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It was a delight that Harvard Law Professor meretis Professor
Alan Avi. There should I know Avi is a name
which he has to select people, but we like calling
his Hebrew name, so welcome back to the program. He's
a prolific author as well as new book just came
out about how to refute ten big Antaya Israel lies
at ten big anthe is real lies, and how to
refute them with the truth.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
What number book is that?
Speaker 6 (08:01):
This is the number fifty five, but it's the first
book I've ever written, which it's free. We're distributing it
free to a million college students on a thousand college campuses,
also high schools. So if any of you are interested
in a particular college, just get in touch with us
and we'll send free copies to be distributed to every student.
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We want to change the narrative on college campuses. We
want to expose the lies that the protesters are spewing,
and we want to and we want to encourage pro
Israel students to make the case for Israel based on
the truth.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So that book is free one million copies on college campuses,
which is amazing.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
It's a short book. It's only like eighty or ninety pages.
It's essentially a pamphlet. You can put it in your pocket.
And you know, every time somebody on a college campus says,
oh my god, Israel is it apartheid state? Or is
committing genocide? Hand them this. It has documented answers, undisputable answers,
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indisputable answers to these blood libels that are being circulated
on university campuses.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I want to get back to that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But you know, last time we had you on talking
about the elections, we had nine hundred and seventy thousand views,
actually under eighty thousand views on YouTube alone. When you
change from the Democratic Party where you left them. So
every time I go and they go, what is Alan
going to be voting for? Is he going to be
voting for Trump? Finally? So that's my question to you,
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Are you finally ready to make the commitment this short
time before election day?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
I'm not going to disclose my vote. I am going
to disclose that I have not endorsed a candidate. Really,
for the first time in many years, I have refused
to endorse Kamala Harris. I can't support her, and I
have not endorsed Donald Trump, and I'm not going to
disclose my vote. One of the reasons I'm not disclosing
my vote is there have really been threats and efforts
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to try to take out take recriminations against me and
my family if I vote a certain way, and so
I'm going to take advantage of the constitutional right of
every voter to cast a secret ballot. But I'm not
a Democrat. I'm going to vote for candidates based on
their particular merits, and I'm not going to vote for
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the Democrats in order to secure a Democratic majority in
the House or the Senate. No, I'm only going to
vote for which candidate is best for America, for world peace,
and for Israel. I am voting based on Hillal's admonition
and may not needly meely, I've spent most of my
life on the second part of that. If I am
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for myself alone, what am I I'm now becoming much
more a part of I'm going to vote in the
interests of American Jews, of Israeli Jews, of what I
believe are the principles and values that I've defended and
supported all of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So if I were you and I were is quoting you,
I said, you just set the case of why you
will be voting for Donald Trump, because Israel is the
paramount issue.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Make the case that I'm not going to disclose my vote.
I'm not going to endorse Donald Trump, but I'm not
going to endorse Kamala Harris. Look, Donald Trump has said
some things that I just don't agree with. Then what
I worry more about is Kamala Harris has and President
Biden has put restrictions on Israel. If not for the
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current administration, I think Israel would have bombed the nuclear
facilities and the oil facilities of Iran and would have
brought Iran to its knees. And Iran is now threatening
to retaliate against Israel because they know that Biden and
Harris will prevent Israel from responding. So under no circumstances
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can I support a Democratic victory or can I support
Harris in this election? But I have hesitations about endorsing
Trump as well, and I vote will be secret, all.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Right, but you're pretty much outline. Forgive me.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But by saying Israel, listen, nobody's perfect and Donald Trump,
you can say, I know you've heard you say you
like you don't like his domestica, John, you like the
Democrats at the agenda. But at the end of the day,
if Israel's paramount, people have no choice. Even the soakamer
rebbe who doesn't endorse candidates endorse Donald Trump just.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
The other day in Monroe, New York.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I understand that, and if I were a Hasidic rebbe,
I'd probably do the same thing because I have an
obligation and tell my harassidam who to vote for. But
I'm just an eighty six year old retired law professor
and I have to live with my wife and my family.
You know, my wife has voted for for Harris. My
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children I think will vote for for Harris. I am
an individual and I'll make up my own decision, but
I'm not going to disclose it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I can tell you wife who you voted for.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
You'll have to ask her.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
All right, well, next you about that. But no, it's
an interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But what bothers me, by the way, is that the
first that the Tim Watz is running for vice president
together with AOC and said he'd like to see a
Speaker of the House, which got very little attention.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But that's very worrisome.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Somebody like in AOC was so anti Israel is cozied
up to by somebody running for vice president. It disturbs
me greatly, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Stirbs me greatly. Look at Michael Moore. Michael Moore is
an out and out overt anti semi the guy who
wrote you know, me made those films. You should have
seen him on CNN today talking about Israel and killing
civilians and killing children, not a word about October seventh.
And Michael Moore is high up in the Democratic Party.
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And so if you vote with the Democrats, you're voting
for Michael Moore, you're voting for AOC, You're voting for
Bernie Sanders's turned out to be one of the most
self hating Jewish senators in modern history. And so I
agree with those who say they can't be associated with
the Democratic Party, cannot be associated with the Democratic Party.
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I can be associated with some members of the Democratic Party,
and I will vote for some members of the Democratic Party.
If I were in Massachusetts, I could not vote for
Liz Warren. In in New York, I would have a
problem voting for Chuck Schumer. He's been so hypocritical on
Israel and on Jewish issues. He calls himself, you know,
(14:25):
show Mahr, yes for Ale, But actually the word Schumer
is German, not Hebrew, and it means something very negative
in German, and it's not scho Mayher. He has not
been the show Mary yes forra Ale. He has been
the mayor Schumer.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, and Schulmer, you Schmiel.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Some people say, by the way, his recent statement to
the Columba University that they don't have to worry about
the Jewish students and ignore what's happening is getting a
lot of outrage.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
And it should and it should, and you know, let
him talk about it, and he hasn't talked about it. Look,
Schumer has always been everything to everybody. He was going
to vote for the iranio, but he got permission from
Biden to vote against it only after they had enough
votes to vote for it. He's been a hypocrite in
a phony for years. And you know, you have guys
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like James Carvell, who's an out and out bigot. James Carvell,
who's so active in the Democratic Party. He basically says,
if you're in favor of truth or if you're in
favor of due process, oh my god, that's going to
hurt the Democrats, and the Democrats have to win the election.
He is closer to having a kind of totalitarian ideology
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than anybody on the Republican Party. So I'm very worried
about people who are high up in the Democratic Party,
including as I said, Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders and
James Carvell. These are not good people.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
No, they're not.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And just even aos seeing all these people that are
getting really, like you said, at the Democratic National Conventure,
getting top billing. You know, if they don't say a
worried about is it's really raising their status. When they
do speak about Israel, it has more.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right, and so I urge
everybody who cares about Israel to quit the Democratic Party,
disassociate themselves in the Democratic Party, and then vote for
who you think is best for the country, but don't
vote along party lines. I mean, I'm the first person,
probably in the history of my family ever not to
be a Democrat, and including all the members of my
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current family. But go back to my parents and my grandparents,
there were all Democrats. But as Ronald Reagan said, he
didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.
You can't be in favor of AOC and Alan Durschwitz
at the same time. Sorry, no tent is big enough
for that. And I refuse to be in the tent
with Bernie Sanders, AOCIT, Liz Warren and the other Israel haters.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So does your family take it.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
If they find out, for example, that you voted for
Donald Trump, how will they take it?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Because you're gonna be the lone voice.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
They're not gonna find out. Look, they would like me
to have not only voted for Kamala Harris, but to
have endorsed Kamala Harris. I cannot do that and I
will not do that.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
By the way, have you gotten more? I mean, listen,
we had a lot of positive reaction when you were on.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Tomut leaving the Democratic Party, almost a million viewers and
forty four thousand likes, and I read a lot of
the comments. People are very supportive and they're saying it's
about time. You have a lot of support out there.
But what have you been finding since you made that
pronunciation and all likelihood will vote for Donald Trump? Have
you found people been receptive? Where more people have been
attacking you for attacking me?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Much much more attacking me over Look, the day I
defended Donald Trump, even though I voted against him and
I voted for his opponents. But when I defended Donald Trump.
For example, I was a very close friend to the
owner of the Boston Red Sox, John Henry, used to
invite me to his box. We spent election night together.
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When Obama won the election, he invited me on his vote.
