December 17, 2025 • 33 mins
There are new developments in the case involving actor Rob Reiner and the circumstances surrounding his wife’s death, particularly regarding the actions of their son, Nick Reiner. President Trump is scheduled to address the nation tonight at 9 pm to provide updates on the current state of the USA. Meanwhile, left-wing news networks remain fixated on White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, a situation that is reportedly agitating the Democratic Party. Mark takes your calls! Mark interviews streaming host Bill O’Reilly. During their conversation, they discuss President Trump’s recent comments about Rob Reiner following his death, which Bill suggests may have been a misstep. Trump’s legacy could fail if he doesn’t win the 2026 midterm elections. Bill believes that while the president does not need to fundamentally change, he should consider modifying his approach.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You just heard the news.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now you'll find out what it all means.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Hey smart simone on seven tenor Hey, well.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I forget to We'll get to the president's speech. It's
gonna happen tonight. What's that all about. We'll get to
the fake Susie Wilds controversy. We'll get to Nick Reiner.
More details coming out, We'll get to Milania. We'll get
a Cardinal Dolan who we love, maybe leaving. We'll get
to that coming up in more. Oh, Jack Smith and
(00:33):
Merrick Garland. I've been caught again in just total law
fair corruption. We'll get to that just ahead. So hey,
let's just talk about the Nick Reiner for a second now.
If you were listening Monday and Tuesday and we went
over the story, what was known about the case and
the big problem with LA I don't know why, but
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they're just not very forthcoming. The disc attorney, the police chief,
they speak, they hold prescot, but they don't give you
the details. So we've been depending on police sources to
leak stuff out. And the original story we got leaked
out being reported was that the daughter who lives on
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the property in a guest house, heard loud arguing and
at some point went over to check and found the bodies. Well,
now there's a whole different story being leaked out of
the police department. So again these are from good police sources,
but you know, I can't guarantee everything because it's not
official on the record. But it's also the fog of war,
(01:36):
you know, you get all kinds of reports. But the
latest version coming out of the police department is the
daughter lives in the guest house and a masseuse comes
to the winers' house on Sundays to give them massages.
The masseuse could not get in. They didn't answer. They
didn't answer the gate. The house open the gate, they
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didn't answer the phone, well, didn't answer anything highly unusual
for them. So the masseuse got concerned, called the daughter,
who lives with a roommate, and the two of them
went over to check. And the story is when the
daughter walked in, she found Rob Reiner's body there on
the floor somewhere. Obviously, went into shock and had the
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roommate call nine to one pint one. The roommate calls
the police, while the daughter calls Billy Crystal, who it
turns out is Rhiner's closest friend, Crystal and his wife
race over to the scene, and the police arrive at
about the same time, and the daughter and roommate are
waiting outside while the police. Everybody's in there now. The
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daughter didn't know that the mother had also been stabbed.
The police had to come out and tell her it's
not just your father. Apparently he was outside the bedroom,
and when they went in the bedroom, they found the
mother dead, throat slit, and they had to tell the
daughter it's just a horrible, horrible, horrible story. I was
saying that it looked like rigor mortis had had started
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setting in. That means they'd been dead for a few hours.
So the new version that's coming out of the police
department is that the night before they're at this Conan
O'Brien Christmas party, Nick Reiner gets into a huge fight
with his father. He'd been getting into fights with a
lot of people around the room, a lot of people
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disturbed by his behavior, his appearance. He came in with
a sweatsuit and a hoodie over his head and at
one point got in a fights with people. We've got
into arguments with people, looked really really weird with people,
and some of them even left the party. They didn't
want to deal with him. Bill Hayter was one of them.
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Hayter was talking to somebody and Nick Reiner came over
with that psycho look. I guess hater didn't know who
he was, and said, excuse us, this is a private conversation.
Chased him away. Well, then Nick Reiner came over and
just glared at him with a scary, scary looking stare,
so scary that the hater left the party. Nick Reiner
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then got a huge screaming fight with his father in
the party. It got so out of control and alarmed
the other guests. It got so out of control that
Rob Ryder and his wife decided they should leave the party.
The crazy son, Nick Reiner left, So it now looks
like it's possible that it was later that night, in
the middle of the night, that he went and maybe
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maybe that's when it happened stabbed his parents, because he
then at four point thirty in the morning showed up
at this hotel to check into the hotel. So if
he had later that night gone to the house, stabbed them,
killed them, obviously he wouldn't continue to stay in the
guest house right on the property, so that could be
why at four thirty in the morning he went and
checked into a hotel. Police found him the next day.
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He was dressed all in dark clothes, wearing a baseball cap.
They had pictures of him, a description of him. He
was at a metro station, this is fifteen miles away
from the Reiner house. Two police cars saw him. They
pulled up, surrounded him. He didn't resist. He put his
arms up in surrender, and they've taken him into custody.
(05:14):
He's been in a protective custody. He's been on suicide watch.
Was supposed to appear in court yesterday. He's got a
top top LA lawyer, one of the biggest best LA lawyers,
the guy who had defended Harvey Weinstein's defended other high
profile murderers. Now here's the District Attorney of Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Their loss is beyond tragic, and we have we will
commit ourselves to bringing their murderer to justice.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, no, they could charge him. They're going to charge
him with two counts of murder, with aggravated this, aggravated that.
So he is facing the death penalty.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Rob Reiner was a brilliant actor and director, an iconic
force in our entertainment industry for deck Aids, his wife,
Michelle Singer Reiner was inequally iconic photography.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
One thing I don't like it's the secretorny. He's great
with all these long speeches, but why has he given us.
He should be given us actual specific details of what happened.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Now, prosecuting these cases involving family members are some of
the most challenging and most heart wrenching cases that this
office faces because of the intimate and often brutal nature
of the crimes involved.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We know all this, but again not very open about details.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
These charges will be two counts of first degree murder
with the special circumstance of multiple murders.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, so he will. Obviously he's got a really, really
top lawyer. I know exactly who's paying for it. But
hopefully he's convicted. Hopefully he's he's eligible for the death penalty.
I would give it to him if I run a jury,
but he's facing life in prison otherwise, and I'm sure
they'll be able to convictim.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Our office will be filing charges against Nick Reiner, who
was accused of killing his parents. Actor director Rob Reiner
and photographer producer Michelle Singer Reiner. Our office.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Hopefully comes into court today. It was supposed to be yesterday.
They couldn't what they call medically clear and we have
to have a medical clearance to be taken to court,
just a procedural thing. So hopefully that happens today. Hopefully
he comes to court today and gets officially charged. Now,
the President Trump will make a big speech to the
nation tonight at nine o'clock. You know, years ago, it
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was quite a big deal when the president did that.
