Gabe Geller of Kedem Wines; Alex Gold on Camp Dora Golding, Oldest Jewish Camp in America

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It's the oldest Jewish camp actually was the first Jewish
camp in America. As the oldest Jewish camp in America
and the celebrating one hundred years, Alice Golder, director of

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First?

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Welcome back to the program. I'm Zev Brenn. As always
great to have Gabe Gelo with us, director of public Relations,
Manager of Wine Education for kenem ORYLD Wines. You want
to know what wine to drink? Well, this is the
person to ask. Welcome back. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 15 (06:33):
It's great to be back home and looking forward to.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I'm looking forward to eight days and eight nights. So
let me ask you this question, and you probably get
this post you every single year. What is the best
wine to drink with latchis.

Speaker 15 (06:48):
That's wrink guess anything that's you know, an any dry
sparking wine, So it can be something, it can be
from a different place, like an israel dry sparking wine is.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
The best that Okay? Is there in a particular sparkling
wine that you would recommend? There's so many out there
these days.

Speaker 15 (07:08):
I know I could recommend you know, something of course,
like Querca in California sparking wine, but again it's kanaka
and especially now, you know, I think that it's great
to highlight these ready wines. There's a winery called Raziel.
It was created by the ben Zakin family, which I

(07:30):
found that the Mendic Castel Winery arguably Israel's most prestigious winery.
And then there are Raziel Winery, which is located in Rama, Brazil,
which is a small village that's about ten minutes out
sort of Jerusalem. They have their their new small boutique
winery where they make wines from from all sorts of

(07:54):
great varieties and styles, and among those they make great
Champagne style sparking wines. They have the santastic white parking
wine and the rose one both would be excellent the
Resio sparking wines.

Speaker 9 (08:10):
Both would be excellent with good choices.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Now I'm not sure which. To me, I love the
lot is better than the Soggio to donuts, but some people,
of course konko means a big celebration. What wines work
best with the donuts?

Speaker 15 (08:27):
Great question. There is several answers, but I think that
again I would remain within the sparking wine category, but
we're doing something very different. I would recommend, for instance,
the Bartanura sparking most capitol rose, which you know, the
combination of night sweetness, the bubbles, the acidity and the

(08:49):
flavors of the wine together with with doughnuts would go great.
Of course, doughnuts to go with the traditional you know,
strawberry or raspberry jam, filling the dark of the room
with the with the ideal. As long as you stay
with the sweet selling, that should work quite navy. But
nowadays you have you have places setting dolants, filled brisket

(09:13):
and also some things like that, in which case you
could you could play around a little more and expend
the options that that you could consider drinking with those
with those dots.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
And there are eight nights, so you can experiment with
different kinds of sparkly wines each night, or whatever wine
you choose.

Speaker 15 (09:34):
That's right, every night, different wine, different type of donuts.

Speaker 12 (09:38):
An idea of product.

Speaker 15 (09:39):
I will be just twenty pounds here.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
As opposed I supposed any other Jewish holiday when you lose.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
Weight, exactly right now.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
You catam of course destruits lots of great quality wines
from Israel and around the world. But there's a wonderful
one which I discussed before we start our discussion from Israel,
from Carmel tell us about that one sure that.

Speaker 15 (10:03):
Came out number of months ago as the camel signature
black Cabernet Sauvignon, very nice Cabernetevigno from the Upper Gallady
in Israel, Vigni arts that have been under a lot
of tesla fire in the past, in the past year.

(10:24):
And it's really it's really a nice wine, full buddied
and reach and yet quite affordable. Still retails around thirty dollars,
which for the quality is very very reasonable.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, it's a good choice. It's a great wine. And
of course, as you said, for Khonka, what wonderful thing
would be to drink as much as rarely wine as
you can celebrate the holiday and celebrate Israel and the
great miracle. And we are seeing miracles today, thank God.
Compared to what is a year ago, it's much different scenario.
Is it time to celebrate more than we have in

(10:58):
the past?

Speaker 15 (10:59):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I have gel one of wish you and your family
are happy, and I know you're going to be trying.
But you've cased everything before, right, So do you do
you ever bring anything at the table that you've never
had before?

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Oh?

