5PM Dr. Lederman discusses various treatments for cancer

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The following is a paid podcast.iHeartRadio's hosting of this podcast constitutes neither an
endorsement of the products offered or theideas expressed for cancer treatment. Most prefer
effective, non invasive, well tolerated, outpatient therapy. That's doctor Liederman,
the radio surgery pioneer's goal too.Doctor Liederman is first in America, first
in New York, First for youwith body radiosurgery. Doctor Liderman hits your

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cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades of experience with
primary and metastatic large or small cancersfrom head to toe cancer treatment with possibly
a second chance for you even ifchemo radiation or surgery didn't work or isn't
tolerated. Goals are your best resultsand quality of life. Meet doctor Leaderman

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to hit the cancer. He's NewYork's only Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation
oncologist. Call two one two choicestwo one two choices to meet doctor Liderman
for a fresh second opinion. Mostinsurances Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Free book
DVD two super convenient Broadway in thirtyeighth in Manhattan. Meet doctor Liederman to
hit your cancer call two one twochoices two one two choices. It's doctor

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Leederman with Carrie Stubbs, who singsand writes about his cancer treatment. Thirteen
eighty Fourard Broadway and thirty eighth cataplaneHop a train don't has a tait.
Call too on two choices for anappointment, Mate, so cancer can be
said straight my cancer it was twentytwo centimeters. Now I am cancer free.
No cutting, no bleeding, nohospital stay, no chemo therapy.

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I'm grateful to Doc taleder Man atNew York Radio Surgery. No cutting,
no bleeding, no hospitals. Daymade me very happy. Thirteen eighty four
Broadway and thirty eight If the addressmy cancer had been set straight, called
to on two choices for an Appointment'smate the toleeder Men's top rights. For

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more information about innovative cancer treatment,called doctor Leederman two and two choices,
two and two choices, thirteen eightyfour Broadway. Most insurance is accepted for
newer recurrent cancers. Call Doctor Leedermantwo and two choices. Welcome everybody.

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It's the Radio Surgery Show with DoctorGil Leiderman, MD, New York's only
Harvard trained Triple Board certified radiation oncologistwho brings you the latest cancer treatment news,
interviewing world renowned cancer experts, delvingto special cases, and of course
answering your questions. I'm Rob Redstone, broadcasting from the WR Studios in the

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heart of New York City, andnow please welcome doctor Leaderman. Thank you,
Robin, thank you, no andthank you every day for tuning in.
Every day we're on the radio.Every day we try to learn together.
Every dreay we try to help people. My name is doctor, and
I'll introduce myself formally in a fewminutes and let's get going and we'll have

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time to talk together too. Ofcourse, I want to talk about a
gentleman who came to me. Heis fifty three years old. He's born
in Columbia, South America. Helives in Florida. He's married. He
came with his wife. He hasthree daughters. He has a big business
in Florida, and he was recentlydiagnosed to have prostate cancer gleas in seven
his PSA has been rising. Hewent from two his PSA. PSA is

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prosthetic specific antigen. Most men knowwhat their PSA is. If you don't.
It's probably time to come in andget a prostate check. Many men
do. We see men and womenand children every day. Why do men
come to get PSA as well?We know that there's a relationship between PSA
and prostate cancer, usually not always. Usually, if you have a elevated

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PSA, it shows a risk ofhaving prostate cancer, usually not always.
Usually, if your PSA is fouror above, people recommend to get biopsies.
Usually I see many men and ofjust a few minutes ago, a
man named Steve from Connecticut, abig businessman, had a PSA of four,

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and then I went to five andsix, and he went to see
his doctors, and his doctors said, oh, don't worry about it,
don't care, You'll be okay.And he was falsely reassured, falsely reassured.
And he just stemailed me a coupleof minutes ago, and well,
so what happened to Steve whose PSAwent from four to five to six?

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Said he was falsely reassured. Hethought everything was fine his doctor. He
thought his doctor could see into thefuture. His thought his doctor was god.
He thought his doctor knew everything.He thought his doctor could give him
good advice. And his advice wasto not worry about it. Well,
next thing he knew his PSA wassixty and in ninety within months, and

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he sat at his home phone waiting, waiting, waiting for a call from
this urologist who told him, oh, don't worry about it. And well,
by that time he was worrying aheck of a lot, and he
decided to call the doctor that helistens to every day on the radio,
doctor Liederman. And some people willsay, oh, it's so far.

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Well, when you want to saveyour life and fight for your life,
it's not so far to come todoctor Liederman at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
And he called me up and weinvited him in and he got seen immediately
and repeated the test. It wasactually sixty, repeated it was ninety.
And we ordered tests, We orderedto buy upsy, We ordered scans of

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his body, not only to documentthe cancer, but to find out the
extent of the cancer. When youhave a cancer, it's great to know
what it is exactly and where isit. Those are the two most important
questions. And so for Steve,who was false leadersh that his PSA of
four and five and six was nothingand then it jumped within months to sixty

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and then ninety. It was somethingbig. It was a cancer in his
prostect that already spread to the lymphnodes. And we put together a program.
This is now three plus years ago, and his PSA, as I'll
tell you, or if we listenedto our last program, we announced that
it was a zero point zero two. He was very, very very low.