He invited me the airplane. He always sat next to
me at baseball games. The day I defended Donald Trump
on the floor of the United States Sateity, he never
spoke to me again, never allowed me into the owner's
box at the Red Sox. And you know I'm still
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a resax man. By the way. Congratulations to all the
La Dodger fans, the old Brooklyn Dodger fans for winning
the World Series. This is the ring that the Brooklyn
Dodgers won in nineteen fifty five. This was Don Zimmer's
ring the year the Brooklyn Dodgers won the World Series,
the only time they've ever won the World Series. And
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as people from Borough Park will remember, I lived one
block away from Sandy Kofax. He lived on forty eighth
Street between fourteenth and fifteenth. I lived on boop of Boulevard,
which is forty eighth Street between fifteenth and sixteenth. But
of course I knew Sandy Kopax. Today, Hello to growing up.
And for my fifty fifth birthday, my wife managed to
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get Sandy Kopax to come to my house for dinner.
You know, I've been a Brooklyn Dodger fan for a
long time, and so congratulations to those Brooklyn Dodger fans
who were able to transfer the loyalty to Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I was never able to do that, But I didn't know.
Stanley of Kolfax lived in Borough Park.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
He was brought up in Bay Ridge, but he lived
between fifteenth and sixteenth Avenue and Borough Park. His father
had a little house, like a three family house, and
it had a sign in front irving Kofax Lawyer, taxa returns,
insurance policies, accidents. You know, he was a small town lawyer.
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But Sandy lived on my block. He played basketball at
the y on fourteenth Avenue between forty ninth and fiftieth Street,
although most of the time he spent in the y
in Bensonhurst, where he had gone to school. His parents
moved from Benz Nurse to Borough Park when he was
like a sophomore in high school. But he used to
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occasionally go to Temple Emmanuel in Borough Park, the Conserva Temple.
And of course we know he didn't pitch.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
On Young Keyport, but I guess you went to eight
time on thirteenth Avenue, and fiftieth Street right, I went.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
To eighth Cliam and I walked past Basically, I walked
past Urban Cofax's Loafing every day because I walked down
forty eighth Street until thirteenth and I turned left past
Miller's Appetizer and went to eighth Cliam, where I was
a bundit and where I got in trouble all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And of course that's not their Boroughpark has changed. Have
you've gone to Borough Park lately, you've seeing them to difference.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I still love eating on thirteenth Avenue of sixteenth Avenue,
but when I go to Borough Park, I feel like
a space alien because I don't look like everybody else,
and people look at me and they don't recognize me
because they don't watch television. For the most part, occasionally
somebody will come up to me. My mother lived in
Borough Park till the end of our life. She died
in ninety five, and people would come up to me
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sometimes Causeidon would say, ah Dershowitz, and my mother would say,
why did you watch them on television? You're not supposed
to watch television. How do you know who he is?
So yeah, now I go back to Borrow Park From
time time. I represent some people in Borough Park, some wonderful,
wonderful people from the Faciiti community, and so I go
there once or twice a year.
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Speaker 2 (27:18):
You're listening to Talkline with Zev Brenner, America's premier Jewish
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Speaker 9 (27:24):
And now here's your host.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Arias is Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Avidershowitz, and he's
written this fifty fifth book dealing with campuses and a
ten big anthonys relies how to refute them with the truth.
It's giving up one million free copies on campus itself.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
At the back of the book is a message to
young students, and I say, you are a fortunate generation,
far more fortunate than previous generations who were not in
a position to defend Israel in the Jewish community against
anti Semitism, anti Zionism, and unfair attacks on your heritage.
Innineteen thirty, students and others of your age did not
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have the power or the ability to speak up against Nazism.
But you have that power. Use it. Your professors won't
do it, your administrators, the presidents of the universities won't
do it. But you have the power to do it.
So you're a privileged generation. You have the power to
defend Israel and to defend the Jewish community.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
The promised professor is that a lot of students are
not really set up to be warriors for Israel.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
They should be warriors for Israel, and every Jew has
an obligation, every pro Israel person. By the way, many Christians,
many Christians are pro Israel, and they too have been
speaking out and should speak out. Look, a lot of
these kids on college campus that today have been so
brave they have been willing to get lower grades because
they get lower grades if they support Israel, Fewer recommendations
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and a lot of cancelation by friends. I have friends
of mine who have been told they've been turned down
from fraternities and sororities, and they haven't and allowed to
go here and there join clubs. Look at in Berkeley,
a state sponsored school Berkeley, California, thirteen clubs, including Black Club,
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a women's club, gay club, have said if you're a Zionist,
you can't speak in our club. Will be a member.
That's illegal. But that's what's happening to students at places
like the University of California.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
But you're also happening to book authors and you're having
to professors. Are Bernard Henry Leavey's book has been It's
an important book, but yet he didn't want to promote
it because he's Jewish.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
That's right. And you know I used to get promoted.
I used to get invited to speak at every college
and the university. Today they're not inviting me. But you
know what I've done with this book. I have agreed
to speak free on Zoom at any college and any
university that wants me to speak. And I will be
speaking at the University of Pennsylvania, I will be speaking
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at Yale. I will be speaking by Zoom to Harvard
students and alumni. So you want me to speak at
your college or university, just call and arrange with my
office and I will speak free of charge by zoom.
If it's local, I can do it in person if
the school will have me. Schools say, oh no, we
can't have Drschwitz. The security needs are too great. We
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have to have too many policemen because people are threatening
to kill him if he speaks on our campus.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Which is crazy. Free speech has been stifled.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Speak at Brooklyn College. I went to Brooklyn College. I'm
probably the best known graduate of Brooklyn College. I cannot
speak there about Israel. You know what they told me
when I was invited by a small Jewish group to
speak there. We don't need another Israeli speaker. We've already
had Norman Finkelstein. Wow, so they won't let me speak
at Brooklyn College.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Let me ask a question.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
If a student club invites you, they don't have the
right to have you speak to a private to a club.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You know, it may be fun about university.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I know in Columbia they say, well, you know, we
had an anti Yusuel speaker, but it was a group,
a chapter of some organizations that had it, So why
does not hold for Brooklyn College?
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Schools have rules that will not allow student groups to
invite without the approval of X, Y and Z. So
I was invited by the University of California at Berkeley
and they tried to cancel it. I threaten to bring
a lawsuit, and they allowed me to speak. But I
have not been allowed to speak at Brooklyn College, or
at City University, or at Hunter College, or at any
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of the news And by the way, when I was
invited to speak at Yeshiva University, Yeshiva University, Cardoza Law School,
there were efforts to try to stop me from speaking.
In the front row, there were students, mostly minority students,
but there were some others with signs saying why do
we allow a rapist to speak in our school? A
child molestor This goes back to the false accusation that
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was withdrawn by a woman who admitted that she may
have confused me and mistaken me for somebody else. But
when it comes to speaking about Israel, it doesn't matter.
Even James Carvel brought that issue up when he attacked
me for defending Donald Trump's rights in court. He brought
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that up, and so people bring up that fake issue,
which has been withdrawn with an admission by the woman
herself that she may have mistaken me for somebody else.
But that becomes the excuse at Cardoza Law School. And
then the dean of Cardoza Law School, sponsored by Yeshiva University,
took the part of the students rather than the part
of the speaker.
Speaker 14 (32:26):
She did not.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Defend my right to free speech. She defended the right
of the students to defame me. And that's Cardoza Law School.
Can you imagine how it must be in other law schools.
Let me tell you it's a lot better at Catholic
schools than it is a Jewish schools.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Unfortunately, that's to be the case.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Did you try suing the woman for monetary damages, the
one who claimed that you were involved with Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
She had to recant, of course, my.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Suit of for monetary damages, and then she withdrew her
lawsuit and admitted that she may have made it up,
and so I dropped my lawsuit as well. So that
cases over.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
But you don't want to pursue it.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Just a teacher a lesson, Well, you know, I have
better things to do to spend my time. But if
anybody does accuse me now, I will I will sue them.
I have photographs of the people who held up those
signs at Cardoza, and I'm thinking about the possibility of
bringing lawsuits. And I am bringing lawsuits against some anti
Israel people who have brought that issue up and tried
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to use it as a way of discrediting me on Israel.
So I'm going to be pretty proactive in making sure
that people can't use that against me when I defend Israel.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Now, one time on this program, professor you mentioned that
the best way to create anti semis is to sue them.
Has he had any progress getting a codre of lawyers
to sue those that are engaged in anti Semitic activity.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Well, only anti Semitic acts, and so the organization was
called Hurt a Jew. We sue you, and I do
have some lawyers who are prepared. And so if you
know anybody who has been attacked, physically attacked. We're not
talking about speeches, just physically attack, whether it be in
Crown Heights or in Manhattan or anywhere else, call me
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and you can call you and you'll put me in
touch with them, and we will file lawsuits on behalf
of anybody who's been hurt because they're Jewish. Because prosecutors
don't bring these cases for the most part, they let
them drop. But if it's a civil lawsuit, you can't
make us drop it.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
By the way, what do you think about the legal
woes that New York City Mayor Eric Adams is facing.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Well, he's presumed innocent. I want to hear the evidence,
so I want to see what it looks like. You know,
it's so easy to bring lawsuits these days, and even
to bring indictments. Look at the indictment against Donald Trump,
which resulted in the conviction for something that isn't a crime.
