FULL SHOW: U.S Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene is resigning from Congress; Zohran and Trump's meeting.

The meeting between Zohran Mamdani and President Trump went better than expected. Was President Trump genuinely interested in helping Zohran, or was he playing a strategic game to win him over? Mark discusses the possibilities. Mark interviews Boston radio host Howie Carr. Howie weighs in on the recent revelations from Jeffrey Epstein’s files, including the embarrassment faced by former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers over his alleged connections. Howie also discusses the financial perils cities and states can face under socialist mayors. President Trump has made major White House renovations that are drawing widespread attention. Mark provides an update on the ongoing and complicated efforts toward a possible Russia-Ukraine peace deal. Mark interviews Life Coach Dr. Keith Ablow. Dr. Ablow explains the psychological roots of Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) and offers advice on navigating tricky Thanksgiving conversations with friends or relatives who may display symptoms of TDS.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fly from Midtown Manhattan. Here comes the Mark Simone Show
on seven tenor.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, well, we got a lot to go over here.
We'll get to the Mom Donnie Trump meeting, what that
was all about. We'll get to the media myths that
they create all weekend, like Marjorie Taylor Green and illegal
orders to the military, and the Ukraine deal and all
of that. We'll get to the Thanksgiving Day parade. This

(00:30):
is the week Thursday. The weather doesn't look so good.
It looks like high winds are possible on Thursday. It's
a little too early to be sure, but if the
winds are that high, that means they lower the balloons
down shorter ropes and not quite the same. It never
looks as good like the floater, like just five feet
above the ground. It doesn't look right. But again it's

(00:53):
only Monday. Things can change. So the Mom Donnie meeting, well,
you gotta remember with Donald Trump, it's all a brilliant strategy.
It's very, very, very strategic. And it looked like, boy,
they just hit it off. He was so friendly. They

(01:14):
were like, it was like this bromance. It was. But
remember that's always how he does. The first meeting. That's
what he did with Putin. You remember that first meeting
in Alaska, boy with a friendly It was a love fest.
He always says that in the first meeting he's got
a whole strategy, which don't try to figure it out.
It's four dimensional chests. Only he understands it. If you
ask him to explain it to you, and he does,

(01:36):
he's leaving out half of it. I mean, it's very, very,
very strategic. So and I mean I've noticed one thing
he's learned how to do good cop, bad cop by
himself look in different meetings. So this was good cop.
It went very well. There were a couple I know

(01:56):
some of the strategy that was going on there. I
don't know the negotiating strategy of It's like like with
a fish, like you let the line out, let him
swim a little, then you reel it back in, then
you'll let it out again, then you're reeling back in.
So he's doing that with Mom Donnie. Now it was
Mom Donnie that asked for the meeting, not Trump. You know,
they talked about meeting at some point, but it seemed

(02:19):
to happen very quickly. But it was Mom Donnie that
wanted this meeting, and he went to a couple of
people who knew friends of Trump, and they broke at
the meeting. They arranged for this meeting. Mom Donnie used
whatever connections he could find to set up this meeting,

(02:40):
and his team flew down to Washington, and the crazy
media gave him flack about flying. Why didn't you take
the train? What's the difference whether he flew or took
the train. Trump, as he did a number of times,
jumped in to defend him from these nasty questions. He said, Hey,
the guy's busy. The guy's putting together a whole administration.
He's busy. They have time to take the train. So

(03:02):
he flew down. Now, part of the deal was Trump
agreed to the meeting, but Mam Donnie was told not
to push any of his leftist agenda during any press
conference it might take place. So he was very careful
not to do that. But he had agreed ahead of
time not to do that. Now, Trump does want to

(03:23):
continue with the deportation plans get the illegals out, but
he wanted to show Mom Donnie it's nothing personally, He's
not hostile to him personally, and that he will give
him a chance. He's not just gonna come running in
with National Guard and ice. He's gonna give Mom Donnie
as much of a chance as possible. The other purpose

(03:43):
of the meeting, Trump is trying to sow some discord
in the Democratic Party. He's trying to create a little
war in the Democratic Party. By getting very chummy with
Mom Donnie and having Mom Donnie appear to be very
chummy with him, is to stir up a little trouble
among Democrats and the Socialists, and seems to be working. Also,

(04:09):
remember Trump always loves to be unpredictable. If everybody's expecting
a fight, you won't get a fight. If they think
everything's gonna be wonderful, he'll give you a fight. So
it was very good. They talked about in the press
convens that they had a shared purpose and they both
wanted the same things, and you know they could argue
about how to get it. Jessica Tish staying on was

(04:33):
a key thing. Trump mentioned that said, he and his
family very close to Jessica Tish. They like her. Then
you know it's funny, Mom Donnie STIs talking about affordability
building housing, affordability building house, Ma'm Donnie as if this
is his big mission in life is to build this
housing is affordability. Now here's a guy, Ma'm donnie was
twelve years old, never had a job in his life.
He's sitting next to a guy who's built hundreds of

(04:55):
thousands of houses, literally low income houses. You know, the
Trump family business. Actually one of the biggest parts of
it is the low income housing Brooklyn and Queens started
by his grandfather and his father and Trump ran that
business for years. It's still part of the Trump organization,
but they operate like seventy five thousand middle class, low income,

(05:16):
middle income houses in Brooklyn and Queens. So when it
comes to affordable housing, Trump Trump has an incredible track record,
Mom Donnie, it's just a dream. It's just a pipe
dream of his. And if you were talking about building housing,
if you needed a house built, you needed a house built,
who would you go to, Mom Donnie and his team

(05:37):
of wacky socialists, or wo'd you go to Trump? Who
has the Trump Organization and one hundred thousand people ready
to go to build anything you want anytime. So it
was kind of funny Mom Donnie explaining housing to Trump.
But okay, but again, the shared goals are there, they
want We're going to work together.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
We're going to make sure that if they're horrible people there,
we want to get them out. Wants to get him out,
maybe more than I do, so we'll work together.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, if you got bad people, criminal illegals, you want
to get him out first, Mom Donnie. It went very well.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I appreciated the meeting with the President, and as he said,
it was a productive meeting focused on a place of
shared admiration and love, which is New York City.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, they both he's talking about New York, not each other.
They both share in love New York.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I think you're going to have, hopefully a really great mayor.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
The better he.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Does, the happier I am. I will say, there's no
difference in party, there's no difference in anything.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
And we're going to be helping him.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Now. Everybody's been living in terror, the idea of Mom
Donnie taking over January first as mayor of New York.
Everybody's talking about fleeing, leaving, moving out. So this was
kind of reassuring to people and for a lot of
these people. When Trump says, you know what, he might
be good, he might be very well. That calms people down.
So it did a lot a lot to calm people down.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
We had a meeting today that actually surprised me. He
wants to see no crime, he wants to see housing
being built, he wants to see Ren's come down, all
things that I agree with.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
I know it might be differences about ideology, but the
place of agreement is the work that needs to be
done to make New York City affordable.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So it was a very important meeting as far as
calming people down. Also, you know, if you take care
of crime, that's the one thing that came out of
there that he will try to keep New York safe.
As long as the crime is down and New York
is safe, that's ninety nine percent of it. That fixes everything,
that keeps people here, that keeps tourists coming, which is
a big source of revenue income, that keeps people New

(07:30):
Yorker's out shopping, going out doing stuff, spending money. The
economy booms long as crime is down. So we'll get
back to the mom Donnie meeting. Hey, let me just
clear up something. If you're watching these crazy Sunday shows,
if you watch the Sunday shows, you will have no
idea what the hell's going on in the world. They
just lie to you and conjure up all sorts of nonsense.