They would call all the networks and ask for a
time at eight o'clock or nine o'clock or whenever they wanted,
and every network would stop what they were doing and
broadcast the president's speech. It was on all the networks,
which meant in nineteen seventy eight or nineteen eighty seven
or nineteen ninety three, when they put it on all
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the networks, it meant sixty million people would see it. Well,
nobody watches network TV anymore, so if you got all
three networks to carry your speech, you'd be lucky. If
you got eight million people, it's a much much smaller audience.
And if you get the cable networks, well maybe then
you get six or seven million, but when you total
it all up, it's just not that big an audience anymore. Now,
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these networks have all agreed tonight at nine o'clock to
carry the speech. It's standard procedure that when a White
House ask you for the time, you carry the speech. Now,
with Trump, you know it's different. They might not. However,
I think the network's are a little afraid of Trump.
You know, he does come after them, he does sue them,
he does threaten them. So I think they're afraid not
to carry the speech. So we'll see will carry the speech.
(08:44):
We'll have it tonight at nine. Now. Obviously Fox, very
responsible network, will carry it. I would think CNN will
carry it because they got their panel of thirty two
liberals who want to trash him after the speech. Now,
MS now is not a really it's not really a
network anymore. It's not part of NBC. They threw MSNBC out,
(09:05):
took their name off it, so it's just a little
mom and pop shop. Now, I know they can do
whatever the hell they want. Will they carry it, I
don't know. I don't know. We'll see. The President can
threaten them, but there's not much he can threaten them
with they're not really anything anymore. But the speech tonight,
the agenda is nobody knows. It's being kept secret. I
(09:27):
would imagine the one thing we do now, he'll go
over his accomplishments, a couple of things he might want
to do now. Normally you wait till the State of
the Union speech in January, but I guess he feels
the need to do it now. Also, it's good to
do it right now tonight, right before the holidays, because
everybody's going to get all distracted for a couple of weeks.
But one of the things he'll do. They created this
(09:48):
whole fake myth of affordability, crisis, economy and crisis. The
economy is doing a hell of a lot better than
last year. It's not perfect, but the improvement over the
last year is amazing. Inflation hitting nine percent. Under Biden
it averaged five point six percent. Well it's down to
two point five percent. There's been a huge improvement in inflation.
(10:12):
The job numbers are up, and actually up more than
the numbers actually show because under Biden, when you saw
those jobs, there were government jobs. They were hiring government
people to make the job numbers go up. In this case,
it's all private sector jobs. So you've had a big improvement.
Gas prices are down all over the place, not New
York or California where the locals are keeping the gas
(10:33):
prices high, but the gas prices are averaging like two
dollars and fifty cents. You know, in one state, I
think it's Colorado, they finally went under two dollars. Oil
is fifty five dollars a barrel, down from one hundred
and ten. So gas prices, everything is better, much better,
But people don't know that because of the fake news.
But he'll have a chance to go over the actual
(10:54):
numbers tonight. I imagine he'll do that. He'll probably talk
about the narco terrorists and those boats, blowing those boats up.
It's something people like. They really like the idea of
wiping out the drug supply and stopping it. Obviously, he'll
go over the border, and the actual numbers of the
success at closing the border are pretty amazing, So he'll
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go over that, and I don't know what else we'll see. Hey,
the other thing, if you're watching that crazy MS NOW
or CNN or the late night shows, you know all
the left wing cooks, all they're talking about is Susie Wiles,
the White House chief of Staff, very disciplined, doesn't ever
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do interviews, stays under the radar, very quiet, very respected.
All they're talking about she gave an interview to Vanity
Fair and she said all kinds of things. She was
so blunt and said, you know, jd Vance is a
conspiracy theorist and all of that. Well, nobody in the
White House is upset about it for two reasons. One,
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nobody reads Vanity Fair. It's a tiny audience. The only
people that read it are the ms now people that
live in the echo chamber are the only ones that
read it. And Also, it's not an issue anywhere. It's
a Beltway DC issue, It's a CNN ms NOW issue.
This is not the American public. This is these left
wing kooks who live in this echo chamber. For them,
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it's a parlor game. They're all talking about this Susie
Wilds story. The old Washington test, The old DC test
is if you went to Green Bay, Wisconsin and went
into a diner, would anybody be talking about it. No,
there's nobody in a diner in Green Bay, Wisconsin discussing
Susie Wilds or the vanity fair piece. So it is
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totally meanless with the public. Even the people she criticized
just laughed it off. She said, the JD. Vance has
always been a conspiracy theorist. Here is Vance yesterday.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I haven't looked at the article.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I of course have heard about it, but conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe
in the conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Theories that are true.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Presidents spoke about said he couldn't care less about the
article meant nothing. Here's the Caroline Levet.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
This is, unfortunately another example of disingenuous reporting where you
have a reporter who took the chief of staff's words
wildly out of context, did not include the context those
conversations were had within. And then further, I think the
most egregious part of this article was the bias of omission.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, well there was a lot of that. And this guy,
why would you do an interview with this guy? Well,
this guy's supposedly a respected journalist who has a long
history of doing profiles of White House chiefs of staff,
all the great White Houses. He's done massive profiles of
the chiefs of staff. So that's why she did it,
but he's a very biased reporter. If you read them all,
(13:50):
it's hysterical. Every Democratic white House, the chief of staff
is a genius. It's a glowing piece about how wonderfully
is every Republican White House. The chief of staff is terrible.
He's awful. Everything's in chaos. So pretty obvious slanted bias. Hey,
we'll get to Jack Smith coming up. This is pretty
interesting the raid on mar a Lago. You know, there
(14:11):
were no classified documents at mar Lago. It was all
a fake, made up hoax. In the end, they did
find thirty five classified documents. If you put them in
a folder. The folder is one inch thick one inch,
So what the hell were those five hundred boxes in
the pictures each None of them contained any classified documents,
and there was no reason to do the raid. Emails
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have been discovered and released in Congress. They've released them.
It turns out the FBI itself said there's absolutely nothing
to justify his search. There's no real source that there's
classified documents there. It was one guy in the Archives Department.
They couldn't confirm it with anybody, and they kept telling
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them Justice Department, there's no justification for a search. But
it turns out, according to these emails, were ordered to
do it. The Biden administration ordered them. We don't care
if you don't know. I mean, just you're going to do
this raid. Now, there could be criminal charges over this.
President Trump could sue, he'd have a great lawsuit against
the Department of Justice and they'd have to pay him
(15:16):
a ton of money. But he could also find there
could be criminal charges here. Now Jacksmith had not yet
been appointed on this, but it could be Merrick Garland.
For the first time ever, he's possibly in some legal
jeopardy ordering this when the even the FBI was saying
there's no justification for a search. Hey, some terrible, terrible news.
