December 16, 2025 • 33 mins
Mark gives us the latest breaking news updates on the murder of actor Rob Reiner and his wife. Their son, Nick Reiner, appears in court today, charged with their murders. Mark takes your calls! Mark interviews TV personality Rhonda Shear. Rhonda shares her grief over the loss of Rob Reiner and his wife. She also provides an update on her “Up All Night” Christmas special.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now this is the Mark Simon Show on seven tenor.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Wow, this ought to be interesting. We'll get to Rob
Reiner in great detail. We'll get to President Trump's attack
on Rob Reiner. Why did he do it? Why did
he have to do that? How could he do such
a thing. Well, we'll get to all that coming up.
We'll get to White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles,
who usually stays way below the radar. I don't know why,
(00:28):
gave a big interview to Vanity Fair and it's causing
all kinds of controversy. We'll get to that. We'll get
to Howard Stern he announced he staying but with about
one hundred asterisks on that. We'll get to Bruce Blakeman
running for governor. We'll get to We've got a lot
to get to. Curtis will be with us a little later.
Can't wait to hear what he's got to say about everything.
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So here's what we know. More stuff coming out every
hour about the whole Rob Reiner situation. You know, the
he was murdered Sunday afternoon about three o'clock, and that
night he was he and his wife were supposed to
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have dinner with Michelle and Barack Obama. They were supposed
to have dinner that night, and that's quite a I
don't mean a group be gruesome, but you know, sometimes
you get a call, Hey, we're gonna have to cancel,
not feeling well or something like that. But to get
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a call have to cancel, what's the matter, Well they're dead?
What dad throat slit? They can't come to dinner. I mean,
what a shock that must have been. Now all sorts
of stuff is coming out as we know now it
looks like it's Nick Reiner the Sun. The night before,
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there's a big Christmas party thrown by Conan O'Brien, and
I don't know why Rob Righter and his wife are
going to the party. They brought a couple of the kids.
I don't know why they brought the son Nick or
why he was there, because everybody said he clearly didn't
fit in, didn't want to be there. It was, you know,
a nice, fancy Christmas party with everybody dressed up, and
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Nick Ryner shows up with a hoodie. You know, it's
like a sweatsuit and a hoodie with the hood up
over his head, looking very very out of place. Also,
in the middle of the crowd, looking very angry, like
he didn't want to be there. He didn't like this,
He resented this, and whenever he would look at anybody
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or talk to him, it was always with an angry look.
And he they said, some people he went around said
are you famous? Are you famous? So he just you know,
for a kid with all kinds of mental problems to
be in a very agitated state and to be in
this room was a little bizarre. And then at some
point he got into a fight with his and just
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freaked out completely and starts yelling and screaming, and the
father starts yelling and screaming back. And this is in
the middle of the party. I mean, it was a
very loud, screaming argument that went on for a long time,
freaking out everybody else in the party. So at some
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point the kid left, and then Rob Reiner and his wife,
realizing they had totally ruined the party and upset everybody,
they left as well. Now we now know that the
kid left the party and did something. For a few hours.
He was living, apparently in a guest house on the
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Rob Reiner estate. On the compound, there's a guest house.
He was living there, but he may have gone back
there to get some things, but he didn't stay there. Instead,
later that night, in the middle of the night, actually
about four in the morning, he checked into a motel
in Santa Monica. So he left Brent Would went to
Santa Monica. Checked into this hotel at about four in
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the morning. The staff thought that he looked a little well,
let's just say, wound up a little nutty. But you
know who checks into a Hollywood hotel at four in
the morning, but a nutty looking guy in a hoodie.
So he checked in and then it was the next day.
He was still probably all crazed over the fight, whatever
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that was. The next day, went back to Rob Reiner's house,
had an extremely loud argument. The daughter could hear it
from she was also living in another guest house on
the property. She could hear the argument and it went
on for a while, and then I guess it stopped,
and that's why she decided to go check on her
parents and she found them dead. Imagine the daughter goes
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and finds them dead, their throat slit, blood everywhere, was
just awful. She immediately calls the police. And then I
didn't realize it were really really the family was really
close to Billy Crystal and his wife. So as soon
as she calls the police and hangs up, she then
immediately calls Billy Crystal and tells him what's happened. He
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and his wife jump in the car and race over
to Rob Reiner's house and get there about the same
time as the police. So they came in as the
police are getting there. So Billy Crystal and his wife
as they come in, see the bodies on the floor,
the throat slit, the blood, every it must have been
just horrifying. And that's why reporters said when they saw
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Billy Crystal come out of the house, he and his
wife were very shaken up. We're crying and so imagine
this is your close friend. You see the bodies like that.
So the police are there, a huge response from the
police department, and then she, the daughter, tells them, you
got to look at the sun. He's crazy. He's got
a history of violent, crazy behavior, and they've had a
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big fight. I heard fighting. She tells me to look
for him. They go look for him. It took a
while to find him. They finally released the pictures of
them arresting him. I think he was at a train
station or a bus station. They find him, arrest him.
You can see a picture of him being thrown to
the ground and handcuffed and then pushed up against the
car frisked, I guess, and then they throw him in
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the car. He's a troubled kid. He's been in rehab
over seventeen times since the age of fifteen. They've talked
before about whether or not he was a danger, and
you know, experts will tell you that these kind of situations,
the family never fully understands the danger. They always underestimate
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the violent danger of the kid.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
This doesn't just start the day before yesterday, so there
was ongoing issues between them. And when I've seen cases
like this in the past, oftentimes the family underestimates the
potential of their loved one in terms of what they
could do to them. But I think we're going to
see the patterns begin to come to the surface over time,
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because that is a lot of anger. That's a lot
of rage. It doesn't just start on the night of
the attack.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So the police find out the kid, Nick Reiner, was
in a hotel room. They go to the hotel and
they find the hotel room is got blood everywhere, there's
blood on the sheets. There's blood everywhere in this hotel room.
And he had taken some sheets and put them up
over the window to cover the windows, and then there's
blood all over the hotel room. Now, what could you
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be doing in there that would cause all this blood?
He might say, Well, when he was stabbing his mother
and father, he might have gotten blood all over him,
But when he checked in, they didn't see blood all
over him. So who knows what he did in that
room to cause all that blood to be everywhere. The
kid obviously completely psycho, just literally just a raging maniac.
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So he's under arrest, he's in custody. He's on suicide
watch right now. Believe he's suicidal. He's being held in isolation.
He's now being Originally there was bail, he's now being
held without bail. There is no bail, and he's on
suicide watch. Rob Reiner, the friend's family, they say they
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family did everything they could for this kid. The problem is,
I don't think they fully understood how dangerous the situation
was and that they probably had to have this kid
committed in some kind of mental institution. But when you're
wealthy in hollywoodish you know, sometimes you're you're not really
very realistic about things, and to let this kid live,
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you know, in your guest house and let him just
be free in but somebody should have realized this kid
needed to be committed. I mean, obviously now we know
he needed to be committed. So but they said they
spared no expense in trying to rehabilitate them countless facilities.