You know, I've been teaching and writing about criminal office
sixty years. I think I know the subject pretty well.
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And I can't understand the charges against Donald Trump in
the New York case. And so we'll have to wait
and see what the with the Adams case springs about you.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
So, when I mentioned that fact to a New York,
prominent New York Democratic lawyer, very prominent, he said, oh,
Allen dors Was he's like so into Trump that he's
ignoring the law.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Well, first of all, I'm not at the Trump I've
never voted for Trump in my life. And second of all,
I'm into the law, and I challenge him put him
on the show with me. I challenge him to explain
to anybody what the charges against them are. I don't
understand those charges. They're just not there. They're made up.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I think that'll be a future program where we can discuss.
Is happy to do it, Surriv. It's always a pleasure
to have you on the air with us.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
You do a great job, and I'm so always pleased
to be on and keep calling me Avi. You know,
all my old friends from Bura Parks still call me Avi.
My friend Carl, I've only known him now for about
eighty four years. Our parents walked us together in Williamsburg
in a baby carriage. Is that's how long I've known Carl.
And he called me today. We're going to have lunch
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on Sunday and he said, hey, Avy, how are you.
As soon as people say Avi, I know how long
they've known me for.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And I think you have the Calman family in the
Upper West Side Manhattan, and go back with you.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Yeah. Her calls me Ave all the time, and Ira
writes to me all the time and says, how can
you be supporting Trump? How can you be supporting Trump?
Speaker 5 (36:16):
You know?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
So I fight with a lot of my old friends.
I think of my eight old friends, seven of whom
are so alive. I think too probably for Trump. One
won't disclose me, and the others are all for or
all for Harris.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
But they still talk to you. That's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
They, unlike the people on Martin's Vineyard, are the owner
of the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Wow, seame you can't sue them, right, I don't want.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
To sue them. I want to just have marketplace of
ideas open to everybody, so everybody's views can be heard.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
That's going out the window in America.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
It's going out the window. And I think if the
Democrats win, it'll go out the window more. They are
the party refreshed. James Carvel in a post talks about
how terrible it is that people are interested in the truth.
People like me are interested in the truth, are interested
in process instead of just having the Democrats win. That's
what so many on the hard left of the Democratic
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Party are in favor. They're much closer to a totalitarian
mindset than people on the right.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Absolutely, it's fascism of the left.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Well, I don't like to use the term fascism, but
cotalitarianism is a good term. You know, Nazi analogies. What
the Nazis did was so much worse than anything. People
who compare you know, Trump to Hitler or the Republicans
to Nazis are essentially how kaust deniers. They're saying that
what happen between nineteen forty one nineteen forty five is
no worse than what's going on today, and that's wrong.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
It's throwing out the garbage. That's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
It's throwing out to see instead of fighting on ideas,
that fighting on saying this person's a hit lerrys a demon,
This follows a garbage.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's not the way to really conduct it.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
As you're engaged in too much name calling both sides.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Professor, I'm looking for it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Will you disclose your vote after the election, we'll see,
all right, keep on doing what you're doing for this
or people say they admire you how you keep on
such a strong support order of visual keep it up
your latest book, they can get it's dealing with college campuses.
It's called the ten big antheors relies and how to
refute them with the truth.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
With the truth free, free of sure free.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
If it's free, I'll take two professors.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
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Speaker 3 (39:12):
And we're back, and I'll have maya seliment because in
Long Island now we round hard working twenty five years
in public service. Long Beach, Lego Beach, Atlantic Beach, five towns.
So good to have you on the program. Thank you
for joining us, Thanks for having me. You know, I'm
curious because I into a lot of the Orthodox Jewish legislators.
You're the only exception that's the republic Everybody else is
a Democrat, simple Eisenstein, Kaman yegor Simka Felder.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
You had the lone Republican in the group.
Speaker 14 (39:37):
Some of them are assembly people. Yet I'm the first,
uh and only Republican or Didston state history, and that's
a very sad comment You know, I'm the very first
elected official on Long Island to wear iyamica a quarter
of a century ago. That's also a very sad commentary.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Here's the thinking, because I heard we just had a
conversation with Dove Hiking, former of Sliman Democratics and now Republican.
I'm thinking is is some of the rabbi, some of
the leaders, say well, we have to vote democratic on
local elections because they're going to bring home the bacon.
They're going to bring home the money the community. Republicans
can do that. So the vote republican the national rights,
but the vote democratic locally.
Speaker 14 (40:13):
What do you say to that, Well, it's specifically talking
in the Assembly, I would say it is the rabb
i should mostly take their yamucha's off because the hill
of hush em that they're causing is monumental. I've been
in office a quarter of a century. If you haven't
come to Cedarhurst, then you really haven't participated in any
major Jewish event. What do I mean by that? I've
been in office. I know all our assembly people for
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the past. I'm here thirty three years. I've never seen
my assembly people. They're nice people, very nice people. I
have never received a penny in the village of Cedars
I'm still the deputy mayor there. Ever, you haven't given
it to Cedarhurst, you haven't given it anywhere. Let's see,
I just built a pick a bull court and Seedarhurst.
I just gave one hundred thousand dollars to Long Beach
City Hall. I just gave one hundred and fifty thousand
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dollars to Island Park. Each one of my libraries gets
tens of thousands of dollars plate reader cameras to ocean side.
I can go on forever. You know what I've gotten
from my assembly people in the last thirty years zero,
So whatever they're saying isn't true. And I got to
tell you something else. I'm the if you look at
the other side of the Island Assembly, they don't show up,
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so I know who's voting for what, and I know
who's having the speaker press the button for them. When
you're wearing a yamack on your head and you're voting
for prop one, things that are not only anti American,
by anti Tora, I tell the Rabbis do your research
and shame on you for supporting anti Torah values periods.
I'm the only one that's not it.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
You mentioned prop one.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I know that a lot of people are a post
to tell Aridon what it's all about and what's so
dangerous about prop one.
Speaker 14 (41:44):
Prop one is a very sinister proposition where they're trying
to paint it as an abortion issue, but if you
read it, it really doesn't say that. It's really an
end run on a number of things. Number One, you
can't discriminate against somebody for their residency In other words,
if you're a legal migrants carte blanche, you're gonna get
every bill paid for you. Age discrimination, well, this is
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a big one that my colleagues and rabbis listen have
all supported. What does that mean if a man wants
to sleep with a twelve year old boy, you can't
discriminate against them. The whole pedophilia issue is opened up
with this. Every tora of value is being broken by
this proposition. Besides being a very anti American in every
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single way, when Newsday votes against it, says it is
not supporting it, you know that's pretty bad. You know,
I'm the son of a Holocaust survivor, my mother and grandmother,
and I remember as a kid always hearing the real stories.
You know, my generation, our generation, the Holocaust was right there.
It was an ancient history, and we all said to ourselves,
we would have hidden in frank and we would have
been the shindler. But you know what, we had this
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opportunity when it came to COVID recently. My grandmother would
make matz out of dust and these robuttum shut shools down.
This is the time for them to be shindler and
stand up for what's right. Not colleagues who support every
anti Torah value. Shameful.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
So do you have conversation with the rabbis in the
community about this issue?
Speaker 14 (43:12):
Again, all those rabbis on those I never heard of
them because they really one or two they never really
get involved in the community. A few of the big
ones I've heard, I think they're just misguided because what
they do is, I say, why do you I've spoken
to w what do you do as well? You know
we're not going to get our funding for a hull
of modes. Took this project, I said, rabbis or to
my colleagues. If all this is about about getting two
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or three hundred thousand dollars for a Holla mode event
or some Jewish festival last the day, shame on you.
I put it into something for the entire community, for infrastructure,
something that will last a lifetime. Whether I just gave
money to put together a mobile library for the Peninsula
Public Library that not only stays the Jewish people, that
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serves all people, a one off for a holiday. If
that's what you're looking for and not looking at the
big picture, they say, well, the majority, Well guess what
if the few yamakas on the other side of the
aisle will come to my side. We get rid of
the supermajority, the the person that stands up for Torah
and Jewish value. Isn't it shameful that the rabbis say
to support the people who are part of the put,
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part of AOC, the squad, Thalibs, the Omars.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Be supporting democratic candidates.
Speaker 14 (44:23):
Is that what you're reporting democratic candidates? In any way,
you're supporting that party. When my colleague and now with
the Congressman Mike Lawler, wanted to have a resolution and
you hatred day and that couldn't come to the floor,
but Menstrual hygien Day was lorded. That day is the
greatest piece of legislation. And my colleagues said nothing. I
have six bills in the Assembly on anti Semitism and
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that one yamaka is standing with me. But every non
Jewish stay with me on these hills. Why because they're
afraid of the speaker and they're afraid of the DSA.