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And he's in remission. He's hadno treatment for a long time,
and he continues to live his life. He's lucky. He's has a beautiful
wife and a beautiful home and agarden and activities. And this is what's
happened to him with his good fortuneof being able to remember doctor Liederman,

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he always listened to on the radioand when he was in big, big
trouble, called us up, gotseen got by ups. He'd got stage
all within an hour's and then weput together a program. And now years
later his PSA is down from ninetydown all the way to zero point zero
two. So that's when I say, usually, so just because your doctor

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tells you, oh, don't worryabout it, well maybe you should worry
about it. Steve should have beenworried about it when his PSA was four,
and he listened to this program.He listened to this program all the
time as PSA was going up.Even to go from four to five to
six means it went up fifty percent. Right, the PSA that went is
four and now six is fifty percentincrease. Your deposited in your bank didn't

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go up fifty percent, and probablyyour house didn't go up fifty percent,
and probably your muscles didn't go upfifty percent. But the PSA went up
fifty percent, it was time toworry. And sad to say, he
was falsely reassured by his doctor notto worry. So sometimes when a doctor
says not to worry, it's probablytime to call doctor Liederman at two and

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two choices and get the fresh secondopinion like Steve did, which has changed
his life all for the better.And this is the work we do every
day. So I want to getback to this man from Columbia we were
talking about. Remember he was afifty three year old man and his PSA
went up from two to eight,so that quadrupled. That was four hundred

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percent increase, and he was neveroffered a biopsy. His doctors also were
watching him, he's fifty three yearsold. Never offered a biopsy. Finally
he came here. We got abiopsy and found a glease in seven cancer,
and we did a work up andwe found that there was no spread
of his cancer. This was yearsago. By the way, I didn't
tell you that this was years ago. He had some pelvic pain, he

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had some urgency when he urinated.He woke up at night five times to
urinate, and he was taking medicinesbut still waking up. I examined him
and on exam he had a nodularhard prostate. By the way, he
had no family history. People askall the time, oh, doctor Liederman,
what are the signs of cancer.Well, a lot of cancers have

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no signs. That's why it's soimportant to be seen, to have checkups,
to get evaluated, to have bloodtest, physical exams, callonoscopies,
mammograms, ultrasounds. This is thework we do every day. So for
this man, lucky for him,he came to us. Even though his
PSA went up four hundred percent fromtwo to eight and he had a gleas

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in seven, which is a moreaggressive cancer. Remember, gleasing is how
the cancer looks under the microscope witha scale from two to ten. He
had a seven, more aggressive cancerand a high PSA velocity. Well,
again, lucky for him, hecame here and we examined him and he
found this nodular prostate and he choseour treatment, which we think is the

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best treatment. And now his PSAis zero. His PSA is zero,
so he's doing great. His PSAis zero, he's happy, he's content,
his sex life works, as urinarylife works. He is doing great,
and he actually flies up just forhis appointments. He has a big

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business in Florida and comes here becausehe understands it's so important to get reliable
advice, good advice, good treatment. And we've proven to him with our
words and our actions that our wordswere correct, and our actions were correct,
and our treatment was correct. Andbest of all, his PSA is

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zero, which means he's in remission. And that is why it's so so
so great for him to have adoctor that he trusts, and a doctor
he makes an effort, an extraeffort. He and his wife make an
extra effort to come here, andhe certainly gets the good treatment, just
like he was a native New Yorker, even though he's from far away.

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This is the work we do everyday at thirteen eighty four Ah Street in
the heart of New York City.And we're talking about a woman whose brother
had prostate cancer. Her brother wassuccessfully treated here with prostate cancer, and
she decided to come here. Shehad a lung cancer. She's seventy five

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years old, she's single, shehas no children. She has the history
of lung cancer. She was diagnosedtwo years before. She went to a
super duper pooper hospital for shortness ofbreath. She was evaluated, she was
found to have lung cancer called Carsonoich, had a biopsy, and then she
went to a super pooper beef atbigger hospital where they gave her chemo and

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immunotherapy for two years. Now,most chemotherapy is one hundred or two hundred
thousand dollars a year, and shehad immunotherapy and chemotherapy, so she had
about a quarter million dollars of treatmentat the superpooper hospital. And remember,
for lung cancer, it never reallycures the patient and may work temporarily and

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then the cancer grows back. Andher never worked, and they kept on
giving it to her. They kepton giving a treatment that cost one hundred
two hundred thousand dollars. That didn'twork. It had side effects because chemo
goes throughout the body. It's likeputting your body in a bathup of well
poison, because it's really a poison. That did chemos to give a poison.

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It shrinks the cancer. But youcan't give too much or you kill
the body, you kill the patient. This woman never smoked, but she
did have second hand smoke exposure.She had a pet skin when she started.
I saw her, I examined her. Her lungs had some crackles,
there were no lymphotes. I cansee the cancer was growing on chemotherapy and

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growing on aemotherapy at this super duperplace, and they're just going to give
her more and more chemo what alreadyhadn't worked. It hadn't worked for two
years, two years, two hundredfifty thousand dollars down the tubes. Side
effects neuropathy, the pain in thehands, numbness in the hands, pain
in the feet, numbness in thefeet, and the cancer is growing and

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they want to give her something morethat wasn't working, more that wasn't working.
How does that make sense well tome? It doesn't make sense at
all. And we know that forlung cancers, almost for all cancers,
chemotherapy doesn't really work. It doesn'treally cure the patient. Maybe it works
temporarily, maybe shrinks the cancer fora few weeks or months maybe, and

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then it grows back. That's formost cancers. And so she came to
me wanting to know what to do, and we went over her case and
explained to her that the treatment she'shaving, even though it was very expensive
at a very very famous place,wasn't working. It wasn't helping her.
Chardy knew that. She knew thatbecause she came here wanting to get better

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treatment, wanting to get advice,wanting to get care. And this is
the work that we do every dayat thirteen Broadway. This is the work
we do. And so I metwith her. We explained all the options,
and everyone who comes here will explainall the options. Local therapy,

