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Welcome back to the program, Moms Zev Brenner. The Yiddish
Iak coming from all over the yiddishak Coming Yiddish is
enjoying a revival from people from.
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Literally all over the globe.
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For fifty seven years, YEVO, which people know is preservation
of Yiddish culture and heritage, has also been teaching Yiddish
culture and about Cassidium, and we'll talk about that right now.
Joining us is Ben Kaplan, director of education for YEVU
instead of Jewish Research. Devid Brown is the academic director
of the Evil bart oriole wineran summer programing Yiddish language,
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rich and culture in every year for fifty seven years,
they brought together people to immerse themselves in Yiddish.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Thank you for joining us at.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Frankan Egan Pleasure.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So who is learning Yiddish? You have this the most
intensive courses in summertime. You do stuff a year round.
So who is learning Yiddish? Who wants to learn the language?
Speaker 9 (06:57):
I would say everybody, everybody in every We don't have
a profile, we don't have a uniform profile for the
typical Yiddish student, just like you know, anybody learning anything
is not typically profiled at the university, and we give
university courses. This is for university credit if people want it.
(07:19):
These six weeks that we immerse our students in Yiddish,
and they come from all age ranges. This year alone
we had students from age sixteen through ay six and
they come from all interests, and they come from all religions,
and they come from all backgrounds, and they come from
all native languages, and they come from all eye colors
and skin complexions. Now, of course, naturally it is a
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majority of Jews who are interested in this, because Yiddish
language is a language of the Jewish people and grew
up over the past thousand years among them. But the
reasons are varied. Some are interest in interest in cultural
heritage and reclamation, in family life, or in genealogy in documents.
(08:02):
Some are academics who are getting degrees in various areas
that touch upon Yiddish. So there's no one profile of
a Yiddish student.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
No, But I noticed that you have people from Iran, Italy, China, Moldova,
So why would somebody in China and you have more
than one Chinese individual from I understand studying Yiddish. Why
would somebody from let's say that part of the world
want to know Yiddish well.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
The Chinese person is a perfect example. This is a
student this year that we had who is from China
and is currently studying in London, I believe, and he
took the Yiddish Summer program over Zoom. He didn't come
to us in New York. We have two programs essentially
in this larger program, there are two modalities of it.
(08:48):
And this is somebody who got a initial course in
London and found Ashkenazik culture and history fascinating. And then
really I think he's an intellectual historian, but just beginning
his studies, so we'll see where he ends up in
the next couple of years. Was fascinated also by his
own culture and discovered that in the early period of
(09:11):
the last century when China and Chinese culture and Chinese
intellectual culture was undergoing a sort of revolution, similar things
happened between the treatment by Chinese intellectuals to Chinese as
what happened in the world of Yiddish and Jewish intellectuals
in Eastern Europe as they were figuring out what to
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do with and how to treat their language. So he
gave us a presentation in fact that students take part
in self generated presentations throughout our six weeks so they
can tell they can teach us what we don't know
about them and about their intellectual worlds. He discovered that
the Chinese intellectuals of the nineteen twenties already had their
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eye on Eastern European Yiddish speakers in Vilna and Warsaw,
et cetera. In that same time, and they looked back
at the charano Its Conference of nineteen oh eight, the
first major conference that dealt with the Yiddish language as
a Jewish question of how to incorporate that language or
(10:14):
how to associate that language with Jewurry Is it the
national language, the international language, the only language, one of
many languages, et cetera. And the Chinese were doing the
same exact thing.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
They had the.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
Finger on the pulse of what was going on in
Chaernovits and in Vilna and in Warsaw, and were inspired.
And you know, there was a movement once upon a time,
over one hundred years ago to write Chinese in Latin characters,
so that the whole population could become literate instead of
the pictogram situation that Chinese has, and they looked at
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the spelling reforms that went through that were first discussed
at the chair of Its conference in nineteen oh eight,
and were inspired by that so phenomenal. Here the Chinese
one hundred years ago and this young Chinese man are
interested in and learning what the Yiddish we're doing way
back when, and here we the Yiddish ourselves get to
(11:12):
learn about our effect and our inspiration towards other cultures.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Been you are going to say something.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Yeah, I was just to say in short.
Speaker 10 (11:20):
Yiddish is an important language in academia today for historical research,
for archival research, and we have, as Dovid's referencing students
in Holocaust studies, students in German studies, and literary studies
in many different fields of academia who need the language.