These are the Jews that the rabbis are supporting. They're wonderful, kid,
I like them all. They're really wonderful. I can't say
one bad thing about those colleagues. They're the nicest kids.
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But you know what, it's misguided and it's shameful. It's
time to stand up for the Jewish people.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
You caucus at all with the other Orthodox Jewish legislators.
Speaker 14 (45:16):
I asked them to. I'm the one that writes the bills.
I say, right away. Please, here's a letter I'm writing
to a university president. Please sign on. Here's a bill,
six bills, please sign on.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Here.
Speaker 14 (45:29):
I'm having a press conference on the million dollar staircase. Nothing.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
What do they tell you?
Speaker 14 (45:34):
They don't you know, I'm not gonna get my funding.
We have to bring back the bacon. Even that a
Jew is saying bring back the bacon just shows you
how anti Tora values this is about. Is it about
a money for a one off thing, or to deliver
for the entire Jewish people? I say, be it proud
jew come to the side that supports the Jewish people,
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not the party of the AOCS, not the party of
the kou kux Klan, not the body of the segregationists.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
But but now you know there was a movement underway,
and we spoke about it on the area you're well
aware of it. Where they're saying too orthodox shoes especially.
You know you want to vote Republican, but at least
be a registered Democrat because all the interesting races and
primary races are in the Democratic Party. You have more
influence by being a Democrat. And vote Republican if you like,
but stay in the party.
Speaker 14 (46:23):
Again, it's the question of a ghanav a Goslin. You
know you want to steal at night, and you're not
afraid of God, be a robber during the day. God's
more accepting of something like that. Be a proud Jew.
People say you didn't grow up religious, but you always
were a keeper. You know why you wear a kipa
because they didn't want me to be the proud Jew.
Twenty four to seven. Not when it's convenient, not for you,
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for any type of maneuvers. Come to our side. Eventually
we'll get the majority again. At least we'll get rid
of the supermajority right away. What they can't stand on
their own merit. Only through having the D in front
will they be voted for. They shouldn't be in office.
And again they are all the nicest kids, every one
of them, but they do the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Let's get personal. You said you mentioned that you weren't
wars observant. What made you decide to become more involved
politically and also religiously.
Speaker 14 (47:14):
The funny story, I used to be very smart, but
I lost a lot of brain cells over the years.
I graduated. I just turned sixteen from high school. I
wasn't old enough to drive to school. I know how
to go to college at night. I went to Israel
for the year. When I came home, my parents became religious.
I said, I think you got a little backwards. I
was suused to.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
But anyway, why did they become religious because you went
to Israel?
Speaker 14 (47:33):
Well, they had a you know whatever it was. And
my parents never missed dobbining Minka Mara over. My mother lectured.
My mother was a very just passed away as a
very famous lecture on Holocaust studies. My mother and grandmother
are Italian Jews. It's a very famous story. In a
book called Haven, you can read about this story. But politics,
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Mayor Parisi called me twenty five twenty six years ago
our computer ponyboard, and you know, so on and so forth,
and it led to other things. I used to be
the vice share of the Townehampstad Industrial Development Agency, but
I always said no to bigger office because my seven kids,
they're all grown now. If they were up, I wanted
to be home. I went on every school trip. I
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was the class mother for five of my seven kids.
If they're awake, I'm gonna be there. I'm never going
to miss a day. And that's why I got great kids.
Thank good.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
So now that the kids are older, any plans where
you look for a higher position.
Speaker 14 (48:27):
Listen, every person makes this mistake. Whether you're a mayor
or a governor or a president of United States, you
know what it means. It means nothing. It means nothing.
People forget about you the next day when you know,
for whatever reason, it's what you do for a fellow person.
I had the opportunity recently. They I got to call, Hey, Ai,
you matched for someone for kidney donation. I said, let's
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do it. You said, you don't want to ask if
he's from or not from. I said, if anybody have
to ask you that, don't take the kidney from them.
Shame on them. I don't care who it is with
doing it. Turned out I donated a kidney to a
purple heart veteran wonderful fellow. Wow, you do because you
do that for any higher office. I would never want
higher office. And I'll tell you why. We have the
best congressman in Anthony Di Esposito, and I have a wonderful,
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wonderful Senator and Senator Patricia Cansinarry Fitzpatrick. They are phenomenal.
They are my partners in every which way. And just
for the Rabbis again, talk about democrats in office. Very
few people have been in office as long as I've been.
I walked over on jantif to the Lawrence Country Club.
There was an event a long beach Latino Civic Association.
This lady comes over to me. You see me in
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the five pounds because she read the article on the
post where I apparently said she wasn't. I said, I apologize,
Who are you? I'm sorry, I'm Laura Gillan. I said, oh, well,
we never met. I'm in office twenty five years and
I used to be the vice chair. You're bored and
we never met. Kind of tells you that there's a problem.
But I'll tell you what. I have a congressman that
I've always seen every single day. That's Anthony di Esposito.
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So you know what, I have never seen my Democrat colleagues.
Ever in my village of Cedar, I said, you know what,
I'm the shopping district of the south through along Island.
Everything in the five pounds revolves around my park. If
I haven't seen you there, shame.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
On you times in. This has a tough election re
election battle.
Speaker 14 (50:08):
Doesn't that tough? Wherever you go? He's beloved. They did
a poll and the poll excluded the entire five pounds.
They did it ober Yant, so eighteen and a half
percent of the electorate wasn't included.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I did it, really? They did it over of course
they did it.
Speaker 14 (50:22):
And this is who the rabbis, these particular rabbis and
my Democrat colleagues are supporting. It's time to be good Jews.
You did screw up with this. It's time to be
proud Jews and not cower from the DSA. Why did
they do it? We had a not on my dime
bill that they wanted to put on the floor to
Carl Hasty's credits. He didn't let it come to committee.
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But one of them should speak out. I have a
press conference that I invited all of them. In other words,
any any non for profit that would support Israel, you know,
should be excluded from any funding in the state. Not
one of my Democrat colleagues should stand with me. Every
non Jew and never non firm stood with me. This
is what we need to cower. Why because they're afraid
the Democrats Socialists will primary them. I had a wonderful
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colleague who was in charge of the Chaman of people
with disabilities, claiming Liberal they primary them, knocked them out,
and they're all worried about Are we worried as Jews
to have badges on our chest or to do the
right thing as Americans, the Yorkers and the Jewish people.
I don't know. My father taught me the right way,
you know. I always stated the rabbis, you know, you
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should have a class. The class should be called how
to be a gentleman? One oh one, and everything else follows.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
From there, and its how to be a men's right,
that's it, how to be a mens. It's not taught
before I let you. How's your re election campaign coming along?
Speaker 14 (51:42):
Wonderful?
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Thank God?
Speaker 14 (51:44):
You know you say, wow, you got Long Beach. You know,
we knocked out the wind turbines that were going to
destroy Long Beach. Mic my opponents that used to be
a very nice lady. First supported it. Now she's saying
she didn't support it. She's not supported because she used
to be on the town the city council. I told
them you better get off of it because your whole
community is gonna come out against you. And they removed
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her from the board. Very nice lady, though, I have
to say, she's been very you know, but they were
going to dig up fats of burbines blocking everything.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Thank you, yell, I'm Trump campaign for you.
Speaker 14 (52:16):
I know.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Speaker Johnson was with you the other night, right at.
Speaker 14 (52:18):
Dinner last night with the Speaker Johnson. What a man,
what a fine person. I have to tell you, I
really honored to be with him last night. Really was
an absolute honor. We got a great slate supporters of
the Jewish people across the board. Can we say that
about the Democrats? My fellow rabbis, why are you supporting
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a party, even if it's a single candidate, that is
the party that calls for the destruction of state of Israel?
Tell me, I'm gonna give everybody the answer. It's the
story of Loats. When Abram sends the Melachem to Sidome
and the Stamites around the house. What does loads say,
take my virgin daughters, do what you will with them,
but let me save these people. That's the sickness that
(53:02):
goes to the head. Let the world love me, give
me a bitch, wake up.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
You get blowback from the Rabbi by speaking up your
mind and saying calling them to the task.
Speaker 14 (53:10):
I'm one of the oldest state legislators. If you don't
want to vote for me for that because I'm standing
up for the Jewish people, then God will do what
he wants to do.
Speaker 9 (53:17):
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Speaker 3 (53:17):
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You're not afraid to speak your mind, which I like
you say the way you see it, which is a mile.
In today's day and age, too many people are afraid
to take a position.