But you know, sometimes these these are these Hollywood rehabs.
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Then aren't that great? You know, you see everybody that
goes to these Hollywood rehab centers, every Charlie Sheen type.
Have you ever seen anybody actually cured? Not really, not
a lot. So it's just a horrible situation. Now, Rob Reiner,
he was great and all in the family. You know,
you go back check out my Twitter, there's some clips
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up there, but you can see there were moments of
really great acting there. Then he goes on to be
a director. I think Spinal Tap was first, but when
you look back on his history as a director, producer
making films, it's an incredible career. He was just brilliant
at it, brilliant at it. Misery A few good men.
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When Harry met Sally I mean, he was incredible a
director and producer, great, great talent, and you got to
give him credit. For Seinfeld, it was his company castle Rock,
which you named it after a town in Maine. Castle
Rock produced signed and nobody remembers this. But Seinfeld didn't
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do very well the first couple of years, and after
the first year, NBC was going to cancel it, and
Jerry Seinfeld said, he owes everything to Rob Reiner. Rob
Reiner went to NBC and yelled and screamed and cried
and pleaded and begged for them to give Seinfeld another season,
give it another chance. It'll come together, and it worked.
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He kept it on the air. They were going to
cancel it the first season. Second season they were going
to cancel. It was Rob Reiner that went and fought
and screamed apparently got in a huge screaming fights with
NBC president Brandon Tartakoff, and he kept Seinfeld on the air.
And Seinfeld yesterday said, I it wasn't for Rob Reiner,
it wouldn't have happened. Seinfeld wouldn't have happened. Now he
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turned out to be right. Seinfeld went on to be
the biggest show in television for seven eight years. It
went on to be the biggest show in syndication, making
over a billion dollars. Everybody made a fortune, and one
of the guys that made some of that money was
Steve Bannon. Believe it or not, an unknown Steve Bannon
at the time, who had come from Goldman Sachs, was
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one of the investors in Castle Rock, and then when
they sold Castle Rock, he advised people to keep a
percentage of the show, and they gave him a percentage.
So to this day, Steve Bannon makes a lot of
money in payments off the syndication of Seinfeld, which always
upset the hell out of Rob Reiner. Drove nuts that
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Bannon was profiting from this. There are other people. James
Woods was on TV last night talking about how when
his career was over, he was finished. It was Rob
Reiner that believed in him gave him a part in
a movie. Studio said absolutely not, that guy's washed up. Again.
Rob Reiner went and fought for him, got him the part,
and he ended up getting an Academy Award nomination for it. So,
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I mean, Rob Reiner's father was the same way. You know,
the Dick Van Dyke Show was canceled after the first year.
At that time it was the greatest went on to
be the greatest sitcom of the early sixties, but it
was canceled after the first year. Carl Reiner got on
a plane flew to Ohio to meet with the sponsor.
It wasn't Johnson and Johnson, one of the big big
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companies was the sponsor. He went and saw them, burst
into their office, yelled and screamed, begged and pleaded, and
somehow convinced him to just give it one more season,
and sure enough it went on to become huge. So
Rob Reiner must have remembered all that did the same
thing for Seinfeld. And if you watch the Dick Van
Dyke Show, it's about the comedy writer of the big
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variety TV show who lives in Newest Shell and he's
got a son. Well, that was Rob Reiner. Carl Reiner
wrote that show based on his real life, and that
was Rob Reiner. Grew up in the same kind of
house with the Rob Petrie and Newest Schell at that time.
His father was actually Carl Reiner and he was writing
for Sid Caesar. But it's an amazing story. Now, this
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is a horrible tragedy, the most awful tragedy imaginable. And
then President Trump tweets out I don't have in front
of me, but he just said Rob Reiner was a deranged,
you know, maniac with Trump derangement syndrome. He was spewing
hatred all the time.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He said basically something about the hateful energy they put out,
the hate, the rage must have infected other people around him. Now,
you're not supposed to do that in a tragedy like this.
You're the president of the United States. You're supposed to
be very, very, very gracious. But that's not Donald Trump. Now,
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if for me, I would have been gracious about it,
or I would have just let it go, not say it.
But that's not Donald Trump. So it upset a lot
of people that he attacked Rob Reiner in death. But yeah,
of course saw the Hollywood people tweeting furiously all night
about how Trump is obviously and this is one of them,
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said the twenty fifth Amendment. CNN, MSNBC and even Fox,
Fox News panels, you know, totally denounced Trump for doing that,
and they're right, they're not wrong. I mean, Fox is
a classic place. They would never do anything like that.
I would never do anything like that. But that's Donald Trump.
That's what he does, that's what he's always done, that's
what he'll continue to do. For a number of reasons. One,
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he has absolutely no filter. He will always say what
he really thinks. Now, if you do that in this situation, boy,
it's gonna be the You're gonna get bombarded. But he
also loves to be the lead story of the day.
And with this Rob Reiner stuff, you know, nobody would
think of him. It would just all be about Robert.
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So he puts himself right back on top of the
of the news. That's one reason he does it. Again,
it's not right to do it. I wouldn't do it,
but I understand why he does it. And you know,
you can't say, hey, don't do this, don't do that.
The guy's the most successful guy in the world. Who's
to tell him what to do? And I've seen this before.
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You know, a lot of Trump is based on Frank Sinatra.
He was a big studier of Frank Sinatra. I used
to talk to him about this years ago. Sinatra techniques, methods,
the way that was Sinatra. So who had no filter,
he would and he Sinatra was in the same situation.
Earlier in his career, there was a guy named Lee Mortimer.
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He was the biggest columnist and he wrote the most
vicious things about Frank Sinatra. Vicious. He tried to tie
him to the mob. That's where actually all that mafia
stuff started from Lee Mortimer's columns. He tried to get
the guy just, you know, just totally disavowed by Holly.
I mean, nobody went after more than this columnist, Lee Mortimer.
Sinatra saw on was in a restaurant and punched him
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right in the face and was put on trial. He
was actually convicted of assault, but Sinatra was so powerful
that he managed to avoid jail. Instead, he had a
pay a fifteen thousand dollars fine, which was a fortune
back then, and for the rest of his life, Sinatra
carried in his pocket a certified check for fifteen thousand dollars.
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He said, if I ever see that guy, I'm gonna
punch him again and hand him the check. But years later,
Lee Mortimer died and he was a big columnist in America.
Said there was a huge funeral, and Sinatra didn't go
to the funeral. But later that night, at about two
in the morning. He brought a lot of friends to
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the cemetery in the dark, in the middle of the night.