It becomes an essential language in their research, and so
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they're publishing. They will go on to publish new books
of history that incorporate primary source materials. He has millions
of documents in the Yiddish language and in other languages
as well. But it's a really important part of the
history not just in Eastern Europe, as Deva was mentioning,
but in how the Jews is and you're interacted with
other cultures and other civilizations.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Now, my daughter went through EVO Yiddish. She's actually Yiddish major.
She's now in Harvard though immersed in Yiddish. But Ben,
tell us about the curriculum. What are you teaching? Are
you teaching the language? The culture? I noticed you teach
about Let's let's get involved into it.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Take us there.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
Sure.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
So in the summer program, we have three core courses.
Everyone takes every day a language course. DOPA teaches those
and the higher levels, and they also take a literature course.
And we usually have anywhere from four to six levels
of proficiency. From complete beginner. You don't need any prior background.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Are they're reading in Yiddish or they're reading in English?
Speaker 10 (12:41):
They're going to be reading in Yiddish? Yes, and so
you know you're getting this full immersion in the language
and in the culture.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
So what are you reading.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Ibas Chevis singer Shesh. What are you reading?
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Yes, yes, yes, right. It depends on the level, It
depends on the teacher. But we have those canonical writers
like Shoan malchm and Isaac Sheff Singer, and then we
have more off the beaten path writers we've incorporated, you know,
curricula these days incorporate more women writers who are not
included in the canon originally but have been really brought
(13:13):
back in, and other writers from different regions that may
not have been in the primary canon but have been
added in, you know, current literary studies that are important
to look at. So everyone takes the language courses, the
literature courses every day, and they also take what we
call a schmuis or a conversation course three times a week,
so you're getting that speaking practice as well. We treat
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Yiddish as a living language, of course, and we want
to make sure that all those language skills are being reinforced.
And then beyond those core required courses, we typically have
many different seminars, electives, lectures on varying topics from different
scholars from around the world, and workshops, and we have
a music workshop, a singing workshop, we have a theater workshop.
(13:57):
Have we teach students how to the site for Yiddish
handwriting in documents. We usually have electives on rotating topics
on different aspects of Yiddish language, history and culture.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
What to teach about sedum I knowed that was part
of the curriculum.
Speaker 10 (14:12):
Yes, So we had a literature seminer this year that
was focused on Hasidic culture and the literary output of
Hassidic culture across the centuries. And that was taught by
Mark Kaplan. So that's just an example of you know,
various courses we might have throughout the years. And we
also do walking tours for the students who come to
(14:33):
us in New York City. So we did a tour
of Chsidic Williamsburg. We got a chance to go into
the Hassidic community and you know, see what it's like
in a in a Yiddish speaking community today in New
York City.
Speaker 9 (14:47):
Just two years ago we had a lecture, was it
two or three? We had a guest lecture. We have
a series of lectures that are that's associated with the
program for our students. These are scholars who focus on
very specific areas of the broad, very broad topic of
Ashkenazik history and culture. And we had a specialist who
(15:07):
comes from the Hasidic community in New York and who
is also a PhDd linguist in the field, and she
gave us a talk. This is doctor Jiro Ronov. She
gave us a talk about the Yiddish of current New
York area Harasidium.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
And that's different than the other side.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You teach a DIEVO you have more, right, that's Hasidic
Yiddish is different.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Well, every Yiddish is different because there are many dialects.
And what we teach at EVO inside the classroom is,
you know, essentially classroom Yiddish, the standards that have arisen
over the past one hundred hundred and twenty years for
public usage. That is non dialectal, non local, and don't
pinpoint you as coming from any particular.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, but the point is though you probably have the
biggest Yiddish speaking population in the world, is the Hasidic
community yet about thousands of people. So wouldn't it make
more sense to teach that dialect because if they go
to Classiitic Williamsburg, or they go anyplace, their chances are
they're going to speak that kind of Yiddish.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Well, if they're only here for speaking Yiddish, that's true,
but if they're also interested in researching Yiddish and speaking
with anybody who is not of the current day Classidic
usage population, then they need to know standard Yiddish or
to be able.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
What do you call that?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Folk spach? That's the everyday language. Isn't that an expression
folk sprach the people speak.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Well maybe folks folks the people's language. The people's language
though was really everything outside of the classroom language, right,
So that's that's all the dialects that are out there now.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I noticed music. What Yiddish music do you portray? Do
you feature in the classroom or in the course.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
We have various We have an elective on Yiddish music,
and we have a number of teachers for it and
a number of performers who join it as well. So
we have in house representatives of Yiddish music from the
EVO Sound Recording department and at the say who are
(17:13):
the experts on printed and recorded Yiddish music and musicology.
And then we have performers as well who lead song
sessions and teach our students some of the basics and
also some of the off the beaten track.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I give them more of the contemporary because the way
the biggest Yiddish music is in the Classidic community. In fact,
we used to carry the Forward radio show, which was
in Yiddish music, culture, et cetera. But in the final
years of the Ford Radio Show they featured people like
Lipa Schmeltzer because that's what was in vogue.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
Sure. Sure, and we've actually had a number of the
current day hasidim or kind of ex harasidium or on
their way out but into the modern Orthodox world of
a great singer doing special interviews with us and special fabrangens.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You've seen them that have taken the courses, so they
don't need to they know Yiddish. I'm just curious if
any of them participating, well, they actually.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
Do need to because many of them cannot write their
native language. Remember that they're often not schooled in their
native language, so they come knowing Yiddish natively, but without
comfort reading it or writing it since their schooling is limited.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Said they don't read itsh They have a Viberan Yiddish
press and you have online, so I can understand why
wouldn't they be able to read it if they have
all these publications that they're reading.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
Because they're not taught it at school. They're typically not
taught it at school. If they are reading, if they
are reading, not everybody reads, and not everybody reads to
the same extent. And remember also that many of these
communities are quite bilingual with English and Yiddish, or with
Yiddish and Hebrew, or with Yiddish and Flemish in Antwerp,
(19:00):
so that not everybody is schooled or is a typical
Yiddish reader who comes from a Yiddish speaking household.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Calte English.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I guess the Yiddish and English right open defence they're
used to be the way open the vendo I heard anyway, right,
English has been incorporated into Yiddish.
Speaker 9 (19:16):
Just like every language is incorporated in every language. Whenever
two communities of different languages are meeting and incorporating each other.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Anybody from Gaza or Lebanon or any of these countries
have been I know, Iran, you have somebody. What about
the other countries that I mentioned? Are they also anybody
taking Yiddish from those places?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
We have had students in the past couple of years. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Interesting, And did they tell you why they're taking Yiddish
if they're in Gaza or Lebanon or Saudi Arabia, et cetera.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Yeah, interest in the Jewish people, interest in Jewish civilization,
remember that not everybody who is, let's say, a Saudi
Arabian is a political representative of Saudi Arabia. A person
might have, you know, independence of thought and be doing
a set of studies at the university and wants to
understand the world, not just their country's politics.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Ben Cavil, director of Education for EVA. Dovid Brown, the
academic director of the YVO Board your real wine wrap.
Some are programming Yiddish lag of literer and culture. Why
do they have a Yiddish word in there too?
Speaker 11 (20:18):
Right?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Shouldn't they have a Yiddish world into the Yeva?
Speaker 12 (20:21):
All right?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Are right?
Speaker 8 (20:23):
And Yiddish?
Speaker 9 (20:24):
That's a Yiddish word? And program program is okay? And
summer you could argue, zoomer, really zoomer.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Of course, if people want to learn more about YEVA
and especially the Yiddish program where people can learn Yiddish,
immerse themselves in Yiddish culture, how can they do so?
Speaker 10 (20:39):
You can visit EVA dot org or the seven program's website.
Summer program do EVA dot org.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And every year is getting bigger. So what's some plan
for next years? I let you go.
Speaker 10 (20:47):
Next year we have our centennial. So YVA is celebrating
one hundred years. EVA was founded in nineteen twenty five,
so we'll have our twenty twenty five seven program and
we'll have some special programming around that.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
So stay tuned, keep us posted.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
The Yiddisha coming, the Yiddish I here. Thank you for
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a long time since we last had Bruce Teitelbaum, former
chief of staff to Mayor Ruder Giuliani, is now in
real estate development and he's embarked on a campaign to
say thank you to Mayor Eric Adams.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Welcome back to the program.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Bruce, Thank you, shavelab Zev, thank you, good to be here.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Good to be with So I know that you're doing ads,
you're doing a campaign. Why at this point in the history.
Are you telling Jews, especially in the Orthodox Jewish community,
say thank you to Mayor Eric Adams.
Speaker 14 (27:14):
Look, zeb everyone knows that this is a perilous time
for the Jewish community here in New York, in America,
across the world. Eric Adams has been a friend of
the Jewish community for twenty five thirty years, in particular
now with what's going on in college campuses on the
streets of New York. He stood up for us. He's
spoken on behalf of us. He's protected us. So he's
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done right by us, and I think is an important
Jewish value. I think it's important the Jewish community stand
up and they say thank you to the mayor who
has been very, very friendly. He's been with us, he
stood with us. I think it's important that we say
thank you to him.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
No, I think it's important too. But why now it's
been this thing has been raised in October seventh? Is
it because the mayor is embattled with all these investigations.
Speaker 14 (28:00):
I mean, I mean, in particular, you know the Ati place,
they talk specifically about not only standing up for a friend,
but when a friend's going through a tough time, and
obviously he's going through a difficult time now, a lot
of people are are being critical.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
He's getting some bad press.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
There are some things happening that are causing obviously a
lot of focus on what's happening at city Hall and
in the city. So I think particularly now, you know,
when a friend is going through a tough time, you
know you've got to stand up for friends.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
If not, now, when.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Does city hall? Are they aware of what you're trying
to do.
Speaker 14 (28:32):
I haven't spoken to the mayor and some time, nor
have I spoken to any of the people who work
for him or or who are as political people.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
I don't think I need to.
Speaker 14 (28:43):
I think, you know, it's important that we individually, collectively communally.
If there's something that we need to do, we should
do it. We shouldn't have to be prompted or asked,
or or coordinate with people. So I haven't spoken to anyone.
This is something I've done in the past. I've done
in conjunction with other people in the community. This time,
I didn't think I wanted to wait. I wanted to
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act quickly, so I did.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It's it's it's nice as impressive. What's been the reaction
so far.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
It's been great. I got.
Speaker 14 (29:13):
I've gotten so many dozens and dozens of phone calls
from actually interesting from a lot of folks who are
not Jewish, from from the non Jewish community, folks and
queens in the Bronx in Manhattan who swear the end
and said, you know what, you know, you know kla ko,
good for you. It's important that people stand up for
the mayor, especially folks who have been who have been
helped and with the marya show and support to I
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think actually a couple of groups I've spoken to are
taking the head and they're reprinting it and they're posting
it themselves, and then they're something that themselves. So I
think that's terrific and I hope, uh, I hope it
does something good.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Well, it's great that you're doing that.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is it mainly the Frum community that's responding to you.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Is it a general community? Who's who's responding?
Speaker 14 (29:56):
Yea, you know, it's it's been, it's been. Actually haven't
received actually a single phone call from anyone in the
in the Orthodox community. It's been people actually in the
business community, people you know who I worked with years ago,
A couple of non Jewish groups, a couple of civic
groups from Queen's in particular, that saw the ad in
one of the political pampers in New York. So I
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think that's great because, frankly, I think the Orthodox community,
more conservative community. I think they appreciate they support the mayor.
I think it's important that folks were maybe not affiliated
or not from the Orthodox community, but we're Jewish live
in the city who are getting, you know, benefit from
the mayor support. They too should be aware of what's happening.
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And I'm glad that they've responded and they're aware of
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
We're getting some phone calls coming in. Let's see if
we can sweeze and let's see Ira in Brooklyn or Queens.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Go ahead, Ira, are you there?
Speaker 15 (30:50):
Mister title Beaum. My sympathies are with Rudy Juliani. I
don't know what you're going with Mayor Adams about. I mean,
how could you compare them to come on?
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Please?
Speaker 15 (31:01):
And you were working, mister Giuliani. Is this gratitude? Is
this a chorus at all? That you're talking about a chorus?
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (31:11):
I mean, you know, I'm not talking about Rudy Giuliani. Now,
I'm talking about the current mayor, Rudy Giuliani was the
mayor of twenty five, thirty years ago.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
He did what he did.
Speaker 14 (31:23):
I'm talking about what's happening in twenty twenty four here
in New York and trying to express gratitude thanks to
the person who currently occupies Gracie Manchin and is the
current mayor of New York.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
And I thank you for your question, but I was
just curious, Bruce, because Rudy gian is going through hard times.
Are you in touch with him? Is that something that
you're involved with it all.
Speaker 16 (31:43):
I haven't been in touch with with the mayor, the
guy I worked for for a while. Right now, what
I'm concerned about is what's happening in New York today.
We live in a very very challenging times, as you
know at a lot of things are happening in the city,
a lot of things affecting the jewishmmunity.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Mayor Adams is the mayor right now, he's the guy
in charge.
Speaker 14 (32:04):
I think it's important that we acknowledge what he's doing,
and I think it's important for the Jewish county to
express their appreciation for what he's doing for us.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Let's get to Aria and for the phone. I even
got the phone on. The phones are ringing. Bruce here,
Aria and Flapper. Is your question for Bruce title Bounce?
Speaker 17 (32:20):
Yes, I would like to know if you think that
the Columbia University Jewish students are grateful to Eric Adams
So waiting several weeks before he sent the police in,
during which they were afraid to go to classes, they
were haracked, uh and and physically menaced, and and people
are saying that if they were if they would demonstrating,
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if the Ku kuks Klan was demonstrating on campus, he
would have cleared them out in one day.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
So what do you say to that?
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Yeah, it's it's a good question.
Speaker 14 (32:49):
It's not as simple as that Columbia University is a
private institution and the New York City Police Department is
not permitted to go on private property. They have to
be they have to be invited onto the campus. So
in the case you're talking about, it was a very
challenging case. It really it was incumbent upon the people
who ran Columbia University to work with the NYPD to
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invite them on. So the mayor didn't have the authority
to unilaterally in day one send the police in I'm
sure if he had that power he would have done it,
but he didn't.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
So it's more complicated than you make it seem.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Okay, let's go to Juty in Brooklyn. Okay, Judy and Brooklyn.
Your question for Bruce.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Could you tell me what we're supposed to be thankful for?
Could you highlight something?
Speaker 18 (33:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:36):
Absolutely, there were several things.
Speaker 14 (33:38):
First of all, the New York City Police Department is
working extremely closely with the organized Jewish community. There's been
extra protection put on Jewish schools, Jewish communal institutions, synagogues
all across the city. Secondly, the mayor is spoken at
every single event, major event in the city of New York,
especially after October seventh, in support of the state of Israel,
when almost every other politician in New York said thing.
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Third the mayor is working very very closely with the
leaders of the Jewish community who have asked him for
extra police protection, especially the upcoming Jewish high Holy Days.
So I think all of the things that he's done
that I have just articulated, including the fact that he
stood up very publicly, very clearly, very unequivocally in support
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of what the Jewish community is going through and in
support of the State of Israel. When you compare that
to the to the silence of the vast majority elective
officials of the city, I think that's something we should
be thankful for and grateful for.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
And there's also one of the point to ponder, Bruce,
is that in today's day and age, if you speak
out for Israel, the repercussion, especially on the progressive left,
they don't take it lying down.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
If you're a supporter of Israel.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Well, that's the great point in Zev.
Speaker 14 (34:45):
You know that it could be very easy for the
mayor who who lives and works in the city where
there's an increasing progressive community, he can have said simply nothing, which,
by the way, the vast majority of politicians, especially Jewish
politicians in New York, have said nothing.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
And Zev's you're making a very good point.
Speaker 14 (35:00):
Part of the reason this is because we're afraid of the
backlash from the left. Eric Adams was never fearful of that.
As I said, he was one of the first to
come out very clearly, very struggling in support of the
State of Israel, condemning with Hamastid, condemning what's going on
in Israel and in addition, doing what he could do
within the limits of the law to protect the Jewish
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community here in New York.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
That's just a fact.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Who has ringer Bruce Tim I'm former chief of staff
to Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who is a Republican mayorer, and
he is telling Jews to send today thank you to
a Democratic mayor. Eric Adams especially is being beleaguered by
all kinds of investigations surrounding him. He wants the Jewish
communities they thank you for his support of Israel.
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Speaker 7 (38:15):
And now here's your host.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
We're back.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Bruce Tilbaum is our guest, and we're taking your phone call.
The phones are blazing. Let's go to Henya. Bruce Tilabum
was former chief of staff to Mayor rud Jiuelani. He's
in real estate and he's asking Orthodox jew and Jews
to say thank you to Mayor Eric Adams for a
strong support for Israel. Let's go to Henya in Crown Heights, Henya,
Krint Heights, shut Hi.
Speaker 19 (38:40):
First of all, this is the same Bruce Tarlbum that
was around Krin Heights during the riots.
Speaker 15 (38:44):
Is that correct?
Speaker 19 (38:44):
That's me, that's you, Okay, So I just wanted to
make a comment to help you.
Speaker 15 (38:49):
Let me finish it.
Speaker 19 (38:50):
So we are grateful for the police presence that the
mayor is providing to our synagogues, and that's really nice. However,
for some reason, it seems that Udlum's feeling power to
attack juice under Mayor Adams watch.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Are the mayor for them a way?
Speaker 19 (39:07):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Yes, going through New.
Speaker 19 (39:09):
York one moment, because I'm sure if there were demonstrations
against Moslims of blacks for what their countries were doing,
Mayor Adams would never allow these demonstrations to go on here.
Especially I remember that after nine eleven. Every politician was
out there yelling and screaming, we're not against moslims 'rony
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against those who attacked us, and all the Mouslims would
be protected. I'd like Mayor Adams to keep reminding everybody
that Israel is reacting. They're reacting to burning babies of eyes,
just to slaughtering people, to shooting them. It's it's not
that they're doing anything to harm people, it's their reactions.
It's unconditional to hear that the Israelis are killing innocent Palestinians.
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That's an outright lie hamms terrorists. And this is what
I want the mayor to keep saying. Terrorists want the
people to be killed by the retaliation of Israel. Be
stressed at every conversation. I don't think people are aware.
I mean they forgot to what happened October seventh. I
want to know how many orphans of widows are there
in Israel? Now does that mention?
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Hanya?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I appreciate your passion. I let brush respond. We have
other people waiting online, but you want to comment, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
I mean, I think, Henya, I appreciate your comments.
Speaker 14 (40:25):
You should listen to the speech the mayor made a
couple months ago at a rally I attended. It was
one of the most beautiful and passioned speeches. Everything you
said he said in that speech. The mayor repeatedly says
what you've just said, over and over and over again.
You got to understand something. He's the mayor of New York.
He's not the mayor of Jerusalem. He's not the mayor
of Israel. And for someone to stand up and to
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do what he's done, especially Hanyell, when you consider the
relative silence of almost every other political figure in this city,
in the state, including Jewish politicians, you have to give
him credit, and by the way, explain something else to
you if we don't give him credit. The message that
we're sending to politicians around the city is that no
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matter what they do, and I'm not saying every time
they do what you think is the best or as
much as they should do.
Speaker 8 (41:13):
But the messager's.
Speaker 14 (41:14):
Sending is, you know something, the Jewish community either doesn't
care or they want more, given what's going on in
this country, in the city, in the state, and around
the world, to have the mayor of New York, an
African American mayor of New York who has ev pointed
out before, is in the city now that is becoming
increasingly progressive and left for him to stand up and
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to say what he has said and defend issual.
Speaker 8 (41:36):
The way he has done it is commendable.
Speaker 14 (41:39):
It may not be perfect, it may not be as
much as you want, but it's darn good response.
Speaker 19 (41:44):
I agree with what you say. I just don't agree
with the demonstrations that he's allowing to go on. He
would never allow the demonstrations.
Speaker 14 (41:53):
Nya kenya, nya hanya. Let me CanYa, listen to me.
I hear what you're saying. There's something called the First Amendment,
and there's something called the freedom of assembly, and unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Blackbird's finished, and then we have a lot of way
and go ahead.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
Can I can? I agree with you.
Speaker 14 (42:13):
I agree with I agree in the sense that what's
going on in this city is terrible. It's not his fall.
First of all, he is acting I think appropriately. He's
acting in the best interest of the city and I
think the Jewish community, and I think what we need
to say is by the way, heny, I would agree
with mister mayor, thank you, you're doing good.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
Do more.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
That's okay, But we gotta thank him. We gotta say that.
Speaker 14 (42:35):
We got to tell him we understand and support what
he's doing for us.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
You want to urge him to do more.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
That's okay, hen Y, thank you for your car.
Speaker 19 (42:43):
I appreciate the peace of the country.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
God, we have to do that.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Hen You, thank you. It's nice hearing from you. Let's
got to stand in Forest Hills.
Speaker 12 (42:52):
Obviously, you're not doing this for no reason at all.
Are you going to be working for the re election
of the mayor?
Speaker 8 (42:58):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 14 (42:59):
I'm not for any reason other than for the reason
that I said, Stan, I don't work for the mayor.
I'm out on this political campaign. I don't get any
benefit from the mayor. I'm doing this because as a
person who's lived in the city for a long time,
person who's been in politics, I can tell you, Stan,
politicians are very sensitive. They read the paper, they listened
about the show.
Speaker 12 (43:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's sensitive, all right.
Speaker 14 (43:22):
As someone has worked for political people, it is important.
I'm telling you, Stan, I've been there. It's important that
when a politician goes out and does something, it's important
that they get feedback from the community.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Now, again, some people might think it's not good enough.
Speaker 14 (43:35):
But I'm telling you that the mayor has stood up,
and I think it's important for us to say thank
you for what you've done. You want to say do more,
you can say that, but I think it's important here
in the stands that we're listening, we appreciate it, and
we're thankful for what he's done for us.
Speaker 12 (43:51):
Let me ask your question. You are a Republican, are
you not? I am Okay, I would assume you're a
loyal Republican. Okay, let me ask you this question, putting
you on the spot. Okay, the man you supported for
over twenty five years, the former mayor has been literally
destroyed by what has happened to him, undeservedly so because
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of the cases in Georgia, and he owes money and
now he's in Florida and hiding or whatever. And to
blame for that is Donald Trump. But do you support
Donald Trump for president?
Speaker 8 (44:23):
You know? I tell you asked me to come on
the show to talk about it.
Speaker 12 (44:26):
I know what I am.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
I had a whole question. Understand. Let the man speak,
go ahead.
Speaker 12 (44:31):
Let them answer it, go ahead. I have no problem.
Speaker 8 (44:33):
Yeah, I mean, frankly, my supporter not support of Trump.
Speaker 14 (44:37):
Is not relevant. I'm here to do one thing. I
live in New York City. I'm concerned about in New
York City. I'm concerned about the Jewish community here in
New York and I'm here to tell people we're living
in very perilous timestand you know that it is important.
It's important that the Jewish community stand up religious not religious,
old young, but Manhattan, Brooklyn, wherever you are, it is important,
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given what's happening in this city, to tell our leaders,
especially the one who runs the city, thank you for
listening and being concerned and standing up.
Speaker 8 (45:07):
For the Jewish community. Period. Am I talking about Trump Giuliani?
Speaker 6 (45:12):
Well, have other calls and we have an email one.
Speaker 12 (45:16):
Wait quick, wait when the federal government is finished with
its investigation of him, then I'll thank him. If he's
not guilty of anything.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Way waiting when I thank him before. If you like
what he did, thank you.
Speaker 12 (45:26):
No, I'll wait to see what the Fed's got on him.
If they have anything, then I'll thank them.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
All Right, Okay, are your premier point? Thank you, Let's
go to you. Let's go to your heel or is
your tough?
Speaker 6 (45:39):
I know? Go Wait to the next email question. Anyway,
go ahead, your go ahead, your heel.
Speaker 18 (45:43):
How much express my appreciation from what you are saying
that you have to have a crossotalphic he is it's
a true Oh have you strow and hopefully every buying
the juish author dox community with realized just just not
just not point Donald Trump, who is being targeted by
FB and being a political enemy of the Democrats in camera,
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but he is our friend. The exact thing thing with
Emic Adams. He's being targeted by the FBI being their enemy,
and he's also our friends. So he should be supporting
Downald Trump and k Anans for the same reason. Yeah,
one hundred percent right, Oh at a concertop and he
should know that me appreciate everything he's doing.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
Anyway, thank you for your phone. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Let me excuse him.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
One email question, clock is sticking BC rights. Eric Adams
does not deserve any kudos at all considering the lawlessness
taking place in New York City. The NYPD under his
leadership has failed miserably and will not win a second term.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Your response, well, I don't I don't agree.
Speaker 14 (46:43):
I think the city is safer than it was, certainly
under the disastrous mayor we had three years ago. The
city crime is almost is down in almost every significant category.
But beyond the beyond that, again, I want to refocus
the audience.
Speaker 8 (46:56):
I'm talking about one thing. We have anti Semites.
Speaker 14 (47:00):
Jew hater is running around the city, protesting, threatening, bullying,
attacking Jews all over the city and the City of
New York. The mayor of the police Department is doing
everything they can to combat that, stand up for the
community and speak out against it.
Speaker 8 (47:14):
That is what I'm speaking about.
Speaker 14 (47:16):
It is heartening to know that we have a mayor,
especially with the high holidays approaching, the high holidays approaching,
that is working with this community. He understands what the
issues are, he understands the pressure we're under. He understands
the anti semitism, and it's not his fault that is
anti semitism in the city. He is standing up for us,
he's listening to us, He's concerned about us, and that
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is all I am saying.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
And another one, by the way, you Bruce, you made
a very important point before they want to talk about
now is not just Mayor Eric Adams. There are a
lot of elected officials that have gone on a limb
supporting Israel, and you speak to some of them and
they will tell you that the male, the email, the
phone calls coming into their office is anti Israel. Not
enough people are saying thanks you. And I'll tell you
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about that.
Speaker 8 (48:01):
THEV one thousand per Zev. You should know that.
Speaker 14 (48:03):
You know there are certain Jewish organizations that take elected
officials on trips to Israel's, missions to Israel's I've spoken
to some of these elected officials that hate mail that
they get. Their offices are flooded with emails and phone calls.
I don't think people really realize how serious this the
problem of anti Semitism is in this city, and how
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these politicians, a lot of them are subjected to organized
groups that go after them if they say anything this
point of Israel. The easy thing to do, and this
is the points that have the simple and easy thing
to do is to say nothing at all. People here
represent New York, they don't represent Israel. A lot of
these elected officials could say nothing.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
And the problems a lot of people who hate Israel
get on the phone, send emails and contact elected officials
and we don't say thank you. And I just want
to say there was a gentleman. I think his name
was Pharaoh Maizell. He was worth Ofox. He was a
program director at Channel nine. Had interviewed him. They did
a specially maybe in Israel sixty I don't remember the
exact year, and they did a wonderful all day special
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showing the greatness of Israel. When I interviewed him after
the broadcast, I say, will you do it again?
Speaker 6 (49:10):
He goes, absolutely not. I go why not? He goes?
People call it to complain.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Nobody calls to say thank you, And I think that's
a lie that we have to learn from elected officials.
If they're going out on a limb, if they're supporting
our community, we have to say thank you. And I
think it's a great point. But saying thank you, how
do you should people say thank you?
Speaker 8 (49:28):
Bruce?
Speaker 6 (49:29):
Here's the question? Should be calling him? How should they
do it?
Speaker 8 (49:32):
It's very simple. You can email city hall. Call city Hall.
Speaker 14 (49:36):
The number is on any you go on the website,
call him, email him, send them a letter. When you
see him in the city in a parade or at
an event, thank him. That's what you need to do.
Let me tell you one other things up. I think
you were there this year at the Issual Day parade. Yes,
you were there. Did you see the security that the
mayor ordered for that parade?
Speaker 6 (49:53):
Did you say it was heavy?
Speaker 17 (49:55):
It was.
Speaker 14 (49:57):
Unprecedented, unprecedented. Those are the kinds of things that are importing.
But to say thank you, you can email them, call him,
write a letter, call city who all all sorts of
things you can do. You see him, just walk up
to them, mister mayor, thank you for supporting the Jewish community.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
That's the end of the story.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
No, absolutely, Now, how are you getting your message whereus?
You're promoting it here of Quesse on this program. Where
else are you? Are you out?
Speaker 8 (50:21):
Previously?
Speaker 14 (50:22):
By the way back, I think it was in January
we placed the series of ads and newspapers thanking the
mayor because after the October seventh master he spoke out forcefully,
eloquently and repeatedly.
Speaker 8 (50:34):
I had put some ads in certain papers. I've done
that now.
Speaker 14 (50:37):
I did it previously with some other members of the
Jewish community, and hopefully, as if we've talked about this,
I like to do it more. I think it's important,
especially now because he's under some pressure right now and
there are things happening he needs listen it's a very
very big Jewish value. Stand up for your friends, haikara
tatov and when your friends in need, especially when the
friends in need, it's important, especially then to say we're
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with you and we're gonna support you, and that's all
I'm trying to do.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
And listen, I commend you for doing that, and to
say thank you is a wonderful thing. Can they do more?
Can you do better? That's another issue. But if they
go on a limb, we have an obligation not just
to marry Eric Adam's but to others elected officials and
to say them Richard Torris example, even Christian Gillibrand has
gone on a limb. And for Israel, we have to
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really go on a limb and say thank you. That's
the least we can do.
Speaker 8 (51:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 14 (51:28):
And by the Richie Torres you mentioned, Congresman Torre is
one of the greatest friends of Israel, huge, huge, huge, huge,
right great, And I can tell you because Richie's a friend,
he knows he appreciates the support he gets.
Speaker 8 (51:41):
It's very important.
Speaker 14 (51:42):
Politicians need to know that people are supporting them. Otherwise,
you know a lot of them may not go in a limit.
They may just say nothing.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Absolutely correct, Bruce Tabo, former chieve of SAPs. So you're
spending most of the day in real estate. Correct, I'm trying.
You know, it's tough. Got to keep the head above water.
Do what you can. You know, you know, if you
know the routine, I know, I know. It's good to
have you back. It's been a long time, so we appreciate.
We got to get you back more often to look
at them and seth.
Speaker 14 (52:08):
You know what I remember I told you earlier is
I remember doing this twenty thirty years ago when New
Jersey and we were together a lot during the old
Giuliani days, and that was great. Times are different. I
appreciate what you do. You're a great voice for the community.
You've been around for a long time. Sterling, superb, excellent show,
audience is great.
Speaker 8 (52:27):
I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Thank you, we'll have you back again. And then really
thank you for coming up with the idea of corsto
to Mayor Eric Adams. He deserves that speaking out whatever
other issues out there concerning him, does not take away
from the fact that we have an obligation, a religious
obligation to say thank you for people who do good
for our community.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
Especially before the Jewish New Year. So thank you, Bruce Sef.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
Thank you have a very happy health of New Year.
Thank you so much.
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