you my experience.
Sad to say that gematologists almost never change their way.
The dermatologists are surgeons. The dermatologists generally keep on cutting

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even if they see a better way, which is pretty sad.
It's a little bit like the urologist I talked about
at the top of the hour who wanted to cut
this eighty three year old scientists bladder out even without
proper staging, even without talking about all the options. So
there's a common thread here of surgeons who want to
cut even if there's a better way, and that's why

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so many people come here to get a fresh second
opinion first before they take any action. My name is
doctor Liederman. We'll be right back.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
It's Johnny Bragg's talking prostate cancer. Twenty years ago, I
came to doctor Leederman with prostate cancer. It was serious.
My stepfather died days after prostate surgery. My uncle never
recovered from prostate surgery. I came to doctor Leederman with
prostate cancer and high PSA. Doctor Leederman explained all options,

(28:01):
shared his and comparison results. I trusted doctor Liederman twenty
years ago. Today, I trust doctor Leederman even more. My
prostate cancer is gone, my PSA is zero, my quality
of life is great. You can trust doctor Leederman too
like me for over twenty years. Call doctor Liederman for

(28:23):
prostate cancer. Two on two choices. That's two on two choices,
thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Street in Manhattan.
Most insurance, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Liederman two and
two choices.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's doctor Liederman with Calvin West singing and writing about
his cancer treatment.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I had cancer and pooda at the radio surgeon reader
that Tom chaneys, I'm so glad.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
We do want to thank.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Dot good Landa and you.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Helio J.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Katzer.

Speaker 9 (29:20):
It's like counting two two, three, wells up.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
No pad your brand that is so too.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Free cancer treatment, called doctor Leederman, two and two choices.
Two and two choices, Call doctor Liederman.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Liederman at the w o
R studios in the hearts of New York City. We're
just a few steps from the Radio Surgery New York
Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(29:58):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
Hemisphere with body radio surgery. You can also call doctor
Leiderman at two and two choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Leiderman, we're back.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
We're back. I just want to take a moment to
introduce myself. As I said, there's lots of people talking
on the radio in life about their advice, and we
never know what their education is or what their background
is to give it advice. Is it because uncle Harry
or aunt Tilly did this, that's their advice, or is
it because they've studied for forty years and been a
doctor for forty years? And so I want to give

(30:31):
you my background so you at least know who's on
the other side of this radio or computer however you're listening.
I was born and raised in Waterloo, Iowa. I went
to public school, University MD at twenty five, real medical
doctor MD at twenty five. Like my brother Ted, doctor
Ted Liederman also real doctor, MD at twenty five, and

(30:52):
my son Ariel Leaderman also doctor Liederman, MD at twenty five.
There's three Doctor Liederman's MD at twenty five all of us.
I'm here at thirty y four Broadway. Ariel Leaderman, MD
at twenty five, is board certified, trained at illustrious hospitals
from Atlantic to Pacific and the biggest facilities, biggest cities

(31:16):
around the country. Is very thoughtful, caring, kind, well educated,
well mannered, love by patients, and he sees patients every day.
And you're very very very very lucky to have doctor
Ariel Leederman care for you. If you wish, everything here
is if you wish. We don't do anything without your

(31:37):
wishes and your consent. I went on after age twenty
five MD to University of Chicago. Michael Reese trained internal
medicine for three years, board certified, went onto Harvard Medical School,
trained at the prestigious Dana Farber Cancer Institute and served
on the staff board certified in medical oncology, took care
of thousands of people with cancer, and then went on

(31:59):
at Harvard Medical School to the Joint Center for Radiation Therapy,
their main facility for radiation. Five Harvard hospitals and board certified,
years of training, years of education, the only Harvard trained
triple board certified radiation doctor in New York and one
of the few in the world here for you. So

(32:22):
that's who I am and where I am, and you
can easily find us at thirteen eighty four Broadway. You
can call and make an appointment just called two and
two choices, two and two choices. The number in digits
is two and two two four six forty two thirty
seven two and two two four six four two three seven,

(32:46):
and be honored to see you. Who do we see, Well,
we see people that want to know what's going on.
They want to know if they have cancer. We're going
to talk about a man like that. It is a moment.
There's other people who were just diagnosed with cancer, either
here or elsewhere, and want to come here and learn
about all the options so they don't get railroaded to
lose their bladder or their breast, or their skin, or

(33:09):
their nose, or their eye, or their ear, arm or leg.
And I can tell you all those things have truly happened,
and so many people would diagnosi is just diagnosed. Come
here for a fresh second opinion. And then the third category.
So the first is you want to know what's going on.
Number two, you have a cancer and you want to
know all the options before you do anything. And then