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It's not confirmed, but Cardinal Dolan may be leaving. We
love Cardinal Dolan. He's seventy five. You know, when you're
seventy five, you're supposed to resign and retire as the
cardinals seventy five, it's a mandatory thing in the church.
He turned seventy five last year turned into his resignation.
But sometimes they just don't take it for a while.
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And you remember, the pope died and we had a
new pope, so that put everything on hold for a while,
and sometimes they cannot accept the resignation right away. But
there's rumors and word coming out of the archdiocese that
they're going to accept the resignation. Who would be the
new cardinal will? It looks like according again according to sources,
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So it's not one hundred percent. It's the bishop from
Chicago's name is Hicks. Very good resume for this sort
of stuff with including a lot of management experience, which
is important. So keep an eye on that. Hey, we'll
take some calls next. Eight hundred three to two one
zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred three to
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two one zero seven ten, R simone show on sevent
ten wor Hey, let's take some calls. Eight hundred three
to two one zero seven ten is the number. Let's
go to a Jacqueline in Brooklyn. Jacqueline, how you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Hi? Mark good? A little cold, but okay, I have
a question for you, Nick Reiner, the son of the
late Rob and Michelle Reiner. I don't know if you
knew them at all. No one is talking at all
about whether or not he had any type of mental
illness or whether he was on the spectrum. Asperger's anything
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like that. Yeah, Nick Reiner.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, obviously he was completely psycho had a million mental problems.
I never met I knew Rob Reiner, and I didn't
know the wife. I never met Nick, but just looking
at pictures and behavior, yeah, exactly, completely psycho this kid, yep, yep.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
He looked like there was something very wrong with him.
And everyone keeps talking about his drug addiction, his homelessness,
but no one ever mentioned anything. And there's no information
available online about whether or not he had any type
of problems.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No, no, no, no, no, of course there is. And he was
in rehab seventeen times, and he was treated by all
kinds of healthcare professionals. And you could look back and
say Rob Reiner should have done more, done something differently,
but he Rob Reiner said, you know, I'd meet with
these experts at the clinics and the doctors, and he
said they had all their diplomas on the wall. So
I just listened to them. I don't know if you're
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if you had a kid who was homeless, sleeping on
the streets, if you were a wealthy person and your
kid was sleeping on the streets, and apparently he was
homeless many different times through the years, and you know
why he was homeless in Texas, he was homeless, in Maine,
he was homeless. I don't know, would you leave your
kid out there? Would you do something which you haven't
committed in some I mean, whatever Rob Reiner did, and
(18:35):
I'm sure he did a lot, it just obviously wasn't enough.
He didn't do enough. Let's go to Mike in Florida. Mike,
how you doing.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Good morning, Mark, Yes, Mike, you no, just talking about
what you were just speaking about. You know, many drug
addicts are self medicating because of their mental illness. They go,
they get treatment, they don't like the drugs that the
traditionally prescribed, and they like to self medicate. So that's
sort of like the vicious cycle many of them in.
(19:02):
It's mental illness that causes drug addiction. But you know
the other thing about this story that besides the gruesome
nature of it and the circumstances, is the plaudits he's receiving,
deservedly of course, but I wonder sometimes if the gods
have been the president were killed, he would receive the
same growing. I know it's a macabre thought, but it's
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it's I can't help thinking about it. In those terms.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, it's a good point. You know. Obviously, if President
Trump died, you'd see them calling him every name in
the world, these same people. How could he speak like
that about Rob Reiner after he died. They do the
same thing with Donald Trump. And by the way, most
of them did the same thing to Rush Limbaugh. If
you go to my Twitter, we have a clip up
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of the view where everyone on the panel, this is
the day after Rush died trashism calls them all kinds
of things, I mean, just awful. And you could find
a million of these same people said horrible things about
Rush right after he died. So to be outraged about
what President Trump said. Again the hypocrisy Democrats are famous for.
Let's go to Pam and Patterson. Pam, how you doing hi?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
I think the other members of the Christmas party at
Conan's house can consider themselves lucky because I think he
was gearing himself up at that moment, and Bill Hayter
seems to have gotten his attention, and he wearing that hoodie,
so I think he was raging right then and there.
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And I think when his parents decided to leave Hope,
you know, that broke his momentum for that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, well it's interesting. You know, had he not killed
his parents gotten arrested, who knows that this kid would
have done. Who knows who he might have killed, hurt, maimed.
Who knows what this kid might have done had he
just been left to be walking out on the streets
and be free, he should have obviously been admitted someplace.
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I mean, he was just a time bomb waiting to
go off, waiting to kill somebody. Just unbelievable story. The
most people have been checking into this. The most famous
murder of anybody in Hollywood, I mean, the most famous
victim murdered in Hollywood ever. Anyway, when we come back,
Bill O'Reilly will be with us and we'll talk to
him about all of this. Coming up next on seven
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to ten WR.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Mark Simone, come on sevent WR.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
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(21:51):
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How you doing?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You know I'm wrapping presents that well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Don't you get him wrapped at the store. Don't don't
you get him.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I'm not rapping.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I actually hired people to do that because I can't
wrap anyway. Even if I could wrap, I can't wrap.
But you know, it's a crazy time, as you know.
This is uh our last chat I think before Christmas
and New Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Right, yeah, so you know, anywhere fun. I don't know,
I haven't decided yet.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh last minute kind of.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Guy, definitely always so, well, will you be around in Christmas?
You're going away here?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, I like to stay in the area. You know.
That's a tradition for my family. Uh in Levittown. We
had great Christmases there when I was growing up. Everybody
in the neighborhood got together and it was a much
lighter time and history than it is now. Uh, that's
(22:56):
for sure. But I've kind of extended that and so
we'll be on Long Island and hopefully everybody will be happy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah. Hey, I mean your message of the day. You
go to Bill O'Reilly dot com every day there's a
message of the day. But you're talking about Trump. You've
known forever. I've known this guy from millions a year.
I just got used to it. I think you haven't
gotten used to it yet, because you said I don't
understand why he likes to walk on the wild side.
That's him, that's part of him.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, but there's a calculation that you have to make.
And I think the President made a mistake with the
Rob Ryaner stuff, and not so much a Vanity Fair
said it was. That was just a foolish move. Why
buy the Why not give the time to Mark Simon
or Bill O'Reilly. You know who's going to give you
a fair assessment. Why do you want to go to
(23:50):
Vanity Fair out in Hollywood where they all hate you,
and you know they're not going to write anything good
about you. I don't understand that. But there comes a point,
and I know this to be true, where Donald Trump
wants his legacy in history to be cemented in a
positive way. And he has got an amazing story to tell.