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regional therapy, sectemic therapy, variousforms of each, combination therapy with no
therapy, and most of our bookletsand art on the wall shows the options.
We talk about, the options.We like to explain, We like
our patients to understand. And sothis woman. Years ago. Six years

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ago she came to me, andsix years ago she was treated for her
lung cancer here. And the beautifulthing about radiosurgery is in a few treatments,
had just a few treatments, makea mold of the body, We
computerized our body, we send inbeams to attack the cancer. And just
a few treatments six years ago andshe's cancer free ever since, cancer free

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with six little treatments, painless treatments, non invasive treatments, cutting no bleeding
from the doctor. First with radiosurgeryin the Western hemisphere. And every doctor
knows if you have a serious condition, you should see the most experienced doctor.
And who is the most experienced doctoryet the pioneer, the first doctor

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to perform radio surgery, having treatedforty thousand patients over decades with high success
and high quality of life. Andthis is the work that we do every
day. And she is so happy. She's happy for her brother who's cancer
free from his prostate cancer. She'shappy for herself, even more happy for

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this lung cancer. She finally gotgood advice. Even though she went to
a super duper place. Everyone said, oh, are you going to a
super duper place. She said,yes, I'm going to a super duper
place. And for most people thatwas enough. They didn't ask, well
did it work? Is it toxic? Is it expensive? Can you afford
it? More people go bankrupt,by the way, who have cancer paying

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their bills than any other medical condition, and why is it? Well like
this, for this woman, theygave her. They didn't give her anything.
They sold her a quarter million dollarsof drugs immunotherapy a quarter million dollars
and it didn't work, and shehad to pay. She had to pay
her share, so she had topay her share. Sometimes she will say,
oh, it didn't cost you anything, Well, yeah, it costs
everybody. Everyone's paying, the peoplewho say, oh did you go to

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a super duper place? And thewoman who's getting the treatment, everyone's paying.
I'm paying, you're paying, everyone'spaying. And it didn't work.
And you can say, well,why are they doing that? Why are
they giving a treatment for a quartermillion dollars when she could go to doctor
Liederman for a pennies and the dollaryou could have radio surgery, which can
cure a person. And this womanis six years later with only our treatment,

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only a few treatments pinpoint radiation.We make a mold of the body,
we computerize the body, we findthe cancer. We send in beams.
Just a few beams, takes minutes, and you turn around to go
home. No cutting, no bleeding, high quality of life, high success,
and she now six years later,cancer free. This is the work

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we do. It's easy to understandwhy people come to us. It's not
easy to understand why people don't cometo us. They say, Oh,
I'm at a super duper place.It must be so fantastic. It's like
having a super duper car that doesn'trun. Our super duper car is always
in the shop. Oh it's asuper duper car, but I don't know
if it's going to start to takeme to the grocery store. I like

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doctor Liederman. I like radio surgery. I like the work we do.
We're proud of our work. We'reproud of being first when all the other
places, all the other hospitals,all the other doctors, all the other
facilities, we're doing standard treatment withlots of harm to the healthy tissues.
One doctor stood up and said,hey, there's a better way of treating
cancers in the body. And guesswho that is? My name is doctor

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Liederman, will be right back.Many people with cancer come to doctor Liederman
when surgery didn't help and toxic chemostopped working. Many come in pain.
Many people with cancer come to doctorLiederman when their caregiver has no more care
to offer. Doctor Liederman bringing innovativecancer care for decades. When the next
cancer drug is not as promised,when surgery was to fail to pass,

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we may be able to offer younew cancer treatment options. We treat new
and recurrent cancers small or large,most anywhere in the body, even if
prior chemo, radiation or surgery didn'twork. Call doctor Liederman two and two
choices two and two choices for afree booklet DVD thirty eighth and Broadway.

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Most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid accepted, Harvard Trained, Triple Board certified Doctor
Liederman two and two choices, twoand two choices for innovative cancer treatment.
Best is to meet doctor Liederman inperson. Call two and two choices two
on two choices. Radical surgeries deformbeautiful bodies. Doctor Liederman treats cancer non

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invasively. Woman afraid you can cancelmystectomy, afraid to offend doctors more than
deforming her own body. Woman lusther face, vision, hearing and smell
by doctor. She felt walked onwater. Water is gone, cancer is
back. Woman lost her entire armcancer relapsed with vengeance. Here for second

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chance after not wanting to wait minutesto see doctor Liederman, a visit that
might have saved her arm and life. Prostate cancer surgery elsewhere deforms, leaks,
impairs, shortens. Right. Momentto meet doctor Liederman for cancer treatment
is now. Doctor Leederman might saveyour life. Doctor Leederman, most experienced
body radio surgery, accepts most insurancesMedicare, Medicaid. Thirteen eighty four Broadway

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at thirty eighth First in America.Call doctor Liederman two and two choices,
two and two choices. Call doctorLeederman two and two choices. Welcome back
to the Radio Surgery Hour. Thisis Rob Redstone here with doctor Gil Leiderman
at the WR studios in the Heartsof News, New York City, were
just a few steps from the RadioSurgery in New York Cancer Treatment Center on

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Broadway in thirty eighth Street. DoctorLiederman, the leading cancer expert, treats
prostate cancer not invasively. He wasthe first in New York with fractionated brain
radio surgery, and he's the firstin America and in the Western Hemisphere with
body radio surgery. You can alsocall doctor Liederman at two and two Choices
for a free informative booklet and DVD. Hey doctor Liederman, We're back.