(33:32):
number three is you have a cancer, you ben going
elsewhere and the treatments is not working out, You're not
tolerating it. It's not working. The cancer's growing, you're losing weight,
you're having more pain. Your doctor's not showing you the notes.
He's not showing you or she's not showing you where
the cancer is from time to time, and you just
understand are you winning or losing? So often, So here

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we are at thirty to eighty four Broadway to see
people with no cancer checked out, see people with recently
diagnosed cancer want to know all the facts before they
get started. And then to see people who have had
treatment elsewhere and it's just not working, not getting better,
not tolerting treatment. This is the work that we do
every day at thirteen eighty for Broadway. Now we're talking

(34:20):
about a man and I talk about this almost every show.
He's a sixty nine year old black man, and I
say that because of the black community, one in six
black men will get prostate cancer, one in twenty three
will die of prostate cancer. So this is a man
had frequent urination at nighttime, he had pelvic pain, he
had constipation, and he came to me divorced, and he

(34:44):
had pelvic pain and testicular pain. He was waking up
three times a night at least, and he never had colonoscopy.
So there's a lot of work to do here. And
so he came to me his father may have had
prostact cancer, so there's a family history, which even increases
the odds. And then I examined him and exam he
had an enlarged nodular hard prostate, So he had a

(35:08):
lot of warning signs here father with prostate cancer, nodular prostate,
and then frequent youurination, pelvic pain. But I can tell
you you don't have to have any symptoms to have cancer.
And I can tell you also, ninety percent of people
who come here come with no documented family history. So

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just because your family didn't have cancer doesn't mean that
you can't have cancer. In fact, it's more common that
your family doesn't have cancer. So this man got checked out.
His PSA was high. It was eleven. He had never
been checked out. He was sixty nine years old. He
was never checked out even though he had pelvic pain
and urine other symptoms. PSA was high. Normala PSA is

(35:52):
prosthetic specific antigen. It was eleven normals four, so it's
almost three hundred percent elevated. He got a biopsy. He
had a Gleason eight cancer. So what is gleasing is
the score of the cancer when a pathologist looks at
the biopsy of the prostate under the microscope. So he's

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had a very aggressive cancer by PSA, very aggressive cancer
by Gleason score, very aggressive cancer by stage. When he
examined his prostateut at a rock hard nodular prostate and
he was seen here six years ago. I saw him
six years ago for his high risk cancer, high PSA,

(36:33):
high Gleason score, nodular prostate, and well, he chose our treatment.
He chose our treatment. He did not want to do
radical surgery. He knows with radical surgery about ninety seven
percent of the men end up impotent. About eighty percent
of the men are peeing in their pants because radical
surgery removes the prostate and urethra you wreath through is

(36:54):
the tube that goes from the bladder out that that
would shorten the penis. Just like when a plumber has
a pipe and they remove a segment of the pipe,
they need to put the ends together to make the
pipe work well. Radical surgery not only causes impotence in
many men, it also causes leak each in many men

(37:15):
about eighty percent, and also shortens the penis. So this
man did not want to have anything to do with surgery,
and we arrange for the biopsy to be reviewed, the
blood tests be reviewed, and we talked about all the options,
and he saw our option and he saw how far
superior it is. Superior to proton beam or superior to

(37:39):
radical surgery. And this is the work that we do
every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway. And he was
treated years ago. Years ago, he was treated about six
years ago, he was treated and now his PSA is zero.
He is cancer free. How do you know you're successfully
treated with a PSA should go down to zero without

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any hormones. Hormones can mask the PSA, So if one
takes lubron or cassidex or medicine like that, a hormone
or anti TESTOSL medicine, the PSA goes down for a while.
But with us, ninety percent of all the prostate patients
we treat, ninety percent are cancer free. And this is

(38:22):
the work that we do every day. At thirteen eighty
for a Broadway and this man is so happy having
had a glease an eight cancer or nodular prostate high PSA.
He walked in our door with no idea he had cancer,
no idea. He wanted to get checked out because of
the pain and frequent youurination. And now he's feeling better,

(38:44):
his symptoms have gone away. He's cancer free, and most
likely he's going to do great for the rest of
his life because he made a good decision. Now, this
is the work that we do every day at thirty
eighty four Broadway Broadway in thirty eighth Street in the
heart of New York City. Now we talked about another

(39:06):
man with prostate cancer. He's seventy seven years old from Africa.
He's married, he has three children. He had stage four cancer.
He was diagnosed a year ago. His PSA was a thousand,
and he had what was called a super scan. The
cancer had traveled to the bones. He had a biopsy.
He had a glease in nine cancer five plus four

(39:26):
equals nine and four plus five equals nine. And he
was seen elsewhere at the super Duper General and they
gave him loop run and cassidets. They gave him a
hormonal therapy. His cancer had invasion of the nerves around
and appeared that he had metastasis to the lung and
the pelvis and the bones. So he was getting hormone treatments.