(24:15):
Nobody's ever done what he's done as far as getting elected,
as far as trying to solve as many problems as
he's taken on. He's really got a good story to tell,
but it goes over the cliff with the Rob Reiner stuff,
and that is yes, you're correct, he's playing buoyant. He's
going to say he wants to say, and all that
(24:36):
has worked for him. It has all worked for him.
But now he's in a different stage of his life.
That's what I'm trying to get across when we speak. Now,
you've got to start cementing your legacy, and the first
step to that is winning the midterm elections next year.
(24:57):
If you lose, your legacy is going to be that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, well, of course you're one hundred percent right, totally right.
But again, I've known the guy from millions of years
and I've been hearing people say this forever and I
can't tell you why, but this is what he does.
He enjoys it. It's like when you see a normal,
distinguished guy and every night he goes out and gets
drunk out of his mind. Why does he do it?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I mean this is a you know, look, Trump likes
the action. Yeah, okay, he likes just like somebody goes
to casino. He's been in fifteen football games. He likes
the action, and he knows when he throws something out
on social media that the next day or two is
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going to be dominated by what he says, and that
engages him. Absolutely true, But there is a selective process.
You're going to have the action without hurting yourself. And
that's what I'm trying to get across.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh, you're right, but I'm you know, It's like I
love to watch the football game and then there's a
guy next to me who bet fortune on it and
he's having a heart attack during the game. I don't
know how you can enjoy that, but there are guys
that enjoy that, and that's trump you like that.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
No, I mean, look, I'm not a psychiatrist. All I'm
doing is trying to say, look, and this is my
whole career, more than fifty years. And you know, I
was at immediate party. Again, I never go to these things,
but Dan abrams through it and he's a good guy,
and so I did go. And you know, I'm the icon, No,
(26:31):
a last man standing, five year old, fifty years in
this business and the reason I'd lasted so long and
continue to do well is because I want the best
for the country. That is what I do. And I
(26:53):
clearly spell out why I say what I say, and
I think that Donald Trump has been a very good
president policy wise, you know. And I understand his anger
because the same thing happened to me at a much
more limited thing. But I've been attacked, you know, thirty
(27:14):
out of the fifty years, the first twenty were being
a reporter. So I was attack being a reporter once
I came into the news analysis area and my family, me, everybody,
and you are furious when that happens, and bitter, and
that is what Donald Trump is consumed by these people.
(27:35):
Just yesterday, the grass Leaders senator from Iowa puts out
that there's no probable cause to raid my alago for
the top secret documents. Then he did it anyway, and
nobody will be held to account. Well, he drives Trump nuts,
and it should. He's a human being. I got a
(27:59):
list of people that I like to visit and I
won't be bringing Christmas presents to him, but I'm a
little bit more restrained.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, but that's you, and you've always done a great show.
You don't cross the line. But I've seen other hosts,
and you know who some of them are, They've always
got to cross the line. They've always got to do
something outrageous, They've always got to get in a little trouble.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
They enjoy it, but that's because they don't have anything else.
They got to live and die on controversy. That's why
they make their money. But Trump's got other stuff, and
that's when we speak. That's what tried to cross to him,
because he knows that. You know, I wrote in fronting
the Presidents, and I didn't rank him, but you can
(28:42):
clearly see which presidents were successful and which presidents weren't.
And then Trump inherent's the second worst president in our history.
Joe Biden, all of that mess he has to deal with,
and he's dealt with it pretty effectively. But you really
need Rob Reiner. You don't. You can be in the
(29:03):
action without hurting yourself. That is my message.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's a good message, But it's not him. The only
guy I've ever seen change maybe Howard Stern, who was,
you know, always getting himself into trouble and then a
couple of years ago decided I'm gonna clean all that up.
I'm gonna be woke, I'm gonna be That's the only
one of those guys I've ever seen switch and actually change.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And I don't think Trump has to change, he just
has to modify a little bit. I think it would
be bad for him to change because he gets a
lot done by sheer force personality, by just his presence.
(29:44):
So why would you change that. I wouldn't, But you
have a selective menu of things that you can tweet about,
and when somebody's throat is cut, I don't know if
I would go into that precinct.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
No, of course I wouldn't either. But and he should modify,
but let's not hold our breath waiting for it. I
don't think it's good.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Look, it's not my job to be his campaign manager.
I'm not Colonel Tom Parker with hels Okay. I'm looking
out for the country. And he's a strong president who's
done a lot of good and a lot of Americans
will never admit it because they believe what they want
to believe. But he has. He's brought a lot of
(30:34):
different approaches to solving problems and has been successful more
than he's not been successful. So you don't want to
blunt that. I don't think like creating unnecessary barriers for yourself.
But you're right, I mean again, I mean, I can
(30:54):
only do what I can do. I can talk to
guys like you. I can do the no Spin news
as I can go on news Nation, I can write
my books. I can't do any more than that. But
I am I have to tell the truth. I'm compelled
to tell it, and that I think has worked for me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well again, you're not wrong, You're not wrong. But it's
always going to be this way with him. Hey, by
the way, Christmas, book is a great Christmas present. You
don't have to go in the store and look for
a book is a perfect present. People.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, you know your life in this very troubling age
where evil seems to be overwhelming us, people need to
know about how it assembles, how it gains power, and
how what you can do as a human being a
good person to mitigate it. Because as much as evil
(31:50):
in a Bondai Beach or Brown University, it's in your
neighborhood and sometimes in your own family, as the Whiners
found out, And when you see it, you can't turn away.
That's the theme of the book. But what I've done
is to save people money, because I know money is
tight with the insurance payments you got to make, and
(32:12):
we all have to make and the food. I put
all my books together, fifteen of them, thirteen killing, two
confronting for a very very reasonable price on Bill O'Reilly
dot com. You give those books away as presents. You
will save yourself hundreds of dollars by doing that. And
these books are in demand. People want them. Sound like
(32:34):
a tie or something, you know, if you give somebody
a tie, because in a droid of a seat. Again, No,
so you know, we're all we can make a lot
more money than we make. But I'm not in business
to do that. I'm in business to try, as I said,
to make the country a little bit better, a little
bit more comfortable.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, well it's a great Christmas viasent. You get one book,
but the best deal is the fifteen best sellers, and
you got all your Christmas shopping done right there, Billy
com Billoreilly dot com. Well, Bill O'Reilly, we'll talk to you,
I guess in the new year. Have a great holiday
and thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, you had a great people should know. Simone had
a great twenty twenty five, very strong ratings. So you
deserve your time off. I hope you have, you know, fun.