Speaker 15 (11:11):
Very often. I try, maybe not every shots, but at
least every other shotess. I try some brand new wines
at my at my shoppess table. I always have enough
different wines at hand that if I do not particularly
like a new offering, I can I can switch to

(11:32):
something else. I usually have a rather good intuition, so
to speech, uh and uh. I'm rarely disappointed to the
point that I would need to open a different ball
because I don't like the previous one.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I would love to see your wine. So how large
is your wine collection at home? Must be great.

Speaker 15 (11:54):
Let's just say that I need a beer house.

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Exactly. Well, that should that should be your biggest problem.
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Welcome back to the program, moms, Zev Brenner. Camping is
such an important part of education. In fact, it might
even be more important to go to school. Cam Doorgolding
is celebrating one hundred years. They were the first Jewish
camp in America, setting the standards where today you have
a whole proliferation of Jewish camps with us. Right now
is Alice gold director of Camp Dora Golding. He's been

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affiliated with the camps for thirty seven years, director for
thirty years. Welcome to the program, Thank you for joining us,
Thank you. Camping is so important. As I said, it
really sets the tone for a holy board. You can
do in three four weeks of camping. I think schools
ny Sheibas can't always do in a whole year.

Speaker 9 (18:26):
That's one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 17 (18:28):
I tell parents all the time, pick any camp you want,
make sure you send your child to camp.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
It's the best investment you're going to make for your child.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Now, it's impressive that Camp Dora Golding's really set the tone,
set the standard for camps. Jewish camps in America having
been found a one hundred years where you're celebrating one
hundred years of the camp. So tell us about the beginning,
because one hundred years ago the wind as many Jews
in America wear, the many observant Jews in this country.
So how did Camp Door Golden get started?

Speaker 17 (18:54):
This lady named Dora Golding in eineteen twenty five took
many children from the streets of New York on the
Lower East Side to a place called Deal, New Jersey.
It was originally called Camp Deal and you had to
be poor, and she funded the whole operation.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's before the Syrian Jews got there.

Speaker 17 (19:10):
Yeah, the property is probably worth a couple billion dollars
down there in Deal. But in any case, I don't
know where it is anymore, and I'm sure they built
a lot of houses around there. But she took children
to camp. You had to go there, and you were
there for one or two weeks at a time. She
funded the entire operation. She paid for everything. A lot
of the children that were there remember her. She used

(19:31):
to come with a stretch limo with her driver and
she used to take the kids to the pool with
the limo. Again, I wasn't there, but they have fond
memories of her.

Speaker 9 (19:41):
They made sure that they had food, and she made
she bought them clothing. And it was for children at
that time who really could not afford to do anything.
And she really funded the entire operation.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
So at what point did it move from Deal to
the Catskills.

Speaker 17 (19:56):
To the Poconos. In nineteen sixty seven, camp was getting
bigger and bigger and bigger, so she purchased this piece
of property in East Strousburg, Pennsylvania, and they changed your
name from Camp Deale to Camp Dora Golding.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
They named the camp in honor of her.

Speaker 17 (20:11):
She I Guess passed on and they made the camp
in honor of her and was funded, and that's how
the camp took off.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Now you've been at the Helm for thirty years, you've
been part of the camp for thirty seven years. How
has Jewish camping changed in the time that you've been
at the Helm?

Speaker 9 (20:29):
The whole world has changed with everything.

Speaker 17 (20:32):
In the good old days, we didn't even have emails,
We didn't have all these fancy trips.

Speaker 9 (20:36):
We didn't have all the things.

Speaker 17 (20:38):
One of the things that we have to be careful
of is cell phones and the communication devices and camping.
That takes away from the real camping experience.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I assume you don't allow cell phones for campers except
on certain times so as they go on the trip.

Speaker 17 (20:52):
For example, for a younger child, we don't allow any
cell phones or any screens whatsoever. The older children, they'll
get it once a week on a Friday.

Speaker 9 (21:00):
The staff can use them, you know, when they needed to.

Speaker 17 (21:03):
But you got to keep that out of the out
of the camp, otherwise they will not focus on what
camp does for a child. We want them on the courts,
we want them on the fields. We want them learning,
We want them dobbinings, singings, MirOS. We wanted to have
a good time. What the camp has to offer. Our
best season, believe it or not, was in twenty twenty
during COVID.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
During COVID, my camp was open because.