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We are back. I want totalk about a woman from former Soviet Union,
from Georgia and the former Soviet Union. Beautiful woman, forty six years
old. She's single, without children. She's dating a doctor. She came
with her friend. She came toUnited States from former Soviet Union Georgia in
well about twenty five years ago,and she came to me. She told

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me that years ago she had anultrasound and a mammogram and it had a
mass in the right breast. Shewas told that it was excuse me,
that was suspicious for cancer, andshe decided not to pursue it. Then
she went to an imaging center.She had the first mammogram of her life.
This was years ago. She hadcalcifications. She asked her more imaging,

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and she had more imaging and shehad a suspicious lesion. Doctors wanted
to do a biopsy. She declined. She had a mass behind the Nippo
areolar complex three centimeters from the Nippobiops was suggested and nothing was done.
And then a couple more years wentby, she had another mammogram and was

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called a by Red four. Sofor mammograms there's a scale of the abnormality
from one to five. One meanslooks normal, five looks like a definite
cancer. Four means most likely cancer. So she had a lesion in the
right breast at the twelve o'clock position. She had two biopsies which showed a
poorly differentiated doctok invasive cancer with necrosives, so she has a risk cancer in

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her breast. She knew about abnormalityin her breast for several years and she
got a biopsy of it about threeyears ago. Three years ago, there
was no skin open, there wasno nipple discharge. There was no family
history. So many people think,oh, there's no family history after worry.
Well, the fact is about ninetypercent of people with cancer have no

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family history, So the fact thatthere's no family history doesn't mean anything.
She had years of abnormality, shechose not to do anything about it.
She never smoked, She had nocoffer shortness of breath. She never had
conoscopy. I had advised her todo it. She had pap smears her
way. It was one thirty ortwo years ago away. It was about

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the same. She had no nightsweats, arms and legs are fine.
She was on no medications, shehad no allergies. I examined her,
and on exam she had a massin her breast at the twelve o'clock position.
The twelve o'clock or the clocks inthe breast imagine the nipples right in
the middle of a clock and wherethe hands are. So it helps doctors
and others direct where the concern is. So her leasure was at the right

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breast twelve o'clock position, and itwas palpable. And she went to super
pooper places and elsewhere, and theytold her she did surgery in the breast
and probably chemo and radiation, andshe'd probably have a year of treatment of
surgery and chemo and radiation, weeksand weeks. And she refused, She

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refused it all. She refused itall, and she continues to refuse it.
And then she came to me.She heard about all methods of treatment,
not just some methods of treatment,and I know that most hospitals off
for women. One method of treatmentthat say, okay, what you have
to have is blah blah blah blahblah blah blah, and usually blah blah

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blah blah blah blah blah involves removingthe breast, are part of the breast,
then months of chemotherapy, and thenmany many weeks of radiation. And
she walked away. She went tomultiple hospitals, she went almost every super
pooper hospital in New York City,and she walked away and came here because
she just did not want someone distortingher breast. She did not want chemotherapy,

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she did not want weeks and weeksof radiation, and she came here
with an open mind. It's abeautiful woman, beautiful mind, beautiful thoughts,
beautiful mother. She's here now inNew York with her mother from Georgia,
former Soviet Union. And we talkedabout all the options, which is
what we do for every patient.We talked about all the options, and

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she liked the idea of non invasivetreatment with no cutting, no bleeding,
no surgery, no lumpectomy, nomestectomy, no chemo thing therapy, no
weeks and weeks of radiation and shewould like the idea of pinpoint treatment.
And this is the work we doevery day. And by the way,
we have a booklet to show youexamples of breast cancer before and after our

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treatment. We have DVD available,We have lots of information available for you
interested in breast cancer or other cancers. And you can call her office even
now at two and two choices.That numbers easy to remember, two and
two which means New York City andchoices is like her. Here she had
choices. The other places they didn'tgive her any choices. Here are numbers

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two and two choices. I guessthere are numbers two and two no choices.
And she liked two and two choicesbetter than two and two no choices.
And she came here and we offeredher treatment of all the kinds,
and she chose to have non invasivetreatment with no cutting, no bleeding,
no surgery, no chemo, Andwe tread her by the way we treated

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her about three years ago. Threeyears ago, well in three years now,
she's cancer free. The lump isgone, she's cancer free, there's
no recurrence, she's had no chemo, she's had no surgery, she's had
no hormones, she's had no nothingother than radiation radio surgery with doctor Liederman

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at thirteen eighty four Broadway, whereexcept most insurances even hers few treatments.
She came in outpatient, no cutting, no bleeding, no deformity, and
she's now cancer free. She's beencancer free since we ended our treatment.
And this is the work we do. We do routine testing and blood tests

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and physical exams. This is thework we do every day at thirteen eighty
four Broadway and thirty eighth stro inNew York City. We have information to
send you. You can call useven now two and two choices if you
have a question about breast cancer.It's always best to meet in person.
There's too many mistakes with phone calls. Schur. It's great to make money

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for the doctor in the hospital.Phone call and charge like a real physical
exam, but it's incomplete, it'sinadequate. Patient doesn't get examined. There's
nothing back and forth of questions thatthere is in person, live and that's
how we do it. The bestpossible way for the patient, The best

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possible way for the patient is tocome make an appointment, come in.
We accept most insurances, Medicare,Medicaid. We're looking at thirteen to eighty
four Broadway Broadway, in thirty eighththreet in the heart of New York City.
And ask your questions and be seenand decide what you want to do,
or go home and think about it, whatever you want to do.
Here the patient is the President ofthe United States of his or her body.