Speaker 14 (53:28):
Like I said. You know, I'm one of the oldest
state legislators. I can't speak my mind at this point,
and you.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
Can't do it. I mean selling me and Auri Brown,
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It was a delight that Harvard Law Professor meretis Professor
Alan Avi. There should I know Avi is a name
which he has to select people, but we like calling
his Hebrew name, so welcome back to the program. He's
a prolific author as well as new book just came
out about how to refute ten big Antaya Israel lies
at ten big anthe is real lies, and how to
refute them with the truth.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
What number book is that?
Speaker 6 (08:01):
This is the number fifty five, but it's the first
book I've ever written, which it's free. We're distributing it
free to a million college students on a thousand college campuses,
also high schools. So if any of you are interested
in a particular college, just get in touch with us
and we'll send free copies to be distributed to every student.
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We want to change the narrative on college campuses. We
want to expose the lies that the protesters are spewing,
and we want to and we want to encourage pro
Israel students to make the case for Israel based on
the truth.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So that book is free one million copies on college campuses,
which is amazing.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
It's a short book. It's only like eighty or ninety pages.
It's essentially a pamphlet. You can put it in your pocket.
And you know, every time somebody on a college campus says,
oh my god, Israel is it apartheid state? Or is
committing genocide? Hand them this. It has documented answers, undisputable answers,
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indisputable answers to these blood libels that are being circulated
on university campuses.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I want to get back to that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But you know, last time we had you on talking
about the elections, we had nine hundred and seventy thousand views,
actually under eighty thousand views on YouTube alone. When you
change from the Democratic Party where you left them. So
every time I go and they go, what is Alan
going to be voting for? Is he going to be
voting for Trump? Finally? So that's my question to you,
(09:33):
Are you finally ready to make the commitment this short
time before election day?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
I'm not going to disclose my vote. I am going
to disclose that I have not endorsed a candidate. Really,
for the first time in many years, I have refused
to endorse Kamala Harris. I can't support her, and I
have not endorsed Donald Trump, and I'm not going to
disclose my vote. One of the reasons I'm not disclosing
my vote is there have really been threats and efforts
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to try to take out take recriminations against me and
my family if I vote a certain way, and so
I'm going to take advantage of the constitutional right of
every voter to cast a secret ballot. But I'm not
a Democrat. I'm going to vote for candidates based on
their particular merits, and I'm not going to vote for
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the Democrats in order to secure a Democratic majority in
the House or the Senate. No, I'm only going to
vote for which candidate is best for America, for world peace,
and for Israel. I am voting based on Hillal's admonition
and may not needly meely, I've spent most of my
life on the second part of that. If I am
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for myself alone, what am I I'm now becoming much
more a part of I'm going to vote in the
interests of American Jews, of Israeli Jews, of what I
believe are the principles and values that I've defended and
supported all of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So if I were you and I were is quoting you,
I said, you just set the case of why you
will be voting for Donald Trump, because Israel is the
paramount issue.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Make the case that I'm not going to disclose my vote.
I'm not going to endorse Donald Trump, but I'm not
going to endorse Kamala Harris. Look, Donald Trump has said
some things that I just don't agree with. Then what
I worry more about is Kamala Harris has and President
Biden has put restrictions on Israel. If not for the
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current administration, I think Israel would have bombed the nuclear
facilities and the oil facilities of Iran and would have
brought Iran to its knees. And Iran is now threatening
to retaliate against Israel because they know that Biden and
Harris will prevent Israel from responding. So under no circumstances
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can I support a Democratic victory or can I support
Harris in this election? But I have hesitations about endorsing
Trump as well, and I vote will be secret, all.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Right, but you're pretty much outline. Forgive me.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But by saying Israel, listen, nobody's perfect and Donald Trump,
you can say, I know you've heard you say you
like you don't like his domestica, John, you like the
Democrats at the agenda. But at the end of the day,
if Israel's paramount, people have no choice. Even the soakamer
rebbe who doesn't endorse candidates endorse Donald Trump just.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
The other day in Monroe, New York.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I understand that, and if I were a Hasidic rebbe,
I'd probably do the same thing because I have an
obligation and tell my harassidam who to vote for. But
I'm just an eighty six year old retired law professor
and I have to live with my wife and my family.
You know, my wife has voted for for Harris. My
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children I think will vote for for Harris. I am
an individual and I'll make up my own decision, but
I'm not going to disclose it.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I can tell you wife who you voted for.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
You'll have to ask her.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
All right, well, next you about that. But no, it's
an interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But what bothers me, by the way, is that the
first that the Tim Watz is running for vice president
together with AOC and said he'd like to see a
Speaker of the House, which got very little attention.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But that's very worrisome.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Somebody like in AOC was so anti Israel is cozied
up to by somebody running for vice president. It disturbs
me greatly, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Stirbs me greatly. Look at Michael Moore. Michael Moore is
an out and out overt anti semi the guy who
wrote you know, me made those films. You should have
seen him on CNN today talking about Israel and killing
civilians and killing children, not a word about October seventh.
And Michael Moore is high up in the Democratic Party.
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And so if you vote with the Democrats, you're voting
for Michael Moore, you're voting for AOC, You're voting for
Bernie Sanders's turned out to be one of the most
self hating Jewish senators in modern history. And so I
agree with those who say they can't be associated with
the Democratic Party, cannot be associated with the Democratic Party.
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I can be associated with some members of the Democratic Party,
and I will vote for some members of the Democratic Party.
If I were in Massachusetts, I could not vote for
Liz Warren. In in New York, I would have a
problem voting for Chuck Schumer. He's been so hypocritical on
Israel and on Jewish issues. He calls himself, you know,
(14:25):
show Mahr, yes for Ale, But actually the word Schumer
is German, not Hebrew, and it means something very negative
in German, and it's not scho Mayher. He has not
been the show Mary yes forra Ale. He has been
the mayor Schumer.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, and Schulmer, you Schmiel.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Some people say, by the way, his recent statement to
the Columba University that they don't have to worry about
the Jewish students and ignore what's happening is getting a
lot of outrage.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
And it should and it should, and you know, let
him talk about it, and he hasn't talked about it. Look,
Schumer has always been everything to everybody. He was going
to vote for the iranio, but he got permission from
Biden to vote against it only after they had enough
votes to vote for it. He's been a hypocrite in
a phony for years. And you know, you have guys
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like James Carvell, who's an out and out bigot. James Carvell,
who's so active in the Democratic Party. He basically says,
if you're in favor of truth or if you're in
favor of due process, oh my god, that's going to
hurt the Democrats, and the Democrats have to win the election.
He is closer to having a kind of totalitarian ideology
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than anybody on the Republican Party. So I'm very worried
about people who are high up in the Democratic Party,
including as I said, Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders and
James Carvell. These are not good people.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
No, they're not.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And just even aos seeing all these people that are
getting really, like you said, at the Democratic National Conventure,
getting top billing. You know, if they don't say a
worried about is it's really raising their status. When they
do speak about Israel, it has more.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
You're absolutely right, You're absolutely right, and so I urge
everybody who cares about Israel to quit the Democratic Party,
disassociate themselves in the Democratic Party, and then vote for
who you think is best for the country, but don't
vote along party lines. I mean, I'm the first person,
probably in the history of my family ever not to
be a Democrat, and including all the members of my
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current family. But go back to my parents and my grandparents,
there were all Democrats. But as Ronald Reagan said, he
didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him.
You can't be in favor of AOC and Alan Durschwitz
at the same time. Sorry, no tent is big enough
for that. And I refuse to be in the tent
with Bernie Sanders, AOCIT, Liz Warren and the other Israel haters.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So does your family take it.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
If they find out, for example, that you voted for
Donald Trump, how will they take it?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Because you're gonna be the lone voice.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
They're not gonna find out. Look, they would like me
to have not only voted for Kamala Harris, but to
have endorsed Kamala Harris. I cannot do that and I
will not do that.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
By the way, have you gotten more? I mean, listen,
we had a lot of positive reaction when you were on.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Tomut leaving the Democratic Party, almost a million viewers and
forty four thousand likes, and I read a lot of
the comments. People are very supportive and they're saying it's
about time. You have a lot of support out there.
But what have you been finding since you made that
pronunciation and all likelihood will vote for Donald Trump? Have
you found people been receptive? Where more people have been
attacking you for attacking me?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Much much more attacking me over Look, the day I
defended Donald Trump, even though I voted against him and
I voted for his opponents. But when I defended Donald Trump.
For example, I was a very close friend to the
owner of the Boston Red Sox, John Henry, used to
invite me to his box. We spent election night together.
(17:53):
When Obama won the election, he invited me on his vote.