He wanted them to watch as he pissed on the
grave of Lee Mortimer. So that's Trump, that's Sinatra. There's
a lot of similarities. They just there was nothing phony
in these guys. They just couldn't do it. Hey, well,
take some calls. Next, eight hundred three to two one
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Speaker 2 (17:10):
Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Mara in Nevada. Mara,
how you.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Doing so good?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I'm talking to you, Chad, Vincent, Mark I coulte to
wish you a wonderful vacation. Thanks, Merry Christmas, and I
hope you have a fun New Year's ease. Thank you
very much for another year of putting a smile on
my face and bringing Vincent into my life.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh well, thank you for listening. Thank you for being
our number one fan in Nevada there. Thanks for everything.
Let's go to Vic and Pennsylvania. Vick, how you doing.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I'm doing fine, Mark, Mark. You know, Trump should have
said the attack that Rob Ryan gez on Rush Limbaugh
when he was when he gave him the Medal of
Freedom and with jam and the day after he died.
It's verifiable. It's really terrible the things that he said.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, that's a good point. Actually, if you go to
my Twitter, there's a little montage up there of the vile, disgusting, ugly,
horrifying hatefield things Rob Reiner used to post on Twitter,
hundreds and hundreds of them. It was really ugly hatefield stuff. Now,
if you're the president, you're not supposed to say bad
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things in a tragedy like this. But if the guy
wrote the most ugly, vicious, awful stuff about you day
and night for years, you know, and for all the
people who say I could talk about Donald Trump say that,
how could he post that while wound? Donald Trump say, well,
where were you when Rob Reiner was doing it every second,
all day and night. Let's go to Grace in Rockland County. Grace,
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how you doing.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
I'm doing excellently, Mark. That monologue was wonderful. It was
so entertaining, and I learned so much.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
That's why you're such a radio personality.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh thanks. It was about stabbing and death and throat slit.
I wouldn't call that entertaining.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
No, what you said about Sinatra and the come on
it was excellent. I learned so much.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
But as far as Trump, okay, they can hold up
a seven head. They could wish him dead. Two people
could have tried to shoot him. You know the double
standard we are. We have crossed the line unfortunately to cibility.
And I don't care. The President is right. If you're
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giving a punch, you have to be willing to take that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
All right, that's a good way to put it. Let's
go to Jerry and Greenwich. Jerry, how you doing.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I'm very well. Thank you, Mark, thank you for taking
my call. I would like to know why Fox puts
all the words jes my protest on the television. They're
making her a household name.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I mean that every news outlet's do it. It's news.
They covered news.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But also she's kind of stupid and goofy and silly.
It's fun to talk about her. It makes the Democrats
look bad too, to have this I know.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
That they tried to talk a bit about her, but
you know it's they make another household name.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, you know one thing about that Fox News, it's
number one. It gets more viewers than MSNBC, CNN, Calbert Kimmel,
everybody combined. It's very successful. So I think they know
what they're doing. I think whatever the formula is, it's working.
Let's go to Vincent and Brooklyn. Vincent, how you doing.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
Good morning malk, Good morning Mara. Unfortunately, at the expense
of his parents' lives, this kid Nick will finally get straight. Unfortunately,
during the course of my life, I've known a lot
of junkies who will like Nick. Look at Twainne Dolbman.
How many times excuse me, Greg Albman, how many times
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was he in reheab? I think seventeen times and seventeen times.
Failed junkies like this kid. That's the only way they
get straight. This kid is going to be in prison
for the rest of his life for a mental institution.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Now.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Unfortunately, uh fortunately for him and unfortunately for his parents,
he'll get straight. I've known a lot of people like that.
I knew a woman who used to beg the cops
to arrest her son. He was such a degenerate junkie.
That being said, Mark, I have to say Trumps should
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have been above the fray. He should have just just said,
my condolences go out to the family. I don't care
whether it's filter or no filter, Sinatra or not Sinatra.
In my opinion, that's low rent exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Of course, of course your low rent. Of course you said,
of course, but it's ten years now. You got to
remember going to be above the fray.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
It's not gonna we understand, we understand what Rob Branan did,
but this is your talking about a kid, a father
and a mother that just got That's all I want
to say to me.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Be honest, though, your worst enemy ever in the world,
the guy that did Morris said more horrible things. The
worst enemy. He's dead. Somebody tells you, don't you say good,
I'm glad he did something.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
No, you don't. As a Catholic, and I haven't been.
My mother would always would say, show you above the fray.
Show you not, as we say in Italian Oh Cafe,
Franks are not for doing what he did. That was also,
in my opinion, that was a low rack.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
No, you're right of course you're right. But some guys
don't want to be above the fray. They want to
be the fray.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
They when he did that, how many of this detractors said,
you see, I told you. That's all I want to say.
Thanks Fox, All.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right, Vincent, of course you're right. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
When we come back, Rhnda Sheer will be with us now.
I'm sure she knew Rob Reiner in all her Hollywood years.
We'll ask her about that and a lot of other stuff.
Bill O'Reilly not here today. He'll be here tomorrow. He
had a switch day, so he'll be here tomorrow. But
we'll get to run to Shear next on seven ten
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with the up all night? It's better than ever. And
of course Ronda shere the fashion queen, fashion Empire. You
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on Instagram and the Twitter and all of that. Rhonda Shear,
how you doing?
Speaker 9 (23:34):
I am disturbed, but I'm I'm really fine. I'm taking
a little winter vacation in North Carolina right now, in
the mountains, so.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
Away from the crazy.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
But I do have to talk to you about this
whole murder, It's horrible. I I really feel like you
can't fix a child like that. And I wonder if
a lot of times that Rob Reiner's just wrapped and
the Trump talk was his own distraction away from the
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mental illness and the problems that that child had from
the time he was a child. Because you know, they
threw a lot of money at it, obviously, and they
do what Hollywood people do and put him in rehab.
There's no fixing him. If you looked at him in
the many many interviews that he had with his dad,
especially when they were promoting the film Charlie, his eyes
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darting around, and the way he looked at his father
with disdain. I mean, I think that he was very,
very jealous of his dad. He couldn't live up, you know,
to his siblings and or his father's success. Well, a
lot of that happens and the Hollywood. You've heard a
lot of these kids even committing suicide that couldn't live
up to their parents' fame. And I think that he totally,
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you know, couldn't live up to it. Turned to drugs
at a very very young age and addictive personality.
Speaker 10 (24:54):
The thing is that parents.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
And I've had this discussion with so many people, you know,
I do a podcast and parents, you know, they see it,
but they don't want to put their kid away. And yeah,
he should have been in a mental institution if they
have any of those anymore, but who's going to admit that.
So they feel like if they kept him close, brought
him to the parties, that's why he was at that
party in a hoodie and bringing him there. They want
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him close. They know they want him close and nearby,
and that that family was a very close knit family.