(07:50):
So a big theme of the Sunday Show and all
This MSNBC and all this is the huge breakup of
Marjorie Taylor Green and Donald Trump. Got an incredible breakup
there amazing rift that said, first of all, this is
all fiction. Donald Trump had absolutely no connection to Marjorie
Taylor Green. He had nothing to do with Marjorie Taylor

(08:12):
Green nothing. There was no relationship of any kind. There's
no breakup. She's in Congress. He's in the White House
once in a while, a couple times a year for
some reason or other, at some event ors something, they'd
be in the same room, and he was always very
cordial to her. Otherwise, they had zero relationship. Out of

(08:33):
all the people in Congress, the one he has no
relationship with was Marjorie Taylor Green. There's some people in
Congress he's pretty close to, you know, like Pennsylvania's new
Senator Dave McCormick. Trump calls them all the time. They
talk a lot. He invites him to the White House
all the time, not just all the state dinners, but
every couple of weeks, he has Dave McCormick come up
and they have dinner. Mike Johnson, same thing. If you

(08:55):
look at these state dinners and events, Trump invites people,
but you also look at the private dinners he's been holding.
There's a lot of people in Congress that he's invited
to these private dinners all the time. Never Marjorie Taylor Green.
He's never had any relationship of any kind with her.
So they try to make it look like this incredible
rift breakup. They don't even know each other. She announced

(09:17):
she's leaving. She's dropping out. She's decided to leave on principal.
The principle is she knows she can't win. He's not
going to support her. He's going to support the opponent,
so she's got no shot. So she's leaving.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
I have too much self respect and dignity. I love
my family way too much, and I do not want
my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and
hateful primary.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay, well, all right, that's good.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
It's all so absurd and completely unseerious. I refuse to
be a battered wife, hoping it all goes away and
gets better. O. Hi, everyone, I've always represented the common
American man and woman as a member of the House
of Representatives, which is why I've.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Now the problem is where does she go? You know,
if you're suddenly a Trump hater, you usually want to
go to MSNBC, but she yang. You can't have that
haced County fair sound at MSNBC. They're too highbrow for that.
I don't think she's even sophisticated enough to be on
the view. I don't think Fox has much use for her.

(10:22):
She's not a great policy analyst or anything, so I
don't know what the hell she's going to do. She
does have a successful business, she and her husband. I
think it's a family business. It's a construction business or
something like that. Successful business woman, so she could continue
to do that. Otherwise, again, no rift with Trump. He
had nothing to do with her, no relationship with her whatsoever.

(10:45):
The other fake story all weekend is that ridiculous video
that these people in Congress put out telling the military, Look,
if you receive an illegal order, we have your back door.
I don't worry if you get you know, they ran
this thing everywhere. They picked some people in Congress that

(11:05):
had minor military service. That was they always used that
for cover. You know, John Kerry was the most famous one,
and when he ran for president in two thousand and four,
he had very, very minor military service in Vietnam. He
was in Vietnam for a couple of months. He got
the hell out of there as soon as he could.
It was only there like two months. But he made

(11:27):
it sound like he was General Patton, like he was
a major military figure, and he ran against Bush on
his military experience. His military experience was twenty three years earlier.
For two months he was in Vietnam. Bush, on the
other end, for the past four years, had been the
commander in chief of the entire US military. So obviously
when it came to a military experience, Bush won easily
on that one. But these people are putting out these

(11:50):
videos about the illegal orders. While we familiar now that's
a whole made up controversy. Nobody has ever heard of
any illegal order anywhere involving this isdministration, the last administration,
the administration before the last illegal order. I guess it'd
be nineteen sixty eight, the Melai massacre. Remember that they

(12:10):
massacred some civilians in Vietnam. But that's what is that
Sixty years ago, sixty years ago, and you have to
go back that there's no such thing as illegal orders
going around. It's a whole fake controversy, and it was
carefully calculated to get the President to overrespond. The media
would jump all over it. However, even the Sunday shows,

(12:32):
which are totally corrupt, would ask these people, and they
have mine, could you name an example of an illegal order?
There's no such thing.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
But I am not aware of things that are illegal.
But certainly there are some legal gymnastics that are going
on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related to Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
No, there are.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
The reason we put that statement out is because the
sheer number of frankly young officers who are coming to
us and saying, I just am not sure. What do
I do? You know, I'm in Southcomb and I'm involved
in the National Guard. I'm just not sure what.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Do I do?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Now? This is complete nonsense. He's making them up. There's
no young military people calling represent Congresswoman Slot and what
do I do. There's nobody in the National Guard calling
up Slot. Hey, I started to bother you, Well, what
do I do? There's nobody asking that it's all made up? Well,
this is that old hag Martha Radics.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

Speaker 7 (13:27):
To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that
are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that
are going on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related
to Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So it's a good idea. I guess they got away
with it. I mean only because the media is so corrupt.
You make up a whole fake controversy and then if
anybody asked you for an example, well, uh, at this point,
I'm not aware. At this point of you make it
look like it's a possibility. It's not even a possibility.
It's all nonsense. But when you've got corrupt media, you

(13:59):
can get away with stuff like this. Hey, coming up,
we'll do it in the next hour. Trump derangement syndrome,
you know, we call it that Trump derangement syndrome. These
Trump haters, they go insane when you bring up Trump.
They start ranting and raving, they start fuming when you
bring up Trump. The hatred though, so it got the

(14:21):
nickname Trump derangement syndrome. It turns out it's a real thing.
Psychologists psychiatrists have declared it an actual illness. There's one
great psychiatrist I forget his name, but he wrote a
op ed about a week ago in the Wall Street
Journal saying it's a very serious disease, Trump arrangement syndrome,
and he's been treating it. So the guy's been getting

(14:43):
death threads, bomb threads. But it's a real thing.

Speaker 9 (14:46):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Another one of our great psychologists, doctor Keith Ablow, will
have him on in the next hour, because he's been
studying Trump derangement syndrome. It's been coming up I guess
with his patients and in his practice, and normally things
come up in your practice, like you know, a patient says,
I get a little depressed at Thanksgiving. Well I don't

(15:07):
really like thanks that's a little thing. But he started
to notice with this Trump arrangements and it's not a
little thing. It's like a major major. So we'll go.
We'll we'll talk to an expert on what it is,
how to cure it. Also, maybe he'll give us some
advice because you're probably going to a Thanksgiving dinner what
to do with the crazy, kooky left wing nut job
relatives who have Trumped arrangement syndrome. And we'll get to that.

(15:32):
We've got all these TV screens. One of them is MSNBC,
which is no longer. It's now called ms now. They
were thrown out of the NBC building. NBC got rid
of the company, spun it off. They don't want anything
to do with MSNBC. Then they told them take our
name off it. It's now called ms NOW, and then
they threw them out of the building. They've been evicted.

