FULL SHOW: Letitia James indicted; Johnny Carson's legacy.

Over 30 people, including NBA players, have been arrested on federal gambling-related investigations. Mark interviews comedian and writer Mark Malkoff. Mark has a new book out called " Love Johnny Carson". The book highlights moments from Johnny's life on The Tonight Show and off-air action. Andrew Cuomo's polling numbers have been climbing since Mayor Eric Adams endorsed him. Mark interviews pollster John McLaughlin. John breaks down the real polls you should look at regarding President Trump's job performance. So far, Republicans are maintaining seats through the midterms, according to McLauglin’s knowledge.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is seven tor Boy. The Mark Simoon Show starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, it's Friday. Tomorrow, the election begins. The mayor all
election begins tomorrow. Early voting starts tomorrow and goes for
ten days. The election itself is a week from Tuesday.
It's almost here. Andrew Cuomo has picked up steam. He
had a good debate performance, which is unusual. He usually

(00:33):
is pretty bad in those debates. But some people think
he got shot up with some of that Joe Biden injection.
You'll suddenly give him some energy, some speed, and so
he was pretty good in that debate. Curtis most just
about everybody agrees won the debate. On content, on issues,

(00:54):
Curtis the winner. But but Cuomo energetic for the first time,
actually able to talk smoothly for the first time. Not great,
not great to mom Donni. Still a better debater. But
since then, Clomo's picked up a little steam. I don't
know if it's enough. It may be way too late.
Eric Adams has endorsed Cuomo. Why does Eric Adams suddenly

(01:18):
endorse Cuomo? He just five minutes ago was calling him literally,
called him a snake and a liar. Well, as you know,
there were billionaires, zillionaires, big big, big, big money donors,
trying to help Cuomo like crazy, trying to bribe Curtis
out of the race, trying to bribe Eric Adams out
of the race. A lot of money being offered to

(01:39):
a lot of people to help Cuomo. And suddenly Adams
is endorsing Cuomo. I don't know anything, you do the math,
But there was Eric Adams yesterday endorsing Cuomo.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, you criticize Andrew and you call them names, you
know what, and he called me names. But you know what,
Now it's time to fight for the family. And I'm
a fight for the family with Andrew Cuomo as the
next mayor of the City of New York. I'm fighting
for the family of New York. That's why I'm here
today to endorse Andrew Cuomo to be part of this fight.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
All right, all right, yeah, I guess that's true. Cuomo
did call him names. And the fact that Adams kept
calling Cuomo names, called him a snake and a liar.
That's really not that unusual in politics. It happens all
the time. I remember George Bush calling Reagan all kinds
of names in the primary Voodoo Economics all that stuff,
and then when he got chosen as the running mate,

(02:36):
you forget about all that. It happens all the time,
all the time, even Trump. You know, when he was
in the primaries, he was calling Rubio names. Rubio called
him names. Same thing with just about everybody in the
in the primary. So you forget all that when it
comes time for a general election. But Cuomo, I don't

(02:58):
know he thinks. I don't know how much Eric Adams
helps him. He is voting. His numbers were single digits,
so it's not a lot of votes there. But they
stood there. They even hugged each other.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I don't want to thank Mayor Adams for his support,
but more than for his support, the mayor put his
own ambition aside because he cares more about New York City.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I see a little shot at Curtis there.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
New Yorker's vote, I win. New Yorkers reject this socialism,
reject the vision. If New Yorkers vote, I win.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
No, he's back to the slow talking a little. Did
Curtis Curtis sliwa? We think Curtis would make the best mayor.
Curtis Sliwa? Did he want adams endorsement?

Speaker 6 (03:52):
I know they're going to be celebrating today, but when
I look at them today too, corrupt birds of a
feather flock together.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
They deserve one another. Yeah, no, he didn't want adams endorsement.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
The rough birds of a feather flock to get I'm
not worried about that. Anybody who was going to vote
Ferrick Adams I have to wonder with they've been these
last four years because he is the most corrupt man
in the history of New York. So, hey, Andrew Cuomo,
you can have whatever votes he had. I don't ever

(04:25):
want Eric Adams.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Votes now again. Early voting starts tomorrow, so it's just
about over. But you know, there's still a week and
a half and they're trying to push Curtis out of
the race. Those same big money donors. They have this
fantasy that if Curtis dropped out, the votes would go
to Cuomo. Most people think that's ridiculous. Most of these

(04:48):
SLIWA voters hate Cuomo. Jimmy Faylor put it best. It
said it like, if the Yankees lose and the Red
Sox win and go on to the World Series, they
Yankee fans don't start rooting for the Red sox just
doesn't just doesn't work that way. Well, get back to
the mayoral race. Lots to get to there. Leticia James,
our sleezy, dirty attorney general, is in Virginia right now.

(05:11):
She's about to go into court this morning. Looks like
she will be indicted for mortgage fraud if you look
at the documents. We assume the documents are all authentic,
and if they are, it looks like she's pretty guilty
of mortgage fraud, deceiving the bank. Now when you watch
the reports, all you hear about is Trump targeting, is targeting,

(05:31):
is political enemies. Uh, when Letitia James was indicting here,
you never heard one person say she's targeting her political enemies.
You never heard the same anchors say that Governor Kathy
Hogel jumps in to defend Leticia James. You know, there's
a lot of sleezy deals around the whocal world. That

(05:52):
stadium deal, that virus testing deal, a lot of people
that was really sleezy. She didn't need anybody looking into
that and be one reason she's being so supportive of
the attorney general. But here she was defending Letitia James.
The whole bunch of slimy Jerry Nadler type democrats on
stage with her.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
If they can do this to an attorney general of
a state like New York, heaven.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
Helped the rest of us because they can come after anyone.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, actually they do all the time. People do get
arrested and indicted for this exact same crime, this mortgage fraud.
And this is not like what Trump did. You know
what they accused Trump of doing overvaluing his apartment, which
first of all, he didn't. If you look now at
the comparable you know, that's what they do in real estate,
you look at the comparable apartments and what they sold for.
He was pretty much right with his evaluation. But if

(06:44):
you look at his case the crime, there was no crime.
He couldn't possibly have committed a crime because he knew
the bank knew, everybody knew that whatever evaluation he put
would never be seen by the bank. They would never
look at it. It says right in the documents, we're
not going to look at your numbers. We won't use
your numbers. It says right in his document, don't use

(07:04):
this number, do your own. But they all know the
bank doesn't look at your number when they want to
give you an eight hundred million dollar loan, they send
a team of appraisers. They'll come decide what the number is.
They never even look at your number. Never. Now, in
the case of Letitia James, this is a crime that
it's easy to commit because the bank only looks at

(07:27):
your number. And in the words, if you say it's
going to be my primary residence, they take your word
for it. They don't follow you around for a year.
They take your word for it. And the reason she
said it was her prime going to be our primary residence.
She'd get a much better mortgage rate, she'd get a
much better tax rate. She was saving a lot of me.
So it was clearly when you do something like this,
it's clearly to defraud the bank, and you're on your taxes.