But he was very damaged, very damaged, and probably very violent.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
I have a little bit of that.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
I actually have somebody in my own family, not violent,
but similar kind of story that still lives with you know.
Actually my brother's son in his forties still lives at
home and has you know, just been very damaged and
there's no fixing it. It's very sad and what do
you do now? Because he is or those people can
not only hurt themselves and or hurt others. But these
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are the people we read about later on the commit
mass murders and shootings or what have you. But this
is just you know, beyond tragedy, and I looked up
because the curiosity in terms of who the murders of
all the murders of the past in Hollywood, just in murders,
There's no doubt Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle are
the most famous, most iconic of all. I mean, yes,
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there was you know, Sharon Tate, you know, going back,
there was ah, you know, different murders of the years,
but nobody of this. This is this is beyond shocking.
And we're going to hear about this for a long
long time. But will it change anything with these kids,
especially kids of Hollywood, not especially, but it should shine
a be light on it, and it won't.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, but friends of the family say either were They
don't want to describe it or talk about it, but
they said they were earlier violent incidents.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
So yeah, well yes all the way. Since I mean
I was reading about the yoga instruction. My mom had
him as a child, going to yoga and she would
teach them acrobatics and and but she could tell even
as a child.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
I mean, let's face it, mental illness.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
You know, you can be born with mental illness, you know,
and and then how it manifest of course, then taking drugs,
and he was drugged up on he admittedly on cocaine
and heroin, and he had violent incidents at the house
where he he crashed his hand for a TV set.
I mean, who and didn't even remember it.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
So it is curious.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
You brought up the timeline about the hotel and I
had read that, but I thought that was before the murders.
But they say he checked into the hotel before the murders.
So where was the blood? Was he trying to self
harm himself that law come out?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, yeah, no it was. It was the night of
the party. It was before the murder, the.
Speaker 10 (27:29):
Night of the party. So was he trying to slit
his own resks? He probably?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
I mean, you can't be and you can't we can't
be rationalized or rationalize it because we can't think like him,
because there is no rationalizing, especially if he did end
up during drugs that night and at the party. I'm sure,
I'm sure that went on. They say it went on
the sets. And Rob Royner and his wife were loving, loving,
loving people in terms of family, I'm not talking about
(27:53):
the politics. I know about all the politics, but you know,
they were loving, kept their kids really close, were great parents,
But what do you do with a son that you know,
or a daughter or a child that you know his issues,
but you don't want to believe that he could kill
anyone at her himself. And that's why they had him
living there probably or kill you, you know. I mean
(28:14):
it is It is just very eye opening and and it.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
Is partially what's going on.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
The drugs have gotten stronger, the video games have gotten
you know, crazier and more violence. I think these kids
these mass shootings, think they're acting out on video games,
you know, Charlie Christ shooter. I really it's just I know,
I'm more serious today, but very deeply disturbed.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
I did not know Rob Reiner. I knew everybody an.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I worked with Teddy Marshall, I worked with all those people.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
I knew his dad.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
I mean not well, but I you know, had my
early sitcom h stints out in LA like Happy Days.
That was a whole group normally, you know, normally all
those people were really close friends, but it never actually met.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I used to talk to Rob Reiner a lot. Will
you always talk about old comedians and old show business?
Oh yeah, it's amazing, very warm, warm, yes. Love. So
how does the guy. That's sweet, that warm. How does
it become such a crazy hate filed you know when
it comes to politics. How does that work?
Speaker 9 (29:12):
Well, I can tell you I have one in my
own family. So you talked about this. We all came
from the same family for siblings, and I have an
older brother who writes me the most vitriolic words that
you can't even I mean tearing, like gut wrenching, knife
turning words about me and my husband. And then my
husband turned me into you know, Republican and a trunk fan.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
I mean just but that's.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
Nothing I mean, but the words that come out of
his mouth. And we were my family, oh my gosh,
the most loving, loving family. And I also think though
my brother's the one who has the son who's got problems?
Is it or was it a distraction for Rob Reiner
to then turn to politics to kind of like not,
(29:55):
I mean, you can't what do you do with that son?
It's almost his own distraction, Like they were saying, is
it a disraction that Trump was, you know, came out
with this Twitter because of all the other stuff that
he's going on. You don't know, We don't know, because
we think like rational people.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You and I Rob Ryder did a lot of political
work for many many years, did good work for you know,
money for kids programs, and he worked with the governor
and very fine political work.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
But he also took off for the whole Charlie Christing,
he I mean I read about that.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
He was Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
I'm so sorry I got to got I'm thinking of
Florida politics right now, So sorry about that. But yeah,
I'm so disturbed today, I can't think. But yes, Charlie
Kirk that he took up that and was like very
spoke about Erica and how she forgave the killer, you know,
because he's just a very forgiven person. So he did
not put it down when it came to that, when
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it came to murder, or when it came to family,
he put the politics beside.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
He did have that other side.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Well, how come when he talked about Trump he would
go into such a.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Rage because I'm telling you, my own brother been born
in the same household, had the same parents. Why does
my brother like that. I'm sure all of us know
people that at some point were very rational. Well, if
I send you one email from my brother, you'd go, oh,
m rage and by the way, all the time, all
the time.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I finally need to block him from everything. But he
does have a son who is disturbed. I have a
nephew that lives at home in his forties.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
No, I mean I laugh about it because but it's
very very It's creepy because you're like, how do we
how are we raised in the same household, have the
same parents, and where does this vitriolic these words, these
incredible language come from. I mean, like just trying to
take I mean, it's like hard to believe. But I
just think we've seen a lot of that on social media,
that people feel like they can hide behind words now
(31:42):
and not act it out where we just saw it
acted out in real time.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
It's just very horrible. I didn't mean to bring this up.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
I have to talk about it because it is like
shocking and beyond.
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I hate to say that we're out of time already.
It went by really fast, but tell us what.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Wow, this ought to be interesting. We'll get to Rob
Reiner in great detail. We'll get to President Trump's attack
on Rob Reiner. Why did he do it? Why did
he have to do that? How could he do such
a thing. Well, we'll get to all that coming up.
We'll get to White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles,
who usually stays way below the radar. I don't know why,
(00:28):
gave a big interview to Vanity Fair and it's causing
all kinds of controversy. We'll get to that. We'll get
to Howard Stern he announced he staying but with about
one hundred asterisks on that. We'll get to Bruce Blakeman
running for governor. We'll get to We've got a lot
to get to. Curtis will be with us a little later.
Can't wait to hear what he's got to say about everything.