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So different than elsewhere where the patientis told, oh, you got
to do this, you got todo this, you got to remove the
breast, you got to do chemoid, gotta no, those are options,
and here you get to learn aboutall the options which are hidden from patients
so often, so many places elsewhere. My name doctor Liederman, cancer doctor,

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the only Harvard trained Triple Board certifiedradiation doctor New York, one of
the few in the world. Herefor you, having created forty thousand patients,
Here for you for forty years.This is the work we do every
day. Well, right back whendoctor Leederman came to New York from Harvard,
ninety seven percent of women in NewYork were losing their breasts as breast

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cancer treatment. But ninety percent ofdoctor Liederman's patients with breast cancer. We're
keeping their breasts. Doctor Liederman,an outspoken advocate of breast saving therapy,
educated women about choices to arm everywoman about breast cancer choices. Breast saving
whenever possible and desired. When everyhospital thought standard radiation was okay, doctor

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Leederman had a better idea innovative DoctorLiederman first bought brain radio surgery in New
York and body radio surgery to America. Meet doctor Leederman, breast conserving therapy
over decades. Thirteen eighty four,Broadway at thirty eighth, Call two on
two choices, two and two choicesabout breast cancer treatment. Most insurances,

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Medicare, Medicaid accepted. For afresh second opinion, Called doctor Leederman.
Breast cancer treatment called two and twochoices, two and two choices. Call
doctor Leederman today, two and twochoices. It's doctor Liederman with Calvin West
singing and writing about his cancer treatment. I had cancer and my home Usada

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at the radio surgery reader choices.I'm so glad. Do you want to
thank Dot Leado, Manda and youElia Kats It's not count in two two

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three, Well up, no,no pad your band that is sent to
free cancer treatment, Called doctor Leedermantwo and two choices, two and two
choices. Call doctor Liederman, Welcomeback to the Radio Surgery Hour. This
is Rob Redstone here with doctor GilLeiderman at the w R studios in the

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hearts of New York City. Werejust a few steps from the Radio Surgery
New York Cancer Treatment Center on Broadwayin thirty eighth Street. Doctor Liederman,
the leading cancer expert, treats prostatecancer not invasively. He was the first
in New York with fractionated brain radiosurgery, and he's the first in America
and in the Western Hemisphere with bodyradio surgery. You can also call doctor
Liederman at two and two choices fora free informative booklet and DVD. Hey

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doctor Liederman, we're back. Weare back, and I promise missed you
earlier to tell you about who Iam if you haven't listened or heard before.
Because there's so many people talking onthe radio, many people are acting
like their doctors who aren't doctors.Even in medical offices nowadays, it's so
hard to see a doctor, somany others or doctors substitutes. Well,

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here at Radister of New York,you get to see a real board certified
doctor m D, real doctor.So different, Well who am I good
question? I was born and raisedin Waterloo, Iowa. My name is
Gil Liederman. I went to publicschools, University Medical School, MD at

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twenty five, real doctor, realdoctor. And also here is my son,
Ariel Leaderman, MD at twenty five, board certified, trained at the
most illustrious centers across America and ishere now. And his patients are very
lucky to see Aril Leaderman, boardcertified MD at twenty five. Warm,

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compassionate, smart, caring, thoughtfulperson who takes care of his patients from
A to Z. This is thework we do. Also another MD Leaderman,
Doctor Liederman, doctor Ted Liederman,MD at twenty five, So we
have three doctor Liederman's MD at twentyfive, real doctors. Our real Leaderman
is here seeing patients. Patients arelucky to see him, carrying board certified

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and covered by most insurances Medicare,Medicaid. I. After twenty five MD
went onto University of Chicago Michael Reies, trained an internal medicine board certified,
went on to Harvard Medical School inBoston, trained at the prestigious Dana Farber
three years board certified. It onthe staff and then went to Joint Center

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for Radiation Therapy three years trained andworked in Tree thousands of patients with cancer
Board certified, the only Harvard trainedtriple Board certified radiation doctor in New York,
one of the few in the world, the doctor first with the radio
surgery of the body, first inthe Western Hemisphere, first in the United

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States, and of course first inNew York, with thousands of patients treated
over decades. So that's who Iam. I should also tell you another
secret, and that is that we'relive on the radio. So if you
have questions, our concerns, ourstatements about cancer, cancer treatment, you're
welcome to call us now. Youcan call it one in hundred three two

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one zero seven ten. One eighthundred three two one zero seven ten.
My name doctor Liederman. If youcall us at one in hundred three two
one zero seven ten, Noah willpick up the phone. Noah. We'll
direct the phone call here and we'llspeak. No obligation, no cost,
no embarrassment. So give us acall if you wish. One in hundred

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undred three two one zero seven tenand one more secret. More secrets.
So on wr what's our schedule?Well, we're live from now till six
and then tomorrow from eleven am tonoon, from one to two, three
to four, every night at midnight. Every night at midnight you can tune
in Doctor Liderman. Many people liketo sleep with doctor Liderman. Many people

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like to work with Doctor Liderman.Many people like to listen every night at
noon, at midnight, from midnightto one am on WOR. And one
more thing, our schedule on Saturdays. So on Saturdays, our schedule is
one pm to two, three tofour, five to six every Saturday on
WRS. That's our schedule, andyou're welcome to call us, come in

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get information. Many people actually comeinto our office at thirteen eighty four Broadway
just to get package information for themselvesand their loved ones. And one more
thing, there's many things. Listeningto this show every day, you can
learn a lot, and you canlearn a lot about cancer. And if
you hear someone talking about cancer inthe grocery store or the supermarket or wherever,