(07:52):
So she is going to have a problem today in court.
Now they're trying to go after the prosecutor who I
was I believe a Trump attorney at one point, But
that's not unusual. Many times somebody's president and their attorney
or their legal team people like that all get appointed
as US attorneys. And then they attack her by saying,

(08:13):
even Hockel did that, she's a US attorney who has
no experience as a prosecutor. Well, that's pretty common. That
happens a lot. Chris Christy's a good example. He had
absolutely no experience as a prosecutor. I don't think he'd
ever even been in a courtroom before. But he'd been
a huge fundraiser for George W. Bush, so they appointed

(08:35):
him US attorney. Now, there's a lot of US attorneys
who are very experienced prosecutors, but there's a lot of
them get that appointment and they've never been a prosecutor.
So it's not unusual at all. But this is the
double standard the media Democrats are famous for. Another good
example is this what they're calling BDS. BDS is the
new disease. It's ballroom derangement syndrome. Liberals media melting down

(09:02):
over the ballroom, the construction which has taking place fourteen times,
the same exact corruption, a construction with the wrecking ball
and the cranes at fourteen times it's been done at
the White House. You know what's interesting the ballroom. Have
you seen the pictures of it. It's spectacular. This Versailles
like ballroom is absolutely enormous, spectacular, ornate, luxurious, three hundred

(09:28):
million when Obama did his construction. He tore out the
was it the tennis court? He tore out the tennis
courts and built a basketball court. He spent three hundred
and seventy six million, which is about four hundred and
fifty million in today's dollars. So the media totally corrupt.

(09:50):
Not one reporter, anchor, media writer New York Times, nobody
has started to ask why would a basketball court, which
is just a slab of concrete, why a basketball court
cost fifty percent more than this ballroom? It should cost
one fiftieth of what the ballroom costs. Not only did

(10:10):
it cost off more than the ballroom, Obama built it
to the tax bearers. In this case, Trump is having it,
he's paying for it, and some donors are paying for it.
So total total corruption on the part of the media,
never asking anything they should be asking. Hey, that NBA scandal.
A lot of arrests, reputed mobsters, thirteen reputed mobsters busted

(10:34):
alongside NBA stars, sweeping historic gambling bust and the NBA
terrified of this. They're tangled up in it. Players throwing games,
all sorts of stuff, four teams, four mob families, millions
and millions and millions of dollars. It's hard to believe
anybody would fall for this, though. They get a couple

(10:55):
of famous athletes to lead high rollers into this poker
game where everything is the card shuffler is rigged, the
deck is rigged, everything is rigged. This is like a real, uh,
Henry Hill, Jimmy Burke kind of a card game. Now,
what was his name of the movie, Jimmy Conway, Remember
Goodfellas Henry Hill, Jimmy Conway with that poker game. So

(11:17):
why would you if you're a big NBA star and
these guys, If you look at these guys, they've each
made like one hundred and fifty million, two hundred million,
you're multi multi, multi millionaires. Why would they get involved
in something like this? Well, it's usually two reasons. One,
they're in debt to the mob, the gambling debts or
something in debt somehow. But again, if you're worth one

(11:38):
hundred and fifty million, it's hard to believe they're in
debt to the mob. It could be that could be it,
or it could be they were involved in something else,
some other total sleazy, dirty, bad behavior, something they were
doing that the mob knew about or had something to
do with it and are blackmailing him into this. It

(11:59):
could be that too, who knows. But the bust was
pretty big yesterday. Here's a cash pttel FBI director on it.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
It's not hundreds of dollars, it's not thousands of dollars.
It's not tens of thousands of dollars. It's not even
millions of dollars. We're talking about tens of millions of
dollars in fraud and theft and robbery across a multi
year investigation.

Speaker 8 (12:23):
Yeah, the sports books themselves are victims in this case.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
They at themselves did not.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
As far as our investigation has concluded, they did not
perpetrate anything unlawful.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, now you gotta wonder are big high roller players
what are they doing in this kind of game? You
know you can bet anywhere now, they got legal betting.
They got those betting sites. You can go to Las Vegas.
You don't need to go see Jimmy Conway and Henry
Hill here.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Once the game was underway, the defendants fleeced the victims
out of tens or hundreds of.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Thousands of dollars per game.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
The defendants used a variety of very sophisticated cheating technologies,
some of which were provided by other defendants in exchange
for a share of the profits from the scheme.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
It does sound pretty good. This is going to be
one big movie one day.

Speaker 8 (13:12):
Between December twenty twenty two and March twenty twenty four,
these defendants perpetrated a scheme to defraud by betting on
inside non public information about NBA athletes and teams. The
non public information included when specific players would be sitting
out future games or when they would pull themselves out

(13:36):
early for purported injuries or illnesses.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
All right, but that's gone on before. We've seen that
through the years, and in the age of Twitter and
social media and TikTok and all that stuff, you'd think
that information would fly around a lot more than it
even does now.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Cash Betel, not only did we crack into the fraud
that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage the NBA,
but we also entered and executed a system of justice
against La Casinoshra to include the Bonano, Gambino, Geneveci and
Luchase crime families.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
La Coosa and Nostra. When is the last time you
heard that phrase?

Speaker 5 (14:16):
This is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation
that spanned the.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Course of years.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
The FBI led a coordinative takedown across eleven states to
arrest over thirty individuals today responsible for this case, which
is very much ongoing.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, pretty amazing. It's quite a story. The only problem
I wish this would happen in a few weeks from now.
The only problem with this case, it's grabbing all the headlines.
It's covering up the Letitia James indictment. In fact, the
James indictment. Last nime you were watching the news, it
was like fifteen minutes into the news because this thing
took up the whole first ten minutes. But sometime this

(14:53):
morning we'll hear that Tish James was indicted. So but
this NBA thing looks like over thirty people so far
have been indicted. You'll see more names added to that.
This will grow and mushroom and anyway, Hey, we got
a lot to get to. Hey, we'll get to Johnny Carson.
It's the one hundredth birthday of Johnny Carson, the greatest
talk show host ever, the greatest late night host. We'll
talk about him in a few minutes. Oh, we'll take

(15:14):
some calls. Next eight hundred three to two one zero
seven ten. Is the number eight hundred three to two
one zero seven ten.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Give WR A bri said on the iHeartRadio app to
hear Mark Simone and all the WR hosts in an instance.
Now back to the Mark Simo show on WR.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Hey, Well, let's take some calls. Let's go to Frank
in Phoenix. Frank, how you doing?

Speaker 9 (15:42):
Hey, Mark, how's it going?

Speaker 10 (15:44):
Mark?

Speaker 9 (15:44):
I have a question for Vincent. The question is scandal
now with.

Speaker 11 (15:50):
The mafia with this bedding, going back as far as
Luciano and Watson Youse, guys have always had an ability
to make millions of dollars. Listen, do you think these
guys would have done the same kind of business if
they were straight and narrow?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Now? Why it's why would you tie Vincent to this
kind of stuff? Anyway, we'll see if he calls. Let's
go to Kathy North Carolina. Kathy, how you doing?

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Oh I good morning, Good morning, Vincent.

Speaker 12 (16:15):
That's a good question.

Speaker 9 (16:16):
By the way, there's so many important topics, but I
want to.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
Talk about kiss because I heard your interview with Scott Shannon,
the Fabulous DJ, and he brought up that Ace Frayley
had died recently, which I didn't know until I heard
your show. That's so great you're getting pardon no, that
Ace Frayley died.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
That's great.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
No, it's not great. It's great that I learned it
from me, So thank you for d I'm sorry that
was awful. They're getting, you know, nominated, or they're for
the Lincoln Center thing. But anyway, I wanted to give
you my quick Ace Frayley story because he did want
and it was fabulous. Scott Shannon told a great story.
But they were just they eat, breathed, and ate, you know,

(17:00):
rock and roll all night and party every day. I
spent a weekend with him on tour too.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
You spent a weekend with kiss Huh?