He invited me the airplane. He always sat next to
me at baseball games. The day I defended Donald Trump
on the floor of the United States Sateity, he never
spoke to me again, never allowed me into the owner's
box at the Red Sox. And you know I'm still
(18:14):
a resax man. By the way. Congratulations to all the
La Dodger fans, the old Brooklyn Dodger fans for winning
the World Series. This is the ring that the Brooklyn
Dodgers won in nineteen fifty five. This was Don Zimmer's
ring the year the Brooklyn Dodgers won the World Series,
the only time they've ever won the World Series. And
(18:35):
as people from Borough Park will remember, I lived one
block away from Sandy Kofax. He lived on forty eighth
Street between fourteenth and fifteenth. I lived on boop of Boulevard,
which is forty eighth Street between fifteenth and sixteenth. But
of course I knew Sandy Kopax. Today, Hello to growing up.
And for my fifty fifth birthday, my wife managed to
(18:57):
get Sandy Kopax to come to my house for dinner.
You know, I've been a Brooklyn Dodger fan for a
long time, and so congratulations to those Brooklyn Dodger fans
who were able to transfer the loyalty to Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I was never able to do that, But I didn't know.
Stanley of Kolfax lived in Borough Park.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
He was brought up in Bay Ridge, but he lived
between fifteenth and sixteenth Avenue and Borough Park. His father
had a little house, like a three family house, and
it had a sign in front irving Kofax Lawyer, taxa returns,
insurance policies, accidents. You know, he was a small town lawyer.
(19:36):
But Sandy lived on my block. He played basketball at
the y on fourteenth Avenue between forty ninth and fiftieth Street,
although most of the time he spent in the y
in Bensonhurst, where he had gone to school. His parents
moved from Benz Nurse to Borough Park when he was
like a sophomore in high school. But he used to
(19:56):
occasionally go to Temple Emmanuel in Borough Park, the Conserva Temple.
And of course we know he didn't pitch.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
On Young Keyport, but I guess you went to eight
time on thirteenth Avenue, and fiftieth Street right, I went.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
To eighth Cliam and I walked past Basically, I walked
past Urban Cofax's Loafing every day because I walked down
forty eighth Street until thirteenth and I turned left past
Miller's Appetizer and went to eighth Cliam, where I was
a bundit and where I got in trouble all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And of course that's not their Boroughpark has changed. Have
you've gone to Borough Park lately, you've seeing them to difference.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
I still love eating on thirteenth Avenue of sixteenth Avenue,
but when I go to Borough Park, I feel like
a space alien because I don't look like everybody else,
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time time. I represent some people in Borough Park, some wonderful,
wonderful people from the Faciiti community, and so I go
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Arias is Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Avidershowitz, and he's
written this fifty fifth book dealing with campuses and a
ten big anthonys relies how to refute them with the truth.
It's giving up one million free copies on campus itself.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
At the back of the book is a message to
young students, and I say, you are a fortunate generation,
far more fortunate than previous generations who were not in
a position to defend Israel in the Jewish community against
anti Semitism, anti Zionism, and unfair attacks on your heritage.
Innineteen thirty, students and others of your age did not
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have the power or the ability to speak up against Nazism.
But you have that power. Use it. Your professors won't
do it, your administrators, the presidents of the universities won't
do it. But you have the power to do it.
So you're a privileged generation. You have the power to
defend Israel and to defend the Jewish community.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
The promised professor is that a lot of students are
not really set up to be warriors for Israel.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
They should be warriors for Israel, and every Jew has
an obligation, every pro Israel person. By the way, many Christians,
many Christians are pro Israel, and they too have been
speaking out and should speak out. Look, a lot of
these kids on college campus that today have been so
brave they have been willing to get lower grades because
they get lower grades if they support Israel, Fewer recommendations
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and a lot of cancelation by friends. I have friends
of mine who have been told they've been turned down
from fraternities and sororities, and they haven't and allowed to
go here and there join clubs. Look at in Berkeley,
a state sponsored school Berkeley, California, thirteen clubs, including Black Club,
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a women's club, gay club, have said if you're a Zionist,
you can't speak in our club. Will be a member.
That's illegal. But that's what's happening to students at places
like the University of California.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
But you're also happening to book authors and you're having
to professors. Are Bernard Henry Leavey's book has been It's
an important book, but yet he didn't want to promote
it because he's Jewish.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
That's right. And you know I used to get promoted.
I used to get invited to speak at every college
and the university. Today they're not inviting me. But you
know what I've done with this book. I have agreed
to speak free on Zoom at any college and any
university that wants me to speak. And I will be
speaking at the University of Pennsylvania, I will be speaking
(29:54):
at Yale. I will be speaking by Zoom to Harvard
students and alumni. So you want me to speak at
your college or university, just call and arrange with my
office and I will speak free of charge by zoom.
If it's local, I can do it in person if
the school will have me. Schools say, oh no, we
can't have Drschwitz. The security needs are too great. We
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have to have too many policemen because people are threatening
to kill him if he speaks on our campus.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Which is crazy. Free speech has been stifled.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Speak at Brooklyn College. I went to Brooklyn College. I'm
probably the best known graduate of Brooklyn College. I cannot
speak there about Israel. You know what they told me
when I was invited by a small Jewish group to
speak there. We don't need another Israeli speaker. We've already
had Norman Finkelstein. Wow, so they won't let me speak
at Brooklyn College.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Let me ask a question.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
If a student club invites you, they don't have the
right to have you speak to a private to a club.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You know, it may be fun about university.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I know in Columbia they say, well, you know, we
had an anti Yusuel speaker, but it was a group,
a chapter of some organizations that had it, So why
does not hold for Brooklyn College?
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Schools have rules that will not allow student groups to
invite without the approval of X, Y and Z. So
I was invited by the University of California at Berkeley
and they tried to cancel it. I threaten to bring
a lawsuit, and they allowed me to speak. But I
have not been allowed to speak at Brooklyn College, or
at City University, or at Hunter College, or at any
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of the news And by the way, when I was
invited to speak at Yeshiva University, Yeshiva University, Cardoza Law School,
there were efforts to try to stop me from speaking.
In the front row, there were students, mostly minority students,
but there were some others with signs saying why do
we allow a rapist to speak in our school? A
child molestor This goes back to the false accusation that
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was withdrawn by a woman who admitted that she may
have confused me and mistaken me for somebody else. But
when it comes to speaking about Israel, it doesn't matter.
Even James Carvel brought that issue up when he attacked
me for defending Donald Trump's rights in court. He brought
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that up, and so people bring up that fake issue,
which has been withdrawn with an admission by the woman
herself that she may have mistaken me for somebody else.
But that becomes the excuse at Cardoza Law School. And
then the dean of Cardoza Law School, sponsored by Yeshiva University,
took the part of the students rather than the part
of the speaker.
Speaker 14 (32:26):
She did not.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Defend my right to free speech. She defended the right
of the students to defame me. And that's Cardoza Law School.
Can you imagine how it must be in other law schools.
Let me tell you it's a lot better at Catholic
schools than it is a Jewish schools.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Unfortunately, that's to be the case.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Did you try suing the woman for monetary damages, the
one who claimed that you were involved with Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
She had to recant, of course, my.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Suit of for monetary damages, and then she withdrew her
lawsuit and admitted that she may have made it up,
and so I dropped my lawsuit as well. So that
cases over.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
But you don't want to pursue it.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Just a teacher a lesson, Well, you know, I have
better things to do to spend my time. But if
anybody does accuse me now, I will I will sue them.
I have photographs of the people who held up those
signs at Cardoza, and I'm thinking about the possibility of
bringing lawsuits. And I am bringing lawsuits against some anti
Israel people who have brought that issue up and tried
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to use it as a way of discrediting me on Israel.
So I'm going to be pretty proactive in making sure
that people can't use that against me when I defend Israel.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Now, one time on this program, professor you mentioned that
the best way to create anti semis is to sue them.
Has he had any progress getting a codre of lawyers
to sue those that are engaged in anti Semitic activity.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Well, only anti Semitic acts, and so the organization was
called Hurt a Jew. We sue you, and I do
have some lawyers who are prepared. And so if you
know anybody who has been attacked, physically attacked. We're not
talking about speeches, just physically attack, whether it be in
Crown Heights or in Manhattan or anywhere else, call me
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and you can call you and you'll put me in
touch with them, and we will file lawsuits on behalf
of anybody who's been hurt because they're Jewish. Because prosecutors
don't bring these cases for the most part, they let
them drop. But if it's a civil lawsuit, you can't
make us drop it.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
By the way, what do you think about the legal
woes that New York City Mayor Eric Adams is facing.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Well, he's presumed innocent. I want to hear the evidence,
so I want to see what it looks like. You know,
it's so easy to bring lawsuits these days, and even
to bring indictments. Look at the indictment against Donald Trump,
which resulted in the conviction for something that isn't a crime.
You know, I've been teaching and writing about criminal office
sixty years. I think I know the subject pretty well.