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you might want to patter them onthe shoulder and say, hey,
you may want to see doctor Liedermanand learn about other options, other options.
And I can tell you that radiolisteners save lives. You can save
lives by passing on this information.Radio listeners save lives. My name is

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doctor Liederman, and I want totalk about a patient who's very important to
me. She's a sixty eight yearold woman. She's from Haiti, She's
a Black woman. She has breastcancer and should know that in the black
community, the death rate from breastcancer is about two hundred and fifty percent
higher other groups. And of coursewe take care of every race and religion
and sex you can possibly think of. We're talking about this black women because

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it's a heads up. She'd begetting mammograms, ultrasounds. You welcome to
come in for a breast check up. Many many women do. This woman
sad to say, didn't come fora breast checkout, but she came when
her cancer already spread, and sadto say, she had bilateral messedectomies.
When I came to New York,ninety seven percent of the women with breast

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cancer at the super booper places we'regetting mestectomies, where in my practice ninety
percent of women were keeping their breast. So why was it that the super
dupers ninety seven percent of women weregetting messedectomies, whereas we doctor Liederman,
ninety percent of women were keeping theirbreast. The women weren't different, the

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cancer wasn't different, but we wereoffering women all the choices and not pushing
people to have messed eectomies. Andshe actually had bilateral messed ectomies even though
she had cancer in one breast.So the doctor then pushed her to lose
both breasts, not even saving onebreast. So she came to me with

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bilateral mistectomies, breast cancer that alreadytraveled to her lungs. She had surgery,
she had treatment on her right breastfor cancer. The left breast were
just removed and there was no reason. There was no reason. So she
then had reconstruction. And I cantell you reconstruction is the wrong word,

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because it reconstruct means to redo whatwas already there. I can tell you,
for most women, the reconstruction doesnot look like her breast. It
may look like a lump that maybelooks better under the clothes, but in
reality, it's not her own breast. It's a lump that is designed,
I guess, to give the surgeonthings to do, and the woman the

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sense that there's something there, butit's not her breast, and usually,
like in this woman, they didnot keep her nip oreoal or complex.
So the sensation has gone, thefeeling's gone, the shape is gone,
and the money's gone because it's oftenvery expensive for reconstruction. Whereas women who
come here most commonly have their ownbreast, most women to come here do

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not have and do not want mestectomiesand do not want deforming surgery. So
she had surgery, and sad tosay, she was left with arm swelling,
armaedema, lymphidema, and she wasfound she was worked up elsewhere and
she was found to have cancer thatalready traveled. So she came to me

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with cancer that traveled and the lungand the lymphanodes in the super cloud area.
This is how she came to meand I examined her shed bilateral mestectomy.
She had lymphidemon the right arm,and usually when a woman has lymphidema
from surgery, it's forever. It'sa forever reminder of that surgery. And

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most likely she could have had noninvasive treatment with us, but sad to
say, her surgeon didn't tell her. Oh we'll remove both breasts, or
you can see doctor Liederman and havenon invasive treatment. She was never told.
She only learned about it when shecame here. So we restaged her
and we found cancer in her lung, cancer in her lymphodes, and we

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offered treatment. She had chemotherapy forher recurrent cancer, but like we talked
about before, chemotherapy at best onlyworks temporarily, works for weeks or months
and then the cancer comes back well. And her didn't work at all.
The cancer was growing, she hadside effects from the chemo. She didn't

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want more chemo. She was tornbecause she liked her doctor. She thought
a doctor was doing the right thing. And it's only when she came here
did she understand that what the doctorwas doing was giving chemo that was not
working, that the cancer was growing. And we got reimaging, We got
blood tests and physical exams and provedto her. We proved to her that

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the treatment she was getting elsewhere didnot work. And only then did sheefva
desire to start a relationship with ourtreatment. And we treated her to the
lung and the lymph nodes and shejust got new scans this week after being
treated here over a long period oftime and she's in remission. I remember,
with radiosurgery, about ninety percent chancethe cancer will never come back where

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we attacked it, whether it's inthe lung or the lymph nodes, which
is so different than chemo on immunotherapywhen essentially it always comes back. So
it's so different chemotherapy ormunotherapy for advancedor stage four cancer versus radiosurgery with a
high success rate, high quote oflife, few treatments done outpatient, usually

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with no side effects, well tolerated, and now long time later in remission,
doing well, fully active. Thisis the work that we do every
day at thirty ten eighty four Broadway, Broadway, thirty eighth Street in the
heart of New York City. Andwe'll talk about a woman who came years

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ago, also sixty six year oldwoman from Jamaica, married without children.
She came with her husband. Shehad history of diabetes, high blood pressure,
she had a kidney transplant, shehad a mass in her breast.
Remember, after a kidney transplant,a person's on immunotherapy, which suppresses the
immune system, which makes cancer morelikely. And after a kidney transplant on

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immune therapy, she up a breastcancer. She was seen at one of
the biggest hospitals. Perhaps she waspositive and she had no treatment. She
was offered chemotherapy elsewhere, which shedeclined. She did not want chemotherapy.
There was no redness in the breast, there was no distortion in the breast.
She weighs one hundred and eighty fourpounds. She's five foot six.

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She's not working. She used todo phlebotomy in one of the big hospitals.
She worked at one of the biggesthospitals in New York. But when
she got cancer, she decided tocome to doctor Liederman at thirty four Broadway
and I examined her and we foundthis cancer. She had a three and
f centimeter mass in the eleven o'clockposition at the left breast. There was

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no involvement of the lymph nodes.The skin was okay. She had this
left breast cancer three and f centimeterswhich you could feel. And this was
years ago. This is three yearsago. And she decided to have doctor
Leaderman with radiation radiosurgery and she wastreated non invasively with no cutting, no
bleeding, no distortion, and nowthree years later she is cancer free.