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Yeah, I know that's but anyway, but for but in
memory of Ace, my story is that I was I was, uh,
we were trying to figure out what to do for
the weekend because they go, we gotta we.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Got to get right to the story. We don't have
this kind of time, Okay.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
So anyway, I said, let's go to Disney World. It's
you know, rides, and it's going to be too long.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
We'll never get to this just get.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
Right to the good part, he said, Baby, I am
disney World anyway, long live.

Speaker 9 (17:31):
Yes, there you.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Go, Baby, I am Disney World.

Speaker 10 (17:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I mean I met the guy a few times. He
didn't look like maybe maybe great adventure. I don't think
he was Disney World, but who knows. Let's go to
Mike and Florida. Mike, how you doing?

Speaker 9 (17:48):
Wait a minute, this is gonna be go ahead, go ahead,
good morning. Hi, bark kissed too. The question about I
want to ask you about heavy Como. I was from
the King.

Speaker 12 (17:58):
I stumbled, course too, of my favorite songs by him,
Round and Round the best.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Hey, you know what you you have to call us back.
Not your fault. Something screwed up with it. We have
these we have these digital phones. That's why sometimes it
sounds so sped up. Let's go to Oh there is
Vincent and Brooklyn Vincent. How you doing?

Speaker 10 (18:16):
Good morning? Mark? Can you hear me? Okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know it's always that line, line eight, It's always
on that line where that stuff happened.

Speaker 10 (18:23):
Yeah. I called once. I called a couple of minutes ago,
and or immediately dropped and I called back from Christ
fool me and I don't know what this world is
coming to. Jesus Christ. Can't these guys even just be
honest gangsters in payout? And I say that because fifty
years ago, back in the day, I ran a gambling joint.

(18:44):
I'm shocked, and there was there was none of those
shenanigans going on. In fact, I would even fund one
of usually one of the players at one of the
tables was funded by me. And what we would do
is whatever I would get sixty percent, I would give
him forty percent. But there was no cheating, none of those,

(19:07):
none of those shenanigans going on. I checked everybody when
they came in for weapons and stuff. I made the
the women opened their pocketbook to see if they had
anything in there. And as low as long as you
were playing in my place, the food that drinks.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Everything was the executive.

Speaker 10 (19:25):
Game, yeah, exactly, every Saturday night at twelve o'clock, and
it was you had to be You couldn't just come,
you had to be a member.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
And it was like Tony Soprano with an executive game.
But let me ask you a question, if you just
did a normal poker game like Tony Sopranos or Henry hill,
and you would make a nice profit, wouldn't you.

Speaker 10 (19:47):
Yeah, because I got a cut on every on every pot,
I got a cut, So I got a cut no
matter what.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I see your plate. Why do you need to cheat?

Speaker 10 (19:54):
Then that's what I'm saying. I don't know, that's what
I'm saying. It's it's not. I knew a woman up
the street and when I was a kid, I used
to deliver the food to her house. She had a
game where people would come from all over and she
would pay. This was before ubers that lift. She would

(20:15):
pay your cost service or a limousine to take you
to the game because you had to have so much
to sit at the table. And the game went on
all night, and food and drink, everything was free as
long as you were playing. And she paid out. You know,
none of the Shenanigan because they're making it. I was

(20:38):
making it out no matter what I was making it
that I got a cut of every part that was playing.
So I hadn't coming and going, so there was no
need to do stuff like that. And I don't need
that found if somebody found out somebody was cheating, I
don't want nobody a shot or stamped in front of

(20:59):
my place. Oh uh no, it was to all the
people I know. Did it on me. I even had
a game in a hotel, the hotel Saint George that Maren.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Knows that where the executive game was Tony Soprano. Remember
it was in a hotel.

Speaker 10 (21:14):
Exactly every week it changed up, Yeah, changed the room
and I would pay off the house sticks. They old
day Me and every very good vincent.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Excellent call, very informative. Hey, we got to take a
break for the news. But coming up, it's Johnny Carson's
one hundredth birthday. There's all kinds of celebrations and in
honor of that, a new book is out. It is
the definitive book on Johnny Carson. It is the most detailed,
fascinating book. We'll talk to the author next on seven

(21:45):
to ten w O R.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Marximon on sevent ten w R.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, Hey, if you're a big Johnny Carson fan, listen carefully.
First of all, there's a thing called the Carson Podcast.
It's excellent. It's everything you could ever know about Johnny Carson.
Mark Malkoff the host. He's done like six hundred episodes
interviewing everybody that was ever on the Tonight Show. Worked
at the Tonight Show. Listen, start listening to it the
Carson Podcast. Now that all turned into a book. It

(22:13):
just came out this week. The book is called Love
Johnny Carson. It is the most detailed, fascinating, never before
told story of Johnny Carson The Tonight Show. It's called
Love Johnny Carson. You can order it right now. Here's
the author, Mark Malkoff. Mark Malkoff, How you doing.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
Mark?

Speaker 12 (22:34):
It is so good to talk to you.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 12 (22:37):
And I have to tell you your expertise on this book.
I mean, you're very generous. You say that you knew
everything about Johnny Carson, and I was the one person
that presented all these new things to you and some
other people. But your expertise on Carsons this sounds me.
I'm grateful for your help in this book, and you're
all over the book with your quotes and you added

(22:58):
so much to it.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
So thank you. I knew everything you could know about
Johnny Carson. I started listening to your podcast. I learned
like twenty seven thousand more things I didn't know now.
But you're a young guy, so you were not really
around in the original days of Carson. How did this
love of Johnny Carson start with you?

Speaker 12 (23:15):
You know, I was like five or six years old
and my dad would let me stay up on Friday
nights and watch Johnny and then they would do these
primetime anniversary shows every October, and I just the clip
shows were the best because I would watch Johnny with animals,
with kids, with senior citizens, the sketches, and he'd be
so funny and so witting. It was like this adult party,

(23:36):
and the politics at that time was over my head.
But you know, I was sixteen when he went out
the air on May twenty second, ninety two, and I
just missed him, like the nation missed him. And there
were just so many questions I had about the show.
Who was holding the curtain open for Johnny behind the scenes,
what was it like for a guest to be on
the show? So I just started this podcast and I

(23:59):
interviewed something like sixty or seventy Carson staff members. It
was with Irving Davis, the guy who held the curtain
open for Johnny for twenty years, to find out what
was going on behind the scenes, and it was just
this whole different world for me.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
It was amazing, so besides the funny and the guests
in the entertainment, there was something about Carson for a
little kid, I kind of the same thing. He would
kind of like teach you about how to be an adult,
how to have a personality, right, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
I think.

Speaker 12 (24:27):
So Johnny was really on the show all about manners.
He would say though the one time he was knock
good with his manners manners and he talked about it
on the shows and he struggled with this was his drinking.
He would say on the show when I drink, I
have one extra drink, I would turn into a table
of the hunt. But he was all about manners and
he was really really good with his guests. He never
made fun of the people. With some top show hosts

(24:48):
will try to get a laugh at the expense his rule.
Peter less Sali, Johnny's producer, told me uniquely, Johnny was
always make the guests look good. It was not to
get a laugh for himself. And just the way he
handled himself, the way he dressed, the class that he
had I think really separated himself. And when you were
a kid, you're impressionable. And there was just something really
about him that was special.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, it's different when you look back now because it's
so many years. But at the time he was a
very cool guy too. You learned how to be cool watching.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Him with Oh.