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And I can't understand the charges against Donald Trump in
the New York case. And so we'll have to wait
and see what the with the Adams case springs about you.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
So, when I mentioned that fact to a New York,
prominent New York Democratic lawyer, very prominent, he said, oh,
Allen dors Was he's like so into Trump that he's
ignoring the law.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Well, first of all, I'm not at the Trump I've
never voted for Trump in my life. And second of all,
I'm into the law, and I challenge him put him
on the show with me. I challenge him to explain
to anybody what the charges against them are. I don't
understand those charges. They're just not there. They're made up.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I think that'll be a future program where we can discuss.
Is happy to do it, Surriv. It's always a pleasure
to have you on the air with us.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
You do a great job, and I'm so always pleased
to be on and keep calling me Avi. You know,
all my old friends from Bura Parks still call me Avi.
My friend Carl, I've only known him now for about
eighty four years. Our parents walked us together in Williamsburg
in a baby carriage. Is that's how long I've known Carl.
And he called me today. We're going to have lunch
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on Sunday and he said, hey, Avy, how are you.
As soon as people say Avi, I know how long
they've known me for.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And I think you have the Calman family in the
Upper West Side Manhattan, and go back with you.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Yeah. Her calls me Ave all the time, and Ira
writes to me all the time and says, how can
you be supporting Trump? How can you be supporting Trump?
Speaker 5 (36:16):
You know?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
So I fight with a lot of my old friends.
I think of my eight old friends, seven of whom
are so alive. I think too probably for Trump. One
won't disclose me, and the others are all for or
all for Harris.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
But they still talk to you. That's a good thing.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
They, unlike the people on Martin's Vineyard, are the owner
of the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Wow, seame you can't sue them, right, I don't want.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
To sue them. I want to just have marketplace of
ideas open to everybody, so everybody's views can be heard.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
That's going out the window in America.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
It's going out the window. And I think if the
Democrats win, it'll go out the window more. They are
the party refreshed. James Carvel in a post talks about
how terrible it is that people are interested in the truth.
People like me are interested in the truth, are interested
in process instead of just having the Democrats win. That's
what so many on the hard left of the Democratic
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Party are in favor. They're much closer to a totalitarian
mindset than people on the right.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Absolutely, it's fascism of the left.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Well, I don't like to use the term fascism, but
cotalitarianism is a good term. You know, Nazi analogies. What
the Nazis did was so much worse than anything. People
who compare you know, Trump to Hitler or the Republicans
to Nazis are essentially how kaust deniers. They're saying that
what happen between nineteen forty one nineteen forty five is
no worse than what's going on today, and that's wrong.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
It's throwing out the garbage. That's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
It's throwing out to see instead of fighting on ideas,
that fighting on saying this person's a hit lerrys a demon,
This follows a garbage.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's not the way to really conduct it.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
As you're engaged in too much name calling both sides.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Professor, I'm looking for it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Will you disclose your vote after the election, we'll see,
all right, keep on doing what you're doing for this
or people say they admire you how you keep on
such a strong support order of visual keep it up
your latest book, they can get it's dealing with college campuses.
It's called the ten big antheors relies and how to
refute them with the truth.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
With the truth free, free of sure free.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
If it's free, I'll take two professors.
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And we're back, and I'll have maya seliment because in
Long Island now we round hard working twenty five years
in public service. Long Beach, Lego Beach, Atlantic Beach, five towns.
So good to have you on the program. Thank you
for joining us, Thanks for having me. You know, I'm
curious because I into a lot of the Orthodox Jewish legislators.
You're the only exception that's the republic Everybody else is
a Democrat, simple Eisenstein, Kaman yegor Simka Felder.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
You had the lone Republican in the group.
Speaker 14 (39:37):
Some of them are assembly people. Yet I'm the first,
uh and only Republican or Didston state history, and that's
a very sad comment You know, I'm the very first
elected official on Long Island to wear iyamica a quarter
of a century ago. That's also a very sad commentary.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Here's the thinking, because I heard we just had a
conversation with Dove Hiking, former of Sliman Democratics and now Republican.
I'm thinking is is some of the rabbi, some of
the leaders, say well, we have to vote democratic on
local elections because they're going to bring home the bacon.
They're going to bring home the money the community. Republicans
can do that. So the vote republican the national rights,
but the vote democratic locally.
Speaker 14 (40:13):
What do you say to that, Well, it's specifically talking
in the Assembly, I would say it is the rabb
i should mostly take their yamucha's off because the hill
of hush em that they're causing is monumental. I've been
in office a quarter of a century. If you haven't
come to Cedarhurst, then you really haven't participated in any
major Jewish event. What do I mean by that? I've
been in office. I know all our assembly people for
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the past. I'm here thirty three years. I've never seen
my assembly people. They're nice people, very nice people. I
have never received a penny in the village of Cedars
I'm still the deputy mayor there. Ever, you haven't given
it to Cedarhurst, you haven't given it anywhere. Let's see,
I just built a pick a bull court and Seedarhurst.
I just gave one hundred thousand dollars to Long Beach
City Hall. I just gave one hundred and fifty thousand
(40:55):
dollars to Island Park. Each one of my libraries gets
tens of thousands of dollars plate reader cameras to ocean side.
I can go on forever. You know what I've gotten
from my assembly people in the last thirty years zero,
So whatever they're saying isn't true. And I got to
tell you something else. I'm the if you look at
the other side of the Island Assembly, they don't show up,
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so I know who's voting for what, and I know
who's having the speaker press the button for them. When
you're wearing a yamack on your head and you're voting
for prop one, things that are not only anti American,
by anti Tora, I tell the Rabbis do your research
and shame on you for supporting anti Torah values periods.
I'm the only one that's not it.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
You mentioned prop one.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I know that a lot of people are a post
to tell Aridon what it's all about and what's so
dangerous about prop one.
Speaker 14 (41:44):
Prop one is a very sinister proposition where they're trying
to paint it as an abortion issue, but if you
read it, it really doesn't say that. It's really an
end run on a number of things. Number One, you
can't discriminate against somebody for their residency In other words,
if you're a legal migrants carte blanche, you're gonna get
every bill paid for you. Age discrimination, well, this is
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a big one that my colleagues and rabbis listen have
all supported. What does that mean if a man wants
to sleep with a twelve year old boy, you can't
discriminate against them. The whole pedophilia issue is opened up
with this. Every tora of value is being broken by
this proposition. Besides being a very anti American in every
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single way, when Newsday votes against it, says it is
not supporting it, you know that's pretty bad. You know,
I'm the son of a Holocaust survivor, my mother and grandmother,
and I remember as a kid always hearing the real stories.
You know, my generation, our generation, the Holocaust was right there.
It was an ancient history, and we all said to ourselves,
we would have hidden in frank and we would have
been the shindler. But you know what, we had this
(42:50):
opportunity when it came to COVID recently. My grandmother would
make matz out of dust and these robuttum shut shools down.
This is the time for them to be shindler and
stand up for what's right. Not colleagues who support every
anti Torah value. Shameful.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
So do you have conversation with the rabbis in the
community about this issue?
Speaker 14 (43:12):
Again, all those rabbis on those I never heard of
them because they really one or two they never really
get involved in the community. A few of the big
ones I've heard, I think they're just misguided because what
they do is, I say, why do you I've spoken
to w what do you do as well? You know
we're not going to get our funding for a hull
of modes. Took this project, I said, rabbis or to
my colleagues. If all this is about about getting two
(43:34):
or three hundred thousand dollars for a Holla mode event
or some Jewish festival last the day, shame on you.
I put it into something for the entire community, for infrastructure,
something that will last a lifetime. Whether I just gave
money to put together a mobile library for the Peninsula
Public Library that not only stays the Jewish people, that
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serves all people, a one off for a holiday. If
that's what you're looking for and not looking at the
big picture, they say, well, the majority, Well guess what
if the few yamakas on the other side of the
aisle will come to my side. We get rid of
the supermajority, the the person that stands up for Torah
and Jewish value. Isn't it shameful that the rabbis say
to support the people who are part of the put,
(44:18):
part of AOC, the squad, Thalibs, the Omars.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Be supporting democratic candidates.
Speaker 14 (44:23):
Is that what you're reporting democratic candidates? In any way,
you're supporting that party. When my colleague and now with
the Congressman Mike Lawler, wanted to have a resolution and
you hatred day and that couldn't come to the floor,
but Menstrual hygien Day was lorded. That day is the
greatest piece of legislation. And my colleagues said nothing. I
have six bills in the Assembly on anti Semitism and
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that one yamaka is standing with me. But every non
Jewish stay with me on these hills. Why because they're
afraid of the speaker and they're afraid of the DSA.
These are the Jews that the rabbis are supporting. They're wonderful, kid,
I like them all. They're really wonderful. I can't say
one bad thing about those colleagues. They're the nicest kids.