And first thing twenty six.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
We'll be back all right, Bill, O'Reilly, Thanks for being
with us, Take care. Hey, don't forget coming up at noon,
buck Sexton, Clay Travis, great show here on seven ten wor. Hey,
you've got another hour to go, a lot to get
to right after the news here on seven ten Woir
You just heard the news.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now you'll find out what it all means.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Hey smart simone on seven tenor Hey, well.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I forget to We'll get to the president's speech. It's
gonna happen tonight. What's that all about. We'll get to
the fake Susie Wilds controversy. We'll get to Nick Reiner.
More details coming out, We'll get to Milania. We'll get
a Cardinal Dolan who we love, maybe leaving. We'll get
to that coming up in more. Oh, Jack Smith and
(00:33):
Merrick Garland. I've been caught again in just total law
fair corruption. We'll get to that just ahead. So hey,
let's just talk about the Nick Reiner for a second now.
If you were listening Monday and Tuesday and we went
over the story, what was known about the case and
the big problem with LA I don't know why, but
(00:54):
they're just not very forthcoming. The disc attorney, the police chief,
they speak, they hold prescot, but they don't give you
the details. So we've been depending on police sources to
leak stuff out. And the original story we got leaked
out being reported was that the daughter who lives on
(01:15):
the property in a guest house, heard loud arguing and
at some point went over to check and found the bodies. Well,
now there's a whole different story being leaked out of
the police department. So again these are from good police sources,
but you know, I can't guarantee everything because it's not
official on the record. But it's also the fog of war,
(01:36):
you know, you get all kinds of reports. But the
latest version coming out of the police department is the
daughter lives in the guest house and a masseuse comes
to the winers' house on Sundays to give them massages.
The masseuse could not get in. They didn't answer. They
didn't answer the gate. The house open the gate, they
(01:58):
didn't answer the phone, well, didn't answer anything highly unusual
for them. So the masseuse got concerned, called the daughter,
who lives with a roommate, and the two of them
went over to check. And the story is when the
daughter walked in, she found Rob Reiner's body there on
the floor somewhere. Obviously, went into shock and had the
(02:19):
roommate call nine to one pint one. The roommate calls
the police, while the daughter calls Billy Crystal, who it
turns out is Rhiner's closest friend, Crystal and his wife
race over to the scene, and the police arrive at
about the same time, and the daughter and roommate are
waiting outside while the police. Everybody's in there now. The
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daughter didn't know that the mother had also been stabbed.
The police had to come out and tell her it's
not just your father. Apparently he was outside the bedroom,
and when they went in the bedroom, they found the
mother dead, throat slit, and they had to tell the
daughter it's just a horrible, horrible, horrible story. I was
saying that it looked like rigor mortis had had started
(03:03):
setting in. That means they'd been dead for a few hours.
So the new version that's coming out of the police
department is that the night before they're at this Conan
O'Brien Christmas party, Nick Reiner gets into a huge fight
with his father. He'd been getting into fights with a
lot of people around the room, a lot of people
(03:27):
disturbed by his behavior, his appearance. He came in with
a sweatsuit and a hoodie over his head and at
one point got in a fights with people. We've got
into arguments with people, looked really really weird with people,
and some of them even left the party. They didn't
want to deal with him. Bill Hayter was one of them.
(03:47):
Hayter was talking to somebody and Nick Reiner came over
with that psycho look. I guess hater didn't know who
he was, and said, excuse us, this is a private conversation.
Chased him away. Well, then Nick Reiner came over and
just glared at him with a scary, scary looking stare,
so scary that the hater left the party. Nick Reiner
(04:08):
then got a huge screaming fight with his father in
the party. It got so out of control and alarmed
the other guests. It got so out of control that
Rob Ryder and his wife decided they should leave the party.
The crazy son, Nick Reiner left, So it now looks
like it's possible that it was later that night, in
the middle of the night, that he went and maybe
(04:31):
maybe that's when it happened stabbed his parents, because he
then at four point thirty in the morning showed up
at this hotel to check into the hotel. So if
he had later that night gone to the house, stabbed them,
killed them, obviously he wouldn't continue to stay in the
guest house right on the property, so that could be
why at four thirty in the morning he went and
checked into a hotel. Police found him the next day.
(04:53):
He was dressed all in dark clothes, wearing a baseball cap.
They had pictures of him, a description of him. He
was at a metro station, this is fifteen miles away
from the Reiner house. Two police cars saw him. They
pulled up, surrounded him. He didn't resist. He put his
arms up in surrender, and they've taken him into custody.
(05:14):
He's been in a protective custody. He's been on suicide watch.
Was supposed to appear in court yesterday. He's got a
top top LA lawyer, one of the biggest best LA lawyers,
the guy who had defended Harvey Weinstein's defended other high
profile murderers. Now here's the District Attorney of Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Their loss is beyond tragic, and we have we will
commit ourselves to bringing their murderer to justice.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, no, they could charge him. They're going to charge
him with two counts of murder, with aggravated this, aggravated that.
So he is facing the death penalty.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Rob Reiner was a brilliant actor and director, an iconic
force in our entertainment industry for deck Aids, his wife,
Michelle Singer Reiner was inequally iconic photography.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
One thing I don't like it's the secretorny. He's great
with all these long speeches, but why has he given us.
He should be given us actual specific details of what happened.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Now, prosecuting these cases involving family members are some of
the most challenging and most heart wrenching cases that this
office faces because of the intimate and often brutal nature
of the crimes involved.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We know all this, but again not very open about details.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
These charges will be two counts of first degree murder
with the special circumstance of multiple murders.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, so he will. Obviously he's got a really, really
top lawyer. I know exactly who's paying for it. But
hopefully he's convicted. Hopefully he's he's eligible for the death penalty.
I would give it to him if I run a jury,
but he's facing life in prison otherwise, and I'm sure
they'll be able to convictim.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Our office will be filing charges against Nick Reiner, who
was accused of killing his parents. Actor director Rob Reiner
and photographer producer Michelle Singer Reiner. Our office.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Hopefully comes into court today. It was supposed to be yesterday.
They couldn't what they call medically clear and we have
to have a medical clearance to be taken to court,
just a procedural thing. So hopefully that happens today. Hopefully
he comes to court today and gets officially charged. Now,
the President Trump will make a big speech to the
nation tonight at nine o'clock. You know, years ago, it
(07:37):
was quite a big deal when the president did that.
They would call all the networks and ask for a
time at eight o'clock or nine o'clock or whenever they wanted,
and every network would stop what they were doing and
broadcast the president's speech. It was on all the networks,
which meant in nineteen seventy eight or nineteen eighty seven
or nineteen ninety three, when they put it on all
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the networks, it meant sixty million people would see it. Well,
nobody watches network TV anymore, so if you got all
three networks to carry your speech, you'd be lucky. If
you got eight million people, it's a much much smaller audience.