Speaker 12 (25:18):
I mean, it's really interesting in the sixties, especially because
back then, you know, they go to Hollywood for these trips,
because the show is based in New York, and it's
the smoking and the drinking and the suits, and it's
like people like Dean Martin and Buddy Hackett and Rickles.
It was definitely this hip party and then, as you've
mentioned many times, in New York, it's this very high

(25:38):
brows show with you know, people like Jimmy Breslin and
Gorda Badal. At the same time, he could have the
funniest people like Rodney Dangerfield on, and I mean, I
think he just had such a good variety of guests.
His one only criteria for a guest was excellence. If
you were good at what you did. It didn't didn't
have to be Johnny's taste in music or whatever you did.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
He wanted you on.

Speaker 12 (26:01):
The show was about excellence.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah. Now, the book, you should get the book. It's
called Love Johnny Carson. It's a massive book with great pictures.
Everything you would want to know about Johnny Carson is
called love Johnny Carson. But he was also I was
a little kid. You know. He was the guy that
introduced us to everybody. He's the one that introduced you
to Don Rickles and Buddy Hackett and all those guys.

Speaker 12 (26:22):
But tell us about that part of it, yeah, I
mean definitely. In terms of the comedians. The one thing
that I that I really stuck out to me when
I talked to famous comedians especially is there was the
introducing of comics. I would talk to people like Drew Carrier,
talk to people like Bob Saget, and they would highlight
their TV guide when a comic would be on, and

(26:43):
it would be their introduction. And you know, everyone was
making their debut, everyone from Flip Wilson who said Johnny
did more for comedians than anybody I know. I mean
Flip ended up with his own show on a NBC
and his winning Emmys, David Letterman for appearances and his
guest hosting the shown Before He Knows It launches his career,
and it was just it was uniquely Johnny. I mean,

(27:05):
even people like Jimmy Buffett who told me he was
so excited to talk to me. I said, mister Buffett,
why would you be excited to talk to me? And
he said, going on Carson was the biggest break of
my career. And no one has ever asked me about it,
no journalist, no one has ever asked.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
And it was one of.

Speaker 12 (27:19):
Those things where he introduced music, He introduced people like
Ross Perrot, the first billionaire. He was in New York
and they had him on, and that was he showed
up without any security. He showed up for his pre interview,
and that was his introduction to so many people that
became iconic.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah. Well, obviously Ed McMahon a big part of the show.
No longer with us. But Doc Severnson is alive, isn't he?

Speaker 12 (27:44):
Doc has he is in Tennessee. We've talked on the
phone a bunch of times, and he's been on the
Carson podcast, and yeah, Doc, you know, I don't know
if he's still you know, unfortunately, you know, Carson's no
longer with us. He would have been one hundred years
old yesterday. But I think I can still get the
sense talking to Doc that he just how much he
misses Johnny. I don't think that hurt ever went away.

(28:04):
I mean they were really close. Now, Ed McMahon would
say that that him and Johnny were close, and they
definitely had a bond. But you know, Johnny and Doc
would go on vacation with the wives. Where Ed and
Johnny were tight back in the New York days, especially
when they were hosting an ABC show called Who Do
You Trust on forty fourth Street which is now the
Helen Hayes Theater. They go to Sarti's in between shows.

(28:25):
But they kind of grew apart a little bit. Yeah,
when they moved to Burbank. But Doc, his memory, his
recall is unbelievable. I mean Doc was with Steve Allen.
I mean he and Peter Lesally are really build the
lone people that are still with us, Thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, if you listen to the Carson podcast, which you should,
how many you did like three four episodes with Doc
telling all his story.

Speaker 12 (28:46):
Yeah, it was with Doc a bunch of episodes, and
we are actually going to be releasing some new conversations
on the Carson Podcast. We did almost four hundred episodes
and then I did a lot of additional episodes or
in reviews for the book. People like Jay Leno, people
like Mario Andretti who taught Johnny Carson had to drag
race in Indianapolis Speed Highway in the sixties when Johnny

(29:07):
did a big stump, which was fun. So a lot
of new interviews, but yeah, I just I tried to
talk to as many people and then we're going to
be talking to a lot of new people as well.
That it's going to be on the Carson Podcast, so
stay tuned for that. But yeah, the stories are to
be told. I mean, the people that just tell me
it was the greatest time of their life. Yeah, there's
just it's endless.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
People pick on today's late night shows, but not to
pick on the host. But it's not their fault. The
bigness is gone. It's no longer a massive audience, no
longer these huge, big name stars. What do you think
the future is of late night? It may not last
much longer.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
I'm not I don't.

Speaker 12 (29:45):
I just the business model seems network TV. The ratings
just keep going down every year. I just don't think
it's probably sustainable. I mean, let's let's look at this.
Johnny at one point was what twenty five percent of
all of NBC's profits. I mean, he was doing an
hour in forty five minutes when he started in New York.
I mean he became NBC's cash cow.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
This was a guy.

Speaker 12 (30:05):
When he started that the critics were like, is he
gonna last? Or we're gonna is NBC going to bring
merv Griffin And there were rumors Jack Parr was going
to come back. And Carson didn't even have his own
bathroom in his office at NBC when he started in
his dressing room, he had to go to the men's
room with the key, and it was with all the employees.
They did not treat him like a star. So he's
about nineteen sixty ford he breaks Judy Garland's record at

(30:28):
the Sahara Hotel in Vegas. He starts to get more power,
and once he starts to get more power and creative
power from the network and just was became NBC's cash cow.
The tie change. By nineteen eighty he gets the ownership
of his show, which was completely unheard of, and NBC
is essentially working for Johnny. It's the polar opposite and
just that domination of a network. I don't think we'll

(30:51):
see that again.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Hey, we don't have much time with David you mentioned
it's the hundredth birthday of Johnny Carson. What is going
on to celebrate that.

Speaker 12 (31:00):
Yeah, yesterday they did a big thing at Johnny's alma
mater at Lincoln I'm in the University of Nebraska. They
had some former Carson guests. They had Marilyn May who
went on the show, a lout who was a singer.
They had a comedian named Pat Hazel who was on
Carol Leafer. Lance Burden maybe had an amazing Carson debut
as a magician. So they have that going on. And
I did a nice book signing last night. We have

(31:22):
We were packed signing books uptown in Manhattan. So yeah,
I've been just seeing so many people posting about Carson,
about the centennial, just about how much he's missed. And
the official Johnny Carson YouTube channel has over a million subscribers,
and it just tells you how much people miss this man.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, it's great stuff on YouTube. We're out of time,
but we'll do this again soon. But everybody love that Mark.
Thank you for your generosa. You've been such a pal
on great phone. Everybody get the book. Ordered the book.
It's called Love Johnny Carson. It's a long detail. It's
everything you'd want to know about Johnny Carson. It's fascinating.
It's called Love Johnny Carson. And listen to the Carson Podcast,

(31:59):
hundreds of episodes. You'll love this podcast. And Mark Malcoff,
thanks for the book, Thanks for.