(45:07):
But you know what, it's misguided and it's shameful. It's
time to stand up for the Jewish people.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
You caucus at all with the other Orthodox Jewish legislators.
Speaker 14 (45:16):
I asked them to. I'm the one that writes the bills.
I say, right away. Please, here's a letter I'm writing
to a university president. Please sign on. Here's a bill,
six bills, please sign on.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Here.
Speaker 14 (45:29):
I'm having a press conference on the million dollar staircase. Nothing.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
What do they tell you?
Speaker 14 (45:34):
They don't you know, I'm not gonna get my funding.
We have to bring back the bacon. Even that a
Jew is saying bring back the bacon just shows you
how anti Tora values this is about. Is it about
a money for a one off thing, or to deliver
for the entire Jewish people? I say, be it proud
jew come to the side that supports the Jewish people,
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not the party of the AOCS, not the party of
the kou kux Klan, not the body of the segregationists.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
But but now you know there was a movement underway,
and we spoke about it on the area you're well
aware of it. Where they're saying too orthodox shoes especially.
You know you want to vote Republican, but at least
be a registered Democrat because all the interesting races and
primary races are in the Democratic Party. You have more
influence by being a Democrat. And vote Republican if you like,
but stay in the party.
Speaker 14 (46:23):
Again, it's the question of a ghanav a Goslin. You
know you want to steal at night, and you're not
afraid of God, be a robber during the day. God's
more accepting of something like that. Be a proud Jew.
People say you didn't grow up religious, but you always
were a keeper. You know why you wear a kipa
because they didn't want me to be the proud Jew.
Twenty four to seven. Not when it's convenient, not for you,
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for any type of maneuvers. Come to our side. Eventually
we'll get the majority again. At least we'll get rid
of the supermajority right away. What they can't stand on
their own merit. Only through having the D in front
will they be voted for. They shouldn't be in office.
And again they are all the nicest kids, every one
of them, but they do the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Let's get personal. You said you mentioned that you weren't
wars observant. What made you decide to become more involved
politically and also religiously.
Speaker 14 (47:14):
The funny story, I used to be very smart, but
I lost a lot of brain cells over the years.
I graduated. I just turned sixteen from high school. I
wasn't old enough to drive to school. I know how
to go to college at night. I went to Israel
for the year. When I came home, my parents became religious.
I said, I think you got a little backwards. I
was suused to.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
But anyway, why did they become religious because you went
to Israel?
Speaker 14 (47:33):
Well, they had a you know whatever it was. And
my parents never missed dobbining Minka Mara over. My mother lectured.
My mother was a very just passed away as a
very famous lecture on Holocaust studies. My mother and grandmother
are Italian Jews. It's a very famous story. In a
book called Haven, you can read about this story. But politics,
(47:54):
Mayor Parisi called me twenty five twenty six years ago
our computer ponyboard, and you know, so on and so forth,
and it led to other things. I used to be
the vice share of the Townehampstad Industrial Development Agency, but
I always said no to bigger office because my seven kids,
they're all grown now. If they were up, I wanted
to be home. I went on every school trip. I
(48:14):
was the class mother for five of my seven kids.
If they're awake, I'm gonna be there. I'm never going
to miss a day. And that's why I got great kids.
Thank good.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
So now that the kids are older, any plans where
you look for a higher position.
Speaker 14 (48:27):
Listen, every person makes this mistake. Whether you're a mayor
or a governor or a president of United States, you
know what it means. It means nothing. It means nothing.
People forget about you the next day when you know,
for whatever reason, it's what you do for a fellow person.
I had the opportunity recently. They I got to call, Hey, Ai,
you matched for someone for kidney donation. I said, let's
(48:48):
do it. You said, you don't want to ask if
he's from or not from. I said, if anybody have
to ask you that, don't take the kidney from them.
Shame on them. I don't care who it is with
doing it. Turned out I donated a kidney to a
purple heart veteran wonderful fellow. Wow, you do because you
do that for any higher office. I would never want
higher office. And I'll tell you why. We have the
best congressman in Anthony Di Esposito, and I have a wonderful,
(49:10):
wonderful Senator and Senator Patricia Cansinarry Fitzpatrick. They are phenomenal.
They are my partners in every which way. And just
for the Rabbis again, talk about democrats in office. Very
few people have been in office as long as I've been.
I walked over on jantif to the Lawrence Country Club.
There was an event a long beach Latino Civic Association.
This lady comes over to me. You see me in
(49:31):
the five pounds because she read the article on the
post where I apparently said she wasn't. I said, I apologize,
Who are you? I'm sorry, I'm Laura Gillan. I said, oh, well,
we never met. I'm in office twenty five years and
I used to be the vice chair. You're bored and
we never met. Kind of tells you that there's a problem.
But I'll tell you what. I have a congressman that
I've always seen every single day. That's Anthony di Esposito.
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So you know what, I have never seen my Democrat colleagues.
Ever in my village of Cedar, I said, you know what,
I'm the shopping district of the south through along Island.
Everything in the five pounds revolves around my park. If
I haven't seen you there, shame.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
On you times in. This has a tough election re
election battle.
Speaker 14 (50:08):
Doesn't that tough? Wherever you go? He's beloved. They did
a poll and the poll excluded the entire five pounds.
They did it ober Yant, so eighteen and a half
percent of the electorate wasn't included.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I did it, really? They did it over of course
they did it.
Speaker 14 (50:22):
And this is who the rabbis, these particular rabbis and
my Democrat colleagues are supporting. It's time to be good Jews.
You did screw up with this. It's time to be
proud Jews and not cower from the DSA. Why did
they do it? We had a not on my dime
bill that they wanted to put on the floor to
Carl Hasty's credits. He didn't let it come to committee.
(50:44):
But one of them should speak out. I have a
press conference that I invited all of them. In other words,
any any non for profit that would support Israel, you know,
should be excluded from any funding in the state. Not
one of my Democrat colleagues should stand with me. Every
non Jew and never non firm stood with me. This
is what we need to cower. Why because they're afraid
the Democrats Socialists will primary them. I had a wonderful
(51:07):
colleague who was in charge of the Chaman of people
with disabilities, claiming Liberal they primary them, knocked them out,
and they're all worried about Are we worried as Jews
to have badges on our chest or to do the
right thing as Americans, the Yorkers and the Jewish people.
I don't know. My father taught me the right way,
you know. I always stated the rabbis, you know, you
(51:28):
should have a class. The class should be called how
to be a gentleman? One oh one, and everything else follows.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
From there, and its how to be a men's right,
that's it, how to be a mens. It's not taught
before I let you. How's your re election campaign coming along?
Speaker 14 (51:42):
Wonderful?
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Thank God?
Speaker 14 (51:44):
You know you say, wow, you got Long Beach. You know,
we knocked out the wind turbines that were going to
destroy Long Beach. Mic my opponents that used to be
a very nice lady. First supported it. Now she's saying
she didn't support it. She's not supported because she used
to be on the town the city council. I told
them you better get off of it because your whole
community is gonna come out against you. And they removed
(52:05):
her from the board. Very nice lady, though, I have
to say, she's been very you know, but they were
going to dig up fats of burbines blocking everything.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Thank you, yell, I'm Trump campaign for you.
Speaker 14 (52:16):
I know.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Speaker Johnson was with you the other night, right at.
Speaker 14 (52:18):
Dinner last night with the Speaker Johnson. What a man,
what a fine person. I have to tell you, I
really honored to be with him last night. Really was
an absolute honor. We got a great slate supporters of
the Jewish people across the board. Can we say that
about the Democrats? My fellow rabbis, why are you supporting
(52:39):
a party, even if it's a single candidate, that is
the party that calls for the destruction of state of Israel?
Tell me, I'm gonna give everybody the answer. It's the
story of Loats. When Abram sends the Melachem to Sidome
and the Stamites around the house. What does loads say,
take my virgin daughters, do what you will with them,
but let me save these people. That's the sickness that
(53:02):
goes to the head. Let the world love me, give
me a bitch, wake up.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
You get blowback from the Rabbi by speaking up your
mind and saying calling them to the task.
Speaker 14 (53:10):
I'm one of the oldest state legislators. If you don't
want to vote for me for that because I'm standing
up for the Jewish people, then God will do what
he wants to do.
Speaker 9 (53:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Anyway, then we're gonna have to have you back more offins.
You're not afraid to speak your mind, which I like
you say the way you see it, which is a mile.
In today's day and age, too many people are afraid
to take a position.
Speaker 14 (53:28):
Like I said. You know, I'm one of the oldest
state legislators. I can't speak my mind at this point,
and you.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
Can't do it. I mean selling me and Auri Brown,
thank you for joining us.
Speaker 14 (53:38):
Thanks good speaking to you.
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