And if you get the cable networks, well maybe then
you get six or seven million, but when you total
it all up, it's just not that big an audience anymore. Now,
(08:22):
these networks have all agreed tonight at nine o'clock to
carry the speech. It's standard procedure that when a White
House ask you for the time, you carry the speech. Now,
with Trump, you know it's different. They might not. However,
I think the network's are a little afraid of Trump.
You know, he does come after them, he does sue them,
he does threaten them. So I think they're afraid not
to carry the speech. So we'll see will carry the speech.
(08:44):
We'll have it tonight at nine. Now. Obviously Fox, very
responsible network, will carry it. I would think CNN will
carry it because they got their panel of thirty two
liberals who want to trash him after the speech. Now,
MS now is not a really it's not really a
network anymore. It's not part of NBC. They threw MSNBC out,
(09:05):
took their name off it, so it's just a little
mom and pop shop. Now, I know they can do
whatever the hell they want. Will they carry it, I
don't know. I don't know. We'll see. The President can
threaten them, but there's not much he can threaten them
with they're not really anything anymore. But the speech tonight,
the agenda is nobody knows. It's being kept secret. I
(09:27):
would imagine the one thing we do now, he'll go
over his accomplishments, a couple of things he might want
to do now. Normally you wait till the State of
the Union speech in January, but I guess he feels
the need to do it now. Also, it's good to
do it right now tonight, right before the holidays, because
everybody's going to get all distracted for a couple of weeks.
But one of the things he'll do. They created this
(09:48):
whole fake myth of affordability, crisis, economy and crisis. The
economy is doing a hell of a lot better than
last year. It's not perfect, but the improvement over the
last year is amazing. Inflation hitting nine percent. Under Biden
it averaged five point six percent. Well it's down to
two point five percent. There's been a huge improvement in inflation.
(10:12):
The job numbers are up, and actually up more than
the numbers actually show because under Biden, when you saw
those jobs, there were government jobs. They were hiring government
people to make the job numbers go up. In this case,
it's all private sector jobs. So you've had a big improvement.
Gas prices are down all over the place, not New
York or California where the locals are keeping the gas
(10:33):
prices high, but the gas prices are averaging like two
dollars and fifty cents. You know, in one state, I
think it's Colorado, they finally went under two dollars. Oil
is fifty five dollars a barrel, down from one hundred
and ten. So gas prices, everything is better, much better,
But people don't know that because of the fake news.
But he'll have a chance to go over the actual
(10:54):
numbers tonight. I imagine he'll do that. He'll probably talk
about the narco terrorists and those boats, blowing those boats up.
It's something people like. They really like the idea of
wiping out the drug supply and stopping it. Obviously, he'll
go over the border, and the actual numbers of the
success at closing the border are pretty amazing, So he'll
(11:17):
go over that, and I don't know what else we'll see. Hey,
the other thing, if you're watching that crazy MS NOW
or CNN or the late night shows, you know all
the left wing cooks, all they're talking about is Susie Wiles,
the White House chief of Staff, very disciplined, doesn't ever
(11:38):
do interviews, stays under the radar, very quiet, very respected.
All they're talking about she gave an interview to Vanity
Fair and she said all kinds of things. She was
so blunt and said, you know, jd Vance is a
conspiracy theorist and all of that. Well, nobody in the
White House is upset about it for two reasons. One,
(11:58):
nobody reads Vanity Fair. It's a tiny audience. The only
people that read it are the ms now people that
live in the echo chamber are the only ones that
read it. And Also, it's not an issue anywhere. It's
a Beltway DC issue, It's a CNN ms NOW issue.
This is not the American public. This is these left
wing kooks who live in this echo chamber. For them,
(12:20):
it's a parlor game. They're all talking about this Susie
Wilds story. The old Washington test, The old DC test
is if you went to Green Bay, Wisconsin and went
into a diner, would anybody be talking about it. No,
there's nobody in a diner in Green Bay, Wisconsin discussing
Susie Wilds or the vanity fair piece. So it is
(12:40):
totally meanless with the public. Even the people she criticized
just laughed it off. She said, the JD. Vance has
always been a conspiracy theorist. Here is Vance yesterday.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I haven't looked at the article.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
I of course have heard about it, but conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe
in the conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Theories that are true.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Presidents spoke about said he couldn't care less about the
article meant nothing. Here's the Caroline Levet.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
This is, unfortunately another example of disingenuous reporting where you
have a reporter who took the chief of staff's words
wildly out of context, did not include the context those
conversations were had within. And then further, I think the
most egregious part of this article was the bias of omission.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, well there was a lot of that. And this guy,
why would you do an interview with this guy? Well,
this guy's supposedly a respected journalist who has a long
history of doing profiles of White House chiefs of staff,
all the great White Houses. He's done massive profiles of
the chiefs of staff. So that's why she did it,
but he's a very biased reporter. If you read them all,
(13:50):
it's hysterical. Every Democratic white House, the chief of staff
is a genius. It's a glowing piece about how wonderfully
is every Republican White House. The chief of staff is terrible.
He's awful. Everything's in chaos. So pretty obvious slanted bias. Hey,
we'll get to Jack Smith coming up. This is pretty
interesting the raid on mar a Lago. You know, there
(14:11):
were no classified documents at mar Lago. It was all
a fake, made up hoax. In the end, they did
find thirty five classified documents. If you put them in
a folder. The folder is one inch thick one inch,
So what the hell were those five hundred boxes in
the pictures each None of them contained any classified documents,
and there was no reason to do the raid. Emails
(14:33):
have been discovered and released in Congress. They've released them.
It turns out the FBI itself said there's absolutely nothing
to justify his search. There's no real source that there's
classified documents there. It was one guy in the Archives Department.
They couldn't confirm it with anybody, and they kept telling
(14:54):
them Justice Department, there's no justification for a search. But
it turns out, according to these emails, were ordered to
do it. The Biden administration ordered them. We don't care
if you don't know. I mean, just you're going to do
this raid. Now, there could be criminal charges over this.
President Trump could sue, he'd have a great lawsuit against
the Department of Justice and they'd have to pay him
(15:16):
a ton of money. But he could also find there
could be criminal charges here. Now Jacksmith had not yet
been appointed on this, but it could be Merrick Garland.
For the first time ever, he's possibly in some legal
jeopardy ordering this when the even the FBI was saying
there's no justification for a search. Hey, some terrible, terrible news.
(15:38):
It's not confirmed, but Cardinal Dolan may be leaving. We
love Cardinal Dolan. He's seventy five. You know, when you're
seventy five, you're supposed to resign and retire as the
cardinals seventy five, it's a mandatory thing in the church.
He turned seventy five last year turned into his resignation.