(00:49):
So here's what we know. More stuff coming out every
hour about the whole Rob Reiner situation. You know, the
he was murdered Sunday afternoon about three o'clock, and that
night he was he and his wife were supposed to
(01:11):
have dinner with Michelle and Barack Obama. They were supposed
to have dinner that night, and that's quite a I
don't mean a group be gruesome, but you know, sometimes
you get a call, Hey, we're gonna have to cancel,
not feeling well or something like that. But to get
(01:33):
a call have to cancel, what's the matter, Well they're dead?
What dad throat slit? They can't come to dinner. I mean,
what a shock that must have been. Now all sorts
of stuff is coming out as we know now it
looks like it's Nick Reiner the Sun. The night before,
(01:56):
there's a big Christmas party thrown by Conan O'Brien, and
I don't know why Rob Righter and his wife are
going to the party. They brought a couple of the kids.
I don't know why they brought the son Nick or
why he was there, because everybody said he clearly didn't
fit in, didn't want to be there. It was, you know,
a nice, fancy Christmas party with everybody dressed up, and
(02:18):
Nick Ryner shows up with a hoodie. You know, it's
like a sweatsuit and a hoodie with the hood up
over his head, looking very very out of place. Also,
in the middle of the crowd, looking very angry, like
he didn't want to be there. He didn't like this,
He resented this, and whenever he would look at anybody
(02:39):
or talk to him, it was always with an angry look.
And he they said, some people he went around said
are you famous? Are you famous? So he just you know,
for a kid with all kinds of mental problems to
be in a very agitated state and to be in
this room was a little bizarre. And then at some
point he got into a fight with his and just
(03:00):
freaked out completely and starts yelling and screaming, and the
father starts yelling and screaming back. And this is in
the middle of the party. I mean, it was a
very loud, screaming argument that went on for a long time,
freaking out everybody else in the party. So at some
(03:21):
point the kid left, and then Rob Reiner and his wife,
realizing they had totally ruined the party and upset everybody,
they left as well. Now we now know that the
kid left the party and did something. For a few hours.
He was living, apparently in a guest house on the
(03:41):
Rob Reiner estate. On the compound, there's a guest house.
He was living there, but he may have gone back
there to get some things, but he didn't stay there. Instead,
later that night, in the middle of the night, actually
about four in the morning, he checked into a motel
in Santa Monica. So he left Brent Would went to
Santa Monica. Checked into this hotel at about four in
(04:03):
the morning. The staff thought that he looked a little well,
let's just say, wound up a little nutty. But you
know who checks into a Hollywood hotel at four in
the morning, but a nutty looking guy in a hoodie.
So he checked in and then it was the next day.
He was still probably all crazed over the fight, whatever
(04:24):
that was. The next day, went back to Rob Reiner's house,
had an extremely loud argument. The daughter could hear it
from she was also living in another guest house on
the property. She could hear the argument and it went
on for a while, and then I guess it stopped,
and that's why she decided to go check on her
parents and she found them dead. Imagine the daughter goes
(04:50):
and finds them dead, their throat slit, blood everywhere, was
just awful. She immediately calls the police. And then I
didn't realize it were really really the family was really
close to Billy Crystal and his wife. So as soon
as she calls the police and hangs up, she then
immediately calls Billy Crystal and tells him what's happened. He
(05:12):
and his wife jump in the car and race over
to Rob Reiner's house and get there about the same
time as the police. So they came in as the
police are getting there. So Billy Crystal and his wife
as they come in, see the bodies on the floor,
the throat slit, the blood, every it must have been
just horrifying. And that's why reporters said when they saw
(05:33):
Billy Crystal come out of the house, he and his
wife were very shaken up. We're crying and so imagine
this is your close friend. You see the bodies like that.
So the police are there, a huge response from the
police department, and then she, the daughter, tells them, you
got to look at the sun. He's crazy. He's got
a history of violent, crazy behavior, and they've had a
(05:54):
big fight. I heard fighting. She tells me to look
for him. They go look for him. It took a
while to find him. They finally released the pictures of
them arresting him. I think he was at a train
station or a bus station. They find him, arrest him.
You can see a picture of him being thrown to
the ground and handcuffed and then pushed up against the
car frisked, I guess, and then they throw him in
(06:16):
the car. He's a troubled kid. He's been in rehab
over seventeen times since the age of fifteen. They've talked
before about whether or not he was a danger, and
you know, experts will tell you that these kind of situations,
the family never fully understands the danger. They always underestimate
(06:40):
the violent danger of the kid.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
This doesn't just start the day before yesterday, so there
was ongoing issues between them. And when I've seen cases
like this in the past, oftentimes the family underestimates the
potential of their loved one in terms of what they
could do to them. But I think we're going to
see the patterns begin to come to the surface over time,
(07:06):
because that is a lot of anger. That's a lot
of rage. It doesn't just start on the night of
the attack.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So the police find out the kid, Nick Reiner, was
in a hotel room. They go to the hotel and
they find the hotel room is got blood everywhere, there's
blood on the sheets. There's blood everywhere in this hotel room.
And he had taken some sheets and put them up
over the window to cover the windows, and then there's
blood all over the hotel room. Now, what could you
(07:32):
be doing in there that would cause all this blood?
He might say, Well, when he was stabbing his mother
and father, he might have gotten blood all over him,
But when he checked in, they didn't see blood all
over him. So who knows what he did in that
room to cause all that blood to be everywhere. The
kid obviously completely psycho, just literally just a raging maniac.
(07:55):
So he's under arrest, he's in custody. He's on suicide
watch right now. Believe he's suicidal. He's being held in isolation.
He's now being Originally there was bail, he's now being
held without bail. There is no bail, and he's on
suicide watch. Rob Reiner, the friend's family, they say they
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family did everything they could for this kid. The problem is,
I don't think they fully understood how dangerous the situation
was and that they probably had to have this kid
committed in some kind of mental institution. But when you're
wealthy in hollywoodish you know, sometimes you're you're not really
very realistic about things, and to let this kid live,
(08:39):
you know, in your guest house and let him just
be free in but somebody should have realized this kid
needed to be committed. I mean, obviously now we know
he needed to be committed. So but they said they
spared no expense in trying to rehabilitate them countless facilities.
But you know, sometimes these these are these Hollywood rehabs.
(09:01):
Then aren't that great? You know, you see everybody that
goes to these Hollywood rehab centers, every Charlie Sheen type.
Have you ever seen anybody actually cured? Not really, not
a lot. So it's just a horrible situation. Now, Rob Reiner,
he was great and all in the family. You know,
you go back check out my Twitter, there's some clips
(09:21):
up there, but you can see there were moments of
really great acting there. Then he goes on to be
a director. I think Spinal Tap was first, but when
you look back on his history as a director, producer
making films, it's an incredible career. He was just brilliant
at it, brilliant at it. Misery A few good men.