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That mass went away. She's hadscans, reports, blood tests, she's
in remission. There's no ovents ofcancer, and she's very happy that she
avoided radical surgery, and she's veryhappy she avoided chemo, and she's very
happy there's no scars in her breastand there's no distortion. This is the
work we do, a short courseof treatment for breast and other cancers.

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You may think, well, whatother cancers? Doctor Liederman treat well most
cancers, whether it's skin cancers orbrain cancers. Were the first in New
York with brain radio surgery, oneof the first in the world for decades,
treating brain tumors, throat cancers,lung cancers, lymphanode cancers, liver
pancreas, coldon cancers, castro intestinalcancers, kinacologic cancers. Primary cancers are

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comas cancers in the original site that'sthe primary site, or metastatic cancers or
lymphotes, lymphomas, so many totreat. You can get our booklet and
you can see the site. There'sa list of so many cancers that we
treat with an extensive knowledge and experience. And why do we have so much
experience? We have so much experiencebecause other places give treatment doesn't work.

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So often the chemotherapy or standard radiation, our surgery didn't work. Patients come
here and that's why we have somuch experience, so much with tens of
thousands of patients treated over decades.Doctor Liederman, thirty y four Broadway,
We'll be right back. Numbers meanmuch to me because of prostate cancer.

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I'm Johnny Bragg's. The number twofor my stepfather who died of prostate cancer
and my uncle who suffered so muchafter prostate cancer surgery. The number fifteen
fifteen years since doctor Liederman's successful treatmentof my prostate cancer. The number zero,
which is my PSA zero after doctorLiederman's successful prostate cancer treatment. What

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every man wants? The numbers one, two, three, four important for
every man with prostate cancer. Onegetting the most successful treatment, two avoiding
radical robotic surgery, three keeping sexualfunction, four maintaining urinary control. Call
my doctor Leederman two and two choicestwo and two choices to consider his prostate
cancer treatment for you. Most insurancesmedicare medicated accepted. Thirteen eighty four Broadway

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at thirty eighth called two and twochoices for prostate cancer treatment. Called doctor
Liederman two and two choices. I'mglad I did. You'll be number one
with doctor Liederman. It's doctor Liedermanspeaking with Lauren about lung cancer. You
were seen by a pulmonary doctor whowas insistent that they open up your chest.

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Yes, absolutely, and they sentyou to the lung surgeon and they
were insistent on cutting on you rightabsolutely, and would not accept me as
patient if I didn't do that.You're a nurse, you worked at some
of the biggest hospitals, and youjust didn't want your lung on chest opened
up and your lung thrown into thegarbage can right the bucket. Why Because

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at the super duper prooper I sawwhat happened, And what did you see
with doctor Liederman, the team andthe treatment. It's perfect. You have
the treatment and that cancer's gone away, right, it has. What would
you tell someone who's got cancer?Make your first up Doctor Liederman. For
more information call doctor Liederman two andtwo choices thirteen eighty four broad we have
thirty eighth We accept most insurances,Medicare, Medicaid called two and two choices

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for more information. Thousands treated overdecades. Welcome back to the Radio Surgery
Hour. This is Rob Redstone herewith doctor Gil Leiderman at the WR Studios
in the hearts of New York City, were just a few steps from the
Radio Surgery New York Cancer Treatment Centeron Broadway in thirty eighth Street. Doctor
Liederman, the leading cancer expert,treats prostate cancer not invasively. He was

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the first in New York with fractionatedbrain radio surgery, and he's the first
in America and in the Western Hemispherewith body radio surgery. You can also
call doctor Liederman at two and twoChoices for a free informative booklet and DVD.
Hey doctor Liederman, we're back.We're back, and we have Tony
on the line. How are youTony? Yeah, very good, Thank

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you. Okay, my chust team. Is this If you take a blood
post and a cancer marker shows upthe say for pancreatic cancer, prospect cancer,
breast cancer, Does that mean thatthat shows that you definitively have cancer,
let's say, for that particular partof your body. No, it

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doesn't show it can be. Firstof all, when tests are done,
there's a range that's to say forpancreas cancer, which is what you mentioned.
First, So CAA ninety nine isthe marker for pancreas cancer normally most
labs, but every lab has itsown range. Let's say in most labs
it goes up to thirty five,So zero to thirty five is normal.

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So let's just say have thirty sixor whatever, one hundred and thirty six.
That's out of range. So it'sworrisome, and we usually will repeat
it to see if there's a laboratoryair because there are laboratory errors, and
if it's repeated and it's abnormal,then we'd order tests. And the only
thing that's definitive is a biopsy,So what other So if it's if it's

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not, if it's not within theproper range, okay, you know,
then you'll say, well you knowyou don't have uh, there's no need
for any additional tests. Well no, First of all, you can have
cancer. We talked about earlier inthe show about prostate cancer normals considered up
to four and after four it's consideredsuspicious. But let's just look at it.

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I talked already about a man whosePSA went from two to eight.
Well, we don't know when hedeveloped cancer, but by the time he
got to eight. He had cancer. So I don't know if he added
at two or three or four orfive because he didn't have biopsies then.
But you could have a prostate cancerin a normal range. I have patients
if you get our video about prostatewhatever patients had a PSA that was three

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and his doctor said, oh,you have good news. Your PSA is
only three, and the patient remindedhim, hey, doctor, last year
it was one. It's tripled.And the patient insisted on having a biopsy.
This is Ralph. If you lookon their video of a prostate we'll
talk about Ralph. Ralph. He'sa very smart man. He documents everything.