Speaker 12 (32:05):
The podcast, Thanks Mark for everything, Thanks for your support.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
We'll talk to him. Thank you, all right, take care, Yeah,
get the book, you'll love it. Hey, coming up at
noon today, don't forget. It's Buck and Clay, excellent show
every day at twelve noon. Sean Hannity at three, the
most listened to radio show in America, Jesse Kelly at six,
Jimmy Fayala at nine o'clock at excellent show every night,
nine o'clock on seven to ten WR.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
He's more Mark, So mark'simone show on seven ten WR.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, Hey, it's gonna be a nice weekend. I mean,
it's not summer anymore. It's pretty obvious, but it's just
like a fall weekend, like upper fifties. And actually the
leaves are right about peak. This is like the peak
weekend around here for leaf watching if you like staring
at leaves. But a lot of people do, so we
got a lot to get to in the next hour,

(32:58):
and we'll get to it right after the news. We're
here every day ten to noon on seven to ten wrmorn.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Similar on seven ten.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, it's Friday. Now Tomorrow Saturday, and it's the first
day of early voting mayoral race. The election actually begins tomorrow.
Voting starts tomorrow and it goes for ten days. Get
out there and vote. Vote for Curtis. We think he'd
be the best mayor. But tomorrow is the first day. Well,
we'll get back to the merrial race. Now. The shutdown

(33:34):
has been on for two weeks. This is the big
payday normally for government employees. They're going to miss a
payday to day, and they tried to take votes every
day to what they want to do. Republicans sign what
do they call that? A clean cry? They've all this jargon,
but what it means is they'd extend the talks. He
signed this thing and it extends everything for seven weeks.

(33:55):
That gives you a chance to negotiate. Every time they
bring this up for a vote, Democrats voted down. They
don't want the extension. President Trump tries to explain why.

Speaker 13 (34:05):
I think the Democrats have gone totally crazy. And you
don't know what they're going to do because they don't
care about the people.

Speaker 10 (34:14):
They don't.

Speaker 13 (34:15):
I really think they have no leadership. They have a
lot of very low IQ people.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Well, you do have some low IQ people, you got
a lot of those aocs. But the real problem is
no leadership. You don't have a clear leader. In the
good old days, it was somebody like Chuck Schumer. Now
he's like an old, washed up has been who's so terrified.
He knows it's over, he knows he can't run for reelection.
AOC has already out raised him like ten to one

(34:40):
in money, and then you got Hakeem Jefferies is not
really a leader. He's trying to be. He's trying to
look serious and look like he has some gravitas, but
not pulling it off at all. So without the leadership,
they can't seem to get anything done. And that's another
problem the Republicans have. There's really nobody to negotiate with.
Schumer is not free to even be Schumer. He's just

(35:01):
so terrified of the left. And that's the problem. So
we'll see, we'll see what happens. You know, this all
started over the healthcare stuff. And it was all caused
by the Obamacare prices going crazy. They were just getting
out of control, and they've got to be something's got
to be done to get them back under control. The
premiums are just going through the roof. Everything has gone crazy.

(35:25):
You remember what they called Obamacare, Remember what the original
name was, the Affordable Care Act. It was supposed to
start that way, but the prices on it went up
like seven hundred percent, and it's unaffordable now. You remember
the other thing that was billed as is you like
your doctor, you can keep your doctor. You like your plan,
you can keep your plan. Well, nobody ever saw their

(35:46):
doctor again. All of a sudden, you're in some weird network.
Everybody lost their plan that was under it. It's just
a mess. It needs to be fixed by both sides.
But somebody's got to give it and sign that extension.
It give you a few more weeks to talk about it. Hey,
this big NBA scandal. You know, I like Stephen A. Smith,

(36:07):
but sometimes he can say the dumbest things. You know,
he looks like a smart guy and he's always well
dressed and artickled, and then every so of he just
says the dumbest stuff. So he's getting a lot of
flack from yesterday because he I don't know what he
was thinking this whole NBA scandal. He was trying to
blame it on Trump. He said, it's Trump that caused this.

(36:28):
It's retribution from Trump. Cash Brittel, FBI director, he said,
it's about the dumbest comment he's ever heard. This investigation
was started by Joe Biden's administration. The Trump administration just inherited.
It's been going on for about two years. Trump's only
been there whatever it is, eight months, nine months. But again,

(36:50):
this whole it's operation whatever the hell they call it,
it's a Biden era investigation. Most of it done during
the Biden era, so that nothing to do with whatsoever
Stephen A. Smith. But he hasn't apologized, He hasn't said
anything about it yet. Hey, another good thing in New
York if this works, if they actually do this. They've

(37:12):
announced a crackdown on e bikes, those electronic bikes you
got it's just chaos in the streets. When it was
all cars, the it was just cars and all car lanes,
you would get bikes riding along the very edge by
the curb, which was that was a safer system. Now
you've got bike lanes in the middle of the street,

(37:33):
you got e bikes, you got scooters, you got those
what do you call those things? Those petticabs all over
the place. It's an absolute mess. It's total chaos and
no rules. It's just total chaos. Bikes going through lights,
going the wrong way, going on the sidewalk. You got
to start cracking down on this. So step number one.
There's now a fifteen mile an hour speed limit on

(37:56):
e bikes and they claim they'll enforce this. Now, if
they do, two things will happen. Those bikes will start
to have to behave themselves instead of running lights and
being all over the road and speeding. If that's true,
and they start cracking down giving tickets, they'll have to
do that. And the other thing that'll happen is you'll
start generating a ton of revenue because they go city

(38:18):
always claiming they need more revenue. Crack down on the
e bikes, the petty cabs, speeding, tickets, running lights, running
all over the place. It's a ton of revenue. You
could probably get rid of that congestion pricing. But let's
see if they do it. Let's see if they really
crack down. Also, make all those bikes and everything get licenses.
It's another source of revenue. You have to pay for

(38:39):
a license every year. Now, speaking of congestion pricing, you'll
notice in the debate, Mom Donnie said he would keep
the congestion pricing. Is all for it. But you'll notice
Cuomo said that too. I guess he thought he had
to since he created it. He's the guy that gave
us congestion pricing. He's the one that pushed it through,
got it passed, and then Hokal used it. But he

(39:01):
said he would keep it. He's all for it. Mayoral race,
I don't know. Eric Adams yesterday endorsing Cuomo. He says
he'll go out and campaign with him. I don't know
how much that helps. Adams was in single digits, but
he's gonna fight for Cuomo.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Am I angry that I'm not the one taking down Zoran,
the socialists and the communists. You're dawn right, I am,
but you know what the city means more to me
than anything, and it is time for us as a
family to come together.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, it's on principle, But on the other hand, remember
there were massive, big, big donors with billions of dollars,
trying to spread it around, trying to do whatever they
could to help Cuomo get Curtis out whatever. Who knows,
Who knows why Adams is suddenly on board? Who knows?

Speaker 6 (39:48):
Corrupt birds of a feather flock to get That's cursed
about that?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Any thought he.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Who was going to vote Ferrick Adams? I have to
wonder with they've been these last four year trust he
is the most corrupt man in the history.