(09:42):
When Harry met Sally I mean, he was incredible a
director and producer, great, great talent, and you got to
give him credit. For Seinfeld, it was his company castle Rock,
which you named it after a town in Maine. Castle
Rock produced signed and nobody remembers this. But Seinfeld didn't
(10:03):
do very well the first couple of years, and after
the first year, NBC was going to cancel it, and
Jerry Seinfeld said, he owes everything to Rob Reiner. Rob
Reiner went to NBC and yelled and screamed and cried
and pleaded and begged for them to give Seinfeld another season,
give it another chance. It'll come together, and it worked.
(10:23):
He kept it on the air. They were going to
cancel it the first season. Second season they were going
to cancel. It was Rob Reiner that went and fought
and screamed apparently got in a huge screaming fights with
NBC president Brandon Tartakoff, and he kept Seinfeld on the air.
And Seinfeld yesterday said, I it wasn't for Rob Reiner,
it wouldn't have happened. Seinfeld wouldn't have happened. Now he
(10:45):
turned out to be right. Seinfeld went on to be
the biggest show in television for seven eight years. It
went on to be the biggest show in syndication, making
over a billion dollars. Everybody made a fortune, and one
of the guys that made some of that money was
Steve Bannon. Believe it or not, an unknown Steve Bannon
at the time, who had come from Goldman Sachs, was
(11:06):
one of the investors in Castle Rock, and then when
they sold Castle Rock, he advised people to keep a
percentage of the show, and they gave him a percentage.
So to this day, Steve Bannon makes a lot of
money in payments off the syndication of Seinfeld, which always
upset the hell out of Rob Reiner. Drove nuts that
(11:29):
Bannon was profiting from this. There are other people. James
Woods was on TV last night talking about how when
his career was over, he was finished. It was Rob
Reiner that believed in him gave him a part in
a movie. Studio said absolutely not, that guy's washed up. Again.
Rob Reiner went and fought for him, got him the part,
and he ended up getting an Academy Award nomination for it. So,
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I mean, Rob Reiner's father was the same way. You know,
the Dick Van Dyke Show was canceled after the first year.
At that time it was the greatest went on to
be the greatest sitcom of the early sixties, but it
was canceled after the first year. Carl Reiner got on
a plane flew to Ohio to meet with the sponsor.
It wasn't Johnson and Johnson, one of the big big
(12:15):
companies was the sponsor. He went and saw them, burst
into their office, yelled and screamed, begged and pleaded, and
somehow convinced him to just give it one more season,
and sure enough it went on to become huge. So
Rob Reiner must have remembered all that did the same
thing for Seinfeld. And if you watch the Dick Van
Dyke Show, it's about the comedy writer of the big
(12:37):
variety TV show who lives in Newest Shell and he's
got a son. Well, that was Rob Reiner. Carl Reiner
wrote that show based on his real life, and that
was Rob Reiner. Grew up in the same kind of
house with the Rob Petrie and Newest Schell at that time.
His father was actually Carl Reiner and he was writing
for Sid Caesar. But it's an amazing story. Now, this
(13:02):
is a horrible tragedy, the most awful tragedy imaginable. And
then President Trump tweets out I don't have in front
of me, but he just said Rob Reiner was a deranged,
you know, maniac with Trump derangement syndrome. He was spewing
hatred all the time.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He said basically something about the hateful energy they put out,
the hate, the rage must have infected other people around him. Now,
you're not supposed to do that in a tragedy like this.
You're the president of the United States. You're supposed to
be very, very, very gracious. But that's not Donald Trump. Now,
(13:41):
if for me, I would have been gracious about it,
or I would have just let it go, not say it.
But that's not Donald Trump. So it upset a lot
of people that he attacked Rob Reiner in death. But yeah,
of course saw the Hollywood people tweeting furiously all night
about how Trump is obviously and this is one of them,
(14:02):
said the twenty fifth Amendment. CNN, MSNBC and even Fox,
Fox News panels, you know, totally denounced Trump for doing that,
and they're right, they're not wrong. I mean, Fox is
a classic place. They would never do anything like that.
I would never do anything like that. But that's Donald Trump.
That's what he does, that's what he's always done, that's
what he'll continue to do. For a number of reasons. One,
(14:24):
he has absolutely no filter. He will always say what
he really thinks. Now, if you do that in this situation, boy,
it's gonna be the You're gonna get bombarded. But he
also loves to be the lead story of the day.
And with this Rob Reiner stuff, you know, nobody would
think of him. It would just all be about Robert.
(14:46):
So he puts himself right back on top of the
of the news. That's one reason he does it. Again,
it's not right to do it. I wouldn't do it,
but I understand why he does it. And you know,
you can't say, hey, don't do this, don't do that.
The guy's the most successful guy in the world. Who's
to tell him what to do? And I've seen this before.
(15:06):
You know, a lot of Trump is based on Frank Sinatra.
He was a big studier of Frank Sinatra. I used
to talk to him about this years ago. Sinatra techniques, methods,
the way that was Sinatra. So who had no filter,
he would and he Sinatra was in the same situation.
Earlier in his career, there was a guy named Lee Mortimer.
(15:27):
He was the biggest columnist and he wrote the most
vicious things about Frank Sinatra. Vicious. He tried to tie
him to the mob. That's where actually all that mafia
stuff started from Lee Mortimer's columns. He tried to get
the guy just, you know, just totally disavowed by Holly.
I mean, nobody went after more than this columnist, Lee Mortimer.
Sinatra saw on was in a restaurant and punched him
(15:49):
right in the face and was put on trial. He
was actually convicted of assault, but Sinatra was so powerful
that he managed to avoid jail. Instead, he had a
pay a fifteen thousand dollars fine, which was a fortune
back then, and for the rest of his life, Sinatra
carried in his pocket a certified check for fifteen thousand dollars.
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He said, if I ever see that guy, I'm gonna
punch him again and hand him the check. But years later,
Lee Mortimer died and he was a big columnist in America.
Said there was a huge funeral, and Sinatra didn't go
to the funeral. But later that night, at about two
in the morning. He brought a lot of friends to
(16:31):
the cemetery in the dark, in the middle of the night.
He wanted them to watch as he pissed on the
grave of Lee Mortimer. So that's Trump, that's Sinatra. There's
a lot of similarities. They just there was nothing phony
in these guys. They just couldn't do it. Hey, well,
take some calls. Next, eight hundred three to two one
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Speaker 1 (16:56):
Give wor a bri said on the iHeartRadio after Mark
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Now back to the Mark Simo show on woor.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Mara in Nevada. Mara,
how you.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Doing so good?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I'm talking to you, Chad, Vincent, Mark I coulte to
wish you a wonderful vacation. Thanks, Merry Christmas, and I
hope you have a fun New Year's ease. Thank you
very much for another year of putting a smile on
my face and bringing Vincent into my life.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh well, thank you for listening. Thank you for being
our number one fan in Nevada there. Thanks for everything.