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He had to fuse pain his way to drop because
of the cancer from one seventy five to one forty.
He's five foot six. He had painting the spine and
the hip. I examined him and he had a nodular prostate.
He had pain in the hips and the armbone. We
got blood tests, we documented his cancer, reviewed his results,

(40:12):
and we treated him and his pain went away. All
the pain in his spine and sacrum went away. And
that's what usually happens. But with us, ninety percent chance
that pain where we aim the bean will stay away,
unlike chemo or hormone therapy where it might work temporarily,
but the cancer always comes back. With us, with radio surgery,

(40:35):
there's a ninety percent chance of success where we attacked
the cancer. This is the work we do. And one
more thing about this man. So while we were seeing him,
he was losing his hearing. He could barely hear, and
we tested him out and he'd been seeing other doctors
at Super Duper General, and everyone ignored his hearing loss.

(40:56):
So he got special tests of his hearing and of
his ears, and we found that the cancer was eating
its way through the bones, the temporal bones around his ears,
and the bones were destroying his hearing, so he couldn't
hear anything. I would shout at him, and he wouldn't hear.
He couldn't hear, and so we offered him treatment to

(41:19):
restore his hearing, or to try to restore his hearing,
which is actually one of the most incredible things I've seen,
because usually when you lose neurologic function, just like you
have a terrible stroke, often you never regained that function.
And this man had lost his hearing because of cancer
and the bones eating through the bones, the temporal bones

(41:41):
by his ears, both ears. He lost all ability. Cars
could honk at him, he wouldn't hear, he could shout him,
he couldn't hear. He just couldn't hear a thing. And
I asked him, do you want us to try to
help restore your hearing? And he said yes, please, Doctor.
Being deaf is devastating, devastating, and so we put together

(42:03):
a program to treat both of his ears simultaneously, and
this is the work we do. We reviewed his case
with radiologists and the radiologists and bone doctors, and he
did not want to have surgery on his ears. He
did not want to have surgery on his skull. He
chose us and he trusted us. He trusted us after
we treated his spine and hips areas with complete relief

(42:25):
of his pain and suffering, and so we offered focused
beam treatment just to the bones by the ears, so
very sophisticated work. We're giving pinpoint treatment to those bones
around his hearing apparatus, both sides simultaneously, right and left,
but pinpoints, so there wasn't tumor treatment going through his brain.

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The right side and left side were treated separately but
on the same setting. And now he can hear. He
regained hearing. It's really the most incredible thing thanks to
an astute doctor. I would say that knew how bone
cancer can destroy the hearing. That he trusted me. The

(43:13):
patient trusted me, and we offer treatment and now he
can hear again, and he is so happy. It's so
happy when you lose something and regain it like hearing.
He is so happy. He feels like he's born again,
and he's pain free. The cancer and the spine that
we treated is now gone, pain free, The cancer and

(43:36):
the skull around the hearing nerve is gone, and he's hearing,
and he's so happy. And this is the work that
we do every day at thirteen eighty four Broadway. If
you want more information about our work, you can call
us at two and two choices, two and two two
four six forty two thirty seven. Call us day or night.

(43:59):
We'll send you in form me. If you want an appointment,
call us at two and two choices. That's two and
two two four six forty two thirty seven. Call us
and we'll make an appointment for you if you want.
We accept most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. And one more thing
I want to tell you, and that is that we're
live on the radio and you can call us now.

(44:19):
If you have questions, call us at one eight hundred
three two one zero seven ten. Call us now we
have just a few minutes left. Call about your cancer
questions one eight hundred three two one zero seven ten,
and we'll answer your questions. My name's doctor Liederman will
be right back.