(15:53):
They're now in a little studio in Times Square. So
I'm watching it.

Speaker 10 (15:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Nowadays the set is like big TV screens behind you.
It's digital, so you can take a picture of the
old set and put it behind you, so it looks
like you're in the same place. But if you ever
watch it, notice you can tell they're in a much
much smaller room. You know, like when you watch Morning Joe,
that big round desk. They say it was huge, like
from one guy to the other side of the desk

(16:18):
was like twenty feet. Now it's like three feet. Everything
is smaller, tinier. They've been evicted. Also, when they used
to go to the correspondent in the field in the Paris,
we switched now to our NBC News correspondent in Paris
now they go to our MS now correspondent and it's
some third rate stringer has nothing to do with then network.

(16:39):
So it got very cheap, very fast. But see if
you notice. Hey, we'll take some calls. Next. Eight hundred
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Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now back to the Mark Simo show on w o R.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Jack in Mexico. Jack,
how you doing?

Speaker 11 (17:10):
Good morning, Good morning?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
What are you doing in Mexico? You're working at cartel?
What's going on there?

Speaker 9 (17:15):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Here, he's looking for some business Salamco.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
You here, you're nice, nice and long clear down here.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh okay, that's an app on the radio app. Yeah,
the iHeart app very good. And what do you want
to say? Jack, That's all I just wanted to say.
You know you we listened to you around the world.
Oh okay, well great, well, love having you listen there
in Mexico. Have fun down there. Thanks for calling. Let's
go to uh Michael on the East side. Michael, how
you doing.

Speaker 12 (17:46):
Hey, Marco, He's a pleasure and I live in the synagogue.
When commissioner spoke.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
This Parky Synagogue, Yes, Parky Synagogue, one of the most
prominent New York City street. They had this terrible, ugly
protest the other day that got totally I was outside.

Speaker 12 (18:07):
Were at the protest.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, well they called it a protest. It was actually
Muslim terrorism that was taking place. Thank you Muslim terrorists.
And now the commissioners apparently went back to the synagogue
and apologized for not handling it properly. You were there,
tell us about it.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
That was.

Speaker 12 (18:26):
That was at the end of her speech that she
gave a powerful talk. You could see it came from
the heart and you could hear in a voice. And
at the end she indicated that the police fell down
on the job. But two things. One she went downstairs

(18:50):
for the luncheon, which we call a kiddish and you
could speak to her one on one and that was
And also an announced Robert Quaft spoke to the synagogue
and he brought the house down. He is one villain wrap.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yes, that's synagogue and Parky Synagogue. She did apologize and
said they did not have the barricade set up far
enough away. They let him get too close. And she
was it true? She got a standing ovation at the
end of her speech.

Speaker 12 (19:25):
Yes, oh absolutely, but most of the talk did not
involve that apology.

Speaker 10 (19:32):
All right, that.

Speaker 12 (19:34):
Is at the very end.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Michael Good report, Thanks for calling, Thanks for filling us
in there. It's a great synagogue. That's rabb by Schneier,
and it was Muslim terrorists that went after the people
at that synagogue the other day, commissioner apologizing for not
properly containing them. Let's go to John in Connecticut. John,
how you doing fine? How are you good? Look at this,

(19:57):
We go from the Parky synagogue to the most entile
guy in Connecticut. Go ahead, Diversity, right, where are you
in Connecticut?

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
And so what your take is on this Ukrainian peace plant?
How for do you think it's going to get modified?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, it'll get totally modified. It's just round one. We'll
get to that coming up in the next hour. And
it's just this is that this is round one. Where
are you in Connecticut? U Canaan, you can't get more gentile.
There's no synagogue in nu Canaan.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Is there a Mormon.

Speaker 10 (20:34):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Now, Canan's a beautiful town. You got all those great
restaurants you got. Gates has been there a million years
and uh you got You ever go to Ridgefield? Oh sure,
now that's right right above New Canon. Richfield's one of
the nicest towns in Connecticut. Got that Tara Soul Taras
Soul is a great restaurant. You got, Luke, You got
all these great places there. If you forget going to Vermont,

(20:56):
it's like seven hours and when you get there, it's
all people from Brooklyn run it. It's all Bernie Sanders types.
Go to Richfield, Canaan, it's the same thing. You'll think
you're in the middle of New England and it's wonderful.
Let's go to Vincent and Brooklyn. Vincent. How you doing?

Speaker 11 (21:10):
Good morning, Mark Malcoam, Okay, good morning matter Mark. Saturday,
the topic of Rob astavino Saturday Afternoon show was what
was the most cringe worthy moment between the meeting of
Zoramandani and Donald Trump? And I would have to say,
and a lot of people said, and I quote, I
met with a man who is very a very rational person.

(21:34):
He's so rational that had he not been going to
meet Donald Trump Friday, he would have been at that
Parky synagogue, terrorizing all the congregants who were going into
the synagogue that was Cringeworth.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Vincent, let Trump play the game.

Speaker 11 (21:52):
It's a game I'm still waiting for. We're still waiting
for him to check mat Kathy Hochel with the congestion pricing.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
She's up to me, Well, that is such a little thing.

Speaker 11 (22:06):
How do we know? How do we know he didn't
promise somebody else something in another state, another man, and
he's doing the same thing to them.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's like when the Godfather meets Salazzo. They don't yell
at each other, Hello, how are you so nice to
meet a gentleman?

Speaker 11 (22:24):
Been a meeting with me, the meeting would have lasted
about a minute. I would have all the people would
have seen was my rear end and Mandami's rear end
going to my office, and a minute later would have
came out, not even with me. I would have sat
him down and I would have told him, listen, you
break one federal law. You go a step too far.

(22:48):
My foot is going to be so far up your
rear end it'll come out of your mouth bout now
get okay.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
But that's different. This is this is the president.

Speaker 11 (22:58):
Let's see the results. Let's see the four dimensional jest
play out. Because that's far all right.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Remember as the Nixon said to that guy, Presidents don't threaten,
they don't have Presidents don't trend, they don't have to do.

Speaker 11 (23:11):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Because you get overheated about this. Let trump.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
I'm not well, maybe I'm passionate about it because I
don't see any scores on the scoreboard. In New York.
We still have congestion pricing. I you tell that that somebody.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You gotta forget about the congestion pricing, right because Trump's
not gonna do anything about that. It's just too small.

Speaker 11 (23:33):
A don't mean it was just a campaign BS promise, No,
it was something.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
But it's too It's like number seven thousand on the
list of things to get.

Speaker 11 (23:41):
Well, you talk to anybody who's got to go through
that dantree every day. That's me spending forty five dollars
a week, one hundred.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
You're gonna have congestion one hundred sixty a year. All right,
most important, most importantly.

Speaker 11 (23:57):
Money, Most importantly, disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
On that, all right, we can. The most important thing
right now for Trump is crime in New York and
wants to keep the crime down, keep the police really.

Speaker 11 (24:05):
And that the sender god Daddy had the night there
there was no crime yourself.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
You call me there, understand, I understand. But let the
president do his thing.

Speaker 11 (24:15):
Yeah, let's see. Let's see it. Maybe when he's out
of office, things will change when another man.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Vincent, we gotta go. We gotta do that, all right,
thanks for calling. When we come back, Howie Carr will
be with us. Let's see what he thought of the
Mom Donnie meeting. We'll get to that next on seven
to ten w.

Speaker 13 (24:32):
R listener New York, Simone.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, Howie Carr one of the great talk show hosts
in America. You can hear him on iHeart. Just get
on the iHeart app, or you can go to Howie
Carrshow dot com. Get his show, get his podcast now
his new book. He's got a lot of bestsellers. But
his new book is called Mass Corruption. It just came
out on Amazon. You can order it now at Amazon
excellent book, Mass Corruption. How he Car's new book, Howie Carr,

(25:00):
How you.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Doing better than Jeffrey Epstein's good buddy Larry Summers at
Harvard University.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I dare say, now, what the hell was this married
man Larry Summers is trying to work on all these
women using Epstein as his dating coach. For what was
that all about?

Speaker 8 (25:18):
How about going to a pedo island on his honeymoon
on the Lowita Express while the Palm Beach police are
crawling all over his sex dungeon in Palm Beach. You
know they've they already know this is what kind of
guy this iss they're doing the investigation. Trump has already
kicked him out of mar A Lago and Summers is

(25:38):
going down to his island.

Speaker 10 (25:40):
And how about the fact that, too, Mark.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
Mark, that no one in the in the regime control
media seems to want to mention that this one of
the women he was going after was this Chinese American
woman twenty seven years his junior. And you know what
they were calling here, No, you probably don't if you'd read,
If you you know, they were calling her peril as

(26:04):
in Chinese peril.

Speaker 10 (26:06):
That's kind of a slur, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah? So, uh, for the for.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
The former Treasury secretary under Clinton and the and the
president of Harvard University to be calling a an Asian
woman peril.

Speaker 10 (26:19):
That's kind of bad, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Why?

Speaker 10 (26:20):
Why is this not in the papers?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Mark Well, I watched all those Sunday shows. All I
saw was Epstein, Trump, Epstein Trump. Then no mention Larry
Summers anywhere.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
Nobody Bill Clinton or Bill Gates or Noam Chomsky or
Katie Cork or George.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Stephanopolis, Noam, Noam Schomsky. I missed that one. He's in there.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
Yeah, Noam Chomsky said he was a very stimulating companion.
That's his exact words, his exact words. Yeah, and he's
a nom Trompsky is a ninety six. I mean, maybe
he's getting the same stuff as the Redstone was getting
at the end. I don't know, but yeah, he's Noam
Chomsky is on the list as well. Well, Ohen did

(27:04):
you know that they did you know that Larry Summers
and his wife invited Woody Allen and Sun Ye to
come to Cambridge and they want and his wife said
she wanted them to all share a.

Speaker 10 (27:20):
Bowl of plumps. A bowl of plumps.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
How come this isn't getting out, Mark, I don't understand
this so much. Good stuff in here, and they're not
reporting it.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I think they all have d's next to their name.
I'm still thinking about that stimulating companion. I mean I
talked to Epstein a few times. You ever talked to him? No,
I wouldn't call it stimulate. He was a good looking guy.
But then he'd say how were you? He had a
voice like that, you know, you not exactly stimulated. The
checkbook he had was stimulating because he would write your

(27:50):
check for whatever charity, political campaign, everything. I mean, that's
why everybody hung the around.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
But yeah, he gave one hundred and ten thousand to missus.
Larry Summers while he was big dating advice on how
to get get into the pants of us peril called
a Chinese woman.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
H Howe Carr. Let me ask you something you had
in Boston. You elected one of these crazy left wing
kook mayors. Uh, we just did the same thing. But
how bad did it get with a mayor like that
in Boston?

Speaker 8 (28:18):
I tell you it gets, It gets bad. You know,
she's she's driving all the businesses out, you know. I mean,
you know we've our commercial real estate sector has got
the same problems that the Manhattan does and it's it's
it's only getting worse.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
You know.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
The weird thing is that the stuff that would have
been a scandal under earlier mayors is not. It's not
a scandal. I just found some stuff. You know, there's
been all kinds of crooked cops, you know, being you know,
having their cases broom, not getting fired. I found found
some stuff today from from a case where they said
the only way they refer to women is uh, if

(28:58):
you're a If you're a woman in the Boston Police Department,
you're either a lesbian, you're married to a cop, or
you're bleeping every other cop. I mean, if the if
Mayor Walsh, the Irish Catholic, had still been the mayor,
this would be a major scandal, you know. But it's
it's it's right down there on the public record. And
but it's but you know, you have Mayor Mayor Wu

(29:19):
and her black police commissioner and they just skate. And
I assume it's going to be the same thing in
New York, isn't it. You know, New York Times is
going to go after Mam Donnie.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, who knows. Maybe this guy isn't the crazy socialist.
Maybe he was playing them but the Trump Mamdanni meeting.
What do you think you're whistling through the graveyard.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
You won't, I mean, your kid, yourself, You gotta you
gotta face the facts.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
I didn't think that Trump would, you know, uh, you know,
bounce an ash tray off his head or anything.

Speaker 10 (29:51):
But it was.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
It was more friendly than I thought I was gonna be.
Weren't you kind of surprised?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, he always does that the first round. He did
it with Putin, he did it with the Kim Jong
un first round. He always does that. But uh, I
mean in the end, would you agree Trump is playing
some kind of four dimensional chess game with this guy?

Speaker 10 (30:12):
Oh? Definitely, definitely.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
I mean, this guy needs Trump a lot more than
Trump needs him. If I were Trump, I'd be I'd
be looking at all of his his and his family's
immigration papers.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh they are they are.

Speaker 10 (30:27):
Oh that's good, that's good. I'm glad.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
First first one to move against is ilhan Omar. I
can't believe they haven't moved already on her.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, Hey, we don't have much time left. Tell us
about the book. It's it just went on Amazon today.
Mass Corruption. It's how he car's latest book. You should
get this book.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah, it's it's just uh, you know again, it's more
Democrats in Massachusetts. They tried to frame this woman. They
tried her once for murder, she was acquitted, they refuse
to accept the acquittal, that tried her again, and it's
just just outrageous. The district attorney and the state police
were trying to frame or they were I mean, they

(31:05):
were actually fabricating evidence, they were lying to the FBI.
They the FBI had to step in and actually save
this woman, Karen Reid, from being convicted. So it's about
it's about that case. And also there's there's rampant corruption
in the state police and some of the beginning stuff
in the Boston Police Department, which I'm turning up more

(31:26):
and more every day. It's just it's just about basically
as a police corruption. And again the FBI, which we've
talked about many times, the FBI was the FBI framed
multiple people in in the Boston area over the years,
just like just like I think they framed some people
in New York or at least they were involved in
some of the the Mafia gang wars in the seventies.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, they were in it's a hell of a book.
It's called Mass Corruption. It just came out on Amazon today,
So go order it by Howie Carr, Mass Corruption on Amazon.
And you want to hear his radio show, go go
to iheartor go to Howie Carshow dot com. Howie Carshow
dot com. Great stuff, Howie car Thanks for being with us.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
Thanks Mark, Happy Thanksgiving to you and all the listeners
to all right.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
You too, take care. Hey, we've got luck coming up.
Michael Goodman, by the way, he hasn't been feeling that well,
so he hasn't been with us for a couple of weeks.
We hope to get him back soon. Coming up in
the next hour one of the great psychiatrist psychologists, and
he's gonna tell us about Trump derangement syndrome, how serious
it is, what it actually is all about. We'll get

(32:35):
to that in the next hour. I know, I forget
Buck and Clay with an excellent show today at noon.
And if you've been listening to Jimmy Faylor, what a
great show every night at nine right here on seven
to ten.

Speaker 11 (32:45):
Wore the Mark Simon Show on sevent ten.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Wr Hey, So coming up in the next hour, we'll
get to Trump derangement syndrome. How serious is it? What
can be done about it? What you should do if
you're going to a Thanksgiving dinner you don't want to
fight with crazy relatives. How to handle it. We'll get
to that from an expert coming up in the next hour.

(33:11):
Also we'll get to the Ukraine deal and a whole
lot more. Just ahead. Mark Simone here every day, ten
to noon, or listen anytime, get the podcast back after
the news on seven to ten.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Floor Mark Mark Simone on seven tenor.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, it's Monday, Thanksgiving week, It's Thursday's Thanksgiving and it
looks like a windy day. It may affect the parade,
they may have to lower the balloons. But we'll see
a little rain tomorrow maybe Wednesday morning, but Thursday, no rain.
It just could be very very windy. So if you're
going to big Thanksgiving dinner and you don't want to

(33:53):
get no fight about Trump and all that, we're going
to have some expert advice for you a little later
this hour. A great psychologist that doctor Keith Ablow, has
done a lot of work on Trump derangement syndrome. He's
sort of getting to the bottom of it psychologically, How
bad is it? What do you do with it? Who
gives that? Coming up? It's going to be a fascinating

(34:14):
later this hour, I noticed President Trump did not go
to mar A Lago this past weekend, even though it
was a cold, windy weekend in Washington, d C. Normally
you think he'd want to get down to Florida. But
he just didn't want to go to mar Alago this weekend.
There was nothing major on the schedule, nothing that would

(34:35):
keep him in Washington. I think maybe he's just a
little sick of those old ladies at mar Alago that
just chase him around the dining room. You know, if
he goes anywhere in mar A Lago, the million old
ladies you see in the pictures chase him around. How
wi you I wan you wow? I just think he
couldn't take it for the weekend. One thing he did
on Saturday, he went to Andrews Air Force Base or

(34:58):
whatever they call it now, Joint Basing Andrews, which clumsy name,
but Andrews Air Force Base for years had the best
golf courses in the whole federal government system. Believe it
or not, Andrews Air Force Base. It's twenty miles from
the White House. It's in Maryland. Has always had this

(35:18):
nickname the President's Golf Course, because this facility has two
eighteen whole championship golf courses, the East and the South courses,
each designed as a par seventy two layout, and apparently
it's gotten run down. Like everything in the federal government,
it hasn't been kept up to speed. So the President

(35:41):
is going to have Jack Nicholas, the great golfer, the legend,
but Jack Nicholas runs a company that builds absolute, incredible,
state of the art golf courses. Is going to have
Nicholas and his company redo these golf courses so they'll
be as fine as any golf courses in America. Saturday,
during the he went out to Andrews, had Jack Nicholson

(36:02):
meet him there, and they walked the course and figured
it out what they're going to do. Remember, Trump has
also built dozens and dozens and dozens of world championship
golf courses all over the world. Knows exactly what he's doing.
So these two experts, you know, you're really lucky to
have this guy in the White House. You imagine Obama
trying to rebuild a golf course. Can you imagine Joe
Biden trying to build anything. So you got these two

(36:24):
experts at building golf courses looking this thing over. Trump's
an absolute expert at building ballrooms construction. He's been redoing
bit by bit by bit parts of the White House.
Oh not just the ballroom, but there's a thing called
the Palm Court. When you come in to see the
President foreign leaders, and you go through that door. The
first area you're in, it's a big lobby area. It's

(36:46):
called the Palm Court, was just so old and decrepit.
President has rebuilt that completely. It had like a linoleum floor.
He put in the finest marble, and he fixed the
whole thing up, paying for most of it himself or
with private donations. He's redone the residence, he's redone the

(37:07):
Oval Office. Obviously, some say overdone the Oval Office. But
and you know, when you're in the Oval Office, that
big Oval office, there's a doorway on the side. If
you go through that door, there's a hallway that goes
to the real office. What's something called the real President's office.
That little hallway goes down to a few rooms. One's
a private bathroom, one's a little den, one's a little

(37:31):
dining room, one's a little office, and that's where many
presidents would really work. Nixon didn't like the big oval office,
so he'd go to a little office work out of there.
President turned it into kind of a TV room, and
he turned one room. He gets a lot of flak
for this. You'll see a lot of articles in the
left wing fake news, all the left wing sites. He

(37:51):
turned it into a gift shop. Why it's so tacky.
It's a gift shop. And if you look at the pictures,
it's got shelves of gifts, Trump hats of all kinds,
Trump matchbooks, trump cufflinks, trump watches, trump pens. And they
make it sound like this is the cheesiest thing any
president has ever done. What is he thinking? A gift shop?

(38:13):
What an ego? What a None of these articles point
out that every president did exactly the same thing, but
not on such a good scale. If you went to
see President Bush, if you went to see President Clinton,
if you went to visit any president, they would always
at the end walk you over to that thing where
they would give you gifts. There was always presidential cuff links,

(38:37):
presidential pen, oval office, match books, I mean, I got
a big collection of this stuff. They'd give you this.
It was mostly the cuff links. That was the big thing,
that the cuff links at the presidential seal. For a
million years, that was the main gift. But it's now
twenty twenty five and nobody wears cuff links anymore. You
never see French cuffs anywhere anymore. So why would you

(38:59):
give cuss Nobody can use them anymore. So that's why
Trump has switched to hats and all that stuff. You know,
they still have the presidential couplings, although I've never seen
him give anybody. And so pens are good, even a pen,
it's kind of out. Most people don't use pens that
much anymore. So he didn't go to Marlago this week
and stayed in Washington. They were working on the Ukraine

(39:21):
deal throughout the weekend. Now, the problem with this Ukraine
twenty eight point piece plan, whatever it is, it favors
Russia completely. It's very bad for Ukraine. But this is
round one. This is how Trump does it. You put
out a plan that's way too far in this direction,
and then you make the other side negotiate back. So
he knows what he's doing. There's a deadline Thanksgiving Day.

(39:44):
Marco Rubio was asked about that.

Speaker 13 (39:46):
The deadline is, you want to get this done as
soon as possible. Obviously, you know, we'd love it to
be Thursday. We'd love to be Ultimately, the important point
today is that we have made substantial progress. We've really
moved forward. So I feel very optimistic that we're going
to get there in a very reasonable period of time,
very soon.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Okay, but the deal is so pro Russian. They think
Russia wrote it.