Speaker 17 (21:27):
We were in the state of Pennsylvania and we were
allowed to open our camp, and we opened it and
there was no visiting day, there were no trips, no anything.
Once you came to camp, you stayed in camp and
the gate got locked. And it was probably the best
season we've ever ever had because there was nothing from
the outside. They did best, you know, the camping was
at its best, just baseball, learning, friends, dobbining. We didn't

(21:50):
have to go to our fancy trip down to who
knows where to, you know, to make the kids happy.
They were just happy to be in camp. Unfortunately, unfortunately
COVID went away. But unfortunately we have to go back
to the regular routine of going on the outside trips,
et cetera.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Oh, can you try to do a lockdown again? It
wouldn't work with parents these days.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
I don't know if I'll work for the kids.

Speaker 17 (22:11):
I don't think the children will come to camp if
they're not going out of camp, you know, for at
least for an adventure or two.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
But it was a very memorable season. And we really
really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
So tell us about who is coming, who are your campers? Like,
is it one particular branch of the Orthodx Jewish community
is a diverse give us an idea.

Speaker 17 (22:29):
It's a diverse group of campers from all over the
country and the United States. We'll have a lot of
children from the Five Towns and from Teaneck and Brooklyn,
mund See, basically where all the Jewish people live. We're
even having campers from Jackson and Lakewood. That has also
turned to a different direction. And you know, we have
children from Chicago and Florida, Saint Louis, Baltimore, Philadelphia. So

(22:51):
as long as you're from Jewish boy and you want
a good camping experience, we offer that at Dorogolding.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
But it could be a challenge because if you have,
for example, kids from the Five Towns or teenage which
may be more modern worthatos On Lake with a little
bit more Yeshivash or a lot more Yeshivish. So how
do you navigate between the different strains of religious observance.

Speaker 17 (23:11):
Well, the camp is strictly glack Kosher, Hall of You Strial.
We do all the dobbtings, do all the MirOS, do
all the trips, do everything that any camp does, and
you just have to be comfortable with a diverse background.
That's what made the camp so special over all the
years is that we've taken children from all walks of
life and you actually open the eyes to different people,

(23:32):
different families, and you have to be okay with it.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
But I like that I haven't gone to a similar
kind of camp bug and a rum, which doesn't exist anymore.
Your kids from different backgrounds, but today's world, people tend
to segmatize where they go. I belonged to this religious group,
I belong to this classic group. I have to only
be with the same kind in the yeshivas. So it's
nice to see as a camp you're able to get
across the spectrum because the trend is moving away from that.

Speaker 17 (23:58):
Correct And you know, I get a kid who he's
a very sheepish boy with pay us and he's in sommer,
or he's a kid in a lake with hater or
something like that. We might not get those type of children,
but we will get children from all over from Tarbordas
tart Mima to you know, Hold South Shore Yeshiva, North Jersey,
across the spectrum from Tarres Emmerson, Florida.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
So there are a lot of a lot of different
walks of life now.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Camping has changed. Where when I went to camp it
was different. Today people expecting, you know, what kinds of
modern facilities and all kinds of air conditioning and bunks
and et cetera. So let's look at that, because how
with camping is not as what it used to be.
It's a little more luxurious for the kids than it
was thirty years ago when you began.

Speaker 17 (24:42):
It is luxurious, and part of it is my fault
because I was probably the first camp to put air
conditioning in the bunk houses back in two thousand and five.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
And you know, we put in everything modernized.

Speaker 17 (24:53):
Our shool is brand new, our dining room is brand new,
our gymnasium is brand new. All the bunks are brand new.
Even the US and Camp they have built in furniture.
It's not like those old beds where I used to
run to camp the first day to get that best bed.
They're all good beds. They're all built in. They all
have their own outlets, their own windows. They don't have
extension cords running across the entire bunk house to the

(25:16):
one outlet in the corner. Like when I was growing up.
We even put a safe in each bunk for their valuables.
They have a refrigerator, air conditioning of course, separate shower
stalls and privacy, so the children really gain a lot
and they have a lot at door Golding's facilities.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Baby. Some of the camps they were talking about doing
fracking because it was sitting on shale, which could have
been a lucrative for them. Is that are you sitting
on that as well?