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His PSA went from one to three. He said, doctor, my
psa triple. I want a biopsy, and he had a biops He had
cancer, and he came to metwenty years ago and was treated as cancer
cancer free. Currently it's PSA zero. We call him double O seven because
his PSA used to be double Oseven. Now it's even lower. So
you don't these these tests are onlysuggestions. They're not absolute. Do I

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think it's absolute? Is a positivebiopsy? All right? Okay? I
get it. Okay, that's myquestion for today. I thank you very
much. All right, God blessyou and thank you. We'll show all
the best and hope and everything isnormal. I want to talk about a
woman who comes to me wh's sixtytwo years old, born in Ecuador.
She has history of recto cancer anda version of the nippo, but she

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comes to me with a baso canceron her nose. She had a mose
surgery on her nose and now asanother cancer on the nose. It's probably
a failure of the mos. Mostis like an excavation of a skin cancer
for squamous sell or basil cell,and she had a basil cell on her

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nose and she had three mo's.It didn't work, and she just didn't
want more deformity on her nose.And so many people, actually thousands of
people with nose and skin cancers cometo us. The most common sight is
in sun exposed areas of the nose, the eyes, the mouth, the
lips, the ears, hands andfeet, but other areas also. If

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you have our skin cancer booklet,you'll see examples of skin cancers in almost
any part of the body. Andpeople come to us because they don't want
the deformity of radical surgery. Calledmos mohs and well, the sad per
se there's three million Americans who haveskin cancers, and sad to say most

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dermatologists dermatologists dermi is a lot orfor skin dermatologists means someone who studies are
surgeons, and so generally they recommendMoe's surgery. When I see people come
in my office, I see thepathology part, I see the notes of
the doctor says skin cancer, MOsurgery, skin cancer, see MO surgery.
It's almost like the patient doesn't havea chance to do anything else.

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Well, it's someone had most surgerythree times on her nose and it didn't
work, and she came to meand we treated her years ago. There's
now four years ago. We treatedher and she's cancer free with our treatment
when surgery didn't work. And somany people just don't want to have MO
surgery because it's so deforming. Inour booklet, you'll see examples of Moe's

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surgery, and you'll see examples ofour work before and after. And that's
why so many people want to comehere. Why because the treatment is non
invasive, no cutting, no bleeding, no deformity, outpatient painless and high
success rate and few treatments. Soit's very easy to understand why so many

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people come here for skin cancer treatment. This is the work we do every
day. And I want to talkabout on sixty two years old black man
from Haiti, and I say thatbecause of the Black community, one and
six half cancer of the prostate.One in twenty three would die of cancer.
We take care of of course,men and women and children, every

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race and religion and creating color.You could possibly imagine. This man came
to us years ago from Haiti.He had a biopsy, he had a
gleas in six PSA eight. Cancerwas seen by his primary doctor. He
was told by his doctors, don'tdo anything, don't worry. Well,
we'd worry when you understand that onein twenty three black men die of their

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prostate cancer. He wakes up twiceat night to yeurin eight. His weight
was one sixty five, same astwo years ago. As I was five
foot six. I examined him.He at a large process. We talked
about what it meant to have thiscancer. We talked about all the meaning
of it, and well he hada glease in six PSA eight. And
it's been ten years, ten yearsand now his PSA is zero, he's

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cancer free, he's happy. Hissex life works, his urinary life works.
This is the work that we doevery day at thirteen eighty four Broadway.
We have lots of information to sendyou. We have a book that's
Stevd's. It's always best to meetin person. I also want to talk
about an eighty six year old womanwith breast cancer. She had a very

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advanced cancer. She had a marketlydeformed breast seven centimeter mass, about the
size of a fist. There wasdeformity of the nipple, our alteration of
the skin. And she came tome years ago at age eighty six,
wanting treatment, and we talked aboutall the options Elsewhere they talked about chemo
surgery, just leaving her alone.Well, she wanted treatment that would be

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easy, non invasive and highly successful. And this is the work we did.
She's eighty six years old when shecame seven centimeter master deformity, now
four years later, cancer free.We have lots of information about breast cancer
to send you. Highly successful achievementwith no cutting, no bleeding, keeping
her breast. This makes her andher family and us all very very happy.

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If you have questions, caused twoand two choices. We accept most
insurances, Medicare, Medicaid. Youcan also walk in and get information at
thirteen eighty four Broadway. Thanks fortuning in to the Radio Surgery Hour with
doctor Gil Leiderman and myself. Ifyou have questions before next week's show or

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want a free informative booklet and DVD, just contact doctor Liederman at two one
two choices. That's two one twotwo four six four to two three seven.
That's two one two two four sixfour two three seven. For cancer

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treatment, most prefer effective, noninvasive, well tolerated outpatient therapy. That's
doctor Liederman, the radio surgery pioneer'sgoal too. Doctor Liederman is first in
America, first in New York,First for you with body radiosurgery. Doctor
Liederman hits your cancer with no cutting, no bleeding. Doctor Liederman has decades
of experience with primary and metastatic largeor small cancers. From head to toe

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cancer treatment with possibly a second chancefor you, meet doctor Liderman to hit
the cancer. He's New York's onlyHarvard trained, Triple Board certified radiation oncologist.
Call two one two choices to onetwo choices to meet doctor Liderman for
a fresh second opinion. Most insurances, Medicare, Medicaid accepted. Free booklet,
DVD two super Convenient Broadway in thirtyeighth and Manhattan, Meet doctor Liederman

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