Speaker 8 (44:35):
Numbers mean much to me because of prostate cancer. I'm
Johnny Bragg's The number two for my stepfather who died
of prostate cancer and my uncle who suffered so much
after prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen fifteen years since
doctor Leederman's successful treatment of my prostate cancer. The number zero,
which is my PSA zero after doctor Leaderman's successful prostate

(44:58):
cancer treatment. What every man wants? The numbers one, two, three,
four important for every man with prostate cancer. One getting
the most successful treatment, two avoiding radical robotic surgery, three
keeping sexual functions. Four maintain in urinary control. Call my
doctor Liederman two and two choices, two and two choices

(45:19):
to consider his prostate cancer treatment for you. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eighth Call
two on two choices for prostate cancer treatment. Call doctor
Liederman two one two choices. I'm glad I did You'll
be number one with doctor Leaderman.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Speedy recovery for Defense chiefs secret prostate cancer surgery on
Christmas Eve, not informing even the President returned an ambulance
with pain absess bow obstruction secret turned disaster, sadly believed
is urologists. Like many with prostate cancer, radical prostate surgery
has many complications, leakage, impotence, shortening, inferior results. Thousands come

(46:01):
to doctor Liederman to learn all prostate cancer options from
New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified Radiation oncologist.
Defense chief sadly believed Pie and Sky promises another reason
to meet doctor Liederman about highly effective prostate cancer treatment
avoiding radical surgery. Best is to meet doctor Liederman. Call
doctor Liederman two and two choices, two and two choices,

(46:24):
thirteen eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Most insurances Medicare,
Medicaid accepted. Call doctor Leederman two and two choices thirteen
eighty four Broadway at thirty eight. Call doctor Leederman, two
and two choices.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Welcome back to the Radio Surgery Hour. This is Rob
Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman at the w R
Studios in the hearts of New York City for just
a few steps from the Radio Surgery in New York
Cancer Treatment Center on Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostate cancer not invasively. He
was the first in New York with fractionated brain radio surgery,

(46:56):
and he's the first in America and in the Western
hemispe Beer with body radiosurgery. You can also call doctor
Liderman at two and two Choices for a free informative
booklet and DVD. Hey, doctor Liederman, we're back.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Hey, I'm going to talk about the one percent. The
one percent, and that is men who have breast cancer.
This is the story about a sixty six year old man.
He's single, has no children, as diabetes, he's in heart
failure as cardiac extends. He's taken insulin and he had
a lump in the left breast and he was seen
by radiologists as primary doctor, and surgeons and chemo doctors,

(47:33):
and well, he just did not want to lose his breast.
He saw a surgeon who wanted to do a mestactomy
and yeah, men have breasts too, and sad to say,
the typical treatment for men with breast cancer is losing
the breast. And just like women, we see so many
women who don't want to have radical surgery, don't want

(47:53):
to lose the breast. I see many women who don't
even want to have a lumpectomy and want to have
primary treatment. We see many women in that category. We
even see many women who don't want to have chemotherapy.
And this man, well, he was just like his sisters.
He did not want to have chemo, He did not
want to have surgery, had a biopsy of the breast.

(48:14):
We staged him up, just like I like to tell you.
We like to know what a person has. So we
had a lump in the breast, wearing a tiny little needle,
painless and easy and quick. We proved that he had cancer.
Then we tested his whole body from head to toe
that there was no spread of the cancer. And he
wished to have primary treatment of the breast, just like

(48:35):
so many women who come here. So the difference is
about one of one hundred people with breast cancer or
men ninety nine percent or women, And of course we
talk more about the woman, but he's the exception. And
all the people I'm talking about today are people that
I've seen in the last day or two. So it
just happens to be who's here. And so years ago

(48:57):
he came to me. Years ago, he told me he
did not want to have the surgery that the surgeon described,
or moving his breast years ago he told me he
did not want to have chemotherapy. And this is the
work that we do. And of course, if you want
to have surgeon, you want to have chemo or systemic therapy,
you're welcome to do it, and we can arrange that
for you as well. Whatever the patient wants. We believe

(49:18):
that the patient is the president of the United States
of his or her body. And so years ago he
came with an invasive left sided breast cancer, and years
ago he told me he did not want to have
surgery at chemo, And years ago he told me he
wanted non invasive treatment, only a short course. And this
is what he's had. And now he's in remission, cancer free,

(49:42):
normal exam and normal blood tests and normal imaging. And
this is the work we do. We do it for men,
we do it for women, We do it for anyone
who wants. This is the work we do every day
at thirteen eighty four Broadway Broadway, in thirty eighth Street
in the heart of New York City. Now I talk

(50:02):
about a woman, very dramatic story, sixty four year old
woman from Jamaica. She's married with a daughter. She came
here with her daughter. She had high blood pressure. She
was on medicine. She had abdominal pain, she had blood
in the vagina. She had a biopsy and she was
found to have a sarcoma lyle mile sarcoma of the
uterus was seen by a gynecologist. She had a pet