Speaker 10 (40:03):
Of New York.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
So Hey, Andrew Plumbo, you can have whatever votes he had.
I don't ever want Errik Adams boots.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Now, you gotta admit Adams when he took office put
in some of the sleaziest people. The first few years
of the Adams administration. In fact, how many of them
got indicted, how many of them got arrested, how many
of them are going to trial? It was pretty bad.
But the last year Adams straightened out and it became
pretty good. He brought in Randy Mastro to be the

(40:33):
deputy mayor running things. Mastro is great. You couldn't ask
for a better guy to run city Hall. He was
Giuliani's guy for eight years and then he brought in
Jessica Tish, excellent police commissioner and under the first few
years of Adams, there was tremendous corruption in the NYPD
at very high levels. But Jessica Tish came in and

(40:55):
cleaned it out. It was about ten or fifteen people
and she fired him all some of them pretty big people.
But she immediately give her credit, cleaned it up. So Adams.
The last six months things have been fine. Now Cuomo
has said he will keep Jessica Tish and Mom Donnie
shocked a lot of people in the debate by saying
he will keep Jessica Tish. If that's the case, that

(41:17):
would reassure a lot of people. But if you go
back and play the video again and analyze it, he
didn't exactly say he would definitely keep her. He said
he would consider keeping. There was some wiggle room in it.
There was some weasel room. And even if he said
I will ask her to stay on, well, what does

(41:39):
that mean for a week, for a month? Fire her
in six months? Obviously, if you had your own idea
for a commissioner, you would take office and she would
stay on until you're whoever your replacement is was ready.
So would she stay on? What you want to stay with?
Mom Donnie, Well, that's the problem. She did work under Deblasio,
which was pretty bad, and she did take over in

(42:01):
the Atoms when things were still a mess there. But
she would stay on. But you never know. If he
starts interfering, if he starts tampering and things, starts restricting
the police, she'd probably, knowing her, she would quit on
principle and not put up with it. Donald Trump Junior,
weighing in on Mom Donnie.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Perhaps it's exactly what we need as a country.

Speaker 14 (42:20):
You know, you hate to see New York failure, the
birthplace off Wall Street, the birthplace of American capitalism, go
down in flames. But perhaps that's the lesson we all
have to see. If the rest of the country watches
New York fail, and I believe it will under these
disastrous ideas, you know, maybe that's what we need to
stop the spread of this scourge, of this disease of

(42:43):
communism in America.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Well he's not alone. I mean, I don't know about that,
but there's some people that think that it's better to
get Mom Donnie. Let him be a total disaster. Everybody's
been trying to figure out what to do about the
Democratic this woke, crazy, insane, far left nonsense. Even a
lot of Democrats are trying to figure out how to
stop it. So maybe a total Mom Donni disaster. But

(43:07):
we've already tested it, We've already watched it. It happened in Chicago,
it happened in San Francisco, It's happened all over the place,
and it doesn't seem to be a lesson that resonates anywhere.
From what I hear, you know, Mam Donnie is funded.
There's a lot of money funding Mom Donnie, a lot
of George Soros type money flowing in millions, many, many millions.

(43:28):
And from what I hear, they got another twenty six,
Mom Donnie's ready to go. They'll run them in other cities.
You know, they got them like a central training headquarters
where they like an academy where they train them how
to be like Mom Donnie, you know, be good in
the debates, say all the right stuff, have that slick look.
There's about twenty six, Mom Donnie's ready to go. So

(43:50):
this idea let New York go up in flames. So
everybody sees it, learns their lesson it's great, but not
for us. We're going to have to live through this
if it is Mom Donnie. I just remember we got
through eight years at the Blasio. We made it through
the Blasio, so you never know. Mam Donnie was using that.
He's got a lot of commercials. Now you're seeing more

(44:11):
and more commercials now. Last few weeks it was mostly
Curtis running TV commercials. Now it's everybody. But there's one
Mom Donnie commercial where it uses a New York Knicks
uniform with his name on it. It implies that there's
somehow there's a New York Knicks connection to Mom Donnie.
The New York Knicks have sued him. They've they got
a cease and desist order. They want him to stop

(44:33):
using their logo, their uniform or anything in the commercials.
They want nothing, nothing to do with them. You know,
there's a candidate in Long Island who's running for a
DA or something and there's some commercial from the opposition
tying her to Mom Donnie. So she's suing the GOP.

(44:55):
She wants nothing to do with Mom Donnie. I think
she's a Democrat. She just wants no connection the Democrats
suing the GOP for trying to connect her in any
way to Mom Donnie. So again he's very, very unpopular
with a lot of Democrats too. Hey remember Bob Menendez.
Bob Menendez who went to jail. He's the senator with

(45:17):
the gold bars. We're recommending books today. There's a great
book that just came out Isabelle Vincent, big, big investigative
reporter in New York Post, and she's written a lot
of great books. She's written books about all sorts of stuff.
But her new book is called Gold Bar Bob. If
you want the real Bob Menendez story, and by the way,

(45:39):
if you're a movie producer, you might want to get
this book. It'd be a great movie. Gold Bar Bob
goes through the whole Menendez story. But you got to
read this because it takes you all through this New
Jersey mafia connection, the Caribbean, Latin America, the Middle East,
the personal campaign contributions, the way he aided others, interfered

(45:59):
in criminal prosecutions, defrauded medicare questionable visa. It's fascinating stuff.
But take a look at this book. It's called Gold
Bar Bob. Downfall of the Most Corrupt Us Senator. So
if you're in New Jersey, you might want to read
or anyway, gold bar Bob speaking in New Jersey. Looks

(46:20):
like it's tied. You don't have any definitive polling there,
but it's very, very close. Chitarelly just lost by a little.
Now here's the problem. Nothing personal in New Jersey, but
your voting system. There's a lot of funny business goes
on in New Jersey. Even democrats I'm talking about the

(46:41):
insiders will tell you officials, people that know all this stuff.
You know, you can't win by one two percent. It
won't cover the cheating in the New Jersey voting system.
You got to win by like three, four or five
percent to cover that. So so far Chittarelly hasn't been
able to get that kind of lead. Hey, we'll take
some calls in a minute, eight hundred three to two,

(47:03):
one zero seven ten oh. And by the way, in
a few minutes, we'll talk to the greatest polster in
the world and see what he knows about the New
York race and New Jersey race. We'll get to all
of that coming up, but we'll take some calls next
eight hundred three to two, one zero seven ten.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Get instant access to Mark by setting a free set
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Now back to the Mark Simone show on woor.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Mike in Florida. Mike,
how you doing?

Speaker 10 (47:37):
Good morning Mark.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
That's Mike got to pass line eight.

Speaker 9 (47:43):
I was going to ask you if you want to.

Speaker 12 (47:45):
Die Clerry Como because I was out on YouTube is
today listening to some of my favorites of his new
on and round being my number one is this wonder.

Speaker 9 (47:53):
If you know him?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Oh I knew Perry Como. Yeah, you lived in Sands
Point Long Island much of his life and then he
moved to Florida, Jupiter, Florida. He was a great guy,
one of the few though exactly the same as off
the air as on the air. Great singer, and people
forget late fifties, like nineteen fifty five to sixty one.
He was like the number one show on television. Part

(48:17):
of that time. He was on against Jackie Gleason and
the Honeymooners and he beat them every week. He was phenomenal.
And yeah, go on YouTube, take a look at some
old Perry Como shows. It was quite revolutionary for its time.
Let's go to George Port Jefferson. George, how you doing.