Let's go to Vic and Pennsylvania. Vick, how you doing.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I'm doing fine, Mark, Mark. You know, Trump should have
said the attack that Rob Ryan gez on Rush Limbaugh
when he was when he gave him the Medal of
Freedom and with jam and the day after he died.
It's verifiable. It's really terrible the things that he said.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, that's a good point. Actually, if you go to
my Twitter, there's a little montage up there of the vile, disgusting, ugly,
horrifying hatefield things Rob Reiner used to post on Twitter,
hundreds and hundreds of them. It was really ugly hatefield stuff. Now,
if you're the president, you're not supposed to say bad
(18:27):
things in a tragedy like this. But if the guy
wrote the most ugly, vicious, awful stuff about you day
and night for years, you know, and for all the
people who say I could talk about Donald Trump say that,
how could he post that while wound? Donald Trump say, well,
where were you when Rob Reiner was doing it every second,
all day and night. Let's go to Grace in Rockland County. Grace,
(18:48):
how you doing.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
I'm doing excellently, Mark. That monologue was wonderful. It was
so entertaining, and I learned so much.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
That's why you're such a radio personality.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh thanks. It was about stabbing and death and throat slit.
I wouldn't call that entertaining.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
No, what you said about Sinatra and the come on
it was excellent. I learned so much.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Listen.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
But as far as Trump, okay, they can hold up
a seven head. They could wish him dead. Two people
could have tried to shoot him. You know the double
standard we are. We have crossed the line unfortunately to cibility.
And I don't care. The President is right. If you're
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giving a punch, you have to be willing to take that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
All right, that's a good way to put it. Let's
go to Jerry and Greenwich. Jerry, how you doing.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I'm very well. Thank you, Mark, thank you for taking
my call. I would like to know why Fox puts
all the words jes my protest on the television. They're
making her a household name.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I mean that every news outlet's do it. It's news.
They covered news.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But also she's kind of stupid and goofy and silly.
It's fun to talk about her. It makes the Democrats
look bad too, to have this I know.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
That they tried to talk a bit about her, but
you know it's they make another household name.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, you know one thing about that Fox News, it's
number one. It gets more viewers than MSNBC, CNN, Calbert Kimmel,
everybody combined. It's very successful. So I think they know
what they're doing. I think whatever the formula is, it's working.
Let's go to Vincent and Brooklyn. Vincent, how you doing.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
Good morning malk, Good morning Mara. Unfortunately, at the expense
of his parents' lives, this kid Nick will finally get straight. Unfortunately,
during the course of my life, I've known a lot
of junkies who will like Nick. Look at Twainne Dolbman.
How many times excuse me, Greg Albman, how many times
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was he in reheab? I think seventeen times and seventeen times.
Failed junkies like this kid. That's the only way they
get straight. This kid is going to be in prison
for the rest of his life for a mental institution.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Now.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Unfortunately, uh fortunately for him and unfortunately for his parents,
he'll get straight. I've known a lot of people like that.
I knew a woman who used to beg the cops
to arrest her son. He was such a degenerate junkie.
That being said, Mark, I have to say Trumps should
(21:31):
have been above the fray. He should have just just said,
my condolences go out to the family. I don't care
whether it's filter or no filter, Sinatra or not Sinatra.
In my opinion, that's low rent exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Of course, of course your low rent. Of course you said,
of course, but it's ten years now. You got to
remember going to be above the fray.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
It's not gonna we understand, we understand what Rob Branan did,
but this is your talking about a kid, a father
and a mother that just got That's all I want
to say to me.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Be honest, though, your worst enemy ever in the world,
the guy that did Morris said more horrible things. The
worst enemy. He's dead. Somebody tells you, don't you say good,
I'm glad he did something.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
No, you don't. As a Catholic, and I haven't been.
My mother would always would say, show you above the fray.
Show you not, as we say in Italian Oh Cafe,
Franks are not for doing what he did. That was also,
in my opinion, that was a low rack.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
No, you're right of course you're right. But some guys
don't want to be above the fray. They want to
be the fray.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
They when he did that, how many of this detractors said,
you see, I told you. That's all I want to say.
Thanks Fox, All.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right, Vincent, of course you're right. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
When we come back, Rhnda Sheer will be with us now.
I'm sure she knew Rob Reiner in all her Hollywood years.
We'll ask her about that and a lot of other stuff.
Bill O'Reilly not here today. He'll be here tomorrow. He
had a switch day, so he'll be here tomorrow. But
we'll get to run to Shear next on seven ten
wr Mark Simone Wr Well, rondare you know she's back
(23:20):
with the up all night? It's better than ever. And
of course Ronda shere the fashion queen, fashion Empire. You
go to Rhondasheer dot com and of course follow her
on Instagram and the Twitter and all of that. Rhonda Shear,
how you doing?
Speaker 9 (23:34):
I am disturbed, but I'm I'm really fine. I'm taking
a little winter vacation in North Carolina right now, in
the mountains, so.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
Away from the crazy.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
But I do have to talk to you about this
whole murder, It's horrible. I I really feel like you
can't fix a child like that. And I wonder if
a lot of times that Rob Reiner's just wrapped and
the Trump talk was his own distraction away from the
(24:04):
mental illness and the problems that that child had from
the time he was a child. Because you know, they
threw a lot of money at it, obviously, and they
do what Hollywood people do and put him in rehab.
There's no fixing him. If you looked at him in
the many many interviews that he had with his dad,
especially when they were promoting the film Charlie, his eyes
(24:26):
darting around, and the way he looked at his father
with disdain. I mean, I think that he was very,
very jealous of his dad. He couldn't live up, you know,
to his siblings and or his father's success. Well, a
lot of that happens and the Hollywood. You've heard a
lot of these kids even committing suicide that couldn't live
up to their parents' fame. And I think that he totally,
(24:47):
you know, couldn't live up to it. Turned to drugs
at a very very young age and addictive personality.
Speaker 10 (24:54):
The thing is that parents.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
And I've had this discussion with so many people, you know,
I do a podcast and parents, you know, they see it,
but they don't want to put their kid away. And yeah,
he should have been in a mental institution if they
have any of those anymore, but who's going to admit that.
So they feel like if they kept him close, brought
him to the parties, that's why he was at that
party in a hoodie and bringing him there. They want
(25:16):
him close. They know they want him close and nearby,
and that that family was a very close knit family.
But he was very damaged, very damaged, and probably very violent.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
I have a little bit of that.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
I actually have somebody in my own family, not violent,
but similar kind of story that still lives with you know.