Speaker 13 (40:03):
No matter what we came up with today. Obviously we
now have to take what we come up with. If
we can reach that agreement with the Ukrainian side to
the Russian side, that's another part of this equation. They
have to agree to it.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, so whatever you see in the agreement, it's not
going to be the agreement. This is just round one.

Speaker 13 (40:18):
I think this is a very very meaningful I would say,
probably best meeting and day we've had so far in
this entire process, going back to when we first came
into office in January.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, so apparently they're talking, they're making progress, they're getting
there in this deal. And again it's round what like
the greatest movie you've ever seen that you love, what
a brilliant script. If you went and looked at the
first draft of the first round of the script, it
looked terrible. So it gets rewritten, and rewritten and rewritten.
That'll total happen until they get approval.

Speaker 13 (40:49):
It's ultimately have to be signed off by our presidents,
although I feel very comfortable about that happening given the
progress we've made. And then obviously there's the Russian side
of the equation. But again we think we have some
pretty substantial insights over the last nine months into some
of the things that are really important to them.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah. Now, remember they did the Gaza peace deal. That
took a lot of rounds, but they learned a lot
from that that they've applied here to this. The speaking
of Gaza, the president has had all the hostages he
can visit the White House and now a number of
these hostages telling horror stories about torture. You know, well,

(41:26):
the crazy left out there protesting Israel, the absolute horrible
villains in this where the Hamas idiots with it wasn't
just torture, many of them telling stories of sexual abuse,
men being abused by men sexually. It's just the most
ugly stuff imaginable. Now you're probably saying that, yeah, I

(41:48):
didn't know that. Well, it's because obviously the media looks
the other way on it. They make it look like
Israel's the bad guy here when Hamas has been the
most awful thing on earth that ever, everything they've done
and talking about war crimes, the worst stuff in the world,
and of course the media totally ignoring it. This story
about the sexual abuse of these prisoners. Go back, look

(42:10):
at all the Sunday shows. See if you see a
word about this there the hostage is telling these stories.
Not a word on these Sunday shows, but they'll do
a half hour on Marjorie Taylor Green. So I don't
know why I still I don't know why I still
watch these Sunday shows. They are so corrupt and so
fake and so awful. Hey, here in New York, you

(42:31):
got a governor's race coming up next year. You got
Elis Stephonic who look like a shoe in for the
nomination the candidate. But then Bruce Blakeman jumps in. Now
Blakeman is the finest county executive in America, And what
is a county executive? Well, it's like a governor. He's
the governor of Nassau County and he's done a brilliant job.

(42:52):
Elise Stephonic lover her. She's brilliant, she's great, But she's
a legislator. Does she have any management experience? Because you're
a great legislator, does that necessarily mean you'd be a
great governor.

Speaker 14 (43:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Kathy Hochel came out of the legislator legislator legislate later
who it was Cuomo that picked her as a legislator,
picked her to be the lieutenant governor. Now what you
usually do if you're a governor, you pick somebody who's
not so great so you don't get shown up. And
then he picked her, and of course she was just

(43:27):
awful and we got stuck with her as governor. You
can blame Cuomo for picking her, but if you say
that to him, he'll say, yeah, but you guys re
elected her. Well, he's got a point there, so you'll
have a legislator versus a former legislator. No, if Blakeman
jumps in, he's the only guy with any management experience.

(43:47):
A great governor himself, and you know, Stephanic is very smart.
Number one in her class at Harvard and all that.
But let's be honest, Blakeman is as smart as anybody,
so he's gonna be her equal, if not better, on
that score. Now, Stephanic is stronger upstate. She's from upstate.
She's an upstate type. Blakeman is a more sophisticated, downstate

(44:11):
New York City sort of a guy. And half the
votes for governor are here in New York City. But
can Blakeman play upstate? I don't know. But he's a
very smart guy. And he went up there and did
a tour of Binghamton and all these different areas, meeting
with people, you know, going to the diner, talking to
people like a Bill Clinton kind of a tour, and

(44:33):
that's what you got to do. So he's weighing it
very carefully. He's a very smart guy, so he'll check
it out real carefully. He's got to make a decision
in the next couple of weeks on whether to run.
He was at the Binghamton diner last week. Now, this
could mean a primary, and a lot of people said, well,

(44:54):
this is not good. We don't want to have a fight.
Why should we have a prime? Well, you want a primary,
even President Trump said, you know your off having a primary.
You don't want to have a coronation of a candidate
that never works. That's not a good idea. You don't
want to Kamala Harris sort of a coronation. You want
to primary. Somebody wins and earns the nomination. That's the

(45:14):
best way to do it. So we'll see what happens.
We'll take some calls in a minute. Eight hundred three
two one zero seven ten is the number. So I've
had two, three four Thanksgiving dinners already? Is it five?
I think we even got one down the hall here today.

(45:36):
You know, we have these buffets all over the place
down the hall that way, Power one O five front
of Charlemagne Studio is It's Golden Corral. Very good caterer,
and they do these beautiful Thanksgiving dinners and turkey and
ham and stuffing and sweet potatoes in every kind of
pumpkin pipe pee can I mean, the longest, most elaborate

(45:56):
Thanksgiving buffet. This is the fourth time they've been here
in the last ten days. So I've had four of
these Thanksgiving dinners. I gotta be honest. Thursday, I don't
think I can eat any more. Turkey. I don't want
to see anymore Cranver. I've had enough. Hey, by the way,
there's a buffet down the other end of the hall
with it's delicious. What a food these scones? Well, it's delicious,

(46:19):
but I didn't Normally the restaurant has a big sign
or something, but I didn't see. I mean, I said,
it's right in front of light f M. I said,
who did the buffet? It's phenomenon? He said, oh, Luftanza Airlines.
I'm meeting airline food here. But it was great, So
I guess it's just American airlines US airlines that have

(46:39):
bad food. This Leftan's a pretty good food there. Anyway,
we'll take some calls. We'll get to Trump de arrangement syndrome.
We got an expert to explain it to us. But
we'll take some calls. Next. Eight hundred three to two
one zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred three
to two one zero seven ten. It's the Mark Simone
show on seventen. Well, let's take some calls. Eight hundred

(47:03):
three two one zero seven ten is the number, and
let's go to Stuart, South Carolina. Stuart, how you doing.

Speaker 9 (47:11):
Hey, Mark?

Speaker 5 (47:11):
How you do.

Speaker 9 (47:12):
I just heard the Meli massacre mentioned a couple times
by Vincent on Friday. I just want to set the
record straight. It happened in nineteen sixty eight, Lieutenant Cally. Yeah, yeah,
massacreing in Meli. Later on, he was exonerated for that,
and nobody mentions that. And I just want to add
that in. I remember when it happened Verber Okay, but I.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Said it was illegal. But it is illegal. I'm massacre civilians,
isn't it.

Speaker 9 (47:38):
Yeah, yeah, you have to go through the case and
everything else. But like I said, he was eventually exonerated.
And the fact that these Democrats are telling the military
men and women they have no dog in this fat fight.
If soldiers end up saying I'm not going to obey
this law, you know, or this order because I think
that it's illegal, they're going to get tried under the USC,

(48:00):
the us UCMJ, and probably put in prison in Levenworth.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (48:04):
I mean, what they're telling these people is unconscionable.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Well, but it was pretty smart of them. It was
a you know, this is the world of trolling people. Now,
they were trolling Trump. He overreacted a little. I mean,
he's still right, he's absolutely right. I mean they're talking
about sedition.

Speaker 9 (48:20):
But yeah, and that's absolutely right, sedition. I live right
near Fort Gordon in Augusta, and there are a lot
of military people here on Vice President of Vietnam Veterans
of America, North Augusta.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
And people are outraged.

Speaker 9 (48:32):
Yeah, absolutely outraged.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
All right, good call, Stuart, thanks for calling. Let's go
to Steve in Manhattan. Steve, how you doing.

Speaker 11 (48:41):
Don't blame me. I voted for Pap Buchanan.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Now there's nobody under ninety who knows who you're talking about.
But okay, he was a great guy, Pat Buchanan. He
was a regular guest on this show. I love the guy,
but I think he's been dead twenty years and he
ran for president like thirty forty years ago or something.
Those of you that don't know who that is. Let's
go to Mike and Florida. Mike, how you doing, Good morning, Mark, Yes, Mike.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
I have a quick story that kind of illustrates how
the president is in person. I a number of years
ago worked on an infomercial and he was the guest,
and I had met him previously a couple of times,
but on another show, and so the producer comes down
and just the usual spiel that produces. Do don't look
at him, don't talk to him. Okay, So of course

(49:27):
I'm the stage manager. So I go to the back
of the dressing room and in the outer room there's
a big burly security guard and he stops me. And
the President Trump is in the other room tying his tie.
So the god goes, what you need, I go on
the stage. My mic on the stage manager. I just
wanted to show mister Trump his walkout. And Trump stops

(49:48):
what he's doing, looks, and he goes. He walks out
and he goes to the security guard. You listen to
this guy pointing to me. He knows what he's talking about.
I said, Hi, Hi, miss, nice to meet you again.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
I just want to show you.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yes, he puts his guess, Mike puts his arm on
my shoulder. I walk him down the hallway. He loves me,
and this illustrates who he is. He wasn't insincere, he
wasn't blowing smoke. He's genuinely like that.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Oh yeah, no, no, he's When he goes into a
building or anywhere, he always like to say hello to
the doorman first. If he comes into a radio station.
He's the only guest I've ever seen go into the
control room say hello to everybody in there. That's the
way he is.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
That's a very very gregarious guy. And he has love
in his heart and he's not you know, if he
has to fight, he will. You look, he's fought the
toughest guys in New York, you know, lobsters and bad
landlords and unions and politicians. So you know, sometimes you
have to you know, sometimes you get more, you know,
flies for honey, but sometimes you kick him in the butto.

Speaker 10 (50:52):
We can do both.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, good call Mike, Thanks for calling. Yet, you know,
if you talk, there's people who worked in the White
House for like thirty years, forty years. They're just stab
if they're there through every president, and a bunch of
them have told me the only president who ever comes
into the kitchen to talk to them, you know, the
people who work in the kitchen is Trump. He'll walk
in every you know, every few days, says, how you doing,

(51:13):
what's going on? And here you guys need anything. He'll
walk around the grounds, talk to the gardeners everything, how
you doing, you need anything? Got everything you need? You
have everything? And they've been there for decades. They've never
seen another president do that.

Speaker 10 (51:26):
Does that?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
All you know? I always noticed when he comes to
the big donors, throwing a big fundraiser in the apartment
on Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue. Whenever the candidate walks in,
the big, big candidate. I don't want to measure a
names mint round me, But whenever the big candidate walks in,
it's always the same thing. The wife will come over first,

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and he'll like, swap the wife out of the way,
Get out of the way. Where's the husband? Where's the
guy right in the check? I want to talk to him,
and all he wants to do is talk to the
big donor. But I always watch when Trump walks in.
He always ignores these people. He always wants to talk
to the waiters first, the bar tender first, the woman
checking the coach. He'll always talk to her first. I'll
make the donor's weight. He's always been that way. Let's
go to David in Brooklyn, David, how you doing?

Speaker 10 (52:11):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (52:11):
We lost him. Let's go to uh Ray in the
story Ray, how you.

Speaker 14 (52:15):
Doing all right? Mark's mom?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Let me check, yes it is Listen.

Speaker 14 (52:22):
I worked on the precinct in the on seventy sixty
seventh Street.

Speaker 11 (52:29):
There you are.

Speaker 14 (52:32):
I rebuilt that.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Whole precinct way you were in a copy.

Speaker 14 (52:36):
No, no, I did construction there.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Oh okay, because with your voice, it wouldn't work if
you went stop police. It doesn't sound right.

Speaker 14 (52:45):
I know, I got it. I got a crazy voice.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
No, you got a nice voice. Good voice, very peppy,
very lively sound.

Speaker 14 (52:52):
I'm eighty I'm eighty six years old.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Perfect right now, target demo.

Speaker 14 (52:57):
I worked on the precinct there and we rebuilt it.
And that whole area across the street was the Russian
what do you call residency, and they got cameras all
over that precinct, all over that area.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
All right, I don't know what the hell you're talking about,
but you sound happy about it. What do you mean
you built that?

Speaker 14 (53:24):
We did the the precinct there, the old precinct, We
rebuilt it where eighty sixty sixty seventh Street. Oh, the
nineteenth preesc yeah, the nineteenth the firehouse.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
You got to be honest that that did in that
nineteenth precinct kind of run down. Yeah, you built that.
It's not exactly an architectural digest.

Speaker 14 (53:47):
That place I know it's an eighteen eighty six facades.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
You're talking like it's the taiz Ma Hall. It's not
the best look in it was the.

Speaker 14 (53:59):
Inside of it is.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I've seen the inside. It's okay.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
I mean it's functional, but oh yeah, yeah, I just
want to let you know about that.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
But you want to work as a decorator. I wouldn't
go around showing that to anybody.

Speaker 14 (54:13):
There's also a spy room in that precinct which they
have cameras looking at the Russian consulate right across the street.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, well assume they do. Yeah, all right, Ray, good call.
You sound like a great guy. Thanks for calling. Hey
when we come back. One of the great psychiatrists and
he's actually a great life coach. Now, but doctor Keith Ablow,
best selling author, you've seen him all over television. He
has some real insight into Trump derangement syndrome. What is
it really all about? Well, this is fascinating. We'll get

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to this next. On seven to ten, wo R gets.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
In access to Mark by setting a freeset in the
iHeartRadio app for his live show and his podcast.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Now back to the Mark Simone show on WOR Well,
you know this Trump derangement syndrome. It's a very serious thing,
and there was a psychiatrist wrote an op ed piece
of Wall Street Journal saying it's a serious disease. So
Miranda Divine had doctor Keith Ablow on her big, Great

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podcast and he really had some insight into Trump derangement syndrome.
Doctor Keith Ablow, who's also a great life coach, best
selling author. Follow him on Twitter to get his all
of his books, and of course you see him all
over television, doctor Keith Ablow.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
How you doing, I'm doing, Walmart, how are you?

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I'm good. I'm good. So yeah, Miranda Divine was on
the show. She was telling us about I mean, you experts.
You know, we think Trump derangement syndrome's kind of a
funny name, but you found it. It's a real mental disorder,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Well listen, you know this is a common, common thing
that's afflicting people. We're not gonna find it in a
diagnosmustic manual, but I'll tell you people who object to
autonomy and are not grounded in the self. You know,
the self's a miracle. It's connected to God. It's where

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we operate most powerfully. From it's the center of human beings.
If that is, for whatever reason, really frightening to you,
then Donald Trump's going to be really frightening to you,
and you're subject to Trump's arrangement syndrome.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Now, the politics, you know, they hated Bush, they hated Cheney,
they hated Nixon. But with Trump it sets them off.
He sets them off in a way I've never seen anybody.
What is it in his personality that makes them crazy?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. He is number one.
There's no confusion whatsoever about his gender. He's hyper male,
and this offends some people. They don't even know that
offense necessarily, but they're unconsciously deeply offended. That he has

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masculinity in every mannerism, right, So that's one one aspect
of it, for sure. Another is, I'm sorry, you're.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Right, it's like nineteen fifties, really tough masculinity. We haven't
seen that in a president in years. So that's a
good point. What's the other one.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
It's like John Wayne is holding you know, office, and
people don't know what to do about it. The other
thing is that he is not in any way ambivalent
about things. He expresses things very definitively if you waffle,
if you want to play both sides in the middle,

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then this is going to make you very nervous, and
you're going to take it out on Donald Trump because
he adds up to numbers, and then in a very
direct way, he'll say, look, here's that's how it looks arithmetically.
You don't have the leverage you think you do. I
just did all of the variable analysis. Here's your choices.

Speaker 11 (58:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
That would appeal to people who love logic and who
really like honesty, but it doesn't appeal to people who
want nothing to have reality. And right now Donald Trump
is on the side of reality, truth, honesty, and people
who would like to be an avatar of themselves, to

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be anything to anyone, and to assert that countries don't
need borders. I mean, listen, almost half the electric or
whatever thinks maybe countries don't have to have borders. That's
like delusional, and Donald Trump in that way will tell you, well,
that's craziness. They will therefore hate him, fear him, and

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be subject to Trump derangement syndrome.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
If Donald Trump came to you and said, show me
what to do to be more likable, would you show
him or would you say, hey, just be yourself.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I would say you've got to be yourself. In a
lot of ways. The antidote to Trump derangement syndrome is
more exposure to truth and to trumpisms. However, I would say, listen,
you might throw in even additional humor to tell people
it's okay, as he's done recently. He said, listen, you

(59:29):
can you can call me a fascist if you want
to have been called worse. So if he's able to
tell people, listen, here's what's happening.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
I know.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I know that, the fact that I'm quite definitive, the
fact that you know, people call me, you know, hyper meal.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
I know this offense some people.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
It's okay, We're going to get there together. I suppose
you could do that in Olive Branch, but really I
wouldn't change Donald Trump, and I would advise him keep going. Man,
this is what we need all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Right now, doctor Keith Ablo. People are going to Thanksgiving dinner.
They're going to probably get in a fight with relatives
that have Trump to arrangement syndrome. What can they do
to deal with it? Or should they just humor them?
What should they do?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Just humor them? One of the things about Trump to
arrangement syndrome is it's very rigid. You know, if people
don't come to my office, they may not get over it, right.
So I would say, you sidestep it, you smile, You
ask them more questions, let them talk, and don't interact.

(01:00:33):
Don't insert your own opinions, because you know what, you're
not going to convert anybody at Thanksgiving and what you
want is peace, and so you can't. In some ways
you just can't engage. So you dodge, you weave, You
talk about other subjects. If people insist on talking about that,
ask them more questions about what they think, rather than,

(01:00:55):
you know, boldly saying you're so completely up you're delusional.
That's not going to work with the stuffing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, did you see this? Psychiatrist wrote the op ed
for the Wall Street Journal last week about Trump arrangement syndrome.
It's an actual mental disorder, and he seemed to take
it very very seriously on the chart of mental disoryers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Yeah, I saw that, and listen, I think what it
is is, it's a subset. It's basically that you know,
those who want to be cared for as though they
have a parent in the state, Those who don't really
want to assert their individual and individuality and autonomy and

(01:01:44):
who would like there to be no reality.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
About the world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
They are that group that are subject to Trump derangement
syndrome and right, and so the bottom line is is
it a clinical condition. We wouldn't medicate it. We wouldn't
you know, and I wouldn't coach anyone out of it
without a lot of time in my office. But the
bottom line is that people should reflect who are subject

(01:02:11):
to that. Is it possible? But because I'm not feeling
empowered myself that looking at someone that powerful and certain
is deeply offensive to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Huh. Now, what else Miranda said has to do with
daddy issues? Is is that true?

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Well, that masculinity quotient is so high in Trump that
if you have ambivalence about that role and your family
that you know, if you have deep questions about who
your father was or what you thought of it, or
your own masculinity, you may well be more vulnerable Trump

(01:02:56):
arrangement syndrome. Because here's a big man eating guy who
is nonetheless a healthy man, a strapping fellow, even you know,
past his sixties, And that too causes people consternation. They're like,

(01:03:17):
how can he not be eating carrots and other vegetables
to show us how healthy that is and still be pulling,
you know, near all nighters. So it deeply, deeply concerns
people who want to feel somewhat vulnerable and therefore as
though the state should take care of them, and who

(01:03:39):
might vote for, you know, government officials who say, don't worry,
we'll control everything. You don't need to have any power.
Donald Trump says, no, No, you should have autonomy. Start being yourself,
be grounded as an individual, make your own choices. These
things cause people a lot of anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
It's also the key to a good LFE. Well, hey,
great stuff. We're out of time. Hey, next time I
gotta ask you. You treated Hunter Biden for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Uh I think you might need was reported in the news.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yes, I think you might need some more sessions. Yeah,
you're made.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Not a complete the same address.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Well, great stuff, doctor Keith Ablow. You can get his
books on Amazon, and if people want to contact you,
what's the best way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Best way is info at Keithablow dot com or just
visit Keithablow dot com and there's a link you can.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Get right to me. Check out his website Keithablow dot com,
Doctor Keithablow, great stuff, Thanks for being with us, Thanks Mark,
all right, take care. Interesting stuff. So now remember Thanksgiving dinner.
Don't get into a big fight with everybody. Just nod
and yes them to death and change the subject. Hey,
don't forget Buck and Clay at noon today with an

(01:04:53):
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Speaker 11 (01:05:07):
A Mark Simon show, delivering the news before it is
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Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
So we're just about out of time. Well, we are
happy to clear up things for you. Marjorie Taylor Green.
Is not that they had nothing to do with Donald Trump.
They keeps a rift, a terrible breakup of no relationship
at all. The other headlining split in the mag of
Marjorie Taylor Green was some fringe character who on the

(01:05:38):
only people have paid any attention to her, with a
fake news always covering her because she'd say something silly.
So she's left politics, She says, she's gonna run in
twenty twenty eight thinking it over. Ah, you just say
that makes you look important that way. Everybody still talks
to you because they think you might be running anyway.
We're out of time. Don't go away. Buck and Clay
are next. I'll be back tomorrow ten noon, and I

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hope you can join me. Then I'll talk to you
then tomorrow on seven ten wo