Speaker 10 (48:32):
Hi, I'm watching the two good new friends Culomo with Adams. Yeah,
they like best buds.

Speaker 9 (48:39):
They could double date two eligible bats.

Speaker 10 (48:42):
Maybe Curtis could introduce them to tool of Well.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
You gotta remember there's big billionaire donor money floating around
and helped Cuomo Adams. Well you do the math. Let's
go to uh Mara in Nevada.

Speaker 15 (48:55):
Mara, how you doing, macam I'm calling about it a
gambling story. First, I want to welcome Christina. She called
the other day. She said she's ninety two. She is
now a member of Marks Golden All these fantom fuck
Here's my gambling story. Back in the fifties, my father
was retired. We go to Florida work in a hotel

(49:16):
cateringto Armenians. He was the busboy at the illegal poker
games that year and he brings sandwiches and things they
tip them. That year he came home with the DeSoto,
not Brandon, but now two years later, one of the
guys that pulled to me favor here's the d to
my house, lent me three thousand dollars man, my father thought, good, yeah,

(49:37):
if I don't pay you with six months since suarts,
my father had a house in Kendall, Florida in six months.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Did he work with Moe Green or Afredo or right?

Speaker 15 (49:47):
There could have been, but there were Armenians there. You know,
there's the Armenian mafia too.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Mark, all right, well, thanks for calling. Let's go to
UH Michael and Queen's Michael. How you doing?

Speaker 9 (49:58):
Hello? How are you doing? You?

Speaker 16 (49:59):
Hear me more?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah? Go ahead.

Speaker 16 (50:01):
I want to just I just want to commend you
of being the only guy in New York City Monday
when you got it right when you said that the survey,
that poll that everybody was basing UH that Curtis back
out of was based by and run by Lobbyistomo. I
congratulate you and.

Speaker 9 (50:17):
The only guy.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Do we get do we bleep that out? Yeah? And
then stop picking on him. He's our friend. Let's go
to UH Sandy in West New York, New Jersey.

Speaker 9 (50:29):
Good morning, Yes, Mark.

Speaker 14 (50:32):
I wanted to tell you that I learned that.

Speaker 9 (50:36):
The UH. The first of all, I want to say,
the Orthodox you is very concerned about this selection, very
much so that.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Oh it's this Sandy. Sorry. Let's go to uh uh
Anthony and Edison Anthony. She always disguises himself.

Speaker 10 (50:57):
The Democrats over here in New Jersey.

Speaker 9 (51:00):
The lay Trump out saying that he Spikefuly canceled this
gateway project. I'm one of you. Got to give me
the stinty on that.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, he canceled the Gateway project. This is part of
fighting back in the shutdown. It's canceled until it's uncanceled.
End the shutdown, start negotiating, and the Gateway project is back.
And that's the way Trump does things. He starts the
negotiation by taking away something. It just gives him more

(51:29):
power than negotiation. You know, you go into the negotiation saying, well,
if it gets really bad, I'll threaten to soothe him
if it gets really bad. Now what Trump does. He
sues you before he even shows up, so the lawsuit
is on. Then he goes into negotiation, and he's got

(51:51):
some leverage he can offer to drop the suit. It's
just the way he negotiates, and he's been very successful
at it. Let's go to fran in Massapequa. Friend, how
you doing, my man mark? How are you keep up?

Speaker 17 (52:05):
To keep up the great work?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You're a beacon of truth. Oh right, there's gonna be
a button here. Good Yeah, no, no bucks.

Speaker 17 (52:17):
I want to know why when they showed the No
Kings March and most of the liberal protests, there are
a lot of white, fat liberal women, young pinkhead you know, girlies,
and some boys.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
People keep asking that how come it was so white,
so old that No Kings March. You gotta remember, these
are older. It's these are people have nothing to do
all day. They're not working, they've they've got no nothing
going on. They're retired, they're sitting at home all day
getting old riled up. They're watching MSNBC and CNN. You
know the average age of the MSNBC viewer. I think

(52:53):
it's seventy two now, No, seriously, and uh, it's an older, older,
older crowd that march. You know, if you're younger, you
got more going on. You're busy, you don't have time
to go to a No King's March. So it was
a very old crowd, and they put on those crazy
costumes and the whole thing. It just looked like Halloween

(53:15):
at the Senior Center. It was just absolutely ridiculous. Hey,
when we come back, we haven't had any real polls
in this race. There's these junk college polls and these
little nothing polling companies you never heard of. We'll talk
to the greatest pollster in the world next on seven
to ten. WR.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Let's get back to the Mark Simone Show on wo on.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Well, you know, you see these media polls, college polls,
they're all terrible, just these junk poles. You see polling
companies you never heard of. The biggest and best pollster
in the world is John McLaughlin. This is the one
presidents and prime ministers and the biggest campaigns us John
McLaughlin hiss. The website is McLaughlin online dot com and

(54:01):
he's with us now, John McLaughlin, how you doing.

Speaker 9 (54:04):
I'm doing well because you say very nice, flattering things.
But I'm fortunate that I've polled for Donald Trump. And
as you and I have discussed before, President Trump proved
that polls rite a long time ago in twenty sixteen
and has done so since. So I guess, yeah, we'll
see about now he's talking, you know, some of his

(54:25):
friends are talking to him about twenty twenty eight. We'll see. Well,
but I think I think, yeah, I don't think that's
I don't think that's going to happen. So that's what
I get to listen to the nice things people say
about our polls, because last year we said he was
going to sweep the battleground states and when the popular
vote and he proved that true.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah, just explained to people these public polls they're cheap, flimsy.
They're like five hundred people, a thousand people. It's not
always likely voters. I mean, what you do is much
more scientific, elaborate, much much bigger scale. So but we
haven't had a real poll from a real uh they
call the internals by any of the campaigns. Have we.

Speaker 9 (55:05):
Not really And when you're looking at I mean when
you look at national polls, like they've gone back to
their bias against the president and they're kind of right.
It could be I llegal immigrant, they have cell phones.
I mean, it's serious. Some of these polls, like there
was a poll out last week Economists. You go of online,
so there was an online poll and they had when

(55:25):
you go into their internals, they have more liberal it's
so wrong. They have more liberals and conservatives. That's the
opposite of the exit polls from West November. And they
have more Democrats and Republicans. Again, it's the opposite of
the exit polse. The big killer is this economists Hugo
Poland was done like the October twentieth they and they
had that. They had like twelve hundred people, but they're

(55:49):
supposedly you know, adults, but they had only thirty five
percent Trump voters. We got fifty percent. So when they
come out with a job approval for President Trump of
forty three percent, it means they're short as fifteen points
just they had because nine out of ten Trump voters

(56:10):
still approve the job he's doing at least, if not
one hundred percent, So you get so just add fifteen
to the forty three, that'd be fifty eight. So the
better polls have them like we had in September, we
had forty nine percent job for forty six disapproved. We
had the Republicans winning for Congress forty seven to forty one.
But it was a thousand likely voters. We know the

(56:32):
voters were contacting the voters, We're asking them how likely
they are to vote, because it's a big difference because
in the last national election you had our hundred sixty
million people vote apartment on a hundred fifty six million
people voted. It was one hundred and sixteen twenty twenty.
So that's out of a universe of you know, like
two hundred and fifty two hundred and sixty adults in

(56:55):
the United States. And then when you get to when
you get to but the midterm elections, the midterm the
elections go down even further. So in twenty eighteen, one
hundred and eighteen million people come out, and in twenty
twenty two it was one hundred and twelve million. So nationally,
when you're saying a thousand likely voters trying to represent

(57:18):
a universe, it's the universe of probably about one hundred
and ten hundred and twenty million voters that are probably
going to come out, and poles really don't predict turnout.
You have to look at other barometers when you get
close to the election.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Well, now let me ask you about the mayoral race.
I know you haven't pulled it. Nobody's really pulled. No
real top polling companies done this mayoral race. But what
is your sense right now? Is mom Donnie on track
to win? Has he been losing steam? Is Cuomo gaining.