Speaker 17 (25:42):
I don't know for sitting on it. If someone lets
me know we're on it, they'll be good to know.
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Speaker 3 (25:50):
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Speaker 17 (26:13):
Our motto is we don't turn anyone down. We work
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Speaker 3 (32:01):
We're looking at camping and Alex gold as well as
thirty seven years of Camp Dover Golding thirty years as director.
They're celebrating a hundred years of being a business. They
started the trend for Kosha camping in America. So you're
celebrating one hundred years. So what is the celebration going
to be like? Do you have anybody that attended a
hundred years ago or anybody that the oldest camp are around?

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Have you been able to find such a person?

Speaker 17 (32:24):
I found a few from nineteen twenty five, thirty five,
forty five. It is going to be a little hard,
but a lot of people are answering our ads and
telling us what's going on. You know, where they are,
and they all have always had good memories of what
happened when they were a camper. Most people do have
a good memory whichever camp they go to. It's just
a fun atmosphere. And we're looking for any of the

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older people that were there and back in the thirties
and forties and the fifties, you know, a lot of
people have attended Camp literally just a my jurisdiction alone,
in thirty years, I probably have thirty thousand people that
came to camp.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's a lot. Wow, thirty thousand amazing. So you're going
to have a dinner, a special event where you're going
to celebrate the hundred years and some of those people
that were early campers would come participate in that event.

Speaker 17 (33:13):
We're going to have an event in Camp this summer.
That's the best place to hold it, not in some
hall here in New York. We're going to have a day,
probably a Sunday, and everyone's going to be invited.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
We could probably have a nice, fancy.

Speaker 17 (33:26):
Concert and carnivals and things for the children and for
the families, and the dinner, and there'll be a nice
day and for people to come back to see what
we've done over the last at least of my tenure
of thirty years. You know, when a child was in
Camp thirty years ago, he was ten years old. Now
he's forty years old, so he has a nice opportunity
to come see, you know, what the camp did, how

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it transformed. It's a magnificent facility with amenities from everything
you can dream.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Of do you ever consider maybe having a weekend maybe
before the summer, right after the summer. We're just for
the old campers out, you know, the children, just the
old campers come and celebrate together, reunion.

Speaker 17 (34:05):
It's a possibility. We didn't we didn't finalize that at all.
I get asked all the time, can I open up
the camp for adults?

Speaker 9 (34:11):
You know, they want to come back to camp, and.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
They're coming popular, becoming popular these days, it.

Speaker 17 (34:15):
Is, but they want to come without the spouse. They
just want to come themselves for like two or three days.
They want to play baseball, they want to play basketball,
they want to go to the pool, have a little
color war. It's probably very popular. We do need someone
to run it, uh, in order in order to make
it happen. But after running camp for eight weeks, I'm
tired at the end.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Of the summer.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
It's a full year occupation, right, yeah.

Speaker 9 (34:36):
Full year. Everybody asked all the time, what do you do?
You know?

Speaker 17 (34:39):
I tell them I'm a camp director, and what do
you do the rest of the year. And I used
to explain to people what I used to do, but
they never understood it. So now I just tell them
I just work two months a year.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
You're a casual faith for the rest of the ten months.

Speaker 17 (34:52):
And then the next question is do you make enough
money in those two months? So so I said, yeah,
eat your heart out, and that's the way it goes.
But in essence and all joking around, I work every
single day. It's any any popular camp that's out there,
you're working full a full year to make it happen.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
And the third question is how much money to make
because people like to know everything, right, Yeah, okay, that's
our people.

Speaker 17 (35:15):
We're not millionaires, but we're very happy with what we
do and we enjoy what we enjoy the benefits of camp.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Now, you mentioned that about doing the reunions. Some of
the campers said, let's have a special camp without the
wives because Camp Dorogol is only for boys. But you
did start a girls camp as well what nineteen ninety.

Speaker 17 (35:33):
Right in nineteen ninety we felt that we wanted to
have a sister camp for all the boys that come here.
By David Himber, the past executive director, was the one
who started at and put it together. So this year
will be the thirty fifty year that Camp Dina is open.
It used to be in Monsey, New York, believe it
or not, en Route three Toho six near two O two.

Speaker 9 (35:55):
And then we sold that and we moved to Pennsylvania.

Speaker 17 (35:59):
And then after that we bought the Philadelphia seventy six
ers basketball camp, and we move the girls camp to
its new location, which is approximately twenty minutes from the
boys camp by car.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
So nobody can walk because otherwise you're going to say something.
They want to walk there, So it's twenty minutes by car.