Actually my brother's son in his forties still lives at
home and has you know, just been very damaged and
there's no fixing it. It's very sad and what do
you do now? Because he is or those people can
not only hurt themselves and or hurt others. But these
(25:50):
are the people we read about later on the commit
mass murders and shootings or what have you. But this
is just you know, beyond tragedy, and I looked up
because the curiosity in terms of who the murders of
all the murders of the past in Hollywood, just in murders,
There's no doubt Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle are
the most famous, most iconic of all. I mean, yes,
(26:12):
there was you know, Sharon Tate, you know, going back,
there was ah, you know, different murders of the years,
but nobody of this. This is this is beyond shocking.
And we're going to hear about this for a long
long time. But will it change anything with these kids,
especially kids of Hollywood, not especially, but it should shine
a be light on it, and it won't.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, but friends of the family say either were They
don't want to describe it or talk about it, but
they said they were earlier violent incidents.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
So yeah, well yes all the way. Since I mean
I was reading about the yoga instruction. My mom had
him as a child, going to yoga and she would
teach them acrobatics and and but she could tell even
as a child.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
I mean, let's face it, mental illness.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
You know, you can be born with mental illness, you know,
and and then how it manifest of course, then taking drugs,
and he was drugged up on he admittedly on cocaine
and heroin, and he had violent incidents at the house
where he he crashed his hand for a TV set.
I mean, who and didn't even remember it.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
So it is curious.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
You brought up the timeline about the hotel and I
had read that, but I thought that was before the murders.
But they say he checked into the hotel before the murders.
So where was the blood? Was he trying to self
harm himself that law come out?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, yeah, no it was. It was the night of
the party. It was before the murder, the.
Speaker 10 (27:29):
Night of the party. So was he trying to slit
his own resks? He probably?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
I mean, you can't be and you can't we can't
be rationalized or rationalize it because we can't think like him,
because there is no rationalizing, especially if he did end
up during drugs that night and at the party. I'm sure,
I'm sure that went on. They say it went on
the sets. And Rob Royner and his wife were loving, loving,
loving people in terms of family, I'm not talking about
(27:53):
the politics. I know about all the politics, but you know,
they were loving, kept their kids really close, were great parents,
But what do you do with a son that you know,
or a daughter or a child that you know his issues,
but you don't want to believe that he could kill
anyone at her himself. And that's why they had him
living there probably or kill you, you know. I mean
(28:14):
it is It is just very eye opening and and it.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
Is partially what's going on.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
The drugs have gotten stronger, the video games have gotten
you know, crazier and more violence. I think these kids
these mass shootings, think they're acting out on video games,
you know, Charlie Christ shooter. I really it's just I know,
I'm more serious today, but very deeply disturbed.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
I did not know Rob Reiner. I knew everybody an.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I worked with Teddy Marshall, I worked with all those people.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
I knew his dad.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
I mean not well, but I you know, had my
early sitcom h stints out in LA like Happy Days.
That was a whole group normally, you know, normally all
those people were really close friends, but it never actually met.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I used to talk to Rob Reiner a lot. Will
you always talk about old comedians and old show business?
Oh yeah, it's amazing, very warm, warm, yes. Love. So
how does the guy. That's sweet, that warm. How does
it become such a crazy hate filed you know when
it comes to politics. How does that work?
Speaker 9 (29:12):
Well, I can tell you I have one in my
own family. So you talked about this. We all came
from the same family for siblings, and I have an
older brother who writes me the most vitriolic words that
you can't even I mean tearing, like gut wrenching, knife
turning words about me and my husband. And then my
husband turned me into you know, Republican and a trunk fan.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
I mean just but that's.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
Nothing I mean, but the words that come out of
his mouth. And we were my family, oh my gosh,
the most loving, loving family. And I also think though
my brother's the one who has the son who's got problems?
Is it or was it a distraction for Rob Reiner
to then turn to politics to kind of like not,
(29:55):
I mean, you can't what do you do with that son?
It's almost his own distraction, Like they were saying, is
it a disraction that Trump was, you know, came out
with this Twitter because of all the other stuff that
he's going on. You don't know, We don't know, because
we think like rational people.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You and I Rob Ryder did a lot of political
work for many many years, did good work for you know,
money for kids programs, and he worked with the governor
and very fine political work.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
But he also took off for the whole Charlie Christing,
he I mean I read about that.
Speaker 10 (30:24):
He was Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
I'm so sorry I got to got I'm thinking of
Florida politics right now, So sorry about that. But yeah,
I'm so disturbed today, I can't think. But yes, Charlie
Kirk that he took up that and was like very
spoke about Erica and how she forgave the killer, you know,
because he's just a very forgiven person. So he did
not put it down when it came to that, when
(30:47):
it came to murder, or when it came to family,
he put the politics beside.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
He did have that other side.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Well, how come when he talked about Trump he would
go into such a.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
Rage because I'm telling you, my own brother been born
in the same household, had the same parents. Why does
my brother like that. I'm sure all of us know
people that at some point were very rational. Well, if
I send you one email from my brother, you'd go, oh,
m rage and by the way, all the time, all
the time.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I finally need to block him from everything. But he
does have a son who is disturbed. I have a
nephew that lives at home in his forties.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
No, I mean I laugh about it because but it's
very very It's creepy because you're like, how do we
how are we raised in the same household, have the
same parents, and where does this vitriolic these words, these
incredible language come from. I mean, like just trying to
take I mean, it's like hard to believe. But I
just think we've seen a lot of that on social media,
that people feel like they can hide behind words now
(31:42):
and not act it out where we just saw it
acted out in real time.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
It's just very horrible. I didn't mean to bring this up.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
I have to talk about it because it is like
shocking and beyond.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I hate to say that we're out of time already.
It went by really fast, but tell us what.
Speaker 9 (31:55):
Okay, but you do have to watch on a much
higher note, Happy your note and a comedy note. My
Christmas special of All Night is going to be December
twentieth on kingsof horror dot com, which you can find
on YouTube. We will be streaming in other places too
soon and I will let you know about that very
soon after the new year. But we have gained incredible
(32:18):
viewership and in such a short time, and thank you.
You're one of the reasons that's happened for letting all
your your listeners know.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
If people want to watch your new shows up all night,
you go to kingsof Horror dot com.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Or you can go to YouTube and search Kings of
Horror will be on or any of their other channels.
But if you go to rondashere Up all Night dot com,
that will also take you to all the channels. But
hundreds of thousands of views only in our third fourth
show now, and it's very exciting, and we go to
every other week after January first, so exciting times.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
And I've told you you have to come on.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
We have to get you.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
You have to get you on.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I did last time. I liked that. Ron Just go
to rhondashere Up all Night dot com, Rondasher Up all
Night dot com and rhondas Here. Thanks, we'll do it again.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Let's talk fun next time.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Alright, talk to you later. Take care and don't forget
the buck and Clay noon today. And you know what,
you gotta listen. You gotta listen to Jimmy Fayla every
night at nine. Excellent show here on seven ten, wor
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