But sometimes they just don't take it for a while.
(15:59):
And you remember, the pope died and we had a
new pope, so that put everything on hold for a while,
and sometimes they cannot accept the resignation right away. But
there's rumors and word coming out of the archdiocese that
they're going to accept the resignation. Who would be the
new cardinal will? It looks like according again according to sources,
(16:20):
So it's not one hundred percent. It's the bishop from
Chicago's name is Hicks. Very good resume for this sort
of stuff with including a lot of management experience, which
is important. So keep an eye on that. Hey, we'll
take some calls next. Eight hundred three to two one
zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred three to
(16:41):
two one zero seven ten, R simone show on sevent
ten wor Hey, let's take some calls. Eight hundred three
to two one zero seven ten is the number. Let's
go to a Jacqueline in Brooklyn. Jacqueline, how you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Hi? Mark good? A little cold, but okay, I have
a question for you, Nick Reiner, the son of the
late Rob and Michelle Reiner. I don't know if you
knew them at all. No one is talking at all
about whether or not he had any type of mental
illness or whether he was on the spectrum. Asperger's anything
(17:17):
like that. Yeah, Nick Reiner.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, obviously he was completely psycho had a million mental problems.
I never met I knew Rob Reiner, and I didn't
know the wife. I never met Nick, but just looking
at pictures and behavior, yeah, exactly, completely psycho this kid, yep, yep.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
He looked like there was something very wrong with him.
And everyone keeps talking about his drug addiction, his homelessness,
but no one ever mentioned anything. And there's no information
available online about whether or not he had any type
of problems.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No, no, no, no, no, of course there is. And he was
in rehab seventeen times, and he was treated by all
kinds of healthcare professionals. And you could look back and
say Rob Reiner should have done more, done something differently,
but he Rob Reiner said, you know, I'd meet with
these experts at the clinics and the doctors, and he
said they had all their diplomas on the wall. So
I just listened to them. I don't know if you're
(18:11):
if you had a kid who was homeless, sleeping on
the streets, if you were a wealthy person and your
kid was sleeping on the streets, and apparently he was
homeless many different times through the years, and you know
why he was homeless in Texas, he was homeless, in Maine,
he was homeless. I don't know, would you leave your
kid out there? Would you do something which you haven't
committed in some I mean, whatever Rob Reiner did, and
(18:35):
I'm sure he did a lot, it just obviously wasn't enough.
He didn't do enough. Let's go to Mike in Florida. Mike,
how you doing.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Good morning, Mark, Yes, Mike, you no, just talking about
what you were just speaking about. You know, many drug
addicts are self medicating because of their mental illness. They go,
they get treatment, they don't like the drugs that the
traditionally prescribed, and they like to self medicate. So that's
sort of like the vicious cycle many of them in.
(19:02):
It's mental illness that causes drug addiction. But you know
the other thing about this story that besides the gruesome
nature of it and the circumstances, is the plaudits he's receiving,
deservedly of course, but I wonder sometimes if the gods
have been the president were killed, he would receive the
same growing. I know it's a macabre thought, but it's
(19:25):
it's I can't help thinking about it. In those terms.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
No, it's a good point. You know. Obviously, if President
Trump died, you'd see them calling him every name in
the world, these same people. How could he speak like
that about Rob Reiner after he died. They do the
same thing with Donald Trump. And by the way, most
of them did the same thing to Rush Limbaugh. If
you go to my Twitter, we have a clip up
(19:48):
of the view where everyone on the panel, this is
the day after Rush died trashism calls them all kinds
of things, I mean, just awful. And you could find
a million of these same people said horrible things about
Rush right after he died. So to be outraged about
what President Trump said. Again the hypocrisy Democrats are famous for.
Let's go to Pam and Patterson. Pam, how you doing hi?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
I think the other members of the Christmas party at
Conan's house can consider themselves lucky because I think he
was gearing himself up at that moment, and Bill Hayter
seems to have gotten his attention, and he wearing that hoodie,
so I think he was raging right then and there.
(20:33):
And I think when his parents decided to leave Hope,
you know, that broke his momentum for that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, well it's interesting. You know, had he not killed
his parents gotten arrested, who knows that this kid would
have done. Who knows who he might have killed, hurt, maimed.
Who knows what this kid might have done had he
just been left to be walking out on the streets
and be free, he should have obviously been admitted someplace.
(21:02):
I mean, he was just a time bomb waiting to
go off, waiting to kill somebody. Just unbelievable story. The
most people have been checking into this. The most famous
murder of anybody in Hollywood, I mean, the most famous
victim murdered in Hollywood ever. Anyway, when we come back,
Bill O'Reilly will be with us and we'll talk to
him about all of this. Coming up next on seven
(21:22):
to ten WR.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Mark Simone, come on sevent WR.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well Bill O'Reilly, the number one TV anchor for decades,
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(21:51):
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How you doing?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You know I'm wrapping presents that well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Don't you get him wrapped at the store. Don't don't
you get him.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I'm not rapping.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I actually hired people to do that because I can't
wrap anyway. Even if I could wrap, I can't wrap.
But you know, it's a crazy time, as you know.
This is uh our last chat I think before Christmas
and New Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Right, yeah, so you know, anywhere fun. I don't know,
I haven't decided yet.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh last minute kind of.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Guy, definitely always so, well, will you be around in Christmas?
You're going away here?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, I like to stay in the area. You know.
That's a tradition for my family. Uh in Levittown. We
had great Christmases there when I was growing up. Everybody
in the neighborhood got together and it was a much
lighter time and history than it is now. Uh, that's
(22:56):
for sure. But I've kind of extended that and so
we'll be on Long Island and hopefully everybody will be happy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah. Hey, I mean your message of the day. You
go to Bill O'Reilly dot com every day there's a
message of the day. But you're talking about Trump. You've
known forever. I've known this guy from millions a year.
I just got used to it. I think you haven't
gotten used to it yet, because you said I don't
understand why he likes to walk on the wild side.
That's him, that's part of him.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, but there's a calculation that you have to make.
And I think the President made a mistake with the
Rob Ryaner stuff, and not so much a Vanity Fair
said it was. That was just a foolish move. Why
buy the Why not give the time to Mark Simon
or Bill O'Reilly. You know who's going to give you
a fair assessment. Why do you want to go to
(23:50):
Vanity Fair out in Hollywood where they all hate you,
and you know they're not going to write anything good
about you. I don't understand that. But there comes a point,
and I know this to be true, where Donald Trump
wants his legacy in history to be cemented in a
positive way. And he has got an amazing story to tell.