Speaker 9 (36:14):
Right right, So it's about twenty minutes.

Speaker 17 (36:16):
And it's a beautiful facility, holds about four hundred and
fifty girls, very popular, just like Door Golding is. And yeah,
if they have a brother and a sister, they can
go to both camps and they can come the same
visiting day and they get to see both facilities.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
How many children does Camp Door Golding hold on the
summer About six hundred children? Well, a lot, And you
get you have to turn people away or we.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
Always turn people away. We try not to.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Can you expand the camp?

Speaker 17 (36:44):
We expanded it from when I started it used to
be about two hundred and eighty boys, and over the
last thirty years it went from two hundred and eighty
to six hundred, so it's a lot of boys and
it's not too many, but it's a perfect number to
round the camp.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
So what's your biggest challenge in running the camp?

Speaker 9 (37:02):
That's a good question.

Speaker 17 (37:03):
Every year presents a different challenge every year, there's always
something going on.

Speaker 9 (37:08):
But Barcasham, it's good.

Speaker 17 (37:10):
You have to just have good staff and good children
and good campers and you have to have good caretakers
and if you have that type of staff, you're in good.
Jay Barkersham, I feel very confident. I'm blessed with a
lot of good people that work here and they make
my job a lot easier.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Now you mentioned before that things have changed in camp
and you have to have air conditioning, this social media today,
and I know lots of pictures being taken. I would
assume one hundred years ago, I don't know what the
picture situation. Certainly wasn't any video. Maybe there was some
eight millimeter film or whatever. So what's the earliest pictures
and photos or videos do you have going back during

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the hundred years of camp Regalding has been in existence.

Speaker 17 (37:53):
I have for sure the last thirty years. But there
are some old videos on some old reels or film
and slides, and we're actually trying to get it all
off of there into something more presentable and so we
can view it and see it. We do have a
few pictures of Dora Golding herself and some campers. There's

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a bunch of film that they have. But in those days,
I don't know if they even had video cameras and
all that stuff, but.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
They may have had handheld cameras, so but it was
a lot more primitive and a lot less people had
access to it one hundred years ago.

Speaker 17 (38:30):
Right, Well, I wasn't around one hundred years ago, so
I really can't tell you too much what happened then.
But you know, in the sixties seventies, they definitely had pictures,
and we do have a lot of those pictures and films,
and we're also asking the public whoever went to Campdoor
Golding on our website, if you go to campdoor Golding
dot com to you know, submit whatever you have so
we can put it together and show the world.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Now you've been running an ad campaign letting people know
about the one hundred year anniversary, I'm sure you probably
do something when you have the special date were you're
going to have the reunion for the one hundred year celebration.
What kind of reaction have you gotten and what kind
of interesting stories have you heard from people that attended
Camp door Golding during the past century.

Speaker 17 (39:12):
Well, the biggest popular story was Door Golding herself with
her limo driver. Everyone remembers a limo and her back
in nineteen twenty five. To have a limousine and a chauffeur,
you had to be very very well off, and she
funded a lot. She gets a lot of sussom for
doing what she did. Those are the biggest things, but

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you know, every person has their own things that were
important to them, whether they were in the talent show,
or they were the best learner, or they were best
in bunk, or they were the best swimmer, or they
were invest in sports. So everybody has different memories about
what they perceived, what they enjoyed, and that's what their
memories are about.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Sounds fascinating and certain. We'd love to hear more about
the actual celebration, especially if you bring in some of
the old campers. What's the old by the way, because
I know nobody's there, so it was there one hundred
years ago, But what's the oldest camper that you're in
touch with.

Speaker 17 (40:06):
I'm in touch with people basically under my domain, you know,
the thirty years and also when I was a camper
in Campdoro Golding myself. So for example, Yitstuck Sapplus, who
runs bottom Line Marketing, was actually a counselor working for
me in.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Camp Oh very nice, very nice.

Speaker 17 (40:22):
And Yakov Gerber who works there as well, he was
also in Camp Thoro Golding. So the people that I
knew that I was there with, I'm.

Speaker 9 (40:30):
In touch with.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
But I'm trying to ask her tain because you're doing
a campaign letting old campers reach out to you, have
you heard what's the oldest camper that you've heard from
and to somebody that you might tap into the celebration.
So I'm curious to know if somebody who's a seventy
five year old or an eight year old individual that
might have been there that has recollections which might be
good for the historical record.