(50:23):
scan which had extensive disease, with disease in the uterus
and lung and liver, peritoneal cavity. She had a mass
in the umbulikas the belly button, and so she had
stage four cancer. And she understood that with sarco sarcomas
rarely respond to chemotherapy and she did not want to

(50:44):
have surgery because she had had stage four cancer, so
surgery would not really help her. She had pain and
suffering and she came in for treatment and maybe in
the second day she came, she came shivering with fevers
and collapsed. She collapsed just in front of me and
we resuscitated her. She had a cardiac arrest in front

(51:07):
of me, and we resuscitated her immediately. That's the beauty
of radioster to New York. We know our patients and
nuncle wandering around in the hallways. We know our patients
and our staff knows our patients, and I saw this woman.
She was with her sister, and I said, I told
his sister we as a cardiac arrest, were to resuscitate her.
And we resuscitated her and brought her back to life

(51:29):
here at Radio Sirtan, New York. And we hope to
do a double whammy. Not only did we bring her
back to life after a cardiac arrest successful resuscitation, which
is very rare, as you probably know, but we're also
treating her cancer. And she's here to have radiosurgery for
her sarcoma. And we treat so many people with sarcoma

(51:50):
who just have had chemo and have had surgery and
it's so seldom that it works well. Here we have
a high success rate and it is durable with came out.
Even if it works for a few weeks or months,
the cancer, the sarcoma always comes back with us ninety
percent chance where we attack the cancer, it never comes
back for the life of the patient. And now we're

(52:11):
treating this big mass in the uterus and palvis, and
this is the work we do. We're treating her because
she has a big, massive cancer of sarcoma, we're treating
because she has pain and bleeding and suffering, and this
is the work we do, and she's already better. I
can tell you. She was so happy to be back
after we resuscitated, and it was so moving. I was

(52:33):
ready to cry when she told me, doctor, thank you
for saving my life. And it's very seldom that the
patient would say that, but she her life was saved
and we were able to witness a cardiac arrest, resuscitate her,
immediately bring her back to life. And she's now back
to herself, and we're treating her with radio surgery for
sarcoma of the uterus, and we have a huge experience

(52:55):
treating sarcoma's most anywhere in the body. Primary sarcoma's where
the cancer started, or metastatic sites like in the lung
or the bones or the liver, and she's gotten multiple sites.
So this is the work we do and we're able
to handle it. She's adamant against chemotherapy, she's adamant against surgery,
and this is the work we do. And so many

(53:17):
people come with cancer not wanting to have usual treatment
or chemotherapy. I talk about a man who's fifty six
years old, born in New York City, came with a
T one C gleas in seven cancers PSA had jumped
from eight to eleven. He was seen by doctor at
a super duper place. They told him not to do anything,
even though the high risk cancer had a gleas in

(53:38):
seven PSA eleven. He went to a super duper place.
They told him just watch it. He's a fifty six
year old man, he's married with two kids. He didn't
want the cancer to grow. The PSA was already jumping
from eight to eleven. He had a more aggressive cancer.
A year before, he had a gleason six. Now he
had seven. We treated him five years ago and he's
cancer free. We have a huge experience, non invasive treatment,

(54:01):
outpatient treatment for men with prostate cancer, very high success rate.
And for every man and their loved one. We show
them the data and data from around the country and
show comparison data. Show why it's so smart to come here,
get a second opinion, learn about what you have. If
you don't know what your PSA is in your man,
get checked out woman. If you don't know what your

(54:22):
breast exam is, mammograms, colonoscopies, it's time to get checked out.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Thanks for tuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with
doctor Gil Leiderman and myself. If you have questions before
next week's show or want a free informative booklet and DVD,
just contact doctor Liederman at two one two choices. That's
two one two two four six four two three seven.
That's two one two two four six four two three seven.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
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Doctor Liederman is first in America, first in New York,
First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor Liederman hits your
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(55:28):
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He's New York's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices, two one two choices to
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(55:51):
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Speaker 9 (55:58):
Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 2 (56:02):
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Speaker 3 (56:03):
Be a bad way?

Speaker 9 (56:06):
Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Conductor?

Speaker 9 (56:12):
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mean today. Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
That there can.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
Be a bad way? Did you know that you've got choices?

Speaker 6 (56:39):
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Speaker 9 (56:40):
They don't mean today. To want to choices is a
much bad way too. Want two choices, Conductor, They

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Don't mean today, Doctor Leiderman, Cancer Treatment, thirteen eighty four, Broadway,