(24:15):
Nobody's ever done what he's done as far as getting elected,
as far as trying to solve as many problems as
he's taken on. He's really got a good story to tell,
but it goes over the cliff with the Rob Reiner stuff,
and that is yes, you're correct, he's playing buoyant. He's
going to say he wants to say, and all that
(24:36):
has worked for him. It has all worked for him.
But now he's in a different stage of his life.
That's what I'm trying to get across when we speak. Now,
you've got to start cementing your legacy, and the first
step to that is winning the midterm elections next year.
(24:57):
If you lose, your legacy is going to be that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, well, of course you're one hundred percent right, totally right.
But again, I've known the guy from millions of years
and I've been hearing people say this forever and I
can't tell you why, but this is what he does.
He enjoys it. It's like when you see a normal,
distinguished guy and every night he goes out and gets
drunk out of his mind. Why does he do it?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I mean this is a you know, look, Trump likes
the action. Yeah, okay, he likes just like somebody goes
to casino. He's been in fifteen football games. He likes
the action, and he knows when he throws something out
on social media that the next day or two is
(25:42):
going to be dominated by what he says, and that
engages him. Absolutely true, But there is a selective process.
You're going to have the action without hurting yourself. And
that's what I'm trying to get across.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh, you're right, but I'm you know, It's like I
love to watch the football game and then there's a
guy next to me who bet fortune on it and
he's having a heart attack during the game. I don't
know how you can enjoy that, but there are guys
that enjoy that, and that's trump you like that.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
No, I mean, look, I'm not a psychiatrist. All I'm
doing is trying to say, look, and this is my
whole career, more than fifty years. And you know, I
was at immediate party. Again, I never go to these things,
but Dan abrams through it and he's a good guy,
and so I did go. And you know, I'm the icon, No,
(26:31):
a last man standing, five year old, fifty years in
this business and the reason I'd lasted so long and
continue to do well is because I want the best
for the country. That is what I do. And I
(26:53):
clearly spell out why I say what I say, and
I think that Donald Trump has been a very good
president policy wise, you know. And I understand his anger
because the same thing happened to me at a much
more limited thing. But I've been attacked, you know, thirty
(27:14):
out of the fifty years, the first twenty were being
a reporter. So I was attack being a reporter once
I came into the news analysis area and my family, me, everybody,
and you are furious when that happens, and bitter, and
that is what Donald Trump is consumed by these people.
(27:35):
Just yesterday, the grass Leaders senator from Iowa puts out
that there's no probable cause to raid my alago for
the top secret documents. Then he did it anyway, and
nobody will be held to account. Well, he drives Trump nuts,
and it should. He's a human being. I got a
(27:59):
list of people that I like to visit and I
won't be bringing Christmas presents to him, but I'm a
little bit more restrained.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, but that's you, and you've always done a great show.
You don't cross the line. But I've seen other hosts,
and you know who some of them are, They've always
got to cross the line. They've always got to do
something outrageous, They've always got to get in a little trouble.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
They enjoy it, but that's because they don't have anything else.
They got to live and die on controversy. That's why
they make their money. But Trump's got other stuff, and
that's when we speak. That's what tried to cross to him,
because he knows that. You know, I wrote in fronting
the Presidents, and I didn't rank him, but you can
(28:42):
clearly see which presidents were successful and which presidents weren't.
And then Trump inherent's the second worst president in our history.
Joe Biden, all of that mess he has to deal with,
and he's dealt with it pretty effectively. But you really
need Rob Reiner. You don't. You can be in the
(29:03):
action without hurting yourself. That is my message.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's a good message, But it's not him. The only
guy I've ever seen change maybe Howard Stern, who was,
you know, always getting himself into trouble and then a
couple of years ago decided I'm gonna clean all that up.
I'm gonna be woke, I'm gonna be That's the only
one of those guys I've ever seen switch and actually change.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And I don't think Trump has to change, he just
has to modify a little bit. I think it would
be bad for him to change because he gets a
lot done by sheer force personality, by just his presence.
(29:44):
So why would you change that. I wouldn't, But you
have a selective menu of things that you can tweet about,
and when somebody's throat is cut, I don't know if
I would go into that precinct.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
No, of course I wouldn't either. But and he should modify,
but let's not hold our breath waiting for it. I
don't think it's good.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Look, it's not my job to be his campaign manager.
I'm not Colonel Tom Parker with hels Okay. I'm looking
out for the country. And he's a strong president who's
done a lot of good and a lot of Americans
will never admit it because they believe what they want
to believe. But he has. He's brought a lot of
(30:34):
different approaches to solving problems and has been successful more
than he's not been successful. So you don't want to
blunt that. I don't think like creating unnecessary barriers for yourself.
But you're right, I mean again, I mean, I can
(30:54):
only do what I can do. I can talk to
guys like you. I can do the no Spin news
as I can go on news Nation, I can write
my books. I can't do any more than that. But
I am I have to tell the truth. I'm compelled
to tell it, and that I think has worked for me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well again, you're not wrong, You're not wrong. But it's
always going to be this way with him. Hey, by
the way, Christmas, book is a great Christmas present. You
don't have to go in the store and look for
a book is a perfect present. People.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, you know your life in this very troubling age
where evil seems to be overwhelming us, people need to
know about how it assembles, how it gains power, and
how what you can do as a human being a
good person to mitigate it. Because as much as evil
(31:50):
in a Bondai Beach or Brown University, it's in your
neighborhood and sometimes in your own family, as the Whiners
found out, And when you see it, you can't turn away.
That's the theme of the book. But what I've done
is to save people money, because I know money is
tight with the insurance payments you got to make, and
(32:12):
we all have to make and the food. I put
all my books together, fifteen of them, thirteen killing, two
confronting for a very very reasonable price on Bill O'Reilly
dot com. You give those books away as presents. You
will save yourself hundreds of dollars by doing that. And
these books are in demand. People want them. Sound like
(32:34):
a tie or something, you know, if you give somebody
a tie, because in a droid of a seat. Again, No,
so you know, we're all we can make a lot
more money than we make. But I'm not in business
to do that. I'm in business to try, as I said,
to make the country a little bit better, a little
bit more comfortable.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, well it's a great Christmas viasent. You get one book,
but the best deal is the fifteen best sellers, and
you got all your Christmas shopping done right there, Billy
com Billoreilly dot com. Well, Bill O'Reilly, we'll talk to you,
I guess in the new year. Have a great holiday
and thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, you had a great people should know. Simone had
a great twenty twenty five, very strong ratings. So you
deserve your time off. I hope you have, you know, fun.
And first thing twenty six.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
We'll be back all right, Bill, O'Reilly, Thanks for being
with us, Take care. Hey, don't forget coming up at noon,
buck Sexton, Clay Travis, great show here on seven ten wor. Hey,
you've got another hour to go, a lot to get
to right after the news here on seven ten Woir
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