Speaker 9 (57:43):
By the way we did Poland January for Betsy McCoy
first her Save Our City project, and back then we
had only thirty one percent of the Democrat parwer voters
preferring Cuomo. And when you have the second choice cause
that grant choice vote was only five So I told
Betsy he's not going to it's just and it seemed

(58:04):
to be right for the primary, but Mondombe hadn't emerged.
And when you look at the like the Fox News
pole that came out, and it was like October fourteenth
was the day that came out. The difficult part is
Mondomie's the most favorable of the candidates, so they had
Mondomie ahead, but he had a fifty eight to thirty
seven Farewell Unfairbell while Clomo in that poll was fifty

(58:27):
to forty eight and Curse was thirty six to fifty three. Farewell,
fun Farewell. And then there was the ar the AA
RP pole which was one thousand and forty likely voters
that Gotham did and it was mild after the last
male race was kind of a snoozer with Adams and

(58:48):
and so you only had a million people. So you know,
when you think about it in the city, you could
have one point eight million voted. When I was polling
for leez Elden and we were in a close race
with Hockel, there was one point eight million people came
out in the city. Or when I was pulling for
President Trump, you had two and a half million people
come out in those races. You know, Lee and President

(59:09):
Trump did as well as a Republican could do in
the city where we got thirty percent. And so this
aar P pole. When you're looking at it, it's probably tilted,
it is probably too old and may not be democratic enough. Yeah,
and it yeah in it, but they have they had.
That's the one that caused the stir where you had

(59:30):
the three whay you had a Mandamie at forty three
in Cuoma twenty nine and Curtis at nineteen. So Curtis
is running behind where Trump and Zelden were, but in
the two way. That's because it was an older sample,
maybe a little light on the Democrats. It was forty
five Mandamie forty one Cuomo, and that's when they all started.
Curtis got to get out. Now, Curtis needs to be

(59:52):
Curtis and Cuomo needed to be going after Mundami in
a heavy way since all summer. They should have been,
but they've been. You know, these all these people, like
you say, the billionaires who don't know what they're doing. Yeah,
they've all been playing musical chairs, saying, oh this, once
you get out, this, once you get out. The problem
is when you look at the internals of that poll,
Mondamie is a net positive forty eight to forty five

(01:00:15):
faarable to unfavorable, and Curtis is thirty five faarauell forty
seven unfairal So he's a net negative and Cuomo's a
net negative thirty seven faarabuel to forty eight unfavorable.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
But now you said, yeah, but you said, way back
months ago, you said, the only way to stop mom Donnie,
You're gonna have to have them bombard the airwaves with
negative ads, bring out his negatives, drive up his unfavorables.
Where were the donors. They didn't do it, none of
the packs.

Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
Where were they No, By the way, I don't use
the word negative issue adds.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Issue ads, but where were they They They sat, they
set it out.

Speaker 9 (01:00:51):
Well, it's cheaper that way, they don't. It didn't cost
him anything. I mean, Cuomo wastes a lot of their
money in the primary and now now you know, but
you have you know, like we ran President Trump's campaign,
it was a contrast between his job as president versus
Biden and Harris the job they had done, and people

(01:01:11):
respond to issues. Now you're seeing you know, kits and
sink ads coming out about Mundomie's positions on the issues
about legalizing prostitution, it'll increase human trafficking. He wants to
legalize drugs, it'll increase drug use on the subways. Him
defunding the you know, closing jails to fund. By the way,
the one who won the last two mayoral debates is

(01:01:33):
Bruce Blakeman in NASA's Yeah, because works for Bruce out there.
Bruce has done a great job. He's cut taxes, he's
refused to raise taxes in four years. He's hired hundreds
of new police officers. They're the savist county in America,
and so Mondamie in Nassau County has a twenty five
favorable He has to sixty nine percent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Right, there's no chance of Blakeman leasing we hope.

Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
Well, you can't take it for granted. It's an eight
point Democrats county. So there's more Democrats in Nasau than
there are Republicans.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Everybody get out, Yeah, everybody vote for Bruce Blakeman. Well,
just about it. We got like a minute left. What
do you think is going to happen in this selection
turnout wise? Well, we get a big turnout, can make
a difference. You think we'll get it?

Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
Well on Saturday, they start tomorrow, they start voting early,
so you'll have actual counts of people by party, by
registration by burrow. And if it's like the primary room
Mondamie's his nonprofits, that stores funds, et cetera. If they
start getting people online and voting, that won't be good
for Andrew Clomo, Curtis Leer. So you know, so if you,

(01:02:40):
if you, if you care about New York City like
we do, you need to make sure that it's not
just you know, the people organization.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Can't you got to get out and vote. Hey, Cloma
had a pretty good debate. Surprised everybody? Does that mean anything?
Is that going to help? Is it too late?

Speaker 9 (01:02:57):
It definitely helps, And it's not too late until election day.
You gotta you know, I mean, if that forty five
forty one is close, you know, granted he's He's still
got to do a lot of issue education and a
short amount of time on Mondamie's on the on the
record between them and and and you know, that's the
probably that's why Curtis still has has a significant amount

(01:03:20):
of the vote because there's a lot of people that
remember Clomo was the guy who gave us cashless vail.
Casha's Vale has like been really bad for you. So
so as far as the election goes, you know, Clomo's
got to he's got to make up a lot of
ground against Mondamie where the final points could be the
toughest points to uh uh to recapture. And you've got

(01:03:42):
you know, and you got other races, like you've got
more Maron given Alvin Bragg a race that's been you know,
oh shadowed by the male race.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
It would be great everybody votes for Maud Marrin for DA,
get rid of Alvin Bragg, Maud Maren for DA. John McLaughlin,
we're out of time, but we'll do it again very
soon because we always want to hear from you. John McLoughlin,
the biggest of the best polster in the world. McLaughlin
online dot Com is his website. John McLaughlin. Thanks for
being with us.

Speaker 9 (01:04:11):
Thank you, Thank you, Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Take care. Hey, don't forget. If you can't listen to
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Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
He's on the Game to Mark Simone show on seven tenor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Well, I don't know what to tell you. Tomorrow it
all starts. Early voting begins tomorrow. People start voting in
New York City tomorrow. Early voting for ten days. The
election is a week from Tuesday. It's about it's about turnout.
Just get out there and vote. Get everybody out there
to vote. You know, Republicans have actually won five of

(01:05:06):
the last eight mayoral races. They can do it. It's
about turnout. Get a big, big turnout. It can happen. Hey,
we're out of time. I'll be back Monday, ten to noon.
Don't forget if you're a podcast listener, if you listen
to the show on the podcast, you can listen anytime
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(01:05:28):
you get your podcasts. But otherwise, I'll see a Monday
at ten on seven to ten. Woar