Speaker 9 (40:51):
There's a person named mister Hirschowitz.

Speaker 17 (40:52):
I don't know these people personally because it's before my time,
so they are compiling that. I don't really have that
information yet because we're still doing the campaign and that
information will come. If we have another meeting on our radio,
then I could let you know all that information as well.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Terrific. I'm looking forward. Maybe we should broadcast live the celebration.
It's pretty interesting. I love camping by I think it's
so important, more important and listen. I'm a big believer
in Jewish education, like push people go to yeshivas and
day school. I think the biggest challenge that American jewsh
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can't go to school, camp is like such an important
factor in shaping individual not just in the Orthodox, even
the Conservative community. You hear people saying that they're going
to camp had such an impact on their lives Jewishly.
So every Jewish kid and every Jewish child should be
going to a Jewish camp.

Speaker 17 (41:44):
There are a lot of places that are pushing camping,
the foundation of Jewish camping One happy Camper. They're pushing
the kids to go to camp, and everyone should have
an opportunity.

Speaker 9 (41:55):
To go to a sleepoway camp.

Speaker 17 (41:56):
It's a it's a changing experience for a child four weeks,
two weeks, a little bit.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
During the summer.

Speaker 17 (42:02):
Anyone who's listening to this they need some help and
they can't afford it, or they would like to come
to camp, feel free to reach out to us and
we'll try to make it.

Speaker 12 (42:09):
Happen for you.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Where can people get more information about Campdoor Golding and
the celebration.

Speaker 17 (42:14):
Well, the all the information is on our website at
campdoorogolding dot com, the Girls Campus CAMPDNA dot com. The
celebration we will be posting as it gets closer, probably
in the new year, once January comes, for the specific
date and the program and what to expect and what
you can come and see and experience.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
When is Campdena having a celebration? Thirty years also milestone,
but you can't do both for thirty one hundred years
at the same time. So what's the plans for Campdena.

Speaker 17 (42:41):
They're having a good time, maybe they we'll invite them
to come celebrate at the Boys Camp. I don't know
how that's going to go over that well, but we'll
figure that out. It's actually thirty five years, I believe
thirty five years nineteen ninety so it's thirty five years.
That's you know, big milestone also and maybe for the
fiftieth year, we'll have a big party for for Camfino.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Alice Gold, director of Campdor golding for thirty years, affiliated
with the camp for thirty seven years and is celebrating
one hundred year anniversary being the first Jewish Sleepway camp
in America. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 9 (43:14):
Thank you.

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of other places of southern California markets because it's all
natural and women out there love it as well.

Speaker 7 (49:59):
So are completely American based.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Now, wonderful. Where do you see the company going? Actually?

Speaker 19 (50:04):
Where our mission is just to change the category of
the market. It's just it's not logical that women will
go to the pharmacy and get something that it's so
generic that it's made for both men and women.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
We're different.

Speaker 19 (50:18):
We're suffering from constipation three times more than men. So
why why should you buy something that is not formulated
for us.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
It's scared for women, but men can use it.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
If they can use it, you know, they can use it.

Speaker 19 (50:31):
But the herbs are very good for the female body,
for the female cycles. For the hormones, for the hormones
of the women. And yes, it's it's it's for us.
We're proud to be a female, we're female founders, and
it's it's a product that it's just for women. And yeah,
it's about time to have something that is just for women.

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And also going to be at the Expost in a Irvin,
California on March. We're making a huge event a very
nice booth. You're only invited. I invite you here all right,
join us with this amazing gay journey. We're Jewish, Jewish moms,
Jewish woman who wants to change the world.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Oh, terrific. Listen, you do wonderful work. I remember when
we met few years ago, and I'm glad to see
the company has grown and grown and grown. If people
want to get more information and learn more about your product,
how can they do so?

Speaker 22 (51:23):
They can go to our website digest live dot com,
diges live dot com, simple as that, or just Google
Digest Live. We have Instagram at your poopcasm. You're welcome
to follow us. We post content all the time. You
can find our stores.

Speaker 7 (51:36):
It's as easy as that.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Exactly wonderful. It's a great product, and I know glad
to see that it's expanding and growing and continuous success.

Speaker 7 (51:43):
Yes, thank you, it's been a pleasure to speak with
